00:01:05 | adi|home | hey.. zag.. |
00:01:17 | adi|home | i left that dosfsck running for like 8 hrs |
00:01:24 | Zagor | haha |
00:01:26 | adi|home | and its not done.. should i consider it dead :) |
00:01:38 | Zagor | how big disk do you have? |
00:01:43 | adi|home | well 409mins |
00:01:44 | adi|home | 20 gig |
00:02:23 | Zagor | sounds like a long time, yeah... |
00:04:47 | Lear | Zagor: Ok, patch zent. :) |
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00:05:41 | Lear | Time for bed soon, methinks - even if I'm free tomorrow. Yay! ;) |
00:05:57 | Zagor | good job, and good night! |
00:06:19 | elinenbe | Zagor: I threw out that idea on the mailing list... the bmp thing |
00:06:22 | freshmaker | my patch is on it's way, too |
00:06:49 | freshmaker | and don't compile with '-Os' −− it will crash immediately |
00:06:49 | Zagor | elinenbe: oh you evil thing :) |
00:06:59 | Zagor | freshmaker: hehe |
00:08:16 | freshmaker | luckily the usb-thing of the original firmware is available even when the HDD firmware doesn't work :-) |
00:08:36 | Zagor | yup. that has saved me countless times, as you may imagine :-) |
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00:10:42 | freshmaker | why is default bass and treble 6dB? what is flat? 6dB or 0dB? |
00:10:49 | Zagor | 0 |
00:11:04 | Zagor | default is boosted because the players are so weak |
00:11:47 | freshmaker | ah. 6dB bass are faar too much with my Porta Pro ;-) |
00:12:10 | Zagor | hehe |
00:13:51 | freshmaker | does anyone work oh the balance setting, I mean it's in % |
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00:14:13 | Zagor | it was the simplest to start with |
00:16:22 | freshmaker | should be something like L100 ... L50 ... 0 ... 50R ... 100R |
00:16:43 | Zagor | yeah, but that would require a whole new set_* function. so we started simple. |
00:21:59 | freshmaker | what about setting default bass and treble to 0dB on -DARCHOS_RECORDER |
00:23:34 | Zagor | maybe |
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01:03:28 | dwihno | PS: Don't compile with -Os −− it will crash! :-) |
01:03:31 | dwihno | hehe |
01:04:00 | elinenbe | I like that... but I also like the games :( |
01:04:02 | elinenbe | :) |
01:04:09 | elinenbe | I meant the smiley not the frowny |
01:04:30 | dwihno | Well, the games are cool |
01:04:52 | dwihno | But looking in the crystal ball, I see the games are loadable modules in the future |
01:04:56 | elinenbe | that was my major contribution... sokoban |
01:05:08 | Zagor | but then you can't listen to music while playing games |
01:05:22 | Zagor | my crystal ball shows a rolo and different custom builds |
01:05:36 | elinenbe | my custom build will be all games <grin> |
01:05:41 | Zagor | :) |
01:05:58 | freshmaker | then we can spend that 25k for the module loader :-) |
01:06:01 | dwihno | Zagor: my crystal ball is using ballbox, yours is using the stock firmware ;) |
01:07:00 | freshmaker | an eDonkey client. what about that? but how to connect the network... |
01:10:20 | PsycoXul | Zagor: are plugins not possible? |
01:10:33 | Zagor | PsycoXul: possible, but hardly worth it |
01:10:39 | PsycoXul | i see |
01:10:45 | Zagor | it will take huge amounts of code to support |
01:12:25 | elinenbe | stop talking and show me the code! :-D |
01:16:04 | freshmaker | how fast can you update the fullscreen LCD (recorder) using 8bit aligned transfers? |
01:18:25 | freshmaker | simply write into the frame buffer (lcd_framebuffer) and there it is? |
01:19:32 | Zagor | almost 50fps |
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01:22:29 | freshmaker | i think it is possible to display pre-rendered and runlength encoded movies in real time... i'll do some research |
01:22:37 | Zagor | haha |
01:22:59 | elinenbe | check this out on the archos multimedia... |
01:23:02 | Zagor | it should be |
01:23:11 | elinenbe | The user has the option to have the bookmark (resume) function either |
01:23:11 | elinenbe | on or off. If the feature is turned on, there are two possible |
01:23:11 | elinenbe | outcomes: |
01:23:19 | elinenbe | 1. Press STOP anywhere during a track and power the unit off. When |
01:23:19 | elinenbe | the unit is turned back on and PLAY is pressed, the player begins at |
01:23:19 | elinenbe | the BEGINNING of the last track that was being played. |
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01:23:19 | elinenbe | 2. Press PAUSE, then STOP, anywhere during a track and power the unit |
01:23:19 | elinenbe | off. When the unit is turned back on and PLAY is pressed, the player |
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01:23:19 | elinenbe | begins at the AT THE EXACT SPOT where it was last playing. (But you |
01:23:21 | elinenbe | must remember to press PAUSE before STOP in order for this function |
01:23:23 | elinenbe | to work.) |
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01:23:54 | elinenbe | because turning off the Archos is a quick kill, the pause idea is pretty nice... |
01:24:16 | elinenbe | Pause will write the current location to disk. |
01:24:27 | freshmaker | nice feature |
01:24:31 | Zagor | could work, yeah |
01:25:22 | freshmaker | for given values of "AT THE EXACT SPOT", of course. |
01:25:40 | freshmaker | -> the same mp3 frame |
01:26:10 | Zagor | it's a lot easier finding the position when you're paused than during playback |
01:26:33 | elinenbe | this is a wonderful idea. |
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01:26:50 | MeRWiN | adi|home: you around? |
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01:38:51 | elinenbe | ff/rw works VERY nicely here... |
01:55:12 | BoD[] | what does the command in topic do ? |
01:55:41 | Zagor | print the average filename length of your mp3 files :-) |
01:57:14 | BoD[] | wow :) |
01:57:22 | BoD[] | what is the use of that ?! |
01:59:57 | Zagor | statistics, so we get a feeling how much memory we need for things |
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02:01:38 | elinenbe | My average lenght is 87 characters! I use artist - album - track no - song (remix) - ripdate, albumdate - [kbps,hz] - {extra info}.mp3 |
02:01:58 | Zagor | wow! we got below 40 in our collections |
02:02:23 | BoD[] | oh ok :) |
02:02:26 | Zagor | I guess you can't wait for filename parsing :-) |
02:02:45 | elinenbe | Zagor: I am just kidding... you are too gullible. |
02:03:00 | Zagor | oh... it's late :-) |
02:03:05 | BoD[] | I always use artist/album/tracknumber - Song Name.mp3 |
02:11:47 | elinenbe | Bod[]: I use the same. |
02:12:02 | elinenbe | Zagor: what are you working on that is keeping you up past 2am? |
02:12:12 | elinenbe | Zagor: anything exciting? |
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02:54:26 | BoD[] | bye |
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06:58:23 | Zagor | bloody weather |
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07:06:59 | PsycoXul | holding down menu and changing volume also skips tracks |
07:09:43 | Zagor | yeah, lear wrote a patch for that last night. |
07:10:33 | PsycoXul | and my FF/Rewind speed setting's not getting saved |
07:10:46 | Zagor | nag nag nag :-) |
07:10:57 | matsl | Zagor: oops. Magnus supplied a patch for that as well. I was just going to apply it to CVS |
07:11:11 | Zagor | matsl: wait a bit |
07:11:21 | matsl | No problem. |
07:11:41 | Zagor | (also: magnus is lear :) |
07:12:01 | matsl | Zagor: Since your on the air I can jump back to my simulator icons. |
07:12:12 | Zagor | matsl: ok, it's ok to apply. it wasn't that one I wanted to make changes to |
07:12:39 | matsl | Zagor: OK. I'll apply it then. |
07:12:42 | Zagor | do si |
07:12:43 | Zagor | o |
07:18:35 | matsl | Zagor: The some wps-screens doesn't look good with FF |
07:18:50 | Zagor | why not? |
07:19:59 | matsl | the second line displayes both FF-time and other information. Its blinking and unreadable while FF. |
07:20:18 | Zagor | what other info? is it scrolling? |
07:20:30 | matsl | w8 |
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07:22:41 | Zagor | hey linus |
07:22:51 | LinusN | awakw already? |
07:23:20 | matsl | Hi LinusN! |
07:23:23 | LinusN | hi |
07:23:36 | matsl | I started. 5:30! to hot to sleep! |
07:23:39 | Zagor | yeah. too hot to sleep :( |
07:23:51 | LinusN | i guess my key-up filter broke a whole lot :-) |
07:23:59 | Zagor | yup :) |
07:24:11 | matsl | Zagor: Forget about my comment. The patch fixed that too! |
07:24:19 | Zagor | matsl: ok, nice |
07:24:21 | LinusN | i wish we could do better with the key handling somehow |
07:24:31 | LinusN | it's messy |
07:24:41 | Zagor | yes |
07:25:31 | LinusN | Zagor: have you looked into the loadable font crash? |
07:25:48 | Zagor | not yet. i'm working on resume. |
07:26:44 | matsl | How you feel about changeing the wps-id3 screen to scroll the id3 info on the first line. |
07:27:03 | matsl | Would make more inline with FF |
07:27:05 | Zagor | and just time on the second? |
07:27:10 | matsl | Jupp! |
07:27:29 | Zagor | sounds good |
07:27:42 | LinusN | Zagor: how do you plan on saving resume info? And when? |
07:27:44 | matsl | My suggestion. Song - Artist - Album. |
07:28:13 | Zagor | LinusN: i'm expanding the config block to a whole sector, saving the first 44 bytes in rtc and whe whole block on disk |
07:28:31 | LinusN | and when will that be saved? |
07:28:38 | Zagor | when settings are saved |
07:28:58 | Zagor | and flushed when you press pause |
07:29:08 | Zagor | (elinenbe's idea) |
07:36:10 | Hes | Morning |
07:36:13 | Hes | Zagor: sounds good |
07:37:08 | matsl | Zagor: about the wps-id3 screen. How big buffer should I use the combined id3-info ... |
07:37:12 | Zagor | it's about 80% done, i'm just having some silly bugs left |
07:37:30 | matsl | I don't find any sizes for the fields in the id3-info. |
07:38:00 | Zagor | sizes? |
07:38:28 | matsl | maximum size for artist, album and song. |
07:38:38 | PsycoXul | speaking of id3, it seems to only be showing the v1 tag on this song... |
07:41:08 | Zagor | PsycoXul: put it up somewhere so we can check |
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07:45:47 | LinusN | Zagor: we can also save resume info when the disk spins up to read mp3 data, just to be safe |
07:46:26 | LinusN | in addition to saving on PAUSE |
07:46:31 | Zagor | it does. since it's saved in the settings block, it uses the delayed write. |
