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01:14:48 | tracktheripper | Hi |
01:15:35 | tracktheripper | i want my screen inverter :-) |
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01:42:04 | Tony | anyone not idle? |
01:42:10 | LinusN | i'm here |
01:42:33 | Tony | Is the recording feature for recording only in the daily builds |
01:43:18 | LinusN | yes |
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01:43:25 | Tony | OK, cool, thanks |
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01:45:16 | Snorlax | And my #ipodlinux channel is crowded as Hell! |
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01:45:26 | LinusN | wow |
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02:23:22 | davidc_ | ls |
02:23:28 | davidc_ | nm.. wrong terminal :) |
02:23:34 | LinusN | :-) |
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03:29:34 | MT | http://web6.scan.co.uk/Products/Info.asp?WPID=54595 |
03:29:41 | MT | got a trademark? |
03:30:57 | PsycoXul | got prior art if nothing else, but thats a hardware product name, and this is a software project so i dunno if there'd be any conflict |
03:32:20 | MT | they are both mp3 players tho |
03:32:26 | MT | same arena |
03:32:34 | MT | and you cant have prior art on a trademark :) |
03:33:25 | PsycoXul | oh |
03:33:47 | PsycoXul | why would you have a trademark on something that's not traded though heh |
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03:47:42 | bombadier337 | hey, LinusN, u no anything more about that fastforwarding bug on the recorder? |
03:48:06 | LinusN | what ff bug? |
03:48:44 | bombadier337 | like when u fastforward, but it says it fast forwareded, but still plays the old position |
03:49:20 | LinusN | yes, that may happen when you have VBR files without a VBR header |
03:49:34 | bombadier337 | it happens to me on cbr files |
03:49:38 | LinusN | oh |
03:49:52 | LinusN | tell me about the file |
03:50:00 | bombadier337 | ive done it on like 3 |
03:50:58 | bombadier337 | one is a 60 min chris rock standup,bitrate 128, two other 3-4 min songs, one is 128 bit the other 192 |
03:51:57 | bombadier337 | o well, its all good |
03:52:46 | bombadier337 | did sum1 want rockbox to make the recorder 20 become an fm recorder 20? |
03:52:51 | bombadier337 | i read sumthin like that earlier |
03:53:11 | LinusN | so the WPS tells you that the play position has advanced, but the audio is playing from the beginning? |
03:53:17 | bombadier337 | yes |
03:53:26 | LinusN | weirdo |
03:53:42 | LinusN | can you make the shortest of them available for download? |
03:53:51 | bombadier337 | ill try it on a newer build when my usb cable comes |
03:54:07 | bombadier337 | sure, ill put it up 2morrow |
03:54:12 | LinusN | we haven't changed that code in ages |
03:54:25 | bombadier337 | o, ok |
03:54:33 | bombadier337 | ill play around with it 2night |
03:54:46 | LinusN | the recorder->fmrecorder request is a joke |
03:54:54 | bombadier337 | where is it? |
03:55:07 | LinusN | somewhere in the feature request database i guess |
03:55:43 | bombadier337 | what was that guy smokin? |
03:56:52 | LinusN | well, it was a joke |
03:57:02 | bombadier337 | heh |
03:57:25 | bombadier337 | did tracktheripper write it by chance? |
03:57:44 | LinusN | i think so, yes |
03:59:34 | bombadier337 | well good news, im having trouble repeating the fast forward bug |
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04:02:59 | LinusN | good :-) |
04:03:24 | bombadier337 | r u like an eltrical engineer or sumthin? |
04:03:39 | LinusN | i am an embedded systems programmer |
04:03:47 | bombadier337 | nice |
04:03:55 | bombadier337 | what was ur major in college? |
04:04:42 | LinusN | languages; latin, italian, french and english |
04:04:48 | bombadier337 | sweet |
04:05:02 | bombadier337 | thats tricky, languages r not my thing |
04:05:19 | LinusN | i never had any computer classes |
04:05:28 | bombadier337 | kool |
04:05:44 | LinusN | and never went to university |
04:05:47 | bombadier337 | o |
04:06:05 | bombadier337 | i want to learn to program so bad |
04:06:12 | LinusN | self-taught |
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04:06:20 | bombadier337 | yeh, what i no, is self taught |
04:06:25 | bombadier337 | in c# |
04:06:45 | elinenbe | LinusN: hello! |
04:07:00 | PsycoXul | c#? heh |
04:07:11 | LinusN | hi elinenbe |
04:08:48 | LinusN | i like that the fm recorder charges the battery from the USB |
04:09:01 | elinenbe | LinusN: how long does a charge take? |
04:09:06 | bombadier337 | really, thats tight |
04:09:10 | elinenbe | LinusN: that must be nice for file transfers. |
04:09:27 | LinusN | i don't know how long it takes :-) |
04:09:40 | elinenbe | LinusN: I think the FM is a much nicer piece of hardware, BUT, I hate the fact that it does not use standard batteries. |
04:09:49 | LinusN | same here |
04:10:03 | bombadier337 | i got my recorder 20 for 25, im not complaining |
04:10:13 | LinusN | however, it seems that they have removed the remote control option :-( |
04:10:45 | elinenbe | really? |
04:10:50 | elinenbe | I wonder why they did that? |
04:11:18 | LinusN | i think the older models broke too often |
04:11:42 | LinusN | the serial port is sensitive |
04:12:13 | elinenbe | are the internal connections serial or parallel this time? |
04:12:30 | LinusN | you mean mas <-> CPU? |
04:13:03 | elinenbe | yeah. |
04:13:05 | LinusN | same same |
04:13:14 | elinenbe | Isn't it serial in the recorder. |
04:13:27 | LinusN | playback is serial, recording is parallel |
04:14:00 | elinenbe | LinusN: I think you should design a hardrive based mp3 player. |
04:14:07 | LinusN | :-) |
04:14:09 | elinenbe | LinusN: do they use the same MAS chip? |
04:14:24 | LinusN | yes, it is very similar to the old recorder |
04:14:36 | LinusN | only the power/battery stuff has changed |
04:14:44 | LinusN | and the radio of course |
04:15:06 | elinenbe | For the FM the charging is done through hardware −− is there some chip that takes care of it? |
04:15:31 | LinusN | yes, a dedicated LiIon charging chip, LTC1734 |
04:15:38 | bombadier337 | y doesnt the recorder buzz when charging through rockbox? |
04:15:48 | LinusN | not mine |
04:16:06 | LinusN | my recorder that is |
04:16:41 | LinusN | the fm recorder charging is not s/w controlled |
04:17:02 | elinenbe | Do you know the logic in that chip? Do you think that is is better or worse that it is hardware? |
04:17:14 | LinusN | better |
04:17:26 | LinusN | LiIon is tricky stuff |
04:17:30 | elinenbe | oh. |
04:17:42 | elinenbe | Well, if you have good LiIon code, then it shouldn't matter. |
04:17:46 | LinusN | you don't want to risk blowing up the unit because ov overcharging |
04:18:01 | elinenbe | on my 1800mAh batteries I get about 13-14 hours with Rockbox. |
04:18:06 | LinusN | cool |
04:18:08 | elinenbe | the batteries are ONLY .89$ |
04:18:12 | elinenbe | you can't really beat that. |
04:18:27 | elinenbe | that is why these proprietary batteries are so blah! |
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04:18:34 | LinusN | i agree |
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04:18:50 | LinusN | i should sleep too |
04:18:56 | elinenbe | LinusN: nah. |
04:19:02 | LinusN | :-) |
04:19:07 | elinenbe | LinusN: any luck with the radio? |
04:19:28 | LinusN | my new id3/mp3info code works great now |
04:19:42 | elinenbe | LinusN: what is that going to do? |
