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01:02:10 | adi|home | Zagor you still around? |
01:02:17 | Zagor | yup |
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01:09:31 | adi|home | k.. can you do me a favor.. |
01:09:42 | Zagor | sure |
01:09:43 | adi|home | send me a better copy of the Haxx logo then is on the website |
01:10:13 | adi|home | ty |
01:10:16 | adi|home | rhak@ramapo.edu |
01:23:10 | Zagor | i don't have it, bagder or linus does I think. |
01:23:29 | Zagor | i'm off to bed. bye! |
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07:49:09 | rwood | LinusN: do you know if any routines will read the disk into a buffer starting on an odd address? |
07:49:43 | LinusN | yes, the mp3 data |
07:50:14 | LinusN | can searcho to an odd byte, and also load to odd addresses |
07:50:43 | LinusN | to prevent gaps between tracks |
07:50:53 | rwood | that is really slow 2.28us vs 1.44us for even word addresses - using C routines |
07:52:18 | rwood | i have the even routine down to 1.08us 25% time reduction - i think that translates to about .25 seconds per mp3 buffer assuming around 1.5 Mb per reload |
07:53:34 | rwood | using inline asm - if i list my temp registers in the clobbered register section, i don't have to save/restore? |
07:54:51 | adi|home | LinusN: can you do me a favor and send me a copy of the Haxx logo? |
07:54:54 | rwood | i can bet the odd down to about 1.5us per word - the swapping is a real hairball |
07:55:31 | LinusN | i think you should declare a temp variable and pass it as an argument, that way you let the compiler take care of the register allocation |
07:56:28 | LinusN | you can declare input register constraints "r+" to use the input register as temp storage |
07:57:45 | LinusN | no, the swapping isn't nice |
07:59:32 | rwood | i'm still fuzzy on the constraints format, i'll work it out. the time savings isn't that great, but it will save power/batteries - do you think it is worth the effort? |
07:59:57 | LinusN | not sure |
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08:00:14 | LinusN | C code is still easier to understand and maintain |
08:00:51 | rwood | the even address is very straight forward |
08:01:41 | rwood | the odd address is not pretty |
08:02:06 | LinusN | i agree. can we make it prettier? |
08:04:28 | rwood | i'm working on it - i save the 1st byte then switch to word stores and switch back to byte for the last byte - the byte placement is completely wrong to make it efficient |
08:05:22 | LinusN | eh? |
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08:06:08 | rwood | high byte/low byte and which bytes want to end up next to each other for a word store |
08:10:55 | rwood | i'll work it out, send it in, and let zagor decide if he likes it |
08:14:18 | LinusN | good |
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08:19:54 | LinusN | yo Bagder! |
08:19:58 | Bagder | hey |
08:20:51 | rwood | there isn't an example of r+ in the online docs that i have found, or in the rockbox code. if the format "r+" as a place holder then %x to reference it? |
08:21:03 | rwood | is |
08:22:15 | LinusN | rwood: thread.c |
08:22:38 | LinusN | load_context() |
08:23:17 | LinusN | i use the register to save the regs, and then as a temp reg for the PR |
08:28:07 | rwood | thanks, i think i see how to do it |
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08:48:37 | bobTHC | good morning all !!!!! |
08:49:09 | LinusN | morning |
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09:02:11 | LinusN | hehe |
09:02:25 | LinusN | i am trying to debug the remote control code |
09:02:42 | Bagder | any fun? ;-) |
09:03:01 | LinusN | to see why we have problems with cassette adapters and insertion/extraction of ear plugs |
09:03:19 | LinusN | people claim that the archos original fw handles it well |
09:03:39 | LinusN | well, maybe they just didn't try it... :-) |
09:04:24 | adi|home | okay.. bagder/linus |
09:04:26 | LinusN | i jiggled the ear plug connector while playing and the archos froze completely! :-) |
09:04:31 | adi|home | im running 2.4.18 |
09:04:38 | adi|home | and installed a belkin usb2 card |
09:04:44 | adi|home | but my system isn't finding it on boot... |
09:04:45 | LinusN | oh, i run the latest daily build |
09:04:46 | adi|home | ideas? |
09:04:47 | LinusN | :-) |
09:04:56 | adi|home | lest kudzu isn't saying anything |
09:05:22 | Bagder | adi|home: have you applied the usb2 patch? |
09:05:41 | adi|home | usb2 patch? |
09:05:52 | adi|home | doh.. sorry.. typo |
09:05:53 | Bagder | yeah, 2.4.18 needs a patch you grok usb2 |
09:05:54 | adi|home | 2.4.19 |
09:05:57 | Bagder | ah |
09:06:19 | adi|home | how can i see if the card is actually being found? |
09:06:25 | Bagder | lspci |
09:07:06 | adi|home | are you using the belkin card? |
09:07:10 | Bagder | yes |
09:07:15 | adi|home | okay.. |
09:07:21 | adi|home | my old usb plug is showing up. |
09:07:30 | adi|home | namely the ones on the motherboard |
09:07:42 | adi|home | 00:04.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UHCI USB (rev 11) |
