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#rockbox log for 2003-02-15

00:00:05smeagolit's not firmwaring the thing
00:00:09tracktheripperlol
00:00:10smeagolso why
00:00:15tracktheripper:)
00:00:23smeagolthat's the kewl thing bout it
00:00:38smeagolit's just a 'skin'...
00:00:43tracktheripper:)
00:00:45smeagoljust a pretty kewl one
00:00:51smeagoli really like it
00:00:53Hadakaumm, archos asked for permission to ship rockbox on player cd's - so I don't think they are unhappy at all
00:00:56tracktheripperme 2
00:01:24Hadakathey can't ship it for recorders, because rockbox doesn't support the copyright bits for recording and that stuff
00:01:25tracktheripperreally Hadaka?
00:01:31tracktheripperohhh
00:01:32smeagolI have a recorder
00:01:36Hadakaor something like that - I don't remember the whole storey
00:01:38smeagollove the games <g>
00:01:47smeagoljust wondering 60gb
00:01:50tracktheripperbut why did Archos incorporate the hack for defeating protection
00:01:53smeagolwould it work?
00:02:14Hadakatracktheripper: um? I'm not sure what you are talking about
00:02:23Bagdersmeagol: yes, 60GB works fine
00:02:28smeagolkewl
00:02:40smeagoldo i need special mark hdu?
00:02:41Bagdertracktheripper: very good question, it sure is strange to me
00:02:41tracktheripperthere is a hack for defeating the copy protection in the Archos firmware
00:02:48smeagolor just the avg hdu
00:03:04Bagdersmeagol: any brand, just make sure it is 2.5" 9.5mm
00:03:05smeagolso =! fijutsi
00:03:05tracktheripperBadger and Hadaka I can tell you the hack in the Archos firmware
00:03:07Hadakahmh, haven't heard of that
00:03:13smeagolbadger: ok
00:03:29Hadakaanyway, haven't really been active here in ages, so I don't know what's up
00:03:40tracktheripperBadger and Hadaka, Load up the Archos firmware, go to Change Artist, key in HFSCMSOFF
00:03:50smeagolwhat would happen if I ever 'update' the firmware of the archos
00:03:54tracktheripperand you will see a screen saying copyprotection is off
00:04:01smeagolwould that void the rockbox working?
00:04:10tracktheripperprob not
00:04:14smeagolkewl
00:04:15tracktheripperits just a software thing
00:04:26smeagolbut then again why would I upgrade
00:04:37smeagolthe thing works ok even better now <g>
00:04:57Bagderwell, no upgrade ever from Archos reflashed the unit
00:05:00smeagoljust wondering if the battery will work longer :-)
00:06:01tracktheripperim tempted to upgrade the drive in mine, is it easy to do?
00:06:22smeagolwell seeing the photo's on the rockbox site...
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00:06:33smeagolit's easy to break things
00:06:36smeagol:-(
00:06:37tracktheripperlol
00:06:47smeagolI would love to have 60 gb
00:07:07smeagolI have the usb 2.0 thingy
00:07:17smeagolgreat for file transfer
00:07:19tracktheripperbut 60Gb would be only good if u encode at 320Kbs and you have a massive CD collection
00:07:26smeagolso a bigger drive wouldn't suck
00:07:53smeagolI move a lot divx files <g>
00:08:14Linus|awayhey guys, i have some really good news, and some bad news
00:08:19tracktheripper:O
00:08:20smeagolcarying that notebook around kinda sucks
00:08:22tracktheripperwhats up Linus?
00:08:32Bagderhey Linus!
00:08:38Linus|awaylisten very carefully
00:08:41smeagolhola Linus
00:08:45*Bagder sharpens up
00:08:50Linus|awayI HAVE AN FM RECORDER!!!
00:08:53tracktheripperHi Linus
00:08:54Bagderdang
00:08:57Bagdercongrats!
00:08:58smeagolheh
00:09:00tracktheripperWHAT?
00:09:01tracktheripperwell done!
00:09:02smeagolcongrats
00:09:07*smeagol goes sleeping
00:09:11smeagollaters ppl
00:09:19Bagderdone any beeping yet? ;-]
00:10:18Linus|awayguess what? This fm recorder was a birthday gift from Matthew P Oreilly to me and the Rockbox project
00:10:45tracktheripperSo Linus u gonna dissamble it and enhance Rockbox for it?
00:10:53Linus|awayi received it this morning
00:10:58tracktheripper:)
00:11:10Linus|awayi have taken it apart and started examining it
00:11:20Linus|awayhere comes tha bad news
00:11:20tracktheripperohh right
00:11:26tracktheripper(gulp)
00:11:33*Bagder is scared
00:11:41tracktherippertracktheripper is scared
00:11:54Linus|awaythe Fm radio part is enclosed in a sealed copper box
00:12:02Bagdergah
00:12:03tracktheripperWHAT!
00:12:18edxBagder: ok, ill recommit the file and see if we got less warnings
00:12:18tracktheripperwell just remove the copper box :-)
00:12:31Linus|awayprobably to protect it from interference from the rest of the electronics
00:12:47Linus|awaydon't you think i have tried to open it?
