00:00:58 | astrashe | I'm listening to my first rockbox mp3 −− thanks again |
00:01:11 | ricII | maybe put a survey on the site, so we could figure out the best default contrast? |
00:04:25 | astrashe | bye... thanks again |
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00:08:45 | Jet8810 | do they make both an Archos Studio FM and Recorder FM? |
00:09:15 | MeRWiN | nope |
00:09:17 | MeRWiN | just recorder |
00:11:17 | Jet8810 | ok jus tmaking sure |
00:11:34 | Jet8810 | I....LOVE....WIFI... |
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01:00:26 | PDAJunkiedotnet | has the mailing list gone down with mysql bug? |
01:01:51 | PsycoXul | it's an mssql bug isn't it? |
01:02:11 | PsycoXul | and does the mailing list even use sql? |
01:02:47 | ricII | majordomo uses mysql ?? |
01:03:09 | ricII | must been away to long :) |
01:03:25 | webmind | iex |
01:03:37 | webmind | majordomo can i hope use sth else then mysql ? |
01:04:19 | PsycoXul | haha wtf |
01:04:24 | PsycoXul | some chick calls |
01:04:27 | PsycoXul | and it's the wrong number |
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01:05:08 | PsycoXul | "is this blah blah 5692?" "no it's 5622" "oh sorry... so whats up... are you single?" |
01:05:55 | langhaarrocker | many singles fit onto one jukebox |
01:06:09 | ricII | sounds like an userfriendly commic... |
01:07:30 | webmind | hardly |
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01:12:45 | PsycoXul | man this sucks |
01:12:55 | PsycoXul | i've having to rm stuff on my archos to make room for more stuff |
01:13:12 | PsycoXul | i'm glad my mom spent the little extra to get the 20G instead of the 6G :p |
01:13:55 | langhaarrocker | I'm glad I found someone to sell my 6GB drive to :) |
01:14:01 | Nibbler | :) |
01:14:06 | PsycoXul | oh yeah |
01:14:10 | Nibbler | it took like 10h to fill my 15gig hd |
01:14:14 | PsycoXul | i should see how much 20G drives are going for on ebay |
01:14:22 | PsycoXul | see if i can upgrade cheaply |
01:14:22 | PsycoXul | heh |
01:14:24 | Nibbler | and still i have stuff i want to put on it and would have to delete for that :( |
01:15:26 | PsycoXul | i need like 20 more MB free to copy these new things to it.. dunno where to take it from heh |
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01:16:58 | PsycoXul | oh here we go there's 89mb of something i never listen to heh |
01:17:15 | ricII | isn't there a 2nd channel on the usb-ata bridge... :) |
01:18:07 | langhaarrocker | The actual size of a hard drive doesn't matter. The half-life remains the same. |
01:18:26 | ricII | backpack a large 3.5" with batteries.. |
01:19:55 | PsycoXul | heh |
01:19:59 | langhaarrocker | believe me: within two months you'd be craving for more space |
01:20:26 | PsycoXul | well |
01:20:37 | PsycoXul | i'm pretty picky about my music |
01:20:52 | PsycoXul | it's taken me years to get 20G worth |
01:22:09 | PsycoXul | cp: cannot create directory `/mnt/jb/Oneys/T\202l\202popmusik': Invalid argument |
01:22:12 | PsycoXul | bleh |
01:30:02 | PsycoXul | there |
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01:31:02 | PsycoXul | ./Beck/Mutations |
01:31:02 | PsycoXul | ./Eels/Electro-Shock Blues |
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01:31:02 | PsycoXul | ./Telepopmusik/Genetic World |
01:31:02 | PsycoXul | ./Pink Floyd/Syd Barrett/The Madcap Laughs |
01:31:04 | PsycoXul | ./Pink Floyd/Saucerful of Secrets |
01:31:06 | PsycoXul | ./Pink Floyd/Ummagumma |
01:31:14 | PsycoXul | now if only it'll umount and not lock up here or anything heh... |
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01:32:32 | PsycoXul | woo |
01:41:31 | PsycoXul | so the 20G's are going for ~$100 on ebay |
01:41:48 | PsycoXul | and there's a 40G buy it now for $139 and thats just the first one i found |
01:42:03 | PsycoXul | so i could double my space for $40 and maybe less heh |
01:54:01 | s0be | PsycoXul: The 40G ones(I believe) are modified and don't have any sort of waranty with them |
01:55:14 | PsycoXul | i'm looking at bare harddrives |
01:55:19 | PsycoXul | heh |
01:55:23 | s0be | ook |
01:55:31 | s0be | you can just smack me with a trout now |
01:55:40 | PsycoXul | i don't use trouts |
01:55:42 | PsycoXul | thats a mirc thing |
01:55:57 | PsycoXul | i tend to discorage the use of trout slapping |
01:55:59 | PsycoXul | :p |
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02:11:25 | diddystar5 | hello |
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02:12:24 | diddystar5 | you there |
02:13:53 | s0be | PsycoXul: ok, good call... I'm used to hanging around in a room wih a bunch of trout heads |
02:14:01 | PsycoXul | hehe |
02:15:54 | diddystar5 | hehe could you tell me how to add the chip8 games? do i need to use "#include (something)" in a file? i am using cygwin |
02:16:08 | PsycoXul | no clue |
02:16:33 | diddystar5 | darn |
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02:19:34 | PsycoXul | heh |
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02:36:50 | PsycoXul | http://www.tshirthell.com/images/contestpics/a102_001.jpg |
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02:40:12 | moose-man | Hey peeps, Im a noob here with a new Archos fm recorder. Sorry for being a dickhead noob asking question,but i was hoping somebody could assist me |
02:40:39 | PsycoXul | fm recorder's only work with rockbox while plugged in right now |
02:40:59 | PsycoXul | because they use a different kind of battery, the power handling code thinks it's dead otherwise |
02:41:49 | moose-man | ahh i see, is this in all the versions, or just 1.x through 1.4 ? |
02:42:16 | PsycoXul | afaik 1.4 doesn't work at all on it actualy |
02:42:20 | PsycoXul | or earlier |
02:42:30 | PsycoXul | this is with the cvs/daily builds |