09:07:58 | Bagder | and no other? |
09:08:01 | Bagder | 00:0c.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 41) |
09:08:04 | adi|home | nope |
09:08:59 | LinusN | adi|home: how do you load the ehci-usb driver? |
09:09:05 | LinusN | module? |
09:09:08 | adi|home | nope |
09:09:11 | adi|home | its part of the kernel |
09:09:12 | Bagder | it should find it before it tries to use the module |
09:09:17 | adi|home | im too lazy to futz with modules |
09:09:42 | Bagder | I couldn't get my stuff to work properly without using modules |
09:09:46 | adi|home | unless i screwed the config up... |
09:09:49 | LinusN | me neither |
09:09:49 | adi|home | grr... okay... |
09:10:01 | Bagder | but lspci should still detect the card |
09:10:11 | adi|home | anyone feel like offering me a url to how to make use of modules or walk me through it? |
09:10:25 | adi|home | hmm... maybe a bad port? |
09:10:45 | Bagder | perhaps |
09:11:59 | Bagder | adi|home: making modules is just a matter of setting 'm' in the kernel config, then 'make modules' and 'make modules_install' |
09:12:09 | adi|home | got ya.. |
09:12:24 | Bagder | then, have the archos connected before you load the module |
09:16:50 | adi|home | which uhci am i to use? |
09:17:10 | Bagder | ehci-hcd |
09:17:28 | Bagder | then usb-storage |
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09:28:35 | bobTHC | what the deal with the id: LANG_HIDDEN... in english.lang ? |
09:29:15 | bobTHC | no more string to translate ? |
09:29:25 | LinusN | i think those are obsolete strings |
09:29:34 | bobTHC | eng: "" ? |
09:30:01 | LinusN | yes, if we remove it the id's change, and we don't want that |
09:30:02 | bobTHC | what i do? i clear the new: " " too ? |
09:30:13 | LinusN | you don't translate it |
09:30:59 | bobTHC | ok... |
09:31:39 | LinusN | the serial interface must be polled |
09:32:02 | LinusN | otherwise we get an Rx ERR interrupt every 10 bits |
09:32:13 | LinusN | that's every millisecond! |
09:32:21 | Bagder | ugha |
09:32:33 | LinusN | sorry, 10ms |
09:32:47 | LinusN | no, 1ms |
09:32:54 | LinusN | badness |
09:33:32 | LinusN | the downside is that we need a polling interrupt at the same frequency :-) |
09:34:33 | LinusN | we may need a different approcah for the remote control |
09:34:59 | LinusN | for instance, i don't think the remote can send faster than every 10ms |
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09:35:03 | * | bobTHC have commit francais.lang |
09:36:04 | LinusN | so we can probably poll every 10ms and don't miss any characters |
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09:54:09 | LinusN | should there be any priority between the remote control and the keypad? |
09:54:50 | Bagder | like in what case? |
09:55:28 | LinusN | when fiddling with the remote and the keypad at the same time |
09:56:10 | LinusN | and should we send BUTTON_RELEASE events for every remote button press? |
09:56:27 | Bagder | no idea |
09:56:33 | LinusN | i think we should |
09:56:42 | LinusN | for compatibility |
09:57:02 | LinusN | two events for every keypress |
09:57:21 | LinusN | but we don't do it today, so i should probably wait until post 1.4 for that |
09:57:28 | Bagder | yeah |
09:58:01 | LinusN | i'll just add the polling to the button handler |
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10:04:14 | adi|home | hey Zagor |
10:04:14 | adi|home | that was a short sleep |
10:08:27 | Zagor | nah, almost 8 hours :-) |
10:28:02 | LinusN | the remote control code is becoming trickier and trickier... |
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10:28:32 | Zagor | LinusN: why? |
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10:29:46 | Zagor | LinusN: why? |
10:30:31 | LinusN | the receiver gives framing errors everi ms when ordinary headphones are attached (grounded rx pin) |
10:30:47 | Zagor | oh. fun... |
10:31:26 | LinusN | indeed, an interrupt every millisecond |
10:31:39 | LinusN | i am changing now, t poll in the button driver |
10:32:11 | LinusN | the remote won't send faster that 1/HZ anyway |
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10:53:33 | LinusN | ok, the remote control code is much more stable now |
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10:55:51 | LinusN | i urge all remote control owners to try the new code |
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11:10:19 | LinusN | i'm thinking about the recording UI |
11:10:36 | LinusN | all those settings for sampling rate, quality, stereo/mono... |
11:10:57 | LinusN | should those be ordinary settings, or some fast-menus in the recording screen? |
11:12:02 | Zagor | both, probably. default settings in the menu and then possible to adjust in the recording screen. |
11:15:52 | LinusN | maybe we should pre-release the recording code without disk saving, just to get a head start on the UI? |
11:16:24 | LinusN | in the debug menu |
11:16:28 | LinusN | or something |