00:12:59Linus|awayit is not meant to be opened, that's for sure :-)
00:13:10tracktheripperwell just take an angle grinder to it :-)
00:13:14tracktheripperlol
00:13:19zobono this calls for some careful chisel work
00:13:56Linus|awaythe archos hardware designers have learned a few lessons from the earlier models
00:14:07Linus|awaythis baby is only one PCB
00:14:15Linus|away6 layers
00:14:24tracktheripperso Rockbox will NEVER support FM?
00:14:31Linus|awaytracktheripper: we will, don't worry
00:14:56tracktheripperbecause im seriously considering getting an FMrec
00:15:06Linus|awayi just have to hook up an oscilloscope and look at the I/O from the box
00:15:13tracktheripperohhhhhh
00:15:50tracktheripperIM gonna make a cup of tea who would like one?
00:16:01Linus|awayand we'll probably have to disassemble some of the archos firmware
00:16:07tracktheripperlol
00:16:27DBUGEnqueued KICK tracktheripper
00:16:27tracktheripper4is off to make some tea
00:16:46Linus|awayi think Matthew is a true rokbox hero
00:17:19CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
00:17:19*Bagder agrees
00:17:57Bagdernice going Linus!
00:17:58Linus|awayas far as i can see, archos support strategy is not to repair the devices, but replacing them
00:18:33Linus|awaythey are not easy to open
00:19:33adi|workwhat i miss?
00:19:37Linus|awayi have opened the copper box in one corner
00:19:48Linus|awayit seems like it is filled with yellow goo
00:19:56Bagderhehe
00:20:03Bagdernasty stuff
00:20:40adi|workooooo... yellow goo is tasty
00:20:47Linus|awayi'll try some more, and then I'll visit some old friends at Ericsson to hook up some logic analysers and oscilloscopes to it
00:21:24Linus|awayit would have been so much easier if archos could have shared some information... :-(
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00:22:00BagderArchos isn't very friendly
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00:24:24Bagderedx: worked
00:24:31Bagderback to one warning now
00:24:32edxnice
00:24:34edxok
00:24:41edxthat one warning has been causing trouble in windows as well
00:24:44edxbut it was an error
00:24:46edxwith that rename stuff
00:24:48*adi|work is away: headed home
00:24:55edxhmm
00:25:01edxlook at file.h inside win32 dir
00:25:15tracktheripper1is back
00:26:13tracktheripperthey seem ok on their tech support line
00:26:36Bagderedx: weird
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00:29:40tracktheripperhi
00:29:50tracktheripperlo to you Galik :-)
00:30:15Bagderedx: ah, I think I know why
00:30:31edxok :D tell me
00:30:37Bagderlemme check first
00:31:25tracktheripperIn what way is the Multimedia firmware different to the others?
00:32:03Bagderit really rewrites the flash
00:32:09Bagderit uses a different CPU
00:32:15Bagderit is entirely different
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00:32:34Mine78anyone there ?
00:32:35tracktheripperohhhhhh
00:32:49Mine78can I have a txt example of the new options in the .cfg file ?
00:32:54tracktheripperso it just doesnt reside on the HD like the normal Recorders
00:33:01Bagdertracktheripper: correct
00:33:10tracktheripperohhhhhh
00:33:14tracktheripperdidn't know
00:33:14tracktherippersorry
00:33:25Mine78er.........
00:33:34***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
00:33:41Mine78what are the new options for the .cfg file ?
00:33:45BagderMine78: I guess reading the source is the best option atm
00:33:59Mine78ok thanx I will do
00:34:12Mine78does an Italian translation of the cvs already exist ?
00:34:35BagderMine78: yes, but I don't know how complete it is
00:34:54SeeSchlosshmm I have a patch to display correctly "rename" on a folder... does it worth to be put on sourceforge ?
00:35:15Bagderedx: seems I was wrong, I thought it was related to the order of the include path
00:35:27edxyea
00:35:32edxi could have told you
00:35:36edxtried that already ;)
00:35:39Mine78can I download it and complete it ?
00:35:50BagderMine78: sure, its in the cvs
00:36:09Bagderhttp://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/rockbox/apps/lang/
00:38:54edxwell, ill try to get a bit of sleep now
00:38:57edxgood night
00:39:00Bagdernight edx
00:39:07 Quit edx ()
00:39:20Mine78Badger have I to use the .lang file or have I to clik on the 1.5 version ?
00:39:47Linus|awayi have opened the box
00:40:09Linus|awayit was not filled with goo, it was just a protective cover
00:40:24BagderMine78: you should get the .lang file yes
00:40:34Linus|awaythere is at least one PCB inside
00:40:41*Linus|away goes to examine it
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00:48:16Mine78Badger I added only 1 missing line to the lang file
00:48:24Mine78have I to send it to you ?
00:50:00Mine78Badger ?
00:50:28Bagderrelax
00:50:36MT\o/
00:50:39MTthank god
00:50:51MTi can cancel the soldering iron order :)
00:50:55Mine78sorry...
00:51:12MTlinus has got his hands on an fm recorder, dont have to use my inexpert skills to hack apart mine :)
00:51:53Bagderall praise to Matthew Oreilley
00:52:34Bagderand Linus of course
00:55:40tracktheripperdon't forget Bjorn
00:55:45tracktheripperpraise him as well :-)
00:55:54Bagdernah
00:55:59Bagderhe's a softie ;-)
00:56:08tracktheripperwhy not? he founded the Rockbox project! :-)
00:56:10*Bagder grins
00:56:31Bagderhe did?
