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#rockbox log for 2003-04-21

00:00:06midknight2k3It'd be hard I imagine
00:00:16midknight2k3and you'd rish killing your archos
00:00:20midknight2k3Big time
00:00:23PlymWSgot a replacement screen from ebay, just wondered if anyone else has attempted it
00:00:34tracktheripperits sending
00:00:47midknight2k3you got a replacement already?
00:01:03PlymWSyeah
00:01:12midknight2k3how much $$?
00:01:33tracktherippermidknight email is sent
00:01:34tracktheripper:-)
00:01:38midknight2k3yep
00:01:40midknight2k3jjty?
00:01:45tracktheripperdid u get it?
00:01:45tracktheripper:D
00:01:50midknight2k3must have
00:01:56PlymWSabout $ 80
00:02:02midknight2k3wow
00:02:06midknight2k3I'd just give it a go then
00:02:35PlymWSyou know how theyre attatched to the jukebox ? polymer strip / ribbon ??
00:02:44midknight2k3no idea
00:02:47tracktherippermidknight did u get my 2 pics?
00:02:51PlymWSk
00:02:58midknight2k3i think the polymer strip idea is the best way to sum it up
00:03:02midknight2k3yep
00:03:04midknight2k3downloading
00:03:06midknight2k3downloaded
00:03:20tracktheripperits 2 JPEGs in a ZIP file
00:03:24midknight2k3yes
00:03:30PlymWShope so, coz theyre not as bad as ribbons :)
00:03:45midknight2k3it's your archos!
00:04:00midknight2k3where is ht eding?
00:04:03tracktheripperlol sorry the pic is blurred slightly
00:04:06midknight2k3where is the ding?
00:04:11midknight2k3which side?
00:04:21tracktheripperon the underside edge
00:04:25tracktheripperdid u get my other pic (of me)?
00:04:31LinusNPlymWS: the fm recorder has a strip, so maybe the MM has that too
00:04:40midknight2k3ii think
00:04:51tracktheripperyou must have
00:04:56midknight2k3yes I did
00:04:59tracktheripperits in the ZIP file with the Archos pic
00:05:39midknight2k3You and yyour archos....
00:05:44midknight2k3how touching :)
00:06:10tracktheripperlol can u see me?
00:06:16midknight2k3peachy smintys are so good
00:06:25midknight2k3what do you mean ues
00:06:59tracktherippermidknight im wearing a bright yellow jacket in the pic :-)
00:06:59PlymWShmmm. ill let you know on wed when i open mine up :)
00:07:17midknight2k3RELLY?
00:08:02midknight2k3take pictures!
00:08:08midknight2k3good luck plymws
00:08:27PlymWShehe. thx
00:08:49midknight2k3seeya
00:08:56midknight2k3if you're leaving lol
00:08:59PlymWSif i get any success ill post a DIY "how to" and let you know the addy
00:09:02midknight2k3where did that come from
00:09:04midknight2k3cool
00:09:09midknight2k3it'll be neat to see
00:09:11midknight2k3Hey wait
00:09:19midknight2k3what if you screw over your archos?
00:09:26PlymWSif i all goes FUBAR ill let you know what NOT to do :)
00:09:37midknight2k3What will you do with archos?
00:09:41PlymWSflog it on ebay as spares or repair
00:09:48midknight2k3naw!
00:09:50midknight2k3break it!
00:10:13PlymWSbreak it ?? ill try not to but.....
00:10:34midknight2k3no
00:10:42midknight2k3if you mess up the archos then do this:
00:10:54midknight2k3proceed to throw it out the window at some concrete and film it
00:10:56PlymWSk...
00:11:17PlymWShehehe. very rock 'n' roll :)
00:11:28midknight2k3yep
00:11:32midknight2k3want an example?
00:11:44PlymWStake it youve done this :)
00:11:47midknight2k3nope
00:11:50midknight2k3never mind
00:11:55PlymWSoh ic
00:11:57midknight2k3I have no example currently
00:12:03midknight2k3but i would noramlly have about 20
00:13:51midknight2k3just let me know if it goes wrong
00:14:02midknight2k3I sahll think up a better plan
00:14:27PlymWSwill do :)
00:14:37midknight2k3:(0)
00:14:44midknight2k3(=:-)
00:14:51midknight2k3 ^ ^
00:14:54midknight2k3 |
00:14:58midknight2k3|____|
00:15:00midknight2k3Glee!
00:17:51tracktherippermid where u from?
00:18:10midknight2k3arizona
00:18:43midknight2k3I'm currently having trouble with the pc cam thing
00:19:20midknight2k3hmm
00:19:24tracktheripperim in london
00:19:32midknight2k3wow
00:19:48midknight2k3there's archoses in london?
00:19:51tracktheripper:)
00:19:52tracktheripperyea
00:20:00tracktheripperIm consodering getting a MM
00:20:08midknight2k3Well I dunno
00:20:13midknight2k3For DVD rips, no way
00:20:21midknight2k3Images and movies are ok tho
00:20:26tracktheripperits good for watching DVDs on the fly :-)
00:20:49midknight2k3You planning on ripping dvds onto it?
00:20:55tracktheripperyea
00:21:02tracktheripperand getting the camera attachment
00:21:03tracktheripper;-)
00:21:22midknight2k3i dunno about dvd ripping with it
00:21:49PsycoXuli dunno about watching movies on that thing
00:21:54PsycoXulmy pda's got a bigger screen and It's too small
00:22:01midknight2k3lol
00:22:04midknight2k3the cassiopea?
00:22:10PsycoXulyeah
00:22:11PsycoXulwell any pda
00:22:11PsycoXulheh
00:22:19midknight2k3i remember all too well
00:22:27PsycoXulpda-sized screen is about as small as i'd want to watch a movie on
00:22:29midknight2k3ripper
00:22:36PsycoXulthat jbmm screen is tiny
00:22:48tracktheripperbut they rave about its quality :-)
00:22:59midknight2k3http://www.epinions.com/content_91133808260
00:23:05midknight2k3read it all the way down
00:23:08midknight2k3it's not that lon
00:23:08midknight2k3g
00:23:52tracktheripperyea im reading it
00:23:53tracktheripperone sec
00:23:54tracktheripper:-)
00:25:29PsycoXulwhy can't my pda have a battery like the fmrec/jbmm's have
00:25:29PsycoXulheh
00:25:48PsycoXuli don't think i even get the 4 hours it's rated for :/
00:25:54midknight2k3lol
00:26:02midknight2k3not long enough for a movie by any means
00:26:19PsycoXulhuh?