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11:51:11 | notch | was the serial remote code causing some people problems? |
11:55:17 | Zagor | yes, it was sending bogus key events |
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12:09:01 | notch | mmnn bugger...never had a problem myself. Guess I should have make it more robust... |
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12:15:35 | notch | Anyone know how may Archos devices there are out there? |
12:16:00 | notch | many |
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13:09:26 | Bagder | notch: I don't think that info is public |
13:32:09 | mem_ | Bagder: I'll get my recorder tomorrow afternoon |
13:32:23 | Bagder | wooo |
13:33:45 | Bagder | so, you setup your crosscompiler yet? B) |
13:33:47 | mem_ | I'm really looking forward to that. I have a 12 GB DLT backup that I could restore directly to the Recorder... |
13:33:58 | Bagder | :-) |
13:34:02 | Bagder | you have usb2? |
13:34:26 | mem_ | no, I haven't setup my compiler. Haven't had thet time. Just bought a house in Norrtälje... |
13:34:38 | Bagder | ah |
13:34:48 | mem_ | I don't know if I have USB2 |
13:35:27 | mem_ | Is there a easy way to know if it is USB or USB2 in the computer? |
13:36:01 | Bagder | I don't know |
13:36:30 | Hes | Load the ehci-hcd module, it'll tell you in dmesg if it finds the device... |
13:37:30 | mem_ | Hes: okay, thanks |
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13:41:30 | mem_ | Hes: I don't see any text about USB2 but usb-uhci says "High bandwidth mode enabled" |
13:42:04 | mem_ | Hes, Bagder: This is my office computer, has to check the machine at home too |
13:43:22 | Bagder | what usb controller is it? |
13:43:33 | Bagder | as shown by 'lspci' |
13:45:48 | mem_ | Bagder: The office machine has a "VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B USB (rev 10)" controller |
13:46:01 | Bagder | 00:04.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B USB (rev 08) |
13:46:09 | Bagder | that's my 1.1 one |
13:46:27 | Bagder | the 2.0 is almost exclusively NEC ones |
13:46:45 | mem_ | Bagder: So I have to hope that my machine at home has USB2 then... |
13:46:51 | Bagder | yeah |
13:47:04 | Bagder | a separate usb2 card is cheap enough otherwise |
13:47:28 | mem_ | Bagder: Okay, and if I remember correctly I have a VIA motherboard at home too :-( |
13:47:33 | Bagder | but usb2 isn't in the linux kernel before 2.4.19 |
13:48:43 | mem_ | Bagder: Okay. I'm still running 2.2.xx. I haven't done much about my machines lately. Most time spent on playing with OpenBSD... |
13:49:14 | Bagder | caveman! ;-) |
13:49:19 | mem_ | :;-) |
13:50:20 | mem_ | And OpenBSD don't have support for the latest hardware... But rock solid, which is good for a caveman :-) |
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14:19:35 | matsl | Bagder: any progress on the uisimulator since friday or is it just for me to jump in? |
14:20:30 | Bagder | I haven't touched anything there |
14:20:37 | Bagder | go go go :-) |
14:21:36 | matsl | ok |
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16:12:59 | calpefrosch | hello |
16:13:32 | bobTHC | hi |
16:14:13 | calpefrosch | i have a problem building the simulator under linux, can u help me ? |
16:15:17 | bobTHC | ouch.. I never use the sim sorry.. |
16:15:59 | calpefrosch | maybe anybody else, i get a lot if warnings and one error in the lang.c - file, do you know ? |
16:16:16 | Zagor | calpefrosch: how did you try building? |
16:16:50 | calpefrosch | like in the docs/uisimulator described |
16:17:00 | calpefrosch | with make |
16:18:28 | Zagor | in a separate target dir? |
16:19:13 | calpefrosch | yes |
16:20:10 | Zagor | and what errors do you get? |
16:20:13 | calpefrosch | ok, I tried language "Deutsch", with english I get another error |
16:20:28 | calpefrosch | error : ../../tools/convbdf: Command not found |
16:20:47 | Zagor | you need to run make in the tools dir first |
16:21:23 | calpefrosch | ok, I see. It is seperated.. |
16:22:16 | calpefrosch | know it is working. many tnx |
16:22:22 | Zagor | ok, good |
16:22:40 | calpefrosch | but, should i try to build the german version ? |
16:22:46 | calpefrosch | maybe there is a problem ? |
16:22:48 | Zagor | you can if you want |
16:22:53 | Zagor | it should work |
16:23:33 | calpefrosch | no, is doesn't. here the error: |
16:24:14 | calpefrosch | "/usr/src/cvs/build-dir/lang.c:4: warning: array `language_strings' assumed to have one element |
16:24:14 | calpefrosch | make[1]: *** [/usr/src/cvs/build-dir/lang.o] Error 1 |
16:24:14 | calpefrosch | make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/cvs/uisimulator/x11' |
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16:24:14 | calpefrosch | make: *** [sim] Error 2 |
16:25:50 | Zagor | ah, right. the string '[Song Nr.]' has no closing quote |
16:25:57 | Zagor | error in the deutsch.lang file |
16:26:12 | calpefrosch | ok, du you fix it |
16:26:16 | Zagor | yup |
16:26:22 | calpefrosch | tnx |
16:26:31 | calpefrosch | bye |
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16:29:12 | bobTHC | PsycoXu |