02:43:03 | moose-man | So if i may ask, what do you suggest? |
02:43:31 | PsycoXul | wait a week for it to get tweeked to the point of working normal |
02:43:31 | PsycoXul | heh |
02:44:20 | moose-man | Is it normal for the unit to not able to do anything other than charge while plugged in, in other words im unable to actually turn it on and use it while it is plugged in. |
02:44:31 | PsycoXul | hmm |
02:44:34 | PsycoXul | dunno, that sounds weird |
02:44:44 | PsycoXul | it should work hehe |
02:45:02 | moose-man | Should i go ahead and remove the firmware then? |
02:45:12 | PsycoXul | remove which firmware? heh |
02:45:37 | moose-man | The rocks 1.4 |
02:45:41 | PsycoXul | oh probably |
02:45:41 | PsycoXul | hehe |
02:45:48 | moose-man | and put back the 1.3 from archos ? |
02:46:04 | PsycoXul | i mean if rockbox only works while it's plugged in and the unit won't turned on while plugged in i guess there's no use to having rockbox on there yet :p |
02:46:23 | PsycoXul | and like i said i don't think 1.4 works on it at all |
02:46:36 | PsycoXul | there were some other issues that have been solved since 1.4 |
02:47:11 | PsycoXul | heh |
02:47:12 | PsycoXul | http://www.tshirthell.com/images/contestpics/a44_001.jpg |
02:47:27 | PsycoXul | that t-shirt reads "if you're already this close why don't you just suck my dick" |
02:47:44 | moose-man | If i completely remove everything without having the .ajz file, will it do anything? |
02:48:01 | PsycoXul | it'll boot to the in-rom firmware |
02:48:16 | moose-man | So is it cool if i just completely remove it all ? |
02:48:19 | PsycoXul | it always boots to the in-rom firmware anyway, it's just the in-rom firmware checks for the .ajz and loads it if its there |
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02:49:00 | PsycoXul | yeah but the in-rom firmware's older than the .ajz it came with if it came with an .ajz heh |
02:49:58 | PsycoXul | http://www.tshirthell.com/images/contestpics/a64_002.jpg |
02:50:32 | MeRWiN | wwjd for a klondike bar :-) |
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02:52:38 | moose-man | When i have the unit plugged in, it will not let me do anything, if i turn it on, it flashes and just shows the charging screen as you can see here moose.svidergol.com/mp3.jpg |
02:53:10 | moose-man | Sorry about the low quality |
02:53:15 | MeRWiN | moose-man: what are you trying to do? |
02:53:43 | moose-man | Well what im asking is if its normal for the player not to load and play music while it is plugged in. |
02:53:46 | MeRWiN | moose-man: you should be able to use it while it's charging |
02:53:53 | MeRWiN | moose-man: my fm recorder can |
02:54:08 | MeRWiN | you might try starting it up first and then plugging it in |
02:54:09 | MeRWiN | :) |
02:54:27 | moose-man | Trying now.... |
02:54:33 | PsycoXul | i can see me in the background |
02:54:48 | PsycoXul | is that 4 mousepads? |
02:54:49 | PsycoXul | heh |
02:55:13 | moose-man | MeRWiN: Excellent. It is working that way :) |
02:55:49 | moose-man | Fella's thanks for your help, i know its annoying as hell dealing with n[][]bs ¶='Þ |
02:58:04 | moose-man | Ahh transfering 6 gigs through USB 1.0, time to get my snickers bar out |
02:58:15 | PsycoXul | hehe |
02:58:57 | moose-man | 84 minutes left, wahoo! |
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03:00:22 | PsycoXul | 668M mp3 |
03:00:25 | PsycoXul | hey thats convenient |
03:00:27 | * | PsycoXul burns it |
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03:12:45 | moose-man | ok thanks for your help everybody, have a goodone, im sure ill be back later |
03:12:46 | moose-man | Peace |
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03:39:58 | sansa | Hi all. |
03:40:08 | webmind | hiya |
03:40:43 | sansa | Has anybody else noticed their battery lasting a bit longer with rockbox? |
03:40:59 | webmind | yes they have :) |
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03:56:37 | PDAJunkiedotnet | heh |
03:56:48 | PDAJunkiedotnet | I will notice batteries lasting a little longer with 2100 mah batts :) |
03:57:09 | sansa | Where did you get yours? |
03:58:37 | webmind | heh |
03:58:42 | webmind | batteries or archos ? |
03:59:29 | sansa | PDAJunkiedotnet: batteries. |
03:59:44 | PDAJunkiedotnet | umm |
03:59:46 | PDAJunkiedotnet | you can scoure ebay |
03:59:46 | PDAJunkiedotnet | or |
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04:00:00 | PDAJunkiedotnet | get 4 for $15 http://www.thomas-distributing.com there |
04:00:12 | sansa | Danke. |
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04:24:42 | Guest | I see a number of Archos Player hard drive web pages. Is there one for the FM Recorder? Is it different? |
04:25:20 | PDAJunkiedotnet | www.archos.com :) |
04:26:18 | Guest | Sorry, I meant a page on upgrading the HD from the stock 20gb to, say, 40gb? |
04:31:14 | ricII | hmm *un)shuffle robs my sleep.. |
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04:33:44 | webmind | ej |
04:33:44 | webmind | life |
04:33:47 | ricII | what if I just store parent.offset in my file, I will always be able to find that. |
04:34:01 | webmind | all the freaks live at night :) |
04:34:06 | ricII | :) |
04:34:26 | webmind | still busy with playlist ? |
04:35:11 | ricII | yep considerd about 6 way to work around my prob.. |
04:35:27 | webmind | ah.. so choose the best one ? |
04:36:26 | ricII | problem is there are a lot of side factors to consider.. |
04:36:46 | webmind | uhuh |
04:39:11 | ricII | now lets see if I can do 'all' with this approach |
04:41:13 | webmind | hm k |
04:41:25 | ricII | main problem was unshuffle & resume with mixed mode inserts |
04:41:41 | webmind | uhm k |
04:43:35 | ricII | unshuffle would now mean: qsort orginal m3u, replay patches |
04:44:14 | webmind | qsort ? |
