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01:47:49 | Norrin | Has anyone had a chance to look over the RSTATION.BIN file on the FM Recorders? Curious if it's possible to edit the file on the computer versus adding each station manually. |
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02:05:57 | dvr-505 | hello |
02:07:18 | dvr-505 | anyone knows if the recording problem is solved???????? |
02:07:45 | dvr-505 | stops recordind at abou 63mb or 1h long........???????? |
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02:28:38 | LinusN | dvr-505: yes, it seems to be solved |
02:29:06 | LinusN | try the next daily build, or the bleeding edge |
02:29:08 | LinusN | nite |
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03:02:23 | LuiT | howdi |
03:03:00 | LuiT | hello? |
03:03:36 | LuiT | hmm, well, I was just wondering whether anybody knows if there is gonna be some opensource firmware development for the Archos Multimedia |
03:08:08 | elinenbe | LuiT: probably not. |
03:15:22 | LuiT | damn, that sux |
03:15:32 | LuiT | I just saw the requests being rejected on the webpage |
03:15:58 | LuiT | the options on that thing will just be so much more! one could make it really incredible I think |
03:16:24 | elinenbe | yeah, well, Archos have made it much more difficult to hack. |
03:16:46 | LuiT | hmmm, I will just have to start bugging the developers a bit with a few kickass ideas, maybe they will listen |
03:16:47 | LuiT | oh |
03:16:50 | LuiT | damn |
03:16:56 | LuiT | why would they do such a thing! |
03:16:59 | elinenbe | bug Archos, not Rockbox. |
03:17:04 | elinenbe | we are quite busy. |
03:17:07 | LuiT | I think I might |
03:17:15 | LuiT | hehe, I can imagine |
03:17:17 | elinenbe | If Archos were to release more of the specs then things would happen |
03:17:18 | LuiT | well, thanx anyway |
03:17:28 | LuiT | I might just bug them |
03:17:48 | LuiT | cause really, the fact that the other ones are so tweakable was one of the main reasons for me buying it |
03:18:47 | LuiT | well, off to work with me, cheers |
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03:23:22 | Guest | I just downloaded and installed rockbox on my JukeBox 20 gig player. Before I put Rockbox, my tape adapter only played from 1 speaker (the right). After Rockbox it seems to work much better (both speakers and almost no background noise) Did you do somethng that would have this effect or am I dreaming? |
03:30:12 | elinenbe | Guest: this is true. |
03:30:45 | elinenbe | Guest: I used to use the jukebox in my car and there was an awful high pitched whine. With rockbox it is completly gone. |
03:51:41 | Guest | thanks |
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04:46:00 | elinenbe_ | jzoss: hi there. |
04:46:21 | elinenbe_ | jzoss: you did the ID3 patch −− right? |
04:49:03 | jzoss | yup |
04:49:20 | jzoss | Thanks for catching the missing patch file. It should be back up again. =) |
04:50:30 | elinenbe_ | jzoss: I was wondering if you could add a nice feature to the patch :) |
04:50:43 | jzoss | Whatcya lookin for? |
04:50:46 | elinenbe_ | there are two things I think could improve it considerably. |
04:52:29 | elinenbe_ | the option to choose between writing ID3 1 and ID3 2 tags. |
04:52:49 | elinenbe_ | please do not erase already written tags |
04:52:53 | jzoss | Why would you only want one or the other? |
04:53:25 | jzoss | Yah, I wrote out the pseudocode to preserve already written tags, but it's kind of a pain to implement, so I didn't (yet) |
04:53:46 | elinenbe_ | and last but not least... some sort of already implemented tags. |
04:53:53 | elinenbe_ | like for artists save the last 5 |
04:53:55 | elinenbe_ | etc... |
04:54:11 | jzoss | Yah, that last request was on my "limitations" list (I think) |
04:54:56 | jzoss | But why would you want to choose between id3v1 and id3v2 tags? I'm confused on that one.... |
04:55:16 | elinenbe_ | and you can either choose one of those or enter another... |
04:55:22 | elinenbe_ | I like ID3 v2 tags. |
04:55:36 | jzoss | Currently, it always writes *both* id3v2 and id3v1 tags. |
04:55:38 | elinenbe_ | I like the unlimited size of them. |
04:55:41 | elinenbe_ | yeah I know. |
04:56:04 | jzoss | Yah, me too. So why would you not want the id3v1 tags? It's only 128 bytes, and helps compatability with old stuff and all... |
04:57:18 | elinenbe_ | I guess. I have been removing htem from all my files. |
04:57:29 | elinenbe_ | the recorder supports them, so why do I need to worry. |
04:58:56 | jzoss | Well, I don't really know if it's worth it to remove id3v1 support. But I'm with you on the other 2 items. They're both on my todo list... it's just how long it takes to put those in place |
04:59:20 | jzoss | Before I do those, I'm making a new (quick) patch for customizable recording filenames |
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05:01:41 | elinenbe_ | no −− not remover ID3v1 support but make it an option in the options menu |
05:01:58 | elinenbe_ | tag editing /id3v1/id3v2/id3v1&2 |
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05:02:42 | elinenbe | that is odd, I downloaded the patch yesterday and compiled, and then it was gone today! |
05:03:00 | jzoss | You don't think that's overly excessive on the options? I mean, it doesn't *hurt* anything to have the extra tags around. {shrug} |
05:03:10 | jzoss | Yes, the disappearing patch thing was quite odd. |
05:03:14 | elinenbe | well, personally I am all for the options. |
05:03:41 | jzoss | Lesse what Zagor & Co think. They might just reject the patch flat-out. =) |
05:03:41 | elinenbe | I would rather have feature bloat through options and then the player becomes "your" player |
05:04:06 | elinenbe | I hate the wahy my friend has his recorder set up and he hates the way I have mine set up, but with rockbox, we are both happy! |
05:04:22 | elinenbe | jzoss: usually well thought out patches are accepted. |
05:04:36 | elinenbe | I would give this one a good chance of being kept |
05:06:27 | elinenbe | I like it −− that is all that matters =) |
05:06:30 | jzoss | would you mind logging those requests as a comment under the patch to help me keep track? I'm always losing/forgetting stuff otherwise. =) |
05:06:38 | elinenbe | no problem. |
05:06:44 | jzoss | thx |
05:12:52 | elinenbe | jzoss: updated the patch form. |
05:13:41 | jzoss | thx again |
05:15:31 | elinenbe | jzoss: is there anything else you are thinking about implementing? |
05:16:12 | jzoss | other than the custom-recording-naming? Nothing right now. =) I gotta finish this work up, and then I'll be down for a little while; I'm upgrading my computer. =) |
