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| 03:38:28 | diddystar5 | could someone send me a newest recording build please :) |
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| 08:12:49 | dwihno | Oh, I see recording is in! Cool shiznat! :D |
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| 08:35:15 | Bagder | morning linus |
| 08:35:20 | LinusN | morning |
| 08:35:36 | dwihno | I have an idea |
| 08:35:42 | dwihno | Which I got kläcked now |
| 08:35:43 | dwihno | :-) |
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| 08:35:47 | * | LinusN fears new ideas |
| 08:35:56 | dwihno | It's not really RB-related |
| 08:36:00 | dwihno | Although pretty smart |
| 08:36:16 | dwihno | How about keeping an "unlock disk" available on the web? |
| 08:36:28 | dwihno | I mean, there are people who use wintendo and are unable to unlock their drives |
| 08:36:34 | LinusN | some guys have done that |
| 08:36:36 | dwihno | Booting from a floppy would be very simple indeed |
| 08:36:50 | dwihno | So why aren't there any such thing available on the site? *ehum* :-) |
| 08:36:51 | dwihno | Hehu |
| 08:36:59 | * | dwihno gets LinusN some buns |
| 08:37:04 | dwihno | Congrats to the recording! |
| 08:37:08 | LinusN | i don't know where it is though |
| 08:37:10 | dwihno | Is it working out nicely so far? |
| 08:37:38 | LinusN | it's a linux-on-a-floppy thing, with a patched ISD200 driver |
| 08:37:54 | LinusN | dwihno: yes it works ok i think |
| 08:38:25 | dwihno | Don't you think it would be swell to keep it on the "unlock disk" page? :) |
| 08:38:28 | * | dwihno got tea |
| 08:38:30 | LinusN | we do need a patch for the standard IDE driver, so we can unlock recorders as well |
| 08:39:44 | dwihno | Ah. True |
| 08:40:02 | dwihno | Perhaps some device driver hook for windows as well? |
| 08:48:19 | LinusN | device drivers? for windows? ha! |
| 08:48:35 | Bagder | that won't happen |
| 08:48:44 | dwihno | device driver hook |
| 08:48:53 | Bagder | won't happen anyway ;-) |
| 08:49:00 | dwihno | Bah(tm) on YOU! :) |
| 08:49:13 | Bagder | prove me wrong instead |
| 08:49:50 | LinusN | DRIVER_TYPE tdzSillyLongHookName(DWORD dwEvenLongerSillyName, HANDLE hWeirdoParameterWithLongName); |
| 08:49:55 | dwihno | :-) |
| 08:49:59 | LinusN | i think not |
| 08:50:25 | dwihno | LinusN: you rock the box! |
| 08:52:31 | LinusN | over and over... :-) |
| 08:53:26 | LinusN | you tend to have some spare time when you are in a hospital |
| 08:53:30 | dwihno | But you do NOT rock the VXD's ;-) |
| 08:53:48 | LinusN | thank god for that |
| 08:55:15 | * | adi|home quotes a famous rhyme |
| 08:55:31 | adi|home | "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but would someone please kill my ex?" |
| 08:57:16 | adi|home | oh.. oh.. how about sheakspeare? |
| 08:57:44 | adi|home | "If you prick me, do I not bleed? If you cleft my ex in twain, do I not celebrate?" |
| 08:57:48 | * | adi|home nods happily |
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| 09:00:58 | Zagor | morning |
| 09:01:00 | Bagder | morning |
| 09:01:07 | Hes | morning |
| 09:01:34 | LinusN | morn |
| 09:01:47 | Hes | Recording!! Yippiaieee! |
| 09:01:50 | dwihno | Hail to Zagor! Hail to the fat(32)master! :) |
| 09:02:26 | Zagor | :-) |
| 09:03:08 | * | dwihno sends in the RockBox cheerleaders "Zagor, Zagor, he's our man - he can't code it, no one will" :-) |
| 09:04:40 | dwihno | Zagor: Show me the code, or lose me forever ;D |
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| 10:05:41 | Schnueff | moin |
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| 10:06:29 | Zagor | hi Schnueff |
| 10:28:39 | LinusN | Zagor: tried recording yet? |
| 10:28:53 | Zagor | no. i'm busy fixing O_RDWR. |
| 10:29:06 | Zagor | or rather non-truncating writes |
| 10:30:56 | LinusN | how is that going? |
| 10:31:13 | Zagor | pretty good. non-truncating writes coming in a couple of minutes. |
| 10:31:35 | LinusN | wow! |
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| 10:32:25 | Atifear | hi |
| 10:32:29 | LinusN | hi |
| 10:34:11 | Atifear | I m on windows, I ve downloaded GnU.....etc prog and i want to applythe queue patch but i have only .c .c.diff and .h files, I haven't seen it on the FAQ, what I have to do with this files? I've the source code.. |
| 10:35:01 | LinusN | have you been able to compile the firmware without the patch? |
| 10:35:20 | Atifear | I know exactly how to do it but i haven't tried |
| 10:35:39 | LinusN | please do that first |
| 10:35:44 | Atifear | okay |
| 10:35:54 | LinusN | then copy the .c files to the appropriate places |