04:44:25 | ricII | quicksort.. |
04:44:29 | webmind | ah |
04:44:32 | webmind | unshuffle.. sorry |
04:46:27 | PsycoXul | whats all this about anyway |
04:46:27 | PsycoXul | heh |
04:47:12 | ricII | PsycoXul: new playlist code, featuring queue,insert, append & delete. |
04:47:19 | PsycoXul | heh |
04:47:32 | PsycoXul | what exactly is queuing |
04:47:37 | PsycoXul | hows it different from a playlist |
04:48:01 | ricII | play after this song but don't make it permanent as insert would |
04:48:07 | PsycoXul | heh |
04:48:13 | PsycoXul | is that really worth so much trouble |
04:48:33 | webmind | yes |
04:48:36 | PsycoXul | why not just support some sorta tags in the playlist that allow changing of settings and other useful things and include one that says "remove this track from playlist after playing it" |
04:48:40 | ricII | it would make us able to create playlists on the fly.. |
04:48:40 | webmind | it's a lovely feature |
04:49:16 | PsycoXul | on the fly playlists is great |
04:49:23 | PsycoXul | but they're still just files on the disk |
04:49:36 | ricII | aswell recursion |
04:49:50 | PsycoXul | that sounds more like something specific to the playlist building UI |
04:50:11 | PsycoXul | not something for the backend to worry about |
04:50:14 | PsycoXul | but i dunno |
04:50:54 | ricII | backend sould deliver hooks like insert,append (and be able to handle shuffle & resume) |
04:51:01 | PsycoXul | imo everything should be as simple and generic as possible... maybe you're trying to go for that, but to me it doesn't really sound like it heh |
04:51:11 | PsycoXul | how is shuffle and resume a problem for the playlist backend |
04:51:55 | PsycoXul | shuffle's just done with random indexes isn't it? |
04:52:14 | ricII | resume must recreate the state from scratch.. |
04:52:25 | PsycoXul | yeah |
04:52:33 | PsycoXul | well thats why the playlist as created is saved to a file |
04:52:41 | PsycoXul | the random seed is saved to recreate the same shuffle |
04:52:54 | PsycoXul | and the resume index is saved to say where to start back from |
04:53:07 | PsycoXul | whats the problem? |
04:53:09 | ricII | but this is linear in time.. shuffle distroys this. |
04:53:22 | PsycoXul | huh? |
04:53:37 | PsycoXul | we've had working resuming shuffled playlists for a long time |
04:53:40 | ricII | aspecialy when people start to insert while in shuffle mode.. |
04:53:51 | PsycoXul | ah i see |
04:53:55 | ricII | I known :( |
04:54:21 | PsycoXul | adding to it after shuffling is messy |
04:54:22 | PsycoXul | heh |
04:54:56 | ricII | yep |
04:55:36 | PsycoXul | yeah i remember adding to a playlist that i had shut off while playing shuffled |
04:55:46 | PsycoXul | and turning it back on and it resumed to a different song, totally different shuffle |
04:57:14 | PsycoXul | so how do you get around that |
04:57:19 | ricII | user has 1.2.3.4.5 shuffles 2.5.3.4.1 add 6.7 after 3, 2.5.3.6.7.4.1 unshuflled sould be 1.2.3.6.7.4.5 |
04:57:35 | PsycoXul | hmm |
04:57:36 | PsycoXul | heh |
04:58:46 | ricII | i can do that now... |
04:59:06 | ricII | using less memory.. |
04:59:40 | PsycoXul | so say they have 1.2.3.4.5 shufflesd 2.3.5.4.1 adds 6.7 after 3 and unshuffled should be 1.2.3.6.7.4.5 but what if they really wanted to add 6.7 before 5 and want it to unshuffle to 1.2.3.4.6.7.5? :p |
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05:00:06 | PDAJunkiedotnet | wtf...? |
05:00:07 | PDAJunkiedotnet | lol |
05:00:45 | ricII | we have to define a insert before next song & a insert after this song button. code has no problem here. |
05:00:58 | PsycoXul | heh |
05:01:22 | PsycoXul | seems weird to attatch insertions to either of the songs surrounding them to me |
05:02:41 | ricII | seems weird to me to in shuffle mode, but I want to do something sensible for 'insert' which means play after what I hearing now.. |
05:03:12 | PsycoXul | if you're shuffling a playlist, it sortof implies that the original playlist is sorta linear |
05:03:43 | ricII | so are all modifications (in time) |
05:03:47 | PsycoXul | and if you're inserting to it while shuffling you could be either adding a spot of linearity or adding more effectively randomness |
05:04:30 | PsycoXul | in either case it seems to me like it should unshuffle back to a linear playlist |
05:04:30 | ricII | random insert would more mean append as play somewhere after this.. |
05:04:50 | PsycoXul | well i mean linear and random as in track order |
05:04:58 | PsycoXul | 1.2.3.4.5 vs 5.3.1.4.2 |
05:05:09 | ricII | considerd that to, but linerty is found in the file offset... |
05:05:29 | PsycoXul | ok |
05:05:55 | ricII | only thing to consider is insert after a queued song, this parent gets deleted.. |
05:06:24 | PsycoXul | so it boils down to something inserted into a shuffled playlist is in limbo for unshuffling and you just wanna do something reasonable with it, so you attatch it to before or after tracks |
05:07:02 | PsycoXul | ricII: heh |
05:07:16 | ricII | yep.. |
05:07:46 | ricII | and ofcourse take care of my other problems aswell... |
05:07:54 | PsycoXul | personally i'd just sort the limbo insertions in with the alphabetical linearity of the original playlist or something heh |
05:08:03 | PsycoXul | when unshuffling |
05:09:24 | ricII | but what if a user startoff in normal mode insert a few specific songs, shuffles and unshuffles, souldn't that undo the shuffling.. |
05:09:49 | PsycoXul | well yeah but the inserted songs aren't in limbo if they were done before shuffling |
05:09:56 | PsycoXul | they're already a static part of the playlist |
05:10:03 | ricII | true... |
05:11:05 | ricII | but I would like to have its behavoir defined... |
05:11:58 | PsycoXul | well yeah that'd be nice hehe |
