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#rockbox log for 2003-01-08

00:03:08 Nick mecraw_ is now known as mecraw (~mecraw@69.2.235.2)
00:07:25devZer0wethion: still fsck'in ?
00:07:38wethion_devZer0: I'm back..
00:08:42wethion_Oh, I was called away for a bit.. ext3 tho'.
00:09:08wethion_what works well for you?
00:10:20shayesHadaka - looks like that works just fine for now. How often do you recommend updating with one of the daily builds?
00:11:16Hadakawell, you can keep in touch by looking at the mailinglist/commitmails - but in general every time you either find a bug or want to see if there's something new
00:11:32HadakaI'm not keeping too well in touch with rockbox now, so I'm updating like once a month
00:11:54devZer0weth: the latest daily build
00:12:03wethion_Oh. :)
00:12:13shayesOK..I also heard that if you hold down the ON button during bootup you can bypass the Rockbox software...is this true?
00:14:37devZer0really?
00:16:01devZer0weth: you are aware of http://www.linux-usb.org/ ?
00:17:03devZer0there is also a mailinglist
00:18:19wethion_devZer0: On my way there now.. thanks.
00:18:43 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@B2498.pppool.de)
00:19:09devZer0http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ is being linked from there - very good, too.
00:20:09devZer0read: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=563
00:21:25HadakaI never had any problems with the archos and usb on linux
00:22:04devZer0which distrib do you use?
00:22:53devZer0i use suse - and it works good, too. i have mandrake inside vmware here on my notebook - and it fails. but i`m not shure it
00:23:01devZer0is because of vmware or mandrake
00:23:18HadakadevZer0: debian
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00:26:52 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2)
00:26:58devZer0stock kernel or custom one ?
00:27:24shayesHadaka - another question...how can you rename or delete files from the directory?
00:27:40HadakadevZer0: self-compiled with kernel-package - but stock kernel source
00:27:56Hadakashayes: rockbox can't do that yet - you can boot the old archos firmware if you need to do that
00:28:51shayesHadaka - I am trying to boot the old firmware but can't seem to so it? Can you help...last thing...I almost promise.
00:28:52devZer0regarding: on the "low level" the code is inside ! successfully deleted some files with some test routines.
00:29:05devZer0just the ui stuff is missing for that, i think
00:29:37devZer0pardon - wanted to say: regarding deleting:
00:30:08Hadakashayes: you need to download a firmware update from the archos site - and name it something else than ajbrec.ajz and place it on the hard-drive - then with rockbox, if you have show files as 'supported' or 'all', you can see the firmware listed - if you try to 'play' it, it will boot it
00:31:59shayesHadaka - can you use this process in reverse to go back to a Rockbox boot?
00:32:45Hadakashayes: if you boot another rockbox firmware, then obviously yes - but ofcourse the stock archos firmware doesn't boot anything except itself :) so you have to turn the unit off and back on if you wish to get back to rockbox
00:33:16Hadakashayes: all your settings are saved through this though, so it should be relatively painless
00:34:28shayesHadaka - OK...you can't go in reverse because Archos does not give you the option to view all files...?
00:35:00Hadakashayes: err, no, archos doesn't know how to load firmwares at all
00:35:18Hadakashayes: it's a feature built into rockbox, archos doesn't have the ability
00:36:05shayesHadaka - OK...thanks a lot for the help...you just made this player a lot more fun!!!!
00:36:27Hadakashayes: no problem
00:37:25devZer0:) never bought a device before and was so happy with that. archos jb with rockbox is really great
00:40:22wethion_Ok, I have the modules loaded, usb-storage, usbcore, and scsi_mod. still nothing in syslog, lsusb, /proc/devices (save major 180 usb, which has always been there) and nothing from scsiinfo about a new drive. Feh.
00:41:18Hadakawethion_: have you got any other usb devices you could try?
00:41:49wethion_Hadaka: I wish.. but no.. umm actually, I just remembered I have my daughter
00:42:00wethion_'s usb microscope
00:42:15devZer0usb controller works with windows on the same machine ? did you try that ? you also could try Knoppix Linux Live CD. really great
00:42:34Hadakawethion_: it would be good to know if the usb ports in general register anything
00:42:42wethion_how would I tell?
00:42:51devZer0it has very good automatic hardwaredetection. just to be shure that it`s no problem with the hardware!