16:29:40 | bobTHC | sorry (crazy keyboard)... |
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16:59:41 | matsl | Zagor: whats the relation between font definition and pattern definition for player. Seems to be rotated? |
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17:00:44 | `frog | just wondering if I can get some help with installation? |
17:00:54 | langhaarrocker | of what? |
17:01:06 | Zagor | matsl: yes, patterns are row-by-row. fonts are column-by-column. i think. |
17:01:20 | matsl | do we have any built in conversion function? |
17:01:42 | `frog | I've got a jb6000 and put archos.mod in the root (deleting the original) but it just boots up to the ROM firmware- why? |
17:01:59 | Zagor | matsl: no. we don't share data for players and recorders |
17:02:12 | Zagor | `frog: good question |
17:02:17 | langhaarrocker | It first boots the rom firmware and then it should load rockbox |
17:02:35 | matsl | Zagor: in th uisimulator we do ;-) |
17:02:46 | Zagor | matsl: ah, right |
17:03:01 | matsl | ok. I'll roll my own. |
17:04:06 | langhaarrocker | 'frog: If not you |
17:04:06 | langhaarrocker | 1) misspelled the archos.mod |
17:04:06 | langhaarrocker | 2) put it somewhere wrong |
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17:04:06 | langhaarrocker | 3) have a strangly broken device |
17:04:32 | `frog | just have it returned from archos... |
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17:04:38 | * | `frog rechecks spelling... |
17:05:18 | `frog | spelling is fine |
17:05:20 | `frog | :| |
17:05:38 | langhaarrocker | and it is in the root of the drive? |
17:06:00 | `frog | its in f:\ |
17:06:26 | langhaarrocker | Then I have no idea |
17:07:21 | `frog | hmmm |
17:08:22 | langhaarrocker | You're sure you don't accidently have a recorder? :) |
17:09:11 | `frog | lol |
17:09:16 | `frog | I wish |
17:10:31 | langhaarrocker | What does the jukebox do when it's feed with a broken rockbox file? |
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17:13:02 | frog | will it help if it try reformatting the drive? |
17:13:15 | langhaarrocker | I doubt. |
17:13:32 | langhaarrocker | Have you tried different original archos firmware files? |
17:14:38 | frog | I have previously updated the firmware |
17:15:03 | frog | shall I try doing that again |
17:15:10 | langhaarrocker | If that worked there's no reason why rockbox doesn't |
17:15:33 | frog | hmm |
17:15:53 | frog | I'll try updating it with the archos firmware to see if that works now |
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17:19:58 | langhaarrocker | I must go now |
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17:31:32 | frog | anybody about? |
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18:57:04 | elinenbe | hello |
18:57:32 | elinenbe | the page up/down patch is the best thing to happen to the jukebox since it came out! |
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20:25:28 | elinenbe | hey, maybe someone here can help me. Where is the bootlog stored in linux? |
20:25:42 | Bagder | /var/log/dmesg |
20:26:09 | elinenbe | Bagder: thanks. |
20:26:21 | elinenbe | Bagder: I like reading them while I am on the toilet |
20:26:29 | Bagder | hahaha |
20:26:54 | elinenbe | I print them out in 4pt text too. I hate wasting paper, but it kills my eyes. |
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20:39:20 | elinenbe | Zagor and Bagder disagree yet again... whoo hoo! |
20:39:30 | elinenbe | sybling rivalry |
20:39:35 | Bagder | yeah |
20:40:14 | elinenbe | commit the txt viewer patch :) |
20:40:16 | elinenbe | that is fun! |
20:40:39 | Bagder | I want to check the code first |
20:41:02 | Bagder | you tried it on target? |
20:44:10 | elinenbe | I haven't −− my cygwin died a quick death. I have to reconfigure everything first |
20:44:15 | elinenbe | I'll get to it later today. |
20:44:18 | Bagder | ouch |
20:44:20 | elinenbe | work is pretty busy |
20:44:59 | elinenbe | well, if you get around to committing it, then give a holler. I would love to try it out. |
20:45:10 | Bagder | I'll let you know |
20:45:24 | elinenbe | I do like the pg up/down patch −− very nice for those directories with 1000+ files ;) |
20:46:22 | Bagder | I haven't tried that one yet ;-) |
20:52:09 | * | Bagder builds with the text viewer |
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21:03:17 | Bagder | looks good |
21:03:25 | elinenbe | sounds exciting. |
21:03:34 | Bagder | I'm gonna commit this |
21:03:51 | elinenbe | great. I'll download the latest build in 20 min or so... |
21:04:04 | elinenbe | can you DCC? |
21:04:25 | Bagder | no |
21:04:47 | elinenbe | could you email the build to elinenbe at umich.edu? |
21:05:09 | elinenbe | that would be ad Bill & Ted say "most excellent dude!" |
21:05:33 | Bagder | http://storebror.haxx.se/archos/ |
21:06:01 | Bagder | freshly built |
21:06:19 | elinenbe | great! |
21:08:51 | elinenbe | it is great. |
21:09:00 | Bagder | its really neat |