00:56:43Bagderhe's my kid brother
00:57:02BagderI get the right to make fun of him when he's absent
00:58:10tracktheripperawwwwwwwwwwww
00:58:18tracktheripper((feels sorry for Bjorn))
00:58:51Mine78Badg how can I make a .lng file from the .lang ?
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00:59:10MTtheres a tool in the cvs tree
00:59:12MTsec
00:59:25MT(runs on *nix iirc)
00:59:59tracktheripperBadger could the FM Recorder be "tweaked" to pick up digital recorder?
01:00
01:00:04Bagderits a perl script
01:00:07tracktherippersorry digital radio?
01:00:10Bagderit runs on windows too if perl is installed
01:00:28MTo~tracktheripper: highly doubt it
01:00:37tracktheripperjust a thoughjt
01:00:38Bagdertracktheripper: once we figure out how the FM stuff works, we might be able to tell.
01:00:49tracktheripperbefore someone sends it in as a feature request
01:00:52tracktheripperlol
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01:01:04Linus|awayit is most probably a 1-chip solution
01:01:10tracktheripperyea
01:01:18MTdab is generally poorer quality than traditional analogue fm
01:01:25tracktheripperWHAT?
01:01:27MT(at least in the uk)
01:01:41tracktheripperi thought dap promises crystal-clear interference sound!
01:01:44Bagderand probably a completely different beast to decode
01:01:47MTits to do with how much information you transmit
01:01:52tracktheripperyea
01:01:59MTif you want to cram in 10 times the number of channels
01:02:04tracktheripperIm sure those nice blokes at Archos will make a digital DAM recorder :-)
01:02:12MTdigital can let you do it, but you degrade quality
01:02:20SnorlaxSO when will rockbox for ipod be released? :P
01:02:23tracktheripperohh
01:02:40MThmm, if they could send schematics when they do so tracktheripper, that would be peachey ;)
01:03:07tracktheripperlol
01:03:19tracktheripperWhat do u think of the redesigned chassis for the FM recorder
01:03:24tracktherippercompared to the normal Recorder?
01:04:01BagderLinus|away: will you make some close-ups with your camera on the FM picked to pieces?
01:04:11Linus|awayi will
01:04:19Bagdernice
01:04:29SnorlaxI don't understand archos, they make great product, really inovative and such, but why do they insist on making them so unpretty and bulky, if they would suceed on the design aswell as functionality, they'd be king in the portable mp3 player kingdom!
01:04:38Linus|awayi wonder if i'll ever be able to out it together again...
01:04:55tracktheripperok Snorlax do u prefer the chassis of the FMRec or the normal Rec?
01:05:10MTfm recorder is not ugly
01:05:12Linus|awayi like fmrec better
01:05:12SnorlaxI'd have to say.... IPOD!
01:05:12MTits pretty
01:05:26tracktheripperBut the IPOD scratches in seconds from brand new!
01:05:28Bagderipod has silly keys ;-)
01:05:28MTthe ipod is not a viable solution for three reasons
01:05:30Snorlaxit isn't pretty
01:05:35Snorlaxit's BEAUTIFUL!
01:05:49tracktheripperI like the design of my JBRec10!
01:05:56MTit has non standard hard drive, and low capacity, impossible to replace
01:05:57tracktheripperthe blue corners are there for shock protection!
01:06:09MTthe firmware is not good
01:06:14tracktheripperyou will be crying if you drop your precious Ipod
01:06:18Snorlaxand uglyness..
01:06:22MTits JOLLY expensive
01:06:37tracktheripperI like thouse blue corners
01:06:39Mine78Badger is there a win32 tool to convert lang files to lng ?
01:06:50BagderMine78: install perl, run script
01:06:58SnorlaxYEAH I will cry if I drop my ipod, cuz I LOVE it, but not as much if I dropped my archos...
01:07:20MTsnorlax: you arent particularly good at trolling
01:07:25tracktheripperto me the Ipod looks boring
01:07:35MTive already dropped my archos
01:07:36Snorlaxwhat is trolling?
01:07:41MTdidnt do any harm
01:08:19Snorlaxsorry, English is my second language
01:08:20MThttp://hyper.vcsun.org/HyperNews/djordan/get/law11sp21updates/30.html?nogifs&admin&nogifs
01:08:29tracktheripperWhat is with that daft wheel on the Ipod?
01:09:34Snorlaxhaha, I'm a troller!
01:09:35MTits designed to break after 4-5 months, requireing you to buy a new £400 ipod
01:09:41tracktheripperlol
01:09:48tracktheripperMT what Archos machine do u have?
01:09:53MTfm
01:10:09MTim 'new' to all this, only had it 1 month ;)
01:10:15Snorlaxwell.... then you send it to apple and you get a new one for free in the mailbox 3 dyas after you sent it..
01:10:27Snorlaxdays
01:10:34tracktheripperoh right. Whats the FM like MT?
01:10:36MTunless it has damage
01:10:40tracktheripperFM recepion?
01:10:41Mine78Badger (I know I am boring..) in the source file of the new config file the variable names are those :
01:10:41Mine78channel_config
01:10:42Mine78avc
01:10:44Mine78ecc
01:10:44Mine78?