07:46:39 | LinusN | no, i mean every time |
07:46:44 | Zagor | me too |
07:46:47 | LinusN | ok |
07:47:06 | LinusN | great |
07:47:07 | Zagor | (since the offset has changed every time, the block is different and thus gets saved) |
07:47:29 | LinusN | we will be heroes when mid-song resume is implemented |
07:47:29 | Zagor | only I'm having a problem getting the offset updated, for some odd reason... |
07:47:35 | Zagor | yeah :-) |
07:47:40 | LinusN | Zagor: SHOW ME THE CODE! |
07:47:42 | LinusN | :-) |
07:47:45 | Zagor | haha |
07:47:55 | LinusN | seriously, mail it to me |
07:48:01 | matsl | resume? How detailed will the resume be. On the right beat? I'd prefer starting the song again. |
07:48:04 | LinusN | and i can see if i can find the bug |
07:48:11 | Zagor | ok |
07:48:18 | LinusN | matsl: what do you mean? |
07:48:34 | Zagor | matsl: that will have to be an option, then |
07:49:09 | Zagor | currently i'm saving the exact position (when pressing pause) or last dma buffer otherwise |
07:49:23 | LinusN | perfect |
07:49:35 | matsl | LinusN: I mean that I'd like the song I'm listening to when I turn the unit off to start from the beginning again when I turn it on. |
07:49:38 | LinusN | at last i can start listening to those audio books |
07:50:43 | LinusN | matsl: i agree that starting the song from the beginning is sometimes good |
07:51:04 | LinusN | but why must the mid-song resume be exact? |
07:51:31 | Zagor | because people want it that way, I guess |
07:51:54 | LinusN | of course we should make it as exact as possible |
07:52:06 | LinusN | maybe i read too much into matsl:s question |
07:52:35 | matsl | Ok. I thought we didn't need it to be that exact but if it can. Why not. |
07:52:50 | LinusN | i interpreted it as if he meant that the resume would better start from the beginning if it wasn't exact |
07:53:19 | LinusN | never mind |
07:53:24 | Zagor | on players, it will not be very exact if you hold STOP while playing. on recorders, that will trigger an RTC save and thus be very exact |
07:53:28 | matsl | No. I meant that I probably allways want it that way. I'd say I need an option. |
07:53:51 | LinusN | matsl: most definitely |
07:54:19 | LinusN | Zagor: so pressing PAUSE on the player would spin up the disk? |
07:54:26 | Zagor | yes |
07:54:31 | LinusN | fair enough |
07:54:36 | Zagor | if exact resume is turned on |
07:55:18 | matsl | resume (exact, beginning) |
07:55:28 | Zagor | yup |
07:55:29 | LinusN | so the options would be "OFF", "Track", "Mid-track", "Exact" |
07:55:47 | Zagor | no. off, track, mid-track |
07:56:02 | LinusN | ok |
07:56:08 | LinusN | coooooooool! |
07:56:09 | Zagor | mid-track and exact are the same. it just gets more exact if you press PAUSE before shutting it off |
07:56:19 | LinusN | send me the code! |
07:56:33 | Zagor | i'm writing a little explanation in the mail :-) |
07:56:40 | matsl | LinusN: can you help me out on a question about bmp.c? |
07:56:46 | LinusN | a bad excuse? |
07:56:51 | LinusN | matsl: maybe |
07:57:05 | Zagor | LinusN: no, just helping you grasp it faster. it's a big patch. |
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07:58:24 | LinusN | matsl: what is your question? |
07:59:40 | MeRWiN | heya Linus |
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07:59:49 | LinusN | yo |
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08:00:21 | adi|home | thats it... |
08:00:26 | adi|home | im going to either kill someone |
08:00:36 | adi|home | or chuck my machine out a window |
08:00:46 | adi|home | and i havn't decided which yet |
08:00:55 | MeRWiN | adi|home: kill someone. Don't hurt the machine |
08:01:05 | adi|home | god damnit |
08:01:12 | adi|home | first i get drive errors on my archos... |
08:01:20 | adi|home | then i get hd register errors |
08:01:29 | adi|home | i believe those are from low battery.. |
08:01:36 | adi|home | but just in case i wan'ted to mount it and look |
08:01:39 | adi|home | but NOOOOOOOOO |
08:01:55 | adi|home | mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device |
08:01:59 | adi|home | GRRRRRRR |
08:02:09 | adi|home | this has happened before.. but i don't remember how i fixed it |
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08:02:24 | Zagor | morning bro! |
08:02:28 | Bagder | morning |
08:02:36 | Bagder | Zagor: you at home today? |
08:02:41 | Zagor | yup |
08:03:00 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
08:03:00 | * | adi|home blames his problems on Bagder |
08:03:10 | Bagder | me too, you think its time to go over to Siemens and have an indian lunch ? |
08:03:31 | Zagor | not a bad idea |
08:03:32 | LinusN | good idea! |
08:03:37 | LinusN | 11:30? |
08:03:41 | Zagor | ok |
08:03:43 | Bagder | 11:30 at the gates |
08:03:45 | adi|home | so anyone have any suggestions on wtf im doing wrong? |
08:04:08 | LinusN | adi|home: what does /var/log/messages say? |
08:04:14 | aakil | adi|home: I wonder if that would be the error you see when the HD is locked |
08:05:30 | adi|home | it seems to find the usb |
08:05:37 | adi|home | i rebooted, if usb plugged in.. |
08:05:41 | adi|home | and it found the device |
08:05:49 | adi|home | Aug 16 01:56:36 truman kernel: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/2, assigned device number 2 |
08:06:30 | MeRWiN | adi|home: 'puter problems? |
08:06:34 | adi|home | nods |
08:07:26 | * | adi|home is way to frustrated to deal with this anymore |
08:07:52 | * | MeRWiN left his laptop in the hotel room |
08:07:54 | MeRWiN | whoops |
08:08:07 | MeRWiN | now /me is 3000 miles away and waiting for his laptop to join him |
08:08:48 | LinusN | adi|home: and usb-storage? |
08:08:55 | LinusN | is it loaded? |
08:09:25 | LinusN | or do you have a defunct usb-storage-X process? |
08:10:01 | adi|home | wel.. i don't see ay usb-storage processes running |
08:10:09 | LinusN | lsmod? |
08:10:28 | LinusN | you do have usb-storage as a module? |
08:10:32 | adi|home | nope, not loaded..but i do'nt have it as a module if i remember correctly... |
08:10:57 | Zagor | what does /proc/scsi/scsi say? |
08:11:06 | Zagor | contain |
08:11:27 | adi|home | Attached devices: |
08:11:27 | adi|home | Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 |
08:11:27 | adi|home | Vendor: Model: Rev: |
08:11:27 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK adi|home |
08:11:27 | adi|home | Type: <NULL> ANSI SCSI revision: ffffffff |
08:11:37 | Zagor | boo |
08:11:42 | adi|home | ? |
08:11:45 | Bagder | ugh |
08:12:04 | Zagor | it means usb-storage is loaded, alright, but the device init failed |
08:12:36 | Zagor | try unplugging the reconnecting the archos a few times. sometimes it works better the second or third time. |
08:13:03 | adi|home | interesting |
08:13:09 | adi|home | if the battery is low on archos |
08:13:10 | MeRWiN | Zagor: Would you mind if I started up a USA site mirror? Not exactly sure how to do it though. |
08:13:17 | adi|home | and you try and start.. you can get register errors |
08:13:26 | adi|home | i charged for a bit.. and now rockbox loads agin.. |
08:13:27 | Zagor | MeRWiN: why? we're not exactly swamped. |
08:13:33 | LinusN | what are register errors? |
08:13:43 | MeRWiN | Anyone here take care of the battery stuff on the player? |
08:13:46 | adi|home | you get 'HD Register Error' |
08:13:47 | Zagor | MeRWiN: I think it's too much hassle keeping it up-to-date. we have lots of local scripts here. |
08:13:53 | adi|home | and a dump of the registers ont he screen |
08:13:55 | LinusN | MeRWiN: having battery problems? |
08:13:59 | adi|home | when it trys to load the firmware... |
08:14:09 | adi|home | but its only when i think the batteries are _way_ lowe |
08:14:17 | Bagder | Zagor: the mirror would then only mirror the static things that are in CVS imho |
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08:14:37 | Zagor | Bagder: yeah, but we already have that kind of "boring" mirror :-) |
08:14:38 | Bagder | and the scripts that can put in cvs |
08:14:41 | MeRWiN | LinusN: well, I have noticed lately that the battery percentage is 100% for about an hour on my player :) I think we may have the max voltage off |
08:14:47 | LinusN | adi|home: ok, that sounds like low voltage to me |
08:15:07 | Zagor | http://rockbox.sourceforge.net/rockbox/ |
08:15:08 | LinusN | MeRWiN: be happy about that |
08:15:21 | MeRWiN | LinusN: it would be nice if it were more accurate though ;) |
08:15:38 | LinusN | well, that depends on the condition of the batteries |
08:15:55 | adi|home | Zagor i get .css missing error |
08:16:05 | LinusN | and how can you be accurate with 4 lousy LCD icons? |
08:16:09 | Zagor | yes. it's not really meant to be used. |
08:16:21 | MeRWiN | LinusN: the batteries that I've been using for about 4 months... I mean the Battery Info... that goes from 0% to 100% |
08:16:23 | LinusN | or is it 3? |
08:16:29 | MeRWiN | it stays at 100% for about an hour |
08:16:52 | Zagor | MeRWiN: different batteries have different peak voltage |
08:17:03 | LinusN | what sayeth the debug menu (ports)? |
08:17:05 | Zagor | and there is no way to know which has what peak |
08:17:23 | MeRWiN | Zagor: these are the standard batteries that come with the player though. Shouldn't we tailor it to them? |
08:17:36 | Zagor | yeah, maybe |
08:17:41 | MeRWiN | LinusN: not sure at the moment. It's about 70% right now |
08:18:26 | LinusN | we have deliberately set a wide margin for the FULL threshold |
08:18:50 | LinusN | to be on the safe side |
08:19:01 | MeRWiN | ahh |
08:19:26 | LinusN | otherwise people will complain on the battery level being too low :-) |
08:19:35 | Zagor | LinusN: can you run my patch on your debug recorder? I'd like to know why it doesn't work. |
08:19:37 | MeRWiN | It would be cool if someone wrote a Calibrate function for the debug menu... |
08:19:55 | PsycoXul | ok |
08:20:02 | Zagor | MeRWiN: can't be done. peak and bottom cannot be found out. |
08:20:02 | PsycoXul | http://psyco.yi.org:8042/ |
08:20:14 | PsycoXul | about the id3 thing |
08:20:19 | PsycoXul | the track's there |
08:20:26 | Zagor | PsycoXul: ok, thanks |
08:20:51 | MeRWiN | Zagor: I mean, at least be able to calibrate it to the top end by fully charging it and setting it then. |
08:21:16 | Zagor | ah, right |
08:21:41 | Bagder | uh, nasty security flaw in X-chat, upgrade time |