21:09:07 | Bagder | I'd like a word-wrap option though |
21:09:27 | elinenbe | could use pg up/down/left/right |
21:09:40 | elinenbe | needs an icon! |
21:09:46 | Bagder | ah, right |
21:11:32 | elinenbe | almost done resizing my partitions! |
21:13:33 | elinenbe | the text viewer is exceptionally cool with large or small fonts. |
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21:18:40 | frog | is there a way to shuffle between directories? |
21:18:54 | Bagder | only with playlists so far |
21:19:05 | frog | ok thanks |
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22:02:57 | regin | how does one install fonts- I've put them in a folder but they don't come up on the screen of my jb6k |
22:03:21 | langhaarrocker | try to "play" them with your browser |
22:03:40 | regin | when I goto the folder - its empty |
22:04:01 | | Nick Zagor|away is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
22:04:01 | langhaarrocker | Hit F2 and select not to filter the dir |
22:04:10 | Zagor | regin: only recorders support fonts |
22:04:19 | regin | aha ok thanks |
22:04:34 | * | regin was looking forward to the games aswell ;) |
22:04:47 | langhaarrocker | only for recorders :( |
22:04:58 | regin | yup |
22:05:09 | regin | might have to upgrade sometime |
22:05:12 | regin | just gotta find the cash |
22:06:02 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: btw - these fonts are another feature that are needed as much as user assignable keys :) |
22:06:27 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: yup. but they're a lot easier to implement, so someone did |
22:07:30 | langhaarrocker | seems I have to be the someone to break the ground for key assignment. But that's what I expected. |
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22:10:41 | langhaarrocker | I thought about the elapsed time problem with changed pitch and read something in the MAS docu about a frame counter. But it seems that it resets itself frequently. The docu says that this happens when it receives sick data. Can that be the reason? |
22:11:18 | langhaarrocker | I don't believe all my mp3s contain so much rubbish |
22:11:29 | Zagor | the frame counter is not very useful anyway since frames can be of different length |
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22:13:56 | langhaarrocker | I know. But the mas also provides some header info of the frame. Thus the overkill idea was wether we can catch all those infos and sum it up. Yes I know it's not a good idea, but it is one. :( |
22:14:50 | langhaarrocker | Especially lacking of connected SYNC pins. |
22:14:54 | quique | Hello everyone, just dropped by here to ask a possibly stupid question (not in the faq yet) |
22:15:02 | Zagor | quique: shoot |
22:15:15 | * | langhaarrocker ducking again |
22:15:25 | quique | I want to compile rockbox with the spanish.lng messages |
22:15:57 | langhaarrocker | Install cygwin, the sh1 compiler, run configure -> voila |
22:16:05 | quique | what is what I am supposed to do ? i saw that there is not build time setting |
22:16:12 | quique | I do have sh1 cross compiler working ok |
22:16:21 | quique | I have been compiling rockbox since quite a while now |
22:16:23 | Zagor | quique: it's simpler to just download espanol.lng and copy it to /.rockbox/default.lng |
22:16:26 | quique | under linux |
22:16:34 | quique | thanks zagor |
22:17:17 | quique | when you mean /rockbox/default.lng you mean the root of the rockbox distribution , so cd firmware/.. , right ? |
22:17:32 | langhaarrocker | or edit the generated makefile and replace the LANGUAGE=english with your preferred lang |
22:17:50 | quique | so there is a compile time setting, thanks guys |
22:18:15 | Zagor | quique: you are using tools/configure, right? |
22:19:32 | quique | wow, no I just did :) |
22:19:32 | quique | this is new to me |
22:19:48 | quique | I have been using the same old Makefile for a while now , haha |
22:19:53 | Zagor | boo :-) |
22:20:11 | langhaarrocker | I couldn't live without tools/configure any more. |
22:22:52 | quique | tools/configure should be able to add /usr/local/sh1/bin to my PATH |
22:24:22 | langhaarrocker | I put |
22:24:23 | langhaarrocker | export PATH="${PATH}:/home/perterm/sh1/bin" |
22:24:23 | langhaarrocker | into my .bashrc That helped |
22:24:25 | Zagor | quique: no it can't. a child process cannot change the environment for its parent |
22:24:56 | quique | yep yep, but the CC can be defined with a full path in the Makefile |
22:25:57 | Zagor | yeah, it could |
22:26:28 | langhaarrocker | is /usr/local the normal place to install sh1 to? |
22:26:30 | quique | do you want detailled specs ? |
22:26:50 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: yes |
22:26:57 | Zagor | quique: ? |
22:27:31 | quique | I mean functional specs , how configure should find the correct path for sh-gcc |
22:27:36 | quique | just joking |
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22:29:32 | elinenbe | http://rockbox.haxx.se/TODO can be updated now. |