05:14:40 | ricII | since a queued songs deletion is anotated, (and insertion must have happend before) there souldn't be a problem using it's offset as a parrent... |
05:17:11 | ricII | hmm no extra memory needed, only the resume codes gets a little slower |
05:44:19 | PDAJunkiedotnet | hmm |
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05:44:31 | PDAJunkiedotnet | is the patch added in where a playlist is saved as m3u file? |
05:45:23 | ricII | no |
05:46:44 | ricII | it's more a list of patch instructions to playlist (posible empty) to recreate the state in memory |
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05:49:50 | ricII | but it could easly be saved.. |
05:52:04 | ricII | the patch_file is there for recreation on resume and as a filename buffer (eliminating the one in memory) |
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11:37:03 | electronaut | hello, anyone listening? |
11:37:28 | * | Nibbler is |
11:38:47 | electronaut | I've made a progressbar for the player - it goes over a full line and displays playing-time also |
11:39:20 | electronaut | do you think this could be interesting for other people? |
11:39:31 | webmind | couldbe fun |
11:39:37 | Nibbler | sounds nice |
11:39:59 | electronaut | does someone have a player and wants to see it? |
11:40:07 | Nibbler | i dont have a player and dont know its display :| |
11:40:17 | Nibbler | and cant compile uisimulators |
11:40:20 | webmind | i got a player..but afteri dropt ititsnot of much use... |
11:40:49 | Nibbler | :] |
11:40:54 | electronaut | :( |
11:41:20 | Nibbler | if u have a windoze-uisimulator... |
11:41:37 | electronaut | won't compile :( |
11:42:13 | electronaut | the problem is: I've compiled my first firmware two days ago and don't think I'm a great developer |
11:42:24 | electronaut | so there could be bugs |
11:43:15 | electronaut | so I'm asking if someone could check the code and maybe add it to the project |
11:43:27 | Nibbler | just submit the patch? |
11:43:39 | Nibbler | might be easiest |
11:43:55 | electronaut | I have to join sourceforge, or? |
11:44:01 | Nibbler | dunno |
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12:55:33 | breaker | Anyone here with an FM recorder? |
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16:46:22 | SeeSchloss | Hi everybody |
16:46:53 | Nibbler | lo |
16:47:18 | SeeSchloss | Hmm... I remember someone talked about something like "two stages booting" on the mailin list |
16:48:34 | SeeSchloss | I'd like to have this, but it seems like I'm the only one |
16:48:58 | Nibbler | im not on the list, /me goes subscribing |
16:49:01 | Nibbler | whats this about? |
16:50:21 | SeeSchloss | A thing like lilo on a computer : The Archos first boots a small firmware, and this firmware gives you the choice between Archos original firmware or Rockbox |
16:51:23 | Nibbler | hmmm |
16:51:37 | Nibbler | but u can load the original firmware neways from withing rockbox? |
16:51:45 | SeeSchloss | Yes |
16:51:57 | SeeSchloss | but I would like to use it on a FM recorder |
16:52:37 | SeeSchloss | because when the unit is unplugged, I can't boot rockbox, and I can't boot archos either |
16:52:44 | Nibbler | is rockbox anything like usefull on RM recorder already? |
16:54:01 | ricII | SeeSchloss isn't that the wrong way around ? |
16:54:06 | SeeSchloss | Rockbox is really better than archos on FM recorder, except that the backlight acts strangely and that it can't work if the charger is unplugged |
16:55:38 | ricII | rockbox sould be fixed on the FM, and it already has the functionality to boot something else.. |
16:57:31 | SeeSchloss | ok, but I won't be able to access internet from tomorrow morning to friday evening, and I'd like to use rockbox at evenings (with the charger) and archos during the day (when I can't plug the charger) |
16:58:41 | SeeSchloss | do you have a better idea ? |
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17:01:45 | ricII | fix rockbox so it boots, |
17:02:55 | ricII | I heard rockbox thinks the batteries are empty when unplugged... |
17:03:20 | SeeSchloss | ok, good idea. But I have no idea of what I have to do and how to do and... |
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17:08:49 | Scheee | rah pt1 |
17:11:00 | ricII | SeeSchloss you could rename the .ajz before power down.. |
17:11:42 | Scheee | Well I can rename it from Rockbox but I cant rename a file from Archos firmware, can I ? |
17:12:09 | Scheee | hmm I was disconnected, I am SeeSchloss |
17:12:09 | ricII | not sure, but y'r probly right |
17:14:57 | Scheee | no, I cant |
17:17:43 | ricII | so you like to bailout before rockbox starts (after it loaded by the firmware..) |
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17:19:51 | Scheee | bailout ? |
17:20:04 | Scheee | hmm I don't understand :-( |
17:20:52 | ricII | abort, jumpback to firmware rom. |
17:22:14 | Scheee | yes, but I want to be able to boot rockbox if I want, too |
17:22:19 | ricII | when e.g the on key is still pressed.. |
17:23:15 | Scheee | hmm yes |
17:24:14 | ricII | so we need to find the entry point of rockbox & hope archos firmware left us a place to return to. |
17:25:22 | ricII | or you need to find where it checks the batteries & shutsdown and disable that. |
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17:29:25 | SeeSchloss | disconnected again... |
17:32:51 | Nibbler | i keep discon'ing here also :| |
17:33:48 | ricII | hmm what would happen if you disable power_init() in apps/main.c... |
17:34:55 | breaker | Hi. I think I can help here with the battery things for the FM recorder? |
17:35:38 | SeeSchloss | hmm I have absolutely no idea of what would happen if I did this |
17:36:07 | breaker | Set #define BATTERY_LEVEL_SHUTDOWN 0 (and the other values for empty) and recompile. It shouldn't shut down any more. |
