00:01:42 | | Quit secretagentseb ("Who knows what tomorrow will bring... maybe sunshine, maybe rain. But as for me I'll wait and see.") |
00:02:06 | | Join secretagentseb [0] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) |
00:02:56 | | Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.32.108) |
00:19:37 | | Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@B49eb.pppool.de) |
00:28:28 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
00:52:16 | | Join Schnueff_ [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) |
00:52:18 | | Quit Schnueff (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
01:00 |
01:16:57 | | Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) |
01:16:57 | | Quit mecraw (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
01:17:45 | | Quit mecraw_ (Client Quit) |
01:26:07 | | Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
02:00 |
02:06:05 | | Nick secretagentseb is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) |
02:11:16 | elinenbe | ricII: are you here? |
02:15:13 | | Quit ken0 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
02:18:46 | | Join barka_teh_chili_ [0] (~sdb@24.213.28.162.kzo.mi.chartermi.net) |
02:28:32 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
02:47:52 | | Quit Jet8810 ("Client Exiting") |
02:48:07 | | Join elinenbe_ [0] (~chatzilla@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) |
02:48:27 | | Quit elinenbe_ (Client Quit) |
03:00 |
03:02:33 | | Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-203-53.bct.bellsouth.net) |
03:07:12 | | Quit Jet8810 (Client Quit) |
03:33:56 | | Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-203-53.bct.bellsouth.net) |
04:00 |
04:28:33 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
04:29:51 | | Quit MT ("changing servers") |
04:29:52 | | Quit elinenbe (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
04:34:08 | | Join MT [0] (mt@fido.impulsed.net) |
04:35:55 | | Quit dw|gone (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
04:37:33 | | Join dw|gone [0] (dwihno@193.180.246.67) |
05:00 |
05:20:44 | | Join elinenbe__ [0] (~chatzilla@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) |
05:41:38 | elinenbe__ | check yourself before you wreck yourself |
05:43:37 | | Join edx`N|A [0] (edx@pD9EABCDC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
05:46:49 | | Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.33.137) |
05:55:34 | | Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-sleep (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) |
06:00 |
06:03:51 | | Quit seb-sleep (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
06:04:10 | | Join seb-sleep [0] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) |
06:06:42 | | Join Alex [0] (~jirc@pcp858790pcs.ptchar01.fl.comcast.net) |
06:06:50 | Alex | howdy.. i have a quick question |
06:07:22 | Alex | after the daily builds as of about a week ago the queuing function ceased to work on my 15gb recorder |
06:07:47 | Alex | is that a bug thats in all the new releases or was it taken out or am i even *gasp* doing something wrong? |
06:08:31 | | Quit Alex (Client Quit) |
06:10:23 | | Join glytchbinary [0] (~glytch@12.207.8.140) |
06:10:39 | glytchbinary | who thought it was a good idea to make the new playlist feature put the playlists in the parent directory instead of the current? |
06:16:36 | | Quit seb-sleep (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
06:16:46 | | Part glytchbinary |
06:28:34 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
06:55:33 | | Join kargatis [0] (~Vincent@ppp-isdn-208.ath.forthnet.gr) |
06:55:56 | | Join Bryant [0] (twogluon@it-vlan-2-77.flexabit.net) |
06:57:36 | | Nick kargatis is now known as kargatron (~Vincent@ppp-isdn-208.ath.forthnet.gr) |
07:00 |
07:08:26 | | Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp104.contactor.se) |
07:13:37 | | Quit edx`N|A () |
08:00 |
08:09:44 | ricII | morning |
08:12:39 | | Join calpefrosch [0] (~calpefros@30.ip-net01.empolis.com) |
08:12:51 | calpefrosch | morning |
08:28:36 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
08:34:59 | | Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@193.180.246.67) |
08:51:58 | Schnueff_ | moin |
08:52:01 | | Nick Schnueff_ is now known as Schnueff (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) |
09:00 |
09:06:18 | | Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
09:06:21 | | Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
09:10:25 | calpefrosch | morning zagor |
09:10:29 | Zagor | morn |
09:11:17 | calpefrosch | what do you think how to proceed ? Should I help you with some bugfixing or should I continue with the calendar ? |
09:13:50 | Zagor | bug fixing would be good, if you have some spare time, since the calendar will be in 2.1 or later anyway. |
09:15:51 | calpefrosch | I can try to help you, but I have no "debugging" archos. But everything should work on the simulator... |
09:18:06 | Zagor | all efforts are appreciated |
09:29:55 | | Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
09:44:24 | Schnueff | by the way, is a current version of fcpp available for download now? |
09:44:44 | Bagder | uuh, no |
09:44:49 | Schnueff | hm :| |
09:45:13 | Bagder | but the one that is available works to use |
09:45:18 | Bagder | it just shows a bad date in the footer |
09:45:26 | Schnueff | ah, and where was it? |
09:45:44 | Bagder | http://www.contactor.se/~dast/stuff/cpp-1.5.1.tar.gz |
09:45:53 | Schnueff | thnx |
09:46:55 | Schnueff | mv cpp fcpp then? |
09:47:29 | Bagder | yeah |
09:50:50 | Schnueff | worx |
09:50:54 | Bagder | goodie |
09:51:33 | * | Schnueff looks at his shiny manual. |
09:51:45 | Bagder | cool |
09:52:53 | calpefrosch | what is cpp ? |
09:53:09 | Bagder | cpp is generally the name of the C preprocessor on unix machines |
09:53:21 | calpefrosch | ah, thanks |
09:53:27 | Bagder | this particular version is one that I've hacked a lot in |
09:53:45 | calpefrosch | something special for rockbox ? |
09:53:59 | Bagder | it's slightly adjusted to preprocess web pages better |
09:54:18 | calpefrosch | hm |
09:55:21 | Bagder | and yes, Björn made a patch that he uses on the rockbox pages |
09:55:24 | Bagder | for that footer date |
09:55:58 | Schnueff | hm |
09:56:10 | Schnueff | i have the files locally here |
09:56:32 | Schnueff | i should set base somehow in head.t, so that / is identified with my local dir, right? |
09:56:40 | Schnueff | how do i do this in html? |
09:57:45 | Bagder | I don't think you can do that in html nicely |
09:57:58 | Schnueff | mustn't be nice :) |
09:58:40 | Bagder | no? then fire up apache and point the root dir on the rockbox www directory! ;-) |
09:59:16 | Schnueff | hehe |
09:59:34 | Schnueff | or smth like ln -s /my/dir/ec/tory / :) |
10:00 |
10:01:37 | Bagder | well, if you just use relative links, at least I usually survive the fact that the /-links go wrong when I try out things locally |
10:01:56 | Schnueff | ok |
10:02:08 | Schnueff | the first column gets very wide |
10:02:15 | Schnueff | because of the alt= from the paypal thing |
10:03:21 | Bagder | it does? not for me. anyway, try shortening it then I guess |
10:04:42 | Schnueff | yeah i do |
10:04:51 | Schnueff | i cut it out :) |
10:06:20 | | Quit calpefrosch ("Bye bye, cu l8r") |
10:07:08 | Zagor | alt is good. |
10:07:20 | Schnueff | yeah of course |
10:08:24 | Bagder | EF BB BF bah |
10:09:31 | Bagder | only 1500 bytes left to 500000 bytes of tarball |
10:09:53 | | Quit ken0 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
10:10:14 | Schnueff | oh, is that another release criterion? :) |
10:10:24 | | Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.33.137) |
10:10:31 | Bagder | yes! ;-P |
10:15:11 | | Quit kargatron ("Suckers!") |
10:15:55 | | Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.32.62) |