00:43:09wethion_lemme see fi Ican find a utility. BRB.
00:43:23Hadakawethion_: well, especially with usb debugging turned on - _something_ should happen when any new usb device is stuck in
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00:48:28devZer0weth: are you really shure your hardware is ok? had seen defect usb ports already !
00:49:31devZer0if you have fast internet access, download latest knoppix iso and boot from that. it will detect usb and mount archos jb without problems.
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00:49:50devZer0if your hardware is ok :)
00:50:44devZer0there is also bios option for enabling/disabling usb controller on most motherboards - did you check that ?
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00:56:57wethion_could anything else happen to distract me from this.. My dog just decided to unload her dinner on the living room floor.
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00:57:56 Nick vmars_laptop is now known as vmars (~vmarshall@vmars3.corp.yahoo.com)
00:58:56 Nick mecraw___ is now known as mecraw (~mecraw@69.2.235.2)
00:59:11devZer0uuuuh - what a mess :D
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01:00:44wethion_and she's not a small dog either 1/2 black lab, and 1/2 newfoundland. Heh.. liberal applications of ammonia and disinfectant usually do the trick nicely, as in this case.
01:01:24wethion_I'll be back in a minute.. I'm going to make sure I didn't turn off the USB settings in the BIOS.
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01:20:39wethiondevZer0: you still here>
01:20:40wethion?
01:22:16wethionOk, now about this firmware....
01:24:00devZer0yes - heavily posting on rockbox mailinglist :D
01:26:44wethionI got it. WOOHOO. I actually had to have my girlfriend tell me I wasn't a moron. can you guess what was wrong?
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01:29:21wethionI'll tell you.. the BIOS. USB ws shut off. I feel like an idiot.
01:29:55Hadakawethion: ouchie :) well good to know there was nothing fatal there
01:31:35ricIIwethion: ooops ;)
01:34:30wethionYes, to say the least. now I'm looking at the firmware. for a studio, how much better is rockbox that archos firmware?
01:36:30Hadakawethion: well, go over the feature list in rockbox - and decide if there's things you want
01:36:50ricIIwethion it's free! (as in speach)
01:37:32wethionI was doing that.. looks pretty cool.
01:38:06wethionricII: That's the biggest plus imho. It's simply a matter of moving the file to the drive on the archos?
01:38:56Hadakawethion: yes
01:39:01ricIIwethion yep, properly named the original frimware will load it..
01:39:48wethiongood deal. Hey, thanks to all of you, I really appreciate your patience and assistance.
01:43:01Hadakano problem
01:45:30devZer0upps. pardon. was busy for a while. nice, that it was such easy problem. don`t mind about that - such things even happen to experts :D
01:47:25devZer0may i tell you that this project is NICE ? NICE people on the mailinglist - nice people on the chat - AFAICS (as far as i can see) :D
01:49:05ricIII'm casemodding my recorder... (only mod left)
01:50:09ricIIso if I start to type strange things it's the polyester fumes..
01:51:07devZer0hi ric ! i also want to do some casemodding. can you send me pics from that, when finished ? i just need some inspiration
01:51:26wethionwhat are you doing, Dr. Frankenmeister?
01:52:29hardeepcheck out http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/micromusic_archos_jb20rec.jpg for a pretty nice looking mod
01:53:16hardeepdone by someone on the mailing list
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01:53:34wethionhardeep: is that tape I see?
01:53:52PsycoXulheh
01:53:54hardeepi believe it's a clear case
01:53:56devZer0if i start typing strange things one day, it`s the soldering fumes i breathed when soldering accupacs for some weeks when working at a rc-model-shop :D
01:53:58ricIImine is looks almost like that (I kept the middel part in for the keys
01:54:02PsycoXullooks like they just removed the cover and taped it together
01:54:03PsycoXul:p
01:54:21ricIItape is to keep the batteries form popping out (there is no case)
01:54:33devZer0hardeep: this is just a logo mod - just with a jukebox stripped down to the bone :D
01:54:52vmarsOndio? Opinions?
01:54:57devZer0it`s from me - did that some days ago
01:55:12hardeepah, heh
01:55:21hardeepvmars: doesn't run rockbox so pass
01:55:33PsycoXulheh
01:56:32vmarshardeep: ah, any idea how the firmware's differ?