| 10:36:24 | LinusN | and apply the patch with "patch < <file>.diff" |
| 10:36:32 | Atifear | okay |
| 10:36:48 | LinusN | and compile again of course |
| 10:37:31 | Atifear | It says "nothing to be done for player" |
| 10:38:02 | LinusN | did you run ../tools/configure? |
| 10:38:25 | Atifear | arfsorry i ve forgotten |
| 10:38:28 | Atifear | :s |
| 10:38:33 | Bagder | are you using cygwin? |
| 10:39:16 | Atifear | i m using GNU H8 V203-ELF |
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| 10:39:31 | Bagder | then you can't run the configure script afaik |
| 10:39:33 | LinusN | in a DOS window? |
| 10:39:54 | LinusN | use cygwin |
| 10:40:08 | Atifear | In a DOS window |
| 10:40:15 | LinusN | use cygwin |
| 10:40:34 | Atifear | where can i find that? |
| 10:40:37 | Atifear | in the FAQ? |
| 10:42:50 | Bagder | http://merwin.bespin.org/sh1cygwin |
| 10:42:52 | Bagder | I think |
| 10:42:52 | LinusN | use google to find it |
| 10:43:06 | Atifear | thx ;) |
| 10:43:47 | Atifear | before i must do what "How to compile Rockbox" says? |
| 10:43:50 | LinusN | i found some vital info on the potential resume bug on funmp3players: |
| 10:43:55 | LinusN | "It seemed very hit & miss, but I seemed to remember it would always fail if I changed any EQ settings / fonts / WPS before a shutdown???" |
| 10:44:28 | Zagor | LinusN: ah, good clue |
| 10:51:35 | Atifear | ive downloaded the cygwin, what have i to do? |
| 10:52:58 | Atifear | how can i run the configure script with cygwin? |
| 10:53:25 | Bagder | run it from cygwin's shell |
| 10:53:36 | LinusN | do you have a "player" dir in the same dir as firmware, tools and apps? |
| 10:53:47 | LinusN | and docs |
| 10:53:59 | Atifear | just in apps |
| 10:55:24 | LinusN | don't have it in apps |
| 10:55:29 | Atifear | cygwin's shell? (sorry about asking those king of questions) |
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| 10:56:03 | Atifear | Ive a player folder only in apps with icons.c and icons.h files |
| 10:56:05 | Bagder | when you start cygwin it should pop up a command prompt, a shell window |
| 10:56:16 | Bagder | if not, it's not working |
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| 10:57:04 | Atifear | but there is a lot of folders and a ot of .exe files, wich file ive to run? |
| 10:57:16 | Atifear | sorry about my english, i m french :s |
| 10:57:19 | Bagder | hm |
| 10:57:27 | Bagder | I don't know |
| 10:57:32 | Bagder | I've never used that |
| 10:57:42 | Atifear | ok |
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| 10:58:32 | Atifear | ive a missing dll whan i want to run exe files :s |
| 10:58:39 | Atifear | when |
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| 11:01:48 | Atifear | LinusN do you know how can i run configure script with cygwin? |
| 11:02:41 | LinusN | yes |
| 11:03:05 | LinusN | start the cygwin shell |
| 11:03:34 | Atifear | I have a lot of dir ans files, what is the cygwin shell? |
| 11:03:38 | LinusN | then follow the instructions in docs/README |
| 11:03:46 | Atifear | maybe ive downloaded the wrong file |
| 11:03:55 | LinusN | did you install cygwin? |
| 11:04:11 | Bagder | perhaps that file is only the sh1 compiler and not the full cygwin installation |
| 11:04:35 | Atifear | ive downloaded a zip file |
| 11:04:46 | LinusN | you need a full cygwin install |
| 11:04:50 | Atifear | with bin, include, info,..... dir |
| 11:04:54 | Atifear | ah okay |
| 11:05:23 | LinusN | the zip file is only the compiler |
| 11:05:41 | Atifear | ok |
| 11:05:46 | Atifear | i m downloading a setup file |
| 11:06:19 | LinusN | great, remember to install it all, even the native gcc compiler |
| 11:06:46 | LinusN | Atifear: be aware with the queue patch, btw |
| 11:06:47 | dwihno | Anyone got great URL's dealing with speech synthesis? |
| 11:06:53 | dwihno | I'd like to know how it works :) |
| 11:06:59 | LinusN | it's old, so it will not apply to the latest source code |
| 11:07:09 | Atifear | ah |
| 11:07:13 | LinusN | and it's written for the recorder |
| 11:07:25 | LinusN | so you'll have to tweak it for the player |
| 11:07:36 | LinusN | i have never tried it, btw |
| 11:07:45 | Atifear | arf |
| 11:07:49 | Atifear | ill try :) |
| 11:08:07 | LinusN | may gcc be merciful on you |
| 11:08:35 | Atifear | :-) |
| 11:10:05 | LinusN | Guys, do you think the F1 settings are enough in the recording screen, or do we want the F2/F3 q-menus as well? |
| 11:10:35 | Zagor | probably quickscreens too |
| 11:10:50 | Zagor | but we don't have to have them right away |
| 11:11:04 | LinusN | i wish someone could code an f-key status bar :-) |
| 11:11:13 | LinusN | Zagor: we have both now |