10:16:15 | | Quit ken0 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
10:16:58 | Bagder | off |
10:17:00 | | Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") |
10:20:59 | | Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.32.62) |
10:20:59 | | Quit ken0_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
10:26:41 | | Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.35.69) |
10:26:41 | | Quit ken0 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
10:28:37 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
11:00 |
11:34:18 | | Join calpefrosch [0] (~calpefros@gtso-d9bb81a2.pool.mediaWays.net) |
11:37:57 | * | calpefrosch is confused |
11:53:24 | | Join Bagder [0] (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) |
11:53:37 | Bagder | rehey |
11:55:13 | | Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) |
11:55:23 | quelsaruk | hi |
11:55:30 | Bagder | hi quelsaruk |
11:55:32 | | Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|out (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) |
11:55:41 | quel|out | must go to the airport... bbl |
11:55:43 | quel|out | :) |
12:00 |
12:14:05 | * | matsl is away: I'm busy |
12:14:06 | | Quit ken0_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
12:14:28 | | Join ken0__ [0] (marklar2@80.178.35.69) |
12:28:33 | | Join Rygar666 [0] (jirc@ACB9E180.ipt.aol.com) |
12:28:33 | | Quit elinenbe__ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
12:28:41 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
12:28:48 | Rygar666 | hi |
12:28:56 | Rygar666 | excuse me i need help |
12:29:19 | Rygar666 | cause my archos RJREC 20 won't boot up |
12:29:29 | Rygar666 | hd register error ;((( |
12:30:16 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Rygar666 |
12:30:16 | Rygar666 | can so help meplz ? |
12:30:21 | | Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.33.73) |
12:30:42 | | Quit ken0__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
12:30:53 | | Quit Rygar666 (Client Quit) |
12:36:29 | | Quit calpefrosch ("leaving") |
12:41:32 | | Join calpefrosch [0] (~calpefros@gtso-d9bb81a2.pool.mediaWays.net) |
12:43:55 | | Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.33.73) |
12:43:55 | | Quit ken0 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
13:00 |
13:04:45 | | Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.33.90) |
13:04:45 | | Quit ken0_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
13:32:17 | | Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) |
13:32:17 | | Quit quel|out (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
13:32:22 | quelsaruk | re |
13:33:43 | calpefrosch | hi quelsaruk |
13:35:21 | quelsaruk | hi calpefrosch |
13:35:35 | quelsaruk | do u have the S55 picture? |
13:35:58 | calpefrosch | pyes, just send me your email adress |
13:42:41 | quelsaruk | Zagor: still busy? |
13:44:30 | Zagor | yes :( |
13:45:22 | quelsaruk | :( |
13:48:38 | | Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
13:48:42 | bobTHC | hi all! |
13:49:03 | | Quit bobTHC (Remote closed the connection) |
13:49:39 | | Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
13:51:21 | | Join seb-sleep [0] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) |
13:52:03 | | Nick seb-sleep is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) |
13:52:25 | quelsaruk | hi bobTHC |
13:52:32 | bobTHC | hi! |
13:53:46 | calpefrosch | hi |
13:54:38 | calpefrosch | bobTHC: you requested the calendar thing ? |
13:54:45 | bobTHC | yep |
13:55:21 | calpefrosch | how do you imagine the exchange with the pc ? via XML or CSV ? |
13:56:09 | Bagder | the complixity needs to be o the PC side only |
13:56:13 | Bagder | be on |
13:56:21 | bobTHC | yep |
13:56:59 | calpefrosch | sure, so we just copy a csv-file to the archos |
13:57:00 | | Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-sleep (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) |
13:59:12 | Bagder | csv might not be the best way |
13:59:13 | | Nick seb-sleep is now known as seb-school (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) |
13:59:35 | Bagder | but I haven't really given it any thoughts yet |
14:00 |
14:01:40 | calpefrosch | it's not so important, but I would like to work on this part. |
14:04:53 | calpefrosch | Bagder: if you have a bit spare time, maybe you could give me a hint |
14:06:53 | Bagder | well, I think you should focus on having the rockbox code use an effective format for its own purpose |
14:06:59 | Bagder | so that the code can be kept small |
14:07:16 | Bagder | then you write conversion utilities for whatever format you like for the host computer |
14:08:38 | | Join kargatron [0] (~Vincent@ppp-isdn-629.ath.forthnet.gr) |
14:09:15 | Bagder | http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/ |
14:09:57 | calpefrosch | I think the csv-format is very effective, because you have less overhead and the parsing is easy |
14:11:00 | calpefrosch | hehe, do you want to port linux to the archos |
14:11:19 | Bagder | ipod has heaps of more memory than the archos |
14:11:30 | Bagder | and a lot faster cpu |
14:11:49 | bobTHC | and a big screen |
14:12:30 | Bagder | "The Powerportal chip contains two ARM7TDMI cores" |
14:12:44 | Bagder | two? |
14:12:49 | calpefrosch | but you still don't have a keyboard ;-) |
14:13:02 | | Join elinenbe__ [0] (~elinenbe_@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) |
14:13:07 | | Nick elinenbe__ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe_@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) |
14:13:11 | elinenbe | hi there! |
14:13:15 | elinenbe | look at this: http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/ |
14:13:19 | Schnueff | hehe |
14:13:22 | Schnueff | 14:09 < Bagder> http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/ |
14:13:31 | Bagder | I beat you with several minutes ;-) |
14:13:43 | quelsaruk | jajaja |
14:13:48 | quelsaruk | elinenbe: too late |
14:14:00 | Zagor | Bagder: it's one ARM core and a DSP core |
14:14:07 | elinenbe | Bagder: now I may have to go buy an ipod! |
14:14:20 | Bagder | hehe |
14:14:28 | Bagder | they have a long way to go still |
14:14:55 | elinenbe | I think uclinux should be ported to the Archos! |
14:15:03 | Bagder | go ahead |
14:15:19 | elinenbe | I'm already 80% done. |
14:15:22 | elinenbe | :) |
14:16:00 | Bagder | my guess is that it is quite a lot bigger than RockboxOS |
14:16:27 | elinenbe | I actullay have an ipod, and the firmwares are MUCH larger ~1-2 Megs |
14:17:29 | Bagder | maybe we should get ourselves a mascot |
14:17:55 | Schnueff | but not a drowsy penguin with an ipod :) |
14:18:02 | elinenbe | Bagder: I agree |
14:18:06 | Bagder | no, no penguin |
14:18:10 | elinenbe | something like an archos smashing an ipod |
14:19:35 | Schnueff | we could have some smiley face displayed on the recorder |
14:19:38 | Schnueff | :) |
14:20:08 | quelsaruk | hey! the idea of using the archos as a throwing weapon is mine!! |
14:20:09 | Schnueff | even animated, with an .mp3 explaining rockbox handling |
14:20:25 | quelsaruk | :) |
14:20:28 | bobTHC | :) |
14:20:36 | elinenbe | Bagder: wo could do T-Shirts too! |
14:20:40 | elinenbe | that would be a novel idea! |
14:20:44 | Bagder | yeah |
14:20:46 | Schnueff | heh |
14:22:19 | kargatron | well, archos isn't a greek word, according to my dictionary, so no mascot help there |
14:22:45 | quelsaruk | archos is a greek word? |
14:22:47 | quelsaruk | really? |
14:22:51 | quelsaruk | what does that mean? |
14:22:53 | Schnueff | hehe |
14:22:59 | Schnueff | read, quelsaruk |
14:23:02 | Bagder | he said its *not* a greek word |
14:23:03 | quelsaruk | uppss |
14:23:12 | quelsaruk | i'm a blind man too |
14:23:24 | quelsaruk | *please* don't kill me |
14:23:27 | quelsaruk | :) |
14:24:14 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