08:21:43 | MeRWiN | just a thought |
08:21:55 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
08:21:55 | * | MeRWiN is going to watch John Edwards on TV now :-) |
08:21:59 | Zagor | charging and battery issues will probably take up a good chunk of the support mails... |
08:22:03 | | Nick MeRWiN is now known as MeRWiN|TV (~merwin@12.242.185.10) |
08:22:05 | MeRWiN|TV | Zagor: yup |
08:22:27 | Zagor | damn, PsycoXul. get a decent connection! ;) |
08:22:42 | PsycoXul | heh |
08:24:11 | Zagor | Bagder: which is the vuln version? |
08:24:51 | Bagder | 1.8.9 and all previous versions |
08:25:10 | Zagor | ok |
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08:26:55 | Bagder | new and shiny version |
08:27:58 | PsycoXul | disk: NULL |
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08:28:42 | Zagor | ta-daa |
08:29:03 | Zagor | thanks for the heads-up, bagder |
08:29:16 | Bagder | bugtraq is good reading at times ;-) |
08:30:08 | Zagor | heh, yeah. it's not like we get any mail otherwise... :) |
08:30:22 | Bagder | yes, you need to keep the feed up :-) |
08:30:30 | Bagder | *nothing* compares to the svn list anyway |
08:30:48 | Bagder | 2500+ mails monthly |
08:31:20 | Zagor | whoa |
08:31:39 | Hes | svn? |
08:31:43 | Hes | vuln-dev? |
08:31:43 | Bagder | subversion |
08:32:07 | Hadaka | and it's all mail you want to read on svn list |
08:32:11 | Hadaka | unlike many other lists |
08:32:13 | Zagor | linux-kernel is actually worse. last *week* had 1794 mails... |
08:32:20 | Bagder | right |
08:32:29 | Bagder | I don't want to compare to that one |
08:32:39 | Bagder | it just has to be terrible |
08:32:53 | Zagor | i'm amazed anyone can read it, and get anything out of it |
08:32:59 | Zagor | (and get anything else done!) |
08:33:00 | Hadaka | well linux-kernel has a lot of crap and you can skip most messages |
08:33:04 | Hes | I read linux-kernel at times, with an inclusive filter list (only let selected authors through 8-) |
08:33:19 | Zagor | Hes: probably a good idea |
08:33:37 | Hadaka | and reading 250 messages per day isn't that bad if your mailer is up to it |
08:33:38 | Zagor | I like kernel traffic. |
08:33:54 | Zagor | "best of" ;) |
08:34:35 | Hadaka | rec.martial-arts goes way over that btw - but most of it is crap you can just score down |
08:36:04 | Hadaka | in any case, when you start to get to high volumes of mail - it makes more and more sense for your mail reader to be atleast as good in processing volumes of mail as good newsreaders are in processing volumes of news articles |
08:36:23 | Zagor | i'm a recent mutt convert. it's very nice. |
08:36:56 | Hadaka | I could never use mutt for mail volumes like this |
08:38:23 | Zagor | what do you use? |
08:38:26 | Hadaka | Gnus |
08:38:30 | Zagor | ah |
08:38:35 | Hadaka | nothing has come even close in features |
08:38:43 | Zagor | I should try that |
08:39:02 | Hadaka | forteagent for windows is good if you do windows stuff - but that one can't read your mails I think |
08:39:13 | Zagor | ugh, no windows :) |
08:40:12 | Hadaka | yeah exactly - forteagent has very few features that Gnus doesn't have |
08:40:42 | Zagor | no I mean I don't like windows |
08:40:47 | Zagor | never mind :-) |
08:41:12 | Hadaka | :) |
08:42:25 | Hadaka | though there's one problem with Gnus |
08:42:35 | Hadaka | don't _ever_ accidentally lean on the keyboard |
08:42:39 | Zagor | haha |
08:42:46 | Hadaka | I've never encountered a key that has been unbound yet |
08:42:48 | * | Bagder grins |
08:51:32 | Bagder | I like adiamas' yahoo poll |
08:51:51 | adi|home | heheh why> |
08:52:11 | Bagder | it shows people are positive about rockbox |
08:52:32 | bobTHC | hi all! |
08:53:41 | adi|home | heheh better turn out then i expected :) |
08:53:53 | Zagor | url? |
08:54:10 | Bagder | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/archosjukebox6000/surveys?id=965249 |
08:55:45 | Zagor | mine is the only address short enough to be shown :) |
08:56:08 | Bagder | I think it shows it to you |
08:56:12 | Bagder | cause I saw only mine |
08:56:25 | Zagor | doh. of course. |
08:56:29 | Bagder | hate to ruin the fun for you ;-) |
08:56:58 | Bagder | gcc 3.2 - here we come! |
08:58:00 | LinusN | only rockbox developers chose alternative 1 :-) |
08:58:32 | Bagder | right, but then again we are the coolest ones B-P |
09:00 |
09:01:57 | LinusN | yeah, our opinions matter! :-) |
09:02:42 | Bagder | not your as much as mine, I think B-) |
09:03:19 | LinusN | oh, no, i wouldn't dare to say anything like that!!! |
09:03:39 | adi|home | hehehe |
09:03:42 | Bagder | mp3 decoder spam? |
09:03:45 | Bagder | :-) |
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09:04:24 | Topic | "Have a voice: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/archosjukebox6000/surveys?id=965249" by adi|home (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-161.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) |
09:05:05 | bobTHC | already made...:) |
09:05:18 | adi|home | i think the fact that we have 5 ppl that said they plan to try it says alot :) |
09:18:52 | LinusN | there isn'n much talk about the distortion on the list |
09:19:08 | LinusN | is it gone? |
09:19:24 | Zagor | i was wondering that too |
09:19:34 | Zagor | did you get *any* response to your mail about it? |
09:19:48 | LinusN | no |
09:19:52 | Bagder | let's assume it is gone until proven otherwise |
09:20:03 | Zagor | i agree |
09:20:08 | LinusN | i did that the last time a sent a similar mail to the list |
09:20:16 | LinusN | it wasn't gone then |
09:20:29 | Bagder | hehe |
09:20:31 | Zagor | yeah, but there's not a lot we can do without reports |
09:20:38 | LinusN | true |
09:21:57 | PsycoXul | i haven't gotten it back... |
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09:49:19 | rwood | LinusN: i bought a recorder 20 and usb 2.0 card today |
09:49:28 | Zagor | nice! |
09:49:33 | Bagder | rock |
09:49:48 | Bagder | its a nicer development target ;-) |
09:50:02 | rwood | LinusN: i'm charging the bats overnight and will start looking at rolo tommorrow - any suggestions on the problem? |
09:51:37 | rwood | i have a 4.53 player and 1.28? recorder, so i should be able to look at most any version |
09:52:20 | Bagder | yay ;-) |
09:53:25 | rwood | Zagor: if i make the mover a section in the loader, will it make the mod file 2MB? |
09:54:08 | LinusN | rwood: we need to reset the registers to the state they have when mod/ajz is loaded by the ROM firmware |
09:54:45 | LinusN | rwood: the mod will not be larger if you do like the IRAM fix does |
09:54:55 | LinusN | but leave that for now |
09:55:03 | LinusN | we can fox that later |
09:55:05 | LinusN | fix |
09:58:58 | rwood | LinusN: ok - i'll try capturing the registers at startup - would be easier with gdb - i'll probably install that next week |
09:59:16 | LinusN | rwood: you won't regret it |
09:59:37 | LinusN | rwood: or just crate a function that captures them |
09:59:48 | LinusN | and restore them again when loading the mod |
10:00 |
10:00:58 | rwood | LinusN: good idea - i'll try it tommorrow |
10:01:01 | LinusN | gdb won't help you much with this problem |
10:01:16 | LinusN | since it is the Archos mod that crashes |
10:03:19 | rwood | LinusN: i could display the default state of the regs - but your idea is better for now |
10:05:04 | rwood | Zagor: are all the registers listed in the old notes section, or do i need to go through the code |
10:06:15 | Zagor | no, they are not listed |
10:07:38 | rwood | Zagor: thanks, i'll look through the defs and go from there |
10:07:45 | Zagor | ok |
10:09:09 | rwood | i'll let you when i have made some progress - i'm down for the night |
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10:16:46 | Bagder | "Also we can't show logo because fonts are initialized later." |
10:16:48 | Bagder | ?? |
10:17:01 | Zagor | the logo uses font to show version num |
10:17:16 | Bagder | and it thus blanks the whole screen? |
10:17:46 | Bagder | weird fix btw |
10:17:48 | Zagor | i'm not sure exactly what happens, but it panicf()s when putsxy is called |
10:17:57 | LinusN | it sure does |
10:18:00 | Zagor | I didn't even look at it. his code is always weird :-( |
10:18:12 | Zagor | but he's right, that's the problem |
10:18:22 | Bagder | it just makes putsxy() not use loadable fonts |
10:19:14 | Bagder | but we need an internal font, that is correct |
10:19:28 | Zagor | Hadaka: what was that mouse mode again? I thought it was (alt|ctrl|altgr)-numlock but I can't get out of it |
10:19:46 | Zagor | this is the third time, and I still don't understand how I get into it... |
10:20:02 | Bagder | what mouse mode? |
10:20:10 | Zagor | Bagder: isn't his fix simply a reversal of my commit? |
10:20:21 | Bagder | might be |
10:20:24 | Zagor | some xfree86 mouse mode that makes numpad steer the cursor |
10:20:29 | Bagder | aha |
10:20:40 | Zagor | it kills key repeat _and_ remaps the numpad so simulator stops working. very annoying. |
10:20:46 | Hadaka | hmmm |
10:21:19 | Hadaka | shift-numlock |
10:21:35 | Zagor | doh! the one qualifier I didn't try... thanks. |
10:21:39 | Hadaka | :) |
10:21:47 | Zagor | I'm writing it down this time |
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10:22:14 | Bagder | Zagor: you mind if I remade the FAQ on the web to appear more like an integrated page? |
10:22:18 | Hadaka | just grep it from xkb |
10:22:19 | Bagder | remake |
10:22:34 | Zagor | Bagder: no problem. i meant to do that long ago but it fell off my head |
10:22:51 | Bagder | Zagor: I have some lines from the curl site to use |
10:23:00 | Zagor | goodie |
10:25:24 | Hadaka | hrm, I suppose no recent nntpcache packages can be found for debian |
10:25:47 | Zagor | apt-cache show nttpcache |
10:26:06 | Zagor | oh :) |
10:26:55 | Hadaka | yeah, point is on _recent_ |
10:26:59 | Zagor | hehe |
10:27:41 | Zagor | which branch are you using? testing? unstable? |
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10:29:32 | Bagder | Zagor: I'd like to add a little script to the site construction kit, "txt2plain.pl" |
10:29:43 | Zagor | ok |
10:29:57 | dwihno | *shake his head* |
10:29:59 | dwihno | Greetings |
10:30:06 | Bagder | Zagor: so where do I put it so that it can run when you update the site? |
10:30:31 | Zagor | anywhere. the root is ok. |
10:30:37 | Bagder | ok |
