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#rockbox log for 2003-04-30

00:08:45tracktheripperGood evening tracktheripper
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00:08:46tracktheripperhow are ya?
00:08:49tracktheripperim fine thanx :-)
00:09:16tracktherippergood good :-)
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00:49:02 Join midknight2k3 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@AC8C9DF7.ipt.aol.com)
00:49:14midknight2k3Yeee
00:50:27tracktheripperhi
00:51:49midknight2k3hey hey
00:51:57midknight2k3why do you always leave in the middle of something?
00:58:23midknight2k3Well hello to you to.
01:00
01:05:13midknight2k3ignore me! please!
01:10:17tracktheripperYES!
01:10:24tracktherippersorry was talking to my tenant
01:11:03tracktherippernow it seems you are ignoring me midknight2k3!
01:11:04tracktheripperlol
01:11:19midknight2k3well
01:11:37midknight2k3i got tired of checking back every 5 seconds
01:11:40tracktheripperjust gonna get my beloved Arcgos
01:11:51midknight2k3get it?
01:12:02midknight2k3i thought you HAD one
01:12:13midknight2k3oh like fetch it
01:12:22tracktheripperYES!
01:12:29tracktheripperi have a beloved Recorder 10
01:12:34midknight2k3haa
01:12:46midknight2k3very beloved indeed
01:12:51tracktheripperyea
01:12:52midknight2k3at least
01:12:54tracktheripperI wouldn't change it for the world
01:12:59midknight2k3you havea recorder
01:13:04tracktheripperyea
01:13:10tracktherippernot a crass Player
01:13:45midknight2k3i would have a recorder 10 than a studio 30
01:13:45midknight2k3yes, 30 (three zero
01:13:51midknight2k3two lines, WHAT A JOKE!
01:13:53tracktheripperlol
01:14:01tracktheripperyea 2 lines of 11 character cells/!
01:14:09midknight2k3archos needs to discontinue those
01:14:13midknight2k3i mean that's just GAY
01:14:17midknight2k3two lines?
01:14:28tracktheripperthe Players have been discontinued!
01:14:32midknight2k3oh yes wow i have the song name and a progress bar he he
01:14:36midknight2k3really?
01:14:37tracktheripperWhy the hell did they put a useless LINE IN on the players!
01:14:43midknight2k3HA
01:14:46midknight2k3really they did?
01:14:57tracktheripperyea
01:15:03tracktheripperthe Line In on the Players is just for show
01:15:03midknight2k3oh my
01:15:05tracktheripperdoes nothing
01:15:15midknight2k3well DUH
01:15:29midknight2k3yes though recorders must be the best
01:15:34midknight2k3even better than ipods i think
01:15:45midknight2k3id rather have an archos recorder 10 than an ipod 30
01:15:51tracktheripperand WHY, WHY, WHY, do you navigate LEFT AND RIGHT to move the menu up and down on the Players!
01:15:59midknight2k3do you have one?
01:16:09tracktheripperi have a Recorder
01:16:18midknight2k3JUSt a recorder?
01:16:32tracktheripperyea
01:16:43tracktheripperto me the Ipod looks boring, the Archos looks like an MP3 player at least :-)
01:17:03midknight2k3AND
01:17:11midknight2k3the redcorder can do basically anything
01:17:23midknight2k3it just lets the firmware tell it what to display
01:17:35tracktheripperyea
01:17:38midknight2k3it doesn't have a HARD CODED charset or anything
01:17:40midknight2k3anything you want
01:17:42tracktheripper:-)
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01:17:47midknight2k3like WORMLET
01:17:48midknight2k3YAY
01:17:55midknight2k3hello
01:18:10midknight2k3I'm not crazy
01:18:19tracktheripperive strutted my funky stuff, jumped, ran, cruised with my Archos and it never ever skips :-)
01:18:37midknight2k3how could it lol?
01:18:46midknight2k3loads the crap into the buffer in about 2 seconds
01:18:51midknight2k3BUT
01:18:57tracktheripperand it plays 320kbs files flawlessely
01:18:57midknight2k3you have to beware of the squeek
01:19:09tracktheripperlol
01:19:13midknight2k3if you shake it when it's on and the rw heads arent locked
01:19:17tracktheripperthats just the Archos being happy :-)
01:19:19midknight2k3it will squeek and grind and DIE
01:19:28midknight2k3man it scared me once
01:19:31tracktherippermine never does that
01:19:39tracktherippermine has the trusty Hitachi hard drive
01:19:39midknight2k3i kneeled down and it beeped and it started granding
01:19:46tracktherippernot the crap Toshiba drive
01:19:51midknight2k3it was GRRRRRRRRING
01:19:58midknight2k3mine is hitachi too
01:20:19midknight2k3I was like 'oh no oh crap shut it off whadoido NOO!'
01:20:29tracktheripperlol
01:20:33tracktherippermine doesn't do that :-)
01:20:46midknight2k3right now im reasssembling my messed up merriam webster dictionary
01:21:47tracktheripperlol
01:21:59midknight2k3man i think i killed it
01:22:45midknight2k3there are three things i now know:
01:23:02midknight2k3archos rocks, my dictionary was expensive and sonicblue is almost dead
01:24:38tracktheripperawwwwwww
01:24:53midknight2k3what
01:25:03tracktheripperu killed ur Archos
01:25:09midknight2k3no!
01:25:11midknight2k3what?
01:25:27midknight2k3i think i killed my dictionary
01:25:59midknight2k3but the bateries are prolly just dead
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01:27:02midknight2k3how can he?
01:27:04midknight2k3hello!
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01:46:12Guest883015341crap!
01:46:34Guest883015341my midknight2k3 account is still here! how do i get it out
01:46:43Guest883015341if it involves clicking something forget it
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01:47:03Guest883015341yes!
01:47:07Guest883015341brb
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01:52:24midknight2k3Well
01:52:31midknight2k3hello
01:54:16midknight2k3what
01:55:37FranzKyou talking to youerself midknight?
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02:05:47midknight2k3ha
02:06:08midknight2k3well i was testing out the 'edit' box whatever that is
02:06:21midknight2k3'editbox'
02:06:41midknight2k3is no one here?
02:16:34FranzKnever heared about 'editbox'...
02:16:55midknight2k3in mirc
02:17:01midknight2k3is that what you're using?
02:17:39FranzKno - i'm using the Jpilot jIRC applet...
02:18:01midknight2k3the java rockbox roland thing?
02:18:38midknight2k3i used to use it but it always bugs me saying 'This version is not registered' every time you say something
02:19:06FranzKyeah... but you can not read that in the chat... its just on your screen...
02:19:14FranzKdid you try to register it??
02:19:20midknight2k3yeah but hey it's no big deal
02:19:28midknight2k3it's not mine
02:19:28midknight2k3i dunno
02:19:37midknight2k3i never tried - only the webhost can i think
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03:54:21Jet8810everybody, try to light a candle tonight, its Holocaust Remembrance Day...Yom HaShoah
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04:01:46midknight2k3hello?
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04:02:58midknight2k3glee! hello!
04:06:37elinenbehello there.
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04:09:34midknight2k3hi
04:09:39jzosshiya
04:10:18midknight2k3What is '^U^P^'?
04:10:30jzosslol. just got home.