14:24:14 | * | Bagder halts his troops, "spare quelsaruk this time" |
14:26:19 | Bagder | http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/archives/2003/02/cnnsucks.jpg |
14:26:23 | Bagder | great pic |
14:26:27 | | Quit bobTHC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
14:26:31 | Bagder | cnn at its best ;-) |
14:27:03 | kargatron | 'archos' is certainly *spelled* like a greek word, which is why i tried to look it up, in case it was real. but no. |
14:27:54 | calpefrosch | what do think about an elephant ? because of the four rubber edges |
14:28:43 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
14:28:54 | quelsaruk | why not just Bagder? he's nearly a mascot :) |
14:29:05 | Zagor | "my iPod is behaving horribly with VBR-encoded files (firmware 1.2.1, mine cuts off the end of the track if you pause or fast forward/rewind)" |
14:29:32 | | Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
14:29:45 | Zagor | kargatron: archos is an anagram for Croah which is the name of the CEO |
14:30:05 | Zagor | Crohas even |
14:30:26 | bobTHC | why not the mascot on Sagittarius theme.... archos archer greece........ just an idea |
14:31:17 | Bagder | orchs! ;-) |
14:33:51 | quelsaruk | lunch time |
14:33:55 | quelsaruk | cu later! |
14:34:00 | | Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|lunch (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) |
14:36:14 | Zagor | do you think an iPod port of Rockbox would attract any attention? ;) |
14:36:44 | Bagder | it would take quite some work too |
14:37:03 | Bagder | but yes, it would ;-) |
14:37:20 | Zagor | a bit, yes, but not *that* much now that we can look at this guys' work |
14:37:53 | Bagder | true |
14:38:35 | PsycoXul | hmm according to this page on anarchy heh |
14:38:41 | PsycoXul | archos is greek for "ruler" |
14:39:39 | kargatron | welll, possibly |
14:39:53 | kargatron | my dictionary had 'archo' to mean govern/rule |
14:39:57 | kargatron | a verb |
14:40:20 | kargatron | didn't list archos, but i suppose it's reasonable that the masculine noun ending of that verb would be 'ruler' |
14:40:28 | kargatron | dunno enough greek |
14:40:39 | Bagder | aren't you greek? |
14:40:50 | kargatron | american greek (and only 1/8 greek anyway |
14:40:54 | Bagder | aha |
14:41:09 | kargatron | i live in greece atm (embassy stuff), but haven't learned the language really. |
14:42:11 | PsycoXul | ok so i found a couple unrelated pages on different subjects that have the word archos without it being in reference to the company or it's products, and they all say it means ruler |
14:42:26 | kargatron | there ya go then |
14:42:49 | PsycoXul | one on anarchy, one a supposed latin(?) word list, and the other about ancient greek philosophy or something |
14:43:10 | kargatron | unfortunately, a little crowned ruler doesn't make a very cool mascot |
14:43:16 | PsycoXul | hehe |
14:43:40 | kargatron | plus, burger king already took it :) |
14:44:46 | PsycoXul | well how about zeus or something heh |
14:45:45 | bobTHC | a cool zeus who send music scores with his bow.... heheh :) |
14:45:54 | PsycoXul | heh |
14:46:34 | PsycoXul | zeus didn't have a bow did he? he just threw lightning bolts didn't he? heh |
14:47:44 | bobTHC | a VERY cool zeus who send music scores with A bow.... |
14:47:53 | bobTHC | ;) |
14:47:59 | mbr | Und? |
14:48:10 | mbr | Uh, sorry :) |
14:48:59 | Bagder | "wrong window error" |
14:49:25 | mbr | Bagder: Yes |
14:51:43 | PsycoXul | or just zeus throwing musical bolts instead of lightning bolts |
14:51:47 | PsycoXul | :p |
14:52:59 | bobTHC | yep |
15:00 |
15:02:52 | elinenbe | Zagor & Bagder: they are doing everything in software it seems. The ipod has a hardware decoder too, but they are using software to decode it, that is why they are currently unable to decode mp3s realtime right now. |
15:03:19 | Zagor | elinenbe: yes, I noticed. I just signed up for a PortalPlayer data sheet :-) |
15:03:31 | Bagder | uff |
15:04:05 | elinenbe | I guess that shows the raw power of the ipod, but there that will be some quick battery drainage, etc. |
15:10:55 | Bagder | all they need now is to figure out how the rest of the hw works ;-) |
15:11:51 | bobTHC | not a little thing.... |
15:12:09 | Bagder | no, it might be tricky |
15:12:20 | Bagder | but they could get quite a few poeple interested now |
15:12:28 | Bagder | they've proven it works |
15:14:03 | elinenbe | the project has no goals though... like what exactly is the point of it? will the ipod now work better? |
15:14:55 | Bagder | well, rumours say it for example pauses at times |
15:17:37 | elinenbe | I mean... so does rockbox! that is not a goal! |
15:17:47 | | Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") |
15:18:04 | elinenbe | the ipod firmware is VERY polished |
15:18:25 | | Join datazone-work [0] (~datazone@2f.57.cf9e.cidr.airmail.net) |
15:19:30 | Zagor | the goal of rockbox wasn't to fix bugs |
15:22:34 | elinenbe | Zagor: the goal of rockbox was to take up many peoples spare time! |
15:22:35 | elinenbe | :) |
15:23:10 | | Join Snorlax [0] (my@h136n2fls34o883.telia.com) |
15:23:19 | Zagor | hehe, yeah |
15:43:58 | | Join huz [0] (~mreynes@netsoc.tcd.ie) |
15:44:03 | huz | hello guys |
15:44:12 | calpefrosch | hi |
15:44:35 | elinenbe | hi calpefrosch |
15:44:38 | elinenbe | hi huz |
15:44:42 | huz | I don't find a way to navigate into a playlist, can someone tell me the key bindings to do it ? |
15:44:58 | elinenbe | huz: there is currently no way to do this! duh! |
15:45:06 | huz | ok .. that's why :) |
15:46:30 | huz | thx elinenbe |
15:46:38 | huz | thx all for your great work ! |
15:46:40 | | Quit huz (Client Quit) |
15:47:16 | calpefrosch | elinenbe: that means we cannot "display" the content of a playlist ? |
15:48:46 | elinenbe | calpefrosch: yes |
15:49:22 | calpefrosch | are there any plans to implement this feature ? |
15:49:37 | elinenbe | calpefrosch: a lot of people want this, but it has yet to happen |
15:50:01 | elinenbe | calpefrosch: what we really need is a playlist editor −− view,edit, and make playlists |
15:50:03 | Zagor | calpefrosch: i wouldn't reject a patch, if that's what you're asking... :-) |
15:50:08 | calpefrosch | I will think about it |
15:50:21 | elinenbe | calpefrosch: go for it −− you'll be a hero! |
15:50:35 | calpefrosch | that's what I'm searching for ;-) |
15:53:17 | datazone-work | would be better if you made it use standard playlist that you can make from winamp or xmms |
15:53:40 | Bagder | ? |
15:53:43 | * | datazone-work looks at calpefrosch |
15:53:44 | calpefrosch | I think rockbox can handle those playlists... |
15:53:44 | Bagder | it does |
15:54:09 | calpefrosch | so I only need to write a viewer in the first step |
15:55:12 | Zagor | use the text reader |
15:56:41 | PsycoXul | i don't think the text reader's very appropriate for that |
15:57:04 | Zagor | i just mean it's a starting point |
15:57:06 | PsycoXul | indeed, i don't find the default text reader to be very appropriate for anything, at least on a player |
15:57:22 | PsycoXul | the one that's available as a patch is much better for most things, imo |
15:57:45 | PsycoXul | and the keys for the default one are really odd and seem backwards |
15:58:03 | PsycoXul | i'd like to have the ability to switch between the 2 of them depending on what i'm looking at, actualy |
15:59:59 | calpefrosch | for the playlist-browser I can imagine one that works like the dir-browser |
16:00 |
16:00:14 | calpefrosch | like mounting a playlist ;-) |
16:00:32 | PsycoXul | yeah |
16:01:20 | calpefrosch | if you agree i can try |
16:02:59 | calpefrosch | cu l8r |
16:03:00 | Zagor | i've been thinking the same thing |
16:03:31 | calpefrosch | Zagor: ok |
16:03:59 | calpefrosch | i go home now, cu l8r |
16:04:03 | | Quit calpefrosch ("leaving") |
16:04:05 | | Part datazone-work ("I like core dumps") |