22:29:43 | quique | configure failed to create lang.c and lang.h , I had to run genlan manually |
22:29:58 | elinenbe | a few of the things there have been completed |
22:30:01 | quique | just checking why |
22:37:39 | quique | oh, configure didnt run genlan, ok |
22:37:43 | quique | all: firmware apps lang |
22:37:43 | quique | langhaarrocker: lang.c lang.h |
22:37:43 | quique | tools/genlang tools/language/$(LANGUAGE).lng |
22:38:06 | Zagor | quique: configure is not supposed to run that. apps/Makefile does it |
22:38:13 | quique | oh my god |
22:38:40 | quique | apps/Makefile |
22:38:53 | quique | still has LANGUAGE=english |
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22:39:28 | elinenbe | the wind today feels like 1.4 is on the way |
22:39:30 | langhaarrocker | does configure change apps/Makefile? |
22:40:05 | Zagor | quique: that is overridden by your build/Makefile |
22:40:18 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: no, but it passes parameters to it |
22:41:33 | elinenbe | I think 1.4 will blow most people away. |
22:41:36 | quique | the messages are compiled in the archos.mod right ? so I am not supposed to add any additional file to my jukebox besides archos.mod, right ? |
22:41:45 | elinenbe | there should be a feature lock today. |
22:41:49 | elinenbe | only bug fixes. |
22:42:10 | Zagor | quique: the ones you compile-in are compiled in. you can load other languages runtime. |
22:42:15 | elinenbe | langhaarrocker: I thought the old peak meter looked much better then the current one. |
22:42:41 | Zagor | elinenbe: we pretty much have that. but the text viewer was so simple (and wanted) that we slipped it in anyway |
22:42:49 | elinenbe | langhaarrocker: maybe it was my font. |
22:43:10 | langhaarrocker | The font only changes the height of the meter. |
22:43:20 | elinenbe | Zagor: implenet page up/down/left/right for the text viewer and that would make the box really rock |
22:44:00 | elinenbe | langhaarrocker: it looks worse with smalltalkmonofont |
22:44:09 | elinenbe | that font is too small for it. |
22:44:19 | elinenbe | it looks great with the current font however. |
22:44:25 | elinenbe | s/current/default |
22:44:34 | Zagor | elinenbe: right, pgup/pgdn should be in it |
22:45:36 | quique | awsome ! rockbox speaks spanish ! |
22:45:47 | elinenbe | Zagor: I think stuff like quickmenus should be fixed to default font. |
22:46:08 | Zagor | elinenbe: yes, i agree. |
22:47:37 | elinenbe | everything needs to be check with largest max font and smallest avaible font too. |
22:48:16 | elinenbe | I am writing my own superblocks to my drive. |
22:48:31 | langhaarrocker | In large fonts? |
22:49:08 | elinenbe | langhaarrocker: on my linux box. |
22:49:25 | langhaarrocker | What do you store there? |
22:52:47 | elinenbe | langhaarrocker: I do all my finite element analysis there. |
22:52:51 | elinenbe | LS-DYNA |
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22:53:32 | langhaarrocker | Ok, I won't even ask. |
22:55:19 | langhaarrocker | Text browser is cool. When will it understand html? :) |
22:55:26 | elinenbe | http://www.lstc.com/pages/products/ls-dyna/index.html |
22:58:03 | quique | the font for the Player modern LCD is the 6x9 and that doesnt contain asc > 127 , is that correct ? |
22:58:54 | Zagor | quique: it contains >127, but they are not iso8859-1 |
22:59:51 | quique | I see. is 6x10 8859-1 ? |
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23:00:14 | quique | yes it is. |
23:00:19 | langhaarrocker | gotta sleep. cu |
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23:11:15 | | Join minute [0] (wunder@dclient217-162-236-15.hispeed.ch) |
23:11:19 | minute | hello |
23:11:26 | minute | can anybody help a newbie? |
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23:12:21 | minute | helo django |
23:12:29 | Django | hi minute |
23:12:41 | minute | can you help me on my new archos? |
23:12:55 | Django | maybe, try :-) |
23:13:05 | Django | what model? |
23:13:05 | minute | im a mac user |
23:13:22 | Django | Ah, what is a mac? |
23:13:24 | minute | it the recorder 20 |
23:13:44 | Django | Is this a mac question or an archos question? |
23:13:53 | minute | both :) |
23:13:59 | Django | Go ahead |
23:14:13 | minute | well, its delievered with a usb 2.0 cable |
23:14:23 | minute | can i plug that in just like that? |
23:14:35 | minute | cuz my imac just has a usb 1.0 device |
23:14:44 | Zagor | minute: the cables are the same |
23:15:02 | Django | yes, and usb 2.0 is backward compatible. |
23:15:06 | minute | or dodo i need a device or something? |
23:15:08 | Zagor | yup |
23:15:17 | minute | like what? |
23:15:17 | Zagor | minute: just plug it in |
23:15:21 | minute | i did |
23:15:38 | minute | on the package it says i need usb manager 1.2 |
23:15:59 | minute | but thats included in mac os 9,1 |
23:16:12 | minute | it drives me crazy |
23:16:42 | Zagor | minute: so you're saying it doesn't work? |
23:16:48 | minute | yes indeed |
23:17:00 | minute | theres no mounting up |
23:17:07 | Django | minute: sorry, never seen an imac. i'm out. |
