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#rockbox log for 2003-03-06

00:00:08Bagderhi
00:00:18Bagderyou boxrocker
00:00:32*TBoy giggles
00:00:55TBoyjust tryin out the irc client on trillie
00:01:41TBoyanything new or cool happened
00:02:28*Bagder knows nothing new
00:02:46TBoywell
00:03:19TBoywill we be seeing some inside pictures of the FM
00:03:58TBoyfrom Linus that is
00:04:13Bagderhe said he'd take photos of it
00:04:33TBoywas that a question or a statement
00:04:47*TBoy is curious
00:04:52Bagderthat's a statement, he told me he'd do it
00:04:57TBoyok good
00:05:35TBoyso how far is v2.0
00:06:12Bagderbeyond the corner
00:07:26TBoyhow fast are you traveling, how long will it take you guys,approximatly, to get around the corner
00:07:40BagderI won't guess
00:08:42TBoyok well
00:08:50MT2.0 is sort of here in the cvs builds ..
00:08:57MTenjoy that for the time being
00:09:02TBoyI know
00:09:34TBoyI was about to say that
00:10:17Bagderand even the very day we release 2.0, the daily will have more features and work better :-)
00:11:03TBoyso has joaquim, cut his build in peaces for you/us
00:11:17Bagdernope
00:11:39Bagderuh
00:11:50Bagdermy status bar is gone in my recorder sim build...
00:12:18*TBoy is gettin tired
00:12:29*Bagder is a sorry person and withdraws his last statement
00:12:55TBoyso I think I'll hit the stables
00:13:00TBoysee ya tomorrow
00:13:17Bagdersee ya
00:13:23TBoyand hopefully I will finally recieve my first archos
00:13:27TBoyyeah
00:13:41bronsonThanks for the help, Badger. Gotta run...
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00:13:55TBoybye
00:13:56 Part TBoy
00:18:11adi|workFAQ updated to be a little more stupid ppl correct
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00:24:27BagderI ran a spell check on it ;-)
00:26:10Bagdersee ya
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01:10:38 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se)
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01:27:59tracktheripperHello
01:28:00tracktheripperall
01:28:06LinusNyo
01:28:11tracktheripperhey Linus
01:28:14tracktheripperhow are ya?
01:28:25LinusNtired
01:28:30tracktheripperawwwwww
01:28:44tracktherippergo to bed then
01:28:46tracktheripper!
01:29:15LinusNdon't feel like it
01:29:21tracktheripperheehee
01:29:51tracktheripperwell get version 2.0 out soon :-)
01:30:10LinusNworking on it
01:30:25tracktheripper:)
01:30:42tracktheripper<−−−− wonderes if there will be a version 3 in the future after version 2
01:31:05LinusNversion 3 usually comes after version 2
01:31:13tracktheripper:)
01:31:44tracktheripperCouldnt the character cells on the Player be Inverted like the entire screen on the Recorder?
01:32:01LinusNas fas as i know, no
01:32:18tracktheripperwell they are dot-matrix, character cells
01:34:00*LinusN reads the data sheets
01:39:19LinusNi can't find anything about lcd invert in those sheets
01:40:58tracktheripperlol just wondered
01:43:40tracktheripperIt must be hard navigating your way round on the Player with that crap LCD
01:45:17LinusNindeed
01:45:46 Join TrueDis_work [0] (~truedis@dhcp-132-177.nac.uci.edu)
01:48:09tracktheripperIts just that all there is, is 2 x lines of 11 character cells that are huge, How the hell do they show ID3 tags?
01:48:28LinusNscrolling
01:48:56tracktheripperyea but there is a limit on the Archos firmware that only allows 32 characters?
01:49:11LinusNi'm talking about rockbox
01:49:17tracktheripperoh right
01:49:20tracktheripperfair enough
01:50:25tracktheripperI wonder what made Archos radically re-design the screen for the Recorder, which is obviously much better being entirely dot-matric
01:50:27tracktherippermatrix
01:51:16LinusNi guess all the reasons you just mentioned
01:51:47tracktheripperhmm posibbily
01:52:10tracktheripperCan Rockbox read .doc files as well as .txt files?
01:52:14LinusNi just created my first recording with Xing-header
01:52:25tracktheripperwhats Xing-header?
01:52:28LinusNtracktheripper: .doc-files? Word-files? Of course not!
01:52:36tracktheripperwhy not?