16:09:55 | | Join edx`N|A [0] (edx@pD9EABF14.dip.t-dialin.net) |
16:12:16 | dwihno | Is it XP or 2k that refuses to create > 30 gig fat32 partitions? |
16:12:38 | | Quit edx`N|A (Client Quit) |
16:12:42 | | Join edx`N|A [0] (edx@pD9EABF14.dip.t-dialin.net) |
16:13:05 | bobTHC | use partition magic 8.0 |
16:13:27 | dwihno | I was just wondering where the limit is, if it's in 2k or XP |
16:14:07 | bobTHC | ok... idont know, i never use format function |
16:15:27 | Bagder | is the limit really in the OS? I think it is in the tools |
16:15:53 | dwihno | Yeah, me stupid. Is it 2k or XP that has the limitations in their own tools? |
16:16:00 | Bagder | hehe |
16:16:09 | Bagder | I wouldn't know that anyway |
16:19:21 | bobTHC | yes it the tools, FAT32 can safely handle drives up to 2 Terabytes |
16:19:45 | dwihno | Ya. |
16:19:52 | bobTHC | but it has this problem over 8.4 GB |
16:19:57 | dwihno | "In Windows XP, you can format a FAT32 volume up to 32 GB only" |
16:20:52 | Zagor | bobTHC: that's not fat32. that's some older pc bioses |
16:21:58 | bobTHC | CHS translation pb..... |
16:23:33 | Zagor | also, fat32 only handles 128gig. that's because it's actually only fat28 |
16:24:18 | | Join ErriCo_MaLaTesTa [0] (~awdyf@200.202.226.234) |
16:24:20 | bobTHC | FAT32X is the newer version and is on win2k AND xp |
16:24:57 | Zagor | still doesn't change the fact that it's 28-bit only |
16:26:09 | | Quit Bagder ("Client Exiting") |
16:28:08 | bobTHC | they make a standard on 32bit address and they use 28bit addresses..... |
16:28:26 | bobTHC | fucking cro$oft.... |
16:28:47 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
16:29:05 | Zagor | i guess they simply decided fat32 sounded cooler than fat28 :-) |
16:29:21 | | Quit eye69 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
16:29:29 | Zagor | no actually the fat entries are 32 bit wide, but four bits are used for flags |
16:29:53 | bobTHC | flags like? |
16:30:23 | Zagor | free, bad, end-of-chain etc |
16:30:50 | | Join eye69 [0] (~magnus@upcore.net) |
16:31:05 | bobTHC | 4 bits for a bunch of flag... really dirty...... |
16:31:20 | | Quit Snorlax () |
16:32:37 | | Nick quel|lunch is now known as quelsaruk (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) |
16:34:05 | quelsaruk | hi again |
16:34:11 | bobTHC | re |
16:36:07 | Zagor | bobTHC: uh, actually i'm wrong. the high 4 bits are simply reserved. the flags are set by using special values in the 28-bit value |
16:39:43 | | Quit eye69 (Connection reset by peer) |
16:39:45 | | Join eye69 [0] (magnus@upcore.net) |
16:40:49 | quelsaruk | Zagor: and if you just get one of my mp3 and test it whenever you have time? |
16:42:36 | bobTHC | reserved for futur use... the next windows(longhorn) use an other file system (winFS)based on database tech like in 80s.... |
16:44:21 | Zagor | ...and everybody will have to buy a faster pc again. hooray for progress. |
16:44:58 | bobTHC | hooooooooooooooooraaaaaa and of course thanx microsoft !!!!!! |
16:46:13 | quelsaruk | i love windows |
16:46:22 | quelsaruk | i don't understand why you all say this |
16:46:26 | quelsaruk | :) |
16:46:37 | bobTHC | dont feed the troll !!!! ;) |
16:46:47 | quelsaruk | jajajjajajajajajaja |
16:47:02 | quelsaruk | windows is gooooooooooood, like archos firmware |
16:47:23 | quelsaruk | i don't even understand why all of you guys are using rockbox |
16:47:57 | quelsaruk | :P |
16:49:08 | quelsaruk | edx`N|A: still got some problems with the win32 emulator.... |
16:51:13 | | Join calpefrosch [0] (~stefan@gtso-d9bb81a2.pool.mediaWays.net) |
16:57:14 | | Nick dwihno is now known as dw|gone (dwihno@193.180.246.67) |
17:00 |
17:05:25 | | Part Zagor |
17:06:03 | | Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
17:09:52 | | Nick calpefrosch is now known as calp|brb (~stefan@gtso-d9bb81a2.pool.mediaWays.net) |
17:21:12 | | Nick calp|brb is now known as calpefrosch (~stefan@gtso-d9bb81a2.pool.mediaWays.net) |
17:24:16 | | Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) |
17:24:42 | | Nick mecraw_ is now known as mecraw (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) |
17:26:17 | kargatron | was there a list of cons about the nomad zen 20 posted here at one point (zagor?) can't find mention in log |
17:26:27 | calpefrosch | das anybody knows why, when creating a playlist, my rights under linux are wrong ( 000 ) |
17:31:40 | quelsaruk | rebooting :) |
17:32:12 | | Quit quelsaruk ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar"") |
17:39:35 | | Part Zagor_ |
17:40:09 | | Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
17:49:58 | Zagor_ | gotta go |
17:49:58 | | Part Zagor_ |
17:59:15 | | Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) |
17:59:21 | quelsaruk | ouch |
17:59:45 | quelsaruk | i have some weird problem with linux :( |
18:00 |
18:00:10 | webmind | what ? |
18:01:06 | quelsaruk | i have internet access, but dns seems to be off. |
18:01:13 | quelsaruk | i've checked everything |
18:01:17 | quelsaruk | and everything is ok |
18:01:33 | webmind | cant resolve ? |
18:01:38 | quelsaruk | nop |
18:01:55 | webmind | hmm |
18:01:57 | | Part bobTHC |
18:02:02 | webmind | what's in /etc/resolv.conf ? |
18:02:17 | quelsaruk | now i'm in windoze again :) |
18:02:43 | quelsaruk | i will check tomorrow... i'm too lazy to check it now |
18:02:53 | webmind | ok |
18:03:38 | calpefrosch | ok, i have to go. |
18:03:39 | calpefrosch | cu |
18:03:41 | quelsaruk | cu |
18:04:08 | adi|work | man .. i am consistently getting dups from feature requests list.. dunno why |
18:04:16 | quelsaruk | ¿?? |
18:05:48 | kargatron | adi|work you mean emails? |
18:06:13 | kargatron | i think there's the 'general' sendout, and also 'send if you've touched this' sendout |
18:06:17 | kargatron | i see doubles all the time |
18:09:12 | | Quit ErriCo_MaLaTesTa ("fui") |
18:10:44 | adi|work | hmmm.. i dunno |
18:10:51 | adi|work | i get doubles even if i haven't touched the feature |
18:10:53 | adi|work | http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/ |
18:10:54 | adi|work | wow. |
18:13:40 | | Quit kargatron ("Suckers!") |
18:17:07 | | Quit MT ("changing servers") |
18:19:29 | | Part calpefrosch |
18:24:41 | | Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|out (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) |
18:24:45 | quel|out | see you later |
18:28:48 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
18:31:11 | | Nick ricII is now known as ricII|cooking (~ricv@debianalpha.xs4all.nl) |
18:35:12 | | Join renx [0] (jirc@ARennes-201-1-3-152.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
18:35:54 | renx | hi all! |
18:38:51 | | Join MT [0] (~MT@fido.impulsed.net) |
18:42:30 | elinenbe | quel|out: bye! |
18:45:23 | | Quit MT ("changing servers") |
18:47:43 | | Join MT [0] (~MT@fido.impulsed.net) |
18:54:06 | | Quit MT ("changing servers") |
18:55:40 | | Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
18:56:16 | elinenbe | Zagor: hi there. |
18:56:20 | elinenbe | Zagor: I have a ? |
18:56:20 | Zagor | hi |
18:56:26 | Zagor | fire away |
18:56:42 | elinenbe | Zagor: I am writing the code to save the fade on pause/stop option |
18:56:57 | elinenbe | and it will just be a bool |
18:56:59 | elinenbe | int 1/0 |
18:57:02 | Zagor | yes |
18:57:11 | elinenbe | so, all I need it one bit of space in the RTC |
18:57:24 | Zagor | yes |
18:57:26 | elinenbe | is anywhere perferred? |
18:57:37 | elinenbe | or, can I just put it anywhere it will fit? |
18:57:55 | Zagor | put it somewhere in the upper block |
18:58:17 | elinenbe | upper block? 22-44 byte range? |
18:58:41 | Zagor | no, >48-ff range |
19:00 |
19:00:16 | elinenbe | so, it will not be in the RTC |
19:00:19 | elinenbe | only on disk |
19:00:24 | Zagor | yes |
19:00:44 | Zagor | rtc is only necessary for frequently-changed items such as volume and resume position |
