00:01:55 | Bagder | perhaps we should consider using a larger font when simulating the player |
00:02:06 | Bagder | but not now |
00:02:10 | Zagor | good idea |
00:06:27 | Zagor | updated: http://rockbox.haxx.se/download/ |
00:06:43 | Bagder | cool |
00:07:05 | Bagder | but its August 9 today |
00:07:20 | Bagder | (release notes) |
00:07:23 | Zagor | nag nag :-) |
00:10:45 | mecraw | it's only the 8th over here |
00:10:51 | Bagder | hehe |
00:12:45 | Bagder | so when I change the simplayer font to the biggest |
00:12:57 | Bagder | should I increase the size used for the icons too? |
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00:13:58 | Zagor | I don't know. Probably 8 pixels is enough, but if it looks odd we can resize that too. |
00:16:54 | Bagder | actually, it looks fine with 8 |
00:17:11 | Bagder | I'll commit and you can have a look |
00:17:51 | Bagder | you tagged the sources for the 1.2 release already, right? |
00:17:51 | Zagor | ok |
00:17:54 | Zagor | no |
00:18:00 | Zagor | but the simulator is... ok :-) |
00:18:05 | Zagor | or send me a patch |
00:18:28 | Bagder | thing is I need to patch in apps too |
00:18:34 | Zagor | ok, wait then. i'll tag |
00:18:40 | Zagor | where will you patch? |
00:19:05 | Bagder | menu.c |
00:20:02 | Zagor | don't commit until tomorrow. murphy says we'll find a bug there... |
00:20:54 | Bagder | oh well, I thought you already made the release archive |
00:20:58 | Bagder | but I'll wait |
00:21:06 | Zagor | no, i've just prepared the web page |
00:21:15 | Zagor | and the boot screens are fake :-) |
00:21:32 | Bagder | hehe |
00:21:57 | Bagder | put the wps screen dump in the manual |
00:22:08 | Zagor | right |
00:22:16 | Bagder | the games screens could go there too to lighten things up |
00:22:29 | Bagder | and the player boot screen |
00:22:37 | Zagor | the dir browser pic too, it's better than the one that's there |
00:22:45 | Bagder | right |
00:34:07 | Bagder | I comitted some left out manual fixes I had |
00:35:11 | Bagder | we need to add F3 on several pages |
00:37:35 | Zagor | oh, plain luck we didn't modify the same pages :-) |
00:37:57 | Bagder | well, I added two new |
00:39:21 | Zagor | general and sound menu are old |
00:39:27 | Zagor | screenshots, i mean |
00:39:38 | Bagder | ye |
00:39:39 | Bagder | s |
00:40:27 | Zagor | checking in my changes |
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00:42:33 | Bagder | you left out "charger" symbol from the wps status bar descr |
00:42:41 | Zagor | ah |
00:42:45 | Bagder | it is not shown though |
00:43:53 | Bagder | I thought about putting various texts in #include files so they can easily be used on several pages |
00:45:15 | Zagor | naah |
00:55:09 | Zagor | is anyone online two can test a windows sim? |
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01:15:59 | elinenbe | I am here. I can test. |
01:16:05 | elinenbe | But, I cannot compile it. |
01:17:20 | Zagor | http://rockbox.haxx.se/rec-win32/uisw32.exe |
01:17:39 | Bagder | Zagor: you did anything to make it work? |
01:18:06 | Bagder | or is that provided by someone else? |
01:18:37 | Zagor | i just built it, no changes |
01:18:42 | Zagor | right, that bugged... |
01:18:48 | Bagder | exactly |
01:19:10 | elinenbe | anything in particular you want me to test? |
01:20:03 | Zagor | no, I just wanted to check that the build worked |
01:20:07 | Zagor | but it doesn't |
01:20:37 | Zagor | wine barfs on it completely... |
01:20:39 | elinenbe | nopes. |
01:20:46 | elinenbe | does not work at all here. |
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05:37:00 | RedLeg | ANybodyalive in here? |
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06:21:15 | MeRWiN | hey mr wood |
06:22:43 | RedLeg | Life! |
06:22:46 | rwood | hi MeRwiN |
06:23:19 | rwood | i'm waiting for linus - i have an idea about the problems with ROLO |
06:23:20 | RedLeg | You guys up to field a question? |
06:24:45 | rwood | i'm a newbie, but fire away, someone may answer |
06:25:29 | RedLeg | I'm building out of CVS, and now have what looks like a repeat or loop icon on my REC20 |
06:25:49 | RedLeg | I want to get out of this mode, but can't figure out how... |
06:28:30 | rwood | i'm using a player - we can't afford icons - maybe you can get an answer when one of the heavy weights joins the channel |
06:29:16 | RedLeg | Sorry to hear that, thanks for answering anyway. |
06:29:45 | RedLeg | The players do no graphics at *all* ? |
06:30:52 | rwood | it's only 6:30 in stockholm, one of the leads will probably be on soon |
06:31:24 | rwood | RedLeg: yes, as far as i know, player is text only |
06:31:33 | RedLeg | 'K, I'll hang in for a while... |
06:32:10 | RedLeg | rwood: Hmmm, anybody though about ascii art? |
06:32:14 | MeRWiN | RedLeg: one of the config options is for loop i believe... repeat is enabled by default |
06:32:26 | MeRWiN | RedLeg: the player has a set character set |
06:32:29 | MeRWiN | unfortunately |
06:33:10 | RedLeg | MeRWiN: Config opts as in Menu, or compile time? |
06:33:23 | MeRWiN | RedLeg: in the menu. But it may not exist yet :) |
06:33:52 | RedLeg | MeRWiN: Ah, the joys of living on the bleeding edge... |
06:34:03 | MeRWiN | RedLeg: hey, but it's a nice bleeding edge |
06:34:22 | RedLeg | MeRWiN: No complaints though, RB passed the stock firmware in useability LONG ago IMHO |
06:34:38 | MeRWiN | rwood: you might be waiting a bit for linus... |
06:35:01 | MeRWiN | RedLeg: yeah, the only feature that I'm really missing is fast forward within a song... and having quicker track changes would be nice too |
06:35:59 | rwood | the biggest issues that i have are track change time and back/previous |
06:36:34 | rwood | i use it in the car and don't see the display once i select a dir/playlist and hit go |
06:36:44 | RedLeg | MeRWiN: That doesn't bother me at all... I usually play an album at a time, use a playlist or just let is shuffle |
06:36:56 | MeRWiN | RedLeg: I usually just set it to shuffle too |
06:37:24 | MeRWiN | rwood: what do you mean you don't see the display? |
06:37:25 | RedLeg | Has anyone though about .cddb parsing to get around ID3 limitations? |
06:37:53 | MeRWiN | RedLeg: I've personally found that cddb for mp3's doesn't work too well for me |
06:38:26 | rwood | MeRWiN: i use the player with a cassette adapter, i hit start and put the player between the parking brake and console. |
06:38:33 | MeRWiN | rwood: ahh |
06:38:55 | rwood | i put a drop of hot glue on the next button so that i can find it easily |
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06:39:18 | RedLeg | MeRWiN: I got hooked on jwz's GRONK, which depends on .cddb files. I got used to faking them up if I didn't rim `em myself. |
06:39:41 | RedLeg | MeRWiN: s/rim/rip/ |
06:39:58 | MeRWiN | Hmm... I wonder if we could process .cddb files quickly enough with our wonderful processor |
06:41:01 | rwood | it would be interesting to run a profile program, but i'll bet that the processor is less then 20% utilized |
06:41:04 | RedLeg | MeRWiN: I don't see why not. It can't be any harder than parsing ID3s, and there's no length or charset limitation (that I know of) |
06:41:22 | RedLeg | MeRWiN: Plus, handy perl reference code.... |
06:42:07 | RedLeg | MeRWiN: There *is* a PERL interpreter in the RB, right? <GD&R> |
06:42:14 | MeRWiN | RedLeg: haha.. |
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06:42:39 | rwood | MeRWiN: your next assignment |
06:42:45 | RedLeg | MeRWiN: Still, from what I understand, it should be simple. |
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06:45:00 | MeRWiN | rwood: next assignment :) I'm going to get the EQ Presets done next (after 1.2 is out) |
06:45:15 | MeRWiN | RedLeg: Hmm... CDDB would be an interesting feature to have |
06:45:37 | dwihno | MeRWiN: individual configuration of the presets would be nice :) |
06:45:38 | RedLeg | MeRWiN: Are you folks familiar with jwz's GRONK? |
06:45:44 | MeRWiN | RedLeg: nope |
06:45:56 | MeRWiN | dwihno: i've already got the patch, just need to implement it with SAVE_TO_DISK also |
06:46:02 | RedLeg | Ah.... http://www.jwz.org/gronk |
06:46:18 | dwihno | MeRWiN: ah, mkay |
06:46:36 | MeRWiN | dwihno: actually, one of the cvs updates fucked with my patch so I'm rewriting it :) |
06:47:01 | rwood | MeRwiN: SAVE_TO_DISK and all that follows in the next great leap for RB |
06:47:01 | RedLeg | He's one of the old sk00l hax0rs, responsible for lucid emacs, early netscape and started the mozilla project |
06:47:51 | MeRWiN | Too bad I don't use unix primarily |
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06:48:32 | RedLeg | MeRWiN: Easy to cure.... |
06:48:43 | MeRWiN | not on my laptop :( It's a work laptop |
06:48:46 | RedLeg | 8-) |
06:48:52 | MeRWiN | the closest I can get is cygwin |
06:48:53 | RedLeg | So's mine.... |
06:49:13 | RedLeg | It's amazing what you can get away with if you NEVER call the help desk |
06:49:20 | rwood | RedLeg: not so easy if the company software is all DOS/Windows based |
06:49:49 | MeRWiN | RedLeg: Win2k SP3 got rid of my ability to use the Nortel VPN client :) It kept saying that the drivers weren't installed properly, but I uninstalled SP3 and it worked fine again |
06:50:14 | rwood | i am also using cygwin. i tried the KPIT package, but couldn't get the make files and scripts to work properly |
06:50:51 | RedLeg | That doesn't sound right.... we use it, and I have had virtually no probs... |
06:51:09 | MeRWiN | Cygwin is a godsend |
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06:51:39 | RedLeg | As far as running dos/winblows apps, look at http://www.codeweavers.com |
06:51:41 | MeRWiN | elinenbe! |
06:51:54 | RedLeg | I use crossover plugin, and it R0X! |
06:52:01 | MeRWiN | RedLeg: Can't run activex objects... our Prepaid billing system runs on IE |
06:52:50 | RedLeg | New version of crossover office came out yesterday, worth a look.... |
06:53:01 | MeRWiN | free? |
06:53:03 | RedLeg | IE −−> Gag... |
06:53:18 | RedLeg | Close, $55 US |
06:53:26 | MeRWiN | $55 more than i have *grin* |
06:53:29 | RedLeg | Cheaper than Win2K |
06:53:36 | rwood | i've been supporting |
06:54:24 | rwood | (sorry) BGates since F80 (fortran for CPM in the early 80's |
06:54:45 | rwood | i'd like to get out of the update cycle at some point |
06:55:21 | RedLeg | You need crisis intervention, dude..... |
06:55:36 | rwood | amen |
06:55:37 | RedLeg | We CAN deprogram you |
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07:06:29 | RedLeg | ? |
07:10:14 | MeRWiN | wow, Wine is doing great... I didn't know it had progressed so far (last time i used it was when it only supported win3.1) |
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07:18:30 | RedLeg | MeRWiN: yeah, it rox... crossover is worth the $$ just for the environment setup scripts. |
07:19:13 | MeRWiN | RedLeg: crossover run the same amount of programs as wine? |
07:19:54 | RedLeg | MeRWiN: Crossover −−IS−− wine, with some commercial developers behind is, and a sane set of default scripts |
07:20:11 | MeRWiN | RedLeg: Interesting... so how do they sell it? |
07:21:52 | RedLeg | MeRWiN: You buy a -package-, install scripts, support, etc. |
07:22:01 | MeRWiN | ahh |
07:22:01 | MeRWiN | k |
07:24:46 | RedLeg | tis worth it, trust me... test drive the crossover plugin, you won't believe how much you get for $25.95 |
07:25:05 | MeRWiN | :) |
07:28:36 | rwood | MeRWiN: you said you are using win - what IRC package are you using? |
07:29:05 | MeRWiN | rwood: mirc... Just because it's nice and small and I've been using it for about 8 years now |
07:30:12 | MeRWiN | rwood: what do you use? |
07:30:32 | rwood | MeRWiN: i downloaded it last night and am still trying to figure it out - the documentation talks about a zillion / options but doesn't describe the graphical interface |
07:31:13 | MeRWiN | rwood: It's really easy to use... the options menu has everything. although there is some shortcuts that aren't described anywhere and you just find over time |
07:33:17 | rwood | MeRWiM: one quick question - is there a short cut/whatever for putting in the nickame you are addressing - ie MeRWiN - the caps drive me crazy |
07:33:54 | RedLeg | rwood: try "Me <tab>" |
07:34:00 | MeRWiN | yeah... what RedLeg said |
07:34:41 | rwood | RedLeg: thanks my shift fingers thank you |
07:36:00 | MeRWiN | rwood: saves me from accidently typing Badger instead of Bagder :-) |
07:36:47 | rwood | MeRWiN: looking back i've brutalized you several times |