01:56:39devZer0weth: yes - that is tape - just some tesa-tape :D
01:57:15ricIIbasicly I'm making a transparent (well yellowwish polyester) case bottom part is already done now the hard part.
01:57:34PsycoXuli like the archos' case personally, except i wish it had a blank aluminum front instead of a wordy plastic one
01:57:36hardeepvmars: i've never seen an ondio and have no idea how well it's firmware works. But if the AJBR is any indication, it's full of bugs
01:57:41devZer0ric: how will that fit ?
01:58:24ricIIlike a soap box?
01:58:31devZer0psy: i don`t like the case at all. i like "clean" designs. wonder why i didn`t buy an iPod :D THAT is really nice design!
01:58:43PsycoXulheh
01:59:02ricIIdevZer0 no rockbox, no plain 2"5 drive..
01:59:03 Join ClosetPacifist [0] (trevorsa@ppp06.ts1.Exmore.visi.net)
01:59:03PsycoXulwell one of the things that went into my decision on the archos was it's ruggedness
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02:00:29PsycoXuli don't like plastic stuff that'll scatter all over the floor if you drop it heh
02:00:40devZer0ric: ...no usb2.0.... and much more expensive. thats why i decided to buy archos jb :D
02:00:41vmarshardeep: heh, no doubt ... I can't imagine the firmware would be too different, as they appear ro have the same funcitonality
02:01:23devZer0vmwars: rockbox is more stable !
02:01:48devZer0i have less crashes when playing and recording with that. the original firmware is crap - really !
02:01:50ricIIactuly I wanted a metalcase, but I don't have the tools to make it..
02:02:04devZer0ric: want a metal case, too
02:03:11vmarshas anyone tried to put rockbox on an Ondio?
02:03:25devZer0this is nice metalcase: http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/pics/usb20_hdd.jpg - unfortunately too small for archos and not available "separate"
02:03:30hardeepvmars: it wouldn't work... completely different hardware
02:05:37vmarshardeep: hmmm... is there somewhere where they have the hardware specs for an Ondio? (I just got mine yesterday, and don't wanna pull it apart *just* yet :-) )
02:06:45hardeepvmars: i'm not sure. however, there's obvious differences like flash vs. hard drive
02:07:07ClosetPacifistdon't suppose anyone here's tried to get a recorder running on Mac OS X? Cypress's drivers make my tower spit errors and stop at startup...
02:07:33vmarshardeep: yeah, but isn't the harddrive still accesses as a mass storage device, menus look the same
02:09:12wethionClosetPacifist: there is a #osx available that may be of some help if no one here can.
02:09:59wethionClosetPacifist: I (just) got it running on Debian, so OS X should be at least possible.
02:10:34wethionClosetPacifist: can you recompile kernels in OS X?
02:11:16devZer0can one recompile kernels in nt and win2k/xp ? ;)
02:12:17wethiondevZer0: Bleh. smartass. :) OS X is just unix with a pretty shell over it, so I thought it may be possible.
02:13:05wethionHrm, now there's an idea.. I wonder if anyone has ever tried to build an open source win2k kernel?
02:13:33ClosetPacifistDOH! blasted xchat, thought the yellow text was messages or something
02:17:57hardeepvmars: i don't believe flash based players use fat32 for their filesystem though
02:18:05devZer0weth: i saw such project, but can`t remember the name anymore
02:18:40hardeepClosetPacifist: you may want to check out http://groups.yahoo.com/group/archosjukebox6000/
02:18:46devZer0but - do we need that. if wine would run perfect we wouldn`t need :D
02:18:59vmarshardeep: one of archos's firmware updates allows fat32, so its possible
02:19:20hardeepvmars: hmmm, interesting.
02:19:25vmarsany idea how badly I could break this thing if I started plopping on various firmwares?
02:19:25wethionI haven't looked at wine in a while.. how is it goint?
02:19:36hardeepvmars: are the firmware upgrades done in a similar way?
02:19:43ClosetPacifisthardeep: looked through that earlier, but couldn't find anything like my problem
02:19:46hardeepvmars: as the AJBR that is... drop a file in the root folder
02:19:55vmarshardeep: yep, same filename and everything
02:20:10vmarshardeep: mine looks to be about twice the size of the rockbox one
02:20:18hardeepvmars: you really won't do any damage dropping the firmware in... give it a try. :)
02:20:52devZer0weth: making little steps...going forward..... there is somewhat commercially "enhanced" wine which makes office2k, ie, visio run on linux
02:21:00vmarshardeep: heh, I'm not sure if I trust you. :-)
02:21:12devZer0its called crossover office. but thats somewhat offtopic. this is #rockbox :D
02:21:21hardeepvmars: the worse that can happen is that it doesn't load... then you just delete it
02:21:30vmarshardeep: will it still register as a USB mass storage device if I bork the firmware?