19:01:04 | | Nick quel|out is now known as quelsaruk (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) |
19:01:06 | quelsaruk | back to life |
19:02:10 | elinenbe | well, there is a good bunch of cruff in the RTC (peak meter settings for instance) |
19:02:32 | elinenbe | not necesarily bad, but not necessary for the RTC |
19:03:02 | Zagor | elinenbe: yes, that is unfortunate. i was too relaxed in letting people use the rtc. |
19:03:16 | elinenbe | at some point this will all have to be fixed. |
19:03:30 | Zagor | yes |
19:03:36 | elinenbe | ug! |
19:05:18 | Zagor | otoh it's not much of a problem until we really need more space in the rtc |
19:06:34 | adi|work | right.. but would it make sense to clean house for the 2.0 release? |
19:07:41 | | Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@Aa779.pppool.de) |
19:07:43 | elinenbe | Zagor: I am confused with the settings.c file... give me a free block that I can use. :) |
19:07:49 | elinenbe | langhaarrocker: I was just ripping on you! |
19:08:01 | langhaarrocker | cool! |
19:08:02 | quelsaruk | hi langhaarrocker |
19:08:03 | Zagor | elinenbe: use byte 0xAE |
19:08:12 | elinenbe | langhaarrocker: you steal all the RTC space with peakmeter settings. |
19:08:15 | elinenbe | Zagor: thanks. |
19:08:40 | langhaarrocker | I thought that someone already changed that to some disk sector. |
19:08:50 | elinenbe | langhaarrocker: you thought wrong! |
19:09:01 | elinenbe | langhaarrocker: where is the cut editor? the deadline is tomorrow! |
19:09:33 | quelsaruk | ummm |
19:09:53 | quelsaruk | someones know a ttf converter? |
19:09:58 | langhaarrocker | Shall I take care about the settings myself ? |
19:09:58 | langhaarrocker | I won't be able to deliver some reasonable split editor until tomorrow. Let's wait till 2.1. |
19:10:00 | quelsaruk | to use it for the rockbox |
19:10:39 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: ignore the settings. we'll fix that when we need the space for something. |
19:11:30 | langhaarrocker | I remember that we discussed that topic before. I was convinced that Linus moved the peak meter settings from rtc to disk |
19:11:55 | Zagor | yes, actually they are moved :-) |
19:12:01 | | Quit edx`N|A (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
19:12:05 | Zagor | elinenbe fooled me... |
19:12:11 | elinenbe | Zagor: what? |
19:12:15 | quelsaruk | ¿??? |
19:12:36 | Zagor | quelsaruk: there is a ttf2bdf util in the linux freetype package |
19:12:36 | elinenbe | at the top of settings.c "0x1c 0x30 <peak meter hold timeout (bit 0-4)>, |
19:12:37 | elinenbe | peak_meter_performance (bit 7)" |
19:12:51 | Zagor | hehe. ok, you were both right :) |
19:13:08 | elinenbe | peak meter is EVERYWHERE! |
19:13:36 | quelsaruk | i suppose there's none for windoze |
19:13:46 | langhaarrocker | nothing of the peak meter should be stored in the rtc. I just didn't grasp the concept when programming that. |
19:14:06 | | Join edx`N|A [0] (edx@pD9EABF14.dip.t-dialin.net) |
19:14:23 | Zagor | quelsaruk: I suppose there a lots, for only $30 each ;) |
19:15:30 | elinenbe | langhaarrocker: I am trying to work with it right now. |
19:16:06 | quelsaruk | zagor |
19:16:14 | quelsaruk | i found one for free |
19:16:15 | quelsaruk | :P |
19:16:20 | langhaarrocker | elinenbe: What are you trying to store in rtc? |
19:16:38 | langhaarrocker | quelsaruk: goats with peak-meter? |
19:16:46 | Zagor | guys, don't change the settings more than necessary |
19:17:10 | quelsaruk | a goat that has peak-meter? |
19:17:13 | quelsaruk | ;) |
19:17:22 | quelsaruk | i have none in stock today |
19:17:32 | quelsaruk | try tomorrow :) |
19:17:49 | elinenbe | langhaarrocker: (fade on pause/unpause/stop) I am just going to store it on disk though... |
19:18:04 | langhaarrocker | right so. |
19:18:41 | langhaarrocker | I just hope nobody uses Zagors famous Spank-O-Mat on me... |
19:20:20 | langhaarrocker | how boring. only a language commit today. |
19:21:50 | | Join TheRealBeezle [0] (~trillian@p50801F35.dip.t-dialin.net) |
19:22:45 | TheRealBeezle | greetings |
19:22:45 | TheRealBeezle | can someone help me with my Jukebox Rockbox firmware? It doesnt start anymore.... |
19:23:05 | langhaarrocker | so it once worked? |
19:23:30 | TheRealBeezle | ya it did |
19:23:31 | TheRealBeezle | everything worked fine |
19:23:54 | langhaarrocker | thats easy: hit the rewind button until you get to the time when it worked. :) |
19:24:01 | TheRealBeezle | i tried a new firmware and now it just doesnt boot anymore with any firmware except for the archos one |
19:24:21 | TheRealBeezle | :-) |
19:24:22 | TheRealBeezle | sorry that key is missing on my player :) |
19:24:24 | quelsaruk | TheRealBeezle: it does start but you get a blank screen? |
19:24:26 | langhaarrocker | Do you have copies of the older firmwares left? |
19:24:34 | langhaarrocker | (on the archos) |
19:24:59 | TheRealBeezle | no |
19:24:59 | TheRealBeezle | i even tried formating and creating a new partition |
19:24:59 | TheRealBeezle | doesnt work |
19:25:36 | TheRealBeezle | any clue :)?? |
19:25:51 | langhaarrocker | Does it only use the rom version or can you use an achos firmware update, too? |
19:26:04 | quelsaruk | ummm |
19:26:13 | TheRealBeezle | no it uses the newer firmware which is strange |
19:26:27 | langhaarrocker | Have you tried to fiddle with the 'active' flag of your fat32 partition? |
19:26:45 | quelsaruk | TheRealBeezle: try in the faq the last entry... |
19:26:57 | TheRealBeezle | no |
19:26:57 | TheRealBeezle | i didnt change anything except for trying to put a new firmware on it |
19:27:01 | TheRealBeezle | k ill try thx |
19:27:16 | quelsaruk | the one with the down-left-downdown... etc... |
19:27:24 | quelsaruk | i don't think it works.. but.... |
19:27:33 | quelsaruk | just in case it's a contrast error :) |
19:27:36 | TheRealBeezle | ggrrr thx quelsaruk |
19:27:59 | TheRealBeezle | no its not a contrast error :) |
19:28:04 | quelsaruk | or you can hire me |
19:28:11 | quelsaruk | i'm an expert techn-priest.. |
19:28:24 | quelsaruk | i do a lot of exorcism in these jukeboxs |
19:28:27 | quelsaruk | :) |
19:28:40 | langhaarrocker | before hiring quelsarum make sure you have some blood-proof blankets around |
19:28:41 | quelsaruk | i have some green goats i can sacrifice right now ;) |
19:28:43 | TheRealBeezle | sorry im atheist :) |
19:29:46 | TheRealBeezle | so no one has a clue? |
19:29:46 | TheRealBeezle | great... .) |
19:30:39 | langhaarrocker | The only things I can suspect relate with problems due to reformatting / repatitioning your drive. |
19:30:51 | TheRealBeezle | well i did that afterwards |
19:32:26 | langhaarrocker | Im not sure but I thin if you have multiple files like ajbrec.ajz and ajbrec.ajz_old on your drive the prommed firmware can mix them up since it searches only for files that begin with ajbrec.ajz. |
19:32:27 | Zagor | TheRealBeezle: what model is this? |
19:33:27 | TheRealBeezle | its the recorder |
19:33:39 | TheRealBeezle | with 6gb, so the old one |
19:34:10 | quelsaruk | like mine |
19:34:15 | Zagor | what operating system are you using on your pc? |
19:34:21 | TheRealBeezle | there shouldnt be any other file than the ajbrec.ajz |
19:34:21 | TheRealBeezle | its the only file with the folder i put on after reformat |
19:34:36 | TheRealBeezle | what does the op. system have to do with it? |
19:34:53 | Zagor | there are various fat32 issues with different versions of windows |
19:35:15 | quelsaruk | Zagor: how does the convbdf program work? |
19:35:18 | TheRealBeezle | well i have xp |
19:35:19 | TheRealBeezle | i did a primary partition with fat32 |
19:35:47 | Zagor | quelsaruk: convbdf [options] [-o output-file] [single-input-file] |
19:36:05 | quelsaruk | thx.. i supposed something like that but.. i love asking you :) |