10:31:20 | * | adi|home screams |
10:31:28 | * | adi|home beats his head against the wall somemore |
10:31:55 | Zagor | wazzup? |
10:32:08 | Bagder | Zagor: but that isn't in the path right? so I need to invoke it with a specific path? |
10:32:24 | Zagor | yes |
10:32:37 | adi|home | same prob |
10:32:44 | adi|home | stupid frigging usb |
10:32:46 | Zagor | adi|home: ah, right |
10:33:10 | LinusN | adi|home: try booting with the archos plugged in and on |
10:33:34 | adi|home | rebooting my linux box or the mp3 players? |
10:33:44 | LinusN | linux box |
10:33:52 | adi|home | hmm.. tried once.. ill try again.. brb |
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10:34:26 | Bagder | Zagor: now my faq experient is ready for a test shot |
10:34:57 | LinusN | faq experiment? |
10:35:02 | Zagor | Bagder: how? |
10:35:13 | Bagder | Zagor: cvs update the site, run make |
10:35:26 | Zagor | LinusN: when paused, can I read how much the DMA has sent of the current chunk? |
10:35:30 | Bagder | LinusN: a more htmlized version of the faq |
10:35:48 | LinusN | Zagor: read DTCR3 |
10:35:52 | Zagor | ok |
10:36:04 | LinusN | it counts down, i think |
10:36:40 | LinusN | "indicates the remaining transfer count" |
10:36:43 | Zagor | Bagder: now much difference. a few , that's all |
10:36:53 | Zagor | LinusN: ok |
10:37:05 | Bagder | Zagor: and the menu and things, which was my main point |
10:37:16 | Bagder | the ascii art went nuts though |
10:37:30 | Bagder | me fix |
10:38:09 | LinusN | Bagder: where is it? |
10:38:17 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/faq.html |
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10:38:56 | LinusN | it's ugly! |
10:39:05 | Bagder | it's broken |
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10:39:10 | LinusN | and i want the links to work! |
10:39:14 | LinusN | it SUCKS! |
10:39:16 | Bagder | but if it is ugly, that's because the original is |
10:39:16 | LinusN | BOOOOOOH! |
10:39:19 | Bagder | :-) |
10:39:23 | * | Bagder smasks LinusN |
10:39:37 | LinusN | it breaks the lines in a strange manner |
10:39:41 | Bagder | yeah |
10:39:42 | Bagder | very odd |
10:39:43 | adi|home | seems to be okay now |
10:39:48 | adi|home | oddd... |
10:39:55 | Zagor | it should be a <dl> list instead of <pre> text, IMHO |
10:39:57 | adi|home | it _has_ to be something to do with low voltage |
10:40:00 | Bagder | adi|home: work in progress => http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/faq.html |
10:40:03 | adi|home | cause its juiced up a bit now.. |
10:40:18 | Bagder | <dl> ? |
10:40:56 | Zagor | description list. put one <dt> "tag" and one <dd> "description" per list item |
10:41:14 | adi|home | sweet bagder |
10:41:16 | Bagder | right |
10:41:20 | adi|home | you have that running off a perl script? |
10:41:22 | Bagder | but that would take a whole lot of parsing |
10:41:27 | Zagor | of course :-) |
10:41:33 | Bagder | adi|home: yes, you need not change a bit ;-) |
10:41:41 | adi|home | hehehe sweet |
10:41:48 | adi|home | whats the perlscript? |
10:41:55 | adi|home | make sure its in cvs case i need to break it |
10:41:58 | adi|home | i mean.. um.. ahh.. |
10:42:05 | adi|home | read it.. yeah.. thats what i ment |
10:42:29 | adi|home | if it makes your life easier.. we can just ditch the header |
10:43:03 | Bagder | I gotta fix the problem anyway, it happens somewhere at the end too |
10:43:08 | adi|home | nods |
10:43:22 | Bagder | txt2plain.pl is now added to CVS |
10:43:34 | adi|home | btw.. thanks for the patience with my player problems lads ;) |
10:43:51 | Zagor | :) |
10:44:04 | adi|home | its funny.. |
10:44:24 | adi|home | i just start feeling comfy in linux.. and _everytime_ some prob kicks me in the nads for spite |
10:45:10 | Bagder | hey |
10:45:21 | Bagder | that long line in the bottom is in the original ;-) |
10:45:31 | adi|home | what? |
10:45:36 | * | Bagder points to adi|home |
10:45:39 | adi|home | shouldn't be... |
10:45:49 | Bagder | line 272 |
10:45:49 | adi|home | ill look.. hold on |
10:47:16 | Zagor | LinusN: is there a problem calling mpeg_pause() directly after mpeg_play() ? |
10:47:41 | LinusN | i don't think so |
10:48:20 | LinusN | but it would be nicer if mpeg_play had a 'paused' flag |
10:48:26 | Zagor | I'd say every 64KB is accurate enough for mid-track. no fussing about with DTCR3. at least not yet. |
10:48:34 | adi|home | fixed bag..updating |
10:48:49 | LinusN | Zagor: don't mess with it unless we really need it |
10:48:54 | Zagor | precisely |
10:49:06 | Zagor | now I just need it to start paused |
10:49:36 | * | Zagor just did a mid-track resume of a file in a shuffled playlist |
10:49:47 | LinusN | i think mpeg.c should have a "paused" flag |
10:50:01 | adi|home | hmmm that was odd.. fixed though |
10:50:34 | adi|home | know what i wish... |
10:50:44 | adi|home | i wish it could just be a _bit_ hotter outside? |
10:50:55 | adi|home | i mean.. i REALLY love swimming in my own sweat |
10:51:05 | adi|home | and drinkign like 15 liters of water a day just to not die |
10:51:14 | * | adi|home sighs |
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10:56:17 | * | Bagder prepares for the unofficial "Indian Rockbox Lunch August 2002" |
10:56:27 | adi|home | hehe i wish i could be there |
10:56:43 | adi|home | thats okay.. MeRWiN and i are planning our own little dinner thing ;) |
10:56:50 | Hes | Where in sweden are you guys located, btw? |
10:56:56 | Bagder | stockholm |
10:57:55 | Zagor | LinusN: it seems I can't call pause when play_pending==true. and if I clear that in pause, then resum() doesn't work |
10:58:07 | Hes | I'll keep that in mind, we do ferry cruises every couple years to either Tallinn or Stockholm 8-) |
10:58:27 | Hes | I'm in Helsinki |
10:58:33 | Bagder | we'll set up another Devcon! ;-) |
11:00 |
11:00:57 | LinusN | Zagor: do it the hard way, with an mpeg_paused flag |
11:01:15 | LinusN | it'll probably pay off in the long run |
11:02:00 | Zagor | yeah, but how do I get it running again on resume? |
11:02:20 | LinusN | ? |
11:03:09 | Zagor | testing... |
11:03:21 | Bagder | Zagor: please remove the existing txt2plain.pl, update the www cvs and run make again |
11:04:10 | * | Zagor obeys |
11:04:32 | Bagder | looking better |
11:05:05 | LinusN | Bagder: really rockers!!!! |
11:05:28 | Bagder | now we can change the menu to point to that |
11:08:20 | LinusN | Zagor: have you tested your resume with a relative-path playlist? |
11:09:42 | Zagor | no |
11:10:03 | Zagor | it won't be perfect when I check it in |
11:10:17 | LinusN | that might be the reason it went bazookas when i tried it |
11:10:26 | Zagor | maybe |
11:10:34 | adi|home | shit shit shit |
11:10:46 | LinusN | Zagor: and the LED works fine for me |
11:10:48 | adi|home | Aug 16 05:09:37 truman kernel: Filesystem panic (dev 08:01). |
11:10:48 | adi|home | Aug 16 05:09:37 truman kernel: FAT error |
11:10:48 | adi|home | Aug 16 05:09:37 truman kernel: File system has been set read-only |
11:10:48 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK adi|home |
11:10:48 | adi|home | Aug 16 05:09:37 truman kernel: Directory 1215: bad FAT |
11:10:55 | Zagor | really? that's very strange. |
11:11:11 | LinusN | adi|home: fsck is your friend |
11:11:40 | LinusN | but you muist be able to mount it first, though... :-) |
11:11:48 | adi|home | i can mount it now.. |
11:11:56 | adi|home | just not all that familar with fsck |
11:12:22 | Bagder | but you ran dosfsck yday, right? |
11:12:36 | adi|home | yeah.. and it choked and died |
11:12:43 | Bagder | ugh |
11:12:43 | LinusN | Zagor and Bagder: remember...11:30.... |
11:12:45 | adi|home | it just sat there for like 4 hrs not doing anything |
11:12:49 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
11:12:49 | * | Bagder remembers |
11:13:04 | adi|home | man i assume |
11:13:09 | adi|home | -t vfat? |
11:13:16 | LinusN | yup |
11:14:22 | adi|home | okay.. boot sector screwed up? |
11:14:31 | adi|home | There are differences between boot sector and its backup. |
11:14:31 | adi|home | Differences: (offset:original/backup) |
11:14:31 | adi|home | 65:01/00 |
11:14:40 | adi|home | should i just skip it? |
11:17:35 | LinusN | offset 65? |
11:17:40 | adi|home | yeah |
11:17:58 | LinusN | hex or dec? |
11:18:04 | adi|home | dunno.. |
11:18:12 | adi|home | just showing exactly what it dumped to screen |
11:18:22 | LinusN | offset 65 in the boot sector... |
11:18:48 | LinusN | you can probably skip it |
11:18:56 | LinusN | offset 65 is in the boot code itself |
11:19:06 | LinusN | so it doesn't matter unless you boot from it |
11:19:06 | adi|home | k |
11:19:23 | LinusN | wait a sec |
11:19:47 | Lowfiler | good morning @ll |
11:19:56 | | Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|lunch (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
11:20:39 | LinusN | hi Lowfiler |
11:21:08 | Lowfiler | hi linus |
11:21:19 | Lowfiler | im doin' a t-shirt design now |
11:21:23 | LinusN | great |
11:21:23 | | Nick Lowfiler is now known as Low[a] (H@pD9E68D61.dip.t-dialin.net) |
11:21:25 | Low[a] | <<−− |
11:21:44 | Low[a] | are there any colour restriction? |
11:21:51 | LinusN | not really |
11:21:55 | Low[a] | k |
11:22:10 | LinusN | we want to use either blue or white t-shirts |
11:22:12 | Low[a] | it could be expensive to print t-shirts with high color :) |
11:22:23 | LinusN | so it better be good on those backgrounds |
11:22:33 | Low[a] | ok |
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13:13:07 | Hes | Hey, what was the 40G HD of choice for the recorder 20? |
13:27:14 | adi|home | dunno.. don't have it.. |
13:27:30 | Hes | and what model is the current one? |
13:30:07 | Snorlax | anybody here who only use external charger?! |
13:30:56 | adi|home | you mean the DC wall unit |
13:31:02 | adi|home | or pull the batteries and charge the,? |
13:32:52 | Snorlax | pull them |
13:34:02 | adi|home | ah.. no.. i don't do that :) |
13:34:51 | Snorlax | u got a recoreder?! |
13:35:26 | datazone | Snorlax: i do |
13:35:45 | Snorlax | ahh, how long do they last then?! |
13:35:46 | datazone | they last longer now |
13:36:01 | datazone | i havent clocked it |
13:36:58 | datazone | i have some 1700mAh batteries now, i should do a test to see how long each last |
13:37:22 | Snorlax | ok, but isn't it dangerous if the batteries wear out when in usb mode, for example?! |