01:10:47MTand then you dont get it replaced
01:10:56MTits okay
01:11:00MTfm reception is crap
01:11:02tracktheripper:)
01:11:13MTbut i didnt really buy it for that
01:11:15Snorlaxthen play inocent and apple will send it porhaps with a little hold-up
01:11:15BagderMine78: and?
01:11:25Linus|awayi found the fm receotion pretty good...
01:11:37tracktheripperBut the metal back on the Ipod gets scratched so easily!
01:11:48tracktheripperthe chassis on the Archos is far more hardwearing
01:11:49MTwell its dependant on the headphone cable as an aerial
01:12:05Mine78Badger: I mean, if I want to wrot my own CFG file I must use for ex channel_config: VALUE ecc
01:12:07Mine78?
01:12:12Linus|awayas most portable FM radio receivers
01:12:13SnorlaxI know, kind of annoying but then you buy a BEAUTIFUL ISEE case for it!
01:13:04tracktheripperSnorlax You can't replace the battery in the Ipod, the Ipod cannot record, The Ipod cannot read .txt files, the Ipod is SDMI complaint............
01:13:12tracktheripperTherefore the Archos is better :)
01:14:26tracktheripperAnd the Ipod scratches easily, You cannot replace the drive wiv a larger one, The Ipod doesnt support USB.......
01:15:02MTLinus: yes, perhaps I wasnt clear - for a portable radio with no dedicated aerial the reception is great
01:15:11Snorlaxwell first of all the ipod isn't SDMI complaint cuz if it was I wouldn't consider it.. you can read txt file's on the Ipod, it can't record, but personally I don't care, my old Archos AJB 6k couldn't either.. The battery is replaceable if you got the guts!
01:15:24MTits not however, something I would choose to listen to over a mp3 :)
01:15:54tracktheripperBut the Ipod still looks boring!
01:16:00MTSnorlax: its possible to replace the cpu if you have the guts, but i wouldnt say its replaceable
01:16:13tracktheripperand Apple are too stupid to omit a USB port?
01:16:16tracktheripperEveryone has USB!
01:16:24MTwhat the ipod doesnt have is rockbox
01:16:24Bagderhey, they're apple
01:16:30MTand never will most likely
01:16:32BagderApple was made to do lock-ins
01:16:54Bagderfireware is an Apple baby
01:16:58MThence (((archos++)++)++)++
01:16:59Bagderfirewire even
01:17:08SnorlaxI don't need a larger drive then 10 GB(honestly), for me, it's just overkill, I don't need USB, cuz I got FW(No shit!), the scratch bit is fixed with a beautiful transparent case like ISEE
01:17:16tracktheripperyea but USB2 is faster than Firewire
01:17:33Bagderwell, no units support them at full speed anyway, afaik
01:17:37Snorlaxnot in real life
01:17:43tracktheripperFirewire transfer = 400Mbs, USB2 transfer = 480Mbs
01:17:47Snorlaxmaybe, but it's kind of the same
01:17:47tracktheripperso ner :P
01:17:47tracktheripperlol
01:17:49MThmm, you dont need larger than 10 GB ?
01:18:06MT400 Mbps == 50 MB/s
01:18:29MTyou would be impressed if a full sized desktop top of the range IDE disk got 35 MB/s
01:18:36Snorlaxno, I got 5 GB of music, 5 GB spare to expand my collection with
01:18:47MTextremely expensive scsi disks can hit 50
01:18:50tracktheripperi love an argument :-)
01:18:51tracktheripperlol
01:18:54tracktherippersnorlax
01:18:54tracktheripper:)
01:19:01BagderMT: the ATA133 ones do
01:19:13Bagderiirc
01:19:15MThmm, id like to see that benchmark
01:19:50MTSATA150 drives dont even hit 50 MB/s
01:20:22Snorlaxand now woth the possible open-source(ipodlinux.sourceforge.net) I could get a Ipod-rockbox(YAY!!)
01:20:27Snorlaxwith
01:20:27MTso, regardless of real figures, the notebook drive in an archos is not going to fill either firewire or usb2
01:20:28tracktheripperso looks like tracktheripper and snorlax will never agree :-)
01:20:28tracktheripperlol
01:20:30MT:)
01:20:31Bagder/dev/hda2:
01:20:31Bagder Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 1.13 seconds = 56.64 MB/sec
01:20:48Bagderhdparm
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01:20:58Snorlaxnop, I've left archos and gone over to the dark side!
01:21:01SnorlaxMUAHAHAHAAH!
01:21:15Snorlaxcome, over to the dark side!
01:21:20tracktheripperwell Snorlax u love ur Ipod I love my Archos :-)
01:21:24tracktherippernothing is gonna change :-)
01:22:40tracktheripperi wish Bjorn was here :-(
01:22:49Bagderaaaah
01:22:53Bagderwe have a green build
01:22:59Snorlaxwhat u think of this: http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/ I'm so hyped up over this!
01:23:18Bagderit doesn't play mp3s yet, does it?
01:23:50Snorlaxyes........ but now realtime 80% same with ogg.vorbix(if anybody cares..)
01:23:57Snorlaxnot
01:24:10Snorlaxogg vorbis
01:24:20Snorlaxman my fingeres are fat!
