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#rockbox log for 2003-05-23

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00:58:31midknight2k3yay
00:58:37midknight2k3hello
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01:00:10 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)")
01:00:33midknight2k3goodbye to you too
01:00:51midknight2k3Who here has a player/studio model/
01:03:01 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m198.net195-132-85.noos.fr)
01:03:04BoD[]hiiiiiiiiiiii
01:03:30midknight2k3lo bob
01:03:44midknight2k3you have a player or studio model?
01:03:51BoD[]it's not bob it's BoD !!
01:04:02BoD[]i have a recorder
01:04:22midknight2k3well
01:04:36midknight2k3i said bob because of weebl and bob
01:04:46midknight2k3weebl always says hi to bob by saying "lo bob"
01:04:47BoD[]weeblkokoi?
01:05:03midknight2k3www.weebl.jolt.co.uk
01:05:08midknight2k3the best flash cartoon ever
01:05:14BoD[]oh ..
01:05:32midknight2k3"lo bob. you have pie?"
01:06:51BoD[]right
01:06:51 Nick seb-sleep is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net)
01:07:05midknight2k3no
01:07:09midknight2k3thats what weebl says
01:07:22midknight2k3they're eggs with eyes that rock and are obsessed with pie.
01:10:32BoD[]strange!
01:11:24midknight2k3as weebl says, how rare!"
01:11:31BoD[]how rare
01:12:35midknight2k3i love donkey, donkey dont lie, i love donkey almost as much as pie
01:13:04BoD[]so
01:13:08BoD[]by the way
01:13:14BoD[]WHAT'SUP ?
01:13:24midknight2k3NOTHIN MUCH
01:13:32BoD[]WHAT?!!
01:13:40midknight2k3I SAID NOTHIN MUCH!!
01:13:50BoD[]WHAT DID YOU DO TODAY
01:14:03midknight2k3I... I ACTUALLY....
01:14:05midknight2k3i dont know
01:14:16BoD[]HOW MANY FEATURE REQUESTS DID YOU SUBMIT TODAY ?
01:14:25BoD[]:))
01:14:32midknight2k3none
01:14:42midknight2k3how many did i submit ever? 1
01:14:49BoD[]really?
01:14:55midknight2k3yeah
01:14:59midknight2k3that was a-b playback
01:15:06BoD[]a-b?
01:15:14midknight2k3oh boy
01:15:31midknight2k3you press a button once then again at another point in a song and it loops that section
01:16:04BoD[]oh right!
01:16:07midknight2k3like press F3 at 0:35 in a song and F3 again at 0:45 in a song and it plays the ten seconds between 35 and 45 over and over again
01:16:10BoD[]that's a good request actually
01:16:16midknight2k3yeah
01:16:19midknight2k3its all i really want
01:16:26midknight2k3whats BMP2RB do you know?
01:17:05BoD[]i guess it's a way to put a custom logo in rockbox
01:17:25midknight2k3i like that
01:17:27midknight2k3i want one
01:17:32midknight2k3i wanna HOT HOT pie
01:18:25BoD[]:))
01:18:30BoD[]but of course
01:18:36BoD[]i have no idea how to use it
01:18:46midknight2k3i want to
01:18:49midknight2k3how do i
01:18:55midknight2k3CRAP! I wish LinusN was here!
01:21:23BoD[]ftp://JRAF.org/incoming/matrix.mpe
01:22:15midknight2k3what that
01:23:10BoD[]look at it
01:23:22midknight2k3o hang on
01:23:25midknight2k3o=ok
01:23:29BoD[]ok
01:27:36midknight2k3i have to save it to my hard drive so hang on
01:27:45midknight2k3ie wants to stream it but 56k wont do that
01:28:42BoD[]yeah no don't stream it!
01:29:10midknight2k3i wont
01:29:13midknight2k3lol
01:30:54midknight2k325% complere
01:31:07midknight2k3matrix eh i wonder what it could be
01:31:14BoD[]:)))))
01:31:18midknight2k338%
01:31:24midknight2k343%
01:31:29midknight2k347%
01:31:37midknight2k351%
01:31:45midknight2k355%
01:31:55midknight2k359%
01:32:05midknight2k364%
01:32:13midknight2k368%
01:32:22midknight2k372%
01:32:28midknight2k3i guess 76 next
01:32:31midknight2k377%
01:32:40midknight2k381%
01:32:49midknight2k385%
01:32:52midknight2k3sigh
01:32:58midknight2k390%
01:33:06midknight2k394%
01:33:15midknight2k398%
01:33:18midknight2k3done
01:33:29midknight2k3time to view
01:34:18midknight2k3hahahaha
01:34:21BoD[]:)))))))))))
01:34:29BoD[]is it fun or what!!!!!!