13:37:37 | datazone | nah, it just powers the device off |
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13:37:49 | Snorlax | happened to u? |
13:37:49 | datazone | it happened to me two days ago actualy |
13:37:58 | Snorlax | ok, and.. |
13:37:59 | datazone | all i did, was put new batterries in |
13:38:10 | datazone | and then removed the incomplete files, and restarted |
13:38:37 | datazone | but then again, i no longer fear damaging my unit |
13:38:45 | Snorlax | u got a player, right? |
13:38:48 | datazone | its been through hell and survived |
13:38:51 | datazone | yeah |
13:39:27 | Snorlax | =) |
13:39:49 | PsycoXul | /dev/fs/misc 3.1G 2.9G 56M 99% /mnt/tmp |
13:39:51 | Hes | LinusN: you had a 40G disk installed? |
13:39:52 | PsycoXul | 1.9G /mnt/tmp |
13:39:54 | PsycoXul | um? |
13:39:58 | PsycoXul | any ideas? |
13:40:10 | adi|home | hmm what i don't get it? |
13:40:20 | LinusN | yes i have |
13:40:47 | adi|home | LinusN: any idea why my recorder is giving of _really_ excessive heat> |
13:40:55 | adi|home | i was charging (and checking the drive in windows) |
13:41:04 | adi|home | and the heat coming off is _really_ noticable |
13:41:14 | adi|home | i unplugged the charger just in case |
13:41:27 | Hes | LinusN: which disk did you choose? |
13:41:44 | LinusN | its a Toshiba, can't really remember the exact model |
13:41:48 | Hes | I'm trying to compare between Toshiba/IBM/Fujitsu/Hitachi |
13:41:53 | Hes | What's the original? |
13:42:07 | LinusN | Fujitsu |
13:42:36 | LinusN | adi|home: this heat, is it a new phenomenon? |
13:42:52 | * | adi|home nods |
13:43:15 | adi|home | to give you an idea.. |
13:43:27 | adi|home | if you are in a car, and play a tape in a tape deck for a long time |
13:43:28 | Hes | Been happy with the Toshiba? |
13:43:30 | adi|home | and you take the tape out.. |
13:43:34 | adi|home | you know how hot the tape gets? |
13:43:54 | LinusN | adi|home: yes |
13:44:03 | LinusN | Hes: very, very happy |
13:44:10 | adi|home | thats how it feels |
13:44:15 | Hes | adi|home: did you note the voltage at which the charging was going at? |
13:44:28 | adi|home | Hes: its not charing under rockbox |
13:44:30 | LinusN | i mean, is it hotter than normal? |
13:44:32 | adi|home | its charging in usb mode |
13:44:37 | adi|home | yeah.. it is |
13:44:49 | Hes | in the USB mode of the archos firmware or rockbox? |
13:44:50 | LinusN | in USB mode? |
13:44:56 | adi|home | yeah.. |
13:44:57 | adi|home | or archos |
13:45:00 | adi|home | of |
13:45:00 | LinusN | then the disk is constantly spinning, right? |
13:45:08 | adi|home | yeah |
13:45:09 | Hes | both have USB mode, and I believe both can charge during USB mode? |
13:45:18 | Hes | ok |
13:45:46 | Hes | LinusN: did you make note if the toshiba has lower power consumption than the original disk or not? |
13:45:55 | LinusN | no i haven't notices |
13:45:58 | LinusN | noticed |
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13:46:29 | LinusN | Hes: have you fixed the USB mode of the power thread? |
13:46:34 | Hes | I might consider getting at Toshiba MK4018GAP |
13:46:36 | adi|home | the batteries.. can those be replaced off shelf with AA recargeable NiMH batteries? |
13:46:44 | LinusN | yes |
13:46:46 | Hes | LinusN: um, no, is there a problem? |
13:46:47 | datazone | yeah |
13:46:47 | adi|home | k |
13:46:59 | adi|home | any suggestions on where i can order some? |
13:47:02 | Hes | adi|home: yes, i got a set of GP 1800 mAh batteries and I'm happy |
13:47:02 | LinusN | does it really charge in USB mode? |
13:47:09 | adi|home | sweet.. |
13:47:10 | adi|home | ty |
13:47:41 | datazone | ooo.. i have some 1700mAh, guess i will have to find 1800 now, wonder if there is any 2000mAh :) |
13:47:58 | Hes | LinusN: Actually I haven't tried, I don't know why it wouldn't |
13:48:01 | LinusN | Hes: sorry, i thought the power thread had an event queue |
13:48:09 | Hes | assuming the USB mode doesn't stop other threads |
13:48:32 | adi|home | btw.. i haven't given up on player icons LinusN ')_ |
13:48:34 | LinusN | only threads with event queues are affected |
13:48:35 | adi|home | :) |
13:48:40 | adi|home | ive just been sidetracked |
13:49:05 | Hes | http://www.gpbatteries.com.hk/Consumer/General/Nickel_Metal/Nickel_Metal.asp |
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13:49:46 | Hes | at least those guys have '2000 series' cells which are rated at around 19xx mAh (close to 2000) |
13:50:22 | adi|home | ty |
13:50:24 | Hes | adi|home: think just about every shop selling consumer electronics carries NiMH batteries these days. |
13:50:37 | Hes | The ones I tried only had 1700/1800 mAh batteries |
13:51:15 | datazone | well the player only came with 1500 |
13:51:24 | datazone | so almost anything is a step up |
13:51:30 | * | Hes is watching rockbox charge the stock 1500 mAh cells at 5.66V |
13:52:54 | datazone | http://www.batteriesamerica.com/ <−−- 2000mAh |
13:53:03 | Hes | LinusN: The toshiba disk you have is quiet too? as quiet as the original? The IBM disks I've had have been pretty noisy at times |
13:53:22 | Hes | now my newer laptop is going to the shop to replace the disk... |
13:54:45 | LinusN | Bagder: how many bytes did we save? |
13:55:09 | Bagder | x0400 per thread |
13:55:14 | Bagder | 0x400 |
13:55:20 | LinusN | ok 1k per thread |
13:55:24 | Bagder | yes |
13:55:26 | Zagor | doing what? |
13:55:30 | LinusN | it's better than nothing.... |
13:55:33 | Bagder | cut the stack |
13:55:47 | Bagder | my max was 23% when I checked just now |
13:55:50 | Zagor | oh, so they weren't 8k, they were 2k? |
13:55:58 | Bagder | yes |
13:56:01 | Zagor | ah |
13:56:06 | LinusN | Bagder: the main stack is different |
13:56:12 | LinusN | and huge |
13:56:23 | adi|home | Cow and Chicken! |
13:57:36 | Bagder | static char mpeg_stack[DEFAULT_STACK_SIZE + 0x1000]; |
13:57:42 | Bagder | ? |
13:58:00 | adi|home | who was working on the dir limit issue? |
13:58:07 | * | adi|home just wnats to know how it went.. |
13:58:09 | Zagor | adi|home: linus |
13:58:15 | Zagor | it's checked in already |
13:58:17 | adi|home | nods |
13:58:25 | adi|home | so i take it it went okay ;) |
13:58:41 | Zagor | seems like it, yes :) |
13:58:43 | Bagder | LinusN: my mpeg stack is on 3%, any point in having those extra 0x1000 bytes? |
13:59:11 | Bagder | ok, 14% while playing |
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14:00:23 | adi|home | how about playing and doing a game? |
14:00:25 | adi|home | ie: tetris? |
14:00:27 | LinusN | Bagder: we can probably cut a little there too |
14:00:41 | LinusN | games use the main stack |
14:00:43 | Zagor | adi|home: different stacks |
14:01:12 | adi|home | ahh.. okay |
14:04:55 | adi|home | soooo funny... |
14:05:13 | adi|home | AA usb cable on archos: $39.95 |
14:05:24 | Zagor | ooh, cheap! |
14:05:30 | adi|home | cableclub: AA usb: $6/50 |
14:05:34 | adi|home | 6.50 rather |
14:05:36 | adi|home | i love it |
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14:23:37 | LinusN | Zagor: how's it going? |
14:24:05 | Zagor | i'm not sure. still testing. i'm sending you another diff. |
14:24:43 | LinusN | gr8t |
14:25:42 | elinenbe | Zagor: I see you have been working on a resume patch! How is it coming? |
14:25:43 | Zagor | buh. I never saved the seed. |
14:25:57 | Zagor | it's very close to commit |
14:26:06 | Zagor | within the hour, I'd say |
14:26:15 | elinenbe | Zagor: nice. Does it work with playlists? |
14:26:26 | Zagor | yes. and shuffled playlist. and mid-song. |
14:26:32 | dwihno | 1x2? |
14:26:35 | LinusN | Zagor: the index bug? |
14:26:48 | Zagor | LinusN: yes, looks like it was the seed not the index |
14:26:54 | LinusN | ah |
14:27:19 | elinenbe | Zagor: that is great. I'm looking forward to it. Did you use my suggestion of pause/off to save mid song, or can you save mid song when you just hit off? |
14:27:22 | LinusN | Zagor: remember to be able to handle USB mode in the "first" wps screen. |
14:27:30 | Zagor | elinenbe: both |
14:27:58 | Zagor | recorders handle just turning off (since they have RTC ram), players need to use the pause method to get exact resume |
14:28:25 | elinenbe | Zagor: this is sounding better and better... how often does it save the location to recorder ram? |
14:28:35 | elinenbe | Zagor: the rtc ram |
14:28:43 | Zagor | every 64KB |
14:28:44 | LinusN | every dma cycle |
14:29:00 | LinusN | almost always 64k |
14:29:04 | elinenbe | wow! This is going to be AWESOME! |
14:29:12 | LinusN | indeed |
14:29:36 | LinusN | 1.3 is coming closer every day |
14:29:46 | elinenbe | if you read about the Archos Multimedia they use the method I mentioned. |
14:30:04 | Zagor | yeah, you told me yesterday |
14:30:43 | elinenbe | But, now it seems Archos doesn't give a flying fuck about the player and recoder anymore... they have stopped all development on them with so many bugs and features left out. |
14:30:55 | Zagor | good for us ;-) |
14:31:05 | elinenbe | keep up the good work... |
14:31:53 | elinenbe | I wonder when Archos will stop making the players and recorders will people be buying htem up in hordes? That is what happend with the empeg/riocar. Now that they are no longer made everyone wants one, and they are too expensive for anyone to buy |
14:33:47 | elinenbe | I really dont think any players can compare to the Archos other then maybe the ipod. Everything is either too large or is missing X features, etc. The RioRiot looked promising, but then that turned out to be crap. |
14:34:25 | Bagder | oh, new design arrived |
14:34:35 | Hes | Zagor: how do you fit the path in the RTC? do you use a sector number or something instead of the path? |
14:34:42 | Hes | or just the offset in the RTC and the path on disk? |
14:34:47 | Zagor | exactly |
14:34:54 | Zagor | path on disk |
14:35:09 | Hes | Excellent. |
14:35:19 | Hes | Great stuff. |
14:36:08 | dwihno | Zagor: is the disk write enabled nowadays? |
14:36:15 | dwihno | or is it still in the debug stage? |
14:36:42 | LinusN | it's enabled |
14:36:57 | Zagor | we just dont have file system write support yet |
14:37:02 | Zagor | only sector write |
14:37:20 | Zagor | i'll start with fat_write after 1.3 |
14:39:21 | LinusN | Zagor: show me the code! |
14:39:36 | Zagor | oh, sorry. coming up. |
14:39:44 | Bagder | woo |
14:39:50 | Bagder | *that* is a design ;-) |