23:17:16 | minute | it just shows the usb sign on the archos |
23:17:41 | minute | django, dont be so disrespective ;) |
23:17:52 | minute | we mac-users are humans too |
23:18:12 | Django | this is germany. I don't know anybody who has a mac. |
23:18:12 | Zagor | which macos do you have? |
23:18:35 | minute | germany? here is switzerland |
23:18:37 | Django | did I say something wrong? |
23:18:42 | minute | iv got 9.1 |
23:19:23 | minute | think i need to update to 9.2? |
23:20:06 | Zagor | i don't know. i've never used a mac either :-) |
23:20:15 | Django | Ha! |
23:20:34 | Django | minute: seems you are on your own. |
23:20:55 | minute | :( |
23:21:05 | Django | I've heard there are many Cadillacs in Switzerland? True? |
23:21:11 | Zagor | minute: join the archosjukebox6000 group on yahoo.com. there has to be more mac users there. |
23:21:23 | minute | my boss has a cadillac |
23:21:35 | minute | i joined that group |
23:22:01 | minute | theres also a good forum just for mac users, but no help |
23:22:13 | minute | i think i have to throw my archos away |
23:22:25 | Django | Strange. Do you have other usb devices? |
23:22:36 | minute | yes |
23:22:41 | minute | a cd burner |
23:22:48 | minute | and a digicam |
23:23:02 | Django | Ah well, what about keep the archos and throwing the ma.... |
23:23:04 | Zagor | there are many people who use archos on mac |
23:23:10 | minute | i know |
23:23:18 | minute | but maybe its not my day today |
23:23:29 | minute | my football teams are also losing |
23:23:36 | Zagor | :-) |
23:23:43 | minute | maybe i should call it a day |
23:23:49 | Django | You have a football team of your own? :-) |
23:23:57 | minute | but on the other hand i cant sleep without solving this shit |
23:24:08 | minute | no, the teams i support :) |
23:24:41 | Django | Maybe you can find a PC, just to check that the archos is working ok. |
23:24:44 | minute | well, forget my archos problems, lets talk something else |
23:25:04 | minute | where to get mp3s |
23:25:08 | Django | I just came here looking for linus. |
23:25:38 | minute | linus? |
23:25:55 | Zagor | Django: why linus? |
23:26:13 | minute | arghh..im pissed |
23:26:28 | Django | I sent some diffs to him re dynamic queue. |
23:26:31 | minute | my mac ruins my nerves |
23:27:01 | Zagor | Django: you should send them to the patch tracker instead |
23:27:01 | Django | He sent me a nice email and I wanted to know if he has any suggestions. |
23:27:15 | minute | django, what did u pay for your archos in germany? |
23:27:58 | Django | Yes, please forgive me. Got my archos, found rockbox, got the compiler, got cvs and sent a diff. all in one week. |
23:28:10 | Django | eur 290 |
23:28:16 | Zagor | Django: nice going :-) |
23:28:20 | minute | 290? the recorder? |
23:28:27 | Django | recorder 10 |
23:28:30 | minute | aha |
23:28:42 | minute | i paid for the rec 20 400 euro |
23:28:59 | Django | zagor: I'm an old hacker :-) yesterday I got 48 years old. |
23:29:09 | Django | Got my first computer in 1978. |
23:29:18 | Zagor | Django: :) |
23:29:20 | minute | well i got my first computer in 1982 |
23:29:28 | minute | it was a c64 |
23:29:47 | Django | I still have it. started with 512 bytes of ram. |
23:30:02 | minute | :) |
23:30:06 | Django | I skipped that. started with an 8080 then z80. |
23:30:13 | minute | thats incredible, isnt it? |
23:30:24 | minute | 512 bytes |
23:30:34 | minute | even a word doc has more these days |
23:30:46 | Django | minute: look around on www.ebay.de , search for archos. |
23:31:01 | minute | what for? i already got one |
23:31:09 | minute | or shall i sell mine? :) |
23:31:31 | Django | zagor: do you have a feel for the cpu power of the archos? Is it like a z80 at 4 mhz ? :-) |
23:31:32 | minute | i made a desperate buy today |
23:31:46 | Django | minute: that was just for price comparison. |
23:32:07 | minute | nah, forget price comparisons, it would make me feel depressed |
23:32:19 | Django | minute: relax, in a few weeks the money is forgotten. |
23:32:20 | minute | im already pissed |
23:32:32 | minute | but django, are u happy with it? |
23:32:41 | Django | I LOVE it !! |
23:32:45 | minute | true? |
23:32:52 | Django | Was my birthday present. |
23:32:57 | minute | :) |
23:33:05 | minute | i have birthday in a month |
23:33:22 | Django | Yes. I have waited for a long time for such a device. |
23:33:31 | minute | the main thing i bought it for is to make hard disc recordings |
23:33:44 | minute | to put all my records on mp3 |
23:33:55 | minute | i already have about 8000 mp3s |
23:34:10 | minute | their all on cds now |
23:34:25 | minute | what myfreinds? |
23:34:26 | Django | zagor: rockbox just crashed while playing. |
23:34:49 | minute | django, you know a good trading place for mp3? |
23:35:04 | Django | get a copy of winmx |
23:35:05 | Zagor | Django: what symptoms? |
23:35:18 | minute | winmix? not for mac |
23:35:25 | Django | I=9:CPUAdrEr |
23:35:29 | Django | I=9:CPUAdrEr |
23:35:34 | Zagor | bad |