01:34:31midknight2k3a commercial?
01:34:34BoD[]yes!
01:34:36midknight2k3that looooks funnn
01:34:39midknight2k3lol
01:34:42midknight2k3a commercial
01:35:00BoD[]for some ballet
01:35:15midknight2k3hahahaha
01:35:24midknight2k3he broke the table
01:35:28BoD[]yes:)))))
01:35:33BoD[]they are too fun
01:35:34midknight2k3you on 56k?
01:36:23BoD[]no 512
01:36:24BoD[]adsl
01:36:43midknight2k3huh
01:36:47midknight2k3lol you know
01:37:08midknight2k3that reminds me that one time rickandrak played beer bottle pool
01:37:13midknight2k3http://www.rickandrak.com/beerbottlepool.mpg
01:37:27midknight2k3sort of different but similar all the same
01:38:11BoD[]ok 5%
01:38:23midknight2k3lol
01:39:06midknight2k3cancel that
01:39:17BoD[]why
01:39:24midknight2k3its too big and off point
01:39:32BoD[]too late :)
01:39:33midknight2k3a better idea is when
01:39:34midknight2k3http://www.rickandrak.com/stupidlight.mpg
01:40:06midknight2k3shoooot
01:40:16midknight2k3i cant believe ricks birthday is tomorrow
01:40:28midknight2k3i have to do some video editing for at least a little present or soemthing
01:41:36BoD[]rick ?
01:41:48midknight2k3the main guy
01:41:54midknight2k3the director of the insanity
01:42:01midknight2k3check out rickandrak.com for a better idea
01:42:10midknight2k3which im sure you already have
01:44:19BoD[]:)
01:44:24BoD[]no i didn't
01:44:29midknight2k3oh well
01:44:35midknight2k3ill just ell you
01:44:41midknight2k3its all smashing stuff and being nuts
01:45:10midknight2k3mostly tv abuse and lightbulb shenanigans
01:46:22BoD[]:))))))))
01:46:42BoD[]the beer pool stuff is fun !!
01:47:03midknight2k3yeah wooooo
01:47:26midknight2k3if you like craziness i have the ultimate
01:47:26midknight2k3its 20mb but its the best quality crazyness
01:47:40midknight2k3and you MUST NOT STREAM IT
01:47:42midknight2k3you have to download it
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01:47:48midknight2k3http://www.rickandrak.com/johndeer.wmv
01:47:56midknight2k3best stuff ever
01:48:48BoD[]ok
01:48:53midknight2k3lol
01:49:02midknight2k3not for the easily nauseous
01:49:17midknight2k3it's sick and it's crazy
01:49:21midknight2k3but i guess its good
01:51:20BoD[]they remind me jackass
01:51:29midknight2k3loo
01:51:35midknight2k3that's the word i was looking for
01:51:59midknight2k3but the deer thing, if you find people playing with dead deers offensive you shouldnt watch it
01:52:46BoD[]:))
01:53:02midknight2k3i swear
01:53:15midknight2k3id dint think it was going to be that odd but i felt odd at the end
01:59:43BoD[]ok THAT was gore
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02:00:08midknight2k3you say you loved it?
02:00:36BoD[]:)) well
02:00:36BoD[]it was fun
02:00:41BoD[]but gord
02:00:42BoD[]gore
02:01:04BoD[]ANYWAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
02:01:08BoD[]i have to go to bed now
02:01:15midknight2k3crud
02:01:16midknight2k3bye
02:01:29midknight2k3bod
02:01:29BoD[]bye!
02:01:32midknight2k3see you
02:01:33midknight2k3later
02:01:34midknight2k3bye
02:01:35BoD[]:)
02:01:36midknight2k3seeya
02:01:38midknight2k3all that
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02:01:41midknight2k3yadda yaddda
02:01:55midknight2k3lemme know if you get back jet
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03:01:27*Stevie[FP] is away [gone] [KS-MsgLog Off]
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03:23:13REBELinBLUEhey all
03:27:31hardeephello
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04:52:36midknight2k3hehheheheh
04:52:40midknight2k3that movie is so funny
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07:33:27jimmydu3hey, i was wondering if anyone could tell me why i have no option to QUEUE files anymore....it just disappeared as an option
07:33:48jimmydu3i;m using the most current firmware (CVS)
07:35:47jimmydu3nevermind
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09:30:45earHurtsHello
09:31:05hardeephi
09:32:25earHurtshardeep, you're ouvne of the developers?
09:32:40hardeepyes
09:33:52earHurtswhat portions of the code is yours?
09:34:37dwihno:D
09:34:41dwihnoYay for Hardeep!