05:16:40 | elinenbe | good luck with that. Last time I upgraded my laptop with a new processor and graphics card it was a pain in the ass. |
05:16:57 | jzoss | heh. Desktop should be a bit easier than a laptop (hopefully) |
05:17:08 | elinenbe | yeah ;) |
05:18:00 | elinenbe | is custom recording name an option in the recording menu? |
05:18:18 | jzoss | it will be |
05:18:25 | elinenbe | that's a GREAT idea. |
05:18:49 | elinenbe | in my case I would always have it set to "Pimp Recording %date %time" |
05:19:20 | jzoss | I'm thinking custom like sprintf or wps... where you specify %ti/%ar/%al for title/artist/album and %yr/%mo/%dy/%mn/%sc for timestamp stuff |
05:19:33 | elinenbe | oh −− that is such a nice idea |
05:19:49 | elinenbe | and you will be able to edit it on the rockbox? |
05:20:04 | elinenbe | I wish I could edit .wps (or text files for that matter) on the fly. |
05:20:27 | jzoss | And you can use absolute paths (/recordings/%mn%sc.mp3) for centralized recordings or relative paths (%mn%sc.mp3) for local-directory recordings |
05:20:43 | jzoss | Yah, the plan is to just use the same keyboard entry as for id3-editing and file-renaming |
05:20:43 | elinenbe | and are you near completion on this −− it sounds awesome! |
05:20:47 | elinenbe | nice! |
05:20:50 | jzoss | Nah, just getting started. |
05:21:03 | jzoss | But it's not so tricky (in concept; we'll see about the details) |
05:21:21 | elinenbe | nothing is too tricky (in concept) |
05:21:28 | elinenbe | I can write pseudocode all day long. |
05:21:36 | elinenbe | but actually programming is another issue! |
05:22:14 | elinenbe | brb |
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05:22:38 | jzoss | Yah, but this stuff is pretty high-level. All (most?) of the tricky low-level stuff has already been done by Bjorn, Badger, Linus, & company |
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05:25:41 | jzoss | welcome back |
05:25:46 | elinenbe_ | hi there. |
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05:44:20 | elinenbe_ | rockbox: do you have a rock in your pocket? |
05:44:38 | jzoss | ?? |
05:45:11 | elinenbe_ | rockbox: it's better than breakfast |
05:45:29 | jzoss | tell me you don't work for marketing. ;) j/k |
05:45:35 | elinenbe_ | rockbox: what parents don't let kids try |
05:45:55 | elinenbe_ | rockbox: you must be older than 15 or have parents consent |
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05:46:16 | elinenbe_ | rockbox one: can be ejoyed by both men and women |
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05:46:41 | elinenbe_ | _seb_: you here? |
05:48:12 | elinenbe_ | rockbox: America's biggest inner city problem in the past 10 years. |
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05:49:14 | elinenbe_ | Rockbox: Man's new best friend. Little, Blue, Powerful. |
05:49:52 | elinenbe_ | Rockbox: Viagra can't touch this: Little. Blue. Powerful. Loud. |
05:50:08 | Woody1 | Hi there, can anyone advise on how to get back to the archos firmware after installing rockbox? I read the FAQ about Rolo, but it wasn't clear. |
05:50:17 | jzoss | either: |
05:50:34 | elinenbe_ | Woody1: delete the ajbrec.ajz (if you have a recorder) |
05:50:45 | elinenbe_ | Woody1: or delete archos.mod (on a player) |
05:50:47 | jzoss | 1) download archos firmware from website to archos (name something other than ajbrec.ajz) and "PLAY" from within rockbox |
05:51:03 | jzoss | 2) or do like elinebe says and delete/rename ajbrec.ajz (and reboot) |
05:51:18 | Woody1 | That seems kinda permanent. Is there a way to easily go back and forth so I can record when I need to? |
05:51:38 | jzoss | Option 1) is easier for switching back and forth |
05:52:00 | elinenbe_ | Woody1: get the latest daily build for the recorder (recording works) |
05:52:01 | jzoss | If you reboot, and your ajbrec.ajz is rockbox firmware, you'll always reboot into Rockbox |
05:52:23 | jzoss | and, from rockbox, you can "play" archos firmware to revert for whatever you need it |
05:53:04 | elinenbe_ | Woody1: jzoss and I are both correct, just choose whichever method you like best |
05:53:04 | Woody1 | So I've actually replaced the archos firmware with Rockbox then? |
05:53:25 | elinenbe_ | Woody1: yes, but the archos firmware is also built into the chip |
05:53:54 | elinenbe_ | the archos firmware boots off the chip and then check to drive to see if there is another firmware that should be booted. |
05:53:55 | jzoss | archos firmware always resides in ROM and boots first. But, if you have an "ajbrec.ajz" (for recorder) file in the root directory, it'll boot into that firmware immediately on reboot (whether it's rockbox or archos) |
05:54:17 | jzoss | heh. enlinenbe...I should just let you talk. =) You're doin a fine job. hehe |
05:54:21 | elinenbe_ | you can never truly delete the archos firmware. |
05:54:29 | elinenbe_ | jzoss: go program =) |
05:54:48 | jzoss | pbbbt. :P That's what I'm doin! Stop crackin the whip. ;) |
05:55:16 | jzoss | elinenbe_: whatdya think for custom rec format keys (%??): |
05:55:39 | Woody1 | So when jzoss says "download the firmware from website to archose and rename" I am actually just downloading a reference of some sort |
05:56:00 | jzoss | I could keep it like wps (%it, %ia, %id, etc) for consistency or use a new set (%ti, %ar, %al) for easier-to-remember. |
05:56:25 | Woody1 | jzoss did not mispell "archos" |
05:56:26 | jzoss | I'm voting for consistency, personally, to keep it less confusing. Besides, the "easy-to-remember" probably still aren't that easy. ;) |
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05:57:14 | jzoss | Woody1: archos releases their own firmware updates (which you can download from their website). |
05:57:52 | jzoss | If you put these as /ajbrec.ajz, the default (hardcoded, undeleteable, always loads first) ROM firmware will load the new/improved/downloaded firmware when you reboot. |
05:57:56 | elinenbe_ | Woody1: archos releases about 3-4 firmware updates per product |
05:58:13 | elinenbe_ | Woody1: the last one the released for the recorder was maybe 18 months ago. |
05:58:27 | Woody1 | I'm entering the Peace Corps soon; do y'all think the latest build that includes recording is reliable enough to be 'the one" |
05:58:37 | jzoss | Rockbox uses this same mechanism, but puts its own firmware in ajbrec.ajz, instead of an updated archos firmware. So the default/builtin/ROM archos firmware thinks its an "update" and loads it. |
05:58:41 | elinenbe_ | well, when are you heading out? |
05:58:56 | Woody1 | May 4th |
05:59:00 | jzoss | I would download an archos firmware so you can easily switch back if needed. |
05:59:14 | elinenbe_ | oh −− so much will happen between now and then with rockbox |
