| 00:00:11 | tracktheripper | ohh |
| 00:00:19 | nikkelitous | I actually don't follow the rules. I usually just compile it where it is. |
| 00:00:25 | nikkelitous | I know I shouldn't. |
| 00:00:26 | tracktheripper | I can't even get Cygwin to work and Ive read the docs to death |
| 00:00:35 | LinusN | what is the dir called where you have the rockbox source? |
| 00:00:47 | nikkelitous | Firmware I think. |
| 00:00:57 | nikkelitous | Or rockbox. |
| 00:01:08 | nikkelitous | One of the two. |
| 00:01:16 | nikkelitous | rockbox |
| 00:01:19 | LinusN | so you also have rockbox/firmware and rockbox/apps, right? |
| 00:01:23 | nikkelitous | yeah |
| 00:01:26 | nikkelitous | and tools. |
| 00:01:28 | nikkelitous | and www. |
| 00:01:36 | LinusN | create a dir called rockbox/recsim |
| 00:01:54 | LinusN | cd rockbox |
| 00:01:56 | LinusN | mkdir recsim |
| 00:01:57 | nikkelitous | 'K/ |
| 00:02:35 | nikkelitous | USB 1.1 is way too slow. |
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| 00:04:40 | LinusN | have you created the dir? |
| 00:08:30 | nikkelitous | yeah. |
| 00:08:37 | nikkelitous | When I said 'K I had. |
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| 00:11:12 | LinusN | aha |
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| 00:11:19 | LinusN | cd recsim |
| 00:11:31 | LinusN | ../tools/configure |
| 00:12:22 | nikkelitous | cygwin or cmd? |
| 00:13:51 | nikkelitous | nevermind... Done |
| 00:14:50 | tracktheripper | :-) |
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| 00:16:44 | LinusN | nikkelitous: after configure is done, run "make" |
| 00:17:08 | nikkelitous | Ok. |
| 00:17:18 | nikkelitous | Errors. |
| 00:17:28 | LinusN | i only managed to compile recorder,though |
| 00:17:36 | LinusN | you need Perl |
| 00:17:45 | nikkelitous | I have perl |
| 00:17:50 | LinusN | what was the error? |
| 00:18:04 | nikkelitous | There are no other files in the dir 'sides Makefile |
| 00:18:18 | LinusN | that's how it should be |
| 00:18:47 | nikkelitous | can't copy the error. |
| 00:19:16 | nikkelitous | Something about the .dep directory doesn't exist. |
| 00:20:41 | nikkelitous | Its really funny when the least lag you get is from a server halfway to the other side of the planet. |
| 00:21:16 | nikkelitous | sh-elf-gcc: not found |
| 00:21:20 | nikkelitous | Thats the first error |
| 00:22:27 | LinusN | nikkelitous: you should have answered Simulator instead of Normal |
| 00:22:34 | nikkelitous | Oh oops |
| 00:23:04 | nikkelitous | fixed the config |
| 00:23:12 | LinusN | the .dep errors are normal |
| 00:24:01 | nikkelitous | Now I KNOW why this new error happened. |
| 00:24:08 | nikkelitous | I'll have to move my dir. |
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| 00:26:06 | nikkelitous | There we go. |
| 00:26:16 | nikkelitous | Had it in a directory with a space in the name. |
| 00:26:48 | nikkelitous | Your configure should probably insert a \ before all spaces. |
| 00:27:33 | LinusN | hehe, nobody have noticed that yet |
| 00:27:49 | nikkelitous | New error. Only info is Error 255 |
| 00:28:07 | nikkelitous | in sysfont.o |
| 00:28:36 | LinusN | cd ../tools |
| 00:28:37 | LinusN | make |
| 00:29:00 | nikkelitous | what is Error 255? |
| 00:29:04 | nikkelitous | Not found? |
| 00:29:11 | LinusN | i don't know |
| 00:29:27 | nikkelitous | Then how did you know how to fix it? |
| 00:29:33 | LinusN | did i? |
| 00:29:38 | nikkelitous | does ANYONE understand GCCs errors? |
| 00:29:47 | nikkelitous | Yeah you did. |
| 00:29:48 | PsycoXul | gcc's errors are simple |
| 00:29:53 | PsycoXul | and straight forward |
| 00:30:15 | nikkelitous | Is it makes errors that are obfusicated? |
| 00:30:20 | PsycoXul | i've read pages about compiler errors |
| 00:30:25 | LinusN | after you typed make in tools, did you go back and try again? |
| 00:30:28 | PsycoXul | and different ones from different compilers |
| 00:30:33 | PsycoXul | and gcc's are some of the nicest |
| 00:30:42 | nikkelitous | Yeah. It worked perfect. |
| 00:30:46 | nikkelitous | Running and everything. |
| 00:30:49 | PsycoXul | nikkelitous: most people seem to miss gcc's errors when looking at make's output |
| 00:30:50 | nikkelitous | 0 problems. |
| 00:31:17 | PsycoXul | i dunno how many times somebody's asked what a compilation error meant, and only pasted the make error |
| 00:31:23 | LinusN | nikkelitous: typing 'make' in the tools/ dir is the first thing you should do according to docs/README |
| 00:31:30 | nikkelitous | Yeah I know. |
| 00:31:45 | nikkelitous | I told you... I read them but I don't follow instructions well. |
| 00:31:53 | LinusN | :-) |
| 00:33:16 | nikkelitous | I figured the tools were mainly 'tools' and not 'utilities' |
| 00:33:37 | nikkelitous | Tools are uneccesary. Utilities are neccesary. |
| 00:33:54 | nikkelitous | Geeks are weird that way. |
| 00:34:11 | nikkelitous | For most professions it is the other way around. |
| 00:35:48 | nikkelitous | Sheesh. How do people fill these things up? 20 gigs is bigger than my whole hard-drive. |
| 00:36:14 | LinusN | i have 13 gigs on my jukebox |
| 00:36:46 | LinusN | and i have 400Gb drive space on my PC :-) |
| 00:37:24 | LinusN | video editing sure eats hard drive space :-) |
| 00:38:17 | nikkelitous | I have a laptop so I can't get a big drive. I can't stand the noise of desktops. |
| 00:38:24 | nikkelitous | I have seriously sensitive hearing. |
| 00:38:36 | nikkelitous | Which is why I could justify buying an Archos. |
| 00:41:19 | nikkelitous | Well... I have to run. |
| 00:41:22 | nikkelitous | Au Revoir. |
| 00:41:27 | LinusN | au revoir |
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| 02:10:34 | | Join archtelamon [0] (archtelamo@du185038.spa.ptd.net) |
| 02:10:39 | archtelamon | guys i need help |
| 02:10:49 | archtelamon | my rockbox stopped workin today |
| 02:10:51 | archtelamon | like |
| 02:10:59 | archtelamon | im back at the old operating system |
| 02:11:02 | archtelamon | and i dont want it |
| 02:12:34 | LinusN | what happened? |
| 02:12:47 | archtelamon | well |
| 02:12:49 | archtelamon | lets see |
| 02:12:53 | archtelamon | last night it was workin |
| 02:12:57 | archtelamon | then today at 4:30 |
| 02:13:00 | archtelamon | i turned it on |
| 02:13:07 | archtelamon | and it was back at old operating system |
| 02:13:10 | archtelamon | so i went home |
| 02:13:12 | archtelamon | recharged it |
| 02:13:29 | archtelamon | then deleted ajbrec.abz(watever) and .rockbox |
| 02:13:33 | archtelamon | unmounted it |
| 02:13:36 | archtelamon | rebooted |
| 02:13:45 | archtelamon | then mounted it and reloaded it |
| 02:13:51 | archtelamon | and it didnt go on |
| 02:14:08 | archtelamon | so im back at operating system |
| 02:14:21 | LinusN | windows or linux? |
| 02:14:44 | archtelamon | windows |
| 02:14:55 | LinusN | ok have you tried scandisk? |
| 02:14:55 | archtelamon | on the Archos im back at OS |
| 02:14:58 | archtelamon | no no no |
| 02:15:01 | archtelamon | on the Archos |
| 02:15:07 | archtelamon | not computer |
| 02:15:11 | archtelamon | sorry |
| 02:15:18 | archtelamon | <- technically inept |
| 02:15:26 | LinusN | ok have you tried scandisk? |
| 02:15:58 | archtelamon | on the archos? no |
| 02:16:03 | LinusN | you should |
| 02:16:07 | archtelamon | how |
| 02:16:18 | archtelamon | diagnose? |
| 02:16:54 | LinusN | then you should read the FAQ, question 66 |
| 02:16:57 | LinusN | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/faq.html#66 |
| 02:17:06 | archtelamon | muchos gracias |
| 02:17:35 | LinusN | right click on the archos drive letter, select Properties, then tools (i think) |
| 02:17:57 | LinusN | then you have "check for errors" or whatever |
| 02:18:02 | LinusN | winxp? |
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| 02:32:36 | | Quit archtelamon (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 02:33:32 | G16aByT3 | you rockbox guys are the best. |
| 02:34:07 | G16aByT3 | anyone here? awake ? |
| 02:34:27 | LinusN | i'm here |
| 02:34:41 | LinusN | 2:30am :-) |
| 02:35:11 | G16aByT3 | guess not. |
| 02:35:11 | | Quit G16aByT3 (Client Quit) |
| 02:35:20 | LinusN | :-) |
| 02:48:51 | | Join archtelamon [0] (archtelamo@du184130.spa.ptd.net) |
| 02:48:57 | archtelamon | Linus it didnt work |
| 02:49:07 | archtelamon | SnooopD |
