--- Log for 12.02.112 Server: adams.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 15 hours ago 00.05.48 # the buildsystem doesn't automatically update the client blacklist from git, does it? 00.07.44 # hmm, the ipod classic sim doesn't build 00.08.45 # n1s: it should 00.10.27 # rigaud-dannya is still building (and throwing errors on sim builds 00.10.48 Quit ender (Quit: Knowledge is power. Power corrupts.) 00.10.48 # hm 00.11.15 # We'll have to poke Zagor when he's online again 00.17.59 # I see that it's only for Tags. Darn. What's the best way to do something like this but not create a huge line of conditionals? I'd like to use a subimage for each minute %?if(%cM,=,%or(04,14,24,34,44,54))<%xd(Ei)|%cM> 00.20.48 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 00.25.44 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.30.29 Join jdgord [0] (~jdgord@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.31.42 Join emp^ [0] (~thc@p579ABB5C.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.33.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.34.02 # Kiwicam:) that works 00.35.35 # Commit e61f42a in rockbox by 03Nils Wallménius: Add description of the speaker keyckick setting 00.36.58 # some of the web pages are symlinks to a svn repo, perhaps they need update to point to the git repo 00.37.57 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 00.38.43 # jdgord: I'm using the latest Sim build and it isn't for me. So, the syntax is correct? If I remove that %or and just place a value it works, but not with the %or. 00.39.42 Quit jdgord (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00.39.45 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 00.41.44 # is the usb connection of the clip+ stable with the newer builds? Version: 91b52a1M-120122 00.42.15 Join jdgord [0] (~jdgord@1.44.117.27) 00.42.24 Quit jdgord (Changing host) 00.42.24 Join jdgord [0] (~jdgord@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.42.33 # the version above crashed when i plugged it in (windows didn't recognise the clip+) 00.43.06 # more or less stable 00.43.45 # for me it only crashes on unplug and less than 50% times 00.44.21 Quit Rower85 (Quit: Hmmm...) 00.45.32 # ok, maybe i'll wait a little bit longer an downgrade to a version which uses the original firmware usb connection 00.45.51 # Kiwicam: hmm looks correct 00.46.32 # Oh no. Or takes tags, not generic numbers 00.46.39 # but rockbox is a masterpiece of software... couldn't live without it :D 00.46.41 # Yeah, that's not possible 00.46.50 # I'll think about it 00.49.58 # really strange behavior though(the crash at plugging it in/windows not recognising it/hardboot necessary to shut the player down) 00.51.03 # jdgord: Does the %or work on the 3.10 version? How long ago did that come into effect? 00.51.27 # Kiwicam: yeah, %or(a, b, c) means "be true if any of the tags a, b, c are true) 00.51.56 # jdgord: Shame. I thought it was a good feature. 00.52.24 # What have want is a bit harder to do 00.54.10 # So, looking at this: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,26960.msg176709.html#msg176709 How do I get your suggestion to work, instead of the OP's way. I can't see it in my mind. 00.55.50 # emp^: you can still use OF usb connection with recent builds 01.00.30 # Didn't gevearts add a tag to get a character from a tags return value? 01.04.58 # Yeah %ss 01.05.51 # Doesn't work for Values. Tried that. That was my first port of call. 01.06.09 # So if want something like %xd(numbers, %ss(1, 1, %cM)) 01.06.40 # I'm not sure of the ss tag syntax 01.07.32 # I'll try it again. 01.09.10 Join nosa [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-147.clt.bellsouth.net) 01.10.30 # This doesn't work %xd(El,%ss(1, 1, %cM)) This does %ss(1, 1, %cM) So, it seems to return a string and not a number. does that sound right? 01.10.56 # %ss would be perfect, if I could get that to work. 01.11.32 # Oh hell, yeah %ss probably doesn't set the number 01.12.09 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01.12.09 Nick nosa is now known as nosa-j (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-147.clt.bellsouth.net) 01.12.20 # File a bug and ill try looking at it this week 01.14.33 # I haven't actually done that before. Can you start me off with a link please? 01.15.04 # Press the bugs link on the frontpage 01.15.43 # Found it. 01.17.31 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 11.0/20120201153158]) 01.26.34 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@adsl-ull-148-196.50-151.net24.it) 01.27.50 # Posted http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12586 I hope it's correct. You know, I think the %or() idea I had might actually be better. There'd be a lot less coding. Would you agree? 