05:59:30 | elinenbe_ | I would probably grab a daily build. |
05:59:40 | elinenbe_ | if it is not to you rliking you can delete it from within rockbox. |
05:59:45 | Woody1 | Will do. Thanks for the advice |
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06:00:06 | Woody1 | I don't like the Archos recording function anyway. I seem to lose files that I swear I was recording |
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06:41:47 | elinenbe__ | jzoss: you still here? |
06:41:52 | jzoss | yup |
06:41:57 | elinenbe__ | I have some comments about the patch. |
06:41:58 | jzoss | but (hopefully) not for long. =) |
06:42:02 | jzoss | yah? what's up? |
06:42:05 | elinenbe__ | well, this will be quick |
06:42:20 | elinenbe__ | forget this ON+PLAY bullshit... |
06:42:30 | elinenbe__ | if you are on a song in the browser then you hit menu |
06:42:47 | elinenbe__ | the show ID3 info should be "show/edit ID3 info" |
06:43:05 | jzoss | yah, that would work |
06:43:11 | elinenbe__ | that would be more intuitive |
06:43:15 | elinenbe__ | way more intuitive. |
06:43:21 | jzoss | I just wanted to gropu it with the other file-level operations (rename & delete) |
06:43:28 | elinenbe__ | I understand. |
06:43:41 | elinenbe__ | those should work the same way too (at least I think) |
06:43:50 | elinenbe__ | but the ID3 operation is already in the "main" menu |
06:43:53 | jzoss | But, yeah, since the "Edit ID3 Tag" is floating around in that menu anyway.. |
06:44:13 | jzoss | It also doesn't do anything (currently) when not playing, so that'd fit nicely. |
06:44:19 | elinenbe__ | yeah! |
06:44:33 | jzoss | When stopped, menu entry does edit of currently-selected file. |
06:44:37 | elinenbe__ | I also keep trying to hit play to edit the files. |
06:44:43 | jzoss | When playing, menu entry does display of currently-playing file |
06:44:56 | jzoss | I like that. I'll change that sometime soon. =) |
06:44:57 | elinenbe__ | jzoss: yeah −− that sounds awesome. |
06:45:12 | elinenbe__ | I mean I keep hitting play to edit the tag. |
06:45:23 | jzoss | Right. I understood |
06:45:24 | elinenbe__ | I think it would be nicer to hit PLAY insted of RIGHT. |
06:45:30 | elinenbe__ | that is just my preference though. |
06:45:44 | jzoss | Yah, but play is already the queue-ing function while playing |
06:45:47 | elinenbe__ | year should start at current year −− not 1900! |
06:45:53 | jzoss | So that's why I didn't wanna pick that. |
06:46:00 | elinenbe__ | jzoss: yeah. |
06:46:22 | elinenbe__ | I really do like the new ID3 browser though −− much nicer :) |
06:46:24 | jzoss | And it defaults to 1900, 'cause it actually defaults to zero; which is out of range in the integer-UI, which auto-sets out-of-range values to min/max |
06:46:41 | jzoss | I didn't much like the default unentered-to-1900 either. ;) |
06:46:53 | elinenbe__ | maybe implement other tags (lyrics, picture viewer, comment) :) |
06:47:04 | elinenbe__ | actually comment I think would be nice. |
06:47:08 | jzoss | dork. 'Cause a picture-viewer is trivial and all. ;) |
06:47:25 | elinenbe__ | comment is standard ID3v1 and ID3v2 |
06:47:26 | jzoss | Maybe I'll do synchronized karaoke lyrics while I'm at it. |
06:47:45 | elinenbe__ | many of my tags have pictures embedded. |
06:47:47 | jzoss | Yah, I know. I haven't looked at the text editor much, so I don't know how tricky it'd be to shoehorn into that |
06:47:48 | elinenbe__ | howeve rthey are jpegs |
06:48:02 | elinenbe__ | now, there is already code in rockbox for bmps. |
06:48:11 | elinenbe__ | that would not be too hard. |
06:48:18 | elinenbe__ | any value over 128 goes black |
06:48:21 | jzoss | Heh. So you say.... |
06:48:28 | elinenbe__ | any value under goes white. |
06:48:34 | elinenbe__ | well, easy on paper. :) |
06:48:35 | jzoss | Parsing the bmp data from ID3v2 is non-trivial |
06:49:15 | elinenbe__ | the problem is a picutre embedded in a ID3v2 tag can be a bmp, jpg, gif (maybe?) |
06:49:31 | jzoss | yah, I forget what the spec says |
06:49:31 | elinenbe__ | displaying a jpg would be a hell of a lot harder. |
06:49:44 | elinenbe__ | the specs go on for years for ID3v2.3 |
06:49:52 | elinenbe__ | you can include channel aplification. |
06:50:43 | elinenbe__ | I am looking at ID3.org and ID3v2 4.0 was just released |
06:51:04 | jzoss | yah. The specs are @ rockbox.haxx.se/docs |
06:51:16 | elinenbe__ | the specs go on for years |
06:51:21 | jzoss | I write id3v2.3, because the year-tag is more sensable. |
06:51:26 | elinenbe__ | 4.3.1 WOAF Official audio file webpage |
06:51:26 | elinenbe__ | 4.3.1 WOAR Official artist/performer webpage |
06:51:26 | elinenbe__ | 4.3.1 WOAS Official audio source webpage |
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06:51:26 | elinenbe__ | 4.3.1 WORS Official Internet radio station homepage |
06:51:30 | elinenbe__ | !!!!!!!! |
06:51:40 | jzoss | id3v2.4 uses full timestamp. id3v2.3 uses plain-ol-year. |
06:51:48 | elinenbe__ | 4.2.2 TOPE Original artist(s)/performer(s) |
06:51:48 | elinenbe__ | 4.2.4 TOWN File owner/licensee |
06:51:48 | elinenbe__ | 4.2.2 TPE1 Lead performer(s)/Soloist(s) |
06:51:48 | elinenbe__ | 4.2.2 TPE2 Band/orchestra/accompaniment |
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06:51:48 | elinenbe__ | 4.2.2 TPE3 Conductor/performer refinement |
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06:51:48 | elinenbe__ | 4.2.2 TPE4 Interpreted, remixed, or otherwise modified by |
06:51:50 | elinenbe__ | !!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
06:52:03 | elinenbe__ | too much −− it is complete, but 99.99% of the stuff will NEVER be used. |
06:52:04 | jzoss | Yup. But we use TPE1: artist. =) |
06:52:14 | elinenbe__ | yeah. |
06:52:23 | elinenbe__ | that was not meant to be copy pasted! |
06:52:46 | jzoss | what's up with the suffixed "_"s on your name? They're growing. lol |
06:53:05 | elinenbe__ | it keeps saying elinenbe is in use? |
06:53:08 | elinenbe__ | who knows. |
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06:53:11 | jzoss | hmmm.. odd |
06:53:13 | elinenbe_ | there! |
06:53:14 | elinenbe_ | :) |
06:53:20 | jzoss | one down, one to go. ;) |
06:53:23 | jzoss | j/k |
06:53:26 | elinenbe_ | I can't use elinenbe though? I don't know why. |
06:53:53 | elinenbe_ | my internet has been shady the past few days −− it goes down for about 1 minute every 1:45 −− it is quite a pain in the ass. |
06:54:08 | elinenbe_ | I don't know if it is the router or the cable modem, but it is annyoning. |
06:54:19 | elinenbe_ | well, the patch is looking very nice. |
06:54:33 | jzoss | yuck. I upgraded my dhcp-client under linux (accidently...dang dselect) and broke my internet for a while. It'd go down every minute. =) |