07:37:06 | RedLeg | rwood: natch.... I hate IRC actually, the shortcuts are the only saving grace |
07:40:55 | MeRWiN | brb |
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07:43:49 | Linus | dwihno: umea.se? |
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07:44:49 | rwood | RedLeg: Linus can probably answer your question |
07:45:26 | Linus | ? |
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07:45:39 | Linus | Baggy! |
07:45:42 | Bagder | morning |
07:45:43 | RedLeg | First, thanks for all the fine work.... |
07:45:54 | Linus | thx |
07:46:09 | MeRWiN | morn |
07:46:33 | dwihno | Linus: umea.se! Yay! |
07:46:37 | RedLeg | Linus: I'm compiling out of CVS, and lately have what looks like a loop or repeat icon on the statusbar of my REC20 |
07:46:42 | dwihno | Linus: or did you actually mean something? :) |
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07:47:00 | Linus | dwihno: i thought you were in Stockholm |
07:47:08 | Linus | RedLeg: yes? |
07:47:12 | Bagder | RedLeg: indeedo |
07:47:14 | dwihno | Linus: I am. |
07:47:23 | Linus | the repeat is always on at the moment |
07:47:30 | RedLeg | I'm trying to figure out how to make it go back to normal play-to-end-of-list mode |
07:47:35 | RedLeg | Ah.... |
07:47:41 | Linus | sorry about that |
07:47:49 | RedLeg | No complaints. |
07:47:55 | Bagder | RedLeg: we postponed that effort to after 1.2 |
07:48:10 | RedLeg | BTSOO the stock firmware for some time now.... |
07:48:17 | Linus | Actually, i am working on the playlist looping as we speak |
07:48:20 | dwihno | Bagder: I am doing my laundry now :-) |
07:48:36 | Linus | it still bugs, even after Zagors latest fix |
07:48:37 | Bagder | dwihno: sounds very fun, I wish I could be there with you B-) |
07:48:51 | Linus | share moments, share life |
07:49:00 | Bagder | Linus: so you fix things for 1.2 still? |
07:49:03 | RedLeg | I'm staying up `til 0200 to chat w/ RB developers.... still not recovered from DEFCON! |
07:49:14 | Linus | Bagder: i could leave the bug there if you wish |
07:49:30 | Bagder | Linus: -i leave that for you to decide |
07:49:35 | dwihno | Bagder: I understand your envy! I am using two washing machines today - amusement x 2! |
07:49:39 | Linus | it isn't all that dangerous |
07:49:51 | Linus | only for farbror frej fans |
07:49:53 | dwihno | :D |
07:50:02 | Bagder | heheh |
07:50:11 | dwihno | farbror frej is the coolest! |
07:50:50 | Linus | there are a zillion special cases to take care of in playlist_next() because we don't have the peek() |
07:51:20 | Bagder | Linus: so perhaps we need to put the peek back? |
07:51:24 | Bagder | and make it behave |
07:51:26 | Linus | perhaps |
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07:51:39 | Linus | but that would be post-1.2 |
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07:51:52 | Bagder | Linus: right |
07:52:03 | Bagder | Zagor has prepared the download page already |
07:52:04 | dwihno | Bollen på mejseln och tusseli-toss, så har vi gjort oss ett tomtebloss! |
07:52:33 | Linus | Has he tagged the files yet? |
07:52:33 | Bagder | so everything is set for release today |
07:52:51 | Bagder | Linus: no, only "prepared" not done it for real yet |
07:53:09 | Linus | i'll commit as soon as he have done that |
07:53:18 | Bagder | I have a neat player-simulator fix coming in the second he tags ;-) |
07:53:34 | Linus | we have a ton of patches too |
07:54:25 | dwihno | I didn't know you actually could make a CD-ROM with a regular music disc and caviar ;) |
07:54:54 | Linus | dwihno: Farbror Frej is not only a singer, he is a scientist |
07:56:34 | Bagder | hehe, someone mailed "subscribe me" to majordomo |
07:56:58 | Bagder | so the confirmation mail went to me@cool.haxx.se |
07:57:04 | dwihno | Linus: hahahaha :) |
07:57:04 | Linus | i still haven't been approved on the announce list |
07:57:28 | Bagder | "Aug 08 07:13:07 cool.haxx.se majordomo[12481] {"Nielsen Linus (ext)" <Linus.Nie\ |
07:57:28 | Bagder | lsen@elema.siemens.se>} request subscribe rockbox-announce linus@haxx.se" |
07:57:53 | Linus | yes, i have subscribed |
07:57:58 | Linus | but i am "awaiting approval" |
07:58:40 | Bagder | I wonder if that might require Björn's touch |
07:58:46 | Linus | probably |
07:58:59 | Linus | too many things do, unfortunately |
07:59:09 | Bagder | right |
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08:00:42 | Bagder | the compile status table looks fiiiiine |
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08:02:10 | dwihno | How soon will the release of 1.2 take place? |
08:02:13 | dwihno | 2 hours |
08:02:14 | dwihno | 3? |
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08:02:45 | Bagder | when Zagor wakes up ;-) |
08:03:14 | dwihno | In 8 hours then :-) |
08:03:30 | Bagder | lazy person B) |
08:03:40 | dwihno | I am concerned about the insane amount of coffee you people are consuming |
08:04:34 | Bagder | don't worry, we can affort it... *g* |
08:04:45 | dwihno | :-) |
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08:07:23 | Bagder | mbr: here? |
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08:08:58 | Linus | lazy germans... :-) |
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08:09:28 | Linus | MeRWiN: connection problems? |
08:09:43 | MeRWiN | Linus: trying to figure out an IRC script... |
08:09:47 | Linus | ah |
08:09:49 | MeRWiN | the themes aren't working right |
08:10:11 | RedLeg | Linus: Gotta sleep.... thanks again |
08:10:21 | Linus | night RedLeg! |
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08:11:09 | MeRWiN | well I give up almost |
08:12:55 | MeRWiN | os(Windows 2000 Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.0 - 2195)) ram(Usage: 218/320MB (68.13%)) uptime(5hrs 24mins 45secs) screen(1024x768 16bit 60Hz) drives(c: (5.84G/11.24G), e: (0G/0.05G), f: (0G/0.06G)) |
08:13:04 | MeRWiN | ack |
08:13:40 | rwood | all we wanted to know about MeRWiN |
08:13:50 | MeRWiN | rwood: damn themes |
08:13:51 | MeRWiN | :) |
08:16:44 | rwood | I'm gone for a week - thought i might have a problem with icode section, but it looks like crt0 takes care of it |
08:17:06 | Linus | rwood: please elaborate |
08:18:31 | rwood | Linus: the testing that i did on ROLO was before the icode section was implemented - but it looks like crt0 copies icode from 0x09xxxxx to 0x0fxxxxx |
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08:18:55 | Linus | yes? |
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08:19:50 | rwood | Linus: i thought the problem that you had may have been associated with icode, now i don't |
08:20:17 | Linus | no, i don't think so either |
08:20:37 | Linus | i don't see how icode can have anything to do with it |
08:20:38 | MeRWiN | brb again |
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08:21:23 | dwihno | how did merwin do that? :) |
08:21:57 | rwood | Linus: when i get back i am going to order a recorder - if you don't have time to look at the problem, i'll continue when i get the recorder |
08:22:15 | Bagder | hehe, that's the spirit! ;-) |
08:22:34 | Linus | rwood: great! |
08:22:42 | Linus | the recorder rox! |
08:23:09 | Linus | (i wish i could get rid of that disturbing background noise...) |
08:23:21 | Linus | my unit is noisy |
08:23:34 | rwood | speaking of spirit - don't try to code on 2 martinis - back after a week with the in-laws - over and out |
08:23:45 | Linus | and i hear a loud POP when i start it up |
08:23:54 | Bagder | pop? |
08:23:59 | Bagder | I don't get any |
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08:24:18 | Bagder | only synthpop, but that's intentional ;-) |
08:24:20 | Linus | no, it's just my unit |
08:25:16 | | Join MeRWiN [0] (~borgirc@12.242.185.10) |
08:26:33 | Bagder | Linus: btw, I like the idea of having the mpeg thread spindown do like now if no recent keypress, and otherwise use the "current" timeout |
08:27:11 | Linus | yeah, it's probably the most sensible thing to do |
08:28:20 | Linus | it's just an ata.c fix |
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08:28:35 | Linus | or maybe not... |
08:28:40 | Linus | hmmm |
08:28:51 | Bagder | isn't it the mpeg that should check for a recent key and if there was, not force spindown? |
08:29:09 | Linus | i don't like mpeg to check for keys |
08:29:15 | Bagder | true |
08:29:22 | dwihno | Yay! I got a SMS! :-D |
08:29:28 | dwihno | I just love that |
08:29:34 | Linus | but it could ask the ata driver if the disk is spinning before it starts loading |
08:29:44 | Bagder | ah, good idea |
08:29:58 | * | Bagder gets his mail by SMS off work hours |
08:30:00 | dwihno | Music tip: SMS to my heart, by Modern talking. From the albm |
08:30:01 | Linus | i'll do that |
08:30:03 | dwihno | amertica |
08:30:05 | dwihno | america |
08:31:02 | Linus | by the way, i'm starting to dislike the directory name "firmware" |
08:31:10 | Bagder | yeah |
08:31:12 | Linus | it should be "os" or something |
08:31:15 | Bagder | it's off |
08:31:24 | Bagder | "kernel" could work too |
08:31:29 | Linus | yeah |
08:31:31 | Bagder | or "core" |
08:31:42 | Bagder | but that would confuse unix people ;-) |
08:31:42 | Linus | anything but "firmware" |
08:32:02 | Bagder | thing is we can't rename that easily now |
08:32:11 | Linus | not in CVS :-( |
08:32:21 | Bagder | we need svn! |
08:32:31 | Linus | svn? |
08:32:40 | Bagder | subversion |
08:32:43 | Linus | ah |
08:33:00 | Bagder | funnily enough Hadaka is also involved in the svn project |
08:33:17 | Linus | it's a small Open Source worls |
08:33:20 | Linus | world |
08:33:33 | Bagder | yeah |
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08:39:43 | adi|home | well.. we _could_ do the switch at the same time we go gold on 1.2 |
08:39:54 | adi|home | just take all the stuff and recursively commit it |
08:40:27 | Bagder | sure, it is possible |
08:40:31 | MeRWiN | OK, I think I have this whole theme thing down |
08:40:55 | Bagder | but we lose the history |
08:42:37 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
08:43:41 | adi|home | nods |
08:43:43 | adi|home | i know |
08:43:50 | adi|home | but once we're at 1.2, does it matter? |
08:44:05 | Bagder | I'd rather live with a somewhat bad name |
08:44:06 | adi|home | i mean, dont destroy the old 'firmware; branch |
08:44:11 | adi|home | just don't reference it anymore |
08:44:25 | adi|home | and once we are sufficently happy.. it goes bye ye |
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08:49:50 | * | Bagder nickserv identify nintendo |
08:49:58 | Bagder | bah |
08:50:04 | StalkerScript80 | hmm |
08:50:06 | * | Bagder runs hiding |
08:50:07 | | Nick StalkerScript80 is now known as MeRWiN- (~Stalker@12.242.185.10) |
08:50:51 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
08:51:09 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Linus " by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
08:51:53 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK MeRWiN- |
08:51:53 | MeRWiN- | ,1Memory(RAM): Usage: 234/320MB (73.13%) [||||||||||] |
08:51:58 | MeRWiN- | wow, this is annoying |
08:52:55 | Linus | MeRWiN-: you scared us when joining as "StalkerScript80" |
08:52:59 | MeRWiN- | hah |
08:53:01 | MeRWiN- | sorry :) |
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08:53:21 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK MeRWiN |
08:53:26 | MeRWiN | trying out different scripts |
08:53:36 | Linus | what do those scripts do`+ |
08:54:09 | MeRWiN | Just basically make irc look nice and colorize it on my screen |
08:54:13 | MeRWiN | autojoin, etc |
08:54:18 | Linus | ok |
08:54:19 | MeRWiN | kind of like BitchX for windows |
08:54:52 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 1 minute and 28 seconds at the last flood |
08:54:52 | * | Bagder changes his inckserv password ;-) |
08:55:03 | Linus | hehe |
08:55:16 | * | Bagder can't write /msg |
08:55:35 | MeRWiN | brb |
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08:55:44 | Linus | i don't have a registered nick |
08:55:45 | | Nick StalkerScript80 is now known as MeRWiN (~Stalker@12.242.185.10) |
08:56:10 | Bagder | Linus: if you had, adiamas could set you up for ops |
08:56:11 | Linus | MeRWiN: you might consider testing your script in a separate channel |
08:56:33 | Linus | "Linus" is kind of busy |
08:56:46 | Bagder | is it? you use it here all the time, right? |
08:56:55 | MeRWiN | Linus: sorry :) I think i'm finished testing |