01.32.44 # @funman: i could, but it boots rockbox per default when the player was off (i would have to boot OF first if i want plug it in) 01.32.50 # correct me if i'm wrong 01.40.13 # Kiwicam: no the or tag probably won't be fixable to work 01.40.40 # Fixing ss should be simple 01.46.02 Quit amithkk (Excess Flood) 01.47.11 Quit Staphylo (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.48.04 # jdgord: At least there's a solution on the way. I'll carry on theming. Thanks. 01.48.13 Join Staphylo` [0] (~Staphylo@mareo.fr) 01.48.23 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 01.50.17 Quit jdgord (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01.50.44 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6) 01.51.30 Join jdgord [0] (~jdgord@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.58.25 Quit jdgord (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.01.43 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 02.04.24 Join hej [0] (50d8b99d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.216.185.157) 02.04.34 # hey hey some here ? 02.05.36 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 02.06.39 # <[Saint]> hej: 120 people. 02.06.47 # <[Saint]> Not including yourself. 02.08.32 # <[Saint]> ...you have a question, or you're curious about the channels population? :) 02.08.44 Quit hej (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 02.08.52 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 02.14.36 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-071-076-184-171.triad.res.rr.com) 02.28.39 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 02.33.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.42.27 Join Fury4 [0] (1844752f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.68.117.47) 02.50.22 # Hello. I'm trying to get a Sansa Fuze into recovery mode to reflash OF, and have a question about bridging the NAND contacts 02.50.55 # <[Saint]> What...wait. 02.51.19 # <[Saint]> *why* are you needing to go to recovery mode? It wont boot normally? 02.51.54 # yup, screwed up rockbox install and now can't get either firmware to load http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,32847.0.html 02.52.38 # <[Saint]> You've tried a standard hard-reset first? 02.52.58 # the holding power toggle up for 30sec one? yah 02.53.06 # <[Saint]> A lot of people jump to conclusions about it being "bricked" and do way more harm than good. 02.53.21 # <[Saint]> Just...make sure you're certain. 02.54.20 # fuze shuts off within 5sec of startup, regardless of if holding left while powering on 02.54.33 # no access to internal storage when connected to PC 02.55.50 # <[Saint]> Yeah, right. Sounds like a fair guess then. I just wanted to be sure...some people jump to cracking the device open before even trying a reset. 02.56.08 # <[Saint]> Then *actually* brick their devices. 02.57.19 # yeah, I can see that happening a fair bit, lol 02.57.32 # especially considering how tiny the contacts are 02.58.28 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@186.93.217.22) 02.58.28 Quit anewuser (Changing host) 02.58.28 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 02.58.33 Quit anewuser_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.58.48 # as it is the fuze already has a near non-functional screen, so I'm not THAT concerned about further damage 03.00.19 # Basically, I'm unsure about the instructions. http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSUnbrick mentions to bridge two pads with wire, connect to PC, run fdisk -l and then remove the wire 03.00.35 # but then goes on to describe how to use the recovery mode to write the firmware 03.01.15 # unsure if the second set of instructions require the bridging wire still in place, or removed 03.01.52 # <[Saint]> The bridge only needs yo be in place during USB insertion/enumeration 03.02.01 # <[Saint]> *to be 03.02.16 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 03.02.47 Quit curtism (Quit: Live Long and Prosper) 03.03.31 # ahh, so once it's mounted properly, I remove the bridge and write firmware? 03.05.08 # <[Saint]> Yeppers. 03.11.48 Join [Saint_] [0] (~Saint]@101.98.129.152) 03.11.48 Quit [Saint_] (Changing host) 03.11.48 Join [Saint_] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 03.12.45 # I've read mention of removing the battery connection first when unbricking a Clip, is this required for a Fuze? 03.13.49 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Quit) 03.14.10 Nick [Saint_] is now known as [Saint] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 03.14.16 # implication seems to be that it's just to make sure the device is fully off, but just wanted to be sure before I whip out the soldering iron 03.16.46 # emp^: you can press left button when plugging 03.17.03 # Fury4: hi 03.17.40 # you can bridge with a knife or screwdriver 03.19.38 # ok, sorry for the noobish - already in the documentation answered - question 03.19.56 # as if you guys have nothing better to do^^ 03.20.59 Quit MethoS- (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 03.23.06 # hey funman 03.23.44 # that sounds muuch easier than trying to solder to the contacts and then un-solder afterwards :D 03.26.18 # I've done soldering on this scale before, it just can be rather stressful 03.26.31 # <[Saint]> AFAIK the battery disconnection is just to ensure the device is in an off state and not hanging. 