09:34:46dwihno\o/ Hardeep \O/
09:35:11Bagderhardeep is one of the few with insights in the inner mp3 workings
09:35:22dwihno\o/ Bagder \o/
09:35:31Bagdermorning dwihno
09:35:32dwihnoAny of you guys got any UPS shipping experience?
09:35:38dwihnoIt's such a great morning! :)
09:35:54dwihno(unless we start to talk about the sucky weather) ;)
09:36:08Bagderits a sunny morning here
09:36:13earHurtsand he has a fan club
09:36:30hardeepheh
09:36:32earHurts:)
09:36:46Bagderwww.hardeepfanclub.com !
09:36:49Bagder:-P
09:37:36earHurtsYou can find anything onna internet
09:38:18earHurtsPardon me if I typo or type slow, I'm on my handheld.
09:38:49hardeepluckily, you won't find that on the internet =)
09:39:01hardeepdwihno: i've had a lot of experience with UPS
09:40:04earHurtsbagder, I've re-done the id3 diffs
09:40:15BagderI noticed the patch
09:40:25dwihnohardeep: at what time of day do they usually deliver?
09:40:36webmindmorn
09:40:36BagderearHurts: I'll have a look at it later today
09:41:02earHurtsNo hurry.
09:42:29earHurtsbagder, you had mentioned 80GB hdds? What manufacturers?
09:42:34hardeepdwihno: there's no specific time... anywhere from 9-5. Usually they're fairly consistent day to day
09:43:08hardeepdwihno: but you need to be around the first time to figure out what time to expect them next
09:43:12dwihnohardeep: mkay... how about stuff getting stopped at the import scan?
09:43:16earHurtsdwihno, you waiting for a good toy?
09:43:21BagderearHurts: hitachi/IBM I believe
09:43:29dwihnoearHurts: Yeah! TOYS! :D
09:43:30Bagderhttp://www.bixnet.com/802innohadr.html
09:43:31dwihnoI love toys!
09:43:35dwihnoI'll never grow up! :)
09:44:06hardeepdwihno: they always need to attempt a delivery at least once before you can have it stopped
09:45:12dwihnoI'm starting to wonder if I'll get the stuff today already
09:45:15earHurtsHow useful is the Fujitsu low noise option?
09:45:21dwihno(it was shipped from the UK last night and is in the country now)
09:45:32hardeepdwihno: didn't you get a tracking number?
09:45:41hardeepdwihno: they're online tracking is very good
09:45:47hardeepat least in the US
09:46:00dwihnohardeep: Yeah, I'm tracking it... check http://dw.lahma.net/kartan.png for a "travel map" :-)
09:46:17earHurtsdwihno, can I ask what it is?
09:46:44dwihnoearHurts: just a gaming accessory (no, not a mod chip)
09:47:11earHurtscool.
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09:48:30earHurts5/GB. hmm.
09:48:50dwihnoSince UK are members of the EU, I should not have to pay any stupid extra fees?
09:50:15earHurtsversus 3/GB with low noise.
09:51:54Bagderdwihno: correct
09:52:15Bagderno extra VAT or customs fees etc
09:52:49Bagderthat's a reason I order from Amazon's UK site
09:54:04dwihnoyay
09:54:11dwihnoso stuff should not fastna in the tull, either?
09:54:33Bagdernope, no customs stuff within EU
09:55:02dwihnothe first good thing about being a member of the union ;)
09:59:55earHurtsIf only you'd kept Lasy Thatcher in power ;)
10:00
10:00:05earHurtser, LaDy
10:00:48earHurts$276 for the 80GB at googlegear
10:01:04dwihnoMy 60GB is still more than sufficient...
10:01:29dwihno36 gigs left ;-)
10:01:45earHurtsI jnoined emusic.com, and filled up 20 in six months
10:01:53dwihnoemusic.com ?
10:01:59dwihnocan you eat it?
10:02:25earHurtsYeah, $10/month, all you can download
10:03:00earHurtsbut now it's in groups of 35 tracks, which is annoying.
10:03:41earHurtsGood selection of classical +& folk
10:05:06dwihnoah
10:05:35earHurtsso I figure I'll fill 20GB in 6 months or less
10:06:16earHurtsSo with 60 8'll have to upgrade to 120 in a year.
10:07:18dwihnoDo you think there will be 120GB 2.5" disks in a year?
10:07:33earHurtsProbably
10:08:15earHurtsRockbox didn't support FMN when I bought my Archos, but I had faith in Linus
10:08:28earHurts;)
10:08:28Bagderhehe
10:08:35Bagderhe's a rock
10:08:45earHurtsheehee
10:08:46Bagderwith a box
10:08:53earHurtsugh
10:09:33earHurtsIn English, box can be vulgar slang for vagina
10:10:00Bagderoh
10:10:02Bagderhehe
10:10:07Bagderdidn't know that
10:10:33earHurtsI got a Zaurus 5600 on the assumption that the opie guys will make a nbetter replacement for the OS
10:11:03Bagderdid they?