04:10:37jzosstime to check da eeee-mail
04:10:49midknight2k3yeeee
04:11:25jzossand update my rockbox patches (haven't been touched in a month) =)
04:13:01midknight2k3ha
04:13:04midknight2k3hee
04:13:09midknight2k3im busy watching funny videos
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04:23:26midknight2k3nibbler?
04:26:03elinenbejzoss: how are you?
04:26:10jzosspretty good! =)
04:26:30jzossI haven't been around rockbox for a while... been out of town and upgrading my computer. =)
04:26:35elinenbejzoss: I haven't seen you around in a while. Any updates to your patches :)
04:26:50jzosshehe. That's what I'm working on now, actually.
04:27:08jzossHopefully will have the custom recording filenames patch out today, and the ID3 editor this weekend sometime
04:27:26elinenbereally −−- does your patch/es support free form filenames?
04:27:53elinenbesorry −− freeform genres...
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04:28:14jzossNo, there's another patch for freeform genres
04:28:31jzossI figured I'd let the powers that be decide about that patch first, and retrofit mine as necessary.
04:29:00elinenbeI see. Yeah, that is the patch I was talking about.
04:29:35midknight2k3Glee!
04:35:49elinenbeWhat is differnet in your new patch compared to the one already on the patch tracker? More ID3 fields?
04:36:28jzossNah. Just cleaned up (linus had some suggestions) and updated to work with recent CVS versions.
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05:13:34elinenbejzoss: I really like the style of your ID3 viewer −− I just like the whole patch in general. alot!
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05:14:03jzossthx. UI is just the default keyboard UI.
05:14:15jzossBut the back-end code needs some significant clean-up work. =)
05:14:35jzossPart of my fixing is also gonna be to preserve existing ID3 tags that rockbox doesn't support
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05:23:18Destkhowdy
05:23:43jzosshowdy!
05:24:13Destkjust heard about this rock box thing
05:24:23jzossdo you own an archos?
05:25:38Destkyea
05:25:42Destkstudio 20
05:26:02jzosscool. Download rockbox and try it out! =)
05:26:14jzossI almost guarantee you'll like it better than the default firmware.
05:26:19jzossOr at least many others do...
05:26:38Destkcan you go back the the default if you dont like it
05:26:39Destk?
05:26:43Destkerr to
05:26:56jzossyes
05:27:04Destkhow do i install it
05:28:10jzosscheck the manual at: http://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/manual.pdf
05:28:57jzossBut the short story is, just download a rockbox-2-0-player.tgz file and unzip it into your rockbox root directory
05:29:12jzossTo revert to the original firmware, there are two methods:
05:29:40Destki got the .zip
05:29:41jzoss1) delete (or rename) the archos.mod file that gets created in your root directory.
05:29:43Destkyea
05:30:00Destkhold up
05:30:12Destkunzip it into my rockbox root directory
05:30:13Destk?
05:30:15jzoss2) copy an archos firmware (??.mod) to your firmware from their website, and then "play" it from within rockbox.
05:30:23jzossSorry. ARCHOS root directory. On the devices.
05:30:36jzossSo like E:\ (or whatever) in windows
05:30:41Destkah
05:30:46Destkso unzip all the files
05:30:47Destk?
05:31:09jzossIt should have a .rockbox folder and a <something>.mod file. Right?
05:32:18Destkyea
05:32:24Destkall thats on my mp3 player now
05:32:48Destkso turn it on now and play the .mod?
05:33:09jzossReboot, and that's it!
05:33:20Destkok brb =)
05:33:31Destkhey
05:33:31jzossReboot your ARCHOS, not your computer. ;)
05:33:37Destkoh =p
05:33:40Destki was like wtf
05:33:57jzossMake sure you unmount the archos before unplugging it, right?
05:34:30Destkcan you make folders with passwords on here?
05:34:54jzossIt's a standard FAT32 file system, so I don't think so...but I'm not sure.
05:35:06jzossIf you can do it on a windows FAT partition, you can do it on the archos.
05:35:56Destka red light now?
05:36:13jzossred light??
05:37:13Destkyea
05:37:25Destkbeside the green one now, it used to be green
05:37:41Destkdisc spindown?
05:37:44jzoss?? As in, things aren't booting up, or what?
05:38:03jzossThe red light is used to show disc access. I don't know what the archos firmware uses it for
05:38:08Destknope its workign
05:38:13jzosscool.
05:38:13Destkjust this light used to be green
05:38:14Destknot red
05:38:48jzossHmmmm... {shrug}. I dunno. It's not constantly red, right? Just when the disk spins up?
05:39:10Destkyea
05:39:24jzossyah, that's expected.
05:39:49jzossTo get back to default (archos) firmware, the easiest way is to download a firmware "update" from archos's website.
05:40:17jzossCopy that file to somewhere on the archos disk, and rename to something like "archosFW.mod" (doesn't matter, just not the default)
05:40:41jzossIf you "play" that file in Rockbox, it'll load that archos firmware.
05:40:52jzossThen you can reboot (the archos) to get back into rockbox
05:41:14Destksleep timer is cool
05:41:37jzossYou should browse the manual. There's all sorts of cool features that are not immediately obvious. =)
05:42:20Destksee i had the old shit
05:42:22Destkwith only 999
05:42:24Destkso i made folders
05:42:27Destkfor each artist
05:42:37Destk276 artists
05:42:46jzossAhhh. Rockbox has some limits, too. But they're different than the Archos ones.
05:42:54Destkwhat do you mean
05:42:58jzossAnd configurable, if you want to compile it yourself...just change some constants in the source.
05:43:18jzossLimits on # of files in directory/playlist, etc.
05:44:03Destkwhat happends if u hit debuf
05:44:05Destkdebug
05:45:02jzossoh. It won't kill anything. It just displays a bunch of internal values to the screen
05:45:09jzossThat have no bearing on normal operation.
05:45:22jzossI checked those limits: 400 files/dir, 10,000 files/playlist
05:45:23Destkok when making a playlist
05:45:45Destki can make it on the player?
05:46:18jzosshttp://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/faq.html#53 (for size limits)
05:46:31jzossThere is currently very limited support for playlist-creation on the device
05:46:43jzossA full playlist editor is planned, but not yet implemented.
05:47:16jzossCurrently, you can directory-browse to a subdirectory. The menu option "Create Playlist" will then create a playlist with all files in that directory and subdirectories
05:47:49Destkah
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05:48:09Destkeasy to just make a playlist on winamp
05:48:11Destkthen put it on there
05:48:19jzossdefinitely
05:48:36jzossThat was the reason for the 400-files/directory limit, but 10,000 files/playlist
05:52:40Destkforgot where the save playlist button is
05:52:40Destkrofl
05:52:53Destkand now i find it
05:52:58jzosswtg
05:53:41Destkbrb
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05:57:34Destkback
05:59:38jzosshiya (again) =)
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06:01:42Destkwish they had gamse for this 1 =p
06:02:01jzosspeople have actually suggested game ideas...
06:02:09jzossMostly card-game based (blackjack)
06:02:26Destkfor the studio?
06:02:59jzossright.
06:03:28jzosscard games, 'cause you just need like 10 char-cells to represent a hand of 5 cards
06:05:01Destkdisk spindown
06:05:07Destkbattery capacity
06:05:20jzoss??