| 11:11:24 | LinusN | the first version had only q-menus |
| 11:11:28 | Zagor | ok |
| 11:12:04 | LinusN | i could use some help with the gui stuff |
| 11:12:11 | LinusN | not my expert area |
| 11:12:23 | Atifear | with cugwin, how can i go to the config dir? |
| 11:12:29 | Atifear | itsnt like dos |
| 11:12:51 | Schnueff | type / instead of \ |
| 11:12:59 | Schnueff | thats the first hint :) |
| 11:13:08 | Atifear | okay;) |
| 11:13:27 | Bagder | Atifear: cygwin is a kind of unix-emulation layer, so it looks and works pretty much like unix |
| 11:13:48 | Atifear | okay its good |
| 11:13:59 | LinusN | feels almost like /home :-) |
| 11:14:26 | LinusN | /home is where i put my .cshrc |
| 11:14:38 | Atifear | I m in the dir now |
| 11:14:42 | Zagor | you do? ;) |
| 11:14:44 | Atifear | how can i run configure? |
| 11:14:50 | Schnueff | ./configure |
| 11:14:53 | Schnueff | eh |
| 11:14:55 | Atifear | okay |
| 11:15:08 | Bagder | Atifear: but don't run it in the tools dir |
| 11:15:11 | LinusN | Zagor: actually, it's .bashrc |
| 11:15:26 | Schnueff | Atifear: yes, listen to what Bagder says :) |
| 11:15:29 | Atifear | Badger: arf this is what i done |
| 11:15:30 | LinusN | Atifear: read the README and follow it |
| 11:15:38 | Atifear | okay i ll |
| 11:15:40 | Atifear | do it |
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| 11:17:43 | LinusN | Atifear: what version of the source code do you have? |
| 11:18:08 | Atifear | 1.4 |
| 11:19:03 | LinusN | what version is the patch supposed to work on? |
| 11:19:15 | Atifear | the readme says that i must run make in the tools directory but its already done |
| 11:19:33 | LinusN | and that worked? |
| 11:19:36 | Bagder | if you already did it, then its done, yes |
| 11:20:09 | Atifear | no ècaus the make file isnt here and the tolls are |
| 11:20:26 | Atifear | but itsays that i must run it to make the tools |
| 11:20:29 | LinusN | no makefile? |
| 11:20:56 | Atifear | Build the tools by running 'make' in the tools/ directory |
| 11:20:56 | Bagder | you ruined it by running configure in the dir I guess |
| 11:21:09 | Atifear | ive reexctract it |
| 11:21:26 | LinusN | cd tools |
| 11:21:28 | Bagder | later versions of configure prevents that mistake |
| 11:21:29 | LinusN | make |
| 11:21:37 | LinusN | did you do that? |
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| 11:22:37 | Atifear | yes |
| 11:22:37 | LinusN | TotMacher: you there? |
| 11:22:42 | Atifear | but the files isnt here |
| 11:22:42 | TotMacher | yes |
| 11:23:18 | LinusN | TotMacher: just wondered. you come and go 24 hours a day, so i wondered if it's really you |
| 11:23:28 | TotMacher | :) |
| 11:23:53 | LinusN | Atifear: what files are in the tools dir? |
| 11:24:41 | Atifear | bmp2rb.c configure convbdf.c descramble.c files genlang |
| 11:25:01 | Atifear | makefile release scramble.c |
| 11:25:03 | Zagor | LinusN: you can now write the header, by closing and reopening the file. i'm looking at lseek() while writing now. |
| 11:25:13 | Atifear | sh2d.c uplang |
| 11:25:25 | LinusN | Atifear: all files are there |
| 11:25:35 | Atifear | exept make |
| 11:25:53 | Bagder | Atifear: make came with your cywgin install |
| 11:25:54 | LinusN | come on, 'make' is not there |
| 11:26:16 | Atifear | so, what ive to do now? |
| 11:26:27 | LinusN | cd tools |
| 11:26:29 | LinusN | make |
| 11:26:45 | Bagder | Atifear: make sure your path contains the dir in which 'make' is put |
| 11:26:48 | Atifear | No such file or directory |
| 11:27:14 | LinusN | Atifear: did you do a full cygwin install? |
| 11:27:19 | Atifear | yes |
| 11:27:45 | LinusN | type 'ls -l' |
| 11:28:21 | Atifear | command not found |
| 11:28:33 | LinusN | you are not running cygwin |
| 11:28:50 | LinusN | are you |
| 11:28:54 | Atifear | yes |
| 11:28:57 | Atifear | this is cygwin |
| 11:29:03 | LinusN | weird |
| 11:29:44 | LinusN | type 'echo $path' |
| 11:30:13 | Atifear | bothing happends |
| 11:30:18 | Atifear | nothing |
| 11:30:24 | Bagder | try $PATH |
| 11:31:25 | Atifear | Bash: usr/local/bin............... ND no such file,or directory |
| 11:31:45 | Bagder | echo $PATH |
| 11:32:21 | LinusN | Zagor: no truncate at all? |
| 11:32:28 | Zagor | LinusN: not yet |
| 11:32:30 | Zagor | coming |
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| 11:34:05 | Atifear | usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/cygdrive/c/windows:/cygdrive/c/windows |
| 11:34:59 | LinusN | looks ok |
| 11:35:26 | LinusN | but why didn't ls work? hmmm... |
| 11:35:56 | Atifear | but it must be a mke file in the tools dir? |
| 11:36:16 | LinusN | it's called 'makefile' |