01:25:01tracktheripperogg vobis isnt as good as MP3Pro
01:25:20MTso performance has to increase by 25% to leave nothing left over for ui?
01:25:21Bagderits better, its free
01:25:33SeeSchlosshmm as good as mp3pro ? really ?
01:26:03tracktheripperIve compared MP3Pro and Ogg sidebyside
01:26:05SnorlaxMP3 is never gonna die anyway..
01:26:06tracktheripperI find MP3Pro better
01:26:52tracktheripperSnorlax you are wrong Sony's ATRAC3 will rule the roost :-)
01:27:06Bagdernight all
01:27:08 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se")
01:27:08Snorlaxyeah right.. =)
01:27:21tracktheripperlol :-_
01:27:37Snorlaxwhat does :-_ mean?
01:27:52tracktherippershould have been :-)
01:28:08Snorlaxohh
01:28:52tracktheripperand Bjorn and co will become best mates with the chaps at Archos :-)
01:30:26 Nick SeeSchloss is now known as SeeSchlaway (~nim@139.109-30-212.9massy1-1-ro-as-i3-2.9tel.net)
01:30:47SnorlaxWhy not, Bjorn and the gang helped the Archos- Guys sell their player, didnt they?
01:31:03tracktheripperyup :-)
01:31:17tracktheripperbut they still won't add timestretching!!!! :-)
01:31:17tracktheripperlol
01:31:34SnorlaxWell honestly, they helped them ALOT
01:32:00tracktheripper:-)
01:32:08SnorlaxI remember sitting with the original firmware, I couldn't almost get a song out of the box!
01:32:51MThmm
01:33:05MTis there a way to get mp3pro at higher bitrates than 64?
01:33:08tracktheripperi had no probs wiv the Archos firmware
01:33:17tracktheripperwell MP3Pro will go to 96kbs
01:33:19tracktherippernot above
01:33:22SnorlaxI did, man I had problems!
01:33:46SnorlaxI'm the player even survived those 6 months!
01:33:52tracktheripperawwwww
01:34:07 Quit matsl_ ("Client Exiting")
01:35:13tracktheripperanyways im off to bed now
01:35:20tracktheripperlook after ur Ipod Snorlax
01:36:03Snorlaxnightinight
01:36:19tracktherippernite nite :-)
01:36:25tracktherippernite nite everyone :-)
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01:36:44Mine78sorry I am here again
01:36:52Mine78I compiled genlang and binlang
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01:37:02Mine78I then used it with .lang file
01:37:08Mine78I obtain a .h and .c file
01:37:16Mine78now how can i get .lng file ?
01:38:27Linus|awaybinlang
01:39:15Mine78binlang .c ?
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01:40:32TedHey guys...I know that the Recorder 10 is USB 1.1, and the Recorder 20 is USB 2.0, but does anyone know what the Recorder 15 is?
01:41:05Linus|awayTed: i assume it's 1.1
01:41:42Mine78when I type binlang languagefile.lang nothing happens
01:43:05Linus|awayperl binlang english.lang <yourlanguage>.lang outfile.lng
01:43:25Mine78ops................................... sorry.................
01:43:28Linus|awayi think
01:43:35SeeSchlawayLinus : I made a patch to correct the display of "rename" on a folder, should I put it on sourceforge (it only adds one line in tree.c) ?
01:43:38Mine78where is the eng language ?
01:43:58Linus|awaySeeSchlaway: what was wrong?
01:44:12Mine78found it !
01:44:19Linus|awayMine78: apps/lang/english.lang
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01:45:18SeeSchlawaywell in the ON+PLAY menu on a folder, the "rename" string is not always displayed
01:48:40Mine78I DID IT !
01:48:52SeeSchlawaybecause the heiht and the width of the strin are not definited before displayin it, so the values of the precedent displayed strin are used
01:48:54Mine78THANX TO ALL !!!
01:49:00Mine78ROCKBOX IS REALLY FANTASTIC !
01:49:03Mine78GOOD NIGHT !
01:49:15SeeSchlaway(I don't know if I am understandable...)
01:49:21Mine78I used Per2EXE a really cool application for win32
01:49:27Mine78Perl2Exe
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01:49:49LinusNSeeSchlaway: send the patch to linus at haxx.se and i'll merge it right away
01:53:05SeeSchlawayok it is bein sent
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02:03:13LinusNSeeSchlaway: fixed. thank you!
02:07:59SeeSchlawayok, now I really should o to bed... 2H am is a bit late when you have exams the same day
02:08:07SeeSchlaway'nite
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09:12:33CW-EGM92anyone here?
09:18:20CW-EGM92Hey guy's I'm looking to sell my Archos Jukebox 6000 20GB, I'm not looknig to make much of a profit I bought it for $300.00CAD= $190.00USD
09:20:08CW-EGM92I'd does have ware and tear, like all products, it works fine, I mainly used it as a HDD so it was stationary inside my PC tower I'm planning to get a Multimedia player, if anyone is intrested you can contact me at EGM92@HOTMAIL.COM, If your intrested maybe we could work out a deal?
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10:45:24quelsarukmorning edx
10:45:34edxhi
10:46:28CW-EGM92morning
10:46:49quelsaruki can't understand this :(
10:46:58CW-EGM92understand what?