06:05:59Destkwahts that stuff
06:06:15jzossoption-wise?
06:06:51Destkyea
06:06:54Destkits in the options
06:07:09jzossdisk spindown: time to wait after disk spins up (for some action: directory browsing, caching MP3 data, etc) before spinning down
06:07:48jzossLonger spindown delay times might make it feel more "responsive" while you're track-skipping, but will suck more battery juice
06:08:47jzossbattery capacity: your player uses standard AA NiMH batteries. You can replace these with higher-capacity batteries if you want, for longer runtime between charges.
06:08:58Destkah
06:09:04jzossThe battery capacity option chooses what size batteries you use
06:09:24elinenbenice patch jzoss
06:09:26Destkohhh so their actually the same batteries?
06:09:30elinenbeis the ID3 patch coming too?
06:09:57jzossI haven't uploaded my updated rec-filename patch yet. =) But the ID3-edit patch should be forthcoming this weekend or so
06:09:57Destkwell guys im off =)
06:10:07jzosscya Destk. Enjoy your rockbox!
06:10:07Destkill be back later
06:10:16Destkthanks for the help jzoss
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06:10:41elinenbesounds great
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08:30:36Bagdermorning mats
08:32:01matslmorning
08:41:45thumorning
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09:07:45Bagdermorning dwihno
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09:28:00dwihnoHej Bagdern
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09:57:23ZagorI guess nobody really wants the redled bug fixed after all...
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10:08:54dwihnoZagor: I'm using the builds!
10:10:23Zagorgood
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10:23:25Quelsarukhi
10:23:29Bagderhi
10:23:32dwihnobueno
10:23:41Quelsarukbonito y barato :)
10:23:56>>>"explain *" by langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-020-032.dsl1.versanet.de)
10:24:09langhaarrockeroogabooga
10:26:52Quelsaruki feel my box will crash in 5 minutes or so...
10:27:25langhaarrockermine is crashing since 5 days
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10:37:33MTi can reliabley crash my rockbox by trying to set the time/date after losing power :)
10:38:10Zagordate is overrated :-)
10:38:18Zagorwhat happens?
10:42:37langhaarrockermt: lucky you. Mine crashes unreliably when trying to use buttons :(
10:43:51Quelsarukcoming bak in a minute
10:43:52Quelsaruk:)
10:43:59Quelsaruk*back
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10:45:31MTit trys to setup the date to be a 'good estimate', which usually has the year as ~2065 and the month as off the chart
10:45:59MTthen scrolling through the years to get it back to 2003, it suddenly comes up with "Sound Settings" as the year
10:46:07langhaarrockerlol
10:46:28MTthen, regardless of whether you press on or off to cancel, you get a crash
10:46:37MTi'll just replicate and get the code
10:47:53MT030427-2222 is the ver - its a bleeding edge from sunday iirc
10:48:12Zagoryay
10:48:25MTheh
10:48:33MTnow says the month is "Rockbox"
10:49:04MTooh, no error message this time, just complete lockup
10:50:16MTI04:IllInstr at 00000000
10:50:49langhaarrockerweired adress
10:51:33MTyep
10:54:17MT[ 676339 ] fm rec : battery display indicates incorrect values <<−− works for me, iirc fixed by one of mike holden's fm patches
10:55:00Zagorok
10:57:52MTi also had an 11 second mp3 repeat itself 6 or 7 times last night, no ideas on that [playing a ~3k file playlist, on shuffle, I suppose its possible it was in there 6 times, but shuffled all together?]
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11:13:34Quelsarukre-hi
11:14:05dwihnobueno
11:14:31dwihnoyo, feel the flow! que pasa paradox! :)
11:16:28Bagderhttp://hoopajoo.net/projects/soffice2html.html
11:16:37Bagdersounds like something for us
11:16:54Zagorneat
11:21:55Quelsarukhey! that's great :)
11:22:57*tm cowers, in danger of asking a very newbie question...
11:23:29tmI've read numerous warnings about 'ejecting' my jukebox before disconnecting it froma windows comp
11:23:37*Bagder prepares to laugh, long and hard ;-)
11:23:41tmif I use linux, is it sufficient to just umount it?
11:23:46Bagderyes
11:23:48tm:-)
11:23:48Quelsaruktm... i've survived here a long time, don't fear :P
11:24:05*tm *did* look at a lot of faqs first... :-)
11:24:14Bagderumount is perfectly fine
11:24:25tmgood good... now I've just got to remember to do that :-)
11:24:28Quelsarukumount == eject (windoze)
11:24:49tmI assumed the two would be the same, just didn't want to try it on my live toy :-)
11:25:07*tm makes a bid for smiliest person on ircstats....
11:26:53tmpresumably nowadays the feature list item that says fm tuner support is not in rockbox is now incorrect?
11:27:12Bagderno
11:27:15*tm guesses the recipient of rockbox email is lurking around here now...
11:27:15tmaha
11:27:21Bagderthere's no fm tuner support
11:27:28tmjust on the nightlies?
11:27:34Bagdernope
11:27:47Bagderthe FM recorder model is supported, yes
11:27:52BagderFM tuning is not
11:27:53tmaha....
11:27:58*tm apologises.....
11:28:03tmbeing dumb...
11:28:07Bagderhhe
11:28:08Bagderno worries
11:28:14tmany plans for support then?
11:28:23Bagderas soon as we have code ;-)
11:28:27langhaarrockerYesterday Linus claimed to have first contact with the fm chip. He was able to write / read some registers
11:28:27tmor is that another bit of proprietary hardware?
11:29:39Zagorno it's well documented
11:30:40*tm curses his metal body that he programs in java, not c... makes writing drivers so much more difficult ;-)
11:30:47Zagorlunch
11:31:22langhaarrockerZagor: good idea but a bit early
11:32:15Quelsarukbtw, we should ask developers to "document" a bit all new features, so it's easier to write them on the manual. Who knows better what a setting do than the person that developed it? :)
11:32:46langhaarrockerThe man who documents it :)
11:33:06BagderQuelsaruk: its been tried before, its next to impossible to make that happen
11:33:24Bagderthat's one reason why I write the digest
11:33:37*tm suspects ai will precede universally documented code
11:34:01Schnueffif manual would be in the cvs somehow, maybe it could encourage coders to write doc
11:34:15*langhaarrocker doesn't believe in ai, only in as
11:34:35Schnueffartificial stupidity? :)
11:34:46#>>"-)" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se)
11:34:48langhaarrockeryou got it!
11:35:28QuelsarukBagder: but it's not too dificult to write just a few notes about that setting
11:35:45BagderI know
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11:36:18Quelsarukafterwards i could test that and using my few neurons and the notes, wirte something on the manual :)
11:36:23Schnueffhm
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11:36:30Quelsaruk*write
11:36:33tracktherippermornin
11:36:33langhaarrockerBagder: be careful Quelsaruk tends to include those notes without improving them :)
11:36:40Bagderhaha
11:36:44Quelsarukhehe
11:36:44Schnueffor, as a convention, the patch tracker description should contain doc?
11:36:54Quelsaruklanghaarrocker: your notes were great
11:37:09QuelsarukSchnueff: a good idea :)
11:40:51QuelsarukBagder: anyway, the manual source file isn't on cvs, no?