| 11:36:27 | LinusN | make is a program |
| 11:36:43 | Atifear | i just have to type make? |
| 11:36:50 | LinusN | yes |
| 11:36:59 | Atifear | command not found |
| 11:37:16 | Bagder | bbl |
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| 11:37:19 | LinusN | somehow, you didn't install everything |
| 11:38:24 | Atifear | in cygwin setup i must make all instal |
| 11:39:39 | Atifear | imù going to réinstall, |
| 11:39:52 | Atifear | the last time i let default installation |
| 11:39:53 | LinusN | yes, but i don't know is there are different install options |
| 11:40:05 | LinusN | you said you did a full nstall |
| 11:40:25 | Atifear | i tought but it seems tahts it wasnt |
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| 11:44:18 | Atifear | i haven't done the full installation 'caus its longer now, sorry, i thought :S |
| 11:44:42 | LinusN | remember to install gcc |
| 11:44:59 | Atifear | i make all install, is it an option o fthe istallation? |
| 11:45:26 | LinusN | if you install all, i guess gcc is installed too |
| 11:45:31 | Atifear | okay |
| 11:48:18 | Atifear | arf its long to install |
| 11:48:19 | Atifear | :) |
| 11:50:58 | Hadaka | gods.. |
| 11:51:39 | LinusN | talking to me? :-) |
| 11:51:44 | LinusN | i am god |
| 11:51:53 | dwihno | How many bits are a 32-bit register? |
| 11:52:01 | dwihno | I talk to YOU, linus :) |
| 11:52:22 | webmind | morning |
| 11:52:40 | LinusN | dwihno: 25? :-) |
| 11:52:44 | LinusN | hi webmind |
| 11:52:56 | dwihno | LinusN: I'm serious! :) |
| 11:53:01 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 11:53:01 | * | dwihno does stupid DOS stuff |
| 11:53:06 | dwihno | protected blahblah |
| 11:53:33 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 11:53:35 | LinusN | a 32-bit register is 32 bits |
| 11:53:43 | webmind | question: all apps in linux are suposed to die on signal 9 right ? |
| 11:54:06 | dwihno | LinusN: That's what I mean, and a word is 32-bit, right? |
| 11:54:11 | dwihno | oops |
| 11:54:13 | dwihno | :-) |
| 11:54:16 | * | dwihno shuts up |
| 11:54:24 | * | dwihno hugs everybody and forgets everything |
| 11:54:37 | LinusN | a word can be 16, 32 or 64 bits, depending on CPU |
| 11:54:59 | LinusN | webmind: yes, they are supposed to |
| 11:55:23 | LinusN | but they may be severely crashed, so they won't listen to signals |
| 11:55:34 | webmind | LinusN, then how come they dont if they crash when they try to use my jukebox ? |
| 11:55:34 | webmind | ah ok |
| 11:55:53 | webmind | so that's like a very bad design flaw in linux ? |
| 11:55:59 | LinusN | webmind: they hang on the USB driver |
| 11:55:59 | dwihno | LinusN: Tell me why unsigned long long won't work with mingw on gcc plz :-) |
| 11:56:06 | webmind | yes |
| 11:56:34 | webmind | cant copy now from or too the damn thing... |
| 11:56:48 | webmind | awell |
| 11:56:59 | Atifear | i'll come back later, thx all! |
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| 11:57:45 | LinusN | dwihno: what is the problem? |
| 11:58:21 | dwihno | LinusN: mingw doesn't support unsigned long long :) Quite a big problem |
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| 12:01:37 | LinusN | ah |
| 12:01:49 | LinusN | and this is documented? |
| 12:03:51 | dwihno | Trying to see |
| 12:03:58 | dwihno | If there is some kind of 64 bit integer data type |
| 12:05:57 | LinusN | dwihno: what happens when you use long long? |
| 12:06:05 | dwihno | no compiler warning, no nothing |
| 12:06:15 | dwihno | and when I do a simple printf with %llu, I get bogus stuff |
| 12:07:10 | Zagor | LinusN: don't try my latest code. i added a silly bug. |
| 12:07:31 | LinusN | Zagor: i never try you first version of anything :-) |
| 12:07:42 | Zagor | hehe |
| 12:07:51 | LinusN | my current code depends on the truncate, btw |
| 12:08:32 | LinusN | dwihno: does it work with linux? |
| 12:09:00 | dwihno | LinusN: yes, so I start to wonder if it's some silly mingw bu.. surprise feature :) |
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| 12:16:53 | dwihno | > I would like to know if Mingw supports the "long long" integer datatype |
| 12:16:53 | dwihno | > which is a 64-bit integer. |
| 12:16:53 | dwihno | Yes, and the printf format spec is I64d : |
| 12:17:07 | dwihno | %I64d <−− that is |
| 12:17:12 | dwihno | Is it standard'ish? |
| 12:17:23 | dwihno | You tell me, almighty "getting-paid-for-coding"-gurus :) |
| 12:17:39 | LinusN | long long isn't standardish either :-) |
| 12:18:10 | Zagor | dwihno: long long is a double long. not necessarily 64 bits. |
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| 12:35:44 | dwihno | Speaking of long's... Do you know who in china has the longest dick? |