| 02:49:11 | archtelamon | says not enough memory |
| 02:50:19 | LinusN | wow |
| 02:50:32 | archtelamon | yea |
| 02:50:39 | archtelamon | im screwed huh |
| 02:50:41 | LinusN | what did scandisk say? |
| 02:50:57 | archtelamon | it froze my computer up |
| 02:51:06 | LinusN | totally? |
| 02:51:13 | archtelamon | yups |
| 02:51:17 | archtelamon | im on ME |
| 02:51:26 | archtelamon | Windows ME |
| 02:51:26 | archtelamon | i hate Bill Gates |
| 02:51:33 | LinusN | :-) |
| 02:51:52 | LinusN | sounds like you need to reformat the drive |
| 02:52:01 | archtelamon | yea |
| 02:52:13 | archtelamon | thank god i have it backed up on comp |
| 02:52:14 | LinusN | do you have any clue what could have made this? |
| 02:52:15 | archtelamon | ok |
| 02:52:18 | archtelamon | ill do that |
| 02:52:42 | archtelamon | uh |
| 02:52:45 | archtelamon | how do i do that? |
| 02:53:10 | LinusN | right-click on the drive letter in file explorer, select Format |
| 02:53:21 | archtelamon | ok |
| 02:54:13 | LinusN | be sure to select Quick format, or it will take ages |
| 03:00 |
| 03:19:26 | LinusN | gotta sleep |
| 03:19:27 | | Quit archtelamon (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 03:19:28 | LinusN | nite |
| 03:19:34 | | Part LinusN |
| 03:26:57 | | Join midknight2k3 [0] (midknight2@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) |
| 03:27:05 | midknight2k3 | It's me! |
| 03:27:29 | midknight2k3 | Zakk1 |
| 03:28:25 | midknight2k3 | Just wanted to say how excellent Rockbox is |
| 03:36:34 | midknight2k3 | Do you remember me? |
| 03:38:16 | PsycoXul | heh hi |
| 03:42:48 | midknight2k3 | Oh so you DO remember me |
| 03:43:11 | PsycoXul | no i don't, your name waz kaz2 or something? :p |
| 03:47:17 | midknight2k3 | zakk1 |
| 03:47:40 | midknight2k3 | The skepticalism about it and the HD pass lock remmeber? |
| 03:48:30 | PsycoXul | yes of course i remember, i was kidding :p |
| 03:48:36 | PsycoXul | i can still see you saying |
| 03:48:39 | PsycoXul | 18:30 < midknight2k3> Zakk1 |
| 03:48:41 | PsycoXul | on the screen |
| 03:48:41 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:48:53 | midknight2k3 | But |
| 03:48:59 | midknight2k3 | I meant do you remember me from last night |
| 03:49:11 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:49:15 | PsycoXul | yes, damnit :p |
| 03:50:22 | midknight2k3 | Oh well sorry you don't have to get up and say the 'damn' word god, why are you being this way? No, don't!! WHY ARE YOU SO MEAN NOW??? |
| 03:50:31 | PsycoXul | hehe :p |
| 03:50:47 | PsycoXul | are you high? |
| 03:50:55 | midknight2k3 | No, I'm 13 |
| 03:51:04 | PsycoXul | are you really? |
| 03:51:12 | midknight2k3 | Yes, wh?y |
| 03:51:17 | PsycoXul | ah ok |
| 03:51:30 | midknight2k3 | No relaly why? |
| 03:51:31 | PsycoXul | didn't know |
| 03:52:25 | PsycoXul | anyway, why wouldn't i remember you from last night heh |
| 03:52:31 | midknight2k3 | Ther's no law against a 13 year old illegally upgrading the Archos firmware and being in a chat room is there? |
| 03:52:46 | PsycoXul | this is irc, not television.. our memories are a bit longer here :p |
| 03:53:00 | midknight2k3 | Uh? |
| 03:53:05 | midknight2k3 | anyways.... |
| 03:53:08 | PsycoXul | illegally upgrading the archos firmware? |
| 03:53:14 | MT | theres nothing 'illegal' about rockbox, or changing the firmware on a device you own |
| 03:53:14 | midknight2k3 | You want to see something funny? |
| 03:53:18 | midknight2k3 | You know what i mean ;) |
| 03:53:23 | midknight2k3 | I'm kidding |
| 03:53:30 | midknight2k3 | I mean, warranty-voidable-ing |
| 03:53:30 | PsycoXul | archos actualy plans on shipping recorders with rockbox last i heard... |
| 03:53:32 | MT | the only way it could possibly be illegal is if it circumvented copy protection |
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| 03:53:41 | MT | it doesnt void warranty either |
| 03:53:49 | midknight2k3 | No? |
| 03:53:49 | PsycoXul | or was that studios, i forget |
| 03:54:04 | midknight2k3 | Anyways, cheer up want to see something funny? |
| 03:54:09 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 03:54:24 | MT | cracking it open and desoldering the boards to see how it works however, does |
| 03:54:33 | midknight2k3 | http://www.weckstrom.com - first blog entry, click picture it's hilarious |
| 03:55:48 | ScottE | That's cool... |
| 03:56:02 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:56:09 | midknight2k3 | Looks tricked |
| 03:56:24 | midknight2k3 | The clean new Camry or whatever, then the icy old thing |
| 04:00 |
| 04:00:29 | PsycoXul | bbl dinner |
| 04:01:15 | midknight2k3 | OF COURSE |
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| 04:05:02 | darkalfie | heya, anyone around tat can help me out with my ajr20gb ? |
| 04:05:20 | darkalfie | having this problem of not being able to boot it up. |
| 04:05:42 | darkalfie | i switched it on, i get the archos logo, version 1.28 os, etc.. 2 black boxes (and a bunch of white ones) |
| 04:05:47 | darkalfie | and the unit auto-switches off :( |
| 04:05:47 | midknight2k3 | Yeah |
| 04:05:55 | darkalfie | i took out the batteries, tested them all. 1.2v |
| 04:05:56 | midknight2k3 | The batteries |
| 04:05:59 | midknight2k3 | Try charging it |
| 04:06:16 | darkalfie | i plugged in charger, nothing came up. i tried to on it with charger plugged it, same thing |
| 04:06:31 | darkalfie | it felts like battery low (coz i can hear the hdd power up and the unit goes off) |
| 04:06:34 | midknight2k3 | Huh |
| 04:06:51 | darkalfie | but the batteries were tested (with a voltmeter) at 1.2v each.. i had charged it full the nite b4 |
| 04:07:03 | midknight2k3 | Yes exactly |
| 04:07:07 | midknight2k3 | That's what happened to me |
| 04:07:13 | midknight2k3 | It charged overnite |
| 04:07:19 | midknight2k3 | It was dead in the morning |
| 04:07:20 | darkalfie | yeah. |
| 04:07:28 | darkalfie | lol.. ok.. so its just dead batteries ? |
| 04:07:28 | midknight2k3 | Charger worked for me tho |
| 04:07:33 | ScottE | darkalfie: Hold the ON button down until the 2nd box appears. |
| 04:07:44 | midknight2k3 | I guess 2.0 just has battery issues |
| 04:07:49 | midknight2k3 | 2.0=dailybuilds |
| 04:08:28 | darkalfie | ScottE: same problem :( |
| 04:08:44 | darkalfie | when it switches on, i see OS Version 1.28, and then it goes off |
| 04:09:17 | ScottE | Hmmm.. |
| 04:09:26 | midknight2k3 | You using Rockbox 1.4 or dailybuild 2.0? |
| 04:09:39 | darkalfie | dailybuilds |
| 04:09:45 | midknight2k3 | Try 1.4 |
| 04:09:52 | darkalfie | ok.. |
| 04:09:55 | midknight2k3 | Put in some plain AA batteries |
| 04:09:59 | darkalfie | problem is how to get 1.4 in when i cant boot it |
| 04:09:59 | midknight2k3 | USB plug |
| 04:10:04 | midknight2k3 | Delete the .ajz file |
| 04:10:09 | darkalfie | it works with AA ? i tot AA was 1.5v ? |
| 04:10:12 | midknight2k3 | Put in RB 1.4F |
| 04:10:16 | midknight2k3 | Oh wait |
| 04:10:23 | midknight2k3 | Umm it might |
| 04:10:28 | midknight2k3 | Charger don't work? |
| 04:10:32 | darkalfie | nope |
| 04:10:45 | midknight2k3 | It must be dead |
| 04:10:49 | darkalfie | charger or no charger, the thing refuses to go pass 2nd box |
| 04:11:00 | darkalfie | It = ? unit ? battery ? |
| 04:11:07 | midknight2k3 | charger |
| 04:11:25 | midknight2k3 | ScottE - it safe to try AA's in the unit, temporarily? |
| 04:11:34 | ScottE | What about if you rename the ajz file and try to boot with factory firmware? |
| 04:11:43 | midknight2k3 | I said just delete it |
| 04:11:47 | darkalfie | ScottE: cant boot into it at all :( |
| 04:11:49 | midknight2k3 | But it won't bottup so thats impossible |
| 04:11:56 | ScottE | Sorry midknight2k3 - didn't see that |
| 04:12:03 | midknight2k3 | Tis ok |
| 04:12:08 | ScottE | Not sure on trying normal AA batts.... |
| 04:12:17 | midknight2k3 | Even just for a minute?? |
| 04:13:01 | midknight2k3 | brb - darkalfie, stay here in chat ok |
| 04:13:04 | ScottE | It won't even come up in USB mode? |
| 04:13:07 | midknight2k3 | I will be in about 5 minutes |
| 04:13:15 | darkalfie | sure |
| 04:13:17 | darkalfie | will be her |
| 04:13:36 | darkalfie | let me try usb again |
| 04:13:57 | ScottE | ok |
| 04:17:51 | darkalfie | nope. no luck |
| 04:17:55 | darkalfie | unit refuses to boot up |