02:21:54vmarshardeep: or I guess it wil just not load and keep the old firmware in that case ....
02:21:57hardeepvmars: the rom firmware will load
02:22:15hardeepvmars: so rockbox won't have any affect on usb
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02:22:48vmarshardeep: hell, I'll give it a try when I get home (no us cable w/ me)
02:23:08vmarshardeep: have you guys done anything with the FM version of the ajbr?
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02:25:19hardeepvmars: zagor built a version that was recognized by the FM recorder
02:25:31hardeepso it's certainly possible
02:25:43hardeepbut more information is needed about the hardware used
02:26:02hardeep(someone needs to open the case and take some pictures)
02:26:43vmarshmm ... it would be fun if I could get this to work on the Ondio
02:27:16vmarsparticularly if I could monkey with the FM bits of it, as it seems a little bogus
02:27:50hardeepzagor and linus are the guys to talk to... they can tell you what info would help
02:28:06hardeepif you're willing to open the case and stuff that is
02:31:08vmarsyeah, it was only 150 bucks, so no huge tragedy if a break it
02:31:24devZer0150$ for the fm juke ?
02:31:33vmarsno the Ondio
02:31:40devZer0oh, pardon
02:31:43vmarsit has the same fm recorder features though
02:32:21vmarsI just posted a inquiry to the main mailing list to see if anyone has any ideas
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02:40:17vmarsoh well, thanks for the info
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02:58:29devZer0bye - have to leave for bed. CU soon.
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03:15:11Jet8810hey guys
03:15:13Jet8810anybody life?
03:15:14Jet8810live
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03:26:26Jet8810heh, this really does suck...not only do I leave my archos 20gb recorder mp3 player ($270) on an airplane, but there are no true upgrades anyway, so will end up repurchasing the same device lol
03:26:34Jet8810now IF rockbox supported the FM recorder...lol
03:27:12PsycoXulelectric yellow's got me by the brain bannana
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03:29:51Jet8810lol
03:29:52Jet8810ok...
03:30:47ClosetPacifistthanks for the suggestions earlier- odly, when I reinstalled the drivers and restarted, it worked fine.
03:31:09Jet8810hmm
03:31:15Jet8810I see you now accept donations
03:31:17Jet8810who do they go to?
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04:08:24EGM92Hi isanyone here?
04:08:43*ClosetPacifist is.
04:09:26EGM92great!!
04:09:58EGM92HI, I just boghut a Jukebox 6000 20GB and I got some questions that the manual can't answer would u help me?
04:10:37ClosetPacifistI'll try, sure.
04:11:31EGM92ok, I hooked it up to the DC adaptor now, it says "battery charging..." how do I know when it's done charging?
04:12:17ClosetPacifistit'll change that to say "battery charged."
04:13:07EGM92oh ok, but untill then I won't be able to turn it on right?
04:14:17ClosetPacifistwell, if you turn it on normally and then plug in the adaptor you'll be able to use it anyway, or if you install the rockbox firmware you can press on while it's charging todo so
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04:16:00EGM92ok, sweet, problem is... I don't know how install firmware on this thing yet, I created the directory .rockbox, and put in the ARCHOS.MOD file but what am I supposed to do after that?
04:16:46ClosetPacifistcool- only thing you've got wrong is that the archos.mod file has to go into the root directory of the jukebox, not in the .rockbox folder
04:17:03ClosetPacifistthen when you turn it on it should use rockbox
04:17:17EGM92oh I see hold on let me do that then
04:20:08EGM92ok I put the archos.mod in the root directory
04:20:22EGM92After I do that how can I use it while it's cahrging?
04:20:50ClosetPacifistwhen it displays "battery charging..." you just hold down the on key for a bit
04:21:05EGM92which key?