17:36:44 | ricII | ok :) that even better.. |
17:37:12 | breaker | If reading the voltage for FM recorder works (tomorrow?), I'll let you know (in the ML). |
17:37:44 | breaker | Setting the values in powermgmt.h is just a workaround for today.. |
17:38:25 | breaker | Set SHUTDOWN, EMPTY, DANGEROUS to 0, FULL should remain unchanged. |
17:40:00 | SeeSchloss | hmm did I say that I didn't know anything about programming and how to do what you are saying ? |
17:40:49 | breaker | Do you have the source and a working compiler? |
17:40:53 | ricII | SeeSchloss edit powermgmt.h |
17:41:10 | breaker | firmware/powermgmt.h |
17:41:28 | SeeSchloss | ach I don't have the source and I don't have a working compiler |
17:41:44 | SeeSchloss | in fact I have no compiler at all |
17:42:07 | ricII | it easy to build under linux.. |
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17:42:15 | Phantom | hi |
17:42:23 | Phantom | somebody is here ? |
17:42:56 | breaker | Yes. :) |
17:43:00 | Nibbler | :D |
17:43:11 | SeeSchloss | well moreover I am under windows... |
17:43:35 | Phantom | is it possible to make a text view in full screen, withou left and right move ? |
17:44:07 | breaker | You could try the easy-to-install compiler package that someone made. |
17:44:13 | breaker | I think it's on the rockbox site. |
17:44:18 | breaker | But I haven't tried it. |
17:44:20 | ricII | Phantom: wrap you mean? |
17:44:31 | Phantom | yes |
17:44:49 | breaker | (I meant SeeSchloss.) |
17:45:18 | Phantom | SeeSchloss : this pack don't want to work on my computeur |
17:45:28 | SeeSchloss | Ok I'm looking for it |
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17:46:44 | ricII | Phantom: I still have to find something for prop. fonts.. |
17:46:56 | void_ | should the version display display the correct date of the version? |
17:47:03 | void_ | mine says jan 20 |
17:47:31 | ricII | depending on the system clock where it was build, yes |
17:47:52 | Phantom | so, is it possible to wrap the text ? |
17:48:00 | void_ | I installed the daily build |
17:48:08 | void_ | archos20030126.ajz |
17:48:25 | ricII | Phantom |
17:48:52 | ricII | ops, not in cvs, but my local tree supports it |
17:49:31 | breaker | Someone-with-FM-Rec: Can you please go to debug menu, View I/O prts and tell me the value of AN6? |
17:50:06 | Phantom | back in 2 secondes |
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17:50:14 | ricII | Phantom dcc not working.. |
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17:51:09 | Phantom | back |
17:52:12 | SeeSchloss | breaker : AN6: 20C |
17:52:37 | SeeSchloss | oh and I found the compiler, I'm downloading it |
17:53:13 | breaker | SeeSchloss: Thanks. The screen shows Batt: 0.0V 0%, am I right? |
17:53:52 | SeeSchloss | Well in fact it shows 3.38V 9% |
17:54:36 | SeeSchloss | but in the battery menu, i see 0.00V... |
17:55:32 | SeeSchloss | Phantom > so you downloaded the compiler and it doesn't work on your pc ? |
17:55:58 | Phantom | yes |
17:56:13 | Phantom | I had got the GNU SH compiler |
17:56:25 | Phantom | and it worked better than cygwin |
17:56:33 | Phantom | but I ve loose it |
17:56:42 | Phantom | and now I can't get it anymore |
17:58:57 | SeeSchloss | well I can not help |
17:59:00 | SeeSchloss | you |
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17:59:45 | Phantom | is somebody have the gnu sh compiler for windows ? |
17:59:50 | EGM92 | Hey anyone around? |
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18:01:03 | edx`afk | Phantom: I have, why? |
18:01:26 | EGM92 | ? Hey how do I know if something like a fature has been cahnged from firmware to firmware without actually installing it into the JB? |
18:01:54 | edx`afk | EGM92: what do you mean? |
18:02:52 | EGM92 | like say... hold on |
18:03:00 | EGM92 | I need to get onto the website |
18:03:23 | void_ | is sh-elf-gcc a special version of gcc? |
18:03:44 | edx`afk | yup |
18:03:54 | EGM92 | archos20030121.mod- archos20030126.mod how do Ifind out whats changed between theese 2 versions? like if there was a bug fix or new feature added |
18:05:23 | edx`afk | you can look at the change-logs |
18:05:24 | edx`afk | http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml |
18:05:45 | Phantom | edx'afk : I must register to have it on the web, and that don't work for the France, so I need to have it by another way..understand ;) ? |
18:06:13 | edx`afk | why doesnt that work? |
18:06:55 | EGM92 | EDX' where is that change log |
18:06:55 | EGM92 | ? |
18:07:54 | edx`afk | http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily/changes-20030121.html e.g. or http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily/changes-20030122.html (links right at the top) |
18:08:11 | EGM92 | ALRIGHT THANKS |
18:09:01 | Phantom | edx`afk : they always ask me to re-register, but I'm sure to do all what I must to do |
18:09:45 | edx`afk | Phantom: strange... i tried to register but they didnt send my account data, yet - some other guy gave me his |
18:10:22 | Phantom | and, can you give it to me ? |
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18:10:53 | edx`afk | I dont know.. i need to ask that guy but he's not in atm |
18:11:06 | Phantom | ok |
18:20:50 | Phantom | I try again... |
18:21:19 | SeeSchloss | hmm... I don't understand... most of the time rockbox shuts off when I unplugged the unit, but sometimes (like now) it doesn't |
18:22:33 | Phantom | yes that is right |
18:23:15 | Phantom | on my that is because of a bad quality of plug |
18:23:45 | SeeSchloss | bad quality of plug ? |
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18:24:28 | breaker | SeeSchloss: In Debug, Battery menu, the screen with "Power status:", it shows "Battery: 0,0 V"? |
18:24:47 | Phantom | yes, as if you unplug and plug then unplug very faast |
