| 00:00:56 | Yeft | ive never used the patch so i wouldnt know...sorry |
| 00:01:00 | TheSeige | and i really need/want this patch |
| 00:02:00 | TheSeige | any ideas |
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| 00:04:24 | tracktheripper | hi bod |
| 00:04:37 | TheSeige | ok im back |
| 00:05:09 | TheSeige | so can someone help me |
| 00:05:34 | BoD[] | with what |
| 00:05:58 | TheSeige | patching |
| 00:07:11 | TheSeige | i have the file cam.patch and i am tryin to patch it |
| 00:07:28 | BoD[] | sorry I can't help :) |
| 00:08:47 | TheSeige | has anyonr patched a file? |
| 00:09:41 | tracktheripper | i patched my trousers once |
| 00:09:46 | BoD[] | ;)) |
| 00:10:08 | tracktheripper | laughs |
| 00:10:12 | TheSeige | im serious, anyone? |
| 00:11:08 | BoD[] | sorry no |
| 00:11:24 | BoD[] | what is your problem exactly? |
| 00:12:56 | TheSeige | its telling me it cant patch the file. it cant find it |
| 00:13:06 | TheSeige | it finds the .patch file |
| 00:13:08 | BoD[] | oh |
| 00:13:18 | TheSeige | but not the file that needs to be patched |
| 00:13:33 | BoD[] | can i have a look at the .patch file somewhere |
| 00:14:14 | TheSeige | 1 sec |
| 00:14:29 | TheSeige | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=736339&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 00:15:42 | BoD[] | do you have a file /home/rockbox/code_base/rockbox-daily-20030511/apps/lang/english.lang apps/lang/english.lang ? |
| 00:16:16 | TheSeige | no, where would it be |
| 00:16:44 | BoD[] | well in /home/rockbox/code_base/rockbox-daily-20030511/apps/lang/english.lang apps/lang/ :) |
| 00:16:58 | TheSeige | in c: or the jukebox |
| 00:17:07 | TheSeige | but no in either case |
| 00:17:13 | BoD[] | ok wait |
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| 00:18:43 | BoD[] | ok in what dir are you when you try to patch ? |
| 00:19:27 | TheSeige | i went to the .rockbox dir, copied the cam.patch and the patch.exe and ran it in there |
| 00:19:44 | BoD[] | wait :) do you have the sources somewhere ? |
| 00:20:34 | TheSeige | i dont think so, what is the source? and for the cam.patch or the source for patch.exe |
| 00:21:03 | BoD[] | nono to apply a patch you need the rockbox sources |
| 00:21:18 | BoD[] | and a build environment |
| 00:21:25 | TheSeige | before it is compiled right |
| 00:21:31 | BoD[] | you apply the patch to the sources and build your own binary |
| 00:21:43 | TheSeige | so this would be better on a unix machine |
| 00:21:59 | BoD[] | of course :) but not necessarily |
| 00:22:10 | BoD[] | there is a build environment for windows |
| 00:22:26 | TheSeige | cgywin or somethin right |
| 00:23:39 | TheSeige | and the sources are in a tarball so i would need unix |
| 00:23:44 | BoD[] | yes but someone has made things easy for rockbox here : http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/win32-sdk.html |
| 00:25:24 | TheSeige | man this is a pain |
| 00:25:31 | BoD[] | :) agreed |
| 00:25:55 | BoD[] | but all you have to do is follow the instructions |
| 00:26:40 | TheSeige | and it would be pretty presumptious of me to ask someone to build it for me right? |
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| 00:27:17 | BoD[] | no I think there are very nice people here who would do it for you:) |
| 00:27:19 | BoD[] | except.. |
| 00:27:52 | BoD[] | right now they seems not to be there |
| 00:28:33 | TheSeige | dang, well on dialup im gunna be here awile for it to download |
| 00:29:40 | BoD[] | i'm sorry |
| 00:30:04 | TheSeige | np, so after i do all that, how would i compile |
| 00:30:17 | TheSeige | so i can transport it to my archos |
| 00:32:17 | BoD[] | you first apply the patch |
| 00:32:32 | BoD[] | and then you just type make |
| 00:33:37 | BoD[] | and then you have the .ajz file in the rockbox-binary dir |
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| 00:40:18 | TheSeige | cool |
| 01:00 |