10:47:22quelsaruki've lost the PC-mobile phone cable... inside my car!!
10:47:42CW-EGM92.............now that really is fucked lol
10:47:58edxhehr
10:48:17CW-EGM92Hey any of you guys looking for a JB 6000 20GB? i'M TRYING TO GET RID OF MINE
10:49:21CW-EGM92I'm looking to buy a multimedia player in the very very near future with like 60gb and camera mods
10:49:43CW-EGM92but I just need to get rid of this one to make up like 200$ I'm gonig to need
10:50:36quelsarukwell i have a JBR 30GB :)
10:50:56quelsaruki don't want to downgrade my jukebox
10:53:07CW-EGM92lol ok
10:53:38CW-EGM92hey do you know anything about the multi media player/
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11:01:19CW-EGM92hi
11:01:54quelsarukwao!
11:02:05CW-EGM92well it's 5am my time.... I think i may be going to bed now
11:02:16quelsaruksomeone gave linus a JBR FM!!
11:02:34quelsarukthat is a present
11:02:36CW-EGM92???
11:02:53CW-EGM92anyways nite to some, morning to other
11:04:04quelsarukjajaja
11:04:09quelsarukgood night CW-EGM92
11:19:29quelsarukcu on monday!
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13:10:48TBoyhi
13:10:59TBoyhi
13:11:06TBoycan some1 hear me
13:11:34SeeSchlosshmm how can I know the type of a file, for example to have certain options displayed only with mp3 files ?
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13:11:44SeeSchlossTBoy > yes, me
13:12:05TBoycause i get this #### unregistered copy
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13:12:28SeeSchlossunregistered copy ?
13:12:55TBoyyep and tells me to ask the webmaster to register it
13:13:18SeeSchlossbut a copy of what ?
13:13:30TBoydon't know
13:13:35TBoybut doesn't matter
13:13:44TBoyhey do you speak german
13:14:44SeeSchlosshmm mein Deutsch ist sehr schlecht...
13:15:07TBoytja mein english is auch besser
13:15:13TBoybin eben kein deutscher
13:16:35TBoywell what I wanted to ask if you know any other sites like the rockbox one but for a different player
13:17:02TBoysee I don't have an archos
13:17:39SeeSchlossah ok... hmm I only know the iPod Linux
13:18:16TBoysee I got an not yet released firmware for my treo 15 and now it
13:18:24TBoyhas a ui like the ipod
13:18:36TBoyor a very similar one
13:18:44SeeSchlosstreo 15 ?
13:19:04TBoyyep, www.edig.com you can see it there
13:20:22TBoywell I wanted to see if there would also be an open source firmware for my player but so far no luck
13:21:37SeeSchlosshmm I didn't even know e.Digital... but I prefer the FM Recorder design ;-)
13:22:30TBoyyep I really like that design
13:22:39TBoybut it is just a bit to expensive for me
13:23:01TBoywell over here in germany it is about $ 4xx
13:24:46SeeSchlossit's about the same price in France : ~450?
13:24:58SeeSchloss?=Euros
13:25:57TBoyok
13:26:42TBoyare we the only guys talkin on the net
13:27:37SeeSchlosswell I noticed that this chat is not very animated, most of the time
13:27:39TBoynet = chat
13:27:49TBoyoh ok
13:27:55TBoyso you got the fm recorder
13:31:12SeeSchlossyes
13:58:35TBoybut does rockbox support the fm recorder
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14:04:24SeeSchlossRockbox supports all the recorder features on the FM recorder
14:05:04SeeSchlossbut the FM is not supported yet
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14:29:57PhantomDJPhi
14:30:15PhantomDJPI have a really big problem
14:30:33PhantomDJPsince this morning rockobx don't want to load
14:31:12PhantomDJPit is only the original firmware (1.28) I ve try the 1.27d from archos and it don't load to
14:31:17PhantomDJPHELP ME PLEASEEEE
14:33:28SeeSchlossAs I say very often : "I'm afraid I can't help you, sorry"
14:33:44SeeSchlosshmm but what Archos do you have ? Recorder ?
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14:33:51PhantomDJPyes
14:34:36SeeSchlossWell as I own a FM Recorder, I certainly won't be able to help you
14:35:09PhantomDJP...
14:36:15PhantomDJPI sure it is an attack from W bush
14:36:36SeeSchlosslol there is no doubt
14:36:49PhantomDJPsince France is against the war...
14:37:53SeeSchlossWell it's a ood thin, to be against war, moreover when bush is for the war
14:38:03SeeSchlossood thin = good thing
14:38:29PhantomDJPi prefer, i was thinking you write "odd"
14:39:00SeeSchlossthere is bread under my "g" key
14:39:08PhantomDJPlol
14:39:13SeeSchlossso she doesn't work very well...
14:42:25PhantomDJP...
14:42:36PhantomDJPanybody else to help me ?
14:43:02PhantomDJPadi ? edx ?
14:43:09edxhm
14:43:36PhantomDJPdo you knows how i can fix that ?
14:43:55edxdid you lead a new firmware to your device?
14:43:58edxthis morning?
14:44:16PhantomDJPnon this night I listen with rockbox
14:44:25edxouh
14:44:34edxdid you try to re-load rockbox to your device?