00:26:34midknight2k3yep
00:26:39midknight2k3call me stupid
00:26:41midknight2k3I'm rady
00:26:45PsycoXulnah
00:26:48PsycoXulbusy reading
00:26:55midknight2k3oh lol
00:28:44PsycoXulSome use obscure "hacker-oriented" apps like "Gordian Knot". NONE of them are all-in-one solutions,
00:28:48PsycoXulheh
00:28:52PsycoXulman this guy really doesn't know what he's talking about
00:28:54***No seen item changed, no save performed.
00:28:54midknight2k3What-ever
00:28:55midknight2k3WHAT?
00:28:58midknight2k3You kidding?
00:29:05PsycoXulgordian knot is far from "hacker-oriented"
00:29:12PsycoXulit's a frontend for fucks sake
00:29:20midknight2k3here's the idea
00:29:29midknight2k3there's hacker oriented or not. there's no 'far from'
00:29:39 Quit PlymWS ("Leaving")
00:29:40midknight2k3If it's at all related i'd say yes
00:29:48PsycoXula GUI frontend to make it easier to use the tools to transcode video
00:29:59PsycoXuland be all-in-one at that
00:30:22PsycoXulnor is it obscure
00:30:23PsycoXulheh
00:30:33PsycoXulmidknight2k3: reality isn't binary
00:30:38midknight2k3lol
00:30:38PsycoXulmidknight2k3: there's endless shades of gray
00:30:45midknight2k3CLAM DOWN
00:30:45PsycoXulanything can be 'far from' anything
00:30:50midknight2k3sigh
00:30:57midknight2k3sure okay whatver
00:31:21PsycoXulbut really
00:31:28PsycoXulhe bitches about the usb2 connector
00:31:33midknight2k3hahah
00:31:36midknight2k3And?
00:31:42PsycoXulapparently he doesn't realize that it's supposed to be modular
00:31:45midknight2k3What's Mr Archos got to say on that?
00:31:47PsycoXuland you can get a firewire connector for it to
00:31:49midknight2k3Aha!
00:32:10midknight2k3really
00:32:20midknight2k3Well he just has it fixed and threw it out
00:32:26midknight2k3dont get me wrong
00:32:34midknight2k3an archos mmjb would be really cool to have
00:32:39midknight2k3his just didn't work out for him
00:32:51PsycoXulthey probably only included a usb1 connector on it at all so there'd be something if you didn't get either the usb2 or firewire modules
00:33:21tracktheripperDoes ANYONE have a MM here?
00:33:29PsycoXuland i find it comical how he feels safe dropping his ipod but not this
00:33:34midknight2k3hahahahah
00:33:39midknight2k3You find it comical?
00:34:00midknight2k3what is that supposed to mean?
00:34:13PsycoXulthat it's comedy
00:34:21midknight2k3Okay think of it this way
00:34:23PsycoXulit's irony is funny
00:34:24PsycoXulheh
00:34:40midknight2k3STUPID
00:34:51midknight2k3any other issues with it?
00:35:01PsycoXuli'm not done reading yet
00:35:42tracktheripperim gonna get tea brb
00:35:45PsycoXuli seem to recall reading somewhere
00:35:50PsycoXulthat it comes with a transcoding program
00:36:04PsycoXulto convert * to whatever mpeg4 format it likes
00:36:15midknight2k3yes
00:36:17midknight2k3he mentioned
00:36:24PsycoXuland this guys ranting about finding this tool and that tool and choosing codecs and etc
00:36:27midknight2k3you were too busy saying that he's comical to notice perhaps
00:37:01PsycoXuland anybody who can't find a method to get things working every time it's used
00:37:02PsycoXulis just an idiot
00:37:13PsycoXul"hope it work. most of the time, it doesn't"
00:37:15midknight2k3hmmmm
00:37:20midknight2k3While I could trust my ipod to take a substantial fall (and believe me, it has)
00:37:29midknight2k3isn't saying the he likes dropping his ipod comically
00:37:39PsycoXulthat just tells me he struggled and gave up
00:37:48midknight2k3hmmm
00:37:56PsycoXulmidknight2k3: no i find it comical that he feels safer dropping the ipod than the archos
00:38:04midknight2k3the ipod is durable
00:38:10PsycoXulit's a piece of plastic
00:38:16PsycoXulit probably snaps together
00:38:17midknight2k3the archos would seize up where the ipod would slide through
00:38:52PsycoXulyou mean the music, from the bump?
00:39:04midknight2k3no it would DIE
00:39:04PsycoXulthe ipod's got a bigger buffer
00:39:08midknight2k3yep
00:39:14PsycoXuldie?
00:39:24midknight2k3Like, stop working
00:39:41PsycoXuli dropped my studio20 from like 4 feet onto a tile floor while it was playing
00:39:50PsycoXulno damage
00:39:54midknight2k3really
00:39:58midknight2k3same with the ipod wow
00:40:02PsycoXulthe music stopped a couple minutes later
00:40:08midknight2k3:))
00:40:23PsycoXulit didn't seem to wanna read from the HD again till after a restart
00:40:29midknight2k3I know
00:40:32midknight2k3They suck
00:40:38midknight2k3Studio20?
00:40:38PsycoXulbut it still worked
00:40:40PsycoXulheh
00:40:44midknight2k3hmm
00:40:54midknight2k3you're lucky
00:41:02midknight2k3has your hard drive ever made grinding noises?
00:41:10tracktheripperhopefully they will bring out a 20Gb flash device
00:41:13midknight2k3it freaked me OUT.
00:41:13PsycoXulno
00:41:13tracktheripperthat is NOT expensive
00:41:20midknight2k3what?
00:41:31PsycoXultracktheripper: heh
00:41:41PsycoXultracktheripper: maybe when spintronics are more established
00:41:46tracktheripperWhy is flash memory so expensive?
00:42:17midknight2k3OKAY WAIT
00:42:21midknight2k3SHUT UP I SAY
00:42:25midknight2k3LE TME THINK
00:42:34tracktheripperok we are listening :-)
00:42:43midknight2k3ripper have you recorded on the archos with rockbox firmware?