| 01:26:31 | TheSeige | anyone here |
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| 01:30:58 | TheSeige | man stupid unic enviroment is pissing me ogg |
| 01:31:00 | TheSeige | off |
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| 01:35:39 | TheSeige | freakin A anyone want to encorporate a patch and build it for me? |
| 01:37:05 | TheSeige | anyone? |
| 01:38:35 | TheSeige | geez anyone even here or does everyone just kick it here |
| 01:41:13 | BoD[] | they all sleep |
| 01:41:40 | BoD[] | you should ask it in the mailing list, i'm sure somebody can do it for you if you ask nice :) |
| 01:46:36 | TheSeige | good idea |
| 01:47:01 | tracktheripper | seen the new look archos website? |
| 01:47:19 | tracktheripper | that new "Cinema" device looks cool |
| 01:47:22 | tracktheripper | with its large TFT |
| 01:49:10 | BoD[] | i don't like archos |
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| 01:55:37 | tracktheripper | and it has wma support |
| 02:00 |
| 02:01:49 | BoD[] | i don't like wma |
| 02:01:51 | BoD[] | :) |
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| 02:59:13 | Jet8810 | whoa... |
| 02:59:20 | Jet8810 | the Cinema is awesome BoD |
| 02:59:23 | Jet8810 | :) |
| 02:59:34 | adi|home | hmmm? |
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| 03:00:44 | TheSeige | freakin A anyone want to encorporate a patch and build it for me? |
| 03:00:46 | Jet8810 | www.archos.com |
| 03:00:48 | Jet8810 | wonder how much |
| 03:01:36 | TheSeige | for free |
| 03:03:00 | TheSeige | no takers? |
| 03:03:30 | Jet8810 | lol |
| 03:03:40 | Jet8810 | TheSeige, try it yourself |
| 03:03:45 | Jet8810 | itll be fun! |
| 03:04:13 | TheSeige | geez dude ive been tryin, i dont got linux installed on any computers at my place |
| 03:04:38 | Jet8810 | hmm |
| 03:04:39 | Jet8810 | cmd? |
| 03:04:50 | Jet8810 | I dont know anything about coding, but gotta be doable under Win |
| 03:05:09 | TheSeige | yeah i know, but its all in linux, and its a pain in the ass |
| 03:05:18 | Jet8810 | heh |
| 03:05:20 | Jet8810 | so |
| 03:05:28 | Jet8810 | a) you do something thats a pain in the ass because you want it |
| 03:05:28 | TheSeige | i cant seem to get it to work |
| 03:05:29 | Jet8810 | or |
| 03:05:32 | Jet8810 | b) somebody else does it for your |
| 03:05:34 | Jet8810 | :) |
| 03:05:46 | TheSeige | im hopin someone will do it for me |
| 03:05:56 | TheSeige | ive seriously been tryin for hours |
| 03:06:09 | TheSeige | ask BoD[] he knows, hes been helpin me |
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| 03:12:21 | Jet8810 | heh |
| 03:12:22 | Jet8810 | I dont know |
| 03:12:24 | Jet8810 | if I could, I would |
| 03:12:47 | elinenbe | TheSeige: what's up? |
| 03:12:55 | elinenbe | TheSeige: what do you need help with? |
| 03:14:47 | elinenbe | hardeep: you here? |
| 03:26:22 | hardeep | elinenbe: here |
| 03:26:28 | TheSeige | i need a patch encorporated and then compiled |
| 03:27:32 | BoD[] | i have to go to bed now |
| 03:27:37 | BoD[] | see you all |
| 03:27:44 | TheSeige | late |
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| 03:29:08 | TheSeige | elinenbe: you there |
| 03:30:31 | hardeep | TheSeige: you don't need linux to apply a patch... just use cygwin on a windows machine |
| 03:30:42 | TheSeige | yeah i got that |
| 03:30:58 | TheSeige | but i cant get the rb-checkout to work |
| 03:31:46 | hardeep | i'm not familiar with rb-checkout... if you want to get the cvs source follow the directions at: http://rockbox.haxx.se/cvs.html |
| 03:32:14 | hardeep | specifically: "Anonymous read-only checkout" section |
| 03:32:23 | TheSeige | im not even sure how to do it |
| 03:32:44 | hardeep | just follow the directions... it's only one command |
| 03:33:27 | TheSeige | k im gunna try again |
| 03:33:51 | hardeep | what patch are you trying to apply anyways? |
| 03:33:59 | TheSeige | cam.patch |