14:45:03PhantomDJPjust the archos 1.27d and the Sid Rockbox
14:45:37edxwhat operating system do you use? windows?
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14:45:58Scheeraaah pt1
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14:46:49PhantomDJPXP
14:46:58SeeSchlossquoi XP ?
14:47:17PhantomDJPI was using linux but, after a format c:
14:47:26edxdid you "remove hardware safely"
14:47:31PhantomDJPwhen lilo start it pring :
14:47:31edxafter uploading the firmware?
14:47:55PhantomDJPL L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1...
14:48:00PhantomDJPyes
14:48:04PhantomDJPevery time
14:48:14edxstrange...
14:48:31edxhmm i dont know.. looks like I cant help you neither
14:48:39PhantomDJPARG
14:51:14PhantomDJPthat seem like a format J: ...
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14:52:38SeeSchlossbut maybe you can help me, how can I check whether a file is mp3 or not ? I mean to have some options displayed only if it is an mp3 file
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15:58:23stu11can u test an mp3 on your jb6000?
15:58:28stu11if you own one that is
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16:29:36BrianHHHi, all. I bought my Archos about a month ago. I had a problem with it, so I got an RMA over the phone. I don't have the "original packaging", but I've got the cable that came with it, and the headphones. Can I still exchange it?
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16:43:03BrianHHHi, all. I bought my Archos about a month ago. I had a problem with it, so I got an RMA over the phone. I don't have the "original packaging", but I've got the cable that came with it, and the headphones. Can I still exchange it?
16:45:04HadakaBrianHH: that's very hard to say for us - we don't work for archos, we don't work for the shops - it's up to them
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16:47:37BrianHHOkay, thanks, Hadaka. :)
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18:25:48Dracoonyhi!
18:27:11NewbieHi Guys, has anyone written a help guide on how a poor old Windoze guy can setup an environment to compile rockbox source code (I fancy playing) - I seem to have BIG problems understanding half the lingo
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18:27:42NewbieI have downloaded about 10 packages, CVS, TCL, TKtCl, WISH etc etc and none of it makes any sense
18:27:57BagderNewbie: you using the gnush way or the cygwin way?
18:28:14BagderI strongly suggest you go with cygwin
18:28:31NewbieThere - that's exactly what I mean LOL - actually I think I downloaded GNUSH
18:28:58NewbieOK - so I download CYGWIN - how do I get the sources
18:29:03Bagderhttp://rockbox.my-vserver.de/win32-sdk.html
18:29:33BagderI think it is pretty good and details every step you need to do
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18:30:11NewbieAwesome! - that looks a good place to start - thanks
18:30:42Bagderyou're welcome
18:30:42Dracoonyany germans here?
18:31:12NewbieOK - off to play - many thanks - bye for now (I might be back!)
18:31:30BagderNewbie: do use the mailing list in case you get stuck, there are plent of people that used that approach
18:31:35Bagderpleny
18:31:37Bagderplenty
18:31:39Bagderaarg
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18:32:09NewbieGood job you can speel the URL correctly ;)
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20:00:48langhaarrockeryes
20:03:28SeeSchloss.
20:15:10langhaarrockeranybody here who's not german? :)
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21:08:18CW-EGM92aiaf snyone is intrested in purchasing a used JB6000 20GB cheap, Email me at, EGM92@hotmail.com, maybe we can work something out
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21:14:48PhantomDJPhi
21:14:55PhantomDJPNEED HELP
21:15:25PhantomDJPimpossible to load rockbox (or other firmware) this this morning
21:15:39PhantomDJPonly the hard coded firmware start
21:15:46PhantomDJP(1.28)
21:15:56PhantomDJPplease help
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21:17:37PhantomDJPouinnnnn !!!
21:17:41PhantomDJPouin !!!!
21:17:45PhantomDJPsniff
21:21:54PhantomDJPI need your help
21:25:36PhantomDJPdon't let me alone
21:25:50SeeSchlosslol
21:26:47SeeSchlosshmm did you try DirectorySnoop to remove all the existin ajz files and then replace them with rockbox ?
21:28:24SeeSchlosshmm ?
21:29:24SeeSchlossj'adore parler tout seul...
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21:30:23SeeSchlossté encore un .fr
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21:32:15PhantomDJPoui
21:32:20PhantomDJPg fait ça
21:32:25PhantomDJPun formatage
21:32:43PhantomDJPje viens d'en daire un autre mais avec patitionmagic
21:32:51SeeSchlossouhlà
21:33:03PhantomDJPje teste...
21:33:38SeeSchlossalors vas chercher un marteau et un burin, je crois c'est la dernière solution
21:39:50PhantomDJPRHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!!!!!!!!
21:44:52PhantomDJPdon't work
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21:57:42PhantomDJPI don't understand
21:59:47PhantomDJPthe 1.4 load
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22:00:07PhantomDJPbut not any other daily build or personnal build
22:00:47PhantomDJPis rolo include in the 1.4 ?
22:04:22PhantomDJPok well
22:04:26PhantomDJPGood night
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23:21:03PhantomDJPis there anybody her ???
23:21:22PhantomDJPwho know a bit how work the firmware loading
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23:24:34CW-EGM92what exactly do you need?