| 04:18:00 | darkalfie | 2black boxes and offs |
| 04:18:11 | darkalfie | (btw, wat stage is 2 black box at ? loading the updated firmware?) |
| 04:18:20 | midknight2k3 | No |
| 04:18:29 | midknight2k3 | Turning on HDD to find firmware, if any |
| 04:18:37 | midknight2k3 | HD Bootup to load player |
| 04:19:04 | ScottE | Ah... good hint in there midknight2k3 - darkalfie, does the HD spin up at the 2nd box? |
| 04:20:08 | darkalfie | i hear it powerup |
| 04:20:11 | darkalfie | then after it powersup |
| 04:20:13 | darkalfie | it goes off |
| 04:20:16 | midknight2k3 | dies |
| 04:20:23 | midknight2k3 | Best bet: |
| 04:20:27 | darkalfie | (this hard disk is soo much quieter then my laptop and i have to put to my ear. lol) |
| 04:20:30 | midknight2k3 | Find a similar power supply |
| 04:21:04 | PsycoXul | normal AA's won't work |
| 04:21:04 | ScottE | Good idea... |
| 04:21:15 | PsycoXul | they don't have the current |
| 04:21:24 | midknight2k3 | uhuh |
| 04:22:14 | ScottE | darkalfie: Do you have another set of NiMH AA's to try? That would be another good test |
| 04:22:20 | darkalfie | nope :( |
| 04:22:24 | darkalfie | i might get a set later |
| 04:22:32 | darkalfie | was gonna replace these 1500mah ones to 2000mah |
| 04:23:13 | ScottE | They are generally useful... We use them around here in everything electronic - GPS, CD players, the kids game boy, etc |
| 04:23:30 | darkalfie | yeah |
| 04:23:38 | darkalfie | i have 2 for my gameboy. lol.. but only 2 |
| 04:23:39 | ScottE | A good feeling to not spend money on batteries that have to be thrown away :) |
| 04:24:04 | ScottE | only 2... heh... |
| 04:24:08 | darkalfie | not worried bout batteries, more for my jukeboox :P |
| 04:24:35 | ScottE | Yep, but at least if it's just the batteries (or charger) it's easy and cheap to fix. |
| 04:25:01 | darkalfie | my charger is working fine i think, just tested it, its giving out a nice 10+v. maybe its my regulator in the jukebox |
| 04:25:10 | ScottE | (And I know you tested them, but still worth a try) |
| 04:25:15 | darkalfie | oh yar, if its my jukebox, i gotta send it back to USA ! i live in Singapore (asia) |
| 04:25:30 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 04:25:33 | midknight2k3 | Before you send it back |
| 04:25:39 | midknight2k3 | Do all you can to get the firmware off it |
| 04:25:46 | darkalfie | np. |
| 04:25:52 | midknight2k3 | They'll say "Oh you modified it we can't touch it now" |
| 04:25:53 | ScottE | Hey! That's not fair! They are made closer to you than the US! |
| 04:26:00 | ScottE | :-) |
| 04:26:00 | darkalfie | lol. yeah true |
| 04:26:01 | darkalfie | hahaa |
| 04:26:10 | darkalfie | but its dumb and it goes to US, then taiwan/china/etc |
| 04:26:22 | darkalfie | reminds me of my jornada720... |
| 04:26:28 | darkalfie | i bought it from US, cheaper then wat i get locally |
| 04:26:29 | midknight2k3 | Sticker on back reads: "MADE IN CHINA" |
| 04:26:35 | darkalfie | and when i opened it.. it said "MADE IN SINGAPORE" |
| 04:26:46 | ScottE | hahaha...LOL |
| 04:26:49 | darkalfie | i was like "!@#" its made locally but it costs more ! |
| 04:27:24 | darkalfie | gonnna take a walk to the electronic store near my office.. thanks for the help guys :) |
| 04:27:35 | darkalfie | brb.. the usb thingie kinda killed my usb port. lol need to reboot |
| 04:27:41 | midknight2k3 | No problem |
| 04:27:42 | ScottE | Good luck! |
| 04:27:47 | midknight2k3 | Come back soon |
| 04:27:53 | darkalfie | thanks :) |
| 04:27:59 | ScottE | I hope it's not a major failure |
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| 04:28:17 | midknight2k3 | The finger might be pointed at you Scott lol ;) |
| 04:28:30 | ScottE | Nooooo! |
| 04:28:31 | midknight2k3 | Not you but rockbox |
| 04:28:39 | midknight2k3 | just kidding |
| 04:30:25 | ScottE | I think I'm safe... |
| 04:30:52 | ScottE | I'm just a user too. :-) |
| 04:34:21 | midknight2k3 | Oh really |
| 04:35:27 | midknight2k3 | For some reason you seem like a Rockbox crew guy |
| 04:35:31 | ScottE | Nope! |
| 04:35:45 | MT | everyone is a user brother! |
| 04:35:58 | midknight2k3 | Scott lol seems like a 'rockbox guy' name |
| 04:36:31 | ScottE | I've actually only had my unit for 4 days... So I'm pretty far from being part of the crew, I think! |
| 04:37:10 | midknight2k3 | Her-Her |
| 04:37:11 | midknight2k3 | :) |
| 04:37:17 | ScottE | Although I did already know about rockbox long before - IN fact I put rockbox on there before I even transferred a single mp3 file to it |
| 04:37:33 | midknight2k3 | Cool |
| 04:37:42 | midknight2k3 | Recorder, Studio, FM recordeR? |
| 04:37:55 | ScottE | Even had a WPS file all ready to go... Guess I am a geek. :) |
| 04:38:00 | ScottE | A recorder 20GB... |
| 04:38:18 | midknight2k3 | Made your own WPS? |
| 04:38:49 | ScottE | WPS template for while playing screen - the one you can customize |
| 04:39:19 | midknight2k3 | Cool |
| 04:39:22 | midknight2k3 | I want to! |
| 04:39:30 | ScottE | With some work, it's possible to pack a lot more info on there. Cool stuff. |
| 04:40:24 | midknight2k3 | I feel like such a idiot, but |
| 04:40:27 | midknight2k3 | How do you? |
| 04:40:40 | midknight2k3 | general info, at rockbox,haxx.se? |
| 04:40:44 | ScottE | It's actually pretty well documented under the document link on the rockbox site |
| 04:41:02 | ScottE | But all you do is make a .wps file in a text editor, then save it to .rockbox. |
| 04:41:21 | ScottE | Boot the unit, and then 'play' your .wps file, and then that will become the default |
| 04:41:40 | ScottE | And you can look at some samples in your .rockbox dir (that came with 1.4) |
| 04:42:04 | ScottE | I think they should put up some more samples on the site though... |
| 04:43:00 | midknight2k3 | Yeaj might be neat |
| 04:50:41 | ScottE | I have to go.... Bye |
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| 05:01:36 | midknight2k3 | You all DEAD? |
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| 05:03:03 | midknight2k3 | Hey |
| 05:03:07 | darkalfie | heya :) |
| 05:03:12 | darkalfie | good news, i got it working.. |
| 05:03:17 | darkalfie | it was the charger (batteries are ok) |
| 05:03:21 | midknight2k3 | Excelletn! |
| 05:03:21 | darkalfie | i got a new ac-dc adapter |
| 05:03:29 | midknight2k3 | I expected |
| 05:03:34 | midknight2k3 | Thats god |
| 05:03:36 | darkalfie | coz the old one was a 110v (i had to use a transformer) |
| 05:03:46 | darkalfie | yup :) i can go back to playing around with rockbox.. |
| 05:03:53 | darkalfie | been wanting to add a new personal feature in |
| 05:03:55 | midknight2k3 | It's col |
| 05:03:57 | darkalfie | symbolic links :) |
| 05:04:03 | midknight2k3 | God Im tryping bad |
| 05:04:30 | midknight2k3 | Is it on rightnow? |
| 05:04:34 | darkalfie | yup |
| 05:04:40 | MT | how are you planning to do it darkalfie? |
| 05:04:42 | darkalfie | charging.. |
| 05:04:52 | darkalfie | MT: either support window's .lnk files, or create my own |
| 05:04:52 | midknight2k3 | Try 'wormbit' |
| 05:05:10 | darkalfie | i'll most prob use .lnk files if i can find the file format |
| 05:05:11 | MT | i ahd a look at windows .lnk format, its nasty |
| 05:05:12 | midknight2k3 | I like that game |
| 05:05:26 | darkalfie | midknight2k3: buttons on the ajr are a bit clunky, was testing out tetris the nite b4. |
| 05:05:37 | midknight2k3 | wormbit's AWESOME |
| 05:05:49 | MT | darkalfie: if you search through the mail archive, someone sent a link of the file format |
| 05:05:51 | darkalfie | will play it more later :) |
| 05:05:53 | midknight2k3 | I like it it's like snake on a cell phone but better |
| 05:05:56 | darkalfie | MT: cool, will dig thru it |
| 05:06:02 | midknight2k3 | You know, simple but fun |
| 05:06:08 | darkalfie | simple is good |
| 05:06:13 | darkalfie | someone should write pong. |
| 05:06:14 | midknight2k3 | fun is fun |
| 05:06:48 | midknight2k3 | A 'Snake 2' game would be ok |
| 05:07:15 | midknight2k3 | lol Look at us squabbling over games when they'r working out bugs and making firmware |
| 05:07:39 | darkalfie | hahaaa |
| 05:07:55 | midknight2k3 | Glad you got that problem worked out though |
| 05:08:45 | darkalfie | yeap.. |
| 05:08:57 | darkalfie | now to keep it away from my gf. lol |
| 05:09:04 | midknight2k3 | Oh boy |
| 05:09:25 | darkalfie | :P |