04:19:48 | LinusN | i haven't started with the radio driver, too busy with 2.0 |
04:20:13 | LinusN | the new id3/mp3info code is the base for the Xing header generator |
04:20:22 | elinenbe | ah... is that complicated? |
04:20:27 | LinusN | a little |
04:20:35 | bombadier337 | is 2.0 gonna bring big changes, or just like cvs? |
04:20:51 | LinusN | you have to parse the MP3 frame headers to calculate the position in time |
04:21:02 | LinusN | bombadier337: vcs _is_ 2.0 |
04:21:05 | LinusN | cvs |
04:21:11 | bombadier337 | thats what i thought, cool |
04:21:23 | LinusN | a few more features are on their way in, though |
04:21:30 | bombadier337 | u think there will be a playlist editor? |
04:21:36 | LinusN | like VBR header generation |
04:21:58 | LinusN | i don't think a playlist editor will make it into 2.0 |
04:22:00 | elinenbe | LinusN: does it scan the entire file after you stop the recording? |
04:22:05 | LinusN | yes |
04:22:17 | LinusN | either automatically or on demand |
04:22:21 | elinenbe | How long odes that take per minute of mp3? |
04:22:43 | LinusN | i don't know yet, i have only run it in the simulator |
04:22:47 | elinenbe | oh. |
04:22:59 | LinusN | it will take some time, i think |
04:23:06 | elinenbe | LinusN: how is your wife doing? |
04:23:15 | LinusN | bad, as usual :-) |
04:23:21 | bombadier337 | huh? |
04:23:24 | elinenbe | LinusN: sorry to hear that. |
04:23:33 | elinenbe | LinusN: there should be no smiley :( |
04:23:36 | LinusN | no change really |
04:23:43 | bombadier337 | what happened? |
04:24:09 | LinusN | bombadier337: complications when delivering our daughter this october |
04:24:19 | bombadier337 | o, im sorry to hear that |
04:24:29 | LinusN | yeah, it sucks |
04:25:06 | LinusN | elinenbe: the smiley was for "as usual" |
04:25:18 | elinenbe | LinusN: I see. |
04:25:23 | LinusN | anyway, i gotta get some sleep |
04:25:28 | elinenbe | LinusN: goodnight |
04:25:29 | bombadier337 | lata man |
04:25:38 | LinusN | cu around |
04:25:41 | bombadier337 | i hope everything turns out for the best |
04:25:50 | LinusN | thx |
04:25:52 | LinusN | nite |
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04:27:45 | bOmBadIEr337 | well im out |
04:27:47 | bOmBadIEr337 | peace |
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08:37:38 | Bagder | hi! |
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08:42:30 | dwihno | Hi! :) |
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08:57:12 | adi|home | Bagder you around? |
08:57:17 | Bagder | yeps |
08:57:23 | adi|home | k.. |
08:57:43 | adi|home | with language files.. if there is a bug namely a LANG_... misspelled |
08:58:00 | adi|home | is it better to correct the typo, or just add a correct label to the end of the lang file? |
08:58:05 | adi|home | and leave the typo one alone |
08:58:15 | Bagder | good question |
08:58:25 | Bagder | I'm not sure |
08:58:28 | Bagder | I'll check |
08:58:30 | adi|home | k |
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09:00:35 | Bagder | correcting the typo is the way |
09:00:49 | Bagder | but... |
09:00:54 | Bagder | all languages have that typo |
09:01:01 | Bagder | including the C source using it |
09:01:48 | adi|home | nods |
09:01:52 | adi|home | im going to fix them... all :( |
09:01:55 | adi|home | cool? |
09:01:58 | Bagder | yeps |
09:02:02 | adi|home | k.. off i go |
09:03:45 | Bagder | hey adi, don't change any order of things in the english lang file |
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09:10:50 | adi|home | define order.. |
09:10:58 | adi|home | we have that single id that was/is alone |
09:11:04 | adi|home | that was a mistake in it being there.. |
09:11:10 | adi|home | but other then that im not changing any order |
09:11:13 | dwihno | #define order :-D |
09:11:17 | adi|home | lol |
09:11:29 | Bagder | I was refering to that other problem monter mentioned |
09:11:46 | adi|home | the TETRIS one? |
09:11:49 | Bagder | yes |
09:11:57 | adi|home | grrr.. i fixed it.. but didn't commit yet |
09:11:58 | adi|home | why? |
09:12:15 | Bagder | we must not change the order of items in the english lang file |
09:12:26 | * | adi|home plays dumb |
09:12:26 | adi|home | why? |
09:12:34 | Bagder | because it screws up the language files |
09:12:58 | adi|home | im not trying to be an ass. but how does it screw it up? |
09:13:00 | Bagder | we should consider doing a cleanup and lang-version bump for 2.0 |
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09:13:38 | Bagder | it breaks backwards compability |
09:13:46 | adi|home | k |
09:13:50 | adi|home | ill unfix |
09:14:12 | adi|home | and you do realize that some of the language files don't have that TETRIS line right? |
09:14:29 | Bagder | the other files don't matter |
09:14:41 | Bagder | the english one is the master one |
09:14:47 | adi|home | okay.. so I can clean those.. just not the english one? |
09:14:53 | Bagder | yes |
09:15:09 | adi|home | can i add a comment to that id so that ppl know we are aware of it? |
09:15:26 | Bagder | sure, comments are good |
09:15:38 | adi|home | k |
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09:21:58 | Bagder | the header comment if the english.lang file actually spells out my warning as well ;-) |
09:34:39 | adi|home | okay.. fixes commited |
09:37:03 | dwihno | yay! |
09:37:07 | * | dwihno loves CVS commits! :D |
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10:06:25 | quelsaruk | hi |
10:07:05 | Bagder | hi quelsaruk |
10:07:21 | quelsaruk | anything new ? |
10:07:28 | quelsaruk | since friday :) |
10:07:50 | Bagder | not much, no |
10:16:20 | Schnueff | moin |
10:17:22 | adi|home | other then the sokoban changes.. not too much :) |
10:17:46 | Bagder | ah, right, forgot those |
10:18:11 | quelsaruk | umm |
10:18:20 | quelsaruk | i don't play sokoban.. i use my new mobil |
10:18:22 | quelsaruk | mobile |
10:18:25 | quelsaruk | :) |
10:18:29 | quelsaruk | java games ;) |
10:18:33 | Bagder | hehe |
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10:18:45 | Bagder | but you can't write your own for it |
10:18:52 | langhaarrocker | yes you can |
10:19:08 | Bagder | in theory, yes, in practise most often no |
10:19:11 | langhaarrocker | I already compiled the "hello world " for it |
10:19:27 | langhaarrocker | But I'm more interested in its blue tooth capabilites. |
10:19:31 | quelsaruk | langhaarrocker for presindent |
10:19:43 | Bagder | kjer wrote a tetris for his T68 |
10:20:04 | Bagder | only to find out that 1) it doesn't work 2) only he and no friends can play it |
10:20:07 | langhaarrocker | Maybe I'll do a multiplayer wormlet in java via bluetooth |
10:20:08 | quelsaruk | my brother would like that tetris... |
10:21:00 | langhaarrocker | But before I start that I want that damn configurable keys work in rockbox |
10:22:25 | langhaarrocker | But one thing in fact is suprising: most of the demos that come with the api for the s55 don't work. |
10:22:47 | quelsaruk | i haven't tried them |
10:23:19 | quelsaruk | the thing that more impressed me is that MMS technology is really bad |
10:23:24 | langhaarrocker | There's a spread sheed program, too. A spreadsheet for a mobile! What a nonsense. |
10:24:22 | langhaarrocker | I haven't managed to send MMS at first try and haven't investigated any further. |
10:24:48 | quelsaruk | i mean.. with siemens you can send midi files but sony-ericsson mobiles wont be able to play the midis.. so the only thing you can send are images and text, or voice records |