19:36:29 | quelsaruk | someday you will get stressed and kick me away but... :) |
19:36:31 | TheRealBeezle | lol sorry i know xp suxs its the only one i have hear currently |
19:37:12 | TheRealBeezle | here, ups |
19:37:15 | Zagor | TheRealBeezle: i've heard reports about this type of problems with xp before |
19:37:53 | Zagor | TheRealBeezle: try directory snoop. http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/faq.html#68 |
19:38:32 | TheRealBeezle | aahhh that looks really good |
19:38:32 | TheRealBeezle | thx |
19:38:41 | adi|work | Zagor.. |
19:38:50 | TheRealBeezle | i got tired of reading the faq. i somehow missed it |
19:38:50 | adi|work | would it make sense to clean up the RTC before 2.0? |
19:39:05 | adi|work | TheRealBeezle: thats my fault.. im working on trimming the FAQ up a bit |
19:39:13 | adi|work | she's an unweildly beast right now |
19:40:03 | langhaarrocker | of which colour is her blood? :) |
19:40:25 | quelsaruk | not green langhaarrocker... |
19:40:26 | quelsaruk | ;) |
19:40:47 | TheRealBeezle | np |
19:40:48 | TheRealBeezle | thx and cu :) |
19:40:50 | | Part TheRealBeezle |
19:40:50 | Zagor | adi|work: well the only point would be that 2.1 doesn't need a new rtc format. |
19:41:56 | adi|work | right, but it would clean up the cruft no? |
19:42:04 | adi|work | and most ppl are going to be going to 2.0 |
19:42:28 | adi|work | and id figure a settings reset from 1.4 => 2.0 would be less noticable then say 2.x -> 2.y |
19:42:43 | langhaarrocker | But there are already changes to the rtc since 1.4 -> maybe we then don't need rtc changes from 2.0 -> 2.1 |
19:42:58 | langhaarrocker | I'm too slow at typing. |
19:46:53 | Zagor | yeah, a pre-2.0 cleanup is probably a good thing |
19:47:13 | | Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) |
19:48:34 | langhaarrocker | Maybe someone should do that then. |
19:48:34 | * | langhaarrocker looks at elinenbe</BODY></HTML> |
19:54:57 | adi|work | hmm.. well.. i can't say i know what to pull out.. |
19:55:51 | Zagor | i'll look at it. we don't need to move much, just a few obvious things |
19:56:05 | adi|work | btw.. in cvs is there any more need for the test directories? |
19:57:17 | Zagor | I use the fat test dir sometimes |
19:57:22 | adi|work | okay.. |
19:57:26 | adi|work | was just curious |
19:58:04 | langhaarrocker | I want a bathtub compatible (== waterproof) laptop. |
20:00 |
20:00:24 | adi|work | funny.. i want a girlfriend compatible with my computer :) |
20:00:27 | quelsaruk | i want a rubber goat |
20:00:35 | quelsaruk | adi|work: i found it once... |
20:00:58 | quelsaruk | and i prefer the normal model |
20:01:03 | quelsaruk | it's easier to handle |
20:01:04 | quelsaruk | :) |
20:01:10 | adi|work | zagor... can you look at settings.c:354 |
20:01:13 | | Nick ricII|cooking is now known as ricII (~ricv@debianalpha.xs4all.nl) |
20:01:17 | adi|work | what are those braces for? |
20:02:53 | Zagor | to create a new block, so a new variable can be created. runtime was just a test originally. |
20:03:19 | adi|work | ahh. right.. this is c |
20:03:22 | adi|work | not c++ |
20:03:23 | * | adi|work nods |
20:03:25 | Zagor | yes :-) |
20:03:25 | adi|work | makes sense |
20:03:37 | adi|work | im looking at it.. and like *huh*? |
20:03:39 | adi|work | :) |
20:05:16 | | Quit mecraw (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
20:08:31 | | Quit Gissehel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
20:11:00 | | Join Gissehel [0] (gissehel@AFontenayssB-105-1-1-51.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
20:11:48 | | Join Guest [0] (~jirc@64.45.173.120) |
20:12:14 | Guest | How do you get XP to create a .rockbox folder? |
20:12:32 | Guest | Somehow my .rockbox folder was deleted! |
20:12:32 | langhaarrocker | with a dos box |
20:12:50 | langhaarrocker | it's described in the faq |
20:13:33 | Guest | D'oh |
20:13:51 | Guest | You are correct sir, thanks! |
20:14:58 | langhaarrocker | I'm gonna enter the bath tub now (without rubber goats) |
20:14:58 | langhaarrocker | http://www.x-phobie.de/Fernsehwanne.jpg |
20:15:26 | quelsaruk | what the hell is that? |
20:15:40 | langhaarrocker | that's what I'm gonna do. |
20:15:41 | quelsaruk | pornographic stuff here!!! |
20:15:43 | quelsaruk | ;) |
20:15:52 | langhaarrocker | cu |
20:16:09 | adi|work | thats sad. |
20:16:19 | quelsaruk | ¿? |
20:16:33 | adi|work | sitting in a bathtub long enough to enjoy a tv show... |
20:16:35 | adi|work | *shrugs* |
20:16:40 | * | adi|work is a shower man |
20:16:48 | | Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
20:16:57 | quelsaruk | ummm.. i'm a no water man |
20:17:08 | quelsaruk | 23 years without a shower nor a bath!! |
20:17:19 | adi|work | your tongue must be dry |
20:17:35 | quelsaruk | pse... |
20:17:39 | quelsaruk | a little bit |
20:17:43 | | Quit Guest ("Leaving") |
20:28:51 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
20:29:46 | | Join numer9 [0] (jirc@wit387200.student.utwente.nl) |
20:33:02 | numer9 | where can i see (in changelog style) what the latest changes in de cvs are ? |
20:33:56 | Zagor | numer9: the daily builds page |
20:44:58 | quelsaruk | Zagor: if i create a .fnt font and it's bad, when you try to load it, rockbox loads the default one? |
20:46:27 | Zagor | quelsaruk: I can't promise that :-) |
20:48:47 | quelsaruk | :) |
20:48:52 | quelsaruk | i created one... |
20:49:05 | quelsaruk | but was *the same* as the default one.... |
20:49:13 | quelsaruk | so there are 2 options |
20:49:22 | quelsaruk | 1) it's the same font (it's not) |
20:49:36 | quelsaruk | 2) it's bad.. and rockbox charges the default font |
21:00 |
21:02:51 | quelsaruk | Zagor: the song i gave you is from a swedish or finnish band :P |
21:11:51 | * | Zagor just received the PP5002 data sheet |
21:12:13 | Zagor | "Based on an ARM7TDMI symmetric dual processor architecture" |
21:13:21 | quelsaruk | ¿?? |
21:13:29 | Zagor | the ipod cpu |
21:13:33 | quelsaruk | ahhhhh |
21:13:50 | quelsaruk | you are all amazed with the ipod today |
21:14:20 | Zagor | well it's getting more interesting now that someone has figured out how it works |
21:15:18 | quelsaruk | ohhhh |
21:15:24 | quelsaruk | bye bye mister archos? |
21:15:26 | elinenbe | Zagor: I am almost finished with the updated fade patch, with a config option. Do you think this could make the CVS for 2.0? |
21:15:32 | elinenbe | be done in about 10 min. |
21:15:41 | Zagor | elinenbe: no, it will have to wait for 2.1 |
21:15:52 | elinenbe | Zagor: blah! |
21:16:56 | elinenbe | Zagor: then I will be done with it in 15 weeks! :) |
21:17:14 | Zagor | :-) |
21:17:56 | quelsaruk | elinenbe: 20 days for my trip to sweden.. will the gameboy emulator be for that day ? |
21:18:16 | quelsaruk | it's a long way and i don't want to get bored |
21:18:17 | elinenbe | quelsaruk: buy a gameboy! |
21:18:48 | quelsaruk | i wanted.. but i'm so blind i bought an archos ;) |
21:22:23 | | Join kargatron [0] (~Vincent@ppp-isdn-629.ath.forthnet.gr) |
21:33:14 | elinenbe | Zagor: question for you! how can I patch against cvs easily? |
21:33:32 | Zagor | elinenbe: cvs diff -u |
21:35:05 | elinenbe | Zagor: cool daddy! |
21:35:50 | | Join elinenbe___ [0] (~chatzilla@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) |
21:35:58 | quelsaruk | time to go home |
21:36:09 | quelsaruk | see you tomorrow |
21:36:16 | Zagor | bye |
21:36:17 | quelsaruk | if i have some time |
21:36:22 | | Part quelsaruk (""Eve's Avatar - Avatar's Eve"") |
21:37:55 | ricII | damm now I known why linux is having such bad press, tried zdisk -h (novell zenworks) and it wiped my part-table.. |
21:37:59 | webmind | ej ric |
21:38:07 | ricII | gi webmind |
21:39:26 | | Quit elinenbe___ (Client Quit) |
21:41:21 | | Quit renx ("Leaving") |
21:41:45 | | Quit edx`N|A (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
21:47:10 | | Quit numer9 ("Leaving") |