| 05:09:30 | midknight2k3 | But under 'Demos' snows and cube are pretty cool |
| 05:09:36 | darkalfie | snows is fun |
| 05:09:42 | darkalfie | they should put snows + filename together |
| 05:09:51 | darkalfie | i.e. mini-screesaver while playing |
| 05:10:01 | midknight2k3 | cool if it was configurable |
| 05:10:08 | darkalfie | matter of time :) |
| 05:10:14 | darkalfie | i'll wait for them to fix most of the bugs first.. |
| 05:10:14 | midknight2k3 | Oh oh! |
| 05:10:17 | darkalfie | i guess i should stick to 1.4 |
| 05:10:22 | darkalfie | rather then daily builds |
| 05:10:48 | midknight2k3 | TTGH |
| 05:10:58 | midknight2k3 | oops |
| 05:11:30 | midknight2k3 | THEY should make it so it snows the filename letters |
| 05:13:05 | darkalfie | woo. good idea ! |
| 05:13:09 | darkalfie | woops, brb. reboot again. |
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| 05:25:12 | midknight2k3 | hello |
| 05:28:48 | darkalfie | heya |
| 05:29:54 | midknight2k3 | ROCKBOX"S PRETTY COOL EH? |
| 05:30:00 | midknight2k3 | what the? |
| 05:30:14 | midknight2k3 | my caps lock key is messing up |
| 05:30:24 | darkalfie | so was ur typing |
| 05:30:45 | midknight2k3 | what? |
| 05:30:49 | PsycoXul | that looks like a stuck shift key |
| 05:31:09 | PsycoXul | capslock doesn't do " |
| 05:31:11 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 05:31:35 | darkalfie | i'm looking for info on how to configure the screen info when mp3s are playing |
| 05:31:43 | midknight2k3 | yeah some run in with stikcykeys |
| 05:32:05 | darkalfie | oh. found it.. |
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| 05:44:18 | midknight2k3 | making a WPS? |
| 05:48:47 | midknight2k3 | dark alfie? |
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| 05:59:19 | corpcow | hello all :) anyone alive? |
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| 07:12:43 | gronse3 | Hello? |
| 07:14:32 | gronse3 | which file allows for whole disk random play on the recorder |
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| 08:14:37 | Zagor | any fm owner here? |
| 08:18:58 | Zagor | I'd like bug #701356 verified |
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| 08:39:32 | matsl | Zagor: Good morning! |
| 08:39:35 | Zagor | hi |
| 08:40:16 | matsl | How's the release going. Linus said yesterday we were waiting for him. |
| 08:42:10 | Zagor | yeah. it's about time to refreeze soon |
| 08:42:24 | Zagor | we need to test his code a bit more, but that's about it |
| 08:42:59 | matsl | ok. so the best I can do at the moment is to test then. |
| 08:44:16 | Zagor | yes |
| 08:44:29 | matsl | :-( |
| 08:44:38 | Zagor | possibly think about how the player keyboard can get cursor movement, like we just added for recorder yesterday |
| 08:45:31 | matsl | it already has, but i don't know how the recorder keyboard works |
| 08:46:30 | Zagor | can it move, so you can add/del characters in the middle of the string? |
| 08:46:35 | matsl | jupp |
| 08:46:40 | Zagor | ok, good |
| 08:46:59 | Zagor | we need good docs for the keyboards |
| 08:47:05 | matsl | ahh... |
| 08:48:02 | matsl | what struck me as a problem is that the cursor initially is at the beginning of the string. Maybe it should be at the end when you start editing. |
| 08:48:16 | Zagor | yes. the recorder keyboard puts it at the end |
| 08:48:36 | Zagor | i think that's better |
| 08:49:18 | matsl | Well with the cfg-file writer it would be better since the beginning isn't interesting. |
| 08:50:15 | Zagor | exactly. I think rename is also more interesting in the end than the beginning |
| 08:50:34 | alfieAWAY | quick qn: how long does an empty AJR20gb take to charge to full ? |
| 08:50:53 | matsl | Maybe each app should be able to select. But the end is a good default. I'll look into it. |
| 08:51:26 | Zagor | alfieAWAY: depends on your charger. stock charger, I'd say 8-12 hours |
| 08:53:16 | adi|home | zagor.. i ment to ask.. are we for or against the full line cursor approach... |
| 08:53:45 | adi|home | i remember you saying something about it being too slow.. im just not 100% sure if i remember correctly |
| 08:53:59 | Zagor | I'm for it if performance is acceptable |
| 08:54:11 | adi|home | nods |
| 08:55:03 | Zagor | joaquim "cheated" a bit by assuming 8-bit high characters, so that's not a valid test case |
| 08:55:24 | Zagor | however I guess if the implementation is elegant enough, we could have it configurable. "fast" or "pretty" :-) |
| 08:57:18 | Zagor | it will be 2.1 though |
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| 09:01:29 | adi|home | i agree :) |
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| 09:12:42 | | Join Bagder [0] (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) |
| 09:13:07 | Bagder | 'ello all you good people |
| 09:13:35 | Zagor | hi bagder. i'll be needing that cvs change list again. |
| 09:13:48 | >>> | "expadd 2.0=The upcoming release. Don't ask when it comes, it'll come when its ready." by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) |
| 09:13:58 | >>> | "pass" used by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) [snoop prevented] |
| 09:14:11 | Bagder | right |
| 09:14:17 | Bagder | I'll dig around |
| 09:14:30 | >>> | "sview" by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) |
| 09:14:47 | Bagder | Zagor: can you add this hostmask to my user on logbot? |
| 09:15:11 | Zagor | ok |
| 09:15:26 | >>> | "pass" used by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) [snoop prevented] |
| 09:15:31 | >>> | "help" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 09:15:35 | >>> | "cmd" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 09:15:54 | >>> | "help usermod" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 09:16:20 | >>> | "usermod bagder -P -" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 09:16:44 | >>> | "sview bagder" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 09:17:16 | >>> | "usermod bagder -P Bagder!~dast@*.contactor.se" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 09:17:23 | >>> | "sview zagor" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 09:17:23 | adi|home | what i miss? |
| 09:17:35 | adi|home | about the change logs? |
| 09:19:10 | >>> | "usermod -P - bagder" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 09:19:15 | >>> | "sview bagder" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 09:19:25 | >>> | "sview" by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) |
| 09:19:38 | >>> | "expadd 2.0=The upcoming release. Don't ask when it comes, it'll come when its ready." by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) |
| 09:19:42 | >>> | "pass" used by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) [snoop prevented] |
| 09:20:03 | Zagor | i need the logs since 1.4 to put together 2.0 release notes |
| 09:20:30 | >>> | "expadd 2.0=The upcoming release. Don't ask when it comes, it'll come when its ready." by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) |
| 09:20:32 | Schnueff | moin |
| 09:20:40 | #>> | "explan 2.0 for us now please?" by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) |
| 09:20:45 | #>> | "explain 2.0 for us now please?" by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) |
| 09:20:55 | Bagder | ah, thanks |
| 09:21:09 | Zagor | min Schnueff |
| 09:21:14 | Zagor | moin even :-) |
| 09:21:20 | Schnueff | logbot explain min for us now please? |
| 09:21:25 | Schnueff | *sigh* |
| 09:21:26 | Schnueff | :) |
| 09:21:54 | dwihno | logbot explain starka såsen for us now please? |
| 09:22:01 | dwihno | :-( |
| 09:22:41 | Schnueff | logbot explain 1.4 for us now please? |
| 09:22:52 | Schnueff | hm doesnt know much |
| 09:23:55 | Bagder | and he doesn't speak in public when mere mortals address him ;-) |
| 09:24:03 | Schnueff | good idea :) |
| 09:24:07 | Schnueff | shybot |
| 09:25:30 | | Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) |
| 09:25:36 | quelsaruk | buenos dia |
| 09:25:39 | quelsaruk | dias |
| 09:25:40 | quelsaruk | :P |
| 09:26:03 | Bagder | hi |
| 09:26:46 | Bagder | hm |
| 09:26:52 | Bagder | my allcommits script is stupid |
| 09:27:23 | Zagor | matsl, or someone, can you merge the danish lang update? http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=648417&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 09:27:30 | Zagor | or wait, i'll do it |