01:52:52LinusNit's a huge, evil, proprietary format
01:52:58tracktheripperoh ok
01:53:04tracktheripperis .txt just plain ASCII
01:53:13LinusNand why? it's an mp3 player! :-)
01:53:22tracktherippergrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
01:53:23LinusNascii is easy
01:53:23Jet8810lol
01:53:31tracktheripper((gives Linus a slap))
01:53:38LinusNouch
01:53:46tracktheripperheehee :)
01:54:01LinusNxing-header==vbr header
01:54:24tracktheripperohhhhhh
01:54:46tracktheripperWhat about adding individual songs to playlist?
01:55:04LinusNsome day someone might write some code for it
01:55:35tracktheripperlol
01:55:51tracktheripperLinus no-one will let me forget that request I sent last year!!
01:56:25LinusNfm radio on plain recorders?
01:56:33tracktheripperI never sent that!!!
01:57:10Jet8810lol...
01:57:25tracktheripperit was the "Auto Voice Transcribe"
01:57:26tracktheripperheehee
01:57:29LinusNah
01:57:46tracktheripperNo-one lets me forget that
01:58:12LinusNi do, i didn't even remember it myself :-)
01:58:23Jet8810lol
01:58:30tracktheripper:)
01:58:51tracktheripperwell there is a way you can make a playlist of individual songs in Rockbox
01:58:59Jet8810queeing
01:59:04Jet8810queueing rather
01:59:09Jet8810but I wanna save em as playlists :)
01:59:22tracktheripperILL tell you how to do that Jet
01:59:29tracktheripperyou can save as playlist
01:59:45Jet8810how?
01:59:52TrueDis_worki was wondering about the resume in 1.4 and its status in 2.0
02:00
02:00:02LinusNTrueDis_work: what about it?
02:00:05TrueDis_workwhen i resume in 1.4 it usually isn't at exactly the spot where it turned it off
02:00:14LinusNplayer?
02:00:15tracktheripperJet8100 if you queue up some songs then rename the QUEUE_FILE to myplaylist.m3u
02:00:18TrueDis_workit's usually off by a few seconds
02:00:18TrueDis_workyeah, player
02:00:22Jet8810aaah track!
02:00:23Jet8810smart!
02:00:27TrueDis_worki would assume wherever the disk last read
02:00:32LinusNTrueDis_work: pause before you stop
02:00:41LinusNpause, then shut off
02:00:46TrueDis_workthanks :-)
02:00:46tracktheripperthe only drawback is that the playlist is saved in the .rockbox folder
02:00:53Jet8810true
02:00:57Jet8810but
02:01:07Jet8810on your PC you can move it and playlist files will still work right?
02:01:12tracktheripperyea
02:01:17LinusNTrueDis_work: remember to let the drive spin up and save the position before you turn off
02:01:32tracktheripperor you can boot ino the Archos firmware, make the playlist there then come back to Rockbox
02:02:01TrueDis_workok, so pausing saves the position?
02:02:09LinusNyes
02:02:25LinusNotherwise it's only saved when the drive spins up
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02:02:35LinusNto read more mp3 data
02:04:01TrueDis_workawesome
02:04:06TrueDis_workthanks much LinusN
02:04:10LinusNyq
02:04:12LinusNyw
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02:16:14adi|workdocumentation looks good :)
02:19:53LinusNlooks like real documentation! wow! :-)
02:20:12adi|workhehehe
02:20:22adi|workneeds work/help.. but its a great start
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03:21:34 Join Guest [0] (jirc@Bd7b6.pppool.de)
03:21:55Guesthello any body there ???
03:22:00LinusNhi
03:22:08Guestok hi
03:22:42Guesti have made several changes on my rockbox copy
03:23:44Guestcan give me a small tip where i have to search to change the queue function in
03:24:15LinusNwhat do you want to change?
03:24:42Guestthis way that the current playlist stays in the dir where the last queue is made ???
03:25:27Guestunderstood???
03:26:13LinusNi get it
03:26:40LinusNlook in apps/playlist.c and apps/tree.c
03:27:32Guesti was there, but this ithink is a little bit covered
03:30:43LinusNthe reason that it feels "covered" is that it isn't easily implemented
03:31:27LinusNat least not if i remember it correctly
03:33:57Guestok if you don't see it now <no problem>, may be i try the maillist ...
03:35:13LinusNthere is a function called set_current_file()
03:36:27LinusNlook in wps.c to see how it is used
03:37:13Guestok i try
03:43:37Guestwait, you meant the function for setting cur dir for entering dir mode from wps
03:44:36Guesti meant if i play a file and queue a file from another dir then i prefer that the jb
03:45:02Guestcontinues there when the queue is over
03:45:28LinusNaha, you mean continues to play the next file after the last queued file?