08:56:59 | Linus | yes, but nickserv complains |
08:57:07 | Bagder | aha |
08:58:05 | Linus | I guess i could make up a nice nick, but i like "Linus" |
08:58:31 | adi|home | lol |
08:58:38 | adi|home | hmm what i miss? |
08:58:49 | Bagder | my password ;-) |
08:58:50 | Linus | is my english that bad? :-) |
08:58:53 | adi|home | oh.. i saw that |
08:58:57 | adi|home | very creatvie ;) |
08:59:05 | Bagder | hehe |
08:59:06 | adi|home | Linus you want onto the op list? |
08:59:21 | Linus | yes, but can i, without a registered nick? |
08:59:26 | adi|home | nope |
08:59:30 | adi|home | need a registered nick |
08:59:52 | Linus | that was what we were discussing |
09:00 |
09:00:07 | adi|home | Bagder: i prefer "msg chanserv op #rockbox myBosS1s4D1ck |
09:00:08 | adi|home | lol |
09:00:55 | Linus | how do you check if a nick is occupied? |
09:01:23 | adi|home | try and register it |
09:01:34 | * | adi|home notices that his space key must be rusting |
09:01:41 | adi|home | after i spilled soda on my keyboard |
09:01:50 | adi|home | 10 years, never had a single spill on my keyboard |
09:01:55 | adi|home | in one night i had 3 |
09:01:58 | adi|home | i was SO pissed |
09:02:10 | Linus | i filled my keyboard with Coke once |
09:02:21 | Linus | i took it apart and rinsed it |
09:02:45 | Linus | worked perfectly |
09:02:57 | Linus | except for the 's' key... |
09:03:25 | Linus | a whole days work lost in Adobe Premere, because CTRL-S didn't work... |
09:03:59 | MeRWiN | how can you register your nick? |
09:05:38 | adi|home | ummm.. last i check.. i think |
09:05:53 | adi|home | "/msg nickserv help |
09:05:55 | MeRWiN | Linus: ouch |
09:06:08 | adi|home | "/msg nickserv register" |
09:06:23 | adi|home | "/msg nickserv register <password>" |
09:06:42 | MeRWiN | neato... |
09:07:01 | Linus | aha! "The nickname [linusn] is not registered" |
09:07:23 | MeRWiN | linus is taken though? |
09:07:27 | Linus | yes |
09:07:49 | MeRWiN | well that sucks... i guess linus would be taken.. after all, take #linuxhelp :) Someone would have registered it |
09:08:01 | Linus | interestingly, the registered nick is "LinuS", but nickserv seems to be case insensitive |
09:08:26 | MeRWiN | last seen 34 weeks ago |
09:08:26 | Linus | "Last Seen: 34 weeks 4 days (12h 1m 54s) ago" |
09:08:45 | Linus | i want to kill it |
09:08:48 | MeRWiN | I wonder if you can |
09:08:57 | Linus | i can't |
09:09:09 | MeRWiN | There must be someone who can :P |
09:09:14 | Linus | "RECOVER Kill another user who has taken your nick" |
09:09:19 | Linus | hmmm |
09:09:28 | Linus | how do i take another person's nick? |
09:09:44 | MeRWiN | Without having their password, not easy probably |
09:10:18 | Linus | so RECOVER is more like trying with an old password? |
09:10:41 | MeRWiN | Possibly |
09:11:29 | MeRWiN | recover kills someone if they took your nickname... but you have to have the password |
09:12:07 | Linus | yes, but how do i take another persons nickname? |
09:12:48 | MeRWiN | same way you are logged in right now :) If the registered linus logged in, he could take the nickname back by using the recover command |
09:13:17 | Linus | ok, so if he decides to join this channel he can kick me out? |
09:13:35 | MeRWiN | if he decides to log on to openprojects.net |
09:13:43 | Linus | ok |
09:14:50 | adi|home | Linus do you work from home and work? |
09:15:15 | Linus | "linust created 1 week 5 days (13h 8m 32s) ago" |
09:15:20 | dwihno | linus is a workaholic |
09:15:21 | Linus | i wonder who that is? |
09:15:25 | dwihno | he drinks coffee 24/7 |
09:15:31 | Linus | i am at work |
09:15:35 | dwihno | Workaholic! |
09:15:47 | Linus | long compile times is a rockboxer's dream |
09:16:49 | dwihno | The workaholic he works every day, 24 hours, no time to play. He won't quit; he's addicted to work, I think he's going out like a jerk. Working, Working, what can you do? See the light from a different point of view! Ready in the morning for the bell to chime, I think he's glad it's working |
09:16:49 | dwihno | Time! |
09:17:05 | dwihno | 2 unlimited - workaholic |
09:17:14 | dwihno | reminds me of when I was younger ,) |
09:17:51 | adi|home | well. you could do like i do |
09:17:55 | adi|home | Linus|work |
09:17:57 | adi|home | and Linus|home |
09:18:04 | * | adi|home life is easier that wya |
09:18:19 | * | adi|home sends his work name pm's that way to remember shit |
09:19:15 | dwihno | Or you can use a SSH connection to your box @ home or such :) |
09:19:58 | adi|home | nah.. i don't want to access the machine |
09:20:04 | adi|home | just leave a message for when i get there :) |
09:20:38 | adi|home | bagder-shirt.png">http://rockbox.haxx.se/tshirt-contest/bagder-shirt.png |
09:20:40 | adi|home | lol |
09:20:42 | adi|home | i love it :) |
09:21:11 | adi|home | how about 'where there is a will and shitty firmware, there's a way' |
09:23:42 | Bagder | :-) |
09:24:08 | Bagder | feel free to improve on my design! |
09:26:48 | Linus | Bagder: the logo should be larger |
09:27:36 | Linus | i think "linusn" will do fine, don't you think? |
09:28:15 | Linus | (it should probably be "linusnf" for Linus Nielsen Feltzing) |
09:29:03 | Bagder | Linus: well, the logo could be larger yes, but I'm not really a graphics guy, you know that |
09:29:21 | Linus | Bagder: i know that for sure *shrug* :-) |
09:29:37 | dwihno | Time to do the dishes |
09:29:41 | Bagder | I just needed to boost the contest |
09:29:45 | dwihno | I know you all envy me ;) |
09:30:10 | dwihno | Bagder: can you help me out with the dishes since you were unable to help me out eith the laundry? :) |
09:30:35 | Bagder | dwihno: sure, just send it over. I'm in Västberga right now! |
09:31:05 | dwihno | Bagder: örps, Västberga? where's that? |
09:31:17 | Bagder | near Midsommarkransen |
09:31:29 | dwihno | and where's that? :) |
09:31:35 | dwihno | My lokalsinne is not that good ya'know :) |
09:31:36 | Linus | dwihno: where are you? |
09:31:47 | Bagder | hehe, south of stockholm |
09:31:59 | dwihno | I found my way home tuesday night with a nattbuss. I was rather pleased I actually got home at the first attempt! :) |
09:32:02 | dwihno | Norsborg :) |
09:32:19 | dwihno | I used to live in the southern parts previousley |
09:33:03 | dwihno | I need to do the dishes. Damn, how boring. |
09:33:15 | dwihno | Fortunately, I got my archos to play music making the time pass faster :) |
09:33:15 | Linus | we have machines for that |
09:33:55 | dwihno | "If you want something done, you better do it yourself" :) |
09:35:54 | dwihno | A little poll: Do you people lock your workstations when leaving for a short/long while? |
09:35:59 | Linus | yes |
09:36:10 | Linus | always |
09:36:22 | dwihno | How come? |
09:36:33 | Linus | i'm paranoid |
09:36:33 | Bagder | *YES* |
09:36:43 | dwihno | ah |
09:36:46 | dwihno | that explains it :-) |
09:36:52 | Bagder | I lock it if I leave even for a few secs |
09:36:53 | dwihno | How complex password do you have? |
09:37:31 | Linus | dwihno: let me put it like this: i wish i had 20 fingers :-) |
09:37:39 | dwihno | :) |
09:38:18 | dwihno | Well, if you use emacs, you need 20 fingers in order to be able to use it :-) |
09:38:39 | Bagder | you're halucinating now dwihno |
09:38:51 | Bagder | emacs is intuitive |
09:38:54 | dwihno | Must be the fumes from the dishes |
09:38:54 | Bagder | emacs is nice |
09:38:57 | Bagder | emacs rocks |
09:39:05 | dwihno | I'm more a vi person ;) |
09:39:21 | Linus | vi is common knowledge |
09:39:46 | dwihno | I prefer it over emacs. |
09:39:50 | Linus | you need vi to edit your .emacs on a new system |
09:39:57 | Bagder | hehe |
09:40:14 | dwihno | Mostly because of I NEVER seem to remember how to save/quit etc. |
09:40:34 | Linus | oh, so :q is easier to remember? |
09:40:36 | dwihno | yeah |
09:40:41 | Bagder | bah |
09:40:46 | Bagder | :!q |
09:40:48 | Bagder | :-) |
09:40:51 | dwihno | instead of ctrl+k+w+q+s+meta+shift |
09:40:54 | Linus | no, :q! |
09:40:57 | Bagder | oops |
09:41:12 | Bagder | dwihno: its the same amount of keys |
09:41:15 | Bagder | control-x q |
09:41:19 | Bagder | three |
09:41:46 | Bagder | hm |
09:41:50 | dwihno | Well, everybody should use the editor they seem fit :) |
09:41:54 | Bagder | wrong ;-) |
09:41:56 | Linus | ctrl-x ctrl-c? |
09:41:59 | Bagder | right |
09:42:01 | dwihno | even if that's edlin |
09:42:07 | Bagder | they're in my fingers, not in my head ;-) |
09:42:27 | dwihno | emacs-fingers! |
09:42:47 | Bagder | all it takes is working with emacs 8 hours a day for 10 years ;-) |
09:42:48 | Linus | Paganini was probably an emacs user |
09:43:39 | dwihno | Time to do the dishes. I've been waiting long enough |
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09:43:54 | | Nick dwihno|do_the_fs is now known as dwihno|dishes (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) |
09:43:57 | dwihno|dishes | damn nick restraints |
09:44:18 | Bagder | you should be lucky we have >9 letters ;-) |
09:45:02 | Linus | Zagor! wake up! |
09:47:41 | Bagder | zagor improved the sim yday |
09:47:43 | matsl | Just supplied an audio-icon patch. Any reason why it wasn't used before? |
09:47:52 | Bagder | now it sims wps and mpeg playing much better |
09:48:36 | matsl | Jumjum. Must test. |
09:49:00 | Bagder | matsl: I have a pretty nice playersim patch pending as well |
09:49:01 | matsl | Bagder: Hows it going with the icons for the simulator? |
09:49:38 | Bagder | I'm planning on having a word with mbr about them |
09:49:52 | Bagder | he being the icons wizard |
09:49:54 | Linus | mbr: the unvoluntary graphics guy |
09:50:28 | matsl | I would be sattisfied if there was just some dirt displayed! |
09:50:42 | mbr | morning, just the right time to join :) |
09:50:59 | Bagder | matsl: so convert your image to rockbox bitmap format and we're in |
09:51:15 | matsl | rockbox bitmap format? |
09:51:26 | Linus | matsl: the audio icon wasn't used because it is silly |
09:51:28 | Bagder | matsl: yes, as used for all internal bitmaps |
09:51:43 | Bagder | mbr: morning! |
09:52:12 | Bagder | matsl: for the player simulator, we use the recorder-lcd code |
09:52:13 | matsl | bagder: how do I convert to it? |
09:52:35 | Bagder | that's where mbr enters... :-) |
09:52:50 | Bagder | mbr: you have any nice way to convert images to rockbox bitmaps? |
09:53:30 | Bagder | I wanted to write a gimp plugin for it |
09:53:34 | Bagder | but couldn't find any docs |
09:53:47 | Bagder | how to add a save format |
09:53:52 | Linus | why have an audio icon when it is so obvious that the music is playing? |
09:54:51 | mbr | For now i used paper and pencil :) But probably the "bitmap" program will do it ... trying |
09:54:55 | matsl | linus: Why not use something on the LCD to indicate that we are in WPS? |
09:55:14 | Linus | because it is very obvious that we are in WPS |
09:55:25 | Bagder | matsl: bitmap format => http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-06/0269.shtml |
09:56:33 | matsl | bagder: ok. I'll look into it but can't do anything until next week. |
09:57:10 | Bagder | matsl: once we have the player icons as internal bitmaps, it'll be a piece of cake to add them to the sim |
09:57:31 | matsl | linus: OK. YMMW. I think it works quite nice. Try the patch and you'll see ;-) |
09:57:33 | Bagder | with my new fixes, it'll even look good and use a larger font |
09:58:01 | matsl | bagder: ok |
10:00 |
10:00:03 | Linus | what exactly is <audio> supposed to mean, anyway? |
10:00:15 | Linus | that there is sound in the earphones? |
10:00:46 | Linus | i think the icon is silly all over |
10:01:01 | Linus | i'm talking about the LCD design |
10:01:14 | | Join edx|notebook [0] (edx@dhcp17.kph.uni-mainz.de) |
10:01:33 | edx|notebook | hi |
10:01:39 | Linus | yo |
10:02:21 | edx|notebook | Linus: can I use 1.5 V non-rechargable batteries with my jb? |
10:02:44 | matsl | linus: I see it more as an visual indicator that we are in wps. Yes. That can ... |
10:02:52 | Linus | edx: i think so, but don't you ever connect the external power! |
10:03:04 | edx|notebook | Linus: yea.. naturally ;) |
10:03:12 | matsl | ... of course be seen through other means (looking at the info displayed) but the icon ... |
10:03:20 | edx|notebook | Linus: I tried yesterday and Rockbox wasnt even booted :/ |
10:03:27 | matsl | ... tells you that very easy. |
10:03:51 | Linus | matsl: yes, but what does the <audio> icon mean to the uninitiated user? |
10:04:08 | Linus | intuitively, <audio> means "sound" |