21:53:14 | | Nick seb-school is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) |
22:00 |
22:07:24 | | Join MT [0] (mt@fido.impulsed.net) |
22:18:27 | | Join Guest [0] (jirc@p508F1538.dip.t-dialin.net) |
22:18:50 | | Join woffi [0] (woffi@p508F1538.dip.t-dialin.net) |
22:19:00 | | Quit Guest (Client Quit) |
22:19:01 | | Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@Bdeba.pppool.de) |
22:19:51 | woffi | Hi! I'm a newbie to IRC, ARchos and Rockbox - anybody still bother to help me out? |
22:20:09 | langhaarrocker | probably |
22:21:47 | woffi | I just got the Jukebox Recorder new, installed Rockbox after reading about the features, but can't semm to figure out how to queue a song while listening to another |
22:22:17 | langhaarrocker | in the browser hold 'on' and press 'play' |
22:22:39 | woffi | trying this - BRB |
22:22:59 | langhaarrocker | (select the song to be queued first) |
22:24:06 | langhaarrocker | oh and queuing is not available in V1.4. You've got to use the bleeding edge build for that. |
22:25:40 | langhaarrocker | I don't believe it. It was only a few months ago that I last checked out and modified sources. And now guess what? I get conflicts when updating! I'm shocked! |
22:26:09 | woffi | Ok, I try to find that "bleeding edge" thing. |
22:26:47 | langhaarrocker | http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml |
22:26:57 | kargatron | langhaarrocker, you shouldn't be shocked - of course the code degraded in your absence, untended |
22:27:31 | langhaarrocker | The opposite was my intension when letting the code rest! |
22:27:32 | woffi | thx - tha warning sounds frightening, but I'll trust you and use it |
22:28:21 | langhaarrocker | We haven't had any desatorous reports yet. The worst was that something didn't work - but no drives corrupted or anything similar. |
22:28:43 | | Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
22:28:45 | langhaarrocker | (unless you try to delete directories) |
22:28:53 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
22:28:54 | Bagder | delete dirs should work now |
22:29:02 | ken0 | hrrm |
22:29:03 | Bagder | doesn't it? |
22:29:08 | ken0 | I take it 2.0 is due soon? (tomorrow??) |
22:29:11 | Bagder | perhaps what was rename |
22:29:29 | Bagder | not tomorrow, but soon enough |
22:29:36 | langhaarrocker | woffi: good news: you can delete all your dirs safely now. :) |
22:29:55 | | Join Greg11 [0] (~jirc@66.0.144.41) |
22:30:26 | * | ken0 will throw a party for everyone when official 2.0 comes out |
22:30:36 | * | Bagder smiles |
22:30:47 | * | langhaarrocker polishes a HUGE mug |
22:32:21 | langhaarrocker | Is that what it's supposed to be? |
22:32:21 | langhaarrocker | cvs [update aborted]: recv() from server cvs.rockbox.sourceforge.net: EOF |
22:32:38 | Bagder | it does like that every now and then |
22:32:41 | Bagder | just retry |
22:32:46 | langhaarrocker | works |
22:33:44 | ken0 | I just now updated to latest daily build |
22:33:55 | ken0 | didn't update since linus finished debugging recording |
22:34:10 | ken0 | in a nutshell.. what's new? |
22:34:18 | ken0 | file/dir managment complete? |
22:34:31 | woffi | i'm back - installed it, works like a charm so far. Ok, won't bother you again until I have a minimum clue hat I'm doing. |
22:34:35 | ken0 | queue / playlist tinkering? |
22:34:41 | Bagder | queue is there |
22:34:41 | langhaarrocker | I want a busy-polling-cvs-client |
22:34:51 | Bagder | langhaarrocker: write a script ;-) |
22:35:16 | langhaarrocker | Bagder: nah. I'm a windows user :) |
22:35:26 | Bagder | hahaha |
22:36:25 | | Quit woffi () |
22:37:21 | langhaarrocker | apropos scripts and so on: I'll soon need some help with extending the tools makefile. Who is the guru to ask? |
22:37:37 | Bagder | what do you wanna do there? |
22:37:54 | ken0 | http://www22.brinkster.com/keno1981/ArthurArchos.jpg |
22:37:56 | ken0 | my hip cat |
22:38:31 | langhaarrocker | I have this dream about key schemes: |
22:38:31 | langhaarrocker | precompiled factory presets as a generated *.c file |
22:39:02 | langhaarrocker | For that I want to make a tool that accepts a key scheme config file and generates the *.c file |
22:39:07 | Bagder | ok |
22:39:17 | Bagder | well, the Makefile in tools is very straight forward |
22:39:54 | | Join vedder [0] (~chasingam@pool-141-154-72-79.bos.east.verizon.net) |
22:40:15 | langhaarrocker | But for that target I have multiple *.c sources - some of which have special conditional compiling. |
22:40:26 | vedder | hi |
22:40:33 | langhaarrocker | hi |
22:40:44 | vedder | anyone know a cheap place and reliable place to buy archos stuff online |
22:40:56 | Bagder | langhaarrocker: ok, so when you want it added, you tell me exactly how you compile them and I'll fix the makefile for you |
22:41:19 | langhaarrocker | you're my man :) |
22:41:21 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: why do you want to compile the key scheme file? |
22:41:34 | Zagor | why not just have a default, like we have for wps |
22:41:47 | langhaarrocker | To generate that default |
22:41:56 | Zagor | ? |
22:41:57 | * | Bagder bounces, Zagor is alive! |
22:42:19 | Zagor | yeah, i'm fighting a strange locking problem with my web site |
22:42:44 | ken0 | okay gotta sleep |
22:42:50 | ken0 | daniel and bjorn - love you guys |
22:42:52 | vedder | No one can recommend a good place to get a jukebox? Best buy kinda sucks. |
22:43:19 | Bagder | vedder: I just pick a local one I like |
22:43:19 | Zagor | vedder: I'm buying from a local swedish webshop. i'm guessing that doesn't help you much :) |
22:43:27 | langhaarrocker | See it like this. Somewhere we have to maintain the default key scheme. I want to avoid maintaining key schemes in two different formats: c source and key scheme config files. So why not maintain the default as a config file and generate c source from it automatically. So the default config file can serve as an example, too. |
22:43:32 | vedder | Nope, I'm in the u.s. |
22:43:34 | vedder | ok thanks |
22:43:45 | vedder | I'll have to keep checking the small electronics stores |
22:44:02 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: yeah, I just don't see why key schemes ever need to be converted to C source. wps files aren't. |
22:44:41 | langhaarrocker | Somewhere the default must be stored. I'd like to avoid rockbox to rely on the existens on some file in .rockbox. |
22:44:47 | vedder | Ok well I guess I'll be back when i have a machine to try rockbox on. It looks really cool, keep up the good work , developers. |
22:44:51 | | Quit vedder ("Proops") |
22:45:10 | Greg11 | i'm looking into getting the fm recorder ... is rockbox compatible? |
22:45:41 | Bagder | Greg11: http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/fmstatus.html |
22:46:03 | langhaarrocker | Bagder: you're faster than me. |
22:46:12 | Bagder | we knew *that* ;-P |
22:46:14 | Greg11 | thanks |
22:46:36 | Greg11 | i hear the battery life sucks on it though ... like 2 or 3 hours |
22:46:44 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: ok, so basically your "scheme2c" converter just makes it a 'char keyscheme[] = "asdkjaldkjasldk";' ? |
22:47:11 | * | Bagder has no FM |
22:47:12 | Zagor | Greg11: more like 6-7 from what I've heard. still worse than the old rec20 though. |
22:47:25 | Greg11 | it looks cooler though |
22:47:46 | Zagor | many things look cooler :-) |
22:48:01 | Bagder | its lighter as well |
22:48:01 | | Join edx`N|A [0] (edx@pD9EA985E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
22:48:30 | Greg11 | is that something that rockbox or an archos firmware update might be able to help out on later on? |
22:48:46 | Greg11 | battery life that is |
22:49:40 | Zagor | Greg11: i don't know. we don't know very much about the fm power circuit yet. |