23:35:34 | Django | I09:CPUAdrEr |
23:35:37 | minute | nah, i think those p2p programs are over |
23:36:00 | minute | i think you have to join special interest groups |
23:36:10 | minute | where you can swap one on one |
23:36:14 | Django | this message is about as useful as Dr.Whatson :-) |
23:36:27 | | Quit quique ("this message is about as useful as Dr.Whatson :-)") |
23:36:28 | minute | watson without h |
23:36:29 | Django | winmx is not p2p |
23:36:41 | minute | i dont know winmx |
23:36:49 | minute | im a macer, remember :) |
23:36:57 | Django | Fortunately the Dr. is not listening |
23:37:00 | minute | we just have limewire left |
23:37:05 | Zagor | Django: :-) |
23:37:09 | Django | Uh, sorry. |
23:37:28 | minute | what music youre into django? |
23:37:33 | minute | krautrock? ;) |
23:38:00 | Django | I think there are about 30 million PCs sold per year. No other platform can beat that. |
23:38:16 | minute | its not the quantity, django |
23:38:23 | minute | its a way of thinking |
23:38:31 | minute | thats why im into mac |
23:38:40 | minute | were different |
23:38:50 | Django | I'm almost 50, so its rock 'n roll. 60ties. etc. |
23:38:56 | Django | definitely? |
23:38:58 | minute | aha, you like beat? |
23:39:10 | Django | it depends |
23:39:17 | minute | you know the zombies? |
23:39:31 | Django | no. what kinda music is that? |
23:39:31 | minute | their one of my favorite beat bands |
23:39:51 | minute | well its straight beat, but very pop |
23:39:51 | Django | one moment. I'll check it out. |
23:40:04 | minute | their biggest hit was "time of the season" |
23:40:17 | minute | or "she's not there" |
23:40:20 | Django | british group? |
23:40:24 | minute | yes of course |
23:40:42 | minute | they were underestimated at their time |
23:40:52 | minute | but made some faboulus albums |
23:41:14 | minute | for me they are as important as the beatles and the kinks |
23:41:25 | Django | ok, download has started. |
23:41:31 | minute | where? |
23:41:34 | minute | :( |
23:41:44 | minute | i want audiogalaxy back! |
23:41:52 | Django | winmx |
23:41:55 | minute | which song are u downloading? |
23:42:02 | Django | t.o.seasons |
23:42:07 | minute | okay :) |
23:42:08 | Zagor | AG was good |
23:42:17 | minute | well lemme tell you there...*sings* |
23:42:29 | minute | AG was heaven |
23:42:41 | minute | fucking IAAR |
23:42:52 | Django | sorry, cancelled that. Not my taste. |
23:42:58 | minute | really? |
23:42:59 | minute | why? |
23:43:09 | Django | Try "Tiger" by Fabian :-) |
23:43:17 | minute | whats that? |
23:43:21 | minute | schlager? |
23:43:31 | Django | Roc'n Roll |
23:43:42 | minute | german? |
23:43:57 | Django | Or try Eagles - Take it easy |
23:44:05 | Django | Nice for driving |
23:44:06 | minute | okay i know that one |
23:44:28 | minute | steve miller band |
23:44:31 | minute | fly like an eagle |
23:44:42 | Django | The Eagles are still on tour in SoCal this year! |
23:44:49 | minute | where u from in germany django? |
23:45:15 | minute | well they eagles could call themselves zombies now :) |
23:45:20 | Django | Paderborn |
23:45:31 | minute | paderborn? thats in the north? |
23:45:51 | minute | i used to live in dusseldorf |
23:46:10 | Django | It is about 100km east of Dortmund |
23:46:26 | minute | realy? |
23:46:37 | minute | its in the east? |
23:46:48 | Django | Don't trust me? Go to www.mapquest.com |
23:46:54 | minute | i believe you |
23:47:06 | minute | youre the german |
23:47:26 | Django | By the way: wanna see my Cadillac? |
23:47:31 | minute | no :) |
23:47:36 | minute | im not into cars |
23:47:53 | minute | i dont have a car myself |
23:48:03 | minute | just my archos and my mac |
23:48:13 | minute | and some records |
23:48:31 | Django | We have five jukeboxes here. |
23:48:46 | minute | oh cool |
23:48:50 | Django | I mean REAL jukeboxes. Seeburg, Rock-O-La and AMI. |
23:49:02 | Django | built 1957 to 1960 |
23:49:03 | minute | but it isnt good for the 45s |
23:49:10 | minute | it wears them out too much |
23:49:28 | minute | i wouldnt do that to my 45s |
23:49:33 | Django | I don't think so. Tracking on the Seeburg is about 5 grams. |
23:49:53 | minute | my friend told me who has a wurlitzer at home |
23:49:55 | Django | I have about 600 45's |
23:50:04 | minute | i only got about 100 |
23:50:06 | Django | most of them from flea markets |
23:50:11 | minute | mostly soul music |
23:50:18 | Django | What's your age? |
23:50:21 | minute | 32 |
23:50:37 | minute | and im a soulboy |
23:50:38 | Django | So it makes a difference |
23:50:44 | minute | well, a bit |
23:51:06 | minute | you can check out my mp3s at www.hoenicke.ch if you would like to |
23:51:14 | Django | It's almost midnight. have to go now. |
23:51:20 | minute | me too |
23:51:26 | minute | start a new job tomorrow |
23:51:37 | minute | it was nice talking to you |
23:51:52 | minute | mach dem joshka keine schande |
23:52:00 | minute | :) |
23:52:17 | Django | ok, see u later , |
23:52:22 | minute | bye |
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