10:04:18 | Linus | and the sound can be on regardless of WPS |
10:05:53 | matsl | linus: I agree. (I still like it!) |
10:06:02 | Linus | if i push myself hard, i can think of <audio> being used as an indicator that the sound isn't muted |
10:07:10 | Linus | nickserv won't let me register "linusn" because "LinuS" is already registered! (?) |
10:09:36 | | Nick Linus is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
10:13:35 | | Part LinusN |
10:13:59 | * | edx|notebook made his own approach of designing a t-shirt |
10:14:04 | | Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
10:14:29 | LinusN | adi|home: you can op me as LinusN |
10:14:32 | Bagder | edx: beam it over and we'll put it up |
10:14:44 | edx|notebook | has just been beamt |
10:14:49 | edx|notebook | (or is it beamed?) |
10:14:54 | Bagder | goodie |
10:15:01 | | Join notch|busy [0] (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) |
10:16:14 | * | Bagder wanders off to install a test version in the lab |
10:20:51 | mbr | /msg NickServ help LINK |
10:21:08 | Hes | Hi |
10:21:26 | LinusN | hi Hes! I have a lot of questions |
10:21:27 | Bagder | hey hes |
10:21:41 | Hes | Whoa |
10:21:46 | Hes | I ended up with the EX70's |
10:22:14 | LinusN | great! |
10:22:19 | Hes | I think the Koss plugs sounded better, but they were a bit hard to place in the ear in a good angle |
10:22:28 | Bagder | edx: your design is now added |
10:22:58 | Hes | in which they sounded good... usually the other one was in a little bad angle and there was a noticeable balance difference especially in the bass section |
10:23:13 | edx|notebook | Bagder: thanks |
10:23:18 | Hes | The EX70's were very easy to plug in correctly, and were much better with the helmet on |
10:24:29 | LinusN | edx|notebook: your t-shirt design might be a little detailed to look good on the shirt |
10:24:45 | LinusN | Hes: the charging stops a little early |
10:24:53 | | Join Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
10:25:07 | Zagor | morning, guys. |
10:25:08 | Bagder | dr Zagor enters, now behave everyone |
10:25:20 | edx|notebook | hi Zagor |
10:25:21 | Hes | LinusN: I was suspecting that |
10:25:23 | Zagor | ooh, an op! :-) |
10:25:34 | edx|notebook | hmm how many of us have the EX70s now? |
10:25:41 | Hes | didn't have time to experiment with the tunings more |
10:25:46 | edx|notebook | maybe we should ask sony to be our sponsor :D |
10:26:18 | Zagor | no more bugs found since last night? |
10:26:19 | Bagder | nah, Haxx is a cooler sponsor ;-O |
10:26:23 | dwihno|dishes | :-) |
10:26:27 | * | dwihno|dishes IS DONE! |
10:26:28 | Bagder | Zagor: Linus found one |
10:26:32 | | Nick dwihno|dishes is now known as dwihno|no_dishes (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) |
10:26:37 | dwihno|no_dishes | No dishes left |
10:26:57 | Bagder | "farbror frej" struck again |
10:27:07 | Zagor | ugh |
10:28:25 | Hes | LinusN: lots of questions? keep 'em coming |
10:28:51 | matsl | zagor: ? |
10:28:51 | LinusN | actually, they are Uwe's questions |
10:28:55 | LinusN | on the mailing list |
10:29:18 | Hes | I'll browse through them |
10:29:33 | Zagor | matsl: bugs suck, by definition :) |
10:29:58 | matsl | zagor: What? |
10:30:02 | notch|busy | A number of my friends have got EX70's, but Sony dont sell them in the uk! Anyone know of an online shop I can get these from! |
10:30:17 | dwihno|no_dishes | ex70 = kickass |
10:31:03 | LinusN | affirmative! |
10:31:18 | matsl | zagor: remember the dir sort yesterday? Would that be a new option for sort or default? |
10:31:41 | Zagor | matsl: a new options, i think |
10:32:42 | matsl | zagor: So I thought. I could look into it since you seems so reluctant to include my m3u-patch ;-) |
10:33:18 | Bagder | matsl: well, the "crowds" haven't exactly raised that one to the skies either ;-) |
10:34:46 | matsl | bagder: gosh! Is there a list of things that the crowds demand then so I could be of some assistance. (Getting-bored-sending-patches-to-dev-null) |
10:35:25 | Bagder | there are feature requests, that's the closest thingg |
10:36:04 | Bagder | you don't mail the patches to /dev/null you just mail them to a bunch of people where player developers are a minority |
10:36:54 | matsl | bagder: could be same thing ... |
10:37:29 | LinusN | matsl: you can't expect us to merge every patch that comes along |
10:38:14 | LinusN | Zagor: have you tagged the 1.2 release yet? |
10:38:14 | Zagor | matsl: a sort option is small enough to merge |
10:38:26 | Zagor | no, i'll do it soon |
10:39:41 | matsl | linus: Of course not. |
10:40:04 | Zagor | i mean merge post-1.2. nothing more goes into 1.2 |
10:40:35 | LinusN | Zagor: that's why i want you to tag the damn thing, so i can start committing bug fixes |
10:41:22 | Bagder | we should release it |
10:41:24 | Bagder | now |
10:41:35 | Zagor | hehe. still holding out for that fatal bug report |
10:41:36 | edx|notebook | lol |
10:42:38 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
10:42:46 | Zagor | LinusN: what was the farbror frej bug? |
10:43:20 | matsl | zagor: I wasn't thinking of squeezing anything into 1.2. I was thinking of what I could do for post 1.2. |
10:43:24 | LinusN | your wrap patch isn't exactly water-proof |
10:43:56 | LinusN | but it is not a real problem for now |
10:44:03 | Zagor | what is the problem? |
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10:44:37 | mbr | Zagor: Don't forget to remove the clock from status bar befor |
10:44:42 | mbr | +releasing 1.2 |
10:45:37 | LinusN | Zagor: the problem is that the mpeg thread may load more files that there are in the directory |
10:45:54 | LinusN | imagine a dir with only one farbror frej file |
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10:47:21 | Zagor | right, doublewrap |
10:47:21 | LinusN | that file will be loaded 5 times by the mpeg thread |
10:47:29 | Zagor | s/if/while then |
10:47:30 | LinusN | and compensating by adding playlist.amount will not be enough to make the index positive |
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10:49:38 | LinusN | Zagor: did you get my bug explanation? (server problems) |
10:49:43 | Zagor | yes |
10:49:51 | Zagor | s/if/while/ should solve it |
10:50:04 | LinusN | i have another solution |
10:50:22 | LinusN | there are many more problems when we set loop_playlist to false |
10:50:31 | LinusN | i suggest we reimplement the peek() |
10:50:34 | Zagor | but we don't, so ignore that for now |
10:50:42 | LinusN | for now? |
10:50:45 | Zagor | for 1.2 |
10:51:03 | LinusN | of course, but we can't hold 1.2 forever |
10:51:28 | Bagder | I have a suggestion |
10:51:35 | Bagder | tag and branch 1.2 now |
10:51:36 | LinusN | tag it |
10:51:45 | Bagder | fix 1.2 in a branch |
10:51:49 | Bagder | allow commits on HEAD |
10:52:05 | Bagder | the 1.2 fixes are dead end anyway |
10:52:54 | Zagor | nah, there's just this one fix then i'm releasing |
10:53:27 | Zagor | what do you guys thing about the clock. leave it and mark in release notes that we can't set it, or remove it from 1.2? |
10:53:27 | Bagder | ok |
10:53:41 | Bagder | leave it |
10:53:52 | Bagder | I don't think it matters that much |
10:53:59 | Zagor | me neither |
10:54:16 | mbr | i'd perfer to include it, but i wanted to prevent tons of bug reports ... |
10:54:34 | LinusN | we should mention it in capital letters in the release notes |
10:54:39 | Bagder | we will just politely point to the release notes ;-) |
10:55:08 | mbr | as soon as 1.2 is released, i can check in my time setting menu |
10:55:28 | LinusN | we all have things to check in... |
10:56:42 | Bagder | it'll be a commit race! ;-) |
10:56:50 | Zagor | so, who builds the win32 sim? |
10:57:10 | LinusN | Bagder: haven't you fixed the daily build? |
10:57:21 | Bagder | mingw can't build it |
10:57:31 | Bagder | it isn't fixable |
10:57:33 | Bagder | afaik |
10:57:35 | LinusN | oh |
10:57:55 | edx|notebook | Zagor: i can build w32sim |
10:58:01 | Bagder | it builds console applications only |
10:58:01 | Zagor | good |
10:58:23 | Bagder | but the mingw build can still be good for verifying the win32 code and build process, just not run it |
10:58:33 | LinusN | true |
10:58:37 | edx|notebook | http://codeforce.d2g.com/rockbox/autocvs has the bleeding edge cvs... hmm we could link there from the page actually (better thatn thos builds it links to right now0 |
10:58:59 | Zagor | edx: yes, sorry, forgot that. i'll link there |
10:59:11 | * | Zagor announces 1.2 is tagged |
10:59:35 | edx|notebook | yay |
11:00 |
11:00:03 | LinusN | open the champagne bottles! |
11:00:25 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Zagor " by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
11:00:29 | LinusN | Zagor: WAIT! |
11:00:32 | LinusN | (just kidding) |
11:00:35 | Zagor | haha |
11:00:39 | * | Bagder slaps LinusN |
11:00:55 | edx|notebook | lol |
11:01:05 | * | edx|notebook too |
11:01:20 | * | LinusN is such a funny guy |
11:01:37 | edx|notebook | LOL |
11:01:41 | edx|notebook | nicely said :) |
11:03:42 | edx|notebook | btw, has anyone done anything to tetris in the last two weeks or so? |
11:04:00 | edx|notebook | i think the random number generator is pretty... well proto-type ;) |
11:04:16 | * | edx|notebook should have fixed that before the release |
11:04:17 | Bagder | LinusN changed the button function |
11:04:24 | edx|notebook | k |
11:04:30 | Bagder | which now makes it run faster if you press many keys ;-) |
11:04:38 | dwihno|no_dishes | :D |
11:04:40 | edx|notebook | :) |
11:04:46 | | Nick dwihno|no_dishes is now known as dwihno|noteboko (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) |
11:05:01 | adi|home | Okay.. LinusN.. your set |
11:05:05 | * | edx|notebook does not have his jb with him to test :/ |
11:05:12 | dwihno|noteboko | If my SMS inbox is full and somebody tries to send me a message, what happens then? |
11:05:26 | edx|notebook | lol |
11:05:26 | adi|home | linus.. do me a favor... see if you can op yourself now |
11:05:41 | LinusN | i can't |
11:05:42 | Bagder | dwin: you don't get it ;-) it'll keep trying to send it to you for some time |
11:05:43 | Zagor | dwihno|noteboko: it stays on the server and retried for a few days, then is thrown away |
11:05:45 | edx|notebook | dwihno: your handy gets crashed and everything including your card is deleted |
11:05:54 | adi|home | what are you typing? |
11:06:01 | dwihno|noteboko | edx|notebook: Oh no! :O |
11:06:08 | dwihno|noteboko | Zagor: ah, okay... I was worried for a second... I want my SMS:es :-) |
11:06:11 | adi|home | hmm.. try a hop first |
11:06:12 | | Nick dwihno|noteboko is now known as dwihno (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) |
11:06:17 | dwihno | gotta go with the garbage. |
11:06:22 | * | dwihno is having a "cleaning-day" |
11:06:30 | dwihno | which, generally speaking, SUCKS |
11:06:33 | | Nick LinusN is now known as Linus (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
11:06:39 | | Nick Linus is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
11:06:57 | adi|home | "/msg chanserv op #rockbox" |
11:07:11 | Mode | "#rockbox +o adi|home " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
11:07:27 | edx|notebook | how come you're all getting admins :P |
11:07:36 | Mode | "#rockbox +o LinusN " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
11:07:41 | Bagder | wooo |
11:07:42 | LinusN | wee! |
11:07:51 | adi|home | hehe edx you have it too ;) |
11:07:57 | adi|home | you've been on the access list a while |
11:08:00 | Mode | "#rockbox -o Zagor " by Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
11:08:08 | Zagor | :) |
11:08:15 | edx|notebook | i know |
11:08:15 | Mode | "#rockbox -o adi|home " by adi|home (~adiamas@as5300-10.216-194-24-54.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) |
11:08:17 | adi|home | :) |
11:08:18 | | Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@ns1.alcove-solutions.com) |
11:08:22 | edx|notebook | just was wondering why you all use it ;P |
11:08:36 | adi|home | hehe i was adding linus to the access list, so had to... |
11:08:38 | Mode | "#rockbox +o edx " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
11:08:55 | Mode | "#rockbox -o edx " by edx (OKE60@fapc.kph.uni-mainz.de) |
11:08:58 | edx | ther you go |
11:08:59 | Zagor | download page updated. writing announce mail. |
11:09:05 | edx|notebook | :DD |
11:09:19 | Bagder | so we can commit now? B) |
11:09:20 | dwihno | YAY! |