06:54:35 | elinenbe_ | I can't wait to see what else you come up with. =) |
06:54:47 | jzoss | I reverted to the old version and now it's doin a little better. heh |
06:54:53 | elinenbe_ | I'm on windows here. |
06:54:56 | elinenbe_ | cygwin |
06:55:02 | elinenbe_ | my laptop is windows. |
06:55:08 | elinenbe_ | my desktop is linux. |
06:55:13 | jzoss | Yah, I couldn't get cygwin's sh1 compiler to work, so I'm doin this development under linux |
06:55:18 | jzoss | I usually run windows |
06:55:34 | elinenbe_ | okay −− I am heading to bed. It is 5:56 am here. |
06:55:41 | jzoss | !!!!!!!!!!! |
06:55:44 | elinenbe_ | I mean 12:57 −− I'm in NYC |
06:55:48 | elinenbe_ | ! =) |
06:55:49 | jzoss | Whew. |
06:55:53 | elinenbe_ | ha. |
06:55:56 | jzoss | I'm in TX. |
06:56:00 | jzoss | So I'm sleeping soon, too. |
06:56:07 | elinenbe_ | hopefully not San Antonio! |
06:56:10 | jzoss | yup |
06:56:15 | jzoss | satx.rr.com |
06:56:22 | jzoss | why not San Antonio? |
06:56:50 | elinenbe_ | I am just kidding. I knew that −− I saw the log from Lyeasterday on the site. |
06:56:56 | jzoss | heh. dork. |
06:57:06 | elinenbe_ | yeah. |
06:57:09 | jzoss | Talk to ya tomorrow. Good ideas on the patch. Thanks for your help |
06:57:17 | elinenbe_ | well, remember to attach the pach again. |
06:57:22 | elinenbe_ | and tell sourceforge not to lose it. |
06:57:24 | elinenbe_ | later. |
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09:22:54 | TBoy | hoi |
09:23:43 | Bagder | hi |
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09:40:28 | dwihno | http://distribution.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?msgId=581265&listName=dev - the world has gone extra mongo today ;) |
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10:00:13 | TBoy | alittle bit more mongo has never hurt any1 :D |
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10:25:18 | Bagder | rockbox on Neo would rock |
10:25:28 | Bagder | even more |
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10:27:38 | quelsaruk | morning to all |
10:27:48 | Bagder | hi quelsaruk |
10:29:58 | Zagor | yeah, it would be cool to have rockbox on a non-archos |
10:31:17 | Bagder | it would be a major step in the project |
10:32:13 | quelsaruk | what kind of non-archos? |
10:33:20 | Bagder | "I'm trying to port Rockbox to another very similar player, the NEO Jukebox" |
10:33:29 | Bagder | Josh Nisly posted on the list |
10:34:03 | quelsaruk | ahhh |
10:34:11 | quelsaruk | i haven't read mails today :) |
10:43:40 | TBoy | yep that would be kwl |
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11:20:39 | tracktheripper | morning |
11:21:41 | Bagder | hi |
11:21:57 | tracktheripper | Hi Badger |
11:21:59 | tracktheripper | how r u? |
11:23:00 | Bagder | sufficiently loaded with things to do |
11:23:05 | tracktheripper | yea |
11:23:25 | tracktheripper | Badger can the Archos write .txt files as well as read them? |
11:23:34 | Bagder | the Archos? |
11:23:35 | tracktheripper | ive seen a couple of requests with reference to that |
11:23:38 | tracktheripper | yea |
11:23:52 | Bagder | I don't understand your question |
11:23:56 | quelsaruk | he want to say "rockbox" |
11:24:09 | quelsaruk | can rockbox write text files? |
11:24:12 | tracktheripper | you know .txt files written in Notepad? The Archos can read them |
11:24:13 | Bagder | yes, we have support for writing files |
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11:24:29 | * | quelsaruk using tracktheripper−−> english translator |
11:24:42 | quelsaruk | i'm using a "tracktheripper−−> english" translator ;) |
11:24:54 | quelsaruk | made by miself |
11:24:57 | tracktheripper | Quelsaruk, shut up :-) |
11:25:02 | quelsaruk | myself |
11:25:52 | tracktheripper | I mean Badger, just wondered if something basic like a shopping list or address be typed on the Archos and saved as .txt file |
11:25:59 | tracktheripper | saves running Notepad |
11:26:26 | Bagder | we have no notepad app, no |
11:26:33 | Bagder | feel free to write one |
11:26:46 | tracktheripper | if I could program I would, but I only learnt BASIC |
11:27:04 | Bagder | ah, that's close enough to C ;-) |
11:27:09 | tracktheripper | :-P |
11:27:27 | tracktheripper | I could program my old Amstrad to draw a circle and colour it red :-) |
11:28:41 | tracktheripper | Im off to make a cup of tea who would like one? Badger, Quelsaruk, Zagor? |
11:28:57 | Bagder | no thanks, soon time for lunch here |
11:29:04 | tracktheripper | ok ;-) |
11:29:08 | quelsaruk | well it's coffee time here |
11:29:13 | quelsaruk | i want one... |
11:29:18 | tracktheripper | well I'll make u a coffee then |
11:29:19 | tracktheripper | :-) |
11:29:23 | tracktheripper | be right back :-) |
11:29:31 | quelsaruk | i'm not one of *those* strange swedish people |
11:29:35 | tracktheripper | <−−- Stepped out to the coffee machine |
11:29:36 | tracktheripper | lol |
11:29:42 | quelsaruk | ;) |
11:32:20 | tracktheripper | back |
11:32:24 | tracktheripper | there u go Quel |
11:32:46 | quelsaruk | thx :) |
11:33:16 | tracktheripper | What do u think of Screen Invert now its implemented? |
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11:36:58 | tracktheripper | ((gives quel|coffee a slap :-) )) |
11:39:49 | tracktheripper | lol |
11:42:04 | tracktheripper | Any possible future additions to Rockbox? |
11:44:31 | Bagder | any possible? |
11:44:39 | Bagder | yes |
11:44:50 | Bagder | about one bazillion features are possible |
11:45:17 | tracktheripper | ok ok calm down Bagder! was only a civil question! |
11:45:19 | tracktheripper | :-) |
11:45:35 | * | Bagder is calm as a cold fish |
11:46:19 | tracktheripper | ;-) |
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12:09:39 | quelsaruk | i'm back |
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12:35:08 | quelsaruk | re-hi |
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13:39:02 | hoemma | what is there left that linus wants to rewrite before V2.0? |
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13:40:36 | Bagder | he has a mpeg thread rewrite pending |
13:41:16 | hoemma | what for? Clean up? |
13:41:31 | Bagder | for functionality |
13:42:07 | Bagder | vbri support, better recorder and proper dynamic watermark stuff |
13:42:31 | hoemma | ah. |
13:42:45 | * | hoemma searches for webmaster |
13:42:50 | hoemma | (webmaster, could you pleas register this unregistered jIRC applet?) :) |
13:43:31 | Bagder | you're using a java applet on a web site |
13:43:46 | hoemma | I know. Just kidding. |
13:44:11 | * | Bagder can't recognize jokes |
13:44:14 | hoemma | With each line I send I'm told to ask webmaster. |