| 03:34:15 | hardeep | i have no idea what that is... what's the patch id or description? |
| 03:34:40 | TheSeige | it turns on the juke box when external power is connected |
| 03:34:45 | TheSeige | and same with turning off |
| 03:34:59 | TheSeige | for my car |
| 03:35:14 | hardeep | what patch is it on the sourceforge patch tracker? |
| 03:36:26 | TheSeige | 1 sec let me find it |
| 03:37:33 | TheSeige | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=736339&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 03:39:08 | TheSeige | it would be perfect for my car |
| 03:39:28 | hardeep | that patch makes changes to code that has been changed since it was submitted |
| 03:39:43 | TheSeige | is that bad? |
| 03:39:52 | hardeep | it will probably not apply cleanly after you've downloaded the source |
| 03:40:12 | TheSeige | does it only affect the archos.mod file |
| 03:40:15 | TheSeige | ? |
| 03:40:17 | hardeep | and, unless you're familiar with C, you'll probably have a tough time getting it to patch properly |
| 03:40:35 | TheSeige | damnit, want to help a brother out |
| 03:40:50 | hardeep | i'd suggest making a request to the patch creator to see if he can supply you with a binary |
| 03:41:18 | TheSeige | i dont have a sourceforge account |
| 03:41:28 | hardeep | they're free to create |
| 03:41:43 | hardeep | or you can post a message on the rockbox mailing list |
| 03:42:01 | TheSeige | so once i get a binary, assuming i get it, what then? |
| 03:42:48 | hardeep | then you just copy it to your device... same as any other rockbox binary |
| 03:43:01 | TheSeige | o coo |
| 03:45:00 | TheSeige | k i registered on the mailin list awile ago, but i havent checked to see if im setup |
| 03:47:47 | elinenbe | okay I am back! |
| 03:47:54 | elinenbe | sorry about that... I see hardeep helped you. |
| 03:48:04 | TheSeige | yeah he did |
| 03:48:12 | elinenbe | hardeep: the patch works awesomely |
| 03:48:12 | TheSeige | thanx by the way |
| 03:48:38 | elinenbe | hardeep: I have some suggestions for the patch you made. |
| 03:48:59 | TheSeige | what patch is it? |
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| 03:49:34 | earHurts | hello. |
| 03:49:53 | TheSeige | yo |
| 03:49:59 | elinenbe | hardeep: did you change anything else in the source (maybe soemthing to do with keylock) in your dynamic.ajz that was on your site? |
| 03:50:20 | elinenbe | TheSeige: the queue/insert playlist patch |
| 03:50:32 | TheSeige | sweet |
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| 04:00:52 | earHurts | anyone know nhow nmuch frame overnhead is in an mp3/ |
| 04:01:14 | Stevie-O | hm |
| 04:01:18 | Stevie-O | for mpeg layer 1 |
| 04:01:22 | Stevie-O | it's kinda high |
| 04:01:34 | Stevie-O | but for mpeg layer 3 |
| 04:01:41 | Stevie-O | what kind of kbps are we talking about? |
| 04:02:04 | earHurts | say vbr. |
| 04:02:12 | Stevie-O | say a kbps |
| 04:02:21 | earHurts | 160 |
| 04:02:23 | Stevie-O | even a vbr mp3 has an average kbps |
| 04:02:25 | Stevie-O | ok |
| 04:02:37 | Stevie-O | hold on |
| 04:02:58 | hardeep | elinenbe: no, the only changes I made are in the patch... |
| 04:03:10 | hardeep | elinenbe: why? are you running it some problems? |
| 04:05:25 | Stevie-O | frame size: 522 header: 4 overhead: 0.766284% |
| 04:05:46 | Stevie-O | br: 160 sr: 44.1 frame size: 522 header: 4 overhead: 0.766284% |
| 04:06:06 | earHurts | bytes? |
| 04:06:36 | Stevie-O | yeah |
| 04:06:43 | Stevie-O | type !frovr <bitrate> <samplerate> |
| 04:06:51 | Stevie-O | make sure you use KHz (i.e. 44.1 not 44100) |
| 04:07:16 | TheSeige | i just want that patch to work |
| 04:07:34 | earHurts | thanks |
| 04:07:52 | Stevie-O | in fakt |
| 04:08:59 | Stevie-O | !frovr 160 44.1 |
| 04:09:22 | Stevie-O | oh |
| 04:09:41 | Stevie-O | !frovr 160 44.1 |
| 04:09:41 | Stevie[FP] | br: 160 sr: 44.1 frame size: 522 header: 4 overhead: 0.766284% |