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03:45:47Guestyes
03:46:22LinusNaha
03:47:29LinusNwell, look in tree.c line #1096 or something
03:47:55LinusNbuild_playlist() combined with play_list
03:50:42Guestcase TREE_ATTR_MPA .....?
03:50:47LinusNyup
03:51:08LinusNit builds a playlist from the current position of the dir browser
03:51:40Guestwhat's with ON+PLAY
03:51:46LinusN?
03:52:56Guestyou pointed to a line where entire playlists wher played
03:53:22LinusNyes, build from the current dir
03:53:26LinusNbuilt
03:53:32LinusNbuild_playlist()
03:53:52LinusNcreates a playlist with the contents of the current dir
03:54:12Guestdon't ment that wait ...
03:54:33Guesti mean playing in one dir then press ON then go to a new dir then press ...
03:54:43LinusNi know
03:54:48GuestON + PLAY for queue
03:55:05LinusNare you starting to understand why i said that this wasn't easily implemented?
03:55:22LinusNwe have no functions for what you want to accomplish
03:55:24Guestyes
03:55:32LinusNyou'll have to write them yourself
03:55:59Guestwait, what i want is implemented
03:56:23Guestgive me a last try to explain
03:56:35Guestonce again
03:57:01LinusNyou want the playback to continue with the file after the one that was played last in the queue
03:57:22LinusNregardless of where the dir browser is
03:58:51Guesti simply want that after using on+play - queuing the current play dir is the new selected dir
03:59:14LinusN"selected dir"?
03:59:39LinusNwe don't queue dirs, we queue files
04:00
04:00:43Guestwhile playing pressing on then go to a new dir then press on
04:01:20Guest+ play to quere a new file in that dir
04:02:06Guestthen if that file is played i want to have played the file in that dir
04:02:56jzossSo, like the "directory follows playlist" option?
04:03:10jzossOnly, "directory follows queueing, THEN follows playlist"?
04:04:11Guestok explain it for you jzoss
04:04:43jzossI've been "listening" to your explanation...
04:06:39Guestwhats all about how the jukebox chooses its next song after a queue (on+play..) is over
04:07:08LinusNthat's what i've been saying the whole time
04:07:19jzossyup
04:07:33LinusNyou want to continue playing the rest of the files in the same dir as the last queued song, right?
04:07:46Guestmaybe its a littlebit late in germany 4:00
04:07:55LinusNhere in sweden too
04:08:04Guestok ok YES
04:08:43Guest now its right
04:09:16LinusNso you need to rebuild the playlist in memory, because the current playlist is built from a different dir
04:09:38LinusNhence, build_playlist() and play_list() are your friends
04:09:54Guestnow i understand
04:10:09LinusNbut build_playlist() won't help you, since it scans the directiry currently being browsed
04:11:34Guestso every time you queue a new file the hole rest of the playlist has to be rebuilded new
04:11:56jzossIn your scheme, yes.
04:12:03Guest:-)
04:12:04LinusNno, only when the last file has been played in the queue
04:12:15jzossRight...I was just gonna say that. =)
04:14:36Guestso THANKS for support ;-) and a good night (morning)
04:14:42LinusNnite
04:14:48*LinusN is going to bed too
04:14:59Guestciao
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04:53:38kuazohoi
04:53:46jzosshello =)
04:54:01kuazohow are u :-)
04:54:09jzossjust fine, thx
04:55:11kuazoi need some remote control for the jukebox
04:55:22kuazodo u know how to build it...lol
04:57:05kuazoi know thats no question dealing with the rockbox, but i dont know any other jukebox freaks :-P
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05:31:06kuazois the rockbox firmware able to record with the jukebox right now?
05:32:28jzossyes
05:32:42kuazowow ...
05:32:55kuazosince?
05:33:55jzossI dunno. Daily builds (not 1.4), but it works
05:34:12jzossI'm assuming you mean recording on a Jukebox-recorder, not a Jukebox-player (or studio). =)
05:34:30kuazosure :o)
05:35:01kuazothe normal fireware does not have this feature u mean
05:35:19kuazoi need to install the daily updates? *confused*
05:35:33jzosswell, you can download either an "official" 1.4 version (which does not support recording, I don't think)
05:35:50jzossOr you can download the latest-and-greatest build ("daily build") created every day.