03.26.44 # <[Saint]> In this case, you know its off. 03.28.57 # good to know 03.29.20 # hmmmm... now all I need is Linux (unless there's some way to do this from windows?) 03.53.01 # <[Saint]> there's various implementations of dd for windows, yes. 03.53.16 # <[Saint]> Google "Windows+dd" 04.02.50 # turns out it takes less than 10min to download+create a bootable linux USB 04.09.02 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 04.09.11 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.09.55 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Quit: Fwump) 04.19.35 Quit Fury4 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04.24.29 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 04.30.55 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.30.55 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.31.17 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.31.56 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.31.57 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.32.17 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.33.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.40.02 Quit anewuser (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.51.58 Join Fury4 [0] (1844752f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.68.117.47) 04.53.43 # first two attempts at recovery mode didn't appear to work. Trying a 3rd time, but fdisk -l continues to list the sansa even when disconnected. Is there some sort of device removal I need to do in between? 04.59.17 # 1/ make sure it's powered off before plugging 04.59.25 # 2/ repeat several times it's hard to get it right 04.59.53 # you can run this in a terminal: 04.59.59 # while :;do sudo dmesg -c;sleep 1;done 05.00.18 # if you do it right you'll see 'UNDEF STORAGE' or something liek that appear very quickly 05.00.29 # and the screen will stay black 05.02.06 Join Emph4s3r^24h [0] (~thc@p5798B3B9.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.02.20 Quit Emph4s3r^24h (Client Quit) 05.02.53 Quit emp^ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.04.38 # turns out I was identifying the wrong drive, the sansa didn't show at all (I'd forgotten about the identical sized USB flashdrive running the OS, LOL) 05.07.12 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 05.07.14 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 05.07.16 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 05.16.22 Join beslayed [0] (~user@adsl-99-190-44-27.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) 05.18.46 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng303.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 05.21.34 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFD1865.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.23.20 Quit Fury4 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 05.23.37 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.23.52 Join GeekShadow [0] (~antoine@56.134.197.77.rev.sfr.net) 05.24.02 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p57B575BB.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.24.02 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 05.24.02 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 05.24.15 Quit Horschti (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 05.24.28 Join Fury4 [0] (~Fury4@www.nowhere-else.org) 05.24.54 Quit Fury4 (Remote host closed the connection) 05.25.24 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 05.26.25 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 05.26.58 Join Fury4 [0] (~Fury4@www.nowhere-else.org) 05.27.46 # ahh failing IRC servers, brings back so many memories 05.29.24 # <[Saint]> quit message suggests your client barfed. 05.31.49 # webchat.freenode.net died or something 05.32.37 # and then using different webchat client it picked a server that seemed to die immediately 05.38.27 # hnmmm. Sansa's connected, black screen. Terminal window with that script running threw up a bunch of I/O errors (unhandled sense code) and then sde: detected capacity change from 1027342336 to 0 05.38.45 # fdisk still shows nothing 05.40.04 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng303.