| 04:09:49 | Stevie-O | !frovr 128 44.1 |
| 04:09:50 | Stevie[FP] | br: 128 sr: 44.1 frame size: 417 header: 4 overhead: 0.959233% |
| 04:09:55 | Stevie-O | !frovr 192 44.1 |
| 04:09:56 | Stevie[FP] | br: 192 sr: 44.1 frame size: 626 header: 4 overhead: 0.638978% |
| 04:10:32 | Stevie-O | ok |
| 04:11:01 | Stevie-O | I wonder if mpeg compresses both channels separately on a stereo audio stream |
| 04:12:14 | elinenbe | hardeep: not changes in the patch, but changes to your compiled ajz on your site (well, that was there) |
| 04:12:43 | hardeep | elinenbe: yeah, that's what i meant... the patch was based on the same source tree that i compiled dynamic.ajz with |
| 04:13:15 | hardeep | what problems are you encountering? |
| 04:14:03 | earHurts | stevie< you can tell lame to do sperate or njoint stereo. injnoint stereo, one channel is ennncoded as a delta of tnhe other. |
| 04:14:32 | Stevie-O | oh, ok |
| 04:14:41 | Stevie-O | I wonder if many MP3s are encoded that way |
| 04:15:18 | earHurts | I encode the ones I rip innjoint. it often means a smaller mp3 |
| 04:15:34 | Stevie-O | or a higher quality for a given bitrate |
| 04:15:46 | elinenbe | hardeep: I have no problems, it just seem that when I use your dynamic.ajz when I keylock and press a button it seems that the scroll does not restart, but when I apply the patch to the current CVS and I put on keylock and press a button, then scroll restarts.. |
| 04:16:12 | earHurts | yeah. |
| 04:16:43 | elinenbe | hardeep: I am having no problems with the patch as it is, but I have a suggestion. |
| 04:17:21 | hardeep | elinenbe: shoot |
| 04:18:25 | elinenbe | it would be great if there was a new trype of playmode. |
| 04:18:47 | elinenbe | you know how there is repeat-1, repeat-all, repeat off |
| 04:18:59 | Stevie-O | repeat half? |
| 04:19:30 | elinenbe | well with the new recursive it would be great if there was a play-recursive. |
| 04:19:46 | Stevie-O | recursive? |
| 04:20:00 | elinenbe | like if you pressed right on a directory it would go into it, but if you pressed play on a directory it would play the directory and all songs in all folders in it |
| 04:20:11 | Stevie-O | oh |
| 04:20:12 | Stevie-O | interesting |
| 04:21:11 | hardeep | elinenbe: yeah, i had the same though.... i was working on allowing the user to insert before play begins... if used on a directory with recursive mode on, it would do that |
| 04:21:18 | hardeep | s/though/thought |
| 04:21:48 | earHurts | recursive direcory play is something I've wanted since I got the archos. |
| 04:22:05 | earHurts | I wa ssurprised when rocknbox didn't do it. |
| 04:22:16 | Stevie-O | lol |
| 04:22:23 | Stevie-O | every time you say 'rockbox' your kbd does the n thing |
| 04:22:31 | elinenbe | you see there are currently different types of playmodes: repeat-1, repeat-all, repeat-off (either with shuffle on or off) and there could now be different play-realms (recursive on/off) |
| 04:22:59 | hardeep | elinenbe: nah, i wouldn't want this as part of playmode |
| 04:23:20 | * | Stevie-O writes a 'repeat 1/4' and 'repeat 3/4' playmode |
| 04:23:26 | earHurts | the b key is next to the n key. the n key will produce an n if even bnrushed. |
| 04:23:34 | Stevie-O | oh |
| 04:23:40 | Stevie-O | lol |
| 04:24:00 | Stevie-O | my dentist tells me to bnrush my teeth at least twice a day! |
| 04:24:12 | earHurts | and it's a thumnb board - the keys are abnout .5 cm across |
| 04:24:18 | hardeep | there are a couple of problems with recursive play mode: 1. it's a lot slower then normal dirplay (potentially a low more depending on number of tracks) 2: the tracks are not inserted in any sorted order |
| 04:24:38 | Stevie-O | any reason why they're not sorted? |
| 04:24:48 | Stevie-O | does rockbox not have a quicksort implementation? |
| 04:25:01 | elinenbe | hardeep: when you say not inserted in any sorted order, what do you mean? |