11:41:22BagderI don't think so, we should poke Zagor
11:42:07langhaarrockerIs the manual soruce in xml?
11:42:28Bagderits openoffice format, which is xml in tar+gz file iirc
11:42:58Schnueffzip
11:43:09Bagderok
11:43:11Schnueffxml + binaries (pics) in zip
11:43:37langhaarrockerhm. Interesting to handle with cvs.
11:43:51Bagderyeah :-/
11:44:01QuelsarukBagder: just a thought, is it possible to have a pdf&html version for the official release manual, and generate a pdf file of bleeding edge manual as we do with the firmware?
11:44:22Bagdergood question
11:44:33Bagdercan you make a pdf with openoffice from the command line?
11:44:49Schnueffno idea
11:44:54Quelsarukummm
11:44:55Schnueffnever use oo
11:45:29Quelsarukme too
11:45:32Bagderpossibly there can be some external tool that enables it
11:45:50Quelsaruk.. in english is "neither i", no?
11:45:59langhaarrocker:)
11:46:06Bagder"me neither"
11:46:12Quelsarukyo tampoco
11:46:36Quelsaruk(it's amazing my spanish level)
11:46:37Quelsaruk;)
11:46:47langhaarrockerQuel: I often am amazed too, when I read what I typed. :)
11:46:48tracktheripperBadger if i want to compile the source code into ajbrec.ajz can I just download and use Gnush?
11:47:02Bagderyou need to follow the docs on the site
11:47:07Bagderbut I'd recommend the cygwin way
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11:47:28tracktheripperwhich method is more idiot-proof?
11:47:31Quelsaruki recommend cygwin too (that minimal sdk enviroment)
11:47:37MTwhat format is the manual in? (the xml)
11:47:38Quelsarukcygwin
11:47:49tracktheripperok
11:47:50BagderMT: openoffice
11:48:00tracktheripperwhen I get my ADSL set up ill try the cigwin way
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11:48:07tracktheripperjust ordered it yesterday
11:48:09Schnueffxml.openoffice.org
11:48:20MThmm, it would surely be easier in docbook :/
11:48:24*MT reads
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11:49:22tracktheripperBadger when using Cigwin somewhere on the site it says "Put these in your PATH" What is the PATH?!
11:49:34Bagderan environment variable
11:49:43tracktheripperyea, which is?
11:49:50MTtracktheripper: windows version?
11:49:55tracktheripperyes
11:50:01tracktheripperim using Windows XP
11:50:28MTright click my computer, properties, advanced, enviroment variables
11:50:38tracktheripperbut when my mate lends me his copy of Partition Magic im gonna try Linux
11:50:48Quelsaruktracktheripper: on "my computer" press the right mouse button, properties, go to enviroment, and locate the "path"
11:50:54Quelsarukouch
11:50:57langhaarrockerHm. Is "The Cygwin Way" a trademark, a religious doctrina, or a philosophy of martial arts?
11:50:58Quelsarukmt was faster than me
11:50:59Quelsaruk;)
11:51:11MTi shouldnt bother, its sucky on the desktop (my personal opinion, dont flame :)
11:51:12tracktheripperhang on
11:51:35Quelsaruklanghaarrocker: it's part of tai chi style :)
11:51:57MTi think linux is brilliant for lots of things, being a desktop enviroment isnt one of them, altho gnome is getting pretty \o/
11:52:00tracktheripperwell i prefer to use Gnush since its only one self-installing file to download
11:52:12langhaarrockerQuel: no, thats a way of sneezing.
11:52:12Quelsarukcygwin lets you use uplang and binlang, while using gnush you have to install perl...
11:52:19MTcygwin is very good
11:52:38MT"Makes Windows bearable" (tm) (c)
11:52:41tracktheripperthe path is showing somewhere in system 32/root
11:53:04QuelsarukMT: gave you ever tried enlightenment? i love it :P (but i'm a strange man)
11:53:11Quelsaruklogbot define Quelsaruk
11:53:22#>>"explain Quelsaruk" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se)
11:53:22Quelsaruklogbot explain Quelsaruk
11:53:25Quelsaruk:)
11:53:45>>>"pass" used by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented]
11:53:56>>>"sview -a quelsaruk" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se)
11:54:12Quelsarukcoffee time
11:54:18>>>"sview -a -r quelsaruk" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se)
11:54:31Quelsaruki hope my computer doesn't hang while i'm away
11:54:34MTQuelsaruk: its not really the wm (altho that is a part of it) : my desktop consists of 2 x 21" monitors and a 18" TFT, and I find XFree86 to be completely awful at dealing with them
11:54:37>>>"usermod -P - quelsaruk" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se)
11:54:40>>>"sview -a quelsaruk" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se)
11:56:42tracktheripperthose LEP screens look cool
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11:57:50MTLEP?
11:58:02tracktheripperLight Emitting Polymer
11:58:09MTi cant afford new screens, these ones cost me enough ;o)
11:58:18tracktheripperthey are going to replace TFT screens in a few years time
11:58:37MTyeah, im not completely sold on tft's yet
11:58:54MT1280x1024 is a big limit for me
11:58:59tracktheripperLEPs Do Not dim when viewed off centre since they don't need a backlight
11:59:08tracktheripperLEPs generate their own light like a CRT monitor
11:59:54MThowever, DVI on most prosumer cards has a 1280x1024 resolution limit - not ideal
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12:01:06tracktheripperim too scared to buy a TFT MT
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12:19:49ZagorMT: I run dvi & 1600x1200. standard geforce card.
12:21:15MTreally? i swear the docs for my radeon say that DVI is only supported upto 1280x1024
12:21:52Zagorstrange
12:22:10ZagorI love my 20.5" TFT screen
12:22:20langhaarrockersounds expensive
12:22:31dwihnoNaaah :-) Monopoly money! :D
12:22:32Zagornot as expensive as you'd think
12:22:43MTthe problem is really with X, i find it totally rubbish for multimonitor
12:23:18Zagorok. i haven't tried running multimonitor with it, but I know a lot of people do. (some run crazy things like 3x2 config!)
12:23:38tms/crazy/rich/ :-)
12:24:50MTits ok if you dont want accelerated opengl and have multiple screens all of the same res, or like having 3 different taskbars ... :)
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12:34:06Kinslayerok this is probably a reuglar one, but there's no mention on the website or FAQ. i've seen alot of very mixed reviews for the various jukeboxes, most seem to indicate that the device is awesome if used with rockbox. whats the final take, and, particularly, would it be better to get a JBR20 rather than the JBR FM20? (which seems to be more reliable. i know there is presently no FM playback support in rockbox)
12:35:09langhaarrockerI think thats a radio vs proprietary lithium pack question
12:35:32Kinslayeri.e. nimh is better?
12:35:59Kinslayeron cnet the fmr got 51% thumbs down as opposed to the jbr getting 78% thumbs up
12:35:59langhaarrockerits more expensive to replace lithium packs when they wear out
12:36:39langhaarrockerOn the other hand l think the fm recorder is a little bit smaller.
12:36:48Kinslayeroh and theres no car kit for the fmr :>
12:37:01Kinslayeryeah ok. thanks :)
12:37:14Kinslayerthink im gonna go for the non FM... pity tho
12:38:36langhaarrockerThat would be my choice, too. I have many NiMh batteries and many devices that use them. I always have a charged set at hand.