00:43:01midknight2k3OUCH
00:43:16midknight2k3stupid smints
00:43:32PsycoXuli have
00:43:33tracktheripperMidknight I use the Archos firmware to record
00:43:45PsycoXuli use rockbox to record
00:43:47midknight2k3so you have a recorder psyco
00:43:58tracktheripperI have a Recorder
00:44:00PsycoXulyeah when my studio20 quit charging bestbuy gave me an fm rec
00:44:12midknight2k3did you ever get a panic when recording?
00:44:20midknight2k3it just happened to me
00:44:20PsycoXulnope
00:44:21tracktheripperno
00:44:47midknight2k3*PANIC*
00:44:52tracktheripperThe reason why I use Archos firmware to record is because 1) I choose where to store the file, 2) I can choose the filename and 3) I can enter the ID3 tags :-)
00:44:53midknight2k3rec fls: -114
00:45:19PsycoXulwell
00:45:22PsycoXulrockbox lets you rename files
00:45:32midknight2k3yeah
00:45:35midknight2k3i like rockbox better
00:45:38midknight2k3it does it auto
00:45:40PsycoXulthere's a patch that lets you enter id3 and will make recordings go into . too i think
00:45:43tracktheripperbut rockbox does not let u input ID3 tags
00:45:48midknight2k3if you gotta record ina rchos then you have to chang ethe name and all
00:46:05PsycoXulyeah i like rockbox's quick recording
00:46:07tracktheripperi will NOT use Rockbox to record until you can add ID3 tags
00:46:13midknight2k3archos=info first, record later, rockbox = record first, rename later
00:46:15PsycoXuljust hit the button
00:46:29tracktheripperfor me ID3 tags are very important
00:46:29midknight2k3ow
00:46:35LinusNmidknight2k3: when did you get the panic?
00:46:36midknight2k3thisa hu8rt6s
00:46:40PsycoXulwhen i wanna record something i wanna record it, not fumble with naming and etc
00:46:41PsycoXulanyway
00:46:46LinusNtracktheripper: then edit the tags in the PC
00:46:46midknight2k3um
00:47:25PsycoXulthat review picks on a lot of stupid stuff
00:47:30PsycoXuli wouldn't get a jbmm either
00:47:40PsycoXulbut for better reasons
00:47:40PsycoXulheh
00:47:49tracktheripperyes, but I do recordings on the fly and I need to know what's what with ease
00:47:50tracktheripperand the ID3 tags help me out greatly
00:47:50 Join BoD[] [0] (BoD@ca-sqy-1-37.abo.wanadoo.fr)
00:47:55BoD[]hi!!
00:48:02tracktheripperhi BoD
00:48:11tracktheripperIm considering getting a MM
00:48:31BoD[]for what?
00:49:06PsycoXulhttp://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=697085&group_id=44306&atid=439120
00:49:26tracktheripperplay MP3s, snap photos wiv the camera attachment, view DVDs on the fly, pose factor
00:50:17BoD[]you mean divx ;)
00:50:24tracktheripperyea
00:50:26BoD[]what is "pose factor" ?
00:50:30CtcpIgnored 4 channel CTCP requests in 2 days and 6 hours at the last flood
00:50:30*PsycoXul wonders if that patch still applies cleanly
00:50:57tracktherippershow off with it
00:51:00tracktheripperlook cool :-)
00:51:02BoD[]oh ok :)
00:51:04PsycoXulheh
00:51:05tracktherippermake ur friends jealous :-)
00:51:15PsycoXulone thing i don't doubt about that guy's review is that the camera attatchment probably sucks
00:51:43PsycoXuli doubt it's worse than a webcam though, but you'd probably be better off with one of them little mini 1.2MP cameras that're flooding the market for cheap lately
00:51:46PsycoXulheh
00:51:51BoD[]me if i buy something new, it'll probably not be from archos
00:52:03BoD[]you have to admit: they suck :)
00:52:05tracktheripperPsycho no-one complains about the crap cameras in mobile phones
00:52:59BoD[]but i have a great news
00:53:27BoD[]i found a screwdriver that matches these screws
00:53:33BoD[]and i opened my unit
00:53:50PsycoXultracktheripper: well
00:54:00PsycoXulthe pictures they show on TV from those don't look bad
00:54:07PsycoXulthat doesn't necessarily mean anything of course
00:54:09BoD[]and I soldered it
00:54:11PsycoXulbut then you know
00:54:17PsycoXulyou don't buy a cell phone for it's camera
00:54:22PsycoXulthe camera's just a bonus on that
00:54:22PsycoXulheh
00:54:46tracktheripperso the camera is just a bunus for the MM
00:54:54PsycoXulheh
00:55:14PsycoXulwhy not spend the same amount on a PDA with integrated WIFI
00:55:21PsycoXuland then setup a fast site with all your movies
00:55:24BoD[]did you notice the hard drive is not the heaviest part of the unit ?!
00:55:26PsycoXuland stream them
00:55:29PsycoXul:p
00:56:13tracktheripperdunno know what u would use a PDA for
00:56:41PsycoXuli just said
00:56:53PsycoXulstreaming your movies over wifi
00:56:53PsycoXulheh
00:57:02tracktheripper:D
00:57:03PsycoXulreally i mean a pocketpc
00:57:08PsycoXulbut you know
00:57:36PsycoXulbut pocketpc's aren't limited to any specific codec or video format or even encoding paramaters
00:58:07PsycoXuland they can have equalizers and audio effects and maybe video filters if it's a fast one etc
00:58:15PsycoXuland a bigger screen
00:59:17tracktheripperlol
00:59:27PsycoXulor if you can't do the wifi thing, maybe you can't get a fast enough site to store your movies or you can't get wireless access most places or whatever
00:59:30BoD[]you can play mame with it
00:59:34PsycoXulyou could get one with USB host support
00:59:44BoD[]which is a great "pose factor" ;)
00:59:48PsycoXulmy parents' just need a $20 or $30 cable to be a USB host
01:00
01:00:12PsycoXulthen plug your current archos into that and use it as a usb hd for it
01:00:16PsycoXuland play your movies off that
01:00:17PsycoXul:p
01:00:44PsycoXulthough i dunno about the battery life
01:00:52PsycoXulmine's always run down pretty quick being used as a usb hd
01:01:17PsycoXulyour best bet would be to wait a few years
01:01:52PsycoXuland get something that's a similar class of system as current desktop machines are
01:02:35PsycoXulbut with a full-device screen, some GB's of spintronic-based memory, and fits in your pocket
01:02:38PsycoXulheh
01:03:19PsycoXuli decided as soon as i saw the JBMM that i'd wait for the 2nd or 3rd generation of it's class of devices before i'd want one
01:03:37midknight2k3calm down lol
01:03:47PsycoXulheh
01:03:50PsycoXulwhat?