05:36:01jzossWhich has more features, but (perhaps) more bugs
05:36:30kuazoi c ! i thought the daily building only includes some features
05:36:40kuazobut its a bundle of all new...
05:36:42jzossyup.
05:37:19kuazoi didnt know that ... iam a fool :o)
05:37:21jzossIf you look under "patches", each patch contains only a single feature. But once that gets integrated into the main build, then the "daily builds" contain all the latest functionality
05:37:27jzosss'all good. We all learn as we go
05:38:16kuazo:o)
05:39:34kuazoand whats about some features i dont like
05:39:57kuazofor example i dont want screensavers or games :o)
05:40:18jzossIf you compile from source, there are configurable options not to include Demos or Games
05:40:47jzossBut everything else you pretty much have to take. Most features are configurable, though.
05:40:53kuazoiam just a stupid gfxer and flasher :o(
05:41:04kuazodamn :o)
05:41:44jzossYou could try to offer some input on how to improve Rockbox graphics... it might be welcomed. Some people like Graphic UI, some like Text UI.
05:42:53kuazoiam not a coder, sorry
05:43:13kuazothe only source i can deal with is html...lol
05:45:23kuazou c ?
05:45:26kuazo:o)
05:45:27jzossyup
05:45:38kuazobut i like your work as well
05:45:44jzoss??
05:45:48kuazoits briliant
05:46:03kuazoehm, the work of the rockbox team
05:46:53jzossIndeed. I haven't contributed anything, but some of the other guys have done some great work. =)
05:47:29kuazoi even dont know :o)
05:47:37kuazohowever, its phat
05:48:13kuazoi luv my jukebox
05:48:16kuazohrhr
05:55:26kuazodamn
05:55:33jzoss??
05:55:35kuazothis version is phat :o)
05:55:41jzosslol
05:56:21kuazothats just fucking good work !!!
05:56:41kuazothe db scale at the record mode
05:56:43kuazohrhr ...
05:57:18kuazoi alway record on party u have to know :o)
05:59:03kuazoits about 100 to 120 db there and this option is the thing i needed all the time
06:00
06:02:11kuazoehm, the daily version only supports english, well?
06:03:38jzossNo
06:03:52jzossThere should be .lang files floating around somewhere
06:04:10jzossIf you "PLAY" one, it'll switch to that language
06:04:26jzossBut you may need to compile-from-src to get those .lang files.
06:04:27kuazosure?
06:04:37kuazohm...damn :o)
06:04:44jzossPretty sure. But I only use English, so I can't help you so much. sorry
06:04:58kuazoi need a german one
06:05:50jzossgoto rockbox.haxx.se/lang and see if that'll work for you
06:05:57jzossYou need the .lng, not .lang file
06:06:29kuazoso i play the file an the language will be added
06:06:42jzossdon't see any german though. :(
06:07:20kuazoi have to start it every time i reboot the jukebox
06:07:23kuazo:o(
06:07:50jzosstry to put the .lang file in a /.rockbox directory. Sometimes, things need to be in there to be "remembered" between reboots
06:08:27kuazoyeah
06:08:34kuazoi just try it
06:09:27kuazomay i ask u where are u from?
06:09:39jzossSan Antonio, Texas, USA. =)
06:09:52kuazohrhr
06:10:08jzosswhat is "hrhr" you keep saying?
06:10:15kuazo<- dresden , sachsen, german
06:10:34jzossNever been there. Someday, though. =)
06:10:39kuazohrhr, just say it ... thats a kind of laughing
06:10:47jzossthat's what I figured. Just checking
06:11:09jzossIn case it really means "you're an idiot" (not that you'd tell me if that *was* the translation. hehe)
06:11:12kuazoya, if you come to germany then dresden :-P
06:12:11kuazono it just means that feel amused about
06:12:28kuazowhat english, damn :o)
06:12:30kuazosorry!!!
06:12:31jzossI'm just joking with you. Don't worry.
06:12:55kuazou make a fool of me, thanks :-P
06:13:04jzossnonono...
06:14:00kuazoehm
06:14:08kuazoi copied the file in the root dir
06:14:15kuazobut, its not there...lol
06:14:28jzosswhere did you copy it to?
06:14:37kuazothe root dir
06:15:15jzossso: "copy myfile.lang <rockboxDrive>/myfile.lang" ??
06:15:16kuazoany dir ... just G:/
06:15:22kuazoright
06:15:27jzossstrange
06:15:47kuazotechnic that rulez
06:16:00kuazoit this the right spelling? :o)
06:16:10jzossof what?