10:11:20earHurtsNot yet. ;)
10:11:39earHurtsBut I have faith, see.
10:12:24earHurtsLook how much nbetter Rockbox is than the Archos.
10:13:32earHurtsIn 5 years I'll have a 500GB hdd in my archos.
10:15:04BagderI doubt that
10:15:17Bagder128GB is a magic border
10:15:28earHurtsWhy?
10:15:29Bagderfor the ATA
10:16:04earHurtssizeof offset?
10:16:08dwihnoThen you need ATA133
10:16:21Bagderyeps
10:16:32Bagderor at least something better than the one in the archos
10:16:34dwihnoAll you ATA133 are belong to me ME ME ME ! :)
10:16:46dwihnoWell, 128GB should be enough for everyone ;)
10:16:53earHurtsI rememnber when 2 floppies was leading edge.
10:17:12earHurtsSo I thought
10:17:24dwihnoI remember experiencing a HD upgrade from 20 to 35 megs... Damn, that was much! :)
10:17:43earHurtsWhen I bought nmy pc's 120 GB
10:18:11earHurtsNow I need another
10:18:44earHurtsHas anyone here used the fujitsu with low noise hdd
10:18:57earHurts?
10:18:59Bagdersomeone on the list mentioned one
10:19:36earHurtsGerman email address, iirc.
10:20:54earHurtsI don't really notice the noise from the standard archos. Do you?
10:21:32earHurtsdwihno what nbrand is your 60?
10:23:05earHurtsAny particular features I need to look for in an hdd for the Archos?
10:23:12Bagderlow power
10:25:03earHurtswhat power consumption should I look for?
10:25:49BagderI don't know really, sorry
10:27:09earHurtsI suppose whatever the hitachi the archos uses has will do
10:27:42Bagderyes, it would work as a comparison
10:28:10earHurtsheehee! "uses has will do" is actually grammatical English.
10:28:41earHurtsrecursive structures.
10:38:45Bagderthe weekly digest mailed away
10:41:18earHurtsDo you recall that settings patch that showed the value being set in the same screen as the settings themselves?
10:41:35Bagderyes
10:42:15earHurtsAny thought to making that official?
10:42:29Bagderthe only problem with it was in how the code worked
10:42:36Bagderwe all liked the look and the ui
10:42:59earHurtsiirc it patched a lot of files. What are the other issues?
10:43:13Bagderit had some excessive typecasts between language ids and char pointers
10:43:47Bagderusing a macro
10:44:12earHurtshow so?
10:44:49Bagderwell, the problem is not easily solved, but he wanted to all the places where we do "lang[id]" to pass in char pointers
10:45:00Bagderto allow a string OR a lang id to get passed in
10:45:04earHurtsstr( FOO ) is a char*
10:46:05earHurtsReally, those functions should ONLY take lang ids, to make sure they're i18n'ed
10:46:16Bagderthat's what I suggested too
10:46:38Bagderbut apparently some places don't use ids today
10:47:13earHurtsI had a patch that was in English, retrofitting it for lanng ids was a pain. I'd have prefferred a comnpiler error early on.
10:48:01BagderStevie[FP]: here?
10:48:27BagderI believe Stevie[FP] is the man
10:48:29earHurtsWhat 8 want is explicit support for lists within the lang files
10:48:40earHurtss/8/I
10:49:05BagderI wouldn't mind that
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10:49:52earHurtsIt would mean a lot few local srrays to map lang ids to strings
10:50:16earHurtswhich means smaller, less error prone code.
10:51:10earHurtsHow would we specify this in the lang files?
10:51:31 Quit awy[baer] ("There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary, and those who don't.")
10:52:17Bagderhm
10:52:48Bagderprobably something rather simple
10:53:04Bagderlike having a 'list: [name]-[num]" thing or something
10:53:10earHurtsI think some indicator that an entry was a list,
10:53:31Bagder'name' being the name of the list it belongs to, and num being the number in the list
10:53:47earHurtsHow about makinng the number implicit?
10:54:08Bagderand just have the order in the english one decide? well, yes that could work indeed
10:54:12earHurtsthat.s bnetter for the English, less easy for xlaters.
10:54:30Bagderthe translaters wouldn't need to worry about the order in most cases anyway
10:54:46earHurtsWHAT?
10:54:56earHurtsSurw they would
10:55:17Bagderno, the english one would set the order, the others could have them in any order they like
10:55:29Bagderit would use the english order in the output
10:55:54earHurtsBut how would they xlaters indicate which translation was which?