01:03:55PsycoXuli'm not freaking out or anything
01:03:58PsycoXuljust voicing my opinions :p
01:03:59midknight2k3That's like 10 lines
01:04:01midknight2k3:)
01:04:02BoD[]the next generations will have all those drm shit though
01:04:11PsycoXuldrm?
01:04:18PsycoXuloh digital rights management?
01:04:18BoD[]digital right management
01:04:25PsycoXulheh
01:04:36 Join ken0__ [0] (marklar2@80.178.32.175.forward.012.net.il)
01:04:40BoD[]like you won't be allowed to copy everything you want
01:04:42PsycoXulwell so does the recorders don't they?
01:04:54BoD[]ajbr ?
01:04:57PsycoXulyeah
01:05:06PsycoXuland you use your PC to copy things anyway
01:05:07BoD[]no they have no such thing
01:05:16LinusNthe HW supports DRM
01:05:19PsycoXulyou can remove any copy protection before it ever goes to the device
01:05:32PsycoXulunless you wanna use it to record
01:05:34BoD[]but the iPod has some stuff
01:05:44BoD[]HW ?
01:05:48PsycoXulhardware i think
01:05:49PsycoXulheh
01:05:54LinusNit won't let you record a copyrighted S/PDIF stream
01:05:56BoD[]oh
01:06:02BoD[]really ??
01:06:06LinusNthe ajbr
01:06:12BoD[]man this sucks i didn't know that
01:06:17PsycoXuli read somewhere that the ajbrec's had that stuff and archos put in some secret key combo or something to disable it
01:06:20PsycoXulheh
01:06:27tracktheripperthere is Psyco
01:06:28PsycoXulin their firmware
01:06:29LinusNbut Rockbox doesn't care about the copyright S/PDIF status
01:06:39tracktheripperyou need to be in the Archos firmware to activate the hack
01:06:49LinusNtracktheripper: or use rockbox
01:06:50midknight2k3do you know how ripper?
01:07:07PsycoXulyeah i guess the firmware has to specifically support it for it to do it
01:07:09tracktheripperIn the Archos firmware where you go to key in Album ID3 tag type in HFSCMSOFF
01:07:12PsycoXuland rockbox just ignores it
01:07:20LinusNPsycoXul: exactly
01:07:21tracktheripperyou get a message that says "SCMS off"
01:07:25BoD[]ok.. so you can imagine that in the future generation of this kind of devices, it will be more difficult to hack
01:07:39PsycoXuli dunno
01:07:48PsycoXularchos is the only device currently i've heard of putting such a hack into it
01:08:01tracktheripperLinusN Why the hell doesn't Archos supply Rockbox as standard with their Jukeboxes?
01:08:16LinusNtracktheripper: take a guess
01:08:26LinusNthey can't support it
01:08:27tracktheripperIm sure Archos are aware of Rockbox
01:08:28BoD[]well with the iPod if you use the "legal" softwares from Apple, you can't access the music in the hard drive
01:08:46LinusNtracktheripper: they have asked for our permission to use rockbox
01:08:53BoD[]so you can copy a mp3 from your pc then give the iPod to a friend and he takes the mp3
01:08:56tracktheripperohh
01:09:04BoD[]you can'T i mean :)
01:09:13PsycoXulheh
01:09:18tracktheripperis Archos aware on how much better Rockbox is?
01:09:49LinusNtracktheripper: i'm sure they have tried it, otherwise they wouldn't have asked
01:10:29tracktheripperThere is an Achilles heel with that hack :-)
01:10:58tracktheripperWhat if you need the album HFSCMSOFF as a genuine ID3 tag?
01:11:01tracktheripperheehee
01:11:09PsycoXulheh
01:11:28midknight2k3i doubt it
01:11:35PsycoXulyeah
01:11:39PsycoXuli'm gonna put out an album
01:11:54PsycoXulunder the artist title "are kose" and name the album HFSCMSOFF
01:12:43tracktheripperI wonder why Archos made that hack hidden?
01:12:53PsycoXulwhats so hidden about it?
01:13:39PsycoXulthe fact that they even have a hack and that it's known about tells me they didn't really want to support SCMS
01:13:39tracktheripperbecause to work the hack you need to type that codeword in
01:13:49tracktheripperlol
01:14:01tracktheripperJust include an option in the menu SCMS off/on
01:14:05LinusNif they allowed it in their settings, they could probably be sued by some greedy association
01:14:06PsycoXulheh
01:14:12PsycoXulexactly
01:14:23tracktheripperbut what if the shit hits the fan about this "hidden hack"
01:14:37PsycoXulwell it's not a supported feature
01:14:49PsycoXulthey don't even tell you about it
01:15:02tracktheripperi'e what if the RIAA found about it?
01:15:11PsycoXulso how could they be held responsible for their customers hacking their units
01:15:36tracktheripperyou didn't answer me
01:15:51tracktheripperWhat if the RIAA found about this "hidden hack" where you key in HFSCMSOFF
01:15:51PsycoXulyeah i did
01:15:51PsycoXulheh
01:15:58PsycoXulwhat would it matter?
01:16:00tracktheripperthey could sue Archos and force them to remove the hack
01:16:05PsycoXulit's not a supported feature
01:16:19PsycoXulthey couldn't force them to remove it
01:16:23PsycoXulthat would require a recall
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01:16:45PsycoXulbest they could do is make them put up a new firmware to download
01:16:54PsycoXulwith a "removed SMSC disabling hack" in the changelog
01:16:57PsycoXulthat nobody would upgrade to
01:16:58tracktherippersomething like that
01:17:01tracktheripperlol
01:17:06PsycoXuland put that on any new units shipping, if they still ship any
01:17:08tracktheripperbut they would include in new Jukeboxes
01:17:28PsycoXulwhich, by the time all this would go down, i doubt they would be still
01:17:28PsycoXulheh
01:18:29tracktheripperthere is a way you could have a "crossfade illusion"
01:18:32BoD[]you watch too many movies ;)
01:18:41tracktheripperFade in the new song just after the preceding song has faded out
01:18:46PsycoXulheh
01:18:54PsycoXulabout crossfade
01:19:05tracktheripperWhat do you think Linus?