| 12:35:48 | dwihno | Long dong fjong :) |
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| 13:48:22 | elinenbe | lookie here: http://www.neurosaudio.com/ |
| 13:48:40 | elinenbe | http://www.neurosaudio.com/community/forum/default.asp?CAT_ID=8 |
| 13:48:46 | Zagor | it's slashdotted to hell |
| 13:48:48 | elinenbe | an "open" mp3 player |
| 13:49:36 | Zagor | open? i don't see a source download link. |
| 13:51:19 | elinenbe | read the banner at the bottom of the main page. |
| 13:52:07 | Zagor | yeah, but it's all empty words. the forum is empty and there is no source nor docs. |
| 13:57:29 | Zagor | still, good words anyway. let's hope they back it up with action. |
| 13:57:37 | Zagor | USB1.1 is a bit lame though :-( |
| 13:57:49 | Zagor | and the 128MB model is $249! |
| 13:58:18 | dwihno | Zagor: Hey, it's still USB (as compared to oldschool players like the RIO which used parallell ports) :) |
| 13:58:20 | LinusN | 128mb? |
| 13:58:31 | LinusN | spare us from all these flash players |
| 13:58:31 | Zagor | 128 by 128 pixel resolution is nice |
| 13:58:42 | Zagor | LinusN: it can use both 2.5" disk and flash. pretty cool actually. |
| 13:58:45 | elinenbe | 4 bit resolution (greyscale) |
| 13:58:52 | LinusN | ok |
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| 14:00:13 | Zagor | at least I think I read that somewhere |
| 14:00:43 | Zagor | yeah, found it |
| 14:00:58 | Zagor | ugh, it's huge. 5.3 inches tall! |
| 14:01:25 | Zagor | umm, maybe it's not that much :-) |
| 14:02:29 | >>> | "convert 9.4 oz" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 14:02:36 | dwihno | "USB cable and Neuros Synchronization Manager Software" |
| 14:02:53 | dwihno | :-/ |
| 14:02:59 | Zagor | yeah, but all devices have silly software. hopefully it's usb-storage compliant. |
| 14:03:16 | dwihno | Don't bet your pants on it. |
| 14:03:23 | >>> | "convert 5.3 inch" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 14:03:47 | Zagor | i never bet my pants :-) |
| 14:04:07 | Zagor | i think i'll post a rant about what "open" means :-) |
| 14:04:12 | elinenbe | it seems like it is Zagor. |
| 14:04:23 | dwihno | " Up to 30 minutes of skip protection |
| 14:04:57 | elinenbe | http://www.neurosaudio.com/community/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=19 |
| 14:05:08 | Zagor | "Easily upgrade your Neuros by exchanging the backpack that comes attached to your Neuros 128MB for the 20GB HD backpack. Now you will have 2 units - super portable and huge capacity." Cool idea. |
| 14:05:09 | dwihno | Imagine transfering data from disk to the flash cart, thus saving the power... Or how does it do it? |
| 14:05:15 | elinenbe | http://www.neurosaudio.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13 |
| 14:06:16 | elinenbe | dwihno: I think it does something like that. There is more than 30 minutes of skip protection. |
| 14:06:22 | dwihno | The nomad 3 requires custom software. How day! |
| 14:06:29 | elinenbe | dwihno: but only 10 hours of playback |
| 14:06:35 | dwihno | s/day/gay/ |
| 14:06:39 | Zagor | no you can't have both. you have disk *or* flash |
| 14:08:18 | dwihno | hm |
| 14:08:25 | dwihno | I got something better than the neuros |
| 14:08:28 | dwihno | I got an archos |
| 14:08:32 | dwihno | :-) |
| 14:08:53 | dwihno | It has an open source firmware alternative! |
| 14:09:02 | Zagor | if neuros are serious about working with the community, they can surpass archos/rockbox easily |
| 14:09:05 | dwihno | With custom fonts, regular playlist parsing and loads of other neat stuff |
| 14:10:02 | dwihno | "Full speed USB 1.1 |
| 14:10:06 | dwihno | erhm |
| 14:10:14 | dwihno | That makes it sound like USB 1.1 is fast :) |
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| 14:10:32 | dwihno | Using an circuit like the ISD300 they easily solve the issue with mass storage compliance etc. |
| 14:11:12 | Zagor | it is mass-storage compliant, but they use the iPod method of using an id3 database rather than browsing the dir |
| 14:11:27 | Zagor | so they have to make client software for all operating systems... |
| 14:12:26 | dwihno | Hmm :/ |
| 14:12:33 | dwihno | That is _NOT_ good |
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| 14:58:20 | Zagor | LinusN: RDWR added |
| 14:59:02 | LinusN | great, truncate works now? |
| 14:59:23 | Zagor | no, i'll add that now. (truncate doesn't exist yet) |
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| 15:01:34 | LinusN | it did before |
| 15:01:40 | Zagor | no, that was close() |
| 15:02:03 | Zagor | fat_truncate() exists, but that only works on sector level. |