13:44:21 | Bagder | ugh |
13:44:34 | Bagder | so get a proper client instead |
13:44:50 | hoemma | Yes, that's the way to go |
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14:43:31 | dwihno | Zagor: To quote you: |
14:43:32 | dwihno | Hey, we could even stop saving config data in the hidden sector and only save |
14:43:32 | dwihno | in nicely written and readable .cfg files... |
14:43:42 | dwihno | I agree fully |
14:43:46 | dwihno | It's a nicer idea |
14:43:54 | Zagor | actually, that was bagder :-) |
14:43:57 | * | dwihno thinks about the brightness issue, for instance |
14:44:00 | dwihno | Was it? |
14:44:11 | Zagor | how will that affect brightness? |
14:44:16 | dwihno | Zag, Bag, shit same, different (first) name ;) |
14:44:27 | dwihno | Let's say you get pitch black |
14:44:27 | langhaarrocker | doesn't make the idea less nice. |
14:44:30 | dwihno | You connect it to your computer |
14:44:42 | dwihno | You change the brightness to 30 |
14:44:44 | dwihno | you disconnect |
14:45:06 | dwihno | Perhaps easier than remembering the "up-down-left-up-up-down-bounce" button combination |
14:45:20 | dwihno | Well, you catch my drift |
14:45:31 | dwihno | I think keeping the settings in a .cfg is much better |
14:46:02 | Bagder | surprise surprise, so do I ;-) |
14:46:16 | dwihno | Hey, we actually agree on something! ;D |
14:46:21 | Bagder | I've been meaning to write that code for a month or so |
14:46:32 | dwihno | How about that inverted cursor now? ;) |
14:46:46 | Zagor | dwihno: do you have the patch ready? |
14:53:15 | dwihno | Zagor: Hehu! ;D |
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15:10:03 | TBoy|zzz | is it possible to recieve am with the fm recorder |
15:10:16 | Zagor | TBoy|zzz: maybe |
15:10:51 | TBoy|zzz | ok just wanted to ask |
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15:21:05 | dwihno | Is it possible to receive space alien signals? |
15:21:14 | dwihno | And use the SH-1 to decode SETI stuff? :) |
15:21:34 | Zagor | sure it is! |
15:21:59 | TBoy | yeah we have to implement that |
15:22:22 | TBoy | can we also make it make donuts and coffee |
15:22:48 | TBoy | than I would use it as a portable breakfast mashine |
15:23:31 | dwihno | :D |
15:23:32 | langhaarrocker | I think we should patch the fm recorder into an fm transmitter. There should be _good_ music everywhere. |
15:24:40 | TBoy | yep that would be cool but would require hardware mod if I'm right |
15:26:04 | langhaarrocker | Maybe the MAS specs would be sufficiant. I was so surprized about this all-in-one chip when I read the specs that it wouldn't surprise me if it could transmit fm, too. |
15:26:43 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: the MAS? what was surprising? |
15:26:59 | TBoy | hey langhaarrocker ich geh' mal davon aus das du deutsch kannst |
15:27:00 | dwihno | Dal-MAS (probably the GUNDE instruction set) ;) |
15:28:10 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: All the things it can do. With dc/dc converters, and headphone amplifier, eq filters, da/ad. We use it now every day and still I think it is a technical miracle. |
15:28:10 | langhaarrocker | TBoy: jau |
15:28:33 | * | TBoy gefällt das |
15:29:15 | dwihno | Sie mussen niemals vergessen, das diesen channel englisch ist ;D |
15:29:37 | * | TBoy denkt aber das wir eine für alle verständliche sprache benutzen mussen |
15:29:59 | langhaarrocker | doesn't seem to be that important when I see you type german. |
15:30:07 | TBoy | hehehe |
15:30:12 | TBoy | just fun |
15:30:19 | TBoy | I'M an american myself |
15:31:43 | langhaarrocker | Here in germany we tend to think: "Amerikaner sind köstlich!" |
15:32:32 | TBoy | yep I think they are köstlich, especially me |
15:33:44 | langhaarrocker | ?! Does that mean you're made from pastry and iced with sugar? :) |
15:34:02 | TBoy | yep thats me, |
15:34:05 | TBoy | :D |
15:35:07 | * | TBoy takes a bit of himself and serves his family and friends |
15:35:13 | langhaarrocker | How old are you? Are you still fresh? :) |
15:37:29 | TBoy | yep a fresh prince, but has let some female germans test |
15:37:48 | TBoy | ok this is getting out of hands so lets start talkin about rockbox |
15:40:25 | TBoy | hey zag, bag would you guys say somthing in swedish to see if I would understand it since I can talk Icelandic |
15:40:41 | TBoy | just for fun since nothin' is happening here anyway |
15:42:19 | Zagor | jag tror inte du förstår vad jag säger |
15:42:46 | TBoy | i dont believe that you can understand what I am saying |
15:42:50 | TBoy | is that right |
15:42:51 | Zagor | wooo, nice |
15:42:55 | TBoy | yeah |
15:43:08 | Zagor | how come you understand icelandic? are you from there? |
15:43:27 | TBoy | well yep half ice, half can |
15:43:46 | langhaarrocker | ice-can? can of ice? |
15:43:47 | TBoy | I lived there for 12 years |
15:43:57 | TBoy | no icelandic - american |
15:44:42 | TBoy | it was just a joke |
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15:44:55 | TBoy | ice landic - ameri can |
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15:44:57 | TBoy | get it |
15:44:59 | Zagor | i've been there for like 24hrs once. :-) |
15:45:20 | langhaarrocker | 24 hours day or 24 hours night? :) |
15:45:24 | TBoy | were you flying to or from america |
15:45:25 | TBoy | yep |
15:45:38 | TBoy | but only in the summer |
15:45:51 | TBoy | or why did you stay there |
15:46:17 | Zagor | TBoy: yeah. i think it was on the way home. i extended the layover a bit and did a tour around the place. |
15:46:49 | TBoy | ohh yep I wish I would still be there, since I moved to germany 1998 |
15:48:25 | TBoy | well what do you think or what is the Mas capable to do |
15:49:04 | langhaarrocker | wouldn't surprise me if it transmitted fm, too. :) |
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15:55:03 | langhaarrocker | När jag inte lika käx få, då bita jag inne om matta! |
15:55:03 | langhaarrocker | Does that make any sense? |
15:55:23 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: only very little :-) |
15:56:05 | langhaarrocker | :( |
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16:00:09 | bu88a1 | Will have a spare 6GB drive after thur. upgrading to 40GB..... donate to rockbox? who? |
16:04:30 | langhaarrocker | nah, keep the 6GB and donate the 40GB :) |
16:05:43 | Zagor | bu88a1: thanks for the thought, but we've got disks enough |
16:06:15 | bu88a1 | ok |
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16:09:42 | dwihno | quelsaruk! muy hombre ;D |
16:10:03 | quelsaruk | that doesn't sound too good ;) |
16:10:16 | dwihno | haha |
16:10:23 | TBoy | hehe |
16:10:28 | dwihno | I just thought it might sound a bit funky ;) |