18:26:50 | SeeSchloss | well breaker immediatly after it was showin 0.00V, then it show ~2.00V and now 0.00V |
18:27:21 | Phantom | mine when he is unplug say 0.05 0.03 |
18:27:25 | SeeSchloss | there was 2.00V during about 1 minute |
18:28:01 | breaker | And in the other menu (View IO ports), if you press a key there it refreshed the values. |
18:28:09 | SeeSchloss | but Phantom it is not because I pluged and unpluged very fast, when I unpluged it it was plugged since 20 minutes |
18:28:18 | breaker | Dows it always show about 3,6 V? |
18:28:32 | breaker | Does. |
18:29:24 | SeeSchloss | hmm, it showed 0.00 V |
18:30:09 | breaker | Didn't you write that it showed 3.38V 9%? |
18:30:23 | SeeSchloss | then the disk spined up and it showed about 3V (I didn't see what was after the ,), then 2.26 because the backlight was on |
18:30:56 | breaker | That's all ok, I'm only interested if it shows always values between 2 and 4 V. |
18:30:57 | SeeSchloss | and now that the backlight is off it shows 0.00V |
18:31:05 | breaker | Oh! |
18:31:12 | breaker | Strange. |
18:31:22 | breaker | And the AN6 value? |
18:31:26 | SeeSchloss | and music is playing |
18:31:31 | SeeSchloss | AN6: 004 |
18:32:09 | breaker | Aha. The voltage is calculated out of AN6 (recorder). |
18:32:20 | breaker | But how to calculate it for FM recorder?? |
18:32:36 | breaker | AN6 seems not to work. |
18:33:39 | SeeSchloss | hmm is it normal that each time when I press a key AN6 changes ? (between 000 and 003) |
18:34:53 | breaker | Yes. Little inaccuracies of the analog-digital-converter. |
18:35:11 | PDAJunkiedotnet | hmm |
18:35:36 | PDAJunkiedotnet | I just ordered 4 2100mah nimh batts the other day for my archos...when I receive them should I put them in the archos and activate deep discharge? |
18:35:40 | SeeSchloss | ah ok |
18:37:30 | PDAJunkiedotnet | ..? |
18:37:54 | SeeSchloss | PDAJunkiedotnet > I can't help you |
18:38:07 | PDAJunkiedotnet | thanks anyways |
18:39:04 | breaker | PDAJunkiedotnet: If you want to.. I think it doesn't matter. You can force some charge cycles by setting deep discharge on, of course. |
18:39:38 | breaker | SeeSchloss: What does AN3 show? |
18:39:55 | PDAJunkiedotnet | ok thanks |
18:41:26 | SeeSchloss | breaker > 3FF |
18:42:25 | breaker | And AN0 is also 3FF, right? |
18:42:42 | SeeSchloss | right |
18:43:49 | SeeSchloss | but AN3 is always exactly 3FF while AN0 is 3F7-3FF |
18:46:51 | breaker | AN7 should be the external power voltage. Can you tell me the value with charger connected and with charger not connected, please? |
18:47:37 | SeeSchloss | charger not connected : 000 |
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18:48:52 | SeeSchloss | connected : 1DF just after connecting |
18:48:59 | SeeSchloss | now 130 |
18:50:34 | breaker | Mainly the same for the (notFM) recorder. So I have NO idea where to take the voltage from if AN6 doesn't work every time. |
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18:50:50 | breaker | Ah, hi linus! |
18:50:55 | LinusN | do we have any FM fuys here? |
18:50:59 | LinusN | guys |
18:51:17 | SeeSchloss | At least one |
18:51:19 | SeeSchloss | me |
18:51:21 | breaker | I tried to find out how getting voltage for FM works. |
18:51:29 | LinusN | ok, go to debug->I/O ports |
18:51:41 | breaker | AN6 doesn't work every time. |
18:51:53 | SeeSchloss | I'm already here |
18:51:54 | breaker | It seems, only if Backlight is off!? |
18:52:08 | breaker | Very strange thing.. |
18:52:44 | LinusN | weirdo |
18:52:44 | LinusN | maybe they have an external mux? |
18:52:45 | SeeSchloss | well rather when backlight is on |
18:53:35 | breaker | SeeSchloss: It shows 200 or something every time, if backlight is on? |
18:53:59 | LinusN | breaker: try to set the backlight frequency to 1HZ or something |
18:54:17 | breaker | LinusN: Hm? Backlight frequency? |
18:54:29 | LinusN | the backlight is controlled by the RTC |
18:54:34 | breaker | Ah, you mean in the registers of RTC. |
18:54:44 | SeeSchloss | breaker > yes |
18:54:48 | LinusN | and it is a square wave generator output |
18:55:01 | breaker | LinusN: Yes, I remember now. |
18:55:02 | LinusN | currently 32khz |
18:55:14 | breaker | No. Currently 0 Hz. |
18:55:18 | breaker | I think. |
18:55:36 | LinusN | breaker: have you changed it? |
18:55:45 | breaker | I don't think so. |
18:55:52 | LinusN | it shoud be 32khz when lit |
18:55:55 | LinusN | ohz when off |
18:55:58 | LinusN | 0hz |
18:56:05 | breaker | Wait, I'll look into the code. |
18:58:47 | breaker | LinusN: You're right. |
18:59:33 | LinusN | i'm always right :-) |
18:59:47 | breaker | I think I haven't changed it ifdef HAVE_ALARM_MOD, and I'm *sure* that I didn't change something that affects #ifndef HAVE_ALARM_MOD. |
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19:00:48 | LinusN | maybe the fmrec has an external analog mux? |
19:00:57 | LinusN | for the battery voltage(s) |
19:01:21 | LinusN | how does the liion charging circuit work? |
19:01:31 | LinusN | circuit==chip |
19:01:34 | breaker | I don't know. :) |
19:01:38 | LinusN | oh |
19:01:44 | breaker | I read about LiIon charging in the net. |
19:01:51 | breaker | Simply charging with 4.2 |
19:01:52 | LinusN | have you determined which chip it is? |
19:01:54 | breaker | 4.2 V. |
19:02:02 | breaker | No. |
19:02:14 | breaker | I don't have a FM recorder. |
19:02:23 | LinusN | from what i have heard, liion charging is trickier than nimh |
19:03:34 | breaker | I don't think so. Have a look at http://www.seattlerobotics.org/encoder/200210/LiIon2.pdf |
19:04:10 | breaker | They charge with 4.2V, the current is reduced automatically (because of the constant voltage). |
19:04:36 | breaker | That could mean we can always turn on the charger for the FM recorder and don't have to do anything. |