04:21:59ClosetPacifistack- think the on key, not sure about the player
04:22:43PsycoXulindeed, the On key
04:23:05EGM92ok I heldthe "on" key and now it activated the HDD and it took me to a screen, "Jukebox 6gb ver: 5.02" and that's it
04:23:21PsycoXuluh it should keep going.. no matter what heh
04:23:48EGM92....
04:24:57EGM92it doesn't take me any further then that
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04:25:26PsycoXulis the harddrive spinning up all the way? or is it trying over and over?
04:25:59EGM92well.. I don't know it's the first time using it
04:26:17EGM92I hear the hardrive its gonig like tick tick tick tick tick
04:26:25PsycoXulok
04:26:35PsycoXulthen it doesn't have enough power to spin up
04:26:46PsycoXulyou need to let it charge up longer heh
04:27:15EGM92ok lol, but I got the DC adaptor
04:27:22PsycoXulthat just charges
04:27:43PsycoXulthe HD spinning up still takes more power than the charging circuit provides, so the batteries need to have enough power to do it
04:27:49EGM92oh ok so I'll leave it cahrge for another 5 hours and then it should start spinning?
04:27:59PsycoXulyeah
04:28:06EGM92ok thanks guys
04:28:09PsycoXulbut make sure to turn it off so the hd's not sucking the power trying to spin up
04:28:12PsycoXulheh
04:29:27EGM92ummm... Well it's charging now, it says "BATTERY CAHRGING..."
04:29:31PsycoXulok
04:30:55EGM92Damn, I wantd to get a recorder but I didn't have the money for it, would come in usefull for playnig those ltile games
04:31:03EGM92little games*
04:44:54PsycoXulheh yeah
04:44:55PsycoXuloh well
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05:59:25secherls
05:59:41secherhey folks, is there anyone watching?
05:59:51PsycoXuli just came in in time to see you
05:59:52PsycoXulmwahahhaha
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06:00:15secherOk, was wethion doing anything for the past 15 minutes or so?
06:00:50PsycoXulnobody did anything for a full 40 minutes before you joined
06:01:53secherOk, some dude tried to DCC me, I told him to bugger off, and suddenly my network connection was flooded. After I shutdown and rebooted, I logged in and my nick was taken. Very off..
06:01:58sechers/odd/off/
06:02:15PsycoXulhmm
06:02:34PsycoXulis that the nick wethion?
06:02:51secherYes.
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06:03:28sechersomeone was DOSing another host on my subnet via me. ethereal reported well over a thousand packets a minute.
06:03:40PsycoXulweird
06:04:02secherOk, I have to see how they did it, and make sure that nothing was left. Thanks.
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09:53:47dwihno*yawn*
09:54:34Zagorhttp://bjorn.haxx.se/linuxcstrike.jpg
09:54:50dwihnoHow are you Z? Had a nice vacation?
09:54:51Zagorwine rocks
09:55:04Zagoryup, very nice
09:55:20Zagori love real winters
09:55:41dwihnoSo you left Stockholm? :-)
09:56:06dwihnoI got a water boiler this christmas, so now my tea addiction will never end :-)
09:56:12Zagorhah, yes. but we have a great winter here too. plenty of snow and cold weather
09:57:08dwihnoHow do you make all rockbox-related mails go to a separate mailbox?
09:57:17Zagorprocmail
09:57:28dwihnoah
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10:01:51hardeepanyone know of a good mp3 editor for win32? preferably freeware
10:03:36dwihnomp3 editor?
10:03:48dwihnoThere's some frame editing software which is free
10:03:56Zagori don't
10:04:17hardeepdwihno: yeah, that's what i'm looking for
10:04:23dwihnohardeep: wait and I'll check
10:09:43dwihnohardeep: http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~pesch/ (mp3DirectCut is the name)
10:10:02hardeepcool, thanks
10:22:52hardeepworked beautifully, thanks again. :)
10:23:56dwihnoNo problemo
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11:48:12adi|homeZagor.. just wanted you to know before i went to sleep
11:48:22adi|homei oughta slap you for running gnome :)
11:49:16adi|homeafterstep > Zagor
11:49:22*adi|home is away: sleep
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12:23:50Zagorhow do you guys feel about publishing the names of donors? such as a small frame listing the 5 latest?
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12:30:46elinenbeZagor: sounds good.
12:30:59elinenbeZagor: did you get the $10000 USD donation from me?
12:40:10Zagornot yet :)
12:51:46dwihnoZagor: how much has been donated?