06:16:30kuazoforget it
06:16:34jzosssorry
06:17:40kuazoi ll try it onces more
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06:20:55elinenbejzoss: you here?
06:21:00jzossyup
06:21:02elinenbe_seb_: you here?
06:21:12elinenbejzoss: I have notices something with your patch.
06:21:38elinenbejzoss: the red hard drive light keeps blinking on and off the entire time I am on the wps screen (hard drive reading?)
06:21:48elinenbejzoss: and my batteries die quick!
06:21:49jzossyah, I noticed that too.
06:21:53jzossNot sure why.
06:22:00jzossWasn't sure if it was CVS or my patch.
06:22:10elinenbeI think it is your patch.
06:22:16jzosssigh. That's bad
06:22:20elinenbeI had not noticed that yesterday.
06:22:25elinenbe(with the CVS)
06:22:33jzossI'll check CVS now to see.
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06:23:00elinenbeit is bad because the batteries die very quickly.
06:23:05jzossyes
06:24:22elinenbebrb
06:24:50kuazoi got it working
06:25:03jzossgood
06:25:22kuazou have to change the file filter
06:25:27kuazoto see the file...lol
06:26:07jzossyup
06:26:09kuazoiam i bit confused
06:26:24kuazobecause there is no file option
06:26:44kuazoi listen to music and want to explore other dirs
06:28:02jzosswhile plauing, to switch from WPS (filename/progressbar) screen to file-view, press ON. And press ON again to get back to WPS view from dir view
06:29:10kuazooki
06:30:12kuazoone more question ... where is the option to delete files
06:30:57jzoss(in dir view), press ON+PLAY at the same time
06:31:50kuazolol :o)
06:31:51kuazook
06:35:44elinenbejzoss: how is the other patch you are working on coming along?
06:36:00jzosspretty well. The format-parser is done. Just doing the load/save settings code
06:36:13jzossBut now I'm back on fixing the 1st patch. The disk-read error is ugly
06:36:32jzossAs a workaround, if the WPS is *NOT* showing, you don't get that constant disk spin-up. Go figure.
06:41:12kuazojust a stupid question of a user like me :o) ... why cant i delete a whole dir full of files?
06:41:28elinenbejzoss: I know.
06:41:42jzossbecause that requires special coding which is not in place now. Can't delete dirs or recursively delete files in a dir
06:41:53elinenbeI was on the bus earlier and the batteries were dying so quickly, that I had to put it in browser mode.
06:42:38kuazook, it was just a question :o)
06:43:01jzossYah, it's not usable like that. But I don't know what I changed that would affect that.. Hmmm.
06:44:29kuazomanaging and deleting files is far better via pc
06:44:34jzossyes
06:44:41kuazobut it was just a question :o)
06:44:44elinenbewell, whenever you get around to finishing/fixing/updating the patches it would be great if you could add them to the patch tracker on sourceforge. I am heading out of the country for a week and would love them on the jukebox.
06:44:49elinenbe(leaving friday night)
06:45:09jzosselinenbe: that's the plan. Enjoy your trip!
06:45:17elinenbesounds grrat!
06:45:26elinenbegreat!
06:45:51kuazodoes the rockbox also improve the sound quality?
06:45:52kuazohmm...
06:46:01elinenbekuazo: in some respects.
06:47:13kuazojzoss, i found a reason for deleting whole dirs via jukebox
06:47:43kuazoif i connect the jukebox to my pc
06:47:53kuazothere are no files under the Recycled dir
06:48:17jzossright.
06:48:26kuazobut there are about 2 gig mp3s in it :o(
06:48:35kuazothat suckz :-P
06:49:28jzoss?? No files = 2gig ??
06:50:10kuazosome day my stupid windows fixed some problems on the jukebox
06:50:29kuazodo u know what i mean
06:50:50kuazoi dont know the right word in english, its like a chkdsk
06:50:55kuazocheck disk :o)
06:50:57jzossright
06:51:22jzossso there's 2gigs of files you can't delete under Windows?
06:51:23kuazomaby thats the reason for this shit, i dont really know
06:51:28kuazoright
06:51:43kuazothats a problem :o)
06:52:11kuazoall of them are djsets, so its only about 20
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07:04:28kuazoi gonna need some manuel for button / function details
07:06:04jzosssomeone's working on a manual. It should be ready for the 2.0 release "just around the corner". ;)
07:06:18elinenbekuazo: check out the site rockbox.haxx.sew
07:06:23elinenberockbox.haxx.se
07:06:29elinenbehttp://rockbox.haxx.se/
07:06:56jzosselinenbe... I tracked the WPS bug down to the cfg-loading code.