23:28:21PhantomDJPI need to know why my archos recorder refuse to load any firmware execpt the orginal and the rockbox 1.28 since this morning
23:28:35PhantomDJPoupss
23:28:42PhantomDJPthe original is th 1.28
23:28:53PhantomDJPand the rockbox is the 1.4
23:28:55CW-EGM92heh
23:29:09PhantomDJPbut daily and personal build don't start
23:29:14PhantomDJPthe most strange
23:29:29PhantomDJPis that they start by using rolo
23:31:26PhantomDJP..
23:32:15PhantomDJPwell
23:32:31PhantomDJPnobody seem to be able to help me
23:34:35CW-EGM92hmm
23:34:43CW-EGM92well r u renaming the
23:34:47CW-EGM92files?
23:35:02PhantomDJP"ajbrec.ajz"
23:35:06PhantomDJPyes dad
23:35:13PhantomDJPsorry
23:35:18PhantomDJPSIR YES SIR
23:36:05CW-EGM92does it replace the file?
23:36:16PhantomDJPyes
23:36:27CW-EGM92damn that's weird
23:36:33PhantomDJPwhen it is the rockbox 1.4
23:36:37PhantomDJPit load
23:37:07PhantomDJPwhen i replaced it by any daily build
23:37:12PhantomDJPit don't load
23:37:41CW-EGM92hmmm I C... give me a couple of mni im gonig to check something out
23:44:19CW-EGM92sorry I got not Idea mine works perfectly, make it a bug report...maybe
23:44:44PhantomDJPwell
23:44:52PhantomDJPi will wait for the 2.0
23:46:51PhantomDJPLinus you have an archos for me ?
23:46:56PhantomDJPlol
23:47:25CW-EGM92are people giving away archoses?!
23:48:37PhantomDJPwell linus received a FR recorder 20 for his birthday by an unknow man
23:49:51 Join peter1 [0] (~jirc@ool-435572bb.dyn.optonline.net)
23:50:04CW-EGM92........
23:50:15CW-EGM92HIS REAL FATHER LOL
23:50:17peter1i read a post where it mentioned rerouting line wires of this device. im wondering if you could help me...could you describe to me how i would go about doing the rerouting/shielding (i wanna do both) and also disabling the internal microphone. any help/link/other forum that would be of assitance would be greatly appreciated.
23:50:46peter1im talking about the archos jukebox recorder 15
23:51:28CW-EGM92Anyone here intrested in buying a JB6000 20GB?
23:51:43PhantomDJP...how much ?
23:51:57CW-EGM92well if your intrested we could work out a price
23:52:09PhantomDJPin $ or €
23:52:16PhantomDJP€€€arg shit
23:52:29CW-EGM92IN $$ I live in Canada
23:52:29PhantomDJPthe euro character don't work
23:52:38CW-EGM92you PhantomDjp?
23:53:00peter1anyone have any idea?
23:53:03PhantomDJPThe beautifullest city of the world
23:53:20CW-EGM92...that doesnt help
23:53:29PhantomDJPpeter > not me
23:53:31peter1it does...hes in prage
23:53:37CW-EGM92i SWEAR IF U SAY FRIEND IM GONIG TO BEAT U!
23:53:44CW-EGM92PARIS/FRANCE
23:53:53PhantomDJPyes
23:53:58PhantomDJPparis
23:53:58peter1aww, booo
23:54:03PhantomDJPFRANCE POWER !!!
23:54:12CW-EGM92......BAH!!!
23:54:19peter1paris is overrated :X
23:54:25CW-EGM92very
23:54:26PhantomDJPwhat ???
23:54:31PhantomDJPyou dream
23:54:40peter1you been anywhere else?
23:54:47peter1*poke*
23:54:49PhantomDJPyes
23:54:59PhantomDJPNY LA London, Madrid ...
23:55:09PhantomDJPand a lot of other place in the world
23:55:09peter1have you seen aviero in portugal?
23:55:31peter1or how bout gomera on the canary islands
23:55:41PhantomDJPno, the portugal is one of the "big" country I've never seen
23:55:53PhantomDJPyes of canary island
23:55:54peter1you should go, its amazing
23:55:57CW-EGM92Hey Phantom, I'm sellnig it, used fully working, has normal wear and tear from being used as a hdd not a mp3player, comes with case, usb wire, usb head, manual, musicmatch cd, drives, and an extra USB wire and head, for 150$USD
23:56:02PhantomDJPbut I talk of important place
23:56:22peter1ahh, beauty and importance..
23:56:23CW-EGM92petere1 u portuguese?
23:56:27PhantomDJP..150$
23:56:28peter1nope
23:56:31CW-EGM92oh
23:56:33peter1im polsish
23:56:38CW-EGM92oh lol
23:56:39peter1polish even
23:56:50PhantomDJPand you ?
23:57:05CW-EGM92well Phantiom i bought it new for like 199.99 and then paid another 100 for upgade hdd
23:57:07peter1vienna's overrated too, or id say that
23:57:34PhantomDJPvienna will diseapear in less than 30/40 years
23:57:52peter1i trying to do live recording with this lil monster, but all these damn backround hisses...
23:58:16PhantomDJPdo you use rockbox to recording ?
23:58:19peter1no one here has tweaked thiers?
23:58:34peter1i dont think roxbox supports mine

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