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 05.40.19 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.41.48 # nope 05.42.34 # Errors : http://pastebin.com/5H5pj9ja 05.42.38 # must be the capacity of your player (actually, a bit more than what you would usually see since the space which stores OF is shown) 05.42.39 # gonna try again 05.42.49 # did you unplug the battery> 05.42.55 # no. 05.42.58 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 05.43.32 # make sure the player's off when you plug it. since for you it semi works it should be fine 05.44.32 # seems to be off 05.46.20 # it's hard to do with 2 hands 05.47.06 # i plug the cable on the fuze, put it ready to be plugged on the pc, then bridge while holding the board firmly on the desk, and plug with the other hand 05.47.10 # good luck! 05.48.32 # worst part has to be the PCB-mounted button that likely does something unrelated 05.48.42 # would be sooo much easier, but no, gotta be difficult :P 05.51.05 # <[Saint]> that's the "Home" button. 05.54.26 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng303.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 05.54.48 # ahhh, lol 05.56.39 # yet again it's booting with screen off, same results as above in pastebin. perhaps 4th time will be the charm 05.58.13 Join ender| [0] (~ender1@foo.eternallybored.org) 05.59.54 # ... I think it worked? 06.00.15 # or... at the very least failed in a different manner, lol 06.04.12 # now ends with [ 2231.166740] sd 11:0:0:0: [sde] Attached SCSI removable disk [ 2231.168359] sd 11:0:0:1: [sdf] Attached SCSI removable disk 06.04.34 # and none of the hardware errors 06.04.52 # but still not shown in fdisk -l 06.23.04 # zomg, it's showing in fdisk! 06.26.33 # dd successful in copying firmware.... now the moment of truth 06.32.36 Quit CaptainKewl (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 06.33.02 # hmmmm, screen now stays lit for longer than 5sec after boot 06.34.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.36.51 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Quit) 06.37.14 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 06.58.21 Quit Slasheri_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 06.58.28 Join Slasheri [0] (miipekk@rockbox/developer/Slasheri) 07.07.27 Quit nosa-j (Excess Flood) 07.10.44 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-147.clt.bellsouth.net) 07.11.13 # funman: It now boots and stays on with screen lit, but otherwise non-functional. I suspect I may have hit the same snag you describe under "hacking" in the SansaAMSUnbrick guide. Any chance you've still got that "full reserved data" image? 07.13.43 # <[Saint]> A patched OF was enough to get mine booting Rockbox, but the OF was all weird. 07.18.15 # plugging in without bridging recovery pads doesn't work show me a drive to reinstall rockbox on 07.18.31 # *doesn't show me a drive 07.18.59 # <[Saint]> dd a patched OF on. 07.19.45 # hmmm, good idea. with luck the other part of rockbox is still intact 07.20.18 # <[Saint]> likely not, but you should be able to mount it with bootloader USB. 07.21.22 # <[Saint]> well, not "likely not" (I was lucky this way, for instance), but, don't rely on the disk contents being intact. :) 07.22.52 # does the current bootloader have USB support on the Fuze? I ran into conflicting info when reading 07.23.04 # some ppl said it's disabled/defaults to OF 07.25.03 # <[Saint]> The *current* version does, I'm not sure if the *release* version does. 07.26.32 Join perrikwp_ [0] (~quassel@cpe-071-076-184-171.triad.res.rr.com) 07.26.43 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 07.26.59 # looks like it was the 3.10 version from Dec 11 that I installed previously 07.28.52 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07.30.14 # release notes say USB is disabled for Fuze v2, v1 isn't mentioned 07.31.53 # guess I can try a current build patched OF 07.32.51 # and hope it doesn't conflict with the older release rockbox remnants 07.36.00 # <[Saint]> What the screwnuts?!? 07.36.22 # <[Saint]> Why does "Recent Posts" in the forums stop listing posts at page 3? 07.36.34 # * [Saint] pokes scorche 07.37.08 # <[Saint]> http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=recent;start=30 07.38.08 # * scorche doesnt know, but is tempted to blame gevaerts for some odd reason =) 07.39.03 # <[Saint]> Ok...I can run with that. 07.39.05 # <[Saint]> ;) 07.45.00 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@genkt-057-078.t-mobile.co.uk) 08.04.47 # hmm.... mkamsboot keeps giving me a permission denied error 08.10.55 # pfft, wasn't flagged as an executable, working now 08.11.19 # at least I'm learning about linux, lol 08.32.31 # "Rockbox internal storage USB device" ready to use! 08.34.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.45.48 # <[Saint]> ...who's your man? ;) 08.46.43 # * [Saint] reminds Fury4 that he takes cash, cheque, or direct credit. 08.46.46 # <[Saint]> :) 09.00.49 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-175-223.student.uu.se) 09.00.50 Quit n1s (Changing host) 09.00.50 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 09.04.12 # rockbox is working flawlessly now, and the blind voice feature let's me actually start music playback without the screen 09.04.44 # I dont think the OF works, but it was rather useless with no display anyways 09.04.52 # thanks for your assistance