10:25:37 | langhaarrocker | so we have to programm a midi -> sony-ericsson converter :) |
10:26:29 | quelsaruk | a midi−−> imy converter |
10:26:32 | quelsaruk | :) |
10:27:02 | quelsaruk | i thought nowadays companys would work in a common way |
10:27:21 | quelsaruk | as they did with T9 |
10:27:46 | PsycoXul | heh yeah with all this fucking "corporate synergy" lately |
10:27:55 | Bagder | they did not with T9 |
10:28:07 | Bagder | there are at least three different ways, T9 is one |
10:28:45 | quelsaruk | yes.. but most mobiles have t9 or something like that.. with word recognition |
10:29:04 | Bagder | besides, SonyEricsson is still too much Ericsson ;-) |
10:29:26 | * | Bagder has done his share of projects for Ericsson |
10:29:26 | quelsaruk | of course... my brother has a T68i and i don't like it |
10:31:42 | langhaarrocker | Are there any MasterBlueToothUSB-Plugs? :) |
10:31:50 | Bagder | yes |
10:31:58 | Bagder | iirc |
10:32:39 | langhaarrocker | ?!?! I was thinking about something to plug into the archos and make it wireless. |
10:32:42 | quelsaruk | langhaarrocker: calpefrosh bought one of those.. as he is german maybe you can ask him |
10:32:49 | Bagder | uh |
10:32:53 | quelsaruk | (i think) |
10:32:58 | Bagder | well, it might exist something like that |
10:37:29 | * | dwihno has a 2-part question: What kind of sideeffects (a.k.a. surprise features) might the SLEEP + HD OFF patches have? |
10:39:23 | Bagder | you tell us! |
10:39:28 | Bagder | they should not have any |
10:39:33 | dwihno | Hmm... |
10:40:03 | dwihno | I'll do some testing during lunch |
10:43:17 | Zagor | hd off gives you longer spinup time, meaning it takes more time to change track. that's the only side effect i know of. |
10:43:36 | quelsaruk | it's better i don't try anything... i you want accurate results ;) |
10:44:21 | langhaarrocker | still voodoo in your rockbox? |
10:44:48 | dwihno | Zagor: What disk do you have? |
10:44:54 | * | dwihno got some hitachi ninja stuff |
10:44:54 | Zagor | toshiba 4018gap |
10:45:19 | dwihno | 4000-something rpm |
10:45:27 | Zagor | 4200, yes. that's the normal speed. |
10:46:34 | quelsaruk | langhaarrocker: even worst... now even my computer has demons |
10:48:33 | quelsaruk | i must go now |
10:48:41 | quelsaruk | cu l8r! |
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10:58:09 | dwihno | Zagor: I sometimes experience disk stops, the red light still lit and I need to reboot (happens when I bicycle) |
10:59:57 | langhaarrocker | I had that phenomenon, too. Seems to occur sometimes when the thing is shaken while accessing disk. But I haven't played with parameters yet. |
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11:00:41 | dwihno | I never experienced that with my IBM disk |
11:01:23 | langhaarrocker | mine is an ibm |
11:01:50 | dwihno | Adding a couple of anti-skip seconds might be the trick |
11:02:06 | * | dwihno still likes the power-off and sleep options |
11:02:39 | dwihno | what are the dimensions of the icons? |
11:42:10 | * | dwihno feels ignored |
11:45:24 | * | langhaarrocker is busy and has no clue |
11:48:19 | Schnueff | look in icons.h |
11:48:36 | Schnueff | 5x8, 6x8 oder 7x8 it seems |
11:48:49 | Schnueff | s/oder/or/ :) |
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12:09:20 | dwihno | People, have a look at this, and tell me what you think: http://dw.lahma.net/rockbox/two_state_thing.png |
12:14:14 | dwihno | Tell me what you think |
12:15:47 | dwihno | PsycoXul: what did you think about it? |
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12:19:40 | PsycoXul | um nifty |
12:19:41 | PsycoXul | heh |
12:19:46 | PsycoXul | looks nice |
12:21:34 | dwihno | The configuration needs to be simplified |
12:21:50 | dwihno | Right now, you have to press too many buttons in order to get some action going. |
12:25:44 | langhaarrocker | half of my buttons are broken already. |
12:28:50 | dwihno | Since my serial neural archos accessory isn't done yet, there might be an idea simplifying the configuration |
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12:41:17 | kuji | hallo |
12:41:28 | dwihno | hello! |
12:41:45 | kuji | can someone answer me a simple question.... pleeeeeze/..... |
12:42:05 | kuji | when recording, I cannot transfer files back to my pc... always says file corrupted... is this SMCS nonsense.. ? |
12:42:31 | kuji | 'file or directory is corrupted or unreadable' |
12:42:33 | dwihno | hmm |
12:42:37 | dwihno | well, what build do you use? |
12:42:45 | kuji | latest daily build |
12:43:01 | dwihno | run scandisk on the hd and check if there is any file system errors |
12:43:02 | kuji | I can xfer all other files back and forth ok. |
12:43:17 | kuji | theres nowt, done a scandisk and norton disk doctor |
12:44:04 | dwihno | What do you do when your recording is finished? |
12:44:16 | kuji | press off once |
12:44:24 | dwihno | so you've exited the recording screen? |
12:44:56 | kuji | yes.. |
12:45:03 | kuji | well one off stops |
12:45:08 | kuji | another goes out of menu |
12:45:38 | kuji | I couldnt find any docs about recording so just playing with it.. |
12:47:05 | dwihno | I don't use recording myself... |
12:47:31 | dwihno | Linus has done the recording code, and Zagor did the file system stuff (if I remember everything correctly) |
12:47:36 | kuji | are there ANY docs about recording.. |
12:47:46 | kuji | Im not sure Im stopping it the right way. |
12:47:47 | dwihno | There is some threads discussing this in the mailing list, have you checked them out? |
12:47:59 | kuji | yes, all seem to be about the time recording bug |
12:49:26 | dwihno | Then I don't think I can help you :-/ Talk to Zagor or Linus, they might be able to help you. |
12:49:46 | kuji | hopefully I will catch one of them,. |
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12:49:59 | dwihno | welcome back, quel |
12:50:04 | quelsaruk | hi dwihno |
12:50:07 | dwihno | :-) |
12:50:08 | Zagor | kuji: which daily build are you using? |
12:50:09 | dwihno | Que pasa? |
12:50:11 | quelsaruk | any spare goats?? |
12:50:23 | quelsaruk | i think i'll need them today |
12:50:24 | dwihno | Non, non spare goato caramello! :-) |
12:50:33 | quelsaruk | :) |
12:50:36 | kuji | archos20030225.ajz |
12:50:49 | kuji | did same on all the others back to 1.4 |
12:50:53 | kuji | is fricking weird |
12:51:06 | kuji | I can copy files to and fro no prob.. but NOT any recorded ones. |
12:51:12 | Zagor | kuji: if you make a very short recording, like 5-6 seconds, do you get the same problem? |
12:51:18 | kuji | Im wondering if its copy protecting them. |
12:51:23 | Zagor | no, it's a bug |
12:51:25 | kuji | Zag.. yes no matter the length |
12:51:43 | Zagor | have you ever reformatted the disk? |
12:51:47 | kuji | is that right to just press off to finish the recording. |
12:51:52 | Zagor | yes |
12:51:54 | kuji | Yes, I have formatted it before.. |
12:52:07 | Zagor | be careful to not press too long, or you'll shut off the whole unit... |
12:52:19 | kuji | I can copy the files back if I boot into archos rom. |
12:52:30 | Zagor | !! really? |
12:52:32 | kuji | yeah.. |
12:52:44 | kuji | Let me just double check that... |
12:52:46 | Zagor | *that's* weird |
12:52:51 | langhaarrocker | But usb transfer doesn't depend on the firmware. |
12:52:54 | kuji | just rebooting it |