10:56:04Bagderlike today
10:56:19Bagderthe list: is an additional thing
10:56:29earHurtsoh, ok
10:56:45Bagderwe could even generate some extra defines for the lists, like size of the list etc
10:56:53earHurtsthat just reorders the enties
10:57:12earHurtsyeah, I do want a define for the count
10:57:19Bagderhey
10:57:30Bagderif we want to, we could support multiple list: per entry
10:57:38Bagderhm
10:57:41Bagderno
10:57:45Bagderthat would complicate things
10:58:06earHurtsthe lang thing is in perl?
10:58:10Bagderyes
10:58:39earHurtshnmm. Ok, I could painfully do this.
10:59:43earHurtswe'd have to ensure no entry tried to nbe added to
10:59:55earHurts> 1 list
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11:01:21earHurtsIt's great to be able to irc while soaking my feet in the bathtub
11:01:25Bagderand we still have a problem if anyone decides to remove an entry
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11:01:42Casperhello
11:01:47Bagderhi Casper
11:02:09CasperI'm have some truble
11:02:15earHurtsthen they get an empty string until they change the list
11:02:30earHurtshi casper
11:02:36BagderCasper: with rockbox?
11:02:39CasperHi hurts
11:03:10Casperdon't know exactly. I'm using rockbox CVS 030521
11:03:24earHurtsand?
11:03:33CasperI cant connect my JBFM to my win XP PC's
11:03:45Bagderhehe
11:03:52Bagderxp users are doomed
11:04:21CasperMaybe, but It used to work before...
11:04:35earHurtsno idea, I use w2k
11:04:42Bagdercheck the list archives this month, it is FULL with people having problems with XP: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-05/
11:05:30BagderCasper: if you plug it in before you start your archos, rockbox won't start and then you know it isn't a rockbox problem
11:05:36CasperOk then. I'll try it on a W2K machine as well. But I don't think it will work. Bec
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11:06:27Casperyea, But how am I going to remoove rockbox from my jukebox, before I send it back to my distributor
11:06:59Bagderwell, if you can't connect to USB anywhre, then the distributor won't be able to either ;-)
11:07:09earHurtsw2k requires a driver, tppaldr works nbest
11:07:19Bagderotherwise I don't know unless you rip out the disk and insert it somewhere else
11:07:30CasperBut He will be able to start the JB and see the Rockbox Frimware running
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11:08:13earHurtsinstalling rockbox does make w2k change the drivers "found new hardware"
11:08:26dwihnoit does?
11:08:34CasperOk, I go and try it on W2K
11:08:36earHurtsDid for me
11:09:21earHurtsNBoth drivers are on the archos cd
11:09:54earHurtscasper, try installing another driver manually
11:10:24BagderCasper: did you install any drivers?
11:10:37earHurtsmy comnputer+->drivers->install, etc.
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11:13:34CasperIt realy seems to be a XP problem. It worked well on a WinME machine. Didn't find a W2K machine right away
11:14:34CasperOk I'll try to install the archos driver manualy
11:15:03Bagdersome people report better success using the original xp driver
11:15:45CasperI used to do it without any driver installation till now. Just plugging the thing in. It used to work fine till today
11:15:59Bagderok
11:16:01earHurtsalso, make sure the computer isn't nbusy, esp disk access nbusy, when you plug in.
11:16:17earHurtstry it with the archos already on.
11:16:26CasperI did so
11:16:34CasperIt didn't help it
11:16:56CasperSo if the jukebox is allready on it is the Rockbox way to connect?
11:17:08earHurtsyeah
11:17:27earHurtsand it,s faster using rocknbox
11:18:12earHurtsdo you get the unconected icon?
11:18:42Casperno. Win XP says something like the Hardware is not recognized or so
11:18:52earHurtsyeah, that
11:19:11earHurtstry uninstalling the driver
11:19:32earHurtsthen turn on the archos, and plug in.
11:19:51Casperstrange. Now it worked. I tried it about 5 times before
11:20:22CasperI didn't change anything on the system
11:20:30earHurtsI had a bunch of pronblems when O first installed rockbox
11:20:47earHurtsNow I don't
11:21:31earHurtsWhatever you did this time, keep doing it.
11:21:40CasperI had never problems to connect it befor. with or without rockbox
11:21:52earHurtsgot me
11:21:55CasperWell yea. As long as it works :-)
11:22:15earHurtsNBagder, you run unix, right?
11:22:38Bagderyeps, mostly linux
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11:23:25Casperthanks all
11:23:49earHurtsI'd like to be able to unmount from the command line
11:23:58earHurtsnp, Casper
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11:46:45tracktheripperhi
11:46:54Bagder'lo
11:47:05tracktheripperhi badger :-)
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11:49:08Crappymornin
11:49:27tracktherippermorning crap
11:49:41Crappyso, I bought me an archos thingy...