| 09:31:21 | quelsaruk | Zagor: you'll get espanol.lang in 15 minutes.. |
| 09:31:22 | quelsaruk | i hope |
| 09:31:59 | Zagor | ok |
| 09:34:32 | Bagder | Zagor: cvs -Q log -d "2002-10-11<now" > dump |
| 09:34:51 | Bagder | my script seems to bug quite a bit and I don't have time atm to fix it |
| 09:35:00 | Zagor | ok |
| 09:37:24 | Bagder | kjell and I are off to demo our webapp for sll this afternoon |
| 09:38:55 | dwihno | baila, quel! |
| 09:39:00 | dwihno | sll? |
| 09:39:16 | Bagder | stockholm läns landsting |
| 09:39:25 | Zagor | cool |
| 09:39:40 | dwihno | Yay! :D |
| 09:39:43 | dwihno | Webapps for all! |
| 09:40:40 | Zagor | how many days did it take? |
| 09:40:57 | Bagder | 3.5 days to a fully working version, but now we're adjusting it slightly |
| 09:41:05 | Bagder | so we're on ~5 work days |
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| 09:43:17 | Zagor | lazy bums! ;) |
| 09:48:02 | adi|home | do we have a strtok at our disposal? |
| 09:48:08 | Bagder | yeps |
| 09:48:09 | Bagder | strtok_r |
| 09:48:14 | adi|home | cool. thanks |
| 09:57:41 | quelsaruk | great.. spanish hasn't got a meaning for fade :( |
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| 10:01:51 | quelsaruk | um... |
| 10:02:37 | quelsaruk | why stereo narrow has 2 strings (one for player and one for recorder), while stereo wide has just one? |
| 10:04:12 | quelsaruk | i suppose that the person that made it saw that "stereo wide" fitted in both player and recorder, but maybe the complete translation doesn't fit the player (and need a shorter translation, like stereo narrow) |
| 10:15:15 | * | quelsaruk is talking to the wall |
| 10:15:25 | quelsaruk | hi wall! how are you today? |
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| 10:23:42 | * | wall can't answer. Wall is stoned. |
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| 10:24:45 | quelsaruk | then i will talk to my goats, my precious goats... |
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| 10:25:50 | #>> | "explain quelsaruk" by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) |
| 10:26:29 | quelsaruk | i will have to copyright my life ;) |
| 10:26:51 | quelsaruk | Bagder: did you read what i said about stereo narrow and wide? |
| 10:27:00 | Bagder | yes |
| 10:27:25 | quelsaruk | don't you think there sould also be a LANG_STEREO_WIDE_PLAYER ? |
| 10:27:29 | quelsaruk | i use recorder |
| 10:27:38 | Bagder | possibly, I haven't given it any thoughts |
| 10:28:14 | quelsaruk | of course, just an idea |
| 10:29:00 | quelsaruk | one of my neurons activated while i was translating new strings, and told me "hey! this may be a little error" |
| 10:29:44 | matsl | quelsaruk: You were talking about translations (Player, Recorder) I guess we need to go over this at times. Some have specific player translations but the text scrolls on the player so it isn't really needed. Others have only one but where the text doesn't scroll. etc. There is no info about this in the .lang-file thus it is hard to get right. |
| 10:30:16 | Schnueff | maybe a function which heuristically abbreviates words in any language would be cool :) |
| 10:31:01 | quelsaruk | matsl: of course, i just had this thought as stereo narrow has a player and a recorder string |
| 10:31:09 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 10:31:23 | quelsaruk | as i don't have a player i don't know if that string scrolls or not |
| 10:31:30 | matsl | I know. I saw the same thing when doingsvenska.lang. |
| 10:31:52 | matsl | I have a player and even I don't know until I have tested it. ;-) |
| 10:32:14 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 10:32:42 | matsl | If you are clever you might know by examining the code but do translator do that? |
| 10:33:10 | quelsaruk | i could examine the code, but i just wanted to make a quick translation |
| 10:34:34 | matsl | I do like this. Try to do the best of what is in the .lang file. Then I suggest someone goes over all translations and try to find spots where there might be a problem. Maybe even a script could do it. |
| 10:36:24 | quelsaruk | as you may know there are some strings that are different lines of the same phrase, for example "Playlist" and "buffer is full". In spanish you have to swap tranlations to make it coherent. If you read the code, or if you see what happens in your jukebox you can translate that correctly, but if you just translate strings.. you get weird translations |
| 10:36:25 | matsl | unrelated: I try to get automatic connect working with XChat 1.8.10 (RH8.0) but cab |
| 10:36:50 | matsl | ... can't get it to work with multiple channels. Anyone know how to do it? |
| 10:37:13 | quelsaruk | i use kvirc :) |
| 10:37:33 | matsl | quelsaruk: interesting *sigh* |
| 10:37:39 | matsl | ;-) |
| 10:38:32 | quelsaruk | time for a coffee, or two (really tired) |
| 10:38:39 | quelsaruk | cu l8r |
| 10:38:43 | matsl | cu |
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| 12:12:05 | Bagder | I love mozilla's context search ability |
| 12:13:30 | Bagder | YELLOW BUILD! |
| 12:13:47 | langhaarrocker | found in context search of mozilla? |
| 12:14:08 | Bagder | I'm just rambling random things ;-) |
| 12:14:16 | Bagder | I should go eat instead |
| 12:14:44 | langhaarrocker | me, too: http://www.dosis.uni-dortmund.de/Mensa/ |
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| 12:32:12 | Zagor | the build table is behaving oddly. it displays wrong cvs comments for each build. |
| 12:34:39 | Zagor | did 1.4 have the peak meter? |
| 12:36:29 | Zagor | it did |
| 12:47:09 | Bagder | the build table gets a few empty change logs due to the cvs shakiness |
| 12:47:55 | Zagor | ok |
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| 12:58:20 | dwihno | One of the things new in version 2 is the WPS code cleanup |
| 12:58:24 | dwihno | (scroll fixing!) |
| 12:59:30 | Zagor | any FM owner here? |
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| 13:02:37 | Zagor | I'd like to test the RTC wakeup |
| 13:03:22 | Zagor | http://rockbox.haxx.se/wakeup_fm.ajz |
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| 13:38:05 | * | quelsaruk needs a word that match fade and another for stereo narrow |
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| 13:38:58 | Zagor | quelsaruk: what do you call lamps that fade? |
| 13:39:34 | langhaarrocker | dschinni? |
| 13:39:36 | Schnueff | lamps |
| 13:39:38 | Schnueff | :) |
| 13:40:17 | quelsaruk | Zagor: we don't have such a technology ;) |
| 13:40:37 | quelsaruk | we use a club or a hammer to turn off lamps :) |
| 13:40:41 | langhaarrocker | what about dawn? |
| 13:40:44 | Zagor | haha |
| 13:41:25 | Schnueff | why bother .. close your eyes and the lamp itself vanishes |
| 13:41:45 | quelsaruk | for example, i have a maranzt cd, and has the "fade" option, in spanish manual, they call it fade |
| 13:42:24 | quelsaruk | if a hi-fi company doesn't know how to translate that word.... |
| 13:42:40 | langhaarrocker | nah, that might be marketing. |
| 13:42:55 | quelsaruk | of course... |
| 13:43:17 | quelsaruk | also, stereo narrow sounds weird in spanish |
| 13:43:42 | langhaarrocker | babelfish.altavista.com says descolórese |
| 13:43:52 | quelsaruk | that's for clothes |
| 13:44:17 | quelsaruk | when the colour starts to be clearer... |
| 13:44:34 | quelsaruk | i don't know how to explain that... but i hope you understand me |
| 13:44:35 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 13:44:35 | langhaarrocker | like jeans that never die? |
| 13:44:42 | quelsaruk | yups :) |
| 13:44:49 | quelsaruk | like jeans ;) |
| 13:45:02 | quelsaruk | but sound is not a kind of jean |
| 13:45:12 | quelsaruk | jeans |
| 13:45:44 | quelsaruk | i'm really hungry, time for lunch |
| 13:45:54 | quelsaruk | i'll think about this while eating |
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| 13:46:32 | langhaarrocker | http://intertran.tranexp.com/ says: extracto |
| 13:47:36 | Schnueff | desvanézcase |
| 13:47:37 | Schnueff | :) |
| 13:48:18 | quel|lunch | when a lamp fades, the light "se desvanece" |
| 13:48:46 | quel|lunch | sound can "desvanecerse" |
| 13:48:48 | quel|lunch | but.. |
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| 13:49:56 | langhaarrocker | Bagder can too, it seems |