12:53:35Zagorover $300
12:54:59langhaarrockerand how much is the MMJB? :)
12:55:31Zagorhehe
12:55:40Hadakawhoa, debian's 'gcc' jumped from 2.95 to 3.2.2 today
12:55:53Zagorstable?
12:56:05langhaarrockerneigh
12:56:12langhaarrocker(just kidding)
12:56:43Hadakaunstable
12:56:52Zagorok
12:57:10Hadakabut this means that all packages compiled will use 3.2.2 instead of 2.95 since they compile with 'gcc' unless otherwise noted
12:57:23Zagoryes
12:57:39Zagor3.2 has some rocking good optimisations
12:58:07Hadakanetbsd is jumping from 2.95 to 3.3 "soon" ;)
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13:09:38*dwihno knows nothing about compilers.
13:09:46dwihno"As long as they compile the code"... :-)
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13:38:56EGM92Hey guyys, I left my JB cahrging alst nigt when I woke up there was a msg on the screen like MD ERROR or HD ERROR I couldn't really see i was still gettting up, waht does this mean? i can't turn it on if I unplug the JB
13:40:26EGM92When I got up I heard the hardrive trying to spin, but it wouldn't fully spin and it was at that screen
13:43:54EGM92I need to get this baby up and running so I can get all my tunes in here, I'm able to use it to store stuff at the moment, like my porgrams and stuff but nothing more
13:44:28langhaarrockerIt does work with the power adapter plugged in?
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14:46:07kargatronZagor_: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439118&aid=649549
14:46:16kargatroni don't suppose you grabbed that track referenced there?
14:46:31kargatronwhile i was on vacation, my web host lost all data
14:46:44kargatronso i'm wondering whether I should upload the problem track again
14:47:57Zagor_i think i have it at home
14:48:10Zagor_but i'm not sure
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14:48:24kargatronwell, i'll try to ask later to make sure
14:48:54kargatronsince i renamed the track, i don't actually remember which one it was :-/, tho i guess i could easily find another where %ig is null
14:48:55kargatronno biggie
14:49:02Zagorok
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15:35:10kargatroni asked yesterday about the program that fixed the VBR headers, don't remember if it was answered - anyone know offhand?
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15:51:25Zagorwasn't it called vbrfix or some such?
15:53:40kargatrongoogle seems to think so :)
15:54:48kargatronthx
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16:02:25Zagorchrist! load average: 23.77, 12.40, 6.30
16:02:37dwihnoCool :D
16:02:43dwihnoLoad average for everyone!
16:02:58Schnueffwow, nice curve
16:03:09Zagorthat's my apartment web server. apparently the whole of sweden stops working at 4pm and starts hitting my server...
16:03:35_2deep4u_load average: 0.31, 0.26, 0.27
16:03:39_2deep4u_;o)
16:04:02langhaarrockerNo unix -> no load ...
16:04:27kargatronno unix -> no understandy above :)
16:04:36_2deep4u_unix - still don't understand
16:05:34langhaarrockerdon't want load average, want save peak...
16:10:59_2deep4u_I just told thi skid to use napster
16:11:06_2deep4u_and he is searching google for a dl
16:11:45kargatronnapster remains in some usable form? thought it was completely defunct
16:13:51_2deep4u_it's extinct
16:13:55_2deep4u_which is why it's funny
16:15:09kargatronmisleading advice is funny? depends on the situation, but <scold>usually not</scold>
16:15:25_2deep4u_:)
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17:54:28strwdleI need some assitance
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18:12:23strwdlecould somebody please give me some advice?
18:14:19kargatronemail might be your better bet, given lack of response here
18:14:30strwdlewell I tried ng's
18:14:40strwdlebut for some reason my posts don't show up
18:15:03kargatrontry the yahoogroup archosjukebox6000, or the rockbox email list
18:15:28strwdleokedokes
18:15:29strwdlethanks
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18:30:42hardeepmorning all
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19:34:08BeanTownTonyis there a meeting in progress? :)
19:35:18BeanTownTony******* I just wanted to give you guys props. I was about
19:35:42BeanTownTony******* to take this piece of shit back to the store. Keep it up!
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20:51:10Zagordoes anyone know if it's ok for foo@host.bar.com, that host.bar.com does not have an MX record?