01:19:12PsycoXuli wonder if you could shuffle the frames together
01:19:22PsycoXulprobably not..
01:19:25midknight2k3ripper
01:19:30PsycoXulbut you know it's a thought
01:19:31PsycoXulheh
01:19:32midknight2k3private chat window, helllllo?
01:20:09tracktheripperSCMS = Serial Copy Management System
01:20:28PsycoXulgot frames from song A and frames from song B and you put them in the buffer like AAAABAABAABBAABBABBABBABBBBB or somesuch
01:20:52BoD[]midknight2k3: ignore list helllllo ?
01:20:58midknight2k3ha ha
01:21:05PsycoXuland just make it see it as VBR if they're different bitrates
01:21:07midknight2k3you hate me?
01:21:09midknight2k3crap!
01:21:16tracktheripperLinus what do u think of my crossfade illusion idea?
01:21:28PsycoXulbut i dunno enough about mp3 and the decoding hardware to know if that'd work/work right
01:21:32PsycoXulheh
01:21:45BoD[]psyco : this would sound terrible don't you think ?
01:21:52LinusNthat will sound like sh*t for sure
01:21:54tracktheripperAll you do is fade in the next song AFTER the preceding song has finished
01:22:12PsycoXulLinusN: would it?
01:22:22PsycoXulbut a frame is only a tiny fraction of a seconds worth of audio isn't it?
01:22:22PsycoXulheh
01:22:25tracktherippersince most songs fade OUT when they finish
01:22:32LinusNit will sound like stuttering
01:22:59PsycoXulwhats a typical frames per second?
01:23:20LinusNeach frame is about 26ms
01:23:41LinusNit depends on the sampling rate
01:23:41PsycoXulah
01:23:48BoD[]even if a frame was very little, it would create noise
01:23:55LinusNexactly
01:24:23PsycoXuloh well
01:25:14PsycoXultracktheripper: about your idea, i don't really see the point.. isn't the idea of crossfading to remove the gap between songs not make it longer?
01:25:17BoD[]you still can create all the possible combination of two files, and generate a crossfading mp3 for each one of them and make the archos play them between the two songs ;)
01:25:54tracktheripperbut it would create an "illusion of crossfade"
01:25:58midknight2k3yeah, what he said
01:26:03midknight2k3trackripperguy
01:26:07midknight2k3private chat hello?
01:26:11PsycoXulheh
01:26:18tracktherippersince crossfade is not possible according to Bjorn and co
01:26:24midknight2k3hah
01:26:50midknight2k3i know
01:27:00midknight2k3he's making it sound impossible
01:27:06midknight2k3but it's really under development
01:27:08tracktheripperLinus is the one who wears the glasses
01:27:13PsycoXulhow about rockbox does background software decoding, crossfading, and re-encoding of the 2 seconds between the end of the current track and the next track
01:27:15midknight2k3UM!
01:27:17midknight2k3RIPPER!
01:27:19midknight2k3HELLO?
01:27:22PsycoXulstarts as soon as the track starts and hopes it finishes by the time the track's done
01:27:25tracktheripperYES?
01:27:29PsycoXuldepending on track length and stuff
01:27:29PsycoXulheh
01:27:35midknight2k3PRIVATE...
01:27:36midknight2k3CHAT
01:27:44tracktherippertoo tired to private chatty
01:27:49midknight2k3just go there
01:27:51BoD[]what's your problem midknight
01:28:01midknight2k3it's...
01:28:03midknight2k3business
01:28:10PsycoXuldirty business?
01:28:15midknight2k3NO
01:28:19PsycoXulsinful business?
01:28:20midknight2k3how dare you!
01:28:23midknight2k3No way
01:28:28midknight2k3tidbitty business
01:28:37PsycoXultidbitty?
01:28:40midknight2k3yes
01:28:53PsycoXulbidtitty business? prostitution?
01:28:53BoD[]what do you mean with your "private chat"s ? :)
01:29:02midknight2k3N...O
01:29:08midknight2k3bidtitty?
01:29:11midknight2k3that's just stupid
01:29:18PsycoXulheh
01:29:32PsycoXulwell wtf does 'tidbitty business' mean? that doesn't even make sense
01:29:40midknight2k3eeggs.com
01:29:42tracktheripperIs it me or is the inverted video line more slow than the arrow?
01:29:50midknight2k3MAN!
01:29:54BoD[]arff
01:29:56PsycoXultracktheripper: i would guess it's got more overhead
01:29:58midknight2k3do you ever listen?
01:30:05midknight2k3okay
01:30:15midknight2k3who can tell me what the hfscms is for
01:30:33PsycoXuldunno about the hf
01:30:39PsycoXultracktheripper already said what the scms is
01:33:14tracktheripperlol
01:33:28midknight2k3ripper
01:33:30midknight2k3i beg you
01:33:34tracktheripperWHAT?
01:33:35midknight2k3please please
01:33:41midknight2k3go the the private chat
01:33:47midknight2k3answer the simple question
01:33:48tracktheripperim off 2 bed soon
01:33:53midknight2k3great
01:34:02midknight2k3i only have until soon to get the answer
01:34:03tracktheripperask me here
01:34:05tracktheripperif u like
01:34:23midknight2k3I need to know exactly what the scms is for
01:34:39tracktheripperSCMS IS A COPY PROTECTION SCHEME THAT PREVENTS COPY-PROTECTED DATA BEING RECORDED ONTO THE ARCHOS VIA THE DIGITAL IN PORT
01:34:51midknight2k3thanks
01:34:59PsycoXulheh
01:35:12PsycoXulmidknight2k3: you should pay more attention
01:35:25PsycoXulthat info's been given while you were here
01:35:36midknight2k3well not really
01:35:40midknight2k3i was gone-ish
01:35:48PsycoXulheh
01:36:11BoD[]:)
01:36:12PsycoXulit's still there
01:36:18PsycoXulyour irc client can't scroll back?
01:36:19PsycoXul:p
01:36:37midknight2k3yes it can
01:36:48midknight2k3I just don't feel like searching for it
01:37:18tracktherippermidknight if you rename the extension of one of your files from .mp3 to .midknight2k3 you will get your face on the LCD :-)
01:37:29PsycoXulsorry it just annoys me when people are persistently demanding for information they could've known already if they just payed more attention...