14:39:55 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/tshirt-contest/designs.html |
14:39:57 | LinusN | yeah it's nice |
14:39:59 | Bagder | lotr |
14:40:07 | Zagor | oooo |
14:40:38 | LinusN | Bagder: no link to the back side |
14:41:05 | LinusN | or rather, the links are screwed up |
14:41:08 | dwihno | Nice design :) |
14:41:31 | LinusN | the "Front side" text is part of the back sied link |
14:41:42 | Bagder | your browser is picky |
14:41:50 | LinusN | Opera |
14:42:10 | elinenbe | there is a bug in there, my name is on the shirt twice :) |
14:42:19 | elinenbe | uh oh... |
14:42:20 | elinenbe | :D |
14:42:23 | dwihno | Opera is gut |
14:42:34 | Bagder | elinenbe: you must be twice as good! ;-) |
14:43:26 | elinenbe | but I am only 1/4 as good... if even that. |
14:46:57 | adi|home | hmmm i love the back design |
14:47:07 | adi|home | but i think the two togeather are a bit much... |
14:47:16 | adi|home | im more for minimal front if you have a front and back :) |
14:47:23 | adi|home | but i love the back :) |
14:47:37 | adi|home | sorry.. invert that:) |
14:48:15 | adi|home | unless we did the ring as a small image over the heart, and the full image back... |
14:48:19 | * | adi|home shrugs |
14:52:22 | LinusN | Zagor: no 'resume?' question? |
14:52:24 | Zagor | bah. seed is still not saved. how can it not be? :-( |
14:52:36 | Zagor | not yet, fighting the bug first |
14:53:26 | LinusN | Zagor: where is the seed saved? |
14:53:30 | Zagor | settings.c |
14:54:51 | LinusN | i see that the seed isn't allowed to be0xffxxxxxxx |
14:55:17 | Zagor | well that's another bug :) |
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14:59:18 | Schmoo2k | How many people develop on windows versus linux? |
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15:00:00 | Bagder | many on linux, few on windows |
15:00:03 | Bagder | i think |
15:00:25 | b0bTHC | hi |
15:00:39 | LinusN | hi |
15:01:28 | Schmoo2k | Does anyone have windows make files available? |
15:02:10 | Bagder | Schmoo2k: do you have the gnu-sh and cross-compiler installed? |
15:02:16 | Schmoo2k | Yes |
15:02:36 | Bagder | so you can't run the configure and use that makefile? |
15:02:41 | Schmoo2k | (and cvs and have got latest sources) - just missing the first step (I hope). |
15:03:04 | Schmoo2k | Tools won't compile with its make file... |
15:03:14 | Bagder | oh |
15:03:33 | Bagder | what happens? |
15:03:36 | Schmoo2k | one mo... |
15:04:12 | Schmoo2k | cc -O -s -ansi scramble.c -o scramble process_begin: CreateProcess((null), cc -O -s -ansi scramble.c -o scramble, ...) failed. |
15:04:12 | Schmoo2k | make (e=2): The system cannot find the file specified. |
15:04:12 | Schmoo2k | make: *** [scramble] Error 2 |
15:05:05 | elinenbe | schmoo2K: run make in the tools directory and then try again. |
15:05:27 | Schmoo2k | That error was running MAKE in the tools dir... |
15:06:06 | Schmoo2k | I can run make -d, but it doesn;t provide anything obviously usefull... |
15:06:22 | Bagder | is that a problem with the shell or something? |
15:07:17 | Schmoo2k | Bagder, I *suspect*, that there is somthing trying to "start" a new process which may just not work in windows??? |
15:07:35 | Bagder | Schmoo2k: make invokes the shell that should run the compiler |
15:07:46 | Bagder | at least it normally works that way |
15:08:56 | Schmoo2k | Bagder: Well if I call make -d (debug mode) it seems to "work" for the most part and then bails with that error... |
15:09:10 | PsycoXul | type cc |
15:09:27 | Schmoo2k | doesn;t recognize "cc" |
15:09:35 | PsycoXul | try gcc |
15:09:45 | Schmoo2k | same again. |
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15:10:33 | PsycoXul | well there ya go |
15:11:04 | Schmoo2k | Looking in my sh-elf folder, all my bins are of the form (and pathed correctly): sh-elf-???,exe |
15:11:22 | PsycoXul | yeah thats the target crosscompiler though |
15:11:34 | PsycoXul | the tools are meant to be run on the build host |
15:11:39 | Schmoo2k | Ahhh, ok so I need the gnu copiler also? |
15:11:42 | PsycoXul | and so you need a native compiler to build them |
15:12:16 | PsycoXul | right |
15:12:28 | Schmoo2k | ok, can I just use visual studio, or am I better getting the gc++? |
15:12:43 | PsycoXul | don't ask me, i use linux :p |
15:13:10 | Bagder | Schmoo2k: you could probably get those few tools from someone else who has built then alreay |
15:13:16 | Bagder | they don't change much |
15:13:28 | Schmoo2k | PsycoXul - I can compile under unix (but am a real begginer though). But my USB doesn't work :( |
15:13:42 | Schmoo2k | *linux |
15:15:36 | elinenbe | Zagor: what is the status on the resume patch? |
15:15:49 | Zagor | working on it |
15:16:35 | edx | Bagder, cool mail ;) |
15:16:47 | Bagder | thanks ;-) |
15:17:03 | edx | I hope he'll help us hehe |
15:17:07 | edx | for two t-shirts :D |
15:17:30 | Bagder | =) |
15:17:33 | Schmoo2k | Badger: Looks like I can build the tools in vc, will give it a shot... |
15:18:11 | edx | Schmoo2k: you requested assistance with the windows compilation, right? |
15:18:13 | Bagder | Schmoo2k: yes, that should work |
15:18:21 | b0bTHC | for t-shirt, it's perhaps possible to use the back from somebody and the front from an other ? |
15:18:25 | Schmoo2k | edx: Yup... |
15:18:48 | Bagder | b0bTHC: I don't think that would look very good |
15:18:48 | Schmoo2k | edx: "I think" my only missing step is compiling the tools folder (I hope)... |
15:18:51 | edx | I made makefiles that work for the GNUSH compiler but they are not in CVS, yet - am I allowed to add them? |
15:19:02 | Bagder | edx: go go go ;-) |
15:19:09 | edx | Schmoo2k: really, the firmware compiles? |
15:19:23 | Schmoo2k | edx: need to do the tools first... |
15:19:24 | edx | Bagder: have hte files on another computer, i'll do that later today |
15:19:32 | Bagder | ok |
15:19:49 | edx | Schmoo2k: I did not need to compile the tools at all afaik |
15:20:12 | b0bTHC | I'm definitly ok for the team on the back and if i understand i'm obliged to "copy" form an other guy... |
15:20:17 | edx | well, i'll upload the files to CVS and that should solve the problem |
15:20:40 | b0bTHC | the idea of course no the gfx.. |
15:20:57 | Schmoo2k | edx: great, I will go ahead and get the GNUSH compiler, any version or latest ok? |
15:21:05 | Bagder | b0bTHC: I think stealing t-shirt ideas is all fine ;-) |
15:21:11 | b0bTHC | ;) |
15:21:17 | Bagder | as long as we get really fine ones in the end! |
15:21:37 | b0bTHC | of course! :) |
15:21:40 | edx | Schmoo2k: yea |
15:21:47 | edx | Schmoo2k: the latest |
15:23:03 | Schmoo2k | edx: I have the "ELF" format, is it the "COFF" format I need to compile for the windows platform? |
15:23:34 | | Quit freshmaker ("ChatZilla 0.8.9 [Mozilla rv:1.1b/20020809]") |
15:23:36 | edx | no ELF is OK |
15:24:29 | Schmoo2k | edx: I have that already. Is the only thing I am missing now is the appropriate make files? |
15:25:52 | PsycoXul | haha |
15:26:00 | PsycoXul | Bagder: nice response to that dsp thing |
15:26:11 | * | Bagder bows ;-) |
15:26:56 | edx | Schmook: yea |
15:27:35 | Schmoo2k | edx: just so I understand (lat question promise), you don't call "configure", you just use your make file? |
15:30:17 | edx | yep |
15:30:30 | edx | du you have a recorder or a player (dont know it works for my recorder) |
15:31:05 | Bagder | edx: would it be possible to get your makefile into the "configure" system? |
15:31:23 | Bagder | like another option or something |
15:32:04 | edx | i think we dont have configure in windows lol |
15:32:23 | Bagder | edx: no but it is a shell script and you have gnu-sh, right? |
15:35:55 | edx | yea |
15:36:15 | edx | ahh.. configure is a script *lol* im a linux freak :P |
15:36:24 | edx | hmm we dont have a script interpreter on windows |
15:36:30 | edx | not sh.. |
15:37:31 | Bagder | oh well |
15:37:40 | Bagder | there are several |
15:37:48 | Bagder | I've used them |
15:37:54 | Bagder | but never mind that |
15:37:54 | edx | vbs ;P |
15:38:12 | Bagder | ported unix programs of course |
15:38:48 | edx | what is configure supposed to do? |
15:39:08 | Bagder | it sets up a "master makefile" |
15:39:18 | Bagder | it asks for what target and things |
15:39:24 | Bagder | and generates a makefile for you |
15:39:24 | edx | ah |
15:39:39 | Bagder | then when you run make it creates all object files in that directory |
15:39:47 | edx | i only used it provately so i didnt need that til now |
15:39:55 | Bagder | which then makes it easy to have several different build dirs with the same source dirs |
15:43:38 | * | edx goes to his desktop pc and joins irc |
15:45:08 | | Quit edx ("be right back") |
15:49:25 | adi|home | hehehe i like the spam answer :) |
15:49:58 | Bagder | I'm sure he'll send back lots of DSP code ;-P |
15:51:18 | adi|home | hehehhe |
15:51:22 | adi|home | i would... |
15:51:25 | adi|home | for tshirts ;) |
15:51:28 | LinusN | of course |
15:52:04 | b0bTHC | for a t-shirt AND a place in the Credits too !! |
15:52:06 | b0bTHC | :) |
15:52:06 | adi|home | wow.. i feel naked.... |
15:52:10 | adi|home | took my necklace off |
15:52:18 | adi|home | first time in like... 3 years.. |
15:52:27 | * | adi|home feels weird and quickly puts it back on |
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15:54:15 | edx | there i am... |
15:54:18 | edx | i have the makefiles here |
15:54:23 | edx | i'll commite them in a sec |
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15:58:41 | b0bTHC | 2 edx in the same time @ different place ....ubiquitous? |
15:58:49 | b0bTHC | :) |
15:59:51 | edx|notebook | yea :) |
16:00 |
16:00:02 | b0bTHC | it's to increase the Irc stats of course ;) |
16:00:30 | edx|notebook | certainly :) |
16:05:38 | matsl | time to go. bmp2rb - convert bitmap to rockbox tool comitted. CU |
16:05:57 | Bagder | neato matsl |
16:06:02 | LinusN | good job, matsl! |
16:06:13 | | Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") |
16:08:32 | Bagder | LinusN: check my commit |
16:08:40 | Bagder | that's what made matsls problems |
16:08:47 | LinusN | aha |
16:08:52 | LinusN | nasty |
16:08:57 | Bagder | amusingly enough 112 makes 8-byte and 4-byte aligns fine ;-) |
16:09:27 | * | edx commited the w32 makefiles |
16:10:06 | | Quit ironi ("leaving") |
16:10:09 | edx | they are named win32.mak |