| 15:02:04 | LinusN | close() truncated before, but not now? |
| 15:02:08 | Zagor | correct |
| 15:02:19 | LinusN | i repeat: |
| 15:02:21 | LinusN | it did before |
| 15:02:38 | LinusN | so it did exist |
| 15:03:04 | Zagor | just because close() truncated doesn't mean ftruncate() existed |
| 15:03:12 | LinusN | all i want is not to lose clusters when i record to the same file twice |
| 15:03:22 | Zagor | i know. you'll get it. |
| 15:03:35 | LinusN | i was not talking about ftruncate() |
| 15:04:05 | LinusN | (didn't even know there was such a function) |
| 15:04:08 | LinusN | :-) |
| 15:06:32 | LinusN | talk about coolness, when we will be able to regenerate the VBR header with Rockbox :-) |
| 15:06:50 | Zagor | hehe. that'll rock! |
| 15:09:37 | LinusN | actually, regenerating the VBR header on ordinary MP3 files may require rewriting of the file, since there may not be room for an extra frame between the ID3V2 tag and the first MP3 frame |
| 15:10:38 | Schnueff | maybe an optimization to put a sector before the file starts would be neat |
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| 15:12:31 | Schnueff | dont know of fat filesystem structure, could the work for fat somehow? |
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| 15:13:02 | LinusN | actually, regenerating the VBR header on ordinary MP3 files may require rewriting of the file, since there may not be room for an extra frame between the ID3V2 tag and the first MP3 frame |
| 15:13:14 | Schnueff | yes u said that already :) |
| 15:13:29 | Zagor | Schnueff: no. you can't allocate a cluster without it being part of the file data. |
| 15:13:54 | Zagor | you can leave a free cluster before the file, but the next file written will use it |
| 15:14:07 | Schnueff | but saying that file starts at a newly allocated cluster and correcting the cluster links? |
| 15:14:37 | Zagor | Schnueff: that is an error state. diskscan and other tools will complain about it and correct it |
| 15:14:41 | Schnueff | hm a cluster is quite big, isnt it? (many sectors?) |
| 15:14:56 | Zagor | it can be 1 - 128 sectors |
| 15:15:39 | Zagor | LinusN: does archos leave room at the beginning? |
| 15:15:49 | Zagor | padding the id3v2 tag, i mean |
| 15:16:58 | Schnueff | Zagor: yes i understand thats an error state, but one would only on demand (i.e. theres no free pad room for the xing headers left, so i try some low-level fat operation, to make room for it without actually copying all the clusters) |
| 15:17:17 | Schnueff | one would only do it on demand, i mean |
| 15:17:53 | Zagor | the argument is moot, since we don't write those files anyway. when we write, we leave room for the VBR headers. |
| 15:18:19 | Schnueff | yes, but it could happen with an id3 tag editor sometime, too |
| 15:18:42 | LinusN | archos' files have no headers afaics |
| 15:18:54 | Zagor | yes, but the file is already written to disk. so any lowlevel allocation tricks are too late, since Windows wrote the file! |
| 15:19:30 | Schnueff | and then, the only trick one could (maybe?) do is to prepend a whole cluster to the file, but thats too big? |
| 15:19:51 | Zagor | Schnueff: allocation tricks can only be done when Rockbox writes the file. and we don't need to trick, since we leave enough room so we don't need it. |
| 15:20:04 | Zagor | Schnueff: that could work, actually. |
| 15:20:18 | Schnueff | k |
| 15:20:34 | Schnueff | but if the cluster is 128 sectors, that would suck much space |
| 15:20:59 | Zagor | yeah, 64 KB. but I would guess normal is 32 sectors/cluster == 16 KB. not too bad. |
| 15:21:15 | Schnueff | k |
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| 15:21:50 | Schnueff | would be a neat optimization to make room for tags / headers, if no padding is left |
| 15:22:02 | Zagor | yup |
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| 15:40:22 | Zagor | LinusN: ftruncate() added |
| 15:40:52 | LinusN | how do i use it? |
| 15:40:58 | LinusN | does close() truncate? |
| 15:41:01 | Zagor | int ftruncate(int fd, unsigned int size) |
| 15:41:05 | Zagor | close does not truncate |
| 15:41:13 | LinusN | shouldn't it? |
| 15:41:17 | Zagor | no |
| 15:41:34 | LinusN | i think it should |
| 15:41:42 | Hadaka | brr... |
| 15:41:42 | Zagor | posix thinks otherwise :-) |
| 15:41:52 | Schnueff | heh |
| 15:42:16 | LinusN | ok, so write() truncates? |
| 15:42:27 | Zagor | no. only ftruncate() truncates. |
| 15:42:28 | Hadaka | I don't see a reason to blindly follow POSIX or any other standard - but any gratuitious differences should be avoided like the plague |
| 15:43:00 | Zagor | Hadaka: i agree |