12:39:46Kinslayeri wanna try get some 2000 mah and do the ram upgrade, try get 16 hrs :>
12:41:12langhaarrockerI didn't do the mem upgrade because I don't think that those additional 30% are worth the effort. I prefer having a spare set of batteries with me.
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12:42:01langhaarrockerQuel: sober again? :)
12:42:18quelsaruksober?
12:42:52quelsaruki need a new english dictionary
12:42:54quelsaruk;)
12:42:54langhaarrockercoffee is the stereotype No 1 cure against alcohol problems
12:43:01quelsarukhehe
12:43:04langhaarrockersober = not on alkohol
12:43:05quelsaruknot really
12:43:21quelsaruka beer is the best solution for alcohol problems :)
12:45:12quelsarukanyway
12:46:15quelsaruk... i forgot what i was going to say. This is dangerous :)
12:46:36Bagderhave another beer, it might come back then ;-)
12:47:34quelsaruk:P
12:47:45langhaarrockerQuel: if you feel torn afterwards - don't mind. That's only the beer fighting the coffee in your guts.
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13:02:16juzhello do you know how can use my recoder on the recovery console of XP??
13:02:44Bagderrecovery console?
13:03:47Zagorhere's my monitor, btw: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dfh&cs=22&sku=320-4105
13:04:32juzwhen you install XP you can choose "Repair" and it lunch the recovery console
13:05:12Bagderwell I have no clues
13:06:05juzsorry i m french, wath is clues??
13:07:28langhaarrockerclues ~ tip
13:07:45langhaarrockeror hint
13:08:39juzok thank you
13:08:53langhaarrockerZagor: that can't be 20". The image fits in my screen completely and I have a 19" monitor. :)
13:09:09Zagorhaha
13:10:04langhaarrockerIs that the price you paid? ($999)
13:10:30Zagora bit more, I think. I bought it almost a year ago
13:10:50Zagori've seen places advertise it for as little as $750
13:11:07Zagorover a year ago, actually...
13:11:22Zagortime flies...
13:11:49langhaarrockerholiday comes -> Phil flies
13:11:54Zagorhaha
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13:35:28juzso tou don t know how can i plug my recorder on recovery console????
13:36:53quelsarukZagor, i get cvs [commit aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) every time i try to commit a file. :(
13:37:20Zagorhmm, strange
13:39:26quelsaruki know
13:40:38quelsarukreaaaaally strange
13:41:13langhaarrockerjuz: I have no idea
13:42:25*langhaarrocker is stuffed with chineese duck now
13:42:26langhaarrockerbelch
13:44:26Schnueffmakes you fly better
13:44:52Bagderquelsaruk: is your CVS_RSH variable set?
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13:48:18quelsarukit should be
13:49:31quelsarukyesterday, and earlier this morning i was able to checkout cvs using my username. but not now :(
13:50:15quelsarukummm
13:50:20quelsaruknow it worked
13:50:32quelsarukand i din't have to sacrifice a goat :)
13:51:14quelsarukChecking in espanol.lang;
13:51:14quelsaruknew revision: 1.10; previous revision: 1.9
13:51:14quelsarukdone
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13:52:22Schnueffhm unicode now
13:54:24Schnueffis this intended?
13:54:38Zagorthe lang file?
13:54:47Schnueffyeah, looks like
13:54:58Zagorboo. quelsaruk, which editor are you using?
13:55:11quelsarukumm
13:55:16Schnueffword?
13:55:17Schnueff:)
13:55:24quelsaruki used vi, but then i used gedit
13:55:26quelsarukshit
13:55:37quelsarukdon't tell me gedit did some nasty things there
13:55:38quelsaruk:(
13:55:50Zagorlooks like it did..
13:56:54quelsarukok.. i'll modify that
13:57:08quelsarukanother thing
13:57:27quelsaruki can see 3 different french languages at the patch tracker
13:57:52quelsaruki should "close" the older ones and close&accept the latest, no?
13:59:35quelsaruki don't see anything strange using vi :(
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14:00:34Schnueffvim converts this so you dont see anything strange, i guess
14:01:15Schnueffin vim, what does :echo &fileencoding say?
14:04:50quelsaruknothing :)
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14:05:07Schnueffhm
14:06:25Schnueffif i open espanol.lang in vim, it looks bad
14:06:35quelsarukok... i found what was wrong
14:06:35Schnueff(i.e. unicode strings in it)
14:07:29quelsarukon getid setings: "save existing file using UTF-8 codification" (more or less, it's my translation :)
14:11:49Zagorquelsaruk: you should check to see the three versions contain the same changes. if they conflict, you should take it up on the list
14:12:27quelsarukok zagor
14:13:09quelsarukBagder: i've seen a russian.lang assigned to you. Will you commit that files then?
14:14:04Bagderyes, as soon as I get a proper name for it
14:16:01quelsaruk:)
14:18:33Schnueffi have a russion sitting here next desk
14:18:36Schnueffshall i ask him?
14:18:41Schnueffrussian even
14:19:40quelsaruk:)
14:19:45Bagderplease do
14:19:50Schnueffw8
14:26:48Schnueffhm
14:26:53Schnueffseems to be complicated :)
14:26:59Bagderhehe
14:27:08Schnueffhe says, with non-cyrillic letters its easier to understand if one writes 'russian'
14:27:12Schnueff(in english)
14:27:20Schnueffand with cyrillic letters, the russian word
14:29:17Bagderso 'russkij' is not good enough?
14:29:56Schnueffhm he just left room to see some friends :)
14:30:19Bagderdamned those people with friends! ;-P
14:30:46BagderI'll go and buy an ice cream then
14:30:54Zagori'm outta here
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14:31:14langhaarrockerHas Zagor friends, too?
14:31:42quelsarukzagor?
14:31:44quelsarukfriends?
14:31:51quelsaruknot possible
14:32:21langhaarrocker"Codepolizei, Dein Freund und Helfer" :)
14:34:30Schnueffheh
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14:35:38Schnueffhe insists, russian better than russkij and best ist in unicode
14:38:23Schnueff(unicode: 0440 0443 0441 0441 043A 0438 0439)
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14:43:10Bagderok then, russian it is
14:47:32quelsaruklunch time!
14:48:02quelsarukcu later... maybe :)
14:49:49quelsarukummm
14:50:00quelsarukBagder: one last question before i leave
14:50:19Bagderyes?
14:50:22quelsaruki can't change italian patch status
14:50:39quelsarukdo you know why?
14:50:40BagderI'll check
14:50:47quelsaruk:)
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14:51:42Bagdertry now
14:52:14quelsarukthis is another thing :)
14:52:18quelsarukthx
14:52:20quelsarukcu later
14:52:23Bagderbye
14:53:11quelsarukah!
14:53:36quelsarukshould i assign all language files on the patch tracker to me?
14:54:18BagderI think I can make them assigned to you automaticly
14:55:03Bagderbut I think usign the "assigned-to" is generally a good thing
14:55:27Bagderstarting now, new patches using the language category will be assigned to you by auto
14:59:39quelsarukthx
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15:19:01groovingandiJust a test posting
15:20:46Bagderwe read you!