16:10:31 | * | Zagor prepares resume commit |
16:10:47 | Bagder | uh, edx, that main.c fix... |
16:11:38 | Bagder | we're not using WIN32 everywhere |
16:11:45 | edx|notebook | what fix? |
16:11:50 | Bagder | char appsversion[]="WIN32"; |
16:12:01 | edx|notebook | hmmmmmmm where is that? |
16:12:06 | Bagder | apps/main.c |
16:12:10 | edx|notebook | DMAN |
16:12:14 | edx|notebook | DID I COMMIT THAT CRAP? |
16:12:16 | edx|notebook | shit |
16:12:22 | Bagder | heh |
16:12:29 | edx|notebook | i didnt mean to |
16:12:49 | edx|notebook | i seem to have had some old files i never commited in the directory and then i commited the whole dir instead of just thos makefiles |
16:12:59 | edx|notebook | was that the only file? |
16:13:05 | Bagder | yes, I think so |
16:13:09 | edx|notebook | ok |
16:13:18 | edx|notebook | can you restore the old version? |
16:13:24 | Bagder | sure |
16:13:49 | edx|notebook | ah that was only one line *sigh* |
16:14:28 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
16:14:38 | Bagder | fixed |
16:15:19 | edx|notebook | thanks |
16:16:17 | edx|notebook | i havve to spend some time fixing the win32.mak files later that evening - they are only recorder compatible right now. |
16:16:47 | edx|notebook | I have no time at the moment (gotta leave soon..) - but i guess that can wait a few hours |
16:17:43 | Bagder | well, since they are *so* similar to the unix makefiles, I think we could work on uniting them competely |
16:18:03 | edx|notebook | yea i think just the if conditions dont work.. |
16:18:15 | * | edx|notebook cant remember what he changed |
16:18:43 | edx|notebook | no.. it was the sh related thing |
16:18:45 | edx|notebook | the dependencies |
16:19:11 | Bagder | we could make them dependening on some OS check or something |
16:19:30 | edx|notebook | yea.. but how can we check that? |
16:19:39 | edx|notebook | is there a version identifier or something? |
16:19:59 | Bagder | well, everyone who uses this on linux uses the configure-generated makefile |
16:20:12 | Bagder | so it could set a variable |
16:20:29 | Bagder | AUTODEPENDENCIES=yes |
16:20:33 | Bagder | :-) |
16:20:35 | edx|notebook | :) |
16:20:37 | edx|notebook | yea |
16:20:53 | edx|notebook | in windows I just clear everything and rebuild it afterwards.. |
16:21:03 | Bagder | hah |
16:21:06 | edx|notebook | not very clean but i only used it to build cutting edge source |
16:22:56 | edx|notebook | Zagor, are you in? |
16:23:12 | LinusN | he's busy :-) |
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16:23:31 | Zagor | Real Soon Now (tm) |
16:23:46 | edx|notebook | heh |
16:24:09 | edx|notebook | just wanted to say that oyu can delete the sentence saying that the iwndows compiler does not work with xp yet... it works now |
16:24:38 | Zagor | ok |
16:24:45 | edx|notebook | thansk |
16:24:55 | edx|notebook | ok... be back later ;) |
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16:29:05 | adi|home | lol@linus and i responding similarly on emails ;) |
16:29:43 | LinusN | well, time to go home! |
16:29:46 | LinusN | bye all! |
16:29:50 | Bagder | bye LinusN |
16:29:55 | | Part LinusN |
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16:35:44 | Zagor | here we go |
16:36:13 | * | Bagder takes a deep breath |
16:36:24 | Zagor | ah, not yet. must fix simulator. |
16:36:39 | Bagder | :-) |
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16:38:12 | Lowfiler | re |
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16:41:54 | Zagor | committed |
16:42:43 | Zagor | that should keep you busy a bit :) |
16:43:10 | Bagder | mail the list too, and we'll get some more testers on the case ;-) |
16:43:20 | Zagor | yup |
16:44:13 | elinenbe | WOOOO HOOO!!!!! |
16:44:15 | elinenbe | L |
16:44:16 | elinenbe | :) |
16:44:57 | PsycoXul | btw |
16:45:17 | PsycoXul | the id3v2 fix suggested by Magnus works fine for me |
16:45:47 | Zagor | PsycoXul: we have a better idea, to handle infinitely big tags |
16:46:00 | Zagor | but I guess his fix is good short-term |
16:46:05 | Bagder | is it? |
16:46:07 | PsycoXul | thats cool |
16:46:20 | Bagder | Zagor: I still can't see how his fix doesn't overrun the buffer |
16:46:48 | PsycoXul | well it looks like setid3v2title checks the buffer size itself i think |
16:47:27 | Zagor | if(size >= (int)sizeof(entry->id3v2buf)) |
16:47:27 | Zagor | size = sizeof(entry->id3v2buf)-1; |
16:47:27 | Zagor | if(size != read(fd, buffer, size)) |
16:47:27 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Zagor |
16:47:27 | Zagor | return; |
16:47:34 | Zagor | looks safe |
16:47:47 | Bagder | aaah, I he meant that check |
16:47:50 | Bagder | I thought |
16:47:55 | Bagder | ok, I get it |
16:48:09 | Zagor | why is size set to sizeof(buf)-1 ?? |
16:48:26 | Zagor | don't we want to use the whole buffer? 0 termination? |
16:48:33 | Bagder | because it zero terminates the strings |
16:48:45 | Zagor | ok |
16:48:48 | Bagder | you know, it doesn't copy them |
16:51:59 | b0bTHC | time to go home... see you later.! |
16:52:04 | Zagor | bye |
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16:52:15 | PsycoXul | heh |
16:52:18 | elinenbe | great job Zagor |
16:52:22 | Zagor | thanks |
16:52:24 | PsycoXul | 'Resume?' is in double-height |
16:52:24 | elinenbe | I like it... alot! |
16:52:31 | Zagor | oh, crap |
16:52:33 | Zagor | :) |
16:52:36 | Zagor | fixing |
16:52:41 | elinenbe | ff/rw does not work at all now −− correct? |
16:52:50 | Zagor | doesn't it? |
16:53:11 | aakil | Only after resume |
16:53:42 | Zagor | it works, it's just that resume doesn't know the new position so it will save an earlier position than what you were actually listening to |
16:53:56 | PsycoXul | hmm |
16:53:58 | Bagder | gotta go |
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16:54:06 | PsycoXul | after i seek it just goes silent... |
16:54:08 | elinenbe | I have no ff/rw here... unless it is just my build. |
16:54:16 | PsycoXul | even after stopping and starting the track over |
16:54:17 | Zagor | player or recorder? |
16:54:22 | elinenbe | same here. I get the same behavior as PsycoXul |
16:54:24 | PsycoXul | player here |
16:54:27 | elinenbe | ajbr6k |
16:54:28 | Zagor | ah, ok |
16:54:32 | Zagor | looking |
16:54:55 | elinenbe | also, on a resume the statusbar does not update... |
16:55:15 | Zagor | update what? |
16:55:32 | elinenbe | te little bar that moves across the screen |
16:55:51 | Zagor | yeah, that's what the checkin note said. |
16:56:53 | PsycoXul | ah and you've fixed the seek time config saving |
16:57:21 | Zagor | yes |
16:58:46 | PsycoXul | when's menu-navigation gonna wrap around like the browser does? |
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16:59:38 | Zagor | when someone fixes it :-) |
16:59:41 | PsycoXul | maybe 'General Settings' needs to be broken into 'Display' and 'Behaviour' settings? or something... |
16:59:58 | PsycoXul | it's getting rather long heh |
17:00 |
17:01:02 | elinenbe | it I noticed some interesting behavior here. sometime when I resume, it resumes on a differnet song |
17:01:14 | PsycoXul | heh |
17:01:23 | Zagor | that's odd |
17:01:35 | elinenbe | hold on... |
17:02:18 | PsycoXul | hmm |
17:02:22 | PsycoXul | yeah |
17:02:30 | PsycoXul | i just got that too |
17:02:42 | PsycoXul | it resumed back on the first song i had it resume on |
17:02:51 | PsycoXul | after pausing and shutting down on a different one |
17:02:56 | elinenbe | it now resumed to the first song in my root folder |
17:03:07 | elinenbe | is that what you got PsycoXul? |
17:03:20 | PsycoXul | no |
17:03:26 | PsycoXul | i don't have songs in my root folder |
17:03:26 | PsycoXul | heh |
17:03:40 | elinenbe | ah... no matter what song I stop it on, sometimes it resumes on the first song in the root dir. |
17:03:53 | PsycoXul | what was the first song you stopped it on? |
17:04:03 | elinenbe | not that song. |
17:04:07 | PsycoXul | weird |
17:04:24 | elinenbe | it seems it ALWAYS resumes on that song for me... |
17:05:05 | Zagor | did you start a song in your root dir? |
17:05:14 | elinenbe | Zagor: yes. |
17:05:20 | elinenbe | I think that is it... I am testing. |
17:05:30 | elinenbe | yup, that is it. |
17:05:40 | Zagor | that's a special case, which I now remember I haven't tested :) |
17:05:55 | elinenbe | if the song is in the root dir, then it only resumes on the first song. |
17:06:02 | elinenbe | well, I only have songs in my root dir! |
17:06:04 | elinenbe | :) |
17:06:06 | Zagor | haha |
17:06:09 | elinenbe | 6000 to be exact :) |
17:06:11 | Zagor | ok, i'll look at it |
17:06:15 | elinenbe | great. |
17:06:16 | PsycoXul | goddamn! |
17:06:22 | PsycoXul | how do you manage that |
17:06:33 | elinenbe | ff/rw is broken though. |
17:06:42 | aakil | Zagor: the ff/rwd problem is due to the "paused" flag. FF/Rwd also pauses the job |
17:06:48 | elinenbe | PsycoXul: I am just kidding. |
17:06:52 | PsycoXul | ah heh |
17:06:53 | PsycoXul | :p |
17:06:54 | Zagor | aakil: yes. fixed now |
17:08:13 | PsycoXul | ok i dunno what caused it to resume on the wrong track for me a minute ago, but it seems to be working fine now... |
17:10:32 | PsycoXul | the resume settings should be like on/ask/off |
17:10:44 | PsycoXul | on doing it automatically, ask doing what it does now |
17:10:54 | elinenbe | PsycoXul: that is a great idea. |
17:11:05 | Zagor | the asking is because resuming a 5000+ file list is rather painful if you didn't really want that |
17:11:13 | PsycoXul | heh |
17:11:31 | PsycoXul | why's that? |
17:12:00 | Zagor | loading takes ~1s/1000 files, so it's another extra 5-7 seconds startup time |
17:12:09 | PsycoXul | ah right... |
17:12:36 | Zagor | elinenbe: right, i'm getting wrong track in root too |
17:12:42 | PsycoXul | is there a way to tell how big the playlist is before, and like asking if it's over a certain number? |
17:13:08 | elinenbe | Zagor: just think if it was resuming a 5000 track playlist on the original Archos firmware!! talk about painful!! |
17:13:15 | Zagor | hehe |
17:13:16 | PsycoXul | hehe |
17:13:42 | PsycoXul | well that's probably the Real reason archos decided on the 999 limit :p |
17:14:10 | Zagor | yeah, right :) |
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17:15:50 | PsycoXul | is it possible for seeking backwards at the beginning of a track to seek into the end of the previous? |