12:53:31 | kuji | ahh shit.. no... it wont.. |
12:53:42 | kuji | it will let me play em on the box |
12:53:45 | Zagor | ok |
12:53:50 | Zagor | which windows version are you using? |
12:53:59 | kuji | XP |
12:54:36 | kuji | oh and I noticed a bug report that said about the drive light staying on and music stopping.. I get this... managed to stop it by setting the skip protection to less than 7 |
12:54:54 | langhaarrocker | shouldn't concern usb transfer |
12:55:25 | Zagor | kuji: do you have another computer available to try on? with another windows version? |
12:55:26 | kuji | I'll try all inputs as recording and check they are all stuffed |
12:55:27 | dwihno | kuji: I'm experinencing the light staying on with my new disk too... I'll test it throughly during lunch |
12:55:41 | Zagor | kuji: input should not matter |
12:55:46 | kuji | I'll try it with USB1 see if thats any different |
12:56:01 | langhaarrocker | Have you manually changed the clustersize when fdisking / reformatting your drive? |
12:56:15 | kuji | no its standard |
12:57:31 | kuji | ok USB1 no diff... will try on an ME machine |
12:59:10 | langhaarrocker | But you can see the files in the explorer and they have a real size (>0)? |
12:59:15 | kuji | yes |
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13:01:35 | kuji | under ME... 'access denied or file may be in use' |
13:03:10 | langhaarrocker | Didn't linus lately change something? Like closing the file after each buffer write? |
13:03:34 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: yes |
13:03:43 | Zagor | but that shouldn't matter for short recordings |
13:04:31 | kuji | it did the same before that |
13:04:54 | quelsaruk | zagor |
13:05:14 | quelsaruk | do you have time for our dialectic fight? |
13:06:11 | Zagor | kuji: if you have time, it would be good if you could format the disk on a non-xp machine and see if that changes anything. I have a suspicion that XP has changed the fat32 file system slightly... |
13:06:14 | quelsaruk | i must convince you that my quick screen menus are better for "long-words" languages |
13:06:40 | Zagor | quelsaruk: right. how did you modify the screens? |
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13:07:54 | * | langhaarrocker opens the door for the pizza boy |
13:08:07 | Zagor | hi bagder |
13:08:39 | quelsaruk | i changed the display so we have now something like " << Repeat mode: " and in the middle of the next line the status of that option |
13:08:44 | Bagder | hi |
13:09:03 | quelsaruk | the same with the shuffle mode.. |
13:09:05 | quelsaruk | and so on |
13:09:23 | quelsaruk | also for the F3, recording F2 and F3 ... |
13:09:29 | quelsaruk | Dj screen... |
13:10:07 | quelsaruk | the way it's now is cooler |
13:10:13 | Zagor | I don't like making a menu of it all. it's not as intuitive. |
13:10:38 | quelsaruk | sorry.. i didn't understand that |
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13:10:49 | Schnueff | it's not operated like a menu |
13:10:56 | quelsaruk | not like a menu |
13:11:02 | Zagor | I mean I really like how the screen looks like the keys. |
13:11:13 | quelsaruk | i normally explain myself as a closed book :( |
13:11:16 | langhaarrocker | why not label the left and right button vertically and leave the layout as it is? |
13:11:38 | Schnueff | i would imagine vertical labels dont look good |
13:12:11 | quelsaruk | zagor, if you use spanish, or german (not tested other languages) some strings join and make them look very ugly, and also you can't read them |
13:13:07 | quelsaruk | i know this is not as intuitive as having the display the same way as the keypad |
13:13:21 | Zagor | quelsaruk: did you try simply skipping the word "mode" ? |
13:13:28 | quelsaruk | yes |
13:13:35 | quelsaruk | but that is just a small problem |
13:13:40 | quelsaruk | for example |
13:13:49 | quelsaruk | scrollin spanish is "Desplazamiento" |
13:14:01 | quelsaruk | a bit longer than scroll.. |
13:14:12 | quelsaruk | or line in is also bigger... |
13:14:13 | Schnueff | maybe cut the vocals :) |
13:14:17 | Schnueff | dsplzmnt |
13:14:31 | quelsaruk | Schnueff: i could read that, but not a normal user.. |
13:14:37 | quelsaruk | or at least not all users |
13:14:39 | Schnueff | just joking :) |
13:15:20 | quelsaruk | if i send a sms to my brother and say xk instead of porque.. we would never know that is the same x= "por" and k sound like "que"... |
13:15:26 | quelsaruk | :) |
13:15:28 | langhaarrocker | lets have a virtual quickscreen that keeps scrolling around |
13:16:20 | quelsaruk | Zagor: that's why i thought of using this other way |
13:16:38 | quelsaruk | is less intuitive, but as you have the icon at the left side.. |
13:17:01 | quelsaruk | you know which button you have to press to change repeat mode |
13:18:00 | * | langhaarrocker thinks that internationalization is a pain and uses english |
13:19:47 | quelsaruk | langhaarrocker: i must say i normally use english, i admit that.. but i have friends that have a very poor english base (Spain is really a mess teaching other languages) |
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13:21:49 | Zagor | quelsaruk: i sympathize with you, but I really like the keybard-like layout of the quick-screens. maybe there's a good middle ground somehow? |
13:22:22 | quelsaruk | i hope so ;) |
13:22:29 | quelsaruk | ok... |
13:22:46 | quelsaruk | i'll give you 20 goats.. and you change to my screens display |
13:22:51 | quelsaruk | nothing more |
13:22:57 | quelsaruk | maybe 21 |
13:23:00 | quelsaruk | but not 22 |
13:23:08 | langhaarrocker | can you 'interleave' the description of left / right keys? |
13:23:20 | Bagder | would those be spanish goats? |
13:23:40 | quelsaruk | of course... from the very south of Spain ;) |
13:23:58 | langhaarrocker | experienced goats? |
13:25:01 | quelsaruk | 2 of them have seen a ritual, the other are still inocent |
13:25:18 | quelsaruk | langhaarrocker: what do you mean with interleave? |
13:26:02 | langhaarrocker | left button: description left aligned |
13:26:02 | langhaarrocker | right button description right aligned one line lower |
13:26:30 | langhaarrocker | but both descriptions can use all of the screen width |
13:27:24 | quelsaruk | so left icon is at the left |
13:27:33 | quelsaruk | and right icon is at the right? |
13:27:56 | langhaarrocker | just an idea. And I don't really like it very much... |
13:28:11 | quelsaruk | but then.. what do we do with up and down? |
13:28:30 | langhaarrocker | They remain at the very top / bottom. |
13:29:47 | quelsaruk | Zagor? |
13:30:54 | quelsaruk | any idea of how i could change this screens to fit your intiutive model and my internationalisation? |
13:31:47 | langhaarrocker | Another idea: we could implement a jog dial. You just have to rub over the direction keys cyclically. :) |
13:34:31 | dwihno | Yay for food! :) |
13:34:37 | quelsaruk | by dwihno |
13:35:16 | * | langhaarrocker finished his pizza and wants another one |
13:36:38 | quelsaruk | i must reboot |
13:36:42 | quelsaruk | cu in 1 minute |
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13:39:01 | langhaarrocker | kuji: can you copy (not move) the file although it is 'in use'? |
13:39:25 | langhaarrocker | oh, he's offline |
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13:41:35 | quelsaruk | hi again |
13:42:08 | quelsaruk | i'm still waiting to see if we negotiate with those goats... |