01:37:37midknight2k3really?
01:37:42PsycoXulhaha
01:37:43midknight2k3Sorry
01:37:45midknight2k3I have a life
01:37:49midknight2k3Glee!
01:38:17PsycoXulno you don't, you're just living under the illusion that you do
01:38:23midknight2k3Okay enough
01:38:26PsycoXulbut there's nothing wrong with that, thats all you can do anyway
01:38:30tracktheripperok calm down
01:38:30tracktheripper:-)
01:38:49PsycoXuljust don't presume to know that other people aren't under the same illusion and take it as an excuse for something
01:38:52PsycoXul:p
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01:39:09tracktheripperand by the way, 192kbs CBR is the best bitrate for ripping :-)
01:39:14PsycoXulheh
01:39:29PsycoXulif you want the best quality
01:39:32PsycoXullame −−alt-preset insane
01:39:38tracktheripperwrong
01:39:41BoD[]i guess ut's not as good as 320 ?
01:39:45tracktheripperFraunhofer, 192kbs CBR
01:40:17PsycoXulfraunhofer's not as good at >128kbps as others
01:40:20PsycoXulthats a well known fact
01:40:33tracktheripperyou know what LAME means?
01:40:40tracktheripperLAME is Not An MP3 Encoder
01:40:40tracktheripper:-)
01:40:42PsycoXulvery much established through listening tests and analysis
01:40:48PsycoXulright
01:40:57PsycoXulwhen LAME was named it wasn't an mp3 encoder
01:41:05PsycoXulit was a patch to the dist10 source to optimize it
01:41:23PsycoXulit's since had pretty much every piece rewritten and implimented a totally new psychoaccoustic model from scratch
01:41:44PsycoXulbut i've gotta go eat dinner now
01:41:45PsycoXulbbl
01:41:54tracktheripperA much shorter sentence
01:42:01tracktheripperFraunhofer is better than LAME
01:42:49BoD[]:))
01:43:36tracktheripper:))
01:43:48tracktheripperFraunhofer even sounds good at 64kbs
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01:43:57midknight2k3_awaaway
01:44:00midknight2k3_awalol
01:44:05midknight2k3_awawho cares im gone now
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01:44:15tracktherippergood :-)
01:44:30midknight2k3not really
01:44:41tracktheripper<−− is playing with the pitch adjuster
01:46:00tracktheripperat least pitch shift does not introduce artifacts
01:46:02tracktheripperlike time stretch
01:47:20midknight2k3im back!
01:47:25tracktheripper:-(
01:47:31midknight2k3you hate me?
01:47:32tracktheripper)-:
01:47:37tracktherippercourse not :D
01:47:43midknight2k3gah! :O
01:47:52midknight2k3gone now
01:48:16tracktheripperso midknight when are you gonna submit your patch that enables timestretching?
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02:35:21midknight2k3hey!
02:35:28midknight2k3who's here then?
02:35:37midknight2k3psyco?
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03:28:34midknight2k3Okay one more thing
03:28:49midknight2k3Oh well never mind
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03:30:07midknight2k3hmp
03:30:10midknight2k3hmph
03:31:50midknight2k3Linus, when you submit a bug report is it immediately posted or reviewed first?
03:32:30LinusNit's immediately posted
03:32:57midknight2k3Hmm I don't see it
03:33:19LinusNon the rockbox site?
03:33:23midknight2k3did I have to be logged it?
03:33:24midknight2k3yes
03:33:39midknight2k3it doesn't go there first?
03:33:50midknight2k3I'm looking at rockbox 'bug reports'
03:33:58LinusNour site fetches the bug report database once a day
03:34:09midknight2k3oh
03:34:17LinusNthe bug reports are stored at sourceforge
03:36:03midknight2k3same w/ feature requests?
03:36:07midknight2k3once a day?
03:36:07LinusNyup
03:36:50LinusNyour report: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=439118&aid=724788&group_id=44306
03:39:30midknight2k3Do you still have 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3 for download?
03:39:51LinusNno
03:40:06midknight2k3hmm
03:40:20LinusNwhy would we?
03:40:22midknight2k3was there ever a 1.2?
03:40:25midknight2k3I don't know
03:40:33midknight2k3:) you never know
03:40:45midknight2k3oh you made a mistake
03:40:55midknight2k3http://rockbox.haxx.se/download/old.html
03:41:03midknight2k3smack dab in the middle should be 1.2, not 1.1
03:41:48LinusNic
03:41:58midknight2k3*grin*
03:42:34midknight2k3at least 1.4 is still downloadable
03:46:02midknight2k3this smells
03:46:55midknight2k3I still have to write a page and a half 'persuasive' argument on why I thought it was unfair that the European Westward Expansion took over the Walla Walla tribe's land lol
03:47:08midknight2k3stumped again
03:50:12midknight2k3You know what, tonight I think I'll write a review of the magnificent Rockbox.
03:50:20midknight2k3A sequel to the Archos review.
03:51:23LinusNgreat
03:51:33LinusNgotta sleep now, nite
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11:58:14tracktheripperMorning :-)
11:58:17Cobra04what about the warranty when i install rockbox
11:58:20tracktheripperWhat does the Editable files option do?
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15:32:47tracktherippersorry was out
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15:35:47tracktheripperhows it going?
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18:42:10Quelsarukre-hi tracktheripper
18:43:02tracktheripper:)
18:43:15tracktheripperlast time I was talking to you, you suddenly went quite
18:43:35Quelsarukupss
18:43:37Quelsarukyups
18:43:39Quelsaruksorry
18:43:47tracktheripperits alright :-)
18:43:52Quelsaruki had to help a teacher here at university
18:43:57tracktheripperohh
18:44:30tracktheripperI can't see any more features being added to Rockbox since Rockbox is on the 200kb file size limit
18:44:49Quelsaruknot really
18:44:58tracktheripperwhat do you mean?
18:45:02Quelsarukit's 200ks if you load games and demos
18:45:06Quelsarukand...
18:45:23Quelsaruk2.3 will use some kind of modules
18:45:44tracktheripperwell if I could i'd have the games and demos removed
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18:45:57tracktheripperI would prefer advanced recording features over games
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18:47:54tracktheripperquels???
18:48:30Quelsaruksorry
18:48:31Quelsaruk:)
18:48:35Quelsarukof course
18:48:38Quelsarukme too
18:48:47tracktheripper真????