16:11:17 | quelsaruk | i think it has a meaning that differs from what you wanted to say :) |
16:11:53 | * | langhaarrocker smells goats |
16:12:01 | quelsaruk | i cleaned the stable!! |
16:12:23 | langhaarrocker | :) |
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16:31:21 | Zagor | anyone a css guru here? |
16:31:57 | * | langhaarrocker is no guru but wants to know where to buy a sitar |
16:33:16 | dwihno | Zagor: what you wanna' do? |
16:34:19 | Zagor | dwihno: find out why the heck the two column <div>s don't work ok on this page: http://byta.haxx.se/newdesign/index.html |
16:35:03 | Zagor | in opera6, the page gets wider than the screen. in msie5, they're displayed on top of each other! |
16:35:54 | Zagor | opera7 gets them on top of each other too, so I'm doing something wrong |
16:36:53 | quelsaruk | Zagor: in ie6 it looks good |
16:37:05 | quelsaruk | if that helps you :) |
16:37:20 | Zagor | are "idén" and "vanliga frågor" two columns beside each other? |
16:38:13 | quelsaruk | no, iden is up and vanliga is below iden |
16:38:19 | quelsaruk | should it be the other way? |
16:38:30 | Zagor | they should be in a left and a right column |
16:38:33 | quelsaruk | umm |
16:38:41 | quelsaruk | imho it looks good as it is now |
16:38:43 | quelsaruk | :) |
16:38:51 | Zagor | wrong answer :-) |
16:40:01 | quelsaruk | anyway.. it looks better than in opera7 |
16:40:06 | quelsaruk | :) |
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16:44:40 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: have you tried to set the widths to 50% instead of auto? |
16:44:59 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: the auto was just a test. I don't want enforced width at all. |
16:45:45 | quelsaruk | well.. trying 50% will give you another point of reference |
16:45:48 | quelsaruk | :) |
16:45:56 | Zagor | :-) |
16:46:22 | quelsaruk | when everything seems to be ok and it doesn't work, you must try weird or nonsense things |
16:46:56 | langhaarrocker | For me it usually is try - error -try -error -give up |
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16:47:20 | dwihno | Zagor: you are young grasshopper |
16:47:32 | quelsaruk | langhaarrocker: me too ;) |
16:47:47 | quelsaruk | but i try again 2 days later |
16:48:03 | langhaarrocker | I'd have thought you sacrifice some goats in between. |
16:48:21 | quelsaruk | of course |
16:48:27 | quelsaruk | but that's my secret |
16:48:30 | quelsaruk | or was.. |
16:49:21 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: Why do you avoid tables to get 2-column text? |
16:50:05 | Zagor | to get a better display with non-css browser |
16:50:28 | dwihno | are there such stuff nowadays? ;) |
16:51:37 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: like if it doesn't css you have things vertically instead of horizontally? |
16:51:53 | Zagor | yes |
16:52:04 | Zagor | think pda browsers etc. |
16:52:13 | langhaarrocker | hrgh |
16:52:33 | dwihno | Zagor: how many % of your visitors are using such browsers? 0.003%? :) |
16:52:35 | langhaarrocker | quelsaruk: how does zagors page look on the s55? |
16:52:57 | Zagor | dwihno: that's not the point. i want to do it right. |
16:53:49 | quelsaruk | langhaarrocker: really good ;) but still one above the other |
16:54:19 | quelsaruk | Zagor is being as "cabezon" as always ;) |
16:54:34 | Zagor | cabezon? |
16:54:47 | dwihno | like calzone, but with tortillas ;) |
16:55:37 | quelsaruk | a cabezon is a person that has a point of view and never says: "ok, you were right... " |
16:57:56 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: if you want to do the html really right I think you should use ä instead of ä... :) |
16:58:56 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: not necessary, since I send content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 |
16:59:23 | * | langhaarrocker learned something new |
16:59:24 | Zagor | quelsaruk: actually I take pride in admitting mistakes. I just don't want to settle for a non-optimal solution without good reason |
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17:06:29 | quelsaruk | Zagor: i was just kidding, i'm a really cabezota man :) |
17:06:51 | bu88a1 | Help CVS anonymous login password = ?? |
17:07:00 | Zagor | bu88a1: nothing. just press return |
17:07:42 | bu88a1 | I get "cvs [login aborted]: connect to cvs.rockbox.sourceforge.net:2401 failed: Connect" |
17:08:09 | langhaarrocker | cvs is flaky sometimes. retry. |
17:08:20 | bu88a1 | ok thanks |
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17:31:16 | Zagor | seems I have to use a fixed % width. oh well. |
17:31:23 | Zagor | gotta go. see you guys! |
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17:37:05 | bu88a1 | Help !! w/cvs checkout - 2401 failed: Connection refused |
17:38:13 | quelsaruk | ummm |
17:38:16 | quelsaruk | extrange |
17:39:14 | quelsaruk | cvs server seems to be on-line (at least for me) |
17:39:25 | quelsaruk | are you sure you have logged in correctly? |
17:39:45 | bu88a1 | anonymous- password <blank> |
17:40:13 | langhaarrocker | I don't have cvs connection right now |
17:40:44 | quelsaruk | that should work |
17:41:39 | bu88a1 | any firewall issues maybe?? |
17:41:39 | langhaarrocker | now it works again for me. -> shaky |
17:42:25 | quelsaruk | maybe |
17:42:27 | quelsaruk | i dunno |
17:42:55 | bu88a1 | Connection refused net 2401: 2401 = port # ??? |
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17:46:13 | quelsaruk | umm |
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17:46:17 | langhaarrocker | ,992401 is the standard cvs port. It may be that your firewall blocks it.,99 |
17:46:26 | langhaarrocker | oh, he's offline. |
17:46:31 | quelsaruk | ;) |
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19:58:27 | Kamayaka | heya |
19:58:53 | langhaarrocker | zzzzzzzzzz |
19:59:43 | quelsaruk | langhaarrocker: dou you want a goat to play with, this way you will not get asleep ;) |
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20:00:30 | langhaarrocker | I'd prefer to play with something that gets angry if I called her goat .... |
20:01:20 | quelsaruk | a S55? |
20:01:51 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
20:01:51 | * | langhaarrocker shouts "goat" at my mobile phone |
20:02:01 | langhaarrocker | Nope. Doesn't get angry. |
20:03:59 | quelsaruk | mine does |
20:04:35 | langhaarrocker | maybe you shouldn't use that word for voice-dialling your girlfriend. :) |
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20:07:49 | quelsaruk | haha |
20:09:07 | quelsaruk | i'm getting crazy today |
20:09:40 | quelsaruk | linux is meant to be free, at least that was the original idea, why can't you get suse distro for free?? |