13:42:09 | quelsaruk | :) |
13:42:58 | langhaarrocker | you forget: zagor is a programmer, not a techno priest. He has other means to purify his electronical devices |
13:43:33 | quelsaruk | but when everything fails... you can only ask a technopriest for advice |
13:43:35 | quelsaruk | :) |
13:43:46 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: you're right. I much prefer camels for my rituals :-) |
13:43:56 | langhaarrocker | argh |
13:44:20 | dwihno | :-) |
13:46:05 | quelsaruk | camels?.. they are not good for cold countrys |
13:46:11 | quelsaruk | countries |
13:46:12 | quelsaruk | ;) |
13:46:59 | langhaarrocker | I supposed that programmes use other anmials. Like gnu, yacc, bison, ... |
13:47:27 | quelsaruk | :) |
13:47:36 | Bagder | :-D |
13:47:55 | langhaarrocker | you know the new camel shell? |
13:48:48 | quelsaruk | well, then, if i get a way to make a menu intuitive and compatible with other languages.. we can talk again about this no? |
13:50:24 | Bagder | of course |
13:50:59 | Zagor | quelsaruk: I would recommend playing around with photoshop or something to try and come up with a good a nice-looking screen |
13:51:18 | quelsaruk | why not gimp? |
13:51:20 | quelsaruk | ;) |
13:51:24 | Zagor | of course |
13:51:28 | Zagor | gimp rocks |
13:51:31 | quelsaruk | i know |
13:52:59 | dwihno | Zagor: did you check my screen thing I did? |
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13:53:01 | Zagor | can a fork()ed child change it's own priority (to a lower prio) ? |
13:53:02 | quelsaruk | Zagor: can i use a colorfull menu? |
13:53:03 | dwihno | Please tell me you did! :) |
13:53:08 | Zagor | dwihno: umm, no :) |
13:53:13 | dwihno | *sob* |
13:53:17 | dwihno | dw.lahma.net/rockbox |
13:53:21 | dwihno | I did pretty gfx ;) |
13:53:42 | Bagder | Zagor: yes, nice() can be set on your own process, afaik |
13:53:43 | Zagor | lookie lookie |
13:53:53 | quelsaruk | hey it's cool |
13:54:01 | langhaarrocker | aprops gimp: any hires t-shirt contest images available? |
13:54:02 | quelsaruk | ericsson display |
13:54:03 | quelsaruk | :) |
13:54:22 | Bagder | langhaarrocker: I'm trying hard to get adi to make some and send me |
13:54:25 | Zagor | dwihno: fix set_bool() and i'll merge it :-) |
13:54:47 | quelsaruk | btw... Zagor, why don't we change the charge animation, to a ericsson charging animation? |
13:55:03 | Bagder | because we haven't recevied any patch doing that |
13:55:07 | Zagor | how does that look? |
13:55:23 | dwihno | Zagor: Was it pretty? :) |
13:55:28 | Bagder | dwihno: you should upgrade your apache server ;-) |
13:55:46 | quelsaruk | Bagder, Zagor did you say that to me? |
13:55:51 | dwihno | Bagder: the entire server needs an upgrade, but my friend hasn't gotten the fingrar ur yet ;) |
13:56:06 | dwihno | Bagder: what did U think? |
13:56:12 | Bagder | neato |
13:56:25 | Zagor | the best part is it works for players too |
13:56:51 | Bagder | we still support players? ;-P |
13:56:55 | * | Bagder hides |
13:56:58 | Zagor | hehe |
13:57:12 | Bagder | I was thinking |
13:57:27 | Bagder | about enabling a special 8MB build on the daily build page |
13:57:57 | Zagor | mo' builds! |
13:57:58 | Zagor | ;) |
13:58:05 | dwihno | mo' builds, mo' problems! |
13:58:13 | dwihno | With my mind on the builds and the builds on my mind |
13:58:28 | Bagder | yeah, those 8MB people could really get some things going |
13:58:33 | langhaarrocker | are there more debug or more 8MB models around? :) |
13:58:35 | Bagder | like increasing playlist and dircache sizes etc |
13:58:51 | Bagder | there's ONE debug unit, afaik ;-) |
13:58:59 | Bagder | or is it two zagor? |
13:59:25 | Zagor | i don't know |
13:59:38 | Bagder | are your units debugable? |
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14:00:03 | Zagor | oh, two debug units. one player and one recorder. |
14:00:05 | langhaarrocker | no. I use all the jacks |
14:00:42 | quelsaruk | mine? are you crazy Bagder? a technopriest unit debugable?? thn i could not say i'm a technopriest... |
14:00:48 | dwihno | is it possible to do direct file manipulation with sed or awk? |
14:01:06 | quelsaruk | i science know where are the errors... there's no place for faith :) |
14:01:09 | Bagder | cat file | sed -e s/mooo// > newfile |
14:01:34 | dwihno | Bagder: you can't change the file directly? |
14:01:58 | Schnueff | perl -i.bak -pe 's/mooo//' file |
14:02:01 | Bagder | with awk it might be, but I never attempt that |
14:02:25 | Schnueff | -i like inline |
14:03:15 | dwihno | inline? |
14:03:31 | Schnueff | yeah, backup the file into file.bak and change file |
14:03:36 | dwihno | mkay |
14:03:52 | dwihno | sed can only do streams? |
14:03:57 | Schnueff | dunno about sed |
14:04:02 | Schnueff | :) |
14:04:04 | Bagder | sed does streams, yes |
14:04:13 | Schnueff | thats sad |
14:04:23 | Bagder | no, sed |
14:04:24 | dwihno | :-) |
14:04:26 | Schnueff | :) |
14:04:28 | * | Bagder ducks |
14:04:30 | dwihno | You are so geeky |
14:04:39 | Schnueff | sed makes me sad |
14:04:39 | dwihno | (which is a good thing, otherwise there would be no rockbox) :) |
14:14:50 | quelsaruk | time to go home |
14:14:54 | quelsaruk | see you later |
14:14:55 | quelsaruk | :) |
14:15:03 | langhaarrocker | have fun with your goats :) |
14:15:09 | dwihno | :-)( |
14:15:37 | quelsaruk | i'm harvesting so i must cook one today ;) |
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14:58:28 | adi|home | Bagder or Zagor you guys see montor's new post? |
14:58:38 | adi|home | about the joined id's? |
14:59:10 | adi|home | am i allowed to split them, or does that qualify as 'moving' them? |
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15:00:36 | Bagder | adding a newline makes no difference |
15:02:23 | adi|home | k |
15:04:05 | adi|home | okay.. corrections commited |
15:04:13 | dwihno | anyone got the url for the 7.5 meg SDK? |
15:04:30 | Bagder | http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/win32-sdk.html |
15:05:10 | dwihno | thank you :) |
15:05:19 | Bagder | its in the docs page |
15:05:48 | langhaarrocker | If I'd search for it I'd search on the download page ... |
15:05:49 | dwihno | it is? |
15:05:58 | * | dwihno needs to get his contacts |
15:06:05 | Bagder | "Setup a cygwin Rockbox development environment (Windows)" |
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15:08:07 | Kuji | zagor.. you dere ? |
15:08:10 | langhaarrocker | kuji: can you copy (not move) the file although it is 'in use'? |
15:08:27 | Kuji | right Ive formatted under ME.. same problem |
15:08:36 | Kuji | I cannot copy file no. |
15:08:43 | Kuji | havent tried renaming.. |
15:09:02 | Kuji | can renamre |
15:09:12 | Kuji | can move |
15:09:16 | Kuji | cannot move to PC |
15:09:38 | langhaarrocker | tried to move to different places on the pc? |
15:09:49 | Kuji | yeah same thing |
15:09:57 | Kuji | but can move on the box anywhere |
15:10:09 | langhaarrocker | fascinating |
15:10:51 | Kuji | but yet windows or dos will allow me to rename, delete it. |
15:10:52 | langhaarrocker | And that concerns only files recorded with rockbox? A mp3 transfered pc -> rockbox -> pc works? |
15:10:58 | Kuji | yes |
15:11:08 | Kuji | but not a rockbox recorded file |
15:11:14 | Bagder | you tried scandisk on the archos? |
15:11:19 | Kuji | ye its fine |
15:11:25 | Bagder | weeeeird |
15:11:26 | langhaarrocker | oh, you recorded with the archos firmware? |