11:49:51CrappyI thought I'd drop in here :)
11:49:58Bagderwelcome!
11:50:14tracktheripperwhat archos do u have?
11:51:10Crappyjukebox FM recorder
11:51:16tracktheripperah
11:51:16Crappy20 gigabytes
11:51:23tracktheripperi have the normal 10gb recorder
11:51:58tracktheripperBagder is it worth making a seperate partition on the Archos just for data if u use the Archos to store data as well?
11:51:59Crappypretty sweet the dollar dropped so low
11:52:09Crappysaved me some $$ :)
11:52:13Bagdertracktheripper: nah, I don't think so
11:52:14tracktheripper:)
11:52:28tracktheripperbecause i store data on it as well as music
11:52:38tracktheripperbut i have the data in a seperate folder away from the MP3s
11:53:51tracktheripperi was thiinking of doing an NTFS partititon so the data could be compressed
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11:55:48Quelsarukstrange mornings...
11:56:10Crappyare there any CF readers available for the JB recoder ?
11:56:10tracktheripperhi quelsaruk
11:56:17tracktheripperno
11:56:20tracktheripperonly for the Multimedia
11:56:32Crappyok
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11:56:56Crappyand rockbox doesn't work on the MM, right? :)
11:57:08tracktheripperit would be cool if u could connect a USB external CD writer to the Jukebox and make CDs on the fly :-)
11:57:18tracktheripperno it doesnt]
11:57:26Sparksno can do unfourtunatoly :S
11:58:05Crappyso the MM is very different from the normal JB ?
11:58:13tracktheripper:-(
11:58:14tracktheripperyea
11:58:24tracktheripperfirmware is loaded in a differnt way
11:58:27Sparksis it just me, or is it impossible to lock the keypad when you are recording (on the FM Recorder)
11:58:47Crappyfirmware is not on the disk you mean ?
11:59:14BagderCrappy: it isn't, and the MM is a totally different beast
11:59:37tracktheripperits still made by archos though...
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12:00:54Crappyanything online on that topic badg?
12:01:22Bagderthere's some guys wanting to hack the MM in a yahoo group
12:01:34Bagderthere's not even public specs for the CPU
12:02:03Bagderlemme check
12:02:04tracktherippercould the recorder run linux like the ipod?
12:02:19Bagderipod has a lot more cpu power and ram
12:02:27tracktheripperoh
12:02:44BagderCrappy: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JBMMFirmware
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12:04:15Bagderfood!
12:04:18webmindwhere?
12:05:17Sparksis it just me, or is it impossible to lock the keypad when you are recording (on the FM Recorder)
12:05:39Crappyno idea, just unpacked mine :)
12:05:51Sparkswell hurry up and test ip :P
12:06:01Sparksip -> it
12:06:43Crappyyeye :)
12:06:47Crappywill do boss
12:07:00Sparks:D
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13:22:28Bagderthat is a nice quit message ;-)
13:25:56webmindheh.. old one though :)
13:25:56Crappyoverrated :p
13:26:15Bagderhey I am old, it fits me ;-)
13:26:29webmindheh
13:26:46webmindBagder, i know it as old... does that mean i'm old too then ?
13:26:57Bagderyes
13:27:03Bagderyou can't hide anymore
13:27:16webminddamnit
13:28:02Crappystart looking for those grey hairs:p
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13:42:32ricII:(
13:43:05webmindej ricII
13:43:07webmind?
13:43:24ricIIbroke my lcd
13:43:29webminddamn...
13:43:30webmindhow ?
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13:44:21ricIIone of the battery popped out and somehow the the hit my head ...
13:44:27webminduhm k
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13:45:01webmindsoh how did that brake your lcd ?
13:45:16Sparksis ther there reason the keylock doesn't work when recording...or is it just me!
13:45:19ricIIwith the archos in my hand...
13:45:28webmindand u dropped it....
13:45:33ricIIand this happend after one day I foundout al my problems where related to a faulty battery
13:46:05webmindwhich sux...
13:46:21ricIIno hitting my head with the archos chipped the bottom side of the lcd.
13:46:54ricIIit sound verry stuppid and also feels that way.
13:46:55webmindhm k
13:47:02webmindsounds more odd..
13:47:09webmindbut uhm.. lcd doesnt do anything anymore ?
13:47:25ricIInot realy...
13:47:31webminddamn..
13:47:35webmindorder new one ?
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13:48:11ricIIthinking about it the new one
13:49:37ricIIalso conciddering the clie, but I don't like sony..
13:50:52ricIIit still functions but hard to control without feedback
13:52:25webmindclie mp3 player ?
13:52:45webmindbtw.. u wantink hd back ?
13:52:48ricIIheard off the archos AV340
13:53:55ricIIonly if u not usink it any more
13:53:55webmindwhat is it ?