20:10:57 | langhaarrocker | I need a professional multitrack program as motivation to look at linux again. |
20:11:09 | PsycoXul | langhaarrocker: ardour |
20:11:22 | adi|work | quelsaruk: its simple... |
20:11:25 | langhaarrocker | looks promising but not ripe yet |
20:11:31 | adi|work | you are paying for the media it is getting sent to you on. |
20:11:34 | PsycoXul | langhaarrocker: yeah i think you're probably right |
20:11:41 | adi|work | im fairly sure you can still download iso's for free |
20:11:46 | PsycoXul | last time i tried it it crashed a lot |
20:11:57 | PsycoXul | butt it wasn't a big problem since it didn't lose much/anything when it crashed |
20:12:33 | langhaarrocker | I want something that challenges Logic Audio or Pro Tools :) |
20:17:33 | langhaarrocker | Oh: I'm mixing things up. I looked at audacity (http://sourceforge.net/projects/audacity/) |
20:17:33 | langhaarrocker | Ardour is the next proggie to try. |
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20:25:13 | PsycoXul | ah |
20:25:22 | PsycoXul | i don't think i've tried audacity at least for a while |
20:28:01 | langhaarrocker | PsycoXul: Which multitrack software do you use? |
20:31:26 | PsycoXul | i haven't used much |
20:31:31 | PsycoXul | i've done like 1 thing |
20:31:38 | PsycoXul | and i used ecasound and tkeca for that |
20:31:46 | PsycoXul | tkeca doesn't do envelopes though |
20:31:56 | PsycoXul | but i couldn't figure out how to make ardour do envelopes either, though i know it can |
20:33:32 | langhaarrocker | audacity can - but I found only volume curves. I want to have curves for pan, fx-parameters - everything. |
20:33:45 | PsycoXul | http://psyco.yi.org:8042/hahaha2r.mp3 |
20:33:51 | PsycoXul | if you wanna hear the 1 thing i did |
20:33:59 | PsycoXul | langhaarrocker: yeah i mainly want panning envelopes |
20:34:10 | PsycoXul | fx parameters would be nice too |
20:34:20 | * | langhaarrocker is downloading |
20:34:31 | PsycoXul | be warned, it's odd :p |
20:35:29 | langhaarrocker | have a look at http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/14/xphobie.html if you're interested at our stuff... |
20:36:01 | PsycoXul | goddamnit... i think my soundcard's dying or something |
20:36:14 | PsycoXul | it keeps having problems not playing through the right channel |
20:36:21 | PsycoXul | first with mono now it's doing it with stereo stuff too |
20:36:22 | langhaarrocker | But not from our music I hope :) |
20:36:44 | Kamayaka | psyo... check the plug if it really fits in tight |
20:37:24 | langhaarrocker | PsycoXul: do I have to reverse the song manually? :) |
20:37:45 | PsycoXul | it's not the plug heh |
20:37:56 | PsycoXul | if i mess around with the mixer it sorta fixes it |
20:38:16 | PsycoXul | langhaarrocker: heh |
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20:38:23 | PsycoXul | langhaarrocker: i made it to be the reversed of what that is |
20:38:28 | PsycoXul | langhaarrocker: but it ended up sounding better backwards |
20:38:31 | PsycoXul | langhaarrocker: heh |
20:38:42 | PsycoXul | langhaarrocker: so what that is sounds better i think |
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20:39:49 | bu88a1 | earlier problem w/connection refused 2401 was our firewall... |
20:39:51 | langhaarrocker | our vocalist always makes me play her voice backwards for inspiration purposes |
20:40:11 | PsycoXul | heh |
20:40:31 | langhaarrocker | bu88a1: are you getting through now? |
20:41:14 | PsycoXul | grr i was gonna try to see if the kernel drivers instead of alsa worked any better |
20:41:20 | PsycoXul | and it won't even load at all any more |
20:41:34 | PsycoXul | it makes a clicking sound when i try to modprobe it |
20:41:36 | PsycoXul | but says |
20:41:37 | PsycoXul | /lib/modules/2.4.18-xfs/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o: init_module: No such device |
20:41:40 | PsycoXul | Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters |
20:42:09 | bu88a1 | I'm still waiting on IT to turn on the switch |
20:45:00 | PsycoXul | god i wish aureal vortex would somehow get supported |
20:45:07 | PsycoXul | then i'd just throw that unused turtle beach montego in here |
20:45:38 | langhaarrocker | I still have an ancient turtle beach tropez around somewhere :) |
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21:15:32 | Kamayaka | my last 8mb cvs release was broken (i noticed after listening to it, first i only looked if it worked itself) music stops after 2-3 seconds. recorder goes on as if nothing has happend... |
21:15:56 | Kamayaka | anybody having a actual working cvs release for the 8mb mod, my last working is from beginning of februar |
21:16:26 | quelsaruk | i can build one for you if you want |
21:16:43 | quelsaruk | but i dunno if it works or not |
21:16:45 | quelsaruk | :) |
21:16:53 | quelsaruk | i don't have the 8mb mod |
21:18:47 | quelsaruk | time to go home! |
21:18:50 | quelsaruk | cu tomorrow |
21:19:42 | Kamayaka | shiet |
21:19:49 | Kamayaka | haning on the phone :\ |
21:19:56 | quelsaruk | ¿? |
21:20:09 | Kamayaka | can you build me one right now ? :) |
21:20:13 | quelsaruk | jups |
21:20:25 | * | Kamayaka hugs quelsaruk |
21:20:57 | quelsaruk | recorder? |
21:21:04 | Kamayaka | jupp |
21:21:08 | quelsaruk | with or without games and demos? |
21:21:09 | Kamayaka | not the fm one |
21:21:15 | Kamayaka | everything (8mb:)) |
21:21:24 | quelsaruk | english language? |
21:21:31 | Kamayaka | german |
21:21:46 | quelsaruk | i hope german is updated |
21:21:47 | quelsaruk | ;) |
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21:22:18 | Kamayaka | hrhr |
21:22:26 | Kamayaka | dcc ? |
21:23:27 | Kamayaka | quelsaruk from the actual cvs ? |
21:24:40 | quelsaruk | yups |
21:25:14 | Kamayaka | cool :) im going to check that and report tomorrow |
21:25:20 | random1 | Hello.. has anyone noticed distortion at high volumes on the recent daily builds? My previous daily (~3 wks old) sounded great but I'm hearing distortion on yesterday's build on my FM rec. |
21:25:42 | quelsaruk | get the dcc pliz |
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21:26:04 | Kamayaka | go on |
21:26:19 | Kamayaka | mirc reenabled file rejection |
21:26:46 | quelsaruk | ok |
21:26:47 | quelsaruk | :) |
21:26:59 | Kamayaka | thanx (needa go drinking some beer :)) |
21:27:18 | quelsaruk | i'm going to have one right now ;) |
21:27:26 | quelsaruk | that's why i'm leaving :P |
21:27:53 | quelsaruk | ok |
21:27:57 | quelsaruk | cu another day! |
21:27:59 | quelsaruk | bye! |
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22:01:07 | Triple-z | hey |
22:01:33 | adi|work | howdy |