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20:51:27Zagorif host.bar.com is a specific host
20:54:21hardeepif the MX record doesn't exist... doesn't it just use the standard ip address mapping (A record iirc)
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20:56:37Zagori don't know. that's why i'm asking :-)
20:56:40hardeepyeah, that's how it works... see: http://lists.megacity.org/pipermail/rfci-discuss/2002-June/000720.html
20:57:08Zagorah, goodie. so actually one should first look for an A entry and then an MX entry
20:57:21Zagoroh, no. mx first.
20:57:26Zagorthanks
20:57:27hardeepmx first, nod
20:58:02Zagorjust curious, how did you search to find that. i couldn't convince google to find anything related.
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21:03:15hardeepi think i searched for "no mx record"
21:10:52Zagorbah. too simple :-)
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21:44:20EGM92Hey is anyone aronud?
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21:47:11kargatroni suppose i must answer yes, though fear such fact may not be relevant :)
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21:52:24EGM92lol
21:53:46EGM92I got a question about mt JB 6000
21:55:10EGM92I left it charging over night and when I woke up I got a message MD error, or HD ERROR something like that, I couldn't really see it I was still waking up when I unplugged the DC adaptor and tried to press the ON button nothing happened, and when I plugged in the DC again it said bATTERY CHARGING... any specific reason for this?
21:56:34*adi|work shrugs
21:56:46EGM92damn
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22:28:20EGM92is there anyone who is willing to help me with some questions? if so please PM me
22:31:30kargatronpost the subkject matter - individuals know some stuff, but only Zagor knows all :)
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22:34:30EGM92ah Ic, is he a programmer for Rockbox?
22:36:15kargatronthe main one, but in any case, no one knows to try to help you unless you say what you need help with.
22:36:34EGM92lol
22:36:34EGM92k
22:39:39EGM92Well I got some question about the battery, I've charged it for a long while yesterday from like 6pm to like 7 this morning and when I woke up i looked at it and it gave me a message, when I tried to turn it on, it didn't turn on the green light didn't even flash, how do i know if it's actually charging? it says "BATTERY CAHRGING..." right now, but it the LCD screen green light supposed to be off? or is it supposed to be on when i
22:42:03Zagordo you have it here now?
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22:47:51ZagorEGM92: ?
22:53:39Hadakahmh, pilchie apparently wanted to speak to me four and a half hours away
22:54:00Zagorbrowsing logs, eh? ;)
22:54:08Hadakaerr, different channel, but yes :)
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23:40:12kargatronspeaking (list-wise) of this path 'problem', does dos 'dir' have a relative path option? can't find it...
23:46:40MrSnazzrelative, as in doing a dir relative to the currently selected directory?
23:47:16MrSnazzif I were in c:\foo\bar, and wanted a directory of c:\winnt\system32, I could type "dir ..\..\winnt\system32" and get a directory, yes.
23:48:11kargatronrelative path output
23:48:42kargatronbeing in foo\bar, and not getting that in outputted path
23:49:40MrSnazzsorry, don't understand what you mean. :)
23:51:07kargatroninstead getting of c:\foo\bar\file1, c:\foo\bar\file2, just getting file1, file2 list output
23:51:31kargatronwas in reference to recent list-noise about the problem of wrong paths
23:52:09MrSnazzdir /B
23:52:49MrSnazzto exclude directories, dir /A-D /B
23:52:58MrSnazzyeilds only a list of files
23:53:40MrSnazzI tested this with the winnt command prompt, so mileage may varry.
23:54:54kargatronah, but dir /S /B always includes full path
23:54:59kargatronthat's what was throwing me
23:55:07MrSnazzah
23:55:20kargatronis still throwing me, regarding 'dir'
23:55:37MrSnazzhmm, not sure of a way around that using dir.
23:55:46kargatronmy original qstn :)
23:55:49MrSnazz;)
23:57:32Zagorgo to the directory. run dir. presto, relative paths
23:58:23kargatronE:\The Vault\Alternative\Beck>dir /B /S
23:58:23kargatrondir /B /S
23:58:23kargatronE:\The Vault\Alternative\Beck\Beck - 05 - Live at W 54th - Debra.mp3
23:58:23DBUGEnqueued KICK kargatron
23:58:23kargatronE:\The Vault\Alternative\Beck\Beck - 09 - Live at W 54th - Derelict.mp3
23:58:50kargatronno see-ey relativey

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