13:54:02webmindricII, nope.. got a 40gb hd now
13:56:06ricIIa new model with a big screen
13:58:14webmindhm k
13:58:27webmindricII, u know the sharp zaurus btw ?
13:58:47ricIIno, sould I ?
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14:00:05webmindwell
14:00:11ricIImaybe someone @ rockbox got a working interface pcb with an otherwise b oken rec.
14:00:14webmindit's a pda that can play mp3's and divx ?
14:00:17webmindand runs linux
14:00:44ricII2.5" hd based?
14:04:09Crappypda's are usually more costly :)
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14:06:21Crappyhttp://www.sharpusa.com/products/ModelLanding/0,1058,1027,00.html
14:24:41webmindricII, uhm.. no..
14:24:58webmindi knew there was a catch
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14:28:20yoldihi ! :)
14:29:34yoldithx 4 this wonderfull firmeware
14:29:37yoldi:)
14:29:40yoldii love it
14:34:02webmindk :)
14:45:26ricIIachos av340 http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.04/play.html?pg=12
14:47:42webmindricII, but can it read CF cards, play high res movies ?
14:49:19ricIIhires don't think so..
14:52:23webmindbummer
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15:19:06Stevie[FP]mh
15:20:14Stevie[FP]omg
15:20:16Stevie[FP]im in the credits
15:29:18ricIIif only the clie had a hh & runed linux...
15:33:47Stevie[FP]heh
15:34:03Stevie[FP]it would appear that we're using a big-endian arch
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16:10:41Stevie[FP]wait, eww
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16:18:39Zebdaany info about the bookmark code ? is it planned to be introduced / merge in the cvs
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16:39:01elinenbemorning!
16:39:22quel|outelinenbe... morning? aren't you in germany?
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16:44:37HergAnyone here familiar with the mpeg thread code?
16:45:50HergI've spent a little time trying to track down the silent play bug
16:46:30HergLooks like the read ptr is passing the write ptr
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17:01:57Guestjust logged on to say thanks to whoeverworks on this firmware, any problems that i used to have with my jukbox have gone... great work
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17:04:50ricIIhi elinenbe
17:08:50elinenbericII: hi there!
17:08:54elinenbericII: long time no see.
17:09:18elinenbericII: how's the hauge?
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17:16:56dhdhello!!
17:17:13dhdhej the software rusn fine since 3 days
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17:25:29ricIIwell I did the 8mb mod, but was plaged by ramdom crashes..
17:25:51ricIIin the end it turned out to be a fautly battery cel
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17:29:56ricIInow I broke my lcd :(... which turned my rockbox more in a surprisebox (never now what it's gonna play)
17:39:12elinenbeblah! that stinks :(
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17:49:38ricIIjust made an offer on ebay for a 6gb rec..
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18:34:40mecrawhardeep: how long until you unleash your dynamic playlist on the patch tracker?
18:35:27hardeepmecraw: just tracking bugs now, all features are in
18:35:56mecrawadding directories, too?
18:36:16hardeepyeah, and playlists....
18:36:30hardeepproblem with those is that it's pretty slow if the number of files is large
18:36:30mecrawooh... EXCELLENT!
18:37:54hardeepricII: wow, long time =)
18:47:44Stevie[FP]anybody here ever heard of ghosthk?
18:48:40elinenbehardeep: need someone to test?
18:48:52elinenbehardeep: I would gladly give it a spin!
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18:49:12hardeepelinenbe: sure, let me put it up, one sec
18:49:36Ashtonhi
18:50:49Ashtonamazing stuff - you made me happier with my jukebox, one question is there a way to delete stuff with rockbox, ive read manual twice and cant find anything
18:50:58hardeepelinenbe: http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/dynamic.ajz
18:51:15hardeepAhston: do you mean deleting files?
18:51:19Ashtonyeah
18:51:29hardeepAshton: ON+PLAY on a file
18:51:57hardeepelinenbe: diff is at http:///hardeeps.freeshell.org/patches/dynamic_playlist_9.diff
18:52:51hardeepelinenbe: just as a warning, queuing playlists/directories only works at about 10 tracks/s... if you want to cancel hit OFF
18:53:00Ashtonhmm on and play doesnt seem to be working :(, i have the fm recorder i think its diff with this one
18:53:22hardeepAshton: i'm pretty sure all the models have the same key sequence for file operations
18:53:39hardeepAshton: are you in the file browser when you select it?
18:54:07Ashtonim pretty sure they dont :) thers a section ive read that gives diff controls for the fm recorder to any other, i cant find anything on deleting though
18:54:13Ashtonyeah i am
18:55:31Ashtongot it
18:55:47Ashtonit is on + play for both, just me doing it wrong :P
18:55:50Ashtonthanks
18:56:29Ashton5.1 of manual, shows you diff controls , for future reference
18:57:18hardeepAshton: yes, there are certainly some different controls between studio and recorder models... however you'll notice that the file menu isn't one of them
18:57:23Ashtonharddeep, do you know what things they plans to add soon?