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22:17:15 | adi|work | hey zagor |
22:17:49 | random1 | anyone noticing audio distortion at high volumes on recent nightlies? |
22:18:33 | Zagor | hi |
22:18:44 | Zagor | random1: can't say I have |
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22:21:32 | adi|work | what is the deal with labb.contactor.se replicating messages? |
22:21:57 | adi|work | or is it just that im on the sourceforge mailing list |
22:22:05 | adi|work | and labb.contactor.se is the rockbox mirror? |
22:22:13 | adi|work | yup.. nm.. thats it |
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22:27:21 | adi|work | okay.. how the hell do i turn off sourceforge sending me this damn mail... |
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22:31:13 | Zagor | adi|work: unsubscribe from the rockbox-sf list |
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22:35:28 | Bagder | all those Qs for where the FM option is are amusing |
22:37:33 | bronson | Hi, guys. I'm running the daily build from a few days ago on my Recorder. |
22:37:36 | bronson | It's beautiful!!!! |
22:37:42 | bronson | However, there's one feature I miss... |
22:37:47 | bronson | How do I delete files? |
22:37:57 | Bagder | ON+PLAY |
22:38:07 | bronson | I tried that. |
22:38:11 | bronson | It's not working for me...? |
22:38:25 | Bagder | what happened? |
22:39:24 | bronson | Nothing. It just ignores me |
22:39:35 | bronson | Actually, I think I know what's happening... |
22:39:35 | Bagder | when in the dir browser? |
22:39:41 | bronson | yep |
22:40:01 | bronson | I'm running that other guy's build right now... Whasshizname... |
22:40:21 | bronson | So, it's the daily build plus all his patches. |
22:40:29 | bronson | He might have somehow disabled delete. |
22:40:43 | Bagder | you should try a "clean" daily-build first |
22:42:41 | bronson | Agreed. I'll give that a whirl. |
22:42:43 | bronson | Thanks! |
22:43:24 | Bagder | no problems |
22:46:27 | bronson | Joaquim Carvalho is the guy's name. :) |
22:46:49 | Bagder | well, he likes to move around the keys so it doesn't surprise me |
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23:13:01 | bronson | OK, I downloaded the latest daily build and it works. |
23:13:11 | bronson | So, yep, that was it. |
23:13:20 | bronson | I forgot that I was running his software. :) |
23:13:20 | Bagder | ok |
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23:16:46 | Bagder | Zagor: imho, we should reconsider the 2.0 release plans again |
23:17:30 | Zagor | in what aspect? |
23:17:44 | Bagder | to push harder to get it out the door |
23:18:03 | Zagor | yeah. well recording is useless until Linus' code is ready. |
23:18:28 | Zagor | ok, not exactly useless but embarassinly poor |
23:18:37 | Bagder | ok |
23:18:43 | Bagder | I wasn't aware it was that bad |
23:19:10 | Zagor | we can't handle our own recordings properly. it's not very nice. |
23:19:18 | Zagor | time display is all wrogs |
23:19:18 | Zagor | wrong |
23:21:14 | bronson | Quick question... Does the .rockbox directory contain anything that an English-speaking, default-font-and-WPS-using Rockbox listener would need? |
23:21:27 | Zagor | bronson: no |
23:21:33 | bronson | Thanks. ;) |
23:21:40 | Bagder | uh |
23:21:47 | Bagder | it might if you use the queuing |
23:21:52 | Zagor | ah, right |
23:21:57 | Bagder | or rather, queueing might fail otherwise |
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23:24:08 | JorisH | anyone here? |
23:24:14 | Bagder | several |
23:24:22 | JorisH | oh, just playing dead |
23:24:31 | Bagder | yeah |
23:24:53 | Bagder | development actually suffers from being active on IRC ;-) |
23:25:17 | JorisH | Ah, but my question is: what's a good to guide to C programming |
23:26:09 | JorisH | I speak several languages, including different assemblers, but never had to start with C |
23:26:22 | Bagder | http://dmoz.org/Computers/Programming/Languages/C/Tutorials/ |
23:26:41 | Bagder | I personally can't mention any specific |
23:26:45 | JorisH | checking.... |
23:27:34 | JorisH | by the looks of it, it's a good place to start. Thanks. |
23:27:59 | Bagder | good luck! |
23:28:29 | Bagder | "Thou shalt not follow the NULL pointer, for chaos and madness await thee at its end." |
23:28:52 | JorisH | I've come across those, yeah. LOL! |
23:29:41 | JorisH | BTW, don't be surprised if I will actually start contributing to Rockbox |
23:29:56 | Bagder | you'll be very welcome |
23:30:07 | JorisH | I no one picks it up, I'll be looking into the MDB feature |
23:30:14 | JorisH | I = If |
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23:30:35 | Bagder | that idea has been idling for quite a while |
23:31:11 | JorisH | no sh*t! I couldn't find anything about it |
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23:35:47 | Bagder | 41 pages!! |
23:35:57 | Bagder | (Alexandre's docs) |
23:36:20 | JorisH | Obviously I didn't look hard enough |
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23:38:17 | Norrin | Is there a way to edit the RSTATION.BIN on the computer versus manually adding each station via the FM Recorder? Thanks in advance. |
23:38:35 | Bagder | JorisH: there was a guy months about that started working on it and we discussed it on IRC etc |
23:38:52 | Bagder | Norrin: that's not rockbox ;-) |
23:39:01 | Zagor | Norrin: that's an archos issue. we don't support the radio yet (and know very little about the archos firmware functions) |
23:39:58 | Bagder | and no, we would never use such a hideous format |
23:40:13 | Zagor | "I'm still writing the documentation (41 pages right now :) )" |
23:40:17 | Zagor | yikes! |
23:40:23 | Bagder | yeah |
23:40:32 | Zagor | I hope it's good :-) |
23:40:32 | Bagder | amazing |
23:40:43 | Norrin | Okay, thanks. I use the Rockbox firmware on it, easier to read and manipulate. You would of though a simple txt file would have worked. |
23:40:44 | Bagder | it'll get quite a number of eyes |
23:40:55 | JorisH | Bagder: where can I find Alexandre's docs? |
23:41:04 | Zagor | JorisH: he hasn't published it yet |
23:41:15 | Bagder | "I will soon have something I could show without being ashamed :)" |
23:41:19 | Bagder | he said |
23:41:33 | JorisH | I see. Not really "open source" is it? ;-) |
23:41:49 | Bagder | it'll be |
23:41:59 | Bagder | everything is hidden until shown the first time |
23:42:17 | JorisH | Really ;-) |
23:42:40 | * | Bagder likes stating the obvious |
23:42:59 | JorisH | Then we have something in common! |
23:43:10 | JorisH | Hacker humor... |
23:48:34 | * | Bagder commits |
23:49:23 | * | JorisH can't follow |
23:49:32 | Bagder | to CVS |
23:49:40 | JorisH | ah |