11:09:26 | LinusN | Zagor: approve me on the announce list! |
11:09:42 | dwihno | So when are we going to have the rockbox 1.2 release party? :-) Let's rent Sturehof ;D |
11:09:49 | adi|home | whats the mailing address for the general list? |
11:09:51 | Bagder | I suggest you announce to both the rockbox *and* the announce list |
11:09:58 | Zagor | yes |
11:11:05 | LinusN | Hes: i read that some manufacturers recommend "topping off" the charging with ~2 hours of trickle charging after negative delta detection |
11:11:28 | Hes | Yeah |
11:11:38 | Zagor | but we can't trickle, can we? |
11:11:42 | LinusN | we can |
11:12:02 | LinusN | by switching the charger on and off |
11:12:25 | Zagor | is that a proper trickle, really? |
11:12:33 | adi|home | should i list the 'channel' email address as rockbox@cool.haxx.se |
11:12:33 | adi|home | ? |
11:12:42 | Zagor | adi|home: yes |
11:12:47 | adi|home | k |
11:14:00 | Bagder | seriously, we can commit now, right? |
11:14:13 | Zagor | Bagder: yes, fire away |
11:14:22 | Bagder | thanks |
11:14:35 | adi|home | so 1.2 is out now? |
11:14:51 | LinusN | Zagor: some manufacturers say that switching on and off is the proper way |
11:14:54 | Zagor | yeppers. writing release announcement mail right now |
11:15:03 | Zagor | LinusN: ok. i'm no battery expert :-) |
11:15:10 | LinusN | me neither |
11:15:14 | LinusN | i just pretend |
11:15:30 | LinusN | Bagder: you won! |
11:15:39 | Bagder | yay |
11:15:47 | Hes | trickle charging _is_ turning the charger on and off 8-) |
11:16:00 | Hes | you can change the amount of energy flowing by adjusting the duty cycle |
11:16:00 | LinusN | Bagder: you get a free t-shirt! |
11:16:10 | Bagder | gee, I'm honored ;-) |
11:16:27 | LinusN | Hes: still, some say that trickle charging can be a constant C/50 |
11:17:10 | Hadaka | I must say though - battery charging seems like an awfully empirical science |
11:17:50 | LinusN | Hadaka: very true |
11:17:52 | Hadaka | one would've thought that all these years of battery usage would have sprouted quite a lot of hard facts on how batteries should and should not be used |
11:18:00 | Hadaka | but apparently no-one still has a definite clue |
11:18:05 | dwihno | Science? Hmm... Farbror Frej is a kickass scientist. Maybe we could ask him? |
11:18:13 | LinusN | :-) |
11:18:44 | Hes | Even the battery manufacturers don't agree on the details. |
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11:19:06 | Hes | The basics are pretty clear. |
11:19:18 | | Quit edx (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
11:19:23 | Hes | Setting up a good charger isn't very easy. |
11:19:52 | LinusN | and i guess all batteries aren't alike either |
11:20:00 | Hes | Someone posted a patch on the mailing list... which moved config bits location in the config block... suboptimal |
11:20:03 | Hadaka | hmmh |
11:20:13 | * | adi|home pokes Zagor in the side |
11:20:16 | adi|home | wtf is 1.2? |
11:20:19 | * | adi|home pouts |
11:20:21 | LinusN | so what the manufacturers are saying may apply to *their* batteries |
11:20:27 | * | adi|home wants instant gratification |
11:20:28 | Zagor | http://rockbox.haxx.se/download/ |
11:20:54 | adi|home | okay.. fine.. _ill_ uipdate the webpage ;) |
11:21:10 | Zagor | ah, you mean the front page. fire away. |
11:24:34 | LinusN | Zagor: the repeat mode also applies to dir play (release notes) |
11:24:51 | Zagor | i know. it says so already. |
11:25:10 | Zagor | "Directory playback (clicking PLAY on an mp3 file in the dir browser) also |
11:25:10 | Zagor | uses playlist options such as shuffle and repeat. |
11:25:10 | Zagor | " |
11:25:30 | LinusN | no, it says "Playlist repeat is hard coded to "Repeat all"." |
11:25:37 | LinusN | ah |
11:30:06 | matp|work | anyone know how to get linux to automount my drive when I plug it in ? |
11:30:22 | Bagder | hotplug is the keyword |
11:30:34 | * | adi|home used to have it set.. but i don't remember what it was... |
11:30:41 | Bagder | but I don't have it setup myself |
11:30:48 | adi|home | autodetect maybe? |
11:30:50 | * | adi|home thinks |
11:31:14 | Bagder | hotplug is the name of the linux system that deals with those matters |
11:31:22 | * | adi|home nods |
11:31:30 | adi|home | but don't you need a setting set in fstab> |
11:31:32 | adi|home | ? |
11:31:43 | Bagder | yes |
11:31:58 | adi|home | auot |
11:31:59 | Bagder | the hotplug system detects the USB device connection and then it performs an action |
11:31:59 | adi|home | auot |
11:32:02 | adi|home | auto even |
11:32:05 | matp|work | currently I plug it in, it loads the modules, then I have to mount it manually |
11:32:06 | * | adi|home nods |
11:32:17 | adi|home | make sure your fstab has auto in the line for the archos |
11:32:55 | matp|work | Bagder: ok. does it autounmount as well. i guess that would be dodgy ...? |
11:33:33 | Bagder | I'm not really good at this, I'm only repeating some things I've read, I haven't fiddled with this myself |
11:34:28 | Zagor | have we determined that the background noise was from the rtc? |
11:34:39 | edx|notebook | Bagder, what compiler did you use for the win32sim again? |
11:34:54 | LinusN | Zagor: not really |
11:34:54 | Bagder | edx|notebook: on linux? mingw |
11:34:56 | edx|notebook | it might just be a parameter that is missing in the command line to make it work |
11:35:00 | matp|work | http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net/ it's for 2.4 kernels only :( |
11:35:15 | Bagder | you don't run 2.4? |
11:35:18 | adi|home | umm.. does the website update as soon as i commit, or will it take some time? |
11:35:37 | Zagor | adi|home: it takes time. but i'll do it manually now |
11:35:42 | adi|home | ty |
11:36:01 | Zagor | tada |
11:36:15 | matp|work | actually, yes, I forgot we upgraded the laptop images at work |
11:36:24 | adi|home | hehe typo.. one sec |
11:36:29 | Zagor | no wait |
11:36:36 | Zagor | i'll fix it, and some other things |
11:36:42 | adi|home | okay |
11:36:50 | adi|home | didn't know what you wanted removed from the list |
11:37:03 | Zagor | exactly :-) (what was the typo?) |
11:37:25 | Zagor | oh, 1.2 |
11:37:47 | adi|home | is Felix around? |
11:37:51 | edx|notebook | me? |
11:37:53 | edx|notebook | yea |
11:37:54 | adi|home | I dunno what his nick is... |
11:37:58 | edx|notebook | edx :)O |
11:38:02 | adi|home | lol |
11:38:04 | adi|home | k.. |
11:38:10 | adi|home | small request on your shirt submission :) |
11:38:16 | edx|notebook | sure |
11:38:19 | adi|home | lol |
11:38:22 | adi|home | the shot of the archos you have |
11:38:31 | edx|notebook | yea.. |
11:38:34 | edx|notebook | you want to have it? |
11:38:40 | adi|home | could you possibly remove the screen w/ the factory firmware on it :) |
11:38:44 | edx|notebook | actually |
11:38:46 | Zagor | haha |
11:38:46 | edx|notebook | oh |
11:38:48 | edx|notebook | sure lol |
11:38:52 | edx|notebook | thats cute |
11:38:53 | LinusN | good one! |
11:38:59 | * | adi|home bows deeply |
11:39:00 | edx|notebook | i took the one from the devcon site :D |
11:39:08 | * | edx|notebook shames ;) |
11:39:08 | adi|home | thats what i figured :) |
11:39:18 | edx|notebook | hmm |
11:39:22 | adi|home | take a screen shot from the sim.. and cut and paste it |
11:39:23 | adi|home | :) |
11:39:32 | edx|notebook | ill take another picture later today and fix it lol |
11:39:37 | adi|home | hehe ty |
11:39:42 | * | adi|home is a bit picky :) |
11:39:57 | adi|home | and steal my developers list idea huh ;) |
11:40:07 | adi|home | get all fancy with colors.. you you you.. theif! |
11:40:10 | edx|notebook | hey |
11:40:15 | adi|home | ;) |
11:40:20 | edx|notebook | i have had the first tshirt EVER existed of rockbox |
11:40:26 | edx|notebook | and it already got a list of names |
11:40:41 | adi|home | lol |
11:40:43 | adi|home | cheater ;) |
11:40:54 | edx|notebook | http://codeforce.d2g.com/rockbox/tshirt.jpg |
11:41:03 | edx|notebook | that was like a few months ago |
11:41:21 | adi|home | i like the addition of the irc info |
11:42:16 | LinusN | edx|notebook: that was a *long* time ago! |
11:42:30 | edx|notebook | LinusN: yea |
11:42:31 | LinusN | several MONTHS! |
11:42:33 | adi|home | hehe |
11:42:42 | adi|home | that was like.. pre 1.0 right? |
11:42:46 | edx|notebook | yea |
11:42:55 | edx|notebook | there are only a few names on it |
11:43:04 | adi|home | "back in the olden days" |
11:43:13 | edx|notebook | hmm bagder, what makefile do you use for mingw? |
11:43:25 | Bagder | the win32/Makefile |
11:43:26 | adi|home | i have to say.. this has been the most successful OSS project ive been a part of yet |
11:43:38 | dwihno | Yeah, I'd love to get mingw to compile the simulator on windows as well |
11:43:39 | * | edx|notebook does not have that file |
11:43:40 | LinusN | Bagder: we should have a link in the menu for the t-shirt contest |
11:43:44 | edx|notebook | lol |
11:43:51 | * | adi|home agrees |
11:44:02 | Bagder | edx|notebook: if you're up-to-date you have it |
11:44:04 | LinusN | at least separate from the news list |
11:44:11 | Bagder | I agree |
11:44:16 | adi|home | ill put it in |
11:44:20 | adi|home | itll update later then |
11:45:16 | edx|notebook | Bagder: i thought i was.. wait a sec |
11:45:58 | adi|home | you think we should put the stuff in that list in some kind of order? |
11:46:04 | Zagor | new poll in the archos group: "Which firmware do you mostly use? o Archos o Rockbox" |
11:46:11 | Zagor | (not by me) |
11:47:13 | adi|home | lol |
11:47:16 | LinusN | cool |
11:47:17 | adi|home | you have a link to it? |
11:47:18 | * | Bagder votes |
11:47:20 | matp|work | I didn't get the 1.2 announcement on the mailing list, I got George's congrats mail though. |
11:47:23 | Bagder | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/archosjukebox6000/surveys?id=954399 |
11:47:37 | adi|home | okay.. update made |
11:47:41 | Zagor | matp|work: odd. it's in the archive |
11:48:12 | matp|work | may be my mail server. it's xchange crap |
11:48:21 | matp|work | probably holding onto it |
11:48:36 | matp|work | anyway. well done guys! very good work. |
11:48:53 | Zagor | adi|home: fyi head.t updates don't work well, due to missing dependecies |
11:48:59 | Zagor | i'm fixing it manually |
11:49:56 | adi|home | ahh.. okay.. sorry |
11:50:07 | adi|home | um.. we have settings stored now correct? |
11:50:11 | adi|home | that was part of 1.2 |
11:50:12 | adi|home | right? |
11:50:42 | adi|home | Zagor, we need to fix the 'Roadmap' |
11:50:49 | adi|home | get rid of 1.1 atleast |
11:50:52 | adi|home | correct 1.2/3 |
11:51:03 | adi|home | and maybe start considering targets for 1.4 |
11:51:42 | Zagor | yup |
11:52:02 | matp|work | just got it now |
11:55:30 | Hes | add better/tuned charging logic for 1.3 |
11:56:01 | edx|notebook | bagder: you should be able to create win32 apps.. read this: |
11:56:02 | edx|notebook | http://www.mingw.org/docs.shtml#compilingandbuilding |
11:56:12 | edx|notebook | scroll down a little to the win32 app seciton |
11:56:45 | Bagder | ok |
11:56:52 | Bagder | so then it should work |
11:57:03 | Bagder | ah |
11:57:07 | Bagder | "-mwindows" |
11:57:19 | edx|notebook | he |
11:57:25 | edx|notebook | try.. it might work :) |
11:57:30 | Bagder | let's try that |
11:58:12 | Bagder | good digging |
11:58:44 | * | edx|notebook presses his two thumbs off :) |
11:59:22 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/uisw32.exe |
11:59:35 | * | edx|notebook tests |
11:59:52 | edx|notebook | i am not authorized to view that page lol |
12:00 |
12:00:08 | Bagder | fixed |
12:00:34 | edx|notebook | wont work, still .. |
12:00:38 | edx|notebook | i mean |
12:00:40 | edx|notebook | cant accesss it |
12:01:01 | Bagder | I can |
12:01:11 | edx|notebook | hmm |
12:01:14 | edx|notebook | i cant |
12:01:17 | Bagder | doesn't work though |
12:01:32 | edx|notebook | how do you know? do you have windows? |
12:01:36 | Bagder | yes |
12:01:42 | edx|notebook | hmm damn |
12:01:43 | Bagder | I'm at work |
12:01:56 | edx|notebook | did you compile everything using -mwindows? |
12:02:33 | Bagder | ummm |
12:04:16 | edx|notebook | at least we know it has to work somehow.. |
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12:05:28 | edx | oh.. the other edx has gone :) |
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12:13:18 | edx | bagder: is the console still poping up? |
12:14:37 | * | edx waves |
12:15:46 | adi|home | ewwww.. somethings not right here |