15:11:27 | Kuji | chkdsk, norton disk doctor all ok |
15:11:29 | Kuji | nonono |
15:11:42 | Kuji | a rockbox recorded file |
15:11:48 | Kuji | archos ones will copy no problem |
15:12:05 | langhaarrocker | (because archos firmware does strange things with the fat) |
15:12:08 | Kuji | tried files 4 ,6 ,8 , 12 seconds |
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15:12:44 | Kuji | It seems just like an SMCS thing, where windows is stopped from making copies |
15:13:04 | langhaarrocker | that cannot be. smcs woud prevent from making a file at all |
15:13:15 | langhaarrocker | But once you have the file it's just a file. |
15:13:22 | Kuji | mmm |
15:13:52 | Kuji | anything you want me to try |
15:14:41 | langhaarrocker | As you already tried older rockbox versions with recording I can't think of anything. |
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15:15:32 | Kuji | does 1.4 have recording ? |
15:15:44 | langhaarrocker | no |
15:16:01 | Kuji | what is the earliest build that does... |
15:16:52 | dwihno | the first builds with recording are probably unstable as fubar |
15:17:36 | Kuji | just to test the file xfer |
15:19:02 | Zagor | Kuji: the file xfer is not handled by the firmware |
15:19:37 | langhaarrocker | but what makes windows think the file was in use? |
15:20:04 | Zagor | I don't know. sounds like a file write problem, but I have no clue how to write a file so windows thinks it's in use... |
15:20:34 | Schnueff | hm |
15:20:41 | Schnueff | what about a file created with 'create playlist' |
15:20:49 | Kuji | trying now |
15:20:51 | Schnueff | one could try to copy this |
15:21:06 | dwihno | smart thinking, Schnueff |
15:21:29 | Kuji | how do I add to playlist |
15:21:37 | Kuji | the file at 0 bytes copies fine. |
15:21:55 | Schnueff | in the menu there should be a 'create playlist' entry for the recent builds |
15:22:01 | Kuji | ye |
15:22:01 | Schnueff | (recent = some weeks old) |
15:22:05 | Kuji | how to add |
15:22:21 | langhaarrocker | it makes a playlist of the selected dir |
15:22:27 | Schnueff | if you select it, a playlist for all mp3s in and below the current dir will be created |
15:22:27 | Kuji | ahh ok |
15:23:20 | Kuji | aha.. no it wont |
15:23:33 | langhaarrocker | so the copy problem is not recording specific. |
15:23:57 | langhaarrocker | can you open the m3u file with a text editor? |
15:24:25 | Kuji | no access |
15:25:56 | langhaarrocker | :( |
15:25:56 | langhaarrocker | another topic: I use Win2k. It won't allow me to safely remove the archos unless I relogin. Does anybody experience the same? |
15:26:08 | Kuji | how to add to a queue.. I could try copying the queue file |
15:26:19 | Schnueff | on + play iirc |
15:26:28 | Schnueff | or something |
15:27:52 | Kuji | nope that neither.. so its a file structure thing |
15:28:45 | langhaarrocker | If so - why does it pass scandisk / norton. |
15:29:14 | Kuji | fuck nose |
15:29:26 | Schnueff | what |
15:29:32 | Kuji | fuck knows . |
15:29:34 | Kuji | no idea |
15:29:39 | * | Schnueff fingers his nose. |
15:29:42 | Kuji | hehe |
15:29:48 | * | dwihno has lot of snot in his |
15:30:02 | langhaarrocker | I won't ask how it got in there |
15:30:32 | dwihno | Then I won't tell you that I got a cold during saturday |
15:31:45 | langhaarrocker | dwihno: avoid sneezing at the monitor. |
15:32:13 | Kuji | well ran chkdsk under dos.. |
15:32:30 | Kuji | says <file> first allocation unit is not valid. The entry will be truncated. |
15:32:45 | langhaarrocker | that usually finds all those files generated with the archos firmware. |
15:33:09 | Kuji | this found the queue, the mp3 recorded and the playlist ! |
15:33:28 | Zagor | Kuji: chkdsk found the error, but not norton or scandisk??? |
15:33:49 | Kuji | no |
15:35:59 | Kuji | basically any files that rockbox creates come up as first allocation unit is not valid. The entry will be truncated. |
15:36:04 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: you don't steal bugs from the archos firmware, do you? |
15:36:29 | dwihno | langhaarrocker: i've avoided it this far, keeping only thumb marks |
15:36:31 | Kuji | bloody chdsk removes the files |
15:36:33 | Zagor | that bug is due to fubar file system. it's alarming that scandisk does not find/fix this. |
15:37:40 | Kuji | hope this all helps in some way !! ;-) |
15:38:45 | langhaarrocker | Kuji: My workaround to this problem used to be to move the file archos -> pc -> archos. Afterwards scandisk was happy. |
15:39:08 | Kuji | I'll try and move it with archos.. |
15:39:30 | Kuji | see if it moans |
15:39:34 | langhaarrocker | I meant moving the files, not the device :) |
15:39:47 | Kuji | I gotcha ;-) |
15:39:56 | Kuji | nope file is still buggered |
15:40:30 | langhaarrocker | doesn't surprise me: I think the os moves only the entry in the fat around |
15:41:01 | langhaarrocker | can you copy it somewhere else on the jb? |
15:41:05 | Kuji | yes |
15:41:12 | langhaarrocker | is the copy movable? |
15:41:13 | Kuji | rename or delete |
15:41:16 | Kuji | no |
15:41:35 | Kuji | oh hang on.. I'll double check that |
15:41:43 | langhaarrocker | now it becomes even more strange to me. The copy was written by the os! |
15:41:54 | Kuji | ahh no it wont let me copy |
15:41:56 | Kuji | sorry |
15:42:05 | Kuji | just move, rename or delete |
15:42:34 | langhaarrocker | what's fubar file system? |
15:43:22 | Kuji | bloody weird thats for sure |
15:45:14 | Kuji | is there a site for the archos new beta firmware ? |
15:45:44 | Kuji | I wonder if they will have nicked any code from RB. |
15:46:00 | langhaarrocker | Isn't all the archos firmware beta? ;) |
15:49:21 | dwihno | Kuji: beta firmware? |
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16:14:15 | dwihno | Kuji: what kind of beta firmware are you talking about? |
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16:22:28 | quelsaruk | hi.. |
16:23:37 | dwihno | Bienvenue! :D |
16:23:57 | quelsaruk | not really |
16:24:10 | quelsaruk | i've fried my portable case... |
16:24:15 | quelsaruk | maybe a 6GB HD.. |
16:24:23 | quelsaruk | a 30 GB hd.. |
16:24:24 | quelsaruk | and... |
16:24:37 | dwihno | you did?! :( |
16:24:38 | quelsaruk | i have 10% chance of having fried my jukebox |
16:24:46 | quelsaruk | in just 10 minutes |
16:24:52 | quelsaruk | a record |
16:25:06 | quelsaruk | i've never done anything like that before... |
16:25:29 | dwihno | what have you done? |
16:25:32 | dwihno | What did you do? |
16:25:43 | langhaarrocker | you told us you were going to fry goats only! |
16:25:44 | dwihno | You're a technopriest! You can't have broken anything! |
16:26:00 | dwihno | langhaarrocker: perhaps the goats got a hold of his juke... |
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16:26:34 | quelsaruk | i think i shouldn't have told the goat i was going to eat it |
16:26:37 | quelsaruk | :( |
16:26:59 | langhaarrocker | Please tell us how to fry 2 drives and a jukebox within 10 min. |
16:27:06 | quelsaruk | i dunno how |
16:27:08 | quelsaruk | well.. |
16:27:17 | quelsaruk | i know how to fry a hd and the case |
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16:27:27 | quelsaruk | but not the jukebox and the 30 GB hd |
16:27:56 | langhaarrocker | (training required, I guess) |
16:28:22 | quelsaruk | i umounted the 30 gb h from the case and connected it to the jukebox ( it was on the case to remane mp3... defrag hd...) |