07:07:05jzossWhich is convenient, since I'm rewriting that anyway. =)
07:07:22kuazoi only asked this question, cause iam dont want to nerv u :o)
07:07:30kuazo-am
07:08:19jzossg'night, all.
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07:11:39kuazocya all
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08:48:58ZagorBagder: will you look at the x11 tick issue reported?
08:49:03Bagderyes
08:49:08BagderI'll respond soon
08:49:18TBoydoes any1 know if there is a command to rename myself on the irc
08:49:25Bagder /nick
08:49:28TBoyok
08:49:30TBoythx
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10:34:31Guesthi there! just one question: what does the "power saving" feature in the player menu mean? does it work already?
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11:10:20Bagderit sets the CPU to sleep during short periods
11:10:31Bagderit works
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11:14:54dwihnoWorks(tm)
11:15:00dwihnoEverything works! :D
11:15:03dwihnoHooray!
11:15:08dwihnoLet's celebrate!
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12:00:00Bagderhi
12:00:11TBoyhi
12:00:30TBoyI hope the postman will be coming soon
12:00:41TBoyI can't wait for my recorder
12:01:20TBoysince I still have got my recorder, I'd like to ask how the automatic sound leveling works
12:01:29TBoyI mean I have used mp3gain on all of mine
12:01:50TBoyso they are all not clipped but how does rb do this
12:04:03TBoyhave I got to select a number in the option or does it just automaticly volumize the songs with the same percentage as the song I'm playin
12:05:50*TBoy thinks nobody likes him
12:06:45*TBoy has tears running down his cheeks :-'(
12:07:17Bagderafaik, there is no automatic leveling on recording
12:07:37TBoyno I'm mean on normal playin
12:07:41TBoynot recording
12:07:59TBoyI mean how do I select the volume I want my songs to be
12:08:08BagderI don't know if the mp3gain stuff is considered at all
12:08:28TBoythe good thing about mp3gain it doesn't normalize
12:09:25TBoysee a mp3 file has, along with the music and the tags, extra data wich tells how loud it should be played at
12:09:55BagderI know
12:09:57TBoyand with this program you can define volume, by picking db
12:10:33TBoyand this way they don't get clipped except if they were encoded really silently
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12:27:24Zagormp3gain works with the mp3 data itself afaik, so it's handled by all players
12:27:55TBoyI know that
12:28:21TBoyI just wanted to know how the auto volume thing on rb work
12:28:23TBoyworks
12:28:41Zagorah
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14:01:33dwihnoZagor: hey, the mutt stuff (iso hello åäö) didn't work! :(
14:04:26Zagorworks for me :-)
14:04:37dwihnodarn blahblah!
14:04:46dwihnoDo I need to set something in the shell?
14:08:10Zagorno
14:08:21Zagori remember I had some trouble with it too until I got it right
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14:11:40Schnueffis LC_CTYPE set?
14:11:49Zagornope
14:11:56Schnuefffor example, i set LC_CTYPE to de_DE.ISO-8859-1, then start mutt
14:12:24Schnueffand then umlauts work (with the muttrc settings u mentioned last week)
14:12:51dwihnoLC_TYPE? erhm
14:12:57SchnueffLC_CTYPE
14:13:08Schnueff(environment variable)
14:13:14ZagorI set neither
14:13:17Schnueffhm k
14:13:41Schnueffand your standard locale is ...?
14:19:32Zagoren_US
14:19:54quelsaruklunch time
14:19:57quelsarukcu l8r
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14:20:03dwihnodoesn't work :-/
14:20:10quel|lunchdwihno: need a goat?
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14:23:46dwihnoquel|lunch: I could use that :-D
14:24:14quel|lunchi'll send you one via fedex ;)
14:27:04dwihno:D
14:27:06dwihnoyay!
14:43:30dwihnoquel, did you bribe Linus yet? I think no less than 10 goats will be sufficient! ;)
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14:44:28Guesthello
14:44:50Bagderhey
14:45:31Guesti have a short question to ROCKBOX. is it possible to change playlists with the Archos jukebox 20?
14:45:57Bagderchange playlists?
14:46:03Bagderyou mean edit?
14:46:13Guestyes without pc. yes edit. sorry ....