12:15:58 | edx | ? |
12:16:35 | adi|home | i went to go into a sub dir |
12:16:43 | adi|home | and the ui seemed to lock up |
12:16:50 | adi|home | got a double indicator on the screen.. |
12:17:01 | adi|home | almost like it chocked and died mid redraw |
12:17:24 | edx | the win32simulator? |
12:17:30 | adi|home | nope.. recorder |
12:17:36 | edx | ah |
12:17:37 | edx | ok |
12:17:39 | edx | hmm strange |
12:17:50 | edx | i remember getting the smae problem yesterday! |
12:18:05 | adi|home | oooooh. i like the one key status bar removal :) |
12:18:39 | edx | did you take V1.2 or the cvs build? |
12:18:44 | adi|home | hehehe volume up and down |
12:18:45 | * | adi|home drools |
12:18:46 | adi|home | yup |
12:18:57 | adi|home | god i love this |
12:19:20 | adi|home | heheh screen saver :) |
12:19:22 | adi|home | and music... |
12:19:26 | adi|home | god i love code :) |
12:20:37 | adi|home | btw... tetris sideways.. _very_ good idea... |
12:20:57 | edx | heh thanks |
12:21:17 | Zagor | you should have config option: left or right handed |
12:21:18 | * | Zagor hides |
12:21:22 | adi|home | confusing at first.. but makes sense once you get it... |
12:21:24 | adi|home | lol |
12:21:27 | * | adi|home likes that idea |
12:21:52 | adi|home | but then we need to have the function keys dected inside tetris to set that option |
12:22:03 | adi|home | how much can we store settings wise/ |
12:22:12 | adi|home | i mean... before we run outta space? |
12:22:17 | Zagor | 44 bytes in the rtc. a few gigs on the disk :) |
12:22:22 | adi|home | heheh |
12:22:28 | adi|home | how much do we have left on the rtc? |
12:22:48 | Zagor | i don't know |
12:22:48 | adi|home | and can i assume that making use of that space is up for grabs until the bickering starts? |
12:23:04 | * | adi|home wants to store the 'timeout' settings |
12:23:13 | adi|home | for song count or time count |
12:23:59 | adi|home | Zagor.. have i mentioned just how much the projected has helped me remain in love with coding when dealing with all the shit from work? |
12:26:11 | Zagor | no, i don't think you have. but I don't think you are alone in that feeling. |
12:26:24 | Zagor | it's a "breathing hole" |
12:26:42 | * | adi|home nods furiously |
12:26:52 | * | adi|home hurts his neck and heads off to bed |
12:26:55 | adi|home | okay.. things to play with |
12:27:00 | adi|home | -blank screensaver |
12:27:11 | adi|home | -screensaver timeout (to start) as an option |
12:27:14 | adi|home | -address book ;) |
12:27:20 | adi|home | -left handed tetris :) |
12:27:25 | adi|home | -sleep |
12:27:42 | adi|home | -update api docs |
12:28:48 | adi|home | ohh.. found a bug... |
12:28:57 | adi|home | i went into the debug section |
12:29:12 | adi|home | all menus the one for os thread info won't let you out |
12:29:36 | Zagor | try OFF |
12:29:43 | * | adi|home nods |
12:29:48 | adi|home | counter intuitive |
12:29:57 | Zagor | yeah, but it says "keep out" :-) |
12:30:08 | adi|home | hehe yup... |
12:30:14 | adi|home | but we should still be standard :) |
12:30:26 | adi|home | IOports nd os stacks should do <- to get out |
12:30:28 | adi|home | like the rest |
12:30:40 | * | adi|home will fix that later too |
12:30:57 | Zagor | good |
12:31:01 | adi|home | night |
12:32:48 | edx | night |
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12:36:03 | edx | short visit ;) |
12:37:48 | Zagor | *phew* 20 or so feature requests ticked off |
12:38:10 | edx | how many are ther at all? |
12:38:18 | edx | (or how many are left) |
12:39:05 | Zagor | 61 open / 85 total |
12:39:08 | edx | k |
12:41:47 | Zagor | who asked for EX70 in the uk? |
12:42:11 | Zagor | http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005ML3P/ref=ed_felist_1_4/ |
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12:43:29 | edx | avaibility is bad.. |
12:43:46 | edx | Bagder, are you there? |
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12:44:13 | Zagor | edx: there do you see that? |
12:44:26 | edx | read the text lol |
12:44:42 | edx | AvailabilityThis item is usually dispatched within 4-6 weeks. Please note that items sometimes go out of stock with the manufacturers or our suppliers. |
12:44:59 | Zagor | oh, there :-) |
12:45:35 | Zagor | http://www.epinions.com/484991_Sony_MDR_EX70LP_Fontopia_Earbud_Headphones lists a couple of other web shops |
12:46:15 | edx | hm.. I bought a power supply.. 0,8A - you can regulate the voltage it outputs - i have the feeling that it harms my batteries, vcould that be? |
12:46:26 | edx | also, can I charge the batteries using a normal charger? |
12:46:34 | Zagor | yes you can |
12:46:43 | Zagor | why do you think it harms the batteries? |
12:46:43 | edx | ok |
12:46:47 | Hes | For TODO items for 1.3: config saving to disk, on recorders too |
12:46:47 | edx | hmm |
12:46:52 | edx | lifetime is like half an hour or something |
12:46:59 | Hes | if rtc config load fails => read from disk |
12:47:18 | Hes | and flush settings to disk every now and then when the disk is spinning for other stuff |
12:47:22 | edx | i have to doublecheck this but the device didnt really work with the batteries :/ |
12:47:46 | edx | is the negative pole outside or inside the cable btw? |
12:47:55 | Zagor | outside |
12:48:03 | edx | k - at least one thing i did right ;) |
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13:08:08 | Bagder | -mwindows doesn't make it work either |
13:09:53 | LinusN | lamer |
13:10:42 | Bagder | feel free to correct my mistakes, oh you pro ;-) |
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13:14:07 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Bagder " by LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
13:14:10 | * | Bagder bows |
13:14:35 | * | Zagor is browsing ales |
13:14:44 | LinusN | is what? |
13:15:03 | LinusN | ah, yummy |
13:15:21 | LinusN | (can't join you, sorry) |
13:15:26 | Zagor | http://www.systembolaget.se/pris/owa/xdisplay?p_varunr=1617&p_rest=0&p_back=/svenska/varor/prislist/xpogrupp6.htm |
13:15:44 | Bagder | hah |
13:15:53 | Zagor | just *have* to try it |
13:16:00 | Bagder | I want that ;-) |
13:28:08 | Bagder | "Will you be interested in a contract on one of my research projects to work on these issues? If you like to travel, this is an opportunity for coming to Pisa" |
13:28:28 | * | Bagder detects another curl project opportunity coming up |
13:31:22 | matsl | Time to leave. CU next week. |
13:31:28 | Bagder | bye matsl |
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13:38:48 | LinusN | hehe. feels kind of empty after the 1.2 release... |
13:39:14 | Bagder | I await lots of commits ;-) |
13:39:45 | LinusN | more like "phew, now i can rest a while..." |
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13:40:06 | Zagor | Bagder: i want lcd_update_rect() |
13:40:07 | Bagder | yeah, feels good having the 1.2 out |
13:40:15 | Bagder | ok, I fix |
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13:40:26 | Zagor | use widht/height, but round off to nearest row |
13:40:27 | Bagder | will you time me? ;-) |
13:40:45 | * | LinusN pulls out his stop watch |
13:40:52 | Bagder | icode ? |
13:41:00 | LinusN | nah |
13:41:08 | Bagder | ok |
13:41:11 | LinusN | ok, then |
13:41:16 | LinusN | use icode |
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13:41:54 | Bagder | width, height, x and y it must be then? |
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13:42:05 | LinusN | if we run out of IRAM space we can always move the frame buffer to DRAM |
13:43:36 | mbr | Is ist ok to call settings_save() from wps and tree? |
13:44:13 | mbr | When F3 toggles global_settings.statusbar the state should be saved .. |
13:44:17 | Hes | mbr: yes |
13:44:17 | LinusN | not really |
13:44:30 | Hes | Hm? |
13:44:38 | LinusN | on the player it will spin up the disk, i don't like that |
13:44:52 | Hes | We should do the delayed writing... |
13:44:56 | LinusN | yes |
13:45:14 | Bagder | we should mark it as changed to be saved at next spinup |
13:45:15 | Hes | mark the buffer dirty after changes and simply write the block next time after we spin the disk up |
13:45:26 | Bagder | hehe |
13:45:33 | Hes | And also mark it dirty and writeable on the recorders |
13:45:39 | Hes | write to RTC immediately and to disk later |
13:46:11 | LinusN | Bagder: we should release 1.2 on sourceforge |
13:46:31 | Bagder | yes |
13:46:33 | LinusN | the problem is that the disk may never spin up |
13:46:35 | Hes | and freshmeat too? |
13:46:42 | Bagder | and freshmeat |
13:47:04 | Hes | Need to spin it up after a timeout... say, a minute |
13:47:16 | LinusN | yes |
13:47:29 | mbr | so we use the settings_save() to mark the config block as dirty? |
13:47:38 | LinusN | the user has to accept that the settings may not be saved at all times |
13:47:51 | Hes | and on the recorder, settings_save should write to RTC immediately |
13:48:00 | LinusN | mbr: no, we create a settings_dirty() function |
13:48:33 | LinusN | or? |
13:49:05 | mbr | or create a settings_write() and leave settings_save() |
13:49:19 | LinusN | i guess a 'cron' thread is becoming increasingly useful |
13:49:51 | Hes | LinusN: yeah... power stuff could run there too |
13:50:04 | LinusN | and the status bar, and... |
13:50:15 | ripnetuk | does it have to block while the disc is spinning up? cant you tel it to start spinning, and then write it when it has spun up? |
13:50:38 | LinusN | ripnetuk: i guess we can wake it up without blocking, yes |
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13:53:17 | Bagder | LinusN: do you have any lcd docs around? |
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13:53:27 | LinusN | no, why? |
13:53:44 | Bagder | trying to figure out the LCD_CNTL_HIGHCOL and LCD_CNTL_LOWCOL instructions |
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13:54:27 | Bagder | to be able to update only part of an lcd "row" |
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13:55:20 | Bagder | I guess an lcd_update_rec(y, height) is pretty good too |
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13:56:01 | Bagder | hm, no the scroll thread would like to update only parts of a row in the dir browser |
13:56:12 | LinusN | highcol sets the upper 4 bits of the column address, lowcol the lower 4 bits |
13:56:43 | Bagder | cool |
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14:04:26 | Bagder | is update_rect() better used with (x,y, width, hight) or ... |
14:04:33 | Bagder | x1, y1, x2, y2 ? |
14:05:13 | LinusN | i think width, height |
14:05:59 | LinusN | and make sure that you shrink the rectangle if it is out of bounds |
14:06:17 | Bagder | now why would anyone do that? B) |
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14:13:54 | LinusN | "Thanks to all those that are devoting alot of time to make things |
14:13:54 | LinusN | better for us Archos users!" |
14:14:10 | * | LinusN blushes |
14:14:35 | LinusN | (from the ajb6k yahoo group) |
14:17:08 | LinusN | does anybody here have a recorder6 or 10? |
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14:19:21 | dwihno | 1.2 1.2 1.2 1.2! Yay! |
14:19:23 | dwihno | :-D |
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14:20:01 | LinusN | testing... 1.2 ...testing... 1.2 |
14:20:26 | dwihno | :-) |
14:20:57 | Bagder | so, archos is on 1.28 ? we have like 26 releases left to reach them! ;-) |
14:22:37 | Bagder | *done* |
14:22:46 | LinusN | we have much more time on the player, 5.xx |
14:23:00 | Bagder | hehe |
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14:25:32 | elinenbe | I'm back! |
14:25:40 | jedix` | how is the project going anyways? |
14:25:42 | * | Bagder hoorays |
14:25:52 | elinenbe | Does anyone here know where you can buy Volkswagen OEM stuff? |
14:25:56 | Bagder | jedix`: it rocks more than ever ;-) |
14:26:39 | elinenbe | is this the right channel for trading files −− I've got tones of MMF and FFM plus a little F/Animal stuff for trade :) |
14:26:58 | * | Bagder looks at elinenbe |
14:27:15 | dwihno | I got FF :-) |
14:27:22 | dwihno | Farbror Frej |
14:27:24 | dwihno | :-) |
14:27:34 | elinenbe | hehe |
14:28:19 | elinenbe | this is kind of sad: http://www.spectral-imagination.com/shane/homepage/Archos%20JBMM/JBMM%20Wish%20List.htm −− they just come out with the multimedia player and already people are not satisfied. At least there seems to be less bugs then in the players and recorders. |
14:33:58 | elinenbe | what is this Rockbox thing you speak of? |