16:28:55 | quelsaruk | then.. i connected the 6gb hd to the case, but i made a stupid and weird error |
16:29:01 | NJoin | gissehel_ [0] (gissehel@AFontenayssB-105-1-5-228.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
16:29:49 | langhaarrocker | omitted the rubber sheet? |
16:29:57 | quelsaruk | don't know how, but conected pins in a weird way, left pins 1,2 disconected and conected pins 3,4 where i should have conected 1 and 2 |
16:30:23 | quelsaruk | like rolling all pin rows i setp right |
16:30:46 | * | langhaarrocker shivers |
16:31:01 | dwihno | what pins? |
16:31:04 | dwihno | disk pins? |
16:31:04 | quelsaruk | so when i powered it up... |
16:31:11 | quelsaruk | yes.. disk pins |
16:31:30 | * | quelsaruk can't explain all the smoke and fire... |
16:31:31 | dwihno | :-/ |
16:31:47 | quelsaruk | that's how you can break a hd and a case... |
16:31:49 | dwihno | Damn goats! :( |
16:32:03 | quelsaruk | but i dunno what happened to the jukebox |
16:32:06 | quelsaruk | i swear |
16:32:08 | quelsaruk | :( |
16:32:23 | quelsaruk | i don't want to test it today... |
16:32:46 | quelsaruk | i don't really worry about the 6gb hd, 'cause i got it for free |
16:32:52 | quelsaruk | but my little case.... |
16:33:02 | quelsaruk | i loved it so much... |
16:33:04 | quelsaruk | :( |
16:33:17 | quelsaruk | and i'm really worried about the 30GB hd... |
16:33:36 | quelsaruk | i don't want to convert all my music to mp3 again! |
16:34:30 | quelsaruk | (thanks god neither zagor or bagder are here to see this big mess) |
16:35:35 | langhaarrocker | but your s55 is still fine? |
16:35:49 | langhaarrocker | (lets search for the positive) |
16:36:08 | dwihno | quelsaruk: look at this from the bright side - it's an excellent opportunity to upgrade your disk! :) |
16:36:17 | quelsaruk | again? |
16:36:32 | quelsaruk | langhaarrocker: i don't want to touch it... |
16:36:49 | quelsaruk | just in case i still have electrostatic electricity and fry it too |
16:37:06 | quelsaruk | i think i can change the case... |
16:37:45 | dwihno | you still have your goats. |
16:37:49 | dwihno | that's also positive. |
16:37:59 | quelsaruk | as i bought it as a dealer, so i can say that i've sold it today and it was broken... |
16:38:39 | quelsaruk | the 30 GB hd has still warranty |
16:38:46 | dwihno | good :-) |
16:38:52 | quelsaruk | i most fear all the info |
16:39:00 | quelsaruk | and the jukebox |
16:39:10 | quelsaruk | but as i didn't make anything strange... |
16:39:25 | quelsaruk | i hope it was just a joke |
16:40:05 | quelsaruk | i must check my technopriest licence, maybe i have to renew it :) |
16:40:27 | dwihno | perhaps it has been cancelled becuase of this event?! :) |
16:40:36 | quelsaruk | i hope not |
16:45:50 | quelsaruk | i must leave you now |
16:45:59 | quelsaruk | may the source be with me... |
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17:10:33 | Norrin | Sorry to bother the hard working individuals of Rockbox but was curious if the Rockbox firmware for the FM recorder supports the FM tuner? |
17:11:06 | webmind | dunno.. not likely..and uhm.. if it does.. it's probably on the site? |
17:11:43 | Norrin | I've read the FAQ, nothing listed there. Daily builds don't mention the FM tuner support either. Thanks for your time. |
17:16:13 | webmind | np, i though people where working on the support for the fm thingie.. dunno how far it was |
17:16:59 | Schnueff | rockbox seems to run decently on the FM but none of the extra features of it are supported |
17:17:05 | Schnueff | (yet) |
17:21:36 | Norrin | I had a Jukebox Studio 20 which was pretty difficult to deal with until I loaded the Rockbox firmware on it. The FM recorder is better but look forward to using Rockbox firmware. Cheers. |
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17:34:48 | MT | LinusN is working on it, so I expect it will end up working :) |
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18:08:25 | tracktheripper | Hi |
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19:01:35 | Stephen | hey all |
19:01:37 | [Del] | yo |
19:02:08 | Stephen | Just like to say Rockbox rules :D Just saw today that it's now working on the FM recorder, and I love it :D |
19:02:25 | Stephen | been waiting ages for it :) |
19:02:27 | [Del] | i didn't like my fm recorder. |
19:02:31 | [Del] | i returned it. |
19:02:37 | [Del] | it wouldn't play a bunch of songs that i had. |
19:03:00 | Stephen | My first one had a hard drive error |
19:03:07 | Stephen | but the store replaced it without moaning |
19:03:26 | [Del] | that's cool. |
19:03:36 | [Del] | when i took mine back, the girl dropped it. |
19:03:41 | Stephen | lol |
19:03:41 | PsycoXul | heh |
19:03:45 | [Del] | i was like, "oh, that's gonna suck for whoever buys it next" |
19:05:05 | Stephen | just wondering is there a downloadable version of the documentation? |
19:05:36 | [Del] | not that i know of. |
19:05:39 | [Del] | just save all the pages. |
19:06:14 | Stephen | OK just wondered :D I was going to just save the pages if there wasn't |
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19:08:36 | tracktheripper | Hiiiiiiiiii |
19:08:44 | [Del] | yo |
19:09:01 | tracktheripper | hi Del |
19:09:04 | [Del] | For the record, "track", this is IRC, not AOL. On "i" will do. ;-) |
19:09:22 | tracktheripper | :-O! |
19:09:26 | tracktheripper | how did u know im on AOL?! |
19:09:39 | [Del] | call it a hunch. |
19:09:43 | tracktheripper | lol |
19:09:43 | [Del] | or a whois. |
19:09:49 | [Del] | you and your java applets. |
19:09:54 | tracktheripper | Ok |
19:09:57 | tracktheripper | Hi |
19:09:59 | tracktheripper | better? |
19:10:00 | [Del] | Hi. |
19:10:01 | [Del] | Yes. |
19:10:18 | tracktheripper | :) |
19:10:21 | tracktheripper | u have an FM recorder? |
19:10:31 | [Del] | I used to. I returned it. |
19:10:40 | tracktheripper | oh right whys that? |
19:10:44 | tracktheripper | I have a JBRec10 |
19:10:54 | [Del] | because it wouldn't play a bunch of my tracks. |
19:10:57 | [Del] | i've got a rec15. |
19:11:12 | tracktheripper | is that the one wiv the black corners? |
19:11:30 | [Del] | yes. |
19:11:37 | [Del] | if by "wiv" you mean "with". |
19:11:37 | tracktheripper | cool |
19:11:43 | tracktheripper | :-( |
19:11:49 | tracktheripper | ok "with" |
19:12:18 | tracktheripper | and I have an Archos Jukebox Recorder 10 and it has the Hitachi Hard Drive which is 10 Gigabytes :-) |
19:12:42 | [Del] | Spectacular. |
19:13:03 | tracktheripper | heehee :-) |
19:13:49 | tracktheripper | Why didnt you like the FM rec? |
19:14:01 | [Del] | [13:10:40] <tracktheripper> oh right whys that? |
19:14:01 | [Del] | [13:10:44] <tracktheripper> I have a JBRec10 |
19:14:01 | [Del] | [13:10:53] <[Del]> because it wouldn't play a bunch of my tracks. |
19:14:46 | tracktheripper | perhaps your files are corrupt. My Archos has never given me trouble |
19:15:33 | [Del] | No, they're not corrupt, because they play fine in wmp, winamp, fb2k, and the rec15. |
19:15:44 | tracktheripper | oh okay |
19:16:25 | tracktheripper | What bitrate are your files? |
19:16:28 | [Del] | I don't know what the deal was. |
19:16:29 | [Del] | 128. |
19:16:35 | tracktheripper | i use 192 |
19:16:43 | [Del] | i rip at 192. |
19:16:52 | tracktheripper | you said 128 :-) |
19:17:00 | [Del] | I know I did. |
19:17:04 | [Del] | They were seperate questions. |
19:17:13 | [Del] | What bit rate are your files? 128. |