14:46:21Bagdernope, that's not yet possible
14:47:16Guesthmm and another question. i have the latest cvs version. whats about queing. how dows it work?
14:47:53Bagderon+play while playing a song
14:48:43Guestyes and then for a short moment there is a blank screen and the red led is on. but it doesn't work. he plays then the next song out of the directory ?-)
14:50:23Guesti am making something wrong ?!
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14:53:38GuestBagder do you have a idea?
14:55:29Bagderyou have a .rockbox dir?
14:56:05Guestno. is it needed ?!
14:56:09Bagderyes
14:56:14Bagderfor queueing
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14:56:23Guestoh i will try this. thx....
14:56:25Bagderit must exist in the root dir of your archos
14:56:49Guesti am on the way to create it.....
14:58:16Guestthx it works ....
14:58:33Guestis this directory needed by any functions too?!
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15:00:43Guestor is it possible to view the que list?
15:02:09Bagder.rockbox is generally used by all sorts of rockbox functions
15:03:04Guestoh thx. and is it possible to view the quelist?
15:03:25Bagdernope
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15:05:10dwihnoShort visit :(
15:05:18*dwihno bought a skohorn today!
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16:17:43quelsarukBagder: i have one question about queue function :)
16:18:45quelsarukwhen you queue a file, do you get a screen or something that tell you that the song has been queued??
16:19:51Bagdertry it
16:20:32quelsaruki mean... i've tried but get nothing, and of course the file doesn't get queued
16:20:54Bagderand you have a .rockbox dir?
16:20:57Schnueffheh
16:21:06quelsaruki know that when i was able to queue files (loooong ago) you got a screen saying how many files queued and so on
16:21:13quelsarukBagder: of course ;)
16:21:20Schnueffon+play should get you a menu
16:21:23quelsarukyes
16:21:28Schnueffhm
16:21:33quelsarukand after that i press play and nothing happens
16:21:50Bagderwhile you have a song playing?
16:21:58quelsarukyups
16:22:12quelsarukBagder: this may be another demon or something like that ;)
16:22:20quelsarukit's current cvs
16:22:32quelsaruki play a song
16:22:35quelsarukpress on..
16:22:36quelsaruknavigate
16:22:51quelsarukpress on+play on the song i want to queue
16:22:58quelsarukget the quick screen
16:23:04quelsarukpress play again
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16:23:34quelsarukthe quick screen disappears and i get again into the browser
16:23:44BagderI think it should do that
16:23:51Schnueffyes, the feedback screen you mentioned has vanished some time ago
16:24:11quelsarukafter that... wait 'till the song endes
16:24:12quelsarukand...
16:24:16Schnueffand...?
16:24:23Schnueff:)
16:24:44quelsaruki get the next song in the directory, or to the browser if it was the last song in a dir, and have repeat off
16:24:53quelsarukweird
16:24:57Schnueffyes
16:24:57quelsarukstupid... and nonsense
16:25:04quelsarukbut, that's my life
16:25:05quelsaruk:)
16:25:47Bagderis there a goat involved in this? ;-)
16:26:34dwihnohey, leave the goat out of this :)
16:27:59quelsarukno, Bagder, i've sent last one via fedex to dwihno :)
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16:30:21langhaarrockerhöhö :)
16:30:29dwihnohöhö, en liten eskimö
16:31:43quelsarukgreat.... you are talking strange languages.. devil is inside you!! Inkisition may banish all of you damned ones!
16:32:52langhaarrockerI may assure you: I don't live in iglus and I prefer a tropic beach over arctic ice
16:33:23quelsaruk¿?
16:33:52langhaarrocker(which should diqualify me to be an eskimö)
16:34:02quelsarukahhh
16:34:03quelsaruk:)
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16:54:31PsycoXullanghaarrocker: hey
16:54:44PsycoXullanghaarrocker: thats pretty good stuff (your music)
16:54:52PsycoXullanghaarrocker: what do you play?
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16:56:50langhaarrockerThank you. I'm the bassman
16:56:59PsycoXulcool, thats what i'd have guessed heh
16:57:14PsycoXulbe interested in any internet collaboration? heh
16:57:31langhaarrockerOpen Source music? :)
16:57:43PsycoXuli play guitar, i can possibly maybe sing, drums can be sequenced, but getting good bass lines without a bassist is near impossible heh
16:59:36langhaarrockerI definitly can not sing. I have proven that and many people agreed with me on that topic. :(
16:59:41PsycoXulhehe
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17:02:02Bagdertime to run off, see ya
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17:03:29PsycoXulwell if i manage to get any guitar and drum tracks layed down i'll send 'em to ya, see what you think... maybe you'll wanna contribute hehe
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17:11:47langhaarrockernice idea. I just hope to find the time for that.