19:07:21 | LinusN | that must mean that they have an external charging chip |
19:07:43 | breaker | wait a minute, a telephone call.. |
19:07:44 | LinusN | otherwise we would overheat the batteries, wouldn't we? |
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19:10:10 | LinusN | as far as i know, it is critical that we don't exceed 4.2V, thus we need a current limiting device with pretty good precision |
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19:15:37 | Schee | well I downloaded the small compiler, did what you said, and it works, thanks :-) |
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19:18:39 | ricII | Li-Ion charging is tricky, could well be this handled outside the normal software.. |
19:19:33 | LinusN | i really think they use a charging controller for that |
19:19:59 | Schee | hmm well I was disconnected again Schee = SeeSchloss |
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19:21:10 | LinusN | kick SeeSchloss |
19:21:43 | ricII | ah, I was wondering what was about to happen :) |
19:22:00 | Kick | (#rockbox SeeSchloss :LinusN) by LinusN!~linus@labb.contactor.se |
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19:22:45 | Schee | ok thanks |
19:23:38 | ricII | Schee if you register the nick you can claim it back y'r self.. |
19:25:11 | breaker | LinusN: (I'm back again.) Yes, I think they have a charging controller inside the device. |
19:25:16 | Schee | I know, I thought it was registered |
19:25:36 | breaker | If not and we don't turn the charger off when it goes above 4,2 V, we destroy the battery, right. |
19:25:48 | LinusN | breaker: right |
19:26:39 | ricII | and maybe the archos withit |
19:26:52 | breaker | Someone with a FM Recorder has to check what happens when the Archos firmware runs. I think the voltage goes up to 4,2 v and then stays there. |
19:26:56 | LinusN | so the device shuts off when the backlight goes off? |
19:27:13 | breaker | No. AN6 only doesn't show a battery voltage. |
19:27:37 | LinusN | so maybe it just isn't a battery voltage at all? |
19:27:43 | breaker | We could make backlight_on(), get_voltage, backlight_off() |
19:27:55 | breaker | LinusN: Could be. |
19:28:15 | LinusN | try to set the freq to 1 hz and see how it behaves |
19:28:22 | breaker | But The battery voltage shown in debug/IO ports is calculated out of AN6. |
19:28:28 | breaker | ... |
19:28:40 | breaker | and it shows 3,6 v when backlught is on. |
19:28:46 | LinusN | breaker: that code is for the normal recorders |
19:29:03 | LinusN | we don't know if an6 measures the same thing on the fm recorder |
19:29:15 | breaker | Yes, right. |
19:29:27 | breaker | But 3,6 V could be the battery voltage. |
19:29:36 | LinusN | could be |
19:29:53 | breaker | And because I have no FM model here, what should we do? |
19:30:05 | LinusN | i have to put my son to bed now |
19:30:26 | LinusN | cu later |
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19:30:34 | breaker | OK, bye. |
19:35:42 | breaker | Schee: To "guess" if AN6 shows the batt voltage if backlight is on, it would be helpful to know which battery voltage and AN6 value the debug/IO ports screen shows when a.) battery is almost empty b.) battery is almost full. |
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19:36:40 | breaker | SeeSchloss: To "guess" if AN6 shows the batt voltage if backlight is on, it would be helpful to know which battery voltage and AN6 value the debug/IO ports screen shows when a.) battery is almost empty b.) battery is almost full. |
19:37:19 | breaker | If empty is about 2,7 and full about 4,2, I'd think AN6 *can* be used for getting the voltage. |
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19:38:46 | Darsh | hi... can anyone help me an error im getting? |
19:40:28 | breaker | What's wrong? |
19:40:38 | Darsh | well, i have the jukebox studio 20 |
19:40:41 | Darsh | and i had rockbox on it |
19:40:53 | breaker | And? |
19:40:56 | Darsh | then, i turned it on this morning and it said "HD Error" |
19:41:06 | Darsh | so, i went to the archos webstie, it said to reformat |
19:41:07 | Darsh | did that |
19:41:19 | Darsh | reinstalled the firmware and the rockbox.... but im still getting the error |
19:41:59 | breaker | Have you tried only to use the original firmware for a day or two after reformatting? |
19:42:15 | Darsh | i tried first using only the latest firmware |
19:42:27 | Darsh | but i cant even get to that |
19:42:30 | breaker | Archos firmware or Rockbox? |
19:42:39 | Darsh | Archos |
19:43:05 | breaker | And after reformatting, does the built-in firmware work? |
19:43:13 | Darsh | no |
19:43:15 | Darsh | wait |
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19:43:26 | Darsh | the built in firmware will be there after i format? |
19:43:27 | breaker | Are the batteries ok? |
19:43:32 | breaker | Yes. |
19:43:37 | Darsh | as far as i know... i tried with the AC plugge in |
19:43:43 | Darsh | let me try that |
19:43:45 | Darsh | hold on |
19:43:46 | breaker | Built-in is on a flash rom, cannot be overwritten. |
19:44:04 | Darsh | oh i didnt know that |
19:44:07 | Darsh | thanks, one sec |
19:44:37 | SeeSchloss | well breaker how could I know what you asked to me ? |
19:44:37 | SeeSchloss | battery voltage etc |
19:44:39 | Jet8810 | hmm |
19:44:52 | Jet8810 | is queuing still done by holding down the play button in the latest build? |
19:44:55 | Jet8810 | it is not working on my recorder... |
19:45:43 | breaker | SeeSchloss: What do you mean? |
19:46:27 | breaker | SeeSchloss: You could check the values after charging with the Archos firmware. Or what's the problem? |
19:46:50 | breaker | Jet8810: Press ON+play. |
19:46:57 | breaker | Jet8810: A new menu. |
19:47:01 | Jet8810 | aah |
19:47:08 | Darsh | breaker: it still gives me that error |