14:35:30 | RipnetUK | elinenbe - am i understanding u correctly? you want to know what rockbox is? or am i missing some joke? |
14:37:41 | elinenbe | it is a joke. I know what it is. But, I am preparing the channel for questions like this? |
14:39:48 | LinusN | elinenbe: no problems we just do like this: |
14:39:53 | Kick | (#rockbox elinenbe :LinusN) by LinusN!~linus@labb.contactor.se |
14:40:06 | * | Bagder giggles |
14:40:58 | * | LinusN feels the power |
14:41:14 | * | Bagder bows in front of the powerful LinusN |
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14:41:47 | calpefrosch | hi there |
14:41:48 | LinusN | i sense a smell of frog |
14:41:53 | calpefrosch | hehe |
14:41:53 | LinusN | yo |
14:42:03 | Bagder | hi calpefrosch |
14:42:29 | calpefrosch | after a long time of absence I'm back. And did something really stupid |
14:42:44 | LinusN | joined this channel? |
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14:42:53 | Bagder | ran the stock firmware? |
14:43:03 | calpefrosch | I removed 3 files from CVS, I wanted to remove them from my local drive, but ... |
14:43:12 | calpefrosch | ... removed them from CVS |
14:43:19 | calpefrosch | I hope it is not a problem |
14:43:25 | LinusN | what files? |
14:43:29 | calpefrosch | wait |
14:43:45 | Bagder | they're not removed for real, only at your place I guess |
14:43:47 | calpefrosch | cvs server: scheduling `uisw32.vcproj' for removal |
14:43:47 | calpefrosch | cvs server: scheduling `uisw32.suo' for removal |
14:43:47 | calpefrosch | cvs server: scheduling `UI256.bmp' for removal |
14:44:08 | Bagder | add them again |
14:44:23 | Bagder | or just remove everything and re-checkout |
14:44:28 | LinusN | hehe, elinenbe must have been angry... :-) |
14:44:38 | calpefrosch | tnx |
14:45:11 | calpefrosch | congrats to the 1.2 firmware. It is really cool |
14:46:28 | LinusN | calpefrosch: we missed you. where have you been? |
14:46:58 | calpefrosch | hmmm, I couldn't help you so much. |
14:47:23 | RipnetUK | is there any reason the WPS screen doesnt scroll the ID3 info? |
14:47:28 | calpefrosch | and I had no time to learn C, because of much work here at work |
14:47:41 | LinusN | RipnetUK: yes, only one line can scroll at a time |
14:48:04 | Bagder | the scroll thread is a bit limited |
14:48:13 | calpefrosch | But now I wanted to look at the code ... and you see what happend :-) |
14:48:21 | Bagder | haha |
14:48:52 | LinusN | mbr: i don't like the date format. :-) |
14:49:04 | RipnetUK | i see thanks |
14:49:23 | mbr | LinusN: I've waited for that :) |
14:49:31 | mbr | Better MM/DD/YY |
14:49:35 | mbr | ? |
14:49:47 | LinusN | or YYYY-MM-DD |
14:50:06 | * | Bagder awaits ISO 8601 references ;-) |
14:50:11 | LinusN | or even YYYY-MMM-DD |
14:50:21 | mbr | MMM? |
14:50:26 | Bagder | with letters |
14:50:27 | LinusN | "jan", "feb" |
14:50:34 | LinusN | no confusion |
14:50:38 | mbr | Ah! |
14:51:36 | LinusN | mbr: still, great job with the date/time setting!!! |
14:51:54 | LinusN | we have a problem with the menus |
14:51:59 | mbr | OK, I think YYYY-MMM-DD would be best. |
14:52:10 | LinusN | there is no indication whatsoeever that there are more options below the screen |
14:52:27 | Bagder | true |
14:52:32 | LinusN | a scroll bar, maybe? |
14:52:40 | Bagder | scroll bar would make it better |
14:52:57 | Hes | scroll bar, yes... preferably somehow under the cursor to preserve space 8-) |
14:54:08 | Bagder | I think we can waste a few pixels on the left side for a scrollbar |
14:54:17 | LinusN | or the last line could be replaced by a down arrow |
14:54:31 | Bagder | uh |
14:54:39 | Bagder | but if there's only one line? ;-) |
14:54:51 | Bagder | hm, no sorry |
14:54:53 | LinusN | do we have scroll bars with proportionally sized knob? |
14:55:02 | LinusN | we could use that |
14:55:14 | Bagder | I agree |
14:55:18 | Bagder | it would need to have that in fact |
14:55:24 | LinusN | yes |
14:55:41 | LinusN | i would like that in the file browser as well |
14:56:05 | LinusN | (configurable, yex, yes...) |
14:56:25 | Bagder | I think I'd prefer to have it togglable in the dir browser |
14:56:28 | Bagder | like the status bar |
14:57:04 | Bagder | it could go on f3 too, "nothing, bar, scroll, bar + scroll" |
14:57:57 | LinusN | coolers |
14:59:36 | LinusN | i've been thinking about the RTC accuracy |
14:59:49 | LinusN | it may need calibration |
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15:00:19 | LinusN | maybe we can store the time in RTC RAM when we set it |
15:00:30 | LinusN | and adjust when we set it the next time |
15:00:37 | LinusN | adjust=calibrate |
15:04:28 | mbr | Sounds good, i'll look into that this weekend |
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15:07:12 | * | nsauzede says hi all |
15:07:35 | * | calpefrosch says bye bye |
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15:08:22 | LinusN | hi nsauzede |
15:10:07 | Bagder | hey nsauzede |
15:10:08 | nsauzede | linus: are there any bots in all the nicknames connected ? |
15:10:19 | LinusN | logbot is a bot |
15:10:20 | Topic | "it is a 1.2 day today" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
15:10:38 | nsauzede | bagder: yeah ! |
15:10:47 | LinusN | other than that, i don't think so |
15:11:04 | LinusN | logbot is a Dancer! |
15:11:12 | * | Bagder yays |
15:11:17 | * | LinusN points at Bagder |
15:11:39 | nsauzede | bagder: about compiling rockbox-sim under cygwin : |
15:12:18 | nsauzede | indeed, the cygwin gcc is some sort of mingw32 :) |
15:12:40 | nsauzede | but I couldn't compile some runnable sim with it :( |
15:12:52 | nsauzede | (segfault) |
15:15:26 | * | Bagder leaves for coffee |
15:19:56 | nsauzede | is cvs.rockbox down ? |
15:20:24 | LinusN | no |
15:21:57 | LinusN | if you mean the CVS on sourceforge, that is |
15:21:57 | nsauzede | linus: I get :"cvs [login aborted]: connect to cvs.rockbox.sourceforge.net:2401 failed: Attempt to connect timed out without establishing a connection |
15:23:02 | LinusN | it works from here |
15:23:22 | nsauzede | oops.. my fault then ? |
15:26:55 | LinusN | no firewall or anything like that? |
15:28:30 | nsauzede | ahh, it worked, finally... |
15:28:43 | nsauzede | well, I don't know... |
15:28:57 | nsauzede | maybe my ISP was lagging a bit. |
15:29:41 | nsauzede | have a nice day Linus (and everybody :) !! |
15:29:51 | * | nsauzede says bye... |
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15:33:49 | dwihno | If anyone gets mingw32 to compile the simu, please notify me :-) |
15:33:57 | LinusN | mbr: the Code Police is after you! |
15:34:01 | dwihno | :O |
15:34:28 | mbr | UPS! |
15:34:31 | dwihno | Code police - codename Zagor - "You got the right to indent. Every comment you won't make will be held against you!" |
15:34:41 | LinusN | HAHA! |
15:35:58 | mbr | What have i done? |
15:36:29 | LinusN | you shouldn't put the body on the same line as the condition in an 'if' statement |
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15:37:17 | mbr | bad old habit .. sorry |
15:37:33 | LinusN | hi elinenbe_! |
15:37:37 | elinenbe_ | hey there. |
15:37:58 | elinenbe_ | things look to be going good. |
15:38:00 | mbr | Question about time/date setting display |
15:38:04 | mbr | HH:MM:SS |
15:38:06 | mbr | DOW YYYY MMM DD |
15:38:24 | mbr | Is that ok? or do I need dashes? |
15:38:26 | elinenbe_ | LinusN: when do you think repeat will make it's way into the box? |
15:38:37 | mbr | DOW YYYY-MMM-DD |
15:38:40 | LinusN | mbr: looks good to me |
15:38:42 | elinenbe_ | mbr: make the date string configurable :) |
15:38:52 | LinusN | elinenbe_: repeat is there, unconditionally! |
15:39:01 | elinenbe_ | LinusN: aahhh... |
15:39:10 | LinusN | you can't turn it off atm |
15:39:30 | elinenbe_ | was the roadmap updated for 1.2 |
15:39:36 | LinusN | sort of |
15:39:53 | LinusN | we have kind of ignored the roadmap |
15:41:57 | elinenbe_ | persistent settings in 1.3 means saving to disk −− right? |
15:42:01 | LinusN | yes |
15:42:31 | dwihno | LinusN: Since you're the hardware ninja, do you think adding recording stuff (after disk writes) should be a hard task? |
15:42:49 | LinusN | elinenbe_: was it you who made the slider widgets? |
15:42:51 | dwihno | (I don't really care about that, but I'm a bit curious ^_^) |
15:43:04 | LinusN | dwihno: no, i don't think so |
15:43:24 | LinusN | but i haven't thought that much about it lately |
15:44:00 | matp|work | when i plug the power in, the battery icon drops considerably. when i take it out, it jumps back up again. is this correct? |
15:44:15 | elinenbe_ | once there is some sort of config or .ini file, that will e fun! |
15:45:53 | LinusN | matp|work: no, that isn't supposed to be |
15:46:36 | LinusN | i think that has to do with Hes's effort to compensate the battery voltage measurement when charging |
15:46:44 | elinenbe_ | what is the status on the rolo code that was submitted a few days ago, or has that been placed on the backburner? It makes development for me much faster... load rockbox firmware, code, compile, plug in usb, compy over new firmware, load, code, .... |
15:46:48 | elinenbe_ | no rebooting! |
15:47:33 | LinusN | elinenbe_: it currently doesn't work for the recorder |
15:48:01 | LinusN | and we have been busy with the 1.2 release the last couple of days |
15:48:03 | matp|work | LinusN: So it is charging, right? It seems to be charging very quickly. It's gone from 1/2 to 3/4 in about 5 mins!! |
15:48:32 | LinusN | matp|work: that may also have to do with the condition of your batteries |
15:48:35 | elinenbe_ | LinusN: thanks for the update. |
15:48:44 | LinusN | matp|work: player, right? |
15:49:13 | matp|work | LinusN: Recorder |
15:49:18 | LinusN | ok |
15:49:41 | LinusN | watch the battery graph in the debug menu |
15:49:50 | matp|work | what do you mean condition? They are worn out, or they are good? |
15:50:25 | LinusN | one or the other... :-) |
15:50:39 | matp|work | I've got a small spike, the a steep curve |
15:50:56 | matp|work | then |
15:51:42 | matp|work | hmm, now it's fully charged. 10 mins from 1/2 empty. That's good going! |
15:52:00 | Hes | matp|work: the battery level (info menu % and the status bar) does not show anything meaningful while charging |
15:52:33 | Hes | Did it actually stop charging automatically or why do you think it's fully charged? |
15:52:36 | matp|work | Hes: Ahh, ok, how do I tell when it's fully charged? |
15:52:54 | matp|work | Hes, because status bar shows full battery. |
15:53:17 | matp|work | Hes, but I see it's still blinking, so I guess it's still charging |
15:53:19 | LinusN | matp|work: does the power plug symbol blink? |
15:54:14 | Hes | It stops blinking when it's charged |
15:54:18 | matp|work | Hmm, slightly misleading, but the workaround it to look at the blink symbol rather than the battery icon |
15:54:31 | Hes | and also in the debug menu, there's the battery viewer |
15:54:38 | Hes | with three views (up/down toggle) |
15:54:47 | Hes | which shows if it's charging or not... |
15:54:58 | matp|work | gotcha |
15:55:07 | Hes | also the voltage history graph... you will see it drop sharply when the charger is disconnected |
15:55:19 | Hes | need to write an user guide for the charger 8-) |
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15:55:28 | LinusN | hi dazol |
15:55:36 | dazol | 'aloo |
15:55:53 | matp|work | I like the "charge started at 52%". |
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15:56:57 | dazol | rockbox 1.2 is supposed to support relative paths in playlists, right? |
15:57:03 | LinusN | yes |
15:57:21 | dazol | hmmm....ok, just one sec before I comment on it |
15:57:45 | * | LinusN is waiting anxiously |
15:58:37 | dazol | ok, i have a player with archos firmware 5.0.7 |
15:59:01 | LinusN | mbr: i want key repeat in the time setting |
15:59:10 | dazol | when I select a playlist with rockbox 1.2, it hangs at "Playing...10 files" |
15:59:43 | dazol | the hdd light stays pretty much solid red. ive waited almost 1/2 hour for it to start playing, but no go |
15:59:44 | LinusN | tell me about the directory and the playlist |
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16:00:12 | dazol | dir: mp3->1_playlist->zombie.m3u |
16:00:25 | dazol | it has songs from 3 seperate directories in it |
16:00:47 | dazol | ex. song listed in the playlist: /home/daz/archos/mp3/suicidal_tendencies/send_me_your_money.mp3 |
16:00:59 | LinusN | ok so the playlist is /mp3/1_playlist/zombie.m3u |