18:49:11Quelsaruk[18:48:50] <tracktheripper> I would prefer advanced recording features over games
18:49:15Quelsarukme too
18:49:16Quelsaruk:P
18:49:23tracktheripper真真真真
18:50:04tracktheripperso now I know how you do the inverted question mark :)
18:50:34Quelsarukhehe
18:51:13tracktheripper???真真
18:51:30tracktheripperafter all you don't use your car radio to play games :)
18:51:41Quelsarukno?
18:51:57tracktheripper?
18:52:12Quelsaruk;)
18:52:15Quelsarukjust a joke
18:52:15Quelsaruk:P
18:52:31tracktheripperI wish Dwihno was here :)
18:53:28tracktheripperWhy does the Archos firmware have that strange background noise?
18:54:15tracktheripper真真??
18:54:41Quelsaruksome problem with how you send the mp3 info to the mas.. or something like that
18:54:48QuelsarukLinus knows :)
18:55:14tracktheripperIs the MAS really programmable? even though Bjorn and co don't know how to program it?
18:55:55Quelsarukit's programmable.. if you have the manual and the tools to program it :)
18:56:18tracktheripperso can it be "theoretically" be programmed to play WMA or ATRAC3?
18:56:31Quelsarukdunno
18:56:34Quelsarukbut maybe
18:56:55tracktheripperATRAC3 is supposed to sound very good at 66kbs
18:58:03Quelsarukdunno
18:58:27tracktheripper真v真??
18:58:27Quelsaruky use VBR, using Lame's −−alt-preset standard
18:58:51tracktheripperI use the Fraunhofer codec in Musicmatch's encoder
18:59:36tracktheripperbut all in all I feel an MP3 file is an MP3 file, regardless of the codec
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19:00:50Quelsaruknot really
19:01:06tracktheripper真真
19:01:20Quelsaruki really don't like my mp3 compresed using CBR 128kbps...
19:01:26Quelsaruki can feel the difference
19:01:37tracktheripperwell Quel I encode at 192kbs CBR
19:01:38Quelsaruk(well.. i have good headphones)
19:01:44tracktheripperperfect CD quiality
19:02:06Quelsarukno really
19:02:21Quelsarukusing vbr i get files with 220 kbps
19:02:28tracktheripperI cannot tell the difference between a WAV file and an MP3 file at 192kbs CBR
19:02:31Quelsarukmore or less..
19:02:46Quelsaruksometimes i can
19:02:52tracktheripperbut for me 192Kbs CBR is fine
19:02:59tracktheripperif its not broken don't fix it :-)
19:03:06Quelsaruk:)
19:03:24tracktheripperas long as im happy with 192kbs CBR that all is that that matters :-)
19:04:43tracktheripperlook at the sound quality achieved with MP3Pro VBR!
19:04:53tracktheripperCD quality in file sizes less than 1Mb :-)
19:05:36tracktheripperNow if the nice people at Micronas will tell us how to reprogram the chip to play MP3Pro
19:06:11tracktheripperquel??
19:06:21Quelsarukummm
19:06:23Quelsaruksorry
19:06:26Quelsarukworking a bit
19:06:27Quelsaruk:)
19:07:13Quelsaruknever tested a mp3pro file
19:08:35tracktheripper:-(
19:16:01tracktheripperquel have you ever used a Creative Labs Nomad?
19:17:06Quelsarukno
19:17:21tracktheripperthe battery is short, short and did I say it was short?
19:17:22tracktheripper:)
19:17:28Quelsaruk;)
19:17:39tracktheripperyou are LUCKY to get 4 hours out of it
19:17:45Quelsarukjeje
19:18:01Quelsaruki mean.. hehe
19:18:03Quelsaruk:)
19:18:14tracktheripperbut at least the Nomad has the inverted video line and playback speed adjust
19:20:16Quelsarukrockbox also has the IVL
19:20:23Quelsarukand you can adjust the pitch :P
19:20:32tracktheripperyes but the Nomad timestretches :-)
19:20:42Quelsarukpse...
19:21:44tracktheripperand the nomad can play wma........
19:21:50tracktheripperbut cannot be used as a hard drive :-(
19:23:34tracktheripperI wonder what codec Creative Playcenter uses......?
19:26:17Quelsarukdunno
19:28:20tracktheripper:)
19:29:09tracktheripperI wonder if you can get a 60Gb drive that will fit in the Archos
19:32:02Quelsarukof course
19:32:08Quelsarukdwihno has one
19:32:12tracktheripper:D
19:32:23tracktheripperis the archos powerful enought to handle a 60Gb drive?
19:33:46Quelsaruki haven't tested it myself, but seems to be
19:34:23tracktheripperyay!!! the tetris game is finally working on my Archos!
19:36:57Quelsaruk:)
19:37:14Quelsarukgreettings :)
19:37:42tracktheripper:)
19:37:47tracktheripper:)
19:37:56tracktheripper>:D<
19:39:52tracktheripperThe metal chassis must act as some sort of heatsink
19:40:05tracktheripperit gets very warm if the JB is being used for long periods
19:41:45tracktheripperQUEL
19:42:21Quelsarukummm
19:42:22Quelsarukreally?
19:42:46Quelsarukjust if you are charging it...
19:42:49Quelsarukat least mine
19:43:01tracktheripper:D
19:43:09tracktheripperthe IVL looks better when Invert is on
19:51:31tracktheripper:)
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19:58:06Quelsaruk:)
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20:05:57Bryantdoes anyone know how to cue songs?
20:06:08Bryantor is it queue
20:13:09Quelsarukqueue
20:13:34Quelsarukwhile you are playing a song, browse the navigator
20:13:51Quelsarukand press 'ON+PLAY'
20:14:18Quelsarukyou'll get a file menu, where you can add that song to the queue
20:15:25QuelsarukBryant: anyway, you can take a look at http://rockbo.haxx.se/manual/manual.pdf
20:15:43Quelsarukhttp://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/manual.pdf
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20:39:14Bryantthanks
20:39:38Quelsaruk:)
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21:17:57Quelsarukcu tomorrow!
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22:53:16PsycoXullanghaarrocker: i've been considering buying a bass
22:53:23PsycoXuljust so i've got one to record :p
22:53:33langhaarrocker:)
22:53:56langhaarrockerI have mine in the practice room always -> no bass @ home
22:54:22PsycoXulwhy
22:54:23PsycoXulheh
22:55:01langhaarrockerI don't want superfluous luggage in the train twice a week. I have no car.