| 15:43:02 | Hadaka | and any differences should be lighted with neon signds |
| 15:43:27 | LinusN | so if i create a file with open(O_WRONLY) it never truncates? |
| 15:43:53 | Zagor | LinusN: correct. currently there is no difference between O_WRONLY and O_RDWR |
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| 15:44:04 | Zagor | i'm not sure what difference there normally is :-) |
| 15:44:08 | Schnueff | create = open, LinusN ? |
| 15:44:25 | Hadaka | O_TRUNC should cause a truncate though |
| 15:44:47 | Zagor | Hadaka: yeah, if it was supported :-) |
| 15:44:58 | Hadaka | and ofcourse O_CREAT should be needed if creating a file |
| 15:45:33 | Zagor | that's rather useful. i think i'll add it. |
| 15:45:45 | Hadaka | goodie :) |
| 15:47:47 | Hadaka | do you have O_APPEND? |
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| 15:47:56 | Zagor | no |
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| 15:48:18 | LinusN | i still don't get it |
| 15:48:49 | LinusN | if i open an existing file, shouldn't i use special flags to not truncate it |
| 15:48:55 | Hadaka | nope |
| 15:49:11 | LinusN | if i write at position 0, i thought it would automatically truncate |
| 15:49:19 | Hadaka | nope, overwrite |
| 15:49:28 | Hadaka | man 2 open |
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| 15:49:46 | Hadaka | conforming to SVr4, SVID, POSIX, X/OPEN, BSD 4.3 |
| 15:50:01 | Zagor | LinusN: I can att O_TRUNC support if you like |
| 15:50:11 | Zagor | add |
| 15:51:05 | LinusN | creat() is equivalent to open(O_CREAT|O_WRONLY|O_TRUNC) |
| 15:51:08 | Hadaka | O_TRUNC and O_APPEND are nice to avoid race conditions - not that you would have such |
| 15:51:31 | Zagor | LinusN: ah! me fix. |
| 15:51:40 | Hadaka | yes |
| 15:51:52 | Zagor | i hadn't seen that |
| 15:53:12 | Hadaka | how big is the firmware currently btw and how much memory does it take? |
| 15:53:52 | Zagor | we have 1.690 MB mp3 buffer, the rest is firmware use |
| 15:54:11 | Zagor | for recorder, that is |
| 15:54:56 | LinusN | i have to go now cu later |
| 15:55:08 | Hadaka | so, 358kilobytes? know what are the big spenders there? |
| 15:55:31 | Zagor | i'll look |
| 15:55:47 | Zagor | 310 KB |
| 15:56:40 | Hadaka | hmh yes, ofcourse, I was being stupid in my calculation |
| 15:57:08 | Hadaka | hmh, I wonder where most of it goes |
| 15:59:32 | Hadaka | hmh, the ajbrec.ajz is 146K |
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| 16:00:07 | Zagor | you can look in archos.map |
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| 16:00:23 | Zagor | i can't seem to beat sort into submission... |
| 16:00:45 | Hadaka | sort? |
| 16:01:13 | Zagor | yeah, so it sorts archos.map for me, showing the largest users |
| 16:01:30 | Hadaka | archos map doesn't exist before compilation? |
| 16:02:00 | Zagor | no, it's created by the linker |
| 16:02:13 | Hadaka | let's see if my sh-elf-gcc is recent enough |
| 16:02:30 | Hadaka | oh, tools/Makefile is still not run automatically |
| 16:02:59 | Zagor | heh, no |
| 16:03:23 | Schnueff | what should one sort the .map for? third col? |
| 16:03:54 | Hadaka | what's name_buffer? |
| 16:03:59 | Zagor | Schnueff: yes |
| 16:04:17 | Zagor | Hadaka: dir buffer |
| 16:04:57 | Hadaka | so that's 16000 bytes, not 16K |
| 16:05:05 | Zagor | right |
| 16:06:35 | Hadaka | .text 0x090002e0 0x1611a |
| 16:06:42 | Hadaka | ponder |
| 16:07:11 | Zagor | .text 0x090002e0 0x1961a |
| 16:07:21 | Zagor | we'll get a bit lower with plugins |
| 16:07:41 | Hadaka | what's that huge .text chunk? |
| 16:07:48 | Zagor | that's total |
| 16:07:56 | Hadaka | oh yes, ofcourse |
| 16:08:48 | Zagor | .rodata 0x0901d8e8 0x7e4c /home/bjst/rockbox/rec/recorder/sokoban.o |
| 16:11:43 | Hadaka | 158904 .bss |
| 16:11:43 | Hadaka | 90394 .text |
| 16:11:43 | Hadaka | 41524 .rodata |
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| 16:11:44 | Hadaka | 8960 .stack |
| 16:12:07 | Hadaka | and yes, i do have games and demos built |
| 16:13:08 | Hadaka | how is statically allocated memory in code files allocated there? where is it in? |
| 16:16:05 | Zagor | .bss |
| 16:16:31 | Hadaka | okay, let's see the breakdown for .bss |
| 16:18:09 | Hadaka | ah, here it is |
| 16:18:30 | Hadaka | 56548 playlist.o |
| 16:18:31 | Hadaka | 18732 librockbox.a(mpeg.o) |
| 16:18:31 | Hadaka | 17808 librockbox.a(fat.o) |
| 16:18:31 | Hadaka | 9052 librockbox.a(font.o) |
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| 16:18:31 | Hadaka | 7204 tetris.o |
| 16:18:33 | Hadaka | 6432 librockbox.a(dir.o) |
| 16:18:35 | Hadaka | 4096 language.o |
| 16:18:38 | Hadaka | 4076 tree.o |