19:47:27 | Jet8810 | and is there a better way to edit them now too? and it saves playlists now too right? |
19:47:30 | ricII | Darsh: hd broken? |
19:47:40 | SeeSchloss | well... I could check the values after charging with archos, but I thought rockbox gave a bad voltage ? |
19:47:40 | breaker | Darsh: But you can connect with charger and USB and then format and use the drive? |
19:47:51 | Darsh | yes |
19:48:08 | Darsh | i canc onnec to just USB and it works fine |
19:48:12 | Darsh | i can send files back and forth |
19:48:14 | ricII | strange, formated as ? |
19:48:15 | Darsh | i can format |
19:48:18 | Darsh | fat32 |
19:48:34 | breaker | Darsh: And if charger disconnected, does that work then, too? |
19:48:52 | Darsh | if its connected to USB and NOT charger, it works fine |
19:49:19 | ricII | primary partition, fat32 sould work.. |
19:49:52 | breaker | SeeSchloss: That we don't know. We know that it doesn't show a usable value when backlight is off. But it could show a usable value if backlight is on. |
19:50:16 | SeeSchloss | ok ok |
19:52:30 | SeeSchloss | well archos says "Charged" |
19:53:08 | * | SeeSchloss is booting Rockbox... |
19:54:15 | breaker | SeeSchloss: You should charge some hours (even if it shows "charged" now) and then look at the voltage rockbox shows. I don't know what Archos means is "Charged". |
19:54:27 | SeeSchloss | hmm in I/O ports, battery is 3.09V when backlight is on |
19:56:28 | SeeSchloss | well breaker in a few minutes I will go to eat, then to bed, then to school and I won't be able to access internet before friday evening... |
19:56:45 | breaker | If you charge over night, the voltage has to be 4.2 V (that's the correct charging for LiIon, and I think Archos firmware does it correctly here). It would be interesting what value rockbox shows then. |
19:57:06 | breaker | OK, charge over night (Archos firmware), boot directly with rockbox and look into the debug screen. |
19:57:19 | breaker | Write me the voltage and AN& value. mail@uwe-freese.de |
19:57:26 | breaker | AN6 |
19:58:27 | breaker | Oh, you cannot write then until Friday. That's bad. |
19:59:49 | breaker | SeeSchloss: I'll aks for help in the Mailinglist. Bye then. |
19:59:53 | Darsh | if I'm outta battery power and plug in the Charger, i should be able to run it normally,r giht? |
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20:00:10 | ricII | Darsh no. |
20:00:30 | breaker | If the batteries are broken it won't work correctly. |
20:01:00 | breaker | The charger only charges the batteries. |
20:01:07 | Darsh | nono, i dont mean brokenb |
20:01:14 | Darsh | i mean, just outta power |
20:01:15 | ricII | spinup hd needs more power the adaptor (circits behind it) deliver |
20:01:21 | Darsh | oh |
20:01:22 | Darsh | hmm |
20:01:28 | Darsh | maye i should just charge it for a while |
20:01:47 | breaker | Yes. |
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20:03:11 | SeeSchloss | time to eat, @+ les filles |
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20:06:57 | ricII | breaker: just incase mine aren't working, still got some 8mb rams left? |
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20:24:38 | breaker | ricII: Yes. At least one. |
20:28:32 | ricII | I will practice some more on dummy pcb's and mod the archos somewhere in comming week.. |
20:30:39 | ricII | who could have thought I would put this broken hub to use :) |
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22:27:20 | PhantomJP | edx : do you have see the guy who give you his pass ? |
22:28:05 | edx`code | no, sorry i havent - i have registered myself and i'd give you my password but i didnt receive their mail yet :( |
22:28:47 | PhantomJP | same thing for me |
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22:54:02 | Aghnar | Hello everyone |
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22:55:28 | Aghnar | Anyone know if it would be possible to have a feature like the mp3cue plugin for winamp ? |
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23:04:29 | Aghnar | the mp3cue plugin can be found there : http://home.wanadoo.nl/screamer/Hardstyle/HTML/Software.htm |
23:05:09 | Aghnar | It is a great plugin when listening livesets or mixes without cutting them :) |
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23:13:00 | MT | mm |
23:13:05 | MT | i cba to install it |
23:13:20 | MT | but it allows you to jump to bookmarks around a single mp3 file? |
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23:21:15 | Aghnar | yes :) |
23:21:42 | Aghnar | I don't know if it would be possible to do on the archos |
23:22:14 | Aghnar | but i think it has not been requested yet... |
23:22:19 | langhaarrocker | bookmarks are being worked on |
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23:39:42 | BoD[] | hi |
23:40:38 | Aghnar | ok... tha's what you call bookmarks :) |
23:41:13 | Aghnar | i thought bookmarks was just for bookmarking your favourites tracks |
23:41:16 | MT | oooh :) |
23:41:20 | MT | it all works :) |
23:41:39 | MT | looks like i bought my fm recorder at just the right time ;) |
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23:42:10 | BoD[] | hep |
23:42:28 | BoD[] | is it possible to queue a full directory (and recursivly), yet ? |
23:42:49 | MT | not afaik |
23:42:57 | MT | but its in the pipeline (?) |
23:43:21 | BoD[] | :) |
23:43:24 | BoD[] | ok then |
23:53:43 | ricII | think I got the unshuffling covered.. |
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23:58:06 | langhaarrocker | completely ot: does anybody know how that song is called which has the bassline of 'night rider' combined with some indian singing and some kind of picked string instrument that sounds as if it was made of metal and severely broken? |