22:49:48 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: more a struct key_scheme[] = .... but pricipially yes |
22:53:12 | Greg11 | hmm, ok ... gonna go buy one tonight. Probably the the non-FM one since I've heard lots of crappy things about it (low battery life and poor radio reception) |
22:54:07 | | Join jeff1 [0] (~jirc@firebox1.msp.fishnet.com) |
22:54:21 | jeff1 | hello |
22:54:25 | Bagder | hey |
22:54:35 | jeff1 | are there usually a lot of ppl in here? |
22:55:05 | jeff1 | ok, this java irc client is really annoying with the "Unregistered copy" msg. |
22:55:12 | Bagder | we're always 20-30 ppl around the clock |
22:55:15 | langhaarrocker | the lot is not the point - there are _important_ people around |
22:55:45 | Bagder | those that are more equal than the others ;-) |
22:55:59 | jeff1 | well that is a good way to put it |
22:56:33 | langhaarrocker | usually there are 20-30 important people around the clock. |
22:56:56 | jeff1 | some never sleep, eh? |
22:57:02 | | Quit Greg11 ("Leaving") |
22:57:10 | langhaarrocker | he's called logbot but he rarly posts anything |
22:57:27 | Bagder | jeff1: we have people present from many sides of the globe |
22:57:40 | jeff1 | he is just here to keep OPS? |
22:57:50 | Bagder | he logs |
22:57:54 | jeff1 | oic |
22:57:55 | Bagder | "he" |
22:58:00 | jeff1 | hehe |
22:58:05 | langhaarrocker | http://rockbox.haxx.se/irc/ |
22:58:17 | jeff1 | so the developers usually hang here? |
22:58:34 | Bagder | yes |
22:58:39 | Bagder | on and off |
22:58:41 | langhaarrocker | sometimes they are hung |
22:58:58 | jeff1 | nice |
22:59:00 | Bagder | and we have to stand langhaarrocker's jokes |
22:59:08 | jeff1 | ic that |
22:59:25 | Bagder | its hard, but we're determined ;-) |
22:59:59 | langhaarrocker | Some of my jokes I call 'source' |
23:00 |
23:00:02 | jeff1 | so how much of rockbox talk is around here? |
23:00:25 | Bagder | jeff1: we tend to discuss a lot of what happens here first |
23:00:33 | jeff1 | ahhh |
23:01:15 | jeff1 | anyone think of any creative ways to avoid "accidently" pressing pause or stop, while in pocket? |
23:01:36 | Bagder | lock your keys |
23:01:55 | langhaarrocker | in wps press f1 + down |
23:02:03 | jeff1 | from the FAQ it says I can not |
23:02:04 | jeff1 | ahhh |
23:02:07 | langhaarrocker | or was it on + down? |
23:02:13 | jeff1 | <−−- newbie |
23:02:25 | jeff1 | i just got my archos last week |
23:02:40 | _seb_ | at least you didn't have to stick with the default firmware for long |
23:02:50 | _seb_ | it took me ~2 months to realize rockbox existed after getting mine |
23:03:06 | jeff1 | yeah, I usually do a bit of research before buying |
23:03:09 | Bagder | I started hacking on Rockbox before I bought mine ;-) |
23:03:34 | jeff1 | and read about this archos... CompUSA had it for $130.00 |
23:04:02 | jeff1 | I read about Rockbox on CNET or some review site and said to myself, what is "Rockbox" |
23:04:04 | langhaarrocker | I posted the guts of my recorder before rockbox was born. |
23:04:36 | jeff1 | well, i was thinking about taking stuff apart, then I started to think... let me play with it for awhile. |
23:04:55 | jeff1 | so atleast if I break something I will feel like I got my money's worth |
23:05:33 | langhaarrocker | did you get the fm recorder? |
23:06:37 | jeff1 | nope, just the studio 10 |
23:06:42 | jeff1 | it was cheap. |
23:06:47 | jeff1 | like I said $130. |
23:07:11 | jeff1 | fm radio would be nice, along with recorder. |
23:07:23 | jeff1 | I like the radio show in the morning |
23:07:29 | langhaarrocker | what a pity. I think some developers still crave for pictures of the guts of the fm recorder. |
23:08:23 | jeff1 | why do they crave that? |
23:08:47 | Bagder | or even better, it should be "beeped" and figured out in detail |
23:09:03 | Bagder | jeff1: because our support for the FM is still lacking |
23:09:40 | jeff1 | ahhhh |
23:10:37 | Zagor | Bagder: btw, I received a PortalPlayer brief. It really has dual ARM7 cores. Pure SMP fun in a tiny package. |
23:11:05 | Bagder | gosh |
23:11:21 | Bagder | you know at what freq it runs/they run? |
23:11:41 | Zagor | up to 90 MHz |
23:11:54 | Zagor | lowest is 32 kHz :-) |
23:12:07 | Zagor | I imagine it doesn't use very much power at 32 kHz... |
23:12:50 | langhaarrocker | I prefer 44.1 kHz... |
23:14:16 | | Quit jeff1 ("Leaving") |
23:22:03 | langhaarrocker | getting sleepy |
23:29:33 | | Join Snorlax [0] (my@h136n2fls34o883.telia.com) |
23:29:48 | Snorlax | hallo? anybody here? |
23:29:52 | Bagder | yes |
23:30:04 | | Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
23:30:29 | Snorlax | just gotta tell you that an alternate firmware for the ipod is in development, check this out: http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/ |
23:30:39 | Bagder | hehe |
23:30:42 | Bagder | we know |
23:30:47 | Snorlax | atleast that's how I understood it, correct me if I'm wrong! |
23:30:48 | kargatron | put it in the topic for a few days |
23:31:11 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
23:31:15 | Zagor | it's not an alternate firmware, it's just a linux port |
23:31:24 | Zagor | still cool, though |
23:31:27 | Snorlax | so, do u think it's gonna be able to do what rockbox did to the archos playerS? |
23:31:39 | Snorlax | so what does that do, mean? |
23:32:03 | Topic | "feature freeze -- 2.0 soon -- and ipodlinux seems cool" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
23:32:28 | Bagder | Snorlax: sure, they might be able to "do a rockbox" on the ipod eventually |
23:33:13 | Snorlax | well why do you say that's it's "just" a linux port? |
23:33:22 | Snorlax | what's the difference? |
23:34:29 | Zagor | Snorlax: it takes a lot of work to go from an operating system to a ready-to-use player |
23:35:25 | Bagder | night |
23:35:26 | Snorlax | yeah I know, and I understand all the hard work, but with the hard work + linux port = an eventual possible firmware?! |
23:35:26 | | Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") |
23:35:36 | Snorlax | cuz u say "just" a linux port |
23:36:03 | MT | i consider ipod to be technologically inferior to archos anyways ;) |
23:36:52 | Zagor | Snorlax: much is possible with hard work |
23:37:46 | Snorlax | well... isn't the linux port like the port you built in the beginning of rockbox |
23:37:47 | Snorlax | ? |
23:38:26 | Snorlax | I mean is your's easier to develop a OS from? |
23:38:37 | Zagor | Snorlax: linux is an OS. rockbox is an application. |
23:39:21 | Snorlax | ok, but with linux you can run applications, is that what this guy is trying to do? |
23:39:58 | Zagor | he doesn't say what his goal is |
23:41:19 | Snorlax | but it COULD be possible, right? |
23:42:59 | Zagor | yes, absolutely |
23:43:45 | Snorlax | can't you in someway, through the linux port figure out how the ipod works, like you did with rockbox, right? |
23:44:05 | Zagor | yes |
23:44:39 | Zagor | the main problem is like with the multimedia: the chip companies don't want to tell you how the chips work |
23:44:59 | Zagor | and if you sign an NDA, you are not allowed to publish the code |
23:45:12 | Snorlax | yeah I know, that's a prob! |
23:45:22 | Snorlax | but he got this far.. |
23:45:45 | Zagor | that's because he is only using the pure ARM7 core and none of the fancy stuff |
23:46:46 | Snorlax | ok, can't he figure that out with the port somehow? |
23:47:11 | Zagor | he wrote the port. he can't use his own port to find out more. |
23:48:25 | Snorlax | ok, do u know when he first got the port to work? |
23:48:42 | Zagor | pretty recently, judging from the web page |
23:49:30 | Snorlax | so what does the patch which you can download do? |
23:50:07 | Zagor | it modifies uclinux so it will run on the ipod |
23:50:30 | Snorlax | excatly what is uclinux? |
23:50:52 | Zagor | linux for mmu-less microcontrollers. www.uclinux.org |
23:57:02 | Snorlax | God! I'm hyped up about this! |