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19:27:15jzossZagor: you there?
19:27:42Zagoryup
19:28:11jzossAs part of the patches I'm working on, I'm loading some settings from file @ startup
19:28:31jzossNot using the standard cfg file, because they're many bytes long (e.g. ID3 tags)
19:28:57jzossI added the cfg-loading coad in load_config_buffer
19:29:14jzossBut if I do any reading from file (using read(fd, ...), things get screwy
19:29:37jzossWhenever playing and WPS is showing, I get near constant disk reads (pulsed @ ~2HZ).
19:29:54jzossIf WPS is not showing (and code is still playing), no unusual disk reads
19:30:19jzossAny ideas? Am I not allowed to use open/read from within load_config_buffer? Maybe there's some more initializing still to do...
19:30:59Zagorsounds like something else. hard to say without seeing where you have insterted code.
19:31:37jzossYou don't think it's got anything to do with the read() call then?
19:31:43jzosshmmmm....
19:32:10Zagorno
19:32:51Zagorthe config block is saved about every two seconds. it sounds like you've added something to that.
19:33:22jzossahhh.. yes
19:33:42jzossThought cfg block was only saved @ key points (shutdown, exit settings/menus, etc)
19:33:58jzossI'll shift my load/save code to be called elsewhere.
19:34:07Zagornono, it's saved constantly to keep the resume info up-to-date
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19:34:22jzossgotchya. thx
19:34:29Bagderhey ho
19:34:39matslho hi
19:34:45quelsarukhi Bagder
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19:43:41ZagorBagder: check out my cool new design on the byta.haxx site
19:44:19Bagder*NEAT*
19:44:45Zagorquite a difference :-)
19:45:13BagderI still want the total number of appartments shown on the front page ;-)
19:45:50quelsarukZagor: did you repair what was wrong yesterday?
19:46:00ZagorBagder: yeah, it's a good idea
19:46:13Zagorquelsaruk: no. I gave up and now use a table instead
19:46:20quelsarukhahahaha
19:46:24Zagor:-(
19:46:27quelsarukyou can't say that to me
19:46:39Zagorit's very annoying
19:46:40quelsarukyou were something like a myth for me
19:46:56quelsaruknow.. you're another crazy swedish
19:47:16quelsarukdid you try that 50% instead of auto?
19:48:26Zagorquelsaruk: yes. but it messes up. 50% means 50% of total, so you have to deduct the margins and padding you use, which of course are specified in pixels. so you can never make it add up to 100%!
19:50:00quelsarukjummss
19:50:00quelsaruk:(
19:50:04quelsarukit was a good idea
19:57:26Zagorbrb
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19:57:33quelsarukhttp://usuarios.lycos.es/delecami/acreditaciones.gif
19:58:05quelsaruktake a look at it pliz
19:58:07quelsaruk:)
19:58:22jzossdid you do that? nice. =)
19:58:40Bagdercool
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20:09:08quelsaruktorito español :)
20:09:47quelsaruki was going to write "rockbox" on the t-shirts....
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20:28:06random1hello.. I'm hearing a lot of distortion at high volumes on recent nightlies with my fm recorder, but the sound is clear with archos firmware. would anyone with an fm rec be willing to receive an example mp3 file to see if they hear the same prob? it's remotely possible that it's a hw issue since it seems the archos firmware doesn't try to go as loud as rockbox
20:28:42Bagder?
20:28:50Bagderso you have the rockbox louder?
20:29:02*Bagder has no fm
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20:29:27random1no, volume is maxed in both firmwares.. but it seems that archos-fw max vol isn't as loud as rockbox's
20:29:36Bagderthat's correct
20:29:40Bagderso don't use max
20:29:50Bagdermax is madness
20:30:05quelsaruknot really.. if you are deft
20:30:06quelsaruk:)
20:30:14Bagderwell, you'll become deaf
20:30:29quelsarukor have a troupe of goats at your side
20:31:40random1at any rate i did not hear any distortion at max vol on a nightly from around 2/14ish
20:31:53Bagderok
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21:17:37quelsarukbye!
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22:25:16QInterHello Rockboxers
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22:28:50QInterI have one question: Does anybody know if somebody is working on a _save settings_ feature?
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