15:21:18groovingandiGreat, I'm new to this and didn't notice any traffic
15:23:36Bagdernah, its rather quiet now
15:24:57groovingandigood to see my installation and configuration works
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16:48:23BagderI'm getting a few replies from ppl wanting a digest mailing list
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16:59:45O_GovindaHello. . . .
16:59:50Bagderhi
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17:00:00O_GovindaHi! Congratulations to all for 2.0.
17:00:06Bagderthanks
17:00:31O_GovindaAnd high praise for your suggestions for new keymapping.
17:00:58Bagderah, glad you like it
17:01:04O_GovindaCould I offer a couple of comments about that?
17:01:09Bagdercertainly
17:01:36O_GovindaI thought that Joaquim's interface had 2 points worth keeping. . .
17:02:08O_GovindaFirst, I liked the way he reserved the "play" button for "play," "record," and "pause."
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17:02:43Bagderyou mean in all screens ?
17:02:56O_GovindaI know that it may perhaps create a bit of inconsistency. . . But having that button always there for "pause" is useful.
17:02:58elinenbeI think splash should be used more often.
17:03:02elinenbe)
17:03:14O_GovindaYes, I do mean in all the screens. For example. . .
17:03:32O_GovindaI might be in the "Directory" screen and still might want to pause what I'm listening to.
17:03:46O_GovindaDitto for "settings" screens.
17:05:26O_GovindaAnd for "select," "right arrow" is always consistently available.
17:06:17O_GovindaAre there disadvantages?
17:06:19Bagderelinenbe: I agree about that
17:06:33BagderO_Govinda: just different opinions, I guess
17:07:10O_GovindaSure, "different opinions" is always what makes things fun.
17:07:39Bagderyeah :-)
17:08:16O_GovindaAnd−−more praise, if you don't mind−−I think the RB team has done quite splendidly in dealing with that sort of multiplicity.
17:08:57O_GovindaCan I throw in the second item for my "different opinion"?
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17:09:06Bagderplease do
17:09:49O_GovindaI really liked the way Joaquim put essentially the entire "sound settings" menu on one page, accessible by an F-key.
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17:10:10Bagderyeah, I want that sound settings "screen" as well
17:10:17O_GovindaOh, good!
17:10:25Bagderbut I'd prefer to have the bars horizonal
17:10:38O_GovindaHe had it as F1, but it looks to my like in your scheme F2 would be a good candidate.
17:10:49O_GovindaHorizontal would be fine with me!
17:11:43Bagderwell, I don't think we need to have the sound settings that quickly accessible so that we must sacrifice a key solely for that purpose
17:12:34O_GovindaWell, I saw that F2 was mainly empty. But I suppose a key combination would serve.
17:12:58Bagderwhy not just do f1 to reach the menu and then sound config?
17:13:21O_GovindaYou mean a new option, "Sound Config"?
17:13:53O_GovindaBecause the way it is now, the "sound settings" are each separate, one to a secreen.
17:13:54Bagdersound settings is a menu option already
17:13:56O_Govinda(screen)
17:13:59Bagderyes
17:14:09Bagderbut I envision an improved sound settings screen
17:14:15langhaarrockerbtw: I'll have some time on the weekend to go on with assignable keys. I fixed some conflicts lately -> I'll be up to date soon
17:14:49O_GovindaBagder: That is, as we were talking about, all the settings visible at once?
17:15:00Bagderyes
17:15:03O_GovindaBeautiful.
17:15:06Bagderlanghaarrocker: nice
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17:17:45O_GovindaWell, thank you again, Bagder. And thanks to all.
17:17:57*Bagder bows, you're welcome
17:18:48O_GovindaWhen I'm a little more used to IRC, I'll be quicker at bowing in return. :-)
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17:19:31langhaarrockerBagder: can you help me with makefiles?
17:19:46Bagderin a minute, gotta run off for a while
17:19:58langhaarrockerI'll need two minutes anyway :)
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17:27:27langhaarrockerBackground: I want to write a tool that generates a *.c file that hardcodes the default keyscheme.
17:27:27langhaarrockerThis tool has it's core source in the tools dir but relies on some loading routines of a file in the apps dir
17:28:54langhaarrockerNow I need a makefile that builds an executable including both, sources from the tools dir and the apps dir.
17:32:20langhaarrocker(the file in the apps dir has to be #ifdefed so that only the shared code is used for the tool)
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17:35:24TBoyhoi
17:35:26TBoyehm
17:35:52TBoyis it normal that when you go from 10% bass boost on the fm that the music skips
17:35:58TBoyor on the recorder
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17:36:25langhaarrockerno
17:36:50TBoyso is it a bug
17:37:08langhaarrockerIs it reproducable?
17:37:15TBoyI mean when you go from 10% bass boost to 0%
17:37:18TBoyyes
17:37:26TBoyI can do it when ever I want
17:37:51TBoyjust go higher the bass boost to 10 or 20% and then down to 0% again
17:38:08TBoythen it should skip between 10 and 0
17:38:22langhaarrockermy unit currently is broken so I can't test
17:38:26TBoyI don't use it but I just noticed the other day
17:38:30TBoywell mine too
17:38:31TBoyhehe
17:38:53TBoydid you send it to archos germany
17:38:54langhaarrockerDoes it skip forward or backward?
17:39:19TBoyno it justs like stops for a sec and starts to play again, only a split second
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17:40:20langhaarrockerdoes it stop and then continue from the same point or does it mute while the song goes on?
17:40:31tracktheripperhi
17:42:26TBoyno it continues on the same spot
17:42:36TBoywhat I meant was like a sound skip
17:42:50TBoysorry should have expressed myself abit more
17:43:00langhaarrockerthats strange
17:43:15groovingandiHi, i just tested this on my ajbr20 and i can reproduce it
17:43:31groovingandiit sound like a short mute for me, not a skip
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17:43:59TBoyok could be since it is only like a split second
17:44:03groovingandifunny thing: it depends on sound settings, but i haven't evaluated yet on which
17:44:50TBoywell shall this be submitted
17:45:13langhaarrockercheck if there's a bug report already.
17:45:26groovingandii have two cfg files, one for my hifi and one for my headphones, i tested it with the hifi-setting and could reproduce it immediately. I wanted to test it on the headphones to hear it better and it was gone
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17:50:58TBoythere is no
17:51:01TBoybug report
17:51:28langhaarrockerso go for it :)
17:51:30groovingandimore results: it happens only if volume is above 85% and i'm quite sure that it's a short mute (i tested it with better material)
17:52:26langhaarrockergood digging
17:52:53groovingandii'm not quite sure, but i also had the impression there was a slight difference between the two channels
17:53:11groovingandibut this difference was more or less random
17:53:30langhaarrockerlike one channels mutes longer than the other?
17:54:23groovingandiyes
17:54:46langhaarrockervery strange.
17:55:28groovingandiindeed
17:57:00groovingandicorrection: it only happens if volume is above 85% for certain bass and treble settings
17:57:28groovingandiif i increase bass, treble and loudness i can reproduce it with smaller volumes, also
17:58:05groovingandiperhaps it has got something to do with some kind of overdrive protection?
17:59:14*langhaarrocker doesn't know
17:59:34BagderI think its a MAS artifact
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18:00:33langhaarrockermaybe the thing is initialized on some value transitions.