18:58:22hardeepAshton: no idea... i think they wanted to clean up some of the outstanding patches on the sf tracker so I would expect features such as bookmarking to be in at some point before 2.1 is released
18:59:04Ashtoncool
18:59:23Ashtonso glad i found this, archos are crap
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19:00:32ricIIhardeep yes..
19:01:19ricIIbut now my lcd is broken..
19:01:41hardeepricII: ack, that sucks.
19:02:46Ashtonhardeep: one other thing, i have fm recorder, but i cant find fm area yet, and not found that in manual either, any ideas?
19:03:29hardeepAshton: that manual was written for rockbox 2.0 where the recorder and fm recorder worked pretty much the same
19:03:51ricIIhardeep: yes, certainly since I found out that all my craches where not related to the 8mb-mod but to 1 faulty battery only this week
19:03:52hardeepAshton: the fm stuff was just recently added and is in the daily builds
19:04:01Ashtonah ok
19:05:27hardeepricII: doh, and then the lcd breaks? tough luck
19:05:33ricIIbut I got an other (over priced) 6gb rec on ebay just now..
19:06:22hardeepricII: cool.... btw, I recently started working on the dynamic playlist stuff you had been doing before you left...
19:06:31ricIIgreat
19:06:33hardeepricII: let me know if you still want to work on it
19:08:15elinenbehardeep: sorry I was away for a little. this 10 tracks/sec thing? I can see it being slow for directories, but ehy playlists?
19:09:01hardeepelinenbe: directories/playlists work the same way for insertions.... i get the track name from the playlist and write it into the dynamic playlist.
19:09:42hardeepelinenbe: but it looks like that's not optimal so I'll probably change it
19:10:20ricIIhardeep, ofcourse I would like to helpout, input idea's
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19:12:57ricIII don't if its already known but there is a stackoverflow(?) in the timeset code..
19:14:46ricIIeasy reproduceble.. (if I had a working lcd)
19:14:48hardeepricII: i believe there is an open bug report on that
19:15:08hardeepyeah, 741391
19:17:43ricIIthat's it, year is something like 21386 & decreasing it (jumps to 2063)
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19:19:53ricIIwork around just press save (on) not touching the years, go in a 2nd time & adjust from there.. (will be 2063)
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19:36:39hardeepdoh, scared me
19:38:35elinenbehardeep: is dynamic.ajz based off the latest CVS?
19:38:54hardeepelinenbe: yes
19:39:02elinenbehardeep: great!
19:40:09elinenbehardeep: some documentation should come with this. explaing how it works with shuffle/repeat 1/repeat all/etc. and the entire functionality.
19:41:07hardeepelinenbe: agreed... i'm rather lazy when it comes to documentation
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22:02:09Stevie[FP]err
22:02:11Stevie[FP]this is screwy
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22:34:02Jet8810hmm
22:34:12Jet8810is there a way to lock the keys on your archos?
22:36:16hardeepJet8810: yes, see section 8 in the user manual
22:39:44Jet8810thanks'
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23:19:11Stevie[FP]anybody here?
23:19:46Stevie[FP]blah
23:20:06ricIIblarg
23:22:37Stevie[FP]what do you know about sh-1 assembler/
23:22:39Stevie[FP]?
23:22:47webmind?
23:23:01ricIInot enough..
23:23:08Stevie[FP]heh
23:23:12Stevie[FP]i don't get this negc instruction
23:23:32Stevie[FP]it says the T bit is set if a borrow occurred
23:23:38Stevie[FP]except the negc instruction is subtraction from 0
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23:23:46Stevie[FP]you're always going to need a borrow
23:24:11ricIIunless it was negative before ?
23:24:32sb69hi
23:26:13Stevie[FP]that's the only thing I could think of that would do it
23:26:37Stevie[FP]I don't have any way to verify it though
23:27:48Stevie[FP]hm
23:28:27ricIIjust try it out... see if the T flag is set if negc a negtive..
23:28:40ricIIs/is/isn't
23:30:25Stevie[FP]errm
23:30:31Stevie[FP]if they're telling me this right
23:30:36Stevie[FP]it ALWAYS sets T
23:31:10ricIIso negc,negc == setT
23:31:29Stevie[FP]not quite
23:31:43Stevie[FP]negc Rm, Rn => Rn = 0 - Rm - T
23:32:01ricIIyup..
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23:56:30Stevie[FP]god damnit
23:56:49Stevie[FP]doesn't anybody freaking document anything

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