| 13:50:05 | quel|lunch | ;) |
| 13:50:07 | quel|lunch | ok |
| 13:50:10 | quel|lunch | going home |
| 13:50:13 | quel|lunch | cu l8r |
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| 13:56:53 | Archo | Hallo |
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| 14:02:19 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: do you automatically relogin or is that process not automated yet? |
| 14:02:54 | Zagor | it's automated |
| 14:03:36 | Zagor | the problem is my connection hangs for a few minutes every now and then. and then the irc server kicks me for not responding. |
| 14:04:15 | langhaarrocker | I see |
| 14:13:47 | Zagor | today is 4 months since 1.4 |
| 14:14:11 | Zagor | uh, 5 months... |
| 14:14:49 | langhaarrocker | Does that mean we have to wait for another month so that the sub-release-number represents the months since the last release? |
| 14:14:57 | Zagor | haha |
| 14:16:47 | Zagor | http://rockbox.haxx.se/download/rockbox-2.0-notes.txt |
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| 14:32:26 | langhaarrocker | I like the line "- Recording" best. It tastes like understatement. |
| 14:33:54 | Zagor | yeah, that was the idea |
| 14:36:19 | langhaarrocker | Will there be a feature bloat like this again? |
| 14:36:33 | Zagor | how do you mean? |
| 14:37:03 | Schnueff | s/its'/its/ |
| 14:37:20 | Schnueff | fine list :) |
| 14:38:33 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: Now that there are about all basic features included the headroom for new features shrinks. I feel that future releases won't be able to add as much usability as this. |
| 14:39:04 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: with plugins we'll be able to add lots of stuff |
| 14:39:21 | Schnueff | maybe 3.0 contains all the nodo's ;) |
| 14:39:25 | langhaarrocker | And bindable keys. Maybe next weekend. |
| 14:39:31 | Zagor | really? |
| 14:40:15 | langhaarrocker | I'll need someones help for makefiles and then I think I can offer something functional as a serious discussion base. |
| 14:40:27 | Zagor | btw, I'm thinking of making the ON+PLAY screen a proper menu. how do you feel about that? |
| 14:40:28 | Schnueff | btw: plugins which are not meant to run permanently could also take memory from the mp3 buffer, couldnt they? |
| 14:40:58 | Zagor | Schnueff: yes, theoretically. but for starterts plugins will use dedicated ram. |
| 14:41:02 | Schnueff | k |
| 14:43:14 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: concerning menus and quick-screens I think that all this will change with key bindings. The concepts of key bindings and menu bindings are the same. |
| 14:46:22 | langhaarrocker | (I assume that you are talking about the on+play in browser mode) |
| 14:51:51 | Zagor | yes |
| 14:54:36 | langhaarrocker | I like the idea of bundling file operations in a separate menu. It probably would include something like 'create XING header'? |
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| 15:05:53 | Zagor | yes. and "view in hex editor", and a bunch of other things |
| 15:06:11 | Schnueff | heh, u need hex editor on rockbox? |
| 15:06:30 | Zagor | everyone needs a hex editor! |
| 15:06:50 | langhaarrocker | ok: lets start a vi vs emac vs notepad flame war! |
| 15:06:56 | Schnueff | vim! |
| 15:07:03 | Schnueff | :) |
| 15:07:42 | Schnueff | a frame editor, of course, is needed :) |
| 15:08:33 | Hes | http://hackles.org/strips/cartoon284.png |
| 15:08:40 | Hes | (slightly relevant to the topic) |
| 15:09:11 | Zagor | :-) |
| 15:09:19 | Schnueff | heh |
| 15:09:20 | Schnueff | http://lanzarotta.tripod.com/images/viman.gif |
| 15:09:34 | Schnueff | may fav strip on the topic :) |
| 15:09:37 | langhaarrocker | Never saw a "Quork" editor. |
| 15:10:15 | dwihno | http://www.hackles.org/strips/cartoon284.png - that's my fav' ;) |
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| 15:43:59 | tracktheripper | hi |
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| 16:00:24 | Nomad__ | just sticking my head in to say Rockbox is extremely nice |
| 16:01:10 | langhaarrocker | :) |
| 16:01:23 | Nomad__ | put it on my studio10 and loving it |
| 16:02:22 | Nomad__ | not sure I want to try the Hardware mod to install more ram though |
| 16:03:41 | langhaarrocker | Usually I'm like geeking with hardware but in this case I don't see the point. I rarely use the jukebox on the road so long that I run out of power. |
| 16:04:18 | Nomad__ | I use it when riding my motorcycle to work especially |
| 16:04:33 | Nomad__ | at work sitting on my desk it's fine but on the bike I could use the bigger buffer |
| 16:07:15 | Nomad__ | woulda been nice if I could jsut stick a 256Meg dimm in it :> |
| 16:07:37 | langhaarrocker | There have been thoughts of replacing the hd with a flash module. |
| 16:09:03 | ScottE | More buffer RAM would also help with bettery life, since it wouldn't have to spin the HD up so often... |
| 16:09:54 | langhaarrocker | I thought that battery life was the main motivation for the 8MB ram mod. |
| 16:10:33 | ScottE | I'm sure it was! Any idea what a difference it made? |
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| 16:11:14 | |Melkor| | hi |
| 16:11:24 | langhaarrocker | I remember that something was in the mailing list - but I forgot the figures. |
| 16:11:43 | Nomad__ | more ram would be good for both problems actually |
| 16:11:48 | |Melkor| | yesterday i've bought my archos jukebox recorder 20 :) |
| 16:11:55 | Nomad__ | just wish my soldering skills didn't suck so much |
| 16:12:08 | langhaarrocker | Melkor: lucky you. I want USB 2, too |
| 16:12:12 | |Melkor| | :) |
| 16:12:18 | Nomad__ | any idea how big of a harddrive you can put in a jukebox studio 10? (max size?) |
| 16:12:20 | |Melkor| | it's fucking fast :PP |
| 16:12:33 | langhaarrocker | Nomad: as big as available |
| 16:12:55 | ScottE | I want USB2.0 too! I have a recorder 20, but only USB1. :-( |
| 16:12:55 | Nomad__ | no limit via firmware/hardware for things like cyls, etc? |
| 16:13:03 | langhaarrocker | no |
| 16:13:14 | Nomad__ | I've got a 40gig drive if I can find it from an old laptop |
| 16:13:18 | Nomad__ | very nice |
| 16:13:58 | langhaarrocker | Then hope that it is 9.5 mm high and not 12 mm. |
| 16:14:20 | Nomad__ | it's from a Vaio so it has a very small profile |
| 16:18:49 | ScottE | Ah... There it is... the 8MB mod added about an hour to battery life. |
| 16:19:39 | ScottE | But upped intervals between disk access to >7 minutes. That's nice |
| 16:19:54 | ScottE | (at 128kbps) |
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| 16:32:14 | quelsaruk | re-hi |
| 16:32:25 | Schnueff | wb quelsaruk |
| 16:32:34 | langhaarrocker | mäh! |
| 16:35:58 | quelsaruk | umm |
| 16:36:13 | quelsaruk | i think i found out a bug, or maybe another goat :) |
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| 16:37:03 | quelsaruk | if you have fade on, play a file, press pause (it fades) press stop (fades again???) |
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| 16:37:35 | quelsaruk | am i getting even more crazy?? |
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| 16:37:57 | Schnueff | so paused -> stop should not fade |
| 16:38:03 | Schnueff | sounds reasonable |
| 16:38:05 | Nomad__ | I'm hoping this is a stupid question. Saturday I ordered a "remote" from archos that'll let me control it while it's in my pocket. That should work fine with my studio10 and rockbox right? |
| 16:38:31 | langhaarrocker | yes |
| 16:38:45 | Nomad__ | ok, cool |
| 16:38:54 | Nomad__ | just thought about that |
| 16:39:02 | quelsaruk | Schnueff: if you pause, it's logical that it fades, but if you're not listening to anything, why should music fade if you press stop? |
| 16:40:10 | Nomad__ | wonder if I can find someone who'll buy my Sony Vaio or trade for another Archos |
| 16:40:15 | quelsaruk | and second fade increment sound, i mean, if you pause, sound decrement till mute, and if you press stop it increses sound from mute till curent volume |
| 16:40:46 | Schnueff | yes, i mean, your 'complaint' sounds reasonable |
| 16:41:26 | quelsaruk | i understood you |
| 16:41:42 | quelsaruk | but i wanted to explain myself better |
| 16:42:21 | langhaarrocker | Quelsaruk: I assume you use the current daily build? I think Zagor said this problem had been fixed somewhen. |