18:02:15langhaarrockerBagder: have you read my makefile issues above?
18:02:39groovingandiI just checked with original firmware and couldn't reproduce it there
18:04:21Bagderlanghaarrocker: I did, can't you do it like the generate_rocklatin is built?
18:04:34*langhaarrocker looks
18:07:04Bagderwell, not quite like that perhaps
18:09:28*langhaarrocker tries to quick-fix some syntax errors
18:09:35langhaarrockerIt might work
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18:17:38langhaarrockerBagder: thanks build succeds :) Now I only must get the content into the *.c files
18:17:50Bagder;-)
18:19:44langhaarrockerThis weekend I can work on key bindings, next week I'm on holiday. If then there's no wind for surfing nor paragliding I should finish this part of source. Then we can discuss wether the Fx keys are the only ones to be user assignable.
18:20:28Bagderok!
18:23:46langhaarrockerAre there any caveats about the simwin32? As my recorder is broken and I'm not sure wether I manage to fix it I might have to develop on it completely.
18:25:10BagderI don't know
18:25:43langhaarrockerIs still VC the only compiler the thing has been built with successfully?
18:26:51Bagderthere have been succesful builds with cygwin as well
18:27:06langhaarrockeryippieh!
18:35:31langhaarrockerwhich file is supposed to contain rockbox_fprintf ?
18:38:33Bagderthat's a define trick
18:38:53Bagderthe sprintf.h in the sim dirs redfine fprintf to rockbox_fprintf
18:39:09Bagderso the sprintf.c contains that function when built in the simulator
18:39:29*langhaarrocker investigates
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18:54:17langhaarrockerThat 'blinking' cvs server drives me nuts
18:54:34Bagderblinking?
18:54:53langhaarrockersometimes its on, sometimes its off. I never know is it the server or me that fails.
18:55:08Bagderright
18:55:11Bagderits annoying
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18:55:53Quelsaruki'm back
18:56:04BagderHIIIIII
18:56:08Bagder:-)
18:56:22*Quelsaruk fears Bagder
18:56:27Quelsarukplease.. don't kill me
18:56:43langhaarrockerWas it you who killed the cvs server?!
18:56:50Quelsarukummm
18:56:57Quelsaruki hope not
18:56:58Quelsaruk:)
18:57:08Quelsarukbut i made something strange with portuguese
18:57:11Quelsarukor italian
18:57:14Quelsarukit was italian
18:57:27langhaarrockeris it now italianguese?
18:58:18Quelsarukyups
18:58:19Quelsaruk:)
18:59:13*langhaarrocker doesn't care about such minor ethnical groups like italians, portugueses or germans.
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19:00:06Quelsarukummm
19:01:12QuelsarukBagder: italian.lang cvs is ok :)
19:01:25Bagderok
19:01:27Bagdergood
19:02:01langhaarrockercvs still doesn't work.
19:02:14langhaarrockerQuel: could you be so kind as to commit a goat? :)
19:02:39Quelsarukhehe...
19:02:55Quelsaruka 100% carbon goat?
19:03:07langhaarrockerlol
19:03:07Quelsarukor sandwich tech goat?
19:03:25Quelsarukfreestyle goats, of course ;)
19:03:35Quelsarukyou can use them for whatever you want
19:03:37langhaarrockerIf the wind is right I might be windsurfing on monday.
19:03:45Quelsaruk:)
19:03:47Quelsarukcool.
19:03:54Quelsaruki think i can practice tomorrow
19:04:03Bagdercool in the water at least
19:04:24*langhaarrocker envies quelsaruk.
19:04:44langhaarrockerBagder: I have a nice dry suit -> I don't get in touch with water.
19:04:58Bagderaaah
19:05:00Bagderchicken
19:05:01Bagder;-)
19:05:14Quelsaruklanghaarrocker: i have a summer dry suit. and last week water's temp was only 16C
19:05:24Quelsaruki'm a brave man ;)
19:05:28Quelsarukor maybe only crazy
19:05:42Bagder16? that's what we get up here in the end of a long hot summer ;-)
19:05:55langhaarrockerBagder: no, it's ducks when speaking about water.
19:06:24Bagdersorry, windsurfer lingo is not my native language ;-)
19:06:45langhaarrockerIn Sweden? you'll be talking about air temparature then. :)
19:09:56Quelsarukhttp://www.naishsails.com/boards_enduro_boards.asp#90
19:10:12Quelsaruktake a look at my board (if you want)
19:11:40BagderI prefer kayaking
19:12:08langhaarrockerNah, to exhausting. Let the wind do the work.
19:16:20langhaarrockerQuel: My board is slightly different. Its yellow.
19:19:09Quelsarukbut that length?
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19:19:52tracktheripperhello
19:19:54langhaarrockerabout 265, I think. A Mistral screamer. And its yellow.
19:19:58langhaarrockerhi
19:20:32Quelsaruksounds great ;)
19:20:38tracktheripperhi langha
19:20:40Quelsarukhi tracktheripper
19:21:01>>>"pass" used by langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-020-032.dsl1.versanet.de) [snoop prevented]
19:21:21tracktheripperhi quels
19:21:29tracktheripperanything new and ex citing?
19:21:36>>>"say Hi tracktheripper" by langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-020-032.dsl1.versanet.de)
19:21:43tracktheripperhi logbot
19:21:44tracktheripper:-)
19:22:36langhaarrockersome bugs, some plans - the usual
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19:23:26tracktheripperyea
19:23:31tracktheripperand the usual funny requests
19:24:38Bagderyeps
19:24:44BagderFM tuning coming up again
19:25:22tracktheripperwhich one badger?
19:25:40Bagder#730245
19:25:52tracktheripperok
19:26:29tracktheripperlol
19:27:00tracktheripperwhos gonna write the "software tuner"?
19:27:04langhaarrockerI once had that cheap guitar amp....
19:27:06BagderYOU!
19:27:12langhaarrockerme?
19:27:39Bagderanyone
19:27:41Bagder:-)
19:28:05tracktheripperbadger just glue a pocket radio to it and line-in :-)
19:28:11langhaarrockerAh, that's easy. Just show an image saying "Please insert antenna for receiving FM!"
19:28:44Bagder"to start listening, use your mouse and double-click here => [ ]"
19:29:07langhaarrockerI could finish that till 1. Apr. 2004
19:29:09tracktheripperso i take it that request will be fixed soon? ;-)
19:29:19Quelsarukummm
19:29:24Quelsaruki know this will sound weird
19:29:26Bagdersoon? that's almost a year left ;-)
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19:30:03Quelsarukbut i had yesterday night a graphical sub-menu idea, using some kind of splash-window
19:30:15langhaarrockerAnd then nobody will bother because Archos will have discontinued all devices that don't display movies.
19:30:43Bagderwe should think of more "splash" kind of windows, they're great eye candy
19:31:03tracktheripperyea and use up too much code...........