17:16:05 | Zagor | PsycoXul: currently not |
17:16:11 | elinenbe | PsycoXul: no, but that is a good idea. |
17:16:21 | elinenbe | PsycoXul: nice CD players have that functionality |
17:16:27 | PsycoXul | yeah |
17:16:45 | Zagor | elinenbe: the one it keeps resuming to, is it the first mp3 in your root? |
17:16:51 | elinenbe | yes. |
17:16:57 | PsycoXul | i think my fischer from like '94 had that... heh |
17:17:07 | PsycoXul | or '93 |
17:17:31 | Zagor | elinenbe: ok good, then I'm getting the same here. debugging... |
17:17:37 | elinenbe | well, I have folders in the root, but it resumes to the first file (alphabetically) |
17:17:48 | elinenbe | also, it just resumes to a file that it resumed to last time. |
17:17:57 | elinenbe | like what PsycoXul got. |
17:18:10 | PsycoXul | i'm not sure why i got that |
17:18:14 | PsycoXul | i only got it once so far |
17:18:17 | elinenbe | it happened when I just let it play into the next few songs... it resumed to the first song that was played. |
17:18:31 | Zagor | hmm |
17:18:58 | PsycoXul | ok i just got it again |
17:19:08 | PsycoXul | i think its maybe turning off too fast after pressing pause? i'm not sure |
17:19:08 | Zagor | try to find a pattern |
17:19:21 | Zagor | PsycoXul: do you have player or rec? |
17:19:22 | elinenbe | Here is what I did. went into a few folders. started the first song in that folder. shut off. resumed (worked fine). then listened to a few songs (from where I resumed) just let it play on... |
17:19:24 | PsycoXul | player |
17:19:33 | elinenbe | then I shut off again. |
17:19:41 | Zagor | ah, yes then you have to wait for the disk to spin up and write before you shut it off |
17:20:03 | elinenbe | and it resumed in the last place. Does it update the current track to resume on when it just plays from song to song? |
17:20:13 | Zagor | yes |
17:20:33 | PsycoXul | it saves to rtc on recorders though? |
17:20:34 | elinenbe | I don't know if that is working here... I will try again. |
17:20:47 | Zagor | PsycoXul: yes |
17:21:48 | Zagor | fixed the root problem. it's not a root problem, it's a dir-with-both-folders-and-files problem. |
17:22:12 | Zagor | bad index |
17:23:35 | notch|cod | Off topic: Is there a global tick count? |
17:23:46 | Zagor | yes: current_tick |
17:23:47 | | Nick notch|cod is now known as notch (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) |
17:24:25 | notch | :-) |
17:24:30 | Zagor | how is that off topic, by the way? :) |
17:25:20 | notch | it's not a 'root' problem :-) |
17:25:32 | Zagor | ok, try the new code and see if you can break it |
17:25:58 | elinenbe | dump it to the CVS... Current's Very Shitty :D |
17:26:10 | Zagor | it's there :) |
17:26:32 | elinenbe | I am testing my theory on the play-to-next-song-bug |
17:27:31 | Zagor | when resume works, we kick an 1.3 out the door |
17:27:47 | Zagor | i.e. when we think it works bug free :-) |
17:27:51 | PsycoXul | Zagor: how about if you have it 'on' [to not ask and auto-resume] when you shut off on a playlist >max-auto-resume-playlist-size it saves a bit to say to ask? |
17:28:09 | PsycoXul | or something... |
17:28:12 | elinenbe | got a messed up resume again. |
17:28:19 | PsycoXul | heh |
17:28:22 | elinenbe | not with the new CVS... |
17:28:32 | Zagor | elinenbe: use the new |
17:28:34 | elinenbe | resuming on the next song in the directory now? |
17:28:36 | elinenbe | ok. |
17:29:10 | Zagor | PsycoXul: is it really that painful to say "yeah, i want to resume"? |
17:29:17 | PsycoXul | yes |
17:29:17 | PsycoXul | heh |
17:29:25 | PsycoXul | it's annoying |
17:29:26 | Zagor | don't cd/md players normally resume to paused mode? |
17:29:32 | PsycoXul | i'd much prefer that it just do it |
17:29:36 | PsycoXul | i dunno |
17:29:45 | PsycoXul | the only cd player i've ever seen that resumed did it automatically |
17:29:49 | Zagor | you don't run many big play lists, right? :-) |
17:29:52 | elinenbe | not the one in my car, and not my RioVolt... it just resumes... |
17:30:01 | Zagor | ok. well let's have it a setting |
17:30:12 | PsycoXul | yes |
17:30:12 | Zagor | off/on/ask |
17:30:51 | PsycoXul | if you must, you can warn the user about big playlists if they select the 'on' option :p |
17:31:04 | Zagor | nah. in the manual |
17:31:14 | PsycoXul | ah, of course |
17:32:42 | notch | how often does current tick get inc'd ? 100Hz |
17:32:46 | Zagor | yes |
17:33:22 | elinenbe | just a question, does anyone else have to restart their player or recorder every time they start it up... half the time either nothing come up on the screen, or the screen is completly reversed. |
17:33:39 | Zagor | i've had that on my players, but never on the rec20 |
17:33:51 | PsycoXul | i've never had that |
17:34:01 | elinenbe | or is just my recorded messed up bad. (and by reversed, I mean my screen is a mirror image −− the rockbox logo comes up backwards and everything) |
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17:34:15 | PsycoXul | except when i didn't hold the on button long enough the screen'd stay blank |
17:34:15 | Zagor | yay, cool effect! ;) |
17:34:24 | elinenbe | it sucks... |
17:34:35 | elinenbe | I will get some pictures of it sometimes... |
17:35:09 | elinenbe | I think it only happens when I restart it quickly. |
17:35:19 | elinenbe | Zagor: new CVS seems to work GREEEAT! |
17:35:24 | Zagor | goodie! |
17:35:33 | elinenbe | so far... |
17:35:43 | Zagor | PsycoXul: do you get any more problems with it? |
17:37:07 | PsycoXul | well |
17:37:11 | PsycoXul | when the Resume? comes up |
17:37:18 | elinenbe | I would say for every 5 times I start my recorder, it works 1 out of the 5. |
17:37:22 | PsycoXul | i press + and it acts like i pressed stop... |
17:37:40 | Zagor | PsycoXul: yes. only play is yes. |
17:37:41 | elinenbe | Zagor: messed up here again. Playing the first song again!!!! |
17:37:47 | Zagor | boo |
17:38:11 | elinenbe | Zagor: root directory again. |
17:38:41 | elinenbe | I started song. turned off. resumed okay. let it play through to the very beginning of the next song (8 seconds in) and then shut off. |
17:38:54 | Zagor | which was the previous song? |
17:38:55 | elinenbe | resumed on first song in directory! |
17:39:20 | elinenbe | let's say the first song was numer 32. I then let it play to song 33 |
17:39:28 | elinenbe | just a random song in the root dir. |
17:39:33 | Zagor | and no ffwd+ |
17:39:34 | Zagor | ? |
17:39:48 | elinenbe | I have about 7 folder and 50 songs in the root dir... no ff/rw |
17:40:02 | notch | How does the firmware handle fast forwarding though a track? Had a look a buttons.c but coldn't see it... |
17:41:20 | Zagor | it's handled by wps.c and mpeg.c, not buttons.c |
17:41:31 | notch | Thanks I'll have a look.... |
17:43:15 | elinenbe | I just got some more strange behavior... I start a song (the first in a directory of about 15 −− new Bruce Springsteen album), and then fast forwarded about 1:30 with 10 sec. steps, and it gave me the <End of song list> Press ON, but it keeps playing... even into the next songs. |
17:43:42 | Zagor | yeah, fast forward isn't 100% yet |
17:43:44 | elinenbe | if I press on it goes to the tree, and if I press it again, it returns to the WPS no problem. |
17:44:44 | Zagor | crapola. just repeated your root bug. very strange. |
17:45:02 | PsycoXul | well i got it to resume on the wrong track once again but it's not consistently repeatable |
17:45:36 | PsycoXul | but its always the first track that i resumed on, which is also the first track in the dir i'm testing in |
17:45:56 | Zagor | and you always press pause and let it write? |
17:46:01 | PsycoXul | yeah |
17:46:04 | Zagor | ok |
17:46:06 | elinenbe | It is difficult to repeat. I have tried to and it is quite random. |
17:47:19 | elinenbe | Ahhh, Zagor I see the problem... you need to get the if (rnd(3)==2) {repeat_on_wrong_song();} out of the code! |
17:47:31 | PsycoXul | hehe |
17:47:33 | Zagor | why? I like it! |
17:47:50 | PsycoXul | yeah i just got it again |
17:47:57 | PsycoXul | dunno why though... |
17:48:00 | elinenbe | can you reproduce it? |
17:48:51 | PsycoXul | and ff'ing forward i sometimes get the trackname scrolling over the time |
17:49:05 | PsycoXul | ok backwards too |
17:49:13 | elinenbe | okay.. I have to go. Good luck with everything. later. |
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17:54:31 | PsycoXul | this'll be great for hhgttg |
17:54:44 | PsycoXul | it's nice, it's like extended no-powered pause :p |
17:54:56 | Zagor | yeah |
17:56:07 | PsycoXul | well since i started testing in another directory i haven't been able to reproduce it again yet |
17:57:58 | PsycoXul | oh cool |
17:58:06 | PsycoXul | you made it save pause state between skips too |
17:58:44 | PsycoXul | man i have trouble keeping up using all the features as fast as you guys are coding 'em :p |
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18:02:38 | PsycoXul | but yeah i can't reproduce it again yet... |
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18:20:19 | PsycoXul | i agree with elinenbe's e-mail about the positioning the cursor |
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18:43:56 | * | notch moans mmmnn... diet coke .... |
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22:02:16 | adi|work | anyone else read the 'text entry' email? |
22:02:30 | adi|work | the one speaking about the gameboy mailing he used? |
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22:08:12 | merkisoft | is anyone able to run rockbox with the load-fonts option? |
22:08:32 | merkisoft | i still have a blank screen with it... |
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22:17:21 | BoD[] | Hey ... do you think it would be possible to emit a beep when a key is pressed ? |
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22:20:57 | BoD[] | like car radios do |
22:21:23 | merkisoft | that would be really good - i miss that too |
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22:39:49 | Hes | It'd be pretty hard to do |
22:39:59 | Hes | at least without breaking mp3 playback at the same time |
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23:31:47 | Electrocut | rockbox 1.2 is realy flawless :) |
23:32:48 | Electrocut | I love 'no loading time' m3u launch |
23:35:50 | Electrocut | Hadaka ?? |
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