| 16:42:22 | quelsaruk | great |
| 16:42:27 | quelsaruk | now i can't reproduce the bug |
| 16:42:30 | quelsaruk | :( |
| 16:43:28 | quelsaruk | seems as my jukebox recogniced now the new build |
| 16:43:35 | quelsaruk | or the demon said bye |
| 16:43:37 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 16:43:56 | langhaarrocker | lucky goat. |
| 16:43:59 | Nomad__ | Can you increase the timeout on skips or such before giving up? |
| 16:44:40 | Schnueff | in the source maybe |
| 16:44:51 | Schnueff | Nomad__: did u play around with the 'Anti-skip setting' ? |
| 16:45:13 | Nomad__ | nope, not yet |
| 16:45:16 | Nomad__ | didn't see them |
| 16:45:23 | Schnueff | this makes the buffer fill earlier |
| 16:45:25 | Nomad__ | is it in the menu or in the config files? |
| 16:45:34 | Schnueff | in the menu |
| 16:45:38 | Nomad__ | my problem is vibration when riding my motorcycle |
| 16:45:41 | Schnueff | (config file should be too) |
| 16:46:00 | Nomad__ | under general or sound? not-seeing anti-skip |
| 16:46:03 | Schnueff | w8 |
| 16:46:24 | Nomad__ | I'm using the 1.4 from the web page |
| 16:46:26 | Schnueff | ah ok |
| 16:46:34 | Schnueff | sorry, it's only in the daily builds |
| 16:46:48 | Nomad__ | any eta before a new release? |
| 16:47:05 | langhaarrocker | soon |
| 16:47:16 | Schnueff | yeah, something like this |
| 16:47:37 | Nomad__ | langhaarrocker: heh, define soon. where I work soon is in the next 6 months :> |
| 16:47:38 | langhaarrocker | A feature freeze has been anounced and now it's some time for bug fixes |
| 16:47:59 | Nomad__ | don't ask how we define "long term planning on production changes".... |
| 16:48:03 | quelsaruk | just a stupid question.. |
| 16:48:15 | Schnueff | and its even the second feature freeze, so chances are really good ;) |
| 16:48:19 | quelsaruk | how can you listen to music while riding your motorcycle? |
| 16:48:20 | langhaarrocker | I'd assume it's rather a thing of weeks than months |
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| 16:48:45 | Bagder | rehi |
| 16:48:49 | quelsaruk | re hi Bagder |
| 16:50:21 | Nomad__ | ok |
| 16:50:29 | Nomad__ | I may play with compiling my own just for the heck of it. |
| 16:50:35 | Nomad__ | never done something like that before |
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| 16:50:55 | langhaarrocker | you can donwload daily builds if you want to avoid the hassle. |
| 16:51:19 | Nomad__ | actually just saw that. very nice |
| 16:51:52 | Nomad__ | I'm guessing for a "studio 10" I'd want the player mod. There's a "line in" but no way to record I know of |
| 16:52:00 | | Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|portuguese (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) |
| 16:52:09 | quel|portuguese | time to learn another language :) |
| 16:52:12 | quel|portuguese | cu l8r |
| 16:52:46 | langhaarrocker | quel: how does fade translate to in portuguese? |
| 16:53:05 | Schnueff | heh |
| 16:53:09 | quel|portuguese | fadinho ;) |
| 16:53:21 | quel|portuguese | it's like gallego |
| 16:53:57 | Bagder | fadinho, is dwihno fading? |
| 16:54:15 | Bagder | "is that" even |
| 16:56:13 | Nomad__ | langhaarrocker: should I run the "Daily build" at the top of the page or the "target build" below that? |
| 16:57:06 | Nomad__ | daily looks like source not compiled |
| 16:57:09 | Nomad__ | so nevermind |
| 16:57:13 | langhaarrocker | why not use the "bleeding edge" |
| 16:57:50 | Nomad__ | the big warning at the bottom :> |
| 16:57:59 | Nomad__ | why not, I'll give it a try though |
| 16:58:16 | langhaarrocker | To be honest: that applies to all daily builds as well. |
| 16:58:25 | Nomad__ | heh |
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| 17:03:14 | Nomad__ | ok, bleeding edge installed, I'll let you know how the anti-skip works on the bike |
| 17:03:23 | langhaarrocker | :) |
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| 17:38:11 | Nomad__ | ok, I need some Viking art |
| 17:38:38 | Nomad__ | see if I can find something good to put on my Tank |
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| 19:51:02 | quel|portuguese | a esposa do zagor e a cunhada do Bagder |
| 19:51:18 | quel|portuguese | (hey! i can speak portuguese, like in matrix ;) |
| 19:51:33 | Bagder | :-) |
| 19:51:41 | * | quel|portuguese unplugs himself from the computer |
| 19:52:19 | quel|portuguese | well.. that should be é a cunhada do... |
| 19:52:31 | quel|portuguese | e == and, é == is |
| 19:53:46 | quel|portuguese | how bored must i be to say all these nonsense phrases :) |
| 19:54:32 | Schnueff | heh |
| 19:54:49 | Schnueff | better translate el fader;) |
| 19:57:18 | quel|portuguese | i'll get that translation... |
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| 19:57:20 | quel|portuguese | someday |
| 19:57:31 | quel|portuguese | ;) |
| 19:57:51 | quel|portuguese | ummm |
| 19:58:21 | quel|portuguese | does anyone have a suse distro ? |
| 19:58:31 | Bagder | not me |
| 19:58:41 | Schnueff | not me |
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| 19:59:18 | quel|portuguese | :( |
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| 20:00:06 | quel|portuguese | i can't get RH running with vmware and someone told me that he was able with suse, but i can't find iso images on the web |
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| 20:04:38 | jzoss | Hi all! =) |
| 20:04:53 | Bagder | hi |
| 20:04:58 | jzoss | Quel: I've worked some with SuSE at work |
| 20:05:18 | jzoss | You can't find ISOs, 'cause they want you to buy their distro-package. |
| 20:05:41 | jzoss | But you can still get SuSE for free. You burn off just a base-install, and then FTP-install everything else. |
| 20:05:46 | jzoss | It's a pain, but functional. |
| 20:06:59 | quel|portuguese | but all i can get from suse ftp is the strange "demo-cd" |
| 20:07:08 | quel|portuguese | that one that runs from the cd |
| 20:07:13 | jzoss | Hmmm.. Lemme check. |
| 20:07:22 | quel|portuguese | of course :) |
| 20:10:19 | jzoss | Ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/current/boot/boot.iso |
| 20:10:22 | jzoss | I think is what you want... |
| 20:10:46 | quel|portuguese | downloading |
| 20:10:47 | jzoss | Or http://www.suse.de/en/private/download/suse_linux/index.html, for reference. |
| 20:10:55 | quel|portuguese | thx |
| 20:10:58 | jzoss | np |
| 20:14:16 | quel|portuguese | i love my i-net conection :) |
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| 20:23:04 | loftzon | Hello |
| 20:23:19 | Bagder | hi |
| 20:23:39 | loftzon | Do you know if there is a mailing list for Archos Multimedia player? |
| 20:23:49 | loftzon | All i could find was Rockbox for the recorder and player |
| 20:23:51 | Bagder | there's a yahoo group/list, yes |
| 20:24:00 | loftzon | groups.yahoo.com ? |
| 20:24:07 | loftzon | especially for Archos Multimedia? |
| 20:24:13 | Bagder | hang on |
| 20:24:36 | quel|portuguese | yahoogroups.com |
| 20:24:45 | Bagder | JBMMFirmware |
| 20:24:55 | quel|portuguese | i think :) |
| 20:24:57 | Bagder | but I figure its mainly the guys wanting to write a new firmware for it |
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| 20:25:17 | loftzon | thanks |
| 20:25:54 | Bagder | there's also one on funmp3players.com |
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| 20:26:16 | loftzon | ah k |
| 20:26:27 | loftzon | Do you know if USB 2.0 comes with AJMM ? |
| 20:26:43 | Bagder | I don't know |
| 20:26:46 | loftzon | i just bought AJMM 20 and connected it to my USB port, but i don't know if it's 1.1 or 2.0 :/ |
| 20:27:06 | Bagder | transfer data to it |
| 20:27:15 | Bagder | fast => 2.0, slow => 1.1 :-) |
| 20:27:34 | Bagder | 1.1 is painfully slow for much data |
| 20:27:54 | quel|portuguese | Bagder: i have a strange case for an expert technopriest.. i'm not able to understand the problem |
| 20:28:04 | loftzon | hmm really? |
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| 20:28:09 | loftzon | than mine must be 2.0.. |
| 20:28:14 | quel|portuguese | i have an external case (similar to dwihno's one) |
| 20:28:24 | loftzon | well i'm about 5 - 10 seconds with 100mb file |