19:31:15Quelsarukof course
19:31:21Bagdercode is good
19:32:21QuelsarukBagder: i was thinking in some graphical menu like dwhino's one, and using splash submenus for those settings that have more than a yes/no answer
19:32:26Quelsaruklike for example repeat
19:32:34Quelsarukthat have all/one/no
19:32:54tracktheripperand what about those who don't have recorders??????/
19:33:06Bagderwe ignore them as usual ;-)
19:33:10langhaarrockerthey'll be discontinued
19:33:22tracktheripperthats not the attitude Badger
19:33:25BagderQuelsaruk: I think that would be really cool
19:33:48Bagderthen note the ";-)" up there
19:33:53QuelsarukBagder: let me think about this and maybe next morning i'll show you an example :)
19:34:03Bagdersure
19:34:09BagderI'm looking forward to it
19:34:22tracktheripperand maybe include that in the bleeding edges
19:34:22tracktheripper:-)
19:35:49Bagderbbl
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19:37:03quel|outtime for seek and destroy ;)
19:37:18langhaarrockerQuelke? :)
19:37:57quel|outhehe ;)
19:38:11tracktheripperdestroy all Players :-)
19:38:19langhaarrockerlol
19:38:39langhaarrockerI must get the bus
19:38:41*langhaarrocker leaves you all alone
19:38:43quel|outcu!
19:38:47quel|outnext week
19:38:49quel|out:)
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19:39:19quel|outi love this loooong weekend
19:39:27quel|outfrom wednesday till sunday :)
19:41:14elinenbequel|out: have you done anything with the idea of splash menus?
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20:11:09quel|outnot yet
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20:11:13quel|outwhy elinenbe?
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20:22:12Guesthello
20:23:08quel|outhi Guest
20:24:17Guestwondering if anyone could help me with a problem
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20:25:21Guestsorry to jump right to my needs!
20:26:11quel|out:)
20:26:15quel|outdon't worry
20:26:17quel|outshoot
20:26:37Guestthanks
20:26:50Guesti installed 2.0
20:27:15Guestand occasionally got this message: "Dir Buffer is full"
20:27:25quel|outajam
20:27:37Guestanyway, earlier my archos stopped working
20:27:41quel|outdo you have more than 400 files/folders on that directory?
20:27:52Guestyes
20:27:59Guesthow exactly do you break up directories?
20:28:12Guesti've been doing it just by having different folders
20:28:37Guestbut now the real problem is that it's not working at all
20:28:51quel|outwait a minute...
20:28:53quel|outpliz
20:28:59Guestsure sure, sorry
20:29:02Guestthanks!
20:36:07quel|outI'M BACK
20:36:10quel|outupps
20:36:12quel|outsorry
20:36:13quel|out:)
20:36:14elinenbequel|out: I was just wondering −− it sounds like a great idea
20:37:20quel|outthx elinenbe :) i have to develop it a bit more and study the code. I hope to have a basic and small menu working for monday. So we can discuss about it :)
20:38:04quel|outGuest: if you have more than 400 files inside a folder... it won't work.
20:38:36Guestgotcha. thanks.
20:38:43quel|outelinenbe: the 400 files inside a dir is recurrent? i mean, that includes subdirs?
20:38:59quel|outno
20:39:00quel|out:)
20:39:01quel|outsorry
20:39:12quel|outi answered my own question
20:39:15quel|outhehe
20:39:16Guest:)
20:39:18quel|outi'm asleep
20:39:33Guestso any clue as to how to get my archos working again?
20:39:37quel|outtry to divide that dir into a lot of sub-dirs
20:39:56Guestevery time i start it i get the ARCHOS startup screen and it freezes
20:40:17quel|outummm
20:40:23quel|outthat doesn't sound good
20:40:43Guestyeah . . .
20:40:44quel|outare batteries charged?
20:40:53Guesti'm charging them now
20:41:06Guestbut they should be fairly charged at this point
20:43:46quel|outtry to press ON button for nearly 5 seconds
20:43:52quel|outor more
20:43:53quel|out:)
20:44:19quel|outand try to plug archos to your computer and check hd integrity...
20:45:06quel|outif archos freezes while booting, maybe is while trying to load ajbrec.ajz (archos.mod) from HD
20:46:10Guestthanks will try now. :-)
20:46:10Gueststill didn't work. (really appreciate your help.) any other ideas?
20:46:25quel|outi'm thinking
20:46:30quel|outbut never had that problem
20:46:31Guestthanks so much
20:46:36quel|outelinenbe: any idea?
20:46:50Guesti tried plugging it into the computer, but no luck there either
20:46:51quel|outand you Schnueff?
20:47:28quel|outwhile charging?
20:48:52Guestschueff?
20:49:25Guestschnueff, rather
20:49:28Guest?
20:50:18quel|out?
20:52:58Guestoh sorry, misread earlier
20:54:39quel|out:)
20:54:47Guest:)
20:54:48quel|outi have no ideas...
20:54:52quel|outtry to sacrifice a goat
20:54:53quel|out:)
20:55:00Guest;)
20:55:00 Nick quel|out is now known as quelsaruk (~jose@faerun.ugr.es)
20:55:36Guestcan i ask archos for help?
20:56:59quelsarukyou can... but i don't know if they will answer you
20:57:37quelsaruki'm still waiting their answer for a problem i had 1 1/2 years ago
20:58:56Guest!
20:58:59Guestuh oh
20:59:04Guestgood thing i got a warranty i guess
20:59:44quelsaruk:)
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21:00:26quelsarukcome back later... or tomorrow, maybe someone can help you then
21:00:51Guestwill do. thanks so much. :)
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21:09:29quelsarukcu on friday!
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21:44:01Bagdergooood evening
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21:51:55elinenbehi there
21:52:17BagderI have a weird hack added to my Rockbox that looks neat
21:52:31Bagderit says "next song is XXXX" when 5 secs remains of a song
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22:30:40tracktheripperello
22:30:41tracktheripper@D
22:30:42tracktheripper:D
22:30:46Bagderhi
22:30:53tracktheripperhi Bagder
22:31:26tracktheripperi can't help reading it as Badger :)
22:31:42BagderI can understand that
22:31:58tracktheripperlol
22:32:02tracktheripperno offence or anything :-)
22:32:25tracktheripperim just excited about getting my ADSL soon :-)
22:32:30Bagderadsl is cool
22:32:41*Bagder has a 2.5 mbit one
22:32:42tracktheripperyea ive just ordered it :-)
22:34:30tracktherippermine is just a standard 512kbs one, which is more than fast enough
22:34:46Bagderit can never get fast enough! ;-)
22:35:54tracktheripperthe Achille's heel is that the faster the bandwidth, the more arsholes you get using it up with Kaazaa and the like
22:36:05Bagderyeps
22:36:25tracktherippertheres been a lot of complaints over people using all the bandwitdh to use Kaazaa
22:37:10tracktheripperand if everyone is using the bandwidth to share files its slower than dial-up!"
22:39:30tracktheripperBagder I was thinking once every feasible feature is put into Rockbox, does that spell the end of Rockbox?
22:39:50Bagderyes
22:39:59Bagderthat'll be in the year 2017
22:40:14tracktheripperthat will really please Zagor you saying that!
22:41:27tracktheripper:-P
22:42:35tracktheripperwhy is AOL so damn slow these days!
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22:43:54tracktheripper:-(
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22:48:08tracktheripper:-)
22:50:39tracktheripperI think Bagder is upset over my latest feature request
22:50:40tracktheripper:-)
22:57:25Bagdersee ya
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23:02:02groovingandihey
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