19:17:16 | [Del] | What do I rip at? 192. |
19:21:47 | tracktheripper | yea |
19:21:52 | tracktheripper | All of my MP3s are 192kbs |
19:22:02 | tracktheripper | don't like 128kbs as I can hear compression artifacts |
19:22:21 | [Del] | I can't. |
19:22:41 | tracktheripper | What ripper do u use? |
19:23:12 | [Del] | ac. |
19:23:20 | tracktheripper | i use musicmatch |
19:23:28 | [Del] | I don't like that app. :) |
19:23:37 | [Del] | I'm very against skinnable things. |
19:23:40 | tracktheripper | well it does my ripping duties fine |
19:23:52 | [Del] | Splendid. |
19:23:56 | tracktheripper | and it uses the Fraunhofer codec which is the best in the business ;-) |
19:24:41 | [Del] | Good job? |
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19:24:52 | [Del] | yay wrong button. |
19:24:57 | tracktheripper | welcome back |
19:25:01 | [Del] | Thanks. |
19:25:08 | tracktheripper | yea the Fraunhofer codec is the best |
19:25:31 | [Del] | It depends on whose research you listen to. |
19:26:13 | tracktheripper | the Blade codec and the Lame codecs are crap |
19:26:29 | [Del] | I reiterate: |
19:26:30 | [Del] | It depends on whose research you listen to. |
19:26:54 | tracktheripper | yes |
19:27:02 | tracktheripper | but im talking about personal experience |
19:27:06 | tracktheripper | im an MP3 connesiour |
19:27:37 | [Del] | Obviously. |
19:27:54 | tracktheripper | but anything is better than WMA |
19:28:19 | [Del] | So, you're a WMA connesiour as well? |
19:28:25 | tracktheripper | NO! |
19:28:33 | tracktheripper | I HATE wma :-) |
19:28:55 | [Del] | So then, not knowing about it, how can you degrade its worth? |
19:29:12 | tracktheripper | ive heard WMA on Windows Media Player |
19:29:16 | tracktheripper | its crap compared to MP3 |
19:29:27 | tracktheripper | Who wants to encolde at ultra-low bitrates anyway? |
19:30:07 | [Del] | I don't know. |
19:30:11 | MT | people who want to transmit voip |
19:30:16 | tracktheripper | lol |
19:30:18 | [Del] | voip people. |
19:30:19 | [Del] | Yeah. |
19:30:21 | tracktheripper | MP3Pro is cool as well |
19:30:30 | tracktheripper | I appreciate MP3Pro but not WMA |
19:30:44 | [Del] | You should write your own codec, track, since you're the pro. |
19:31:00 | tracktheripper | well unfortunatly tracktheripper cannot program to save his life |
19:31:05 | tracktheripper | im a listener not a writer :-) |
19:31:23 | [Del] | He can, however, type in the thrid person, and manage to completely avoid all punctuation. |
19:31:57 | tracktheripper | Del, tracktheripper did pass his english exam. :-) |
19:32:15 | [Del] | And a miracle we all found that to be. |
19:32:38 | tracktheripper | <−−−−−−−−−− has had his feelings hurt :-(. |
19:33:35 | tracktheripper | :-) |
19:33:44 | tracktheripper | @−−:-)−−@ |
19:33:55 | [Del] | ... this is still IRC. |
19:35:40 | adi|work | calm down children |
19:35:45 | adi|work | don't make me pull this car over |
19:35:49 | [Del] | I'm perfectly calm, dude. |
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19:36:09 | Walter | I'm calmer than you are. |
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19:37:57 | tracktheripper | <−−- is perfectly calm |
19:41:26 | tracktheripper | where are you Delboy? |
19:42:43 | [Del] | That's [Del]. |
19:42:46 | [Del] | And I'm here. |
19:42:53 | tracktheripper | ok [Del] |
19:43:08 | tracktheripper | Im off to have my dinner, ill be back on soon. |
19:43:22 | [Del] | cya. |
19:43:42 | tracktheripper | Bjorn upset me more than anyone else!!! :-) hahaha! |
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20:11:16 | tracktheripper | Hi. |
20:11:48 | tracktheripper | just had dinner. |
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20:14:08 | tracktheripper | if you miss then you try again. |
20:15:52 | tracktheripper | you there Del? |
20:17:49 | [Del] | yeah |
20:17:50 | [Del] | sup? |
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20:18:47 | tracktheripper | wondered where you were! |
20:18:52 | tracktheripper | didn't mean to upset you! |
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20:19:36 | [Del] | you didn't. |
20:19:38 | [Del] | i'm at work. |
20:19:54 | tracktheripper | oh right. |
20:20:37 | tracktheripper | where do you work at? |
20:21:14 | [Del] | www.digitalsystemsgroup.com |
20:21:37 | tracktheripper | oh right ill check that out |
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20:37:57 | [Del] | Apparently he didn't like it. |
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20:54:25 | Stephen | anyone around? cause I've got a question |
20:55:52 | [Del] | yo. |
20:55:52 | quelsaruk | maybe... |
20:55:57 | Stephen | lol |
20:56:26 | Stephen | is the "deep discharge" option included with the FM Recorder version of rockbox? cause I can't seem to find out, maybe I'm looking in the wrong place though |
20:57:21 | [Del] | It should be. |
20:59:04 | Stephen | any idea where? |
20:59:19 | Stephen | or has it been renamed to "power saving" cause thats all I can find |
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21:00:00 | [Del] | I'm not sure. |
21:01:27 | Stephen | I know I've already said it once today but I love the WPS :D |
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21:03:19 | [Del] | hehe. |
21:03:21 | [Del] | me too. |
21:03:48 | Stephen | Do archos do a remote control for the fm recorder? or is it just for the studio |
21:04:26 | [Del] | just studio, iirc. |
21:04:40 | Stephen | ah right |
21:05:18 | Stephen | ah that was my other question (I know I'm annoying :D), File Delete & Rename are on the feature list, how do you access them? |
21:05:40 | [Del] | in the file list, press on, and play, at the same time. |
21:05:50 | Stephen | ah I see |
21:05:52 | Stephen | thanks :D |
21:05:56 | [Del] | np |
21:06:16 | Stephen | rename was something that annoyed me that the archos firmware didn't have |
21:06:33 | [Del] | a lot of things annoyed me about the archos firmware. |
21:07:00 | Stephen | thats the other thing :D creating playlists? |
21:07:15 | [Del] | What about it? |
21:07:45 | Stephen | how? |
21:07:53 | [Del] | press F1 |
21:07:58 | [Del] | scroll to Create Playlist |
21:08:01 | [Del] | and press Play |
21:08:10 | [Del] | while in the file listing. |
21:08:18 | Stephen | doesn't that just add all the files in the current directory? |
21:08:35 | [Del] | recursively. |
21:09:07 | Stephen | I meant is it possible to do something like on the original, hold the play button to add it to the list |
21:09:15 | Stephen | for example I may want a song from |
21:09:29 | Stephen | the folder /folder/something/album |
21:09:45 | Stephen | and the whole folder /folder2/artist |
21:10:22 | [Del] | i'm not sure. |
21:11:14 | Stephen | oh well I'll just use Rolo to change firmware when I need to do that |
21:11:17 | Stephen | no biggy |
21:12:22 | Stephen | anyway thanks for your help. you've been greta |
21:12:22 | [Del] | aye. |
21:12:24 | Stephen | *great |
21:12:26 | [Del] | np. |
21:12:27 | [Del] | anytime. |
21:12:31 | Stephen | gtg |
21:12:45 | Stephen | probably be back some other time with more annoying questions :D |
21:13:01 | [Del] | k |
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21:23:03 | quelsaruk | cu tomorrow |
21:23:09 | [Del] | cya |
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22:12:25 | [Del] | yo |
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