22:55:17PsycoXulheh
22:55:29PsycoXulyou only get to see your bass twice a week?
22:55:42langhaarrocker:(
22:57:35langhaarrockerBut it's a fluffy bass. I sew a suit from fur for it. :)
22:57:48PsycoXulheh
22:57:58PsycoXulgot any pics?
22:58:30PsycoXulthis is the one i'm looking at: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=030420012106063205043022329925/search/detail/base_id/58509
22:58:43PsycoXuli probably won't get it
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23:00:04langhaarrockerpic of my bass is on www.x-phobie.de somewhere in the practice room. Not very good for investigating fur though.
23:00:23PsycoXulreally? heh
23:00:29PsycoXuli looked at that before, didn't notice it
23:02:20langhaarrockerit can be seen little bit better when you click for "Soap"->"Peter krompft"
23:04:15langhaarrockerAny php or mysql guru around?
23:05:01HesHm, other bass players here? Cool.
23:05:41HesI got an upright bass in october. And i've got an electric one too.
23:06:07PsycoXulhaha rackmount pong
23:06:08langhaarrockerTwo basses and on guitar? Strange. Usually it's one bass and plenty of guitar men.
23:06:34langhaarrockerPsycoXol: Do you understand german?
23:06:41HesHave to admit, I do guitar too.
23:06:47PsycoXullanghaarrocker: not really
23:06:49CtcpIgnored 2 channel CTCP requests in 24 seconds at the last flood
23:06:49*langhaarrocker too
23:06:51PsycoXuli took 2 years of it in highschool
23:07:09PsycoXuland i probably learned more from it than most of the class
23:07:13PsycoXulbut that's really not saying anything
23:07:13PsycoXulheh
23:07:42langhaarrockerProbably less important to know german than english.
23:08:30langhaarrockerHes: so we all together are three people, two bass men and three guitar men. And half a drummer. :)
23:09:09HesHey, I played drums in a wind band in school, too. 8-)
23:09:43langhaarrockerok, one and a half drummer. And a vocalist (PsycoXul, not me)
23:10:01PsycoXullanghaarrocker: hey thats a 5-string?
23:10:02PsycoXulheh
23:10:16langhaarrockersorry
23:10:41PsycoXulsorry what?
23:10:49langhaarrockerOriginally I wanted to buy a fretless but then ended up with a 5 string.
23:11:04PsycoXulthats cool
23:11:21PsycoXulheh
23:11:33PsycoXuli dunno if i could deal with a fretless bass
23:11:36HesI only count as drummer these days. 8-)
23:11:58HesMy electric is 5-string. Upright is, naturally, fretless. I just love it.
23:12:03PsycoXulhttp://psyco.yi.org:8042/guitars.jpg
23:12:13langhaarrockerdemographics make my head ache when it comes down to fractional counting.
23:12:24PsycoXuli should finish restoring the 2 on the right
23:12:27HesLoads of fun (and ripping hair off while practicing)
23:13:33HesThe smallest one doesn't count. 8-)
23:13:35langhaarrockerPah. at that low frequencies nobody notices anything anyway.
23:13:58langhaarrockershrieeeeeek!!!
23:14:04*langhaarrocker detects a violin
23:14:08PsycoXulheh
23:14:14PsycoXulyeah
23:14:25PsycoXuli decided i wanted to learn to play it so got a cheap one on ebay
23:14:46PsycoXulit's hard heh
23:14:57PsycoXulespecialy without a teacher or having the violin properly setup or anything
23:16:21PsycoXuloddly, bowing was the harder part
23:16:39PsycoXulfingering sorta came natural in the somewhat rare occasion that i'm in the right state of mind
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23:17:38HesI have one too, played it for some 3-4 years as a kid. With a proper teacher and all, but very little practicing at home 8-)
23:17:55PsycoXulheh
23:18:15HesI think I had 4 different teachers, which wasn't a good thing.
23:18:42HesBut it was good practice for ears...
23:18:45PsycoXuli even got some books and a new chinrest for it not too long ago and haven't even put the chinrest on or even touched the violin since some months before that heh
23:19:02PsycoXuli should do it some more...
23:19:10PsycoXulstart playing with it again
23:19:20PsycoXulit really helped my improvisation
23:19:32PsycoXulfor some reason... heh
23:19:55PsycoXulsomehow i could improv on it much easier than trying to play any specific thing
23:20:33PsycoXulhow about that unfinished guitar with all the metal on it
23:20:36PsycoXulever seen anything like that?
23:22:17langhaarrockerAnd how do you play that pile of cloth? :)
23:22:38HesLaundry.
23:23:23langhaarrockerI played violin for 11 years. That's enough for ~ 4 lifetimes.
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23:23:50Triple-zhey all
23:24:02HesThe one with 4 humbuckers and a load of switches for selecting them? Seems like a funny experiment.
23:24:04Triple-zrockbox 2.0 rock
23:25:31PsycoXulheh
23:26:15HesYou might actually learn to play it in 11 years. 8-)
23:27:08Triple-zanyone know if theres some plugin to support cue files for mixed cds and live sets?
23:27:38PsycoXulthere's no plugins
23:28:48Triple-zis it possible?
23:28:53langhaarrockerI think someone made a patch for cue support. But I doubt it matches the code any more.
23:29:09PsycoXulanything's possible
23:29:14Triple-zno
23:29:14PsycoXulexcept for a bunch of stuff thats not
23:29:25Triple-zmixin isnt heh
23:29:32PsycoXulyeah see
23:29:46PsycoXulthats one of those things thats not :p
23:29:50langhaarrockerMaybe we could simulate mixing by interleaving mp3 frames :)
23:30:08PsycoXullanghaarrocker: that was my idea
23:30:19PsycoXullanghaarrocker: linus said it would just sound like stuttering shit
23:30:54langhaarrockerThat's what I believe, too. And I'm not sure wether the processor is fast enough for detecting mp3 frames in real time.
23:31:31HesMaybe at a low bit rate, yes. Slowly stuttering shit?
23:31:59PsycoXulheh
23:32:24langhaarrockerAnd it would be a time-stretching feature as well. Mixed-Timestrecht-Stutter-Shit (tm) :)
23:32:44langhaarrockerI must catch some rest. cu
23:33:01Triple-zso mod it with the new mobile pentium heh
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23:34:19tracktheripper:)
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