| 16:18:46 | Hadaka | rest is less than 4000 |
| 16:19:32 | Zagor | fat has a sector cache, playlist is obvious. font too. dir looks big. mpeg i'm not sure what it has. |
| 16:21:09 | Hadaka | static struct id3tag *id3tags[MAX_ID3_TAGS]; |
| 16:21:09 | Hadaka | static struct id3tag _id3tags[MAX_ID3_TAGS]; |
| 16:21:16 | Hadaka | just a guess |
| 16:21:16 | Zagor | ok, dir is 260 bytes path + one sector for each open dir (8) |
| 16:22:04 | Zagor | 8*(260+512) = 6176 |
| 16:22:29 | Zagor | we never have more than one dir open, so we could lower MAX_OPEN_DIRS |
| 16:23:53 | dwihno | what is you doings0r? |
| 16:24:17 | Hadaka | well |
| 16:24:24 | Hadaka | personally why I'm looking at this stuff |
| 16:24:37 | Hadaka | is to see how much memory is wasted on stuff that only needs to be in memory temporarily |
| 16:26:20 | Zagor | that's probably a good chunk |
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| 16:27:30 | Zagor | hi bagder |
| 16:27:32 | Bagder | rehi |
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| 16:31:27 | Bagder | hey, the build is yellow! |
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| 16:40:51 | dwihno | Zagor = &LinusN; |
| 16:41:03 | Bagder | hehehe |
| 16:41:27 | Bagder | I believe its char *Zagor, as he's an odd character ;-) |
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| 16:56:47 | dwihno | .Gud hade varnat och sagt att äpplena var giftiga. När de åt av dem så blev de dummare. VINCENT, 6 ÅR |
| 16:56:57 | dwihno | :-) |
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| 17:08:56 | Bagder | Zagor: why have creat() at all? |
| 17:09:13 | Zagor | no reason, really. just completeness. |
| 17:12:25 | Hes | Aim for POSIX compliance? 8-) |
| 17:12:41 | Zagor | nah. we're a bit from that still ;) |
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| 17:13:35 | Bagder | hi |
| 17:13:46 | diddystar5 | where is merwins(jheiner) page i ergot |
| 17:14:16 | diddystar5 | (fergot |
| 17:14:39 | Bagder | http://merwin.bespin.org/ |
| 17:14:49 | diddystar5 | thanks badger! |
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| 20:44:00 | adi|home | howdy |
| 20:46:47 | Atifear | I m trying to compile but i ve practically inish but I dont know how to fing sh-elf-gcc |
| 20:46:56 | Atifear | anybody knows? |
| 20:47:03 | Atifear | find |
| 20:48:02 | Atifear | I m using cygwin |
| 20:49:40 | Atifear | help please |
| 20:50:00 | Atifear | i ve downloaded GNUH8 v0203-ELF |
| 20:50:05 | Atifear | what can i do now, |
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| 21:05:07 | Atifear | help me i cant find sh-elf-gcc :( |
| 21:07:16 | Atifear | is anybody here? |
| 21:08:36 | Atifear | thx for all |
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| 22:09:20 | gizz | hi |
| 22:09:27 | Zagor | hi gizz |
| 22:10:04 | gizz | you guys have done great improvements with writing/recording :) |
| 22:10:14 | gizz | respect |
| 22:10:48 | Zagor | thanks! |
| 22:11:21 | gizz | hmm.. Zagor, may I ask you some off topic Q ? |
| 22:11:56 | Zagor | sure |
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| 22:12:40 | gizz | well, I'm trying to install some RedHat 8.0, |
| 22:13:06 | gizz | I had (hw) troubles to do this, |
| 22:13:32 | gizz | but now I've got my system running, but I can't compile my kernel. |
| 22:13:41 | gizz | do you use RedHat 8.0 ? |
| 22:14:11 | Zagor | no, I use Debian |
| 22:14:17 | gizz | oops |
| 22:14:44 | gizz | It seems to me that something's wrong with RedHat ANSI C headers install.. |
| 22:14:47 | gizz | :-) |
| 22:15:05 | gizz | err I meant, :-( |
| 22:15:05 | Zagor | really? have you googled? |
| 22:15:11 | gizz | well... |
| 22:15:36 | gizz | I tried to find info about "+red +hat +stdarg?h +error" with no result |
| 22:15:45 | gizz | stdarg.h |
| 22:16:09 | Zagor | don't use + on google |
| 22:16:17 | gizz | errm, yahoo |
| 22:17:48 | Zagor | try channel #linuxhelp. if there is a redhat problem, it's probably well known. |
| 22:18:08 | PsycoXul | there's always redhat problems :p |
| 22:18:16 | gizz | thx, I'll check out.. |
| 22:22:00 | gizz | BTW, Zagor, I've seen you (cool) ISD200 driver's been merged in official 2.4.19, congrats :) |
| 22:22:57 | Zagor | actually it was merged in 2.4.8 already. :-) the changes for 2.4.19 are just updates. |
| 22:26:00 | gizz | That's it ! I didn't see it because I used the old RedHat shipped with 2.4.7-10 (thus, I was forced each time to patch with your excellent work) hehe |
| 22:26:11 | Zagor | ah |
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| 22:46:05 | gizz | see you |
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