16:01:07 | dazol | right |
16:01:33 | LinusN | and the entry in the playlist is /home/daz/archos/mp3........ |
16:01:51 | dazol | right |
16:01:57 | LinusN | that can't work |
16:02:02 | matp|work | we don't parse .. do we? |
16:02:02 | dazol | doh |
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16:02:19 | LinusN | there is no /home/daz/archos directory on your player? |
16:02:21 | | Nick Zagor is now known as TheCodePolice (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
16:02:33 | TheCodePolice | nag nag nag |
16:02:38 | dazol | nope, the player starts at mp3 |
16:02:46 | LinusN | there is your problem |
16:03:06 | dazol | so do i have to make the playlists absolute, then? |
16:03:28 | TheCodePolice | dazol: relative means "not starting with /" |
16:03:41 | matp|work | it doesn't understand '..' constructs |
16:03:48 | LinusN | the Rockbox can't possibly know that you want to strip the /home/daz/archos part of the path |
16:03:55 | LinusN | matp|work: it does |
16:03:59 | | Nick TheCodePolice is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
16:04:02 | dazol | TheCodePolice: oh, hmmmm |
16:04:35 | dazol | so if a song entry from say: /home/daz/archos/mp3/suicidal_tendencies/send_me_your_money.mp3 |
16:04:40 | matp|work | LinusN: good, it's been a while since I looked at the code ;) |
16:04:46 | dazol | to /mp3/suicidal_tendencies/send_me_your_money.mp3 |
16:04:50 | dazol | it should dwork? |
16:04:53 | Zagor | yes |
16:05:02 | dazol | ok, let me try that. |
16:05:17 | LinusN | dazol: or you can put this in your playlist: ../../suicidal... |
16:05:40 | LinusN | sorry, ../suicidal... |
16:07:12 | LinusN | Zagor: do you have a good solution to the partition type problem? |
16:07:28 | dazol | that worked (removing the /home/daz/archos part |
16:07:34 | Bagder | can't we probe for a fat32 fs somehow? |
16:07:36 | dazol | thank you much |
16:07:37 | LinusN | dazol: great! |
16:07:44 | LinusN | Bagder: sure |
16:07:48 | Zagor | my fix worked for ah_ so we should probably try that and see if any other problems occur |
16:08:07 | LinusN | Zagor: commit it |
16:08:16 | LinusN | I want to help Remo |
16:08:19 | Zagor | that's my fix. just trying fat_mount() on every partition until one returns ok |
16:08:30 | Bagder | aha, nice ;-) |
16:08:38 | dazol | are there any plans to implement that? (parsing anything before /mp3 out of the playlist) ? |
16:08:50 | Zagor | dazol: how would we know what to remove? |
16:08:51 | LinusN | dazol: how would that work? |
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16:09:10 | mbr | Zargor: shall I commit the reindented cld.c code? |
16:09:15 | Bagder | we could do a better error message though |
16:09:28 | Zagor | mbr: please do |
16:09:32 | dazol | well, read the path and anything before /mp3 is stripped? iim assuming thats how archos did it |
16:09:48 | Zagor | dazol: my files are stored in /cd |
16:09:59 | LinusN | dazol: i don't have a directory called mp3 on my box |
16:10:03 | dazol | Zagor: on the archos? |
16:10:05 | Bagder | I don't have 'mp3' in my path either |
16:10:28 | Zagor | dazol: no, on my computer. on the archos they are in /Pop /Rock etc. |
16:10:58 | Zagor | why don't you make real playlists instead? |
16:11:02 | LinusN | rockbox doesn't care at all what your directories are called |
16:11:08 | dazol | hmmm.... |
16:11:27 | LinusN | Zagor: define "real playlist" :-) |
16:11:46 | Zagor | "correct" then |
16:11:50 | dazol | Zagor: well, since I know its an "issue" for v 1.2 (imho) ill have to do that now :) |
16:12:03 | LinusN | it's not a issue |
16:12:06 | dazol | however, the archos firmware manages to do it :) |
16:12:07 | LinusN | it's a fact of life |
16:12:10 | Bagder | a suggestion! we add some good hints on the site on how to create playlists easily |
16:12:19 | Zagor | Bagder: good idea |
16:12:21 | Bagder | like on windows/linux |
16:12:43 | dazol | i like the rockbox version better though. |
16:12:53 | LinusN | dazol: funnily enough, you are the first who have mentioned this |
16:13:06 | Bagder | all the talk about playlists on the mailing list shows that people do have a problem with them |
16:13:16 | LinusN | i didn't know that archos hada predefined 'mp3' directory |
16:13:16 | dazol | LinusN: wow. that is interesting... |
16:13:29 | dazol | it has always been there on mine |
16:13:43 | LinusN | now i remember |
16:13:45 | matp|work | Do I *have* to reload a playlist just to toggle shuffle ? |
16:13:46 | Bagder | I think there was one on mine too |
16:13:52 | LinusN | i deleted that dir the first day |
16:13:53 | Bagder | matp|work: no |
16:14:03 | dazol | the thing is, I can create a playlist with xmms with paths like "/home/daz/mp3/dir/song" |
16:14:10 | Bagder | LinusN: me too ;-) |
16:14:11 | matp|work | Me too :) Mine had some dodgy french songs in it! |
16:14:28 | Bagder | dazol: use find! ;-) |
16:14:30 | dazol | stick that in my 1_playlist directory on the archos, and the archos firmware had no problem |
16:14:51 | dazol | Badger: for what? |
16:14:52 | matp|work | Bagder: It's in the release notes |
16:14:58 | Bagder | find . -name "*mp3" > playlist.m3u |
16:15:07 | Bagder | Zagor: fix release notes! ;-) |
16:15:33 | dazol | :) now that I know how rockbox needs it playlists, I wont have a problem creating them :) |
16:15:42 | LinusN | Bagder: and the FAQ too |
16:15:53 | Bagder | is that in the faq? |
16:16:01 | LinusN | no, it should be there |
16:16:01 | dazol | s/\/home\/daz//g :) |
16:16:18 | Bagder | dazol: right ;-) |
16:16:26 | Bagder | sed is your friend |
16:16:52 | mbr | have to leave, bye! |
16:16:54 | dazol | it just wasnt mentioned anywhere so I didnt know where the problem was |
16:17:00 | LinusN | bye mbr! |
16:17:04 | matp|work | I think it's odd behaviour that when you turn shuffle OFF, it plays from the beginning of the playlist, not from the current directory |
16:17:05 | Bagder | bye mbr |
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16:17:37 | Bagder | current "directory" ? |
16:17:49 | matp|work | I thought mecraw posted a patch so that it played from the current directory? Did no-one like it? |
16:18:16 | Zagor | what's wrong in the release notes? |
16:18:22 | LinusN | why current directory? |
16:18:28 | Bagder | Zagor: you don't have to reload to toggle shuffle |
16:18:47 | Zagor | ah |
16:18:52 | matp|work | I'm listening to random. A song comes on by an artist I like. I want to listen to the rest of the album by that artist |
16:19:01 | Bagder | aha |
16:19:07 | Bagder | right |
16:19:10 | Zagor | fixed |
16:19:11 | Bagder | I remember now |
16:19:22 | matp|work | I toggle shuffle, it plays the rest of the album. I toggle again, and it goes back to random |
16:19:45 | Bagder | matp|work: I missed that patch when it was posted, applied another patch that fixed the sort/shuffle but didn't fix the play-the-same-song thing |
16:20:25 | Bagder | so this is not fixed yet |
16:20:34 | Bagder | but I agree with you, it should be made |
16:20:37 | matp|work | Personally, I think it's pretty useful. |
16:20:41 | Bagder | me too |
16:21:14 | Zagor | yellow build |
16:21:23 | LinusN | Bagder: the screen dumps in the online manual are quite old, or what? |
16:21:42 | Bagder | LinusN: yes they are |
16:21:49 | Zagor | some are 1.2. which ones are old? |
16:22:05 | Bagder | but they're still functional |
16:22:05 | LinusN | the main menu is missing the Debug choice |
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16:22:19 | LinusN | i guess that is a simulator issue |
16:22:19 | Zagor | yeah, since the simulator doesn't have that.. |
16:22:21 | Bagder | I think that isn't present in the simulator |
16:22:39 | LinusN | the sound setting are old |
16:22:45 | Zagor | same thing |
16:22:48 | Bagder | LinusN: stop whining, update ;-) |
16:23:07 | Zagor | it's not old, it's simulator |
16:23:07 | Bagder | it is gonna be a hard job to keep those up-to-date |
16:23:15 | LinusN | maybe a screen dump feature on the target? |
16:23:23 | Zagor | good idea |
16:23:30 | LinusN | Bagder: no, we only update them at releases |
16:23:33 | Bagder | yeah... without file save? ;-) |
16:23:42 | RipnetUK | Have any plans been made to enable scrolling on all lines? surely we just need an array[0..7] of scrollinfo, and to iterate through them each time we update. Each may need a boolean enabled flag. Or does someone else have another idea in mind? |
16:23:47 | LinusN | Bagder: Zagor will fix that in no time |
16:23:49 | LinusN | :-) |
16:23:51 | Bagder | hahaha |
16:24:05 | Zagor | :) |
16:24:07 | Bagder | RipnetUK: we need something like that, yes |
16:24:15 | Bagder | RipnetUK: I want smooth scrolling enabled too |
16:24:29 | matp|work | Also, I want a shortcut toggle shuffle button |
16:24:43 | matp|work | Multiscroll will rule. |
16:24:48 | RipnetUK | yeah, f2 for shuffle on/off would rock |
16:25:02 | LinusN | matp|work: post featuree requests on sourceforge |
16:25:26 | LinusN | it's hard to remember everything |
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16:26:47 | LinusN | we should probably enable the disk writes on Player soon |
16:26:55 | Bagder | yes |
16:27:11 | Bagder | would rock |
16:27:18 | Bagder | :-) |
16:27:44 | LinusN | otherwise we will never know how good it works |
16:30:35 | LinusN | it's time to go home |
16:30:39 | LinusN | bye all! |
16:30:40 | matp|work | done |
16:30:44 | matp|work | by linus |
16:30:47 | LinusN | matp|work: saw it |
16:30:48 | Bagder | bye LinusN |
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16:34:06 | Bagder | I'm off too, friday is early day! |
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16:35:34 | Bagder | hey Zagor, you did notice that I added that update_rect(), right? |
16:35:58 | Bagder | I'm off |
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16:41:06 | datazone-work | anyone got a chance to review the archos multimedia yet? |
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16:42:16 | jedix` | 28.8h in today? |
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16:48:25 | Hadaka | can you buy the multimedia already? |
16:50:47 | Hadaka | whoaa, you can in the US, not in europe |
16:51:00 | Hadaka | oh, pre-order ship date august 12 |
16:51:12 | Hadaka | 400 dollars |
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16:53:10 | datazone-work | i figured someone somewhere would have a review by now, but nope |
16:53:27 | datazone-work | and i need it since my jukebox died yesterday, and its no longer under warrenty |
16:56:42 | matp|work | how long did it last? |
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17:22:08 | Zagor | datazone-work: don't expect rockbox to run on the Multimedia anytime soon. It's a whole different architecture. |
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17:35:02 | datazone-work | matp|work: about a year and a half |
17:35:09 | datazone-work | Zagor: i didnt expect it to |
17:39:44 | freshmaker|coffe | datazone-work: in germany we now have full 2 year warranty enforced by law |
17:40:25 | freshmaker|coffe | except wearing parts, of course |
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17:53:16 | datazone-work | cool tomshardware has a review up |
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19:35:35 | RipnetUK | is something up with th mailing list? ive tried 3 times to post my multi-line scroll patch, and it doesnt seem to be coming back from the list? |
19:37:28 | RipnetUK | ah ha seems to be ok now |
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20:24:56 | MeRWiN | wow, that's a lot of commits and e-mails :) |
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21:06:42 | MeRWiN | anyone here? |
21:07:14 | webmind | yes |
21:07:16 | webmind | well |
21:07:18 | webmind | not much |
21:07:23 | webmind | but someone :) |
21:08:26 | MeRWiN | do you have cvs write access? |
21:10:20 | webmind | nope |
21:10:29 | MeRWiN | k |
21:10:30 | MeRWiN | :) |
21:33:34 | MeRWiN | It's a playschool My First CVS Update :P |
21:34:06 | webmind | hm k |
21:34:12 | webmind | never used cvs sofar :) |
21:34:35 | MeRWiN | It's fun once you get used to it :) |
21:34:53 | webmind | hm k |
21:36:31 | Zagor|away | who is markus brown? you've introduced warnings in the sim build. please fix! |
21:37:20 | MeRWiN | Zagor|away: i noticed that too |
21:38:04 | MeRWiN | Zagor|away: at first I thought I did it :) |
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