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| 20:29:15 | quel|portuguese | it's usb 2.0, but if i connect it to an usb 2.0 windows can't detect it. If i connect it to usb 1.1 it works great. :( |
| 20:29:19 | tracktheripper | Hi Fellow Rockboxers |
| 20:29:36 | quel|portuguese | any idea Bagder? |
| 20:29:38 | Bagder | hi track |
| 20:29:48 | tracktheripper | hi Badger and Quel |
| 20:29:51 | jzoss | hiya |
| 20:30:00 | tracktheripper | Im gonna postpone the manual until version 2.0 is finally released |
| 20:30:01 | Bagder | quel|portuguese: not really, I'm not the usb guru to talk to. Zagor might have an idea. |
| 20:30:35 | quel|portuguese | or linus |
| 20:30:43 | quel|portuguese | hi tracktheripper |
| 20:31:00 | tracktheripper | Badger did Linus show you my manual I started to work on? |
| 20:31:10 | Bagder | nope |
| 20:31:15 | Bagder | been busy |
| 20:31:18 | tracktheripper | ohh |
| 20:31:25 | Bagder | darn work ;-9 |
| 20:31:26 | quel|portuguese | i have to plug it to my laptop to use the ireware connection so i get fast transfer rate :) |
| 20:31:30 | tracktheripper | well Im going to postpone it until version 2.0 is released |
| 20:31:48 | tracktheripper | I don't like the idea of writing for daily builds since they can change from time to time |
| 20:32:13 | quel|portuguese | why don't yyou start writing it now for version 2.0? |
| 20:32:36 | Bagder | 2.0 will be *very* similar to the daily builds of today |
| 20:32:48 | Schnueff | apart from bug fixes :) |
| 20:32:55 | tracktheripper | because with the Daily Builds they can vary as features are added or removed and they may end up contradicting what I type |
| 20:33:06 | quel|portuguese | i mean... AFAIK theres a rockbox freeze, so no new features are added |
| 20:33:06 | Schnueff | no, there's a feature freeze again |
| 20:33:13 | tracktheripper | so therefore If i wait till version 2.0 I know that its something firm to write for |
| 20:33:16 | quel|portuguese | i was faster Schnueff ;) |
| 20:33:20 | Schnueff | bah |
| 20:33:22 | Schnueff | ;] |
| 20:33:27 | quel|portuguese | 1 second |
| 20:33:34 | quel|portuguese | spanish guys are faster |
| 20:33:35 | Schnueff | but u didn't change windows in between ;] |
| 20:33:42 | quel|portuguese | bah... |
| 20:33:44 | Bagder | hahaha |
| 20:33:44 | loftzon | If i have USB 2.0 it goes in at the bottom of the AJMM? |
| 20:34:00 | Bagder | I wouldn't know |
| 20:34:00 | tracktheripper | but its not to say Ive forgotton im gonna carry on researching the features and wait for version 2, which enables me to write someting more consice |
| 20:34:03 | tracktheripper | concise |
| 20:37:57 | tracktheripper | you think an FM recorder is bad with propriety batteries buy a Creative Labs Zen |
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| 20:41:40 | Bagder | time to go |
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| 21:19:19 | tracktheripper | erm, who has written the software FM tuner for the plain Recorders? |
| 21:19:20 | tracktheripper | heehee:-) |
| 21:19:35 | barka`coding | huh/ |
| 21:20:15 | tracktheripper | lol someone sent that as a Feature Request sometime ago |
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| 21:20:54 | tracktheripper | surprised it hasnt been rejected |
| 21:20:55 | tracktheripper | heehee |
| 21:21:04 | tracktheripper | so in that case it should be possible :-P |
| 21:25:34 | quelsaruk | bye |
| 21:25:36 | quelsaruk | cu tomorrow |
| 21:25:46 | tracktheripper | cu |
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| 22:16:54 | nikkelitous | 2.0 feature freeze. Really exciting. |
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| 23:02:39 | randomnick | hello folks.. |
| 23:02:41 | randomnick | i've encountered an unusual error message: |
| 23:02:42 | randomnick | "I04:IllInstr |
| 23:02:44 | randomnick | at 00000000" |
| 23:02:45 | randomnick | while playing a particular MP3 file on most recent daily.. anyone seen this? |
| 23:03:11 | randomnick | fmrec btw |
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| 23:08:45 | larry_llama | i have a question.. is there anybody out there? |
| 23:09:41 | randomnick | hello ll |
| 23:10:17 | | Part barka`coding |
| 23:12:02 | nikkelitous | they are all here but none of them are paying much attention. |
| 23:12:12 | nikkelitous | Rockbox is in a 2.0 feature freeze. |
| 23:12:24 | nikkelitous | Everyone is out testing Rockbox for bugs. |
| 23:12:38 | nikkelitous | So that they can make 2.0 bug free. |
| 23:14:12 | nikkelitous | If you wanna ask your questions I will try to help. I can't help with the bugs but I may be able to help with info. |
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| 23:15:08 | randomnick | nikkelitous, does that I04:IllInstr msg ring a bell? |
| 23:15:14 | nikkelitous | Not a clue |
| 23:15:28 | larry_llama | awesoem |
| 23:15:33 | nikkelitous | Sorry. I haven't done much in the code. |
| 23:15:47 | larry_llama | i am just curious about mp3 recording on the juke10 and 20 |
| 23:15:50 | nikkelitous | All the coders are busy debugging. |
| 23:16:06 | Ryono | Has anyone out there had any trouble with their archos's hard drive not spinning up? |
| 23:16:11 | nikkelitous | The players aren't capable of recording because the recording is done in hardware. |
| 23:16:38 | larry_llama | i mean the jukebox recorder 10 and the jukebox recorder 20 |
| 23:16:46 | nikkelitous | Oh ok. |
| 23:16:48 | nikkelitous | Shoot. |
| 23:16:50 | randomnick | ryono: have not seen that |
| 23:17:10 | nikkelitous | If your hard-drive isn't spinning up you might have a bad hard-drive. See if you can mount it on your computer. If it wont work I suggest you call Archos for repair. |
| 23:17:22 | larry_llama | the FAQ says it's not implemented, but other places on the site say it has been.. just curious if it's working in rockbox, and what bitrates are supported? |
| 23:17:51 | Ryono | I should take it right out and directly hook it up to my pc? |
| 23:17:55 | nikkelitous | It is working but it is in the daily builds. It is still buggy and is being tested right now. |
| 23:18:15 | nikkelitous | It will be in the 2.0 release which should happen within a few days. |
| 23:18:28 | nikkelitous | Ryono: Is it a new one? |
| 23:18:51 | larry_llama | i'm looking to replace my ageing minidisc recorder, and i do a lot of live recordings with electret mics with an external batterybox.. so i dont need a powered mic jack, just a line in. this seems like a good replcement |
| 23:19:42 | nikkelitous | The Archos recorder supports recording in MP3. It is all done in hardware so Rockbox can support it. It is done in VBR. It can't support CBR. |
| 23:20:25 | Ryono | It's under a year old. One day I tried to start it and the hard drive won't spin up. Yes the batteries are charged, and it makes this funny clicking noise. |
| 23:21:03 | nikkelitous | It sounds like the drive is bad. |
| 23:21:31 | nikkelitous | I would suggest trying to hook it up to your PC and seeing if it works there. |
| 23:22:32 | Ryono | Any hints on how to do that without voiding my warranty? I'd love to be able to send it in if it really is busted. |
| 23:22:42 | Ryono | But I'd also like the chance to back up everything first. |
| 23:22:58 | larry_llama | cool thanks nikk.. do you know offhand what the max bitrate is? I have read both 160 and 192.. Maybe though the Nomad juke 3 is better cause it does direct to WAV i think |
| 23:23:13 | nikkelitous | I dunno. |
| 23:23:26 | nikkelitous | I think that it averages at 160 but I don |
| 23:23:35 | larry_llama | cool thanks |
| 23:23:49 | nikkelitous | I think the max is >300 |
| 23:23:53 | nikkelitous | But I'm not sure. |
| 23:23:54 | larry_llama | it can decode CBR right? i can listen to VBR and CBR, but cant record cbr |
| 23:23:59 | nikkelitous | I don't have a recorder. |
| 23:24:12 | larry_llama | ok thats cool |
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| 23:24:17 | nikkelitous | It is done is hardware. The encoder doesn't allow you to set it. |
| 23:24:21 | Ryono | Anyways, thanks nikkelitous. |
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| 23:25:04 | larry_llama | awesome, well the recorder10 seems to be going for a pretty good price these days so maybe i'll try it out |
| 23:25:23 | nikkelitous | Okay. |
| 23:25:43 | larry_llama | cheers! |
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