| 04:25:06 | hardeep | it does, i just don't use it.... don't want to waste the buffer space |
| 04:25:13 | earHurts | sort in alpha order |
| 04:25:21 | Stevie-O | buffer space? |
| 04:25:25 | hardeep | elinenbe: the order they're read from disk is the order they're inserted in the playlist |
| 04:25:52 | Stevie-O | couldn't we use the 'directory list' buffer? |
| 04:26:37 | elinenbe | hardeep: so, folders are not necessarily inserted before files, or vice-versa? |
| 04:26:49 | hardeep | elinenbe: yeah |
| 04:26:56 | elinenbe | hardeep: are songs inserted in alphabetical order? |
| 04:27:01 | hardeep | Stevie-O: for recursive, the directory list buffer may be insufficient |
| 04:27:16 | hardeep | elinenbe: not necessarily, it depends on how they're read off disk |
| 04:27:23 | Stevie-O | it doesn't necessarily have to be the entire list to be sorted |
| 04:27:25 | hardeep | elinenbe: which is probably based on the order they were written to disk |
| 04:27:34 | Stevie-O | although |
| 04:27:34 | hardeep | although that may not be true either |
| 04:27:41 | * | Stevie-O ponders a way to do that |
| 04:28:01 | Stevie-O | actually |
| 04:28:02 | hardeep | btw, this is the same as how we "Create Playlist" |
| 04:28:03 | elinenbe | hardeep: so, if I insert an album (folder) where the songs are names "01 - song", "02 - song", etc. the album may not be inserted in order? |
| 04:28:14 | Stevie-O | hardeep: I kinda figured as much |
| 04:28:42 | Stevie-O | too bad we can't just, say, pause any mp3 that's in progress |
| 04:28:50 | hardeep | elinenbe: potentially not... although, I must say that I have yet to see them not inserted in alphabetical order for me |
| 04:29:12 | Stevie-O | and get a nice 1.7mb buffer |
| 04:29:46 | elinenbe | hardeep: can you force alphabetical order? like the current directory play? |
| 04:30:56 | hardeep | elinenbe: potentially.... for non-recursive we should have enough space... but for recursive it won't work |
| 04:31:19 | elinenbe | why won't it work? It would be great if it would work :) |
| 04:31:36 | hardeep | as i said earlier, not enough space |
| 04:32:06 | hardeep | but, so far it's worked great for me... so i'm not as concerned about it |
| 04:32:22 | elinenbe | in the buffer? I still don't understand... with the previous playlist I could load a list of 5000+ songs. |
| 04:32:29 | hardeep | once a playlist viewer is in, any tracks not inserted correctly can be manually fixed |
| 04:32:53 | Stevie-O | the playlist code only holds file offsets |
| 04:32:54 | hardeep | or a user can create a playlist to insert, in the order they want |
| 04:34:01 | elinenbe | hardeep: I just have a folder called "Pink Floyd" |
| 04:34:12 | TheSeige | has anyone modded the archos for more ram |
| 04:34:21 | elinenbe | and in that folder I have "Album 1" with subfolders "CD 1" and "CD 2" |
| 04:35:06 | elinenbe | and also, "Album 2", "Album 3", "Album 4" with subfolder "CD 1" and "CD 2" |
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| 04:35:22 | elinenbe | how would it end up playing? if I inserted "Pink Floyd" |
| 04:36:32 | hardeep | elinenbe: since I don't do any sorting... it would depend on the order they're read from disk.... so album 2 could be before album 1 and CD2 of album 3 could be before cd1 of album 3 |
| 04:37:10 | hardeep | give it a try and see how it comes out |
| 04:40:04 | earHurts | elinnnennbe: off topic question, why put each pink floyd the wall cd in its own nsunbdirectory? |
| 04:40:33 | elinenbe | earHurts: I like when the music is played in the correct album order. |
| 04:40:40 | hardeep | i do the same thing... |
| 04:41:17 | earHurts | nso do I, but I put both the wall cds in one directory |
| 04:41:20 | elinenbe | so, I have my stuff named like "Pink Floyd"/"The Wall"/"CD 1"/"01 - Songname" |
| 04:41:39 | elinenbe | that way I can my filenames are short and I can see them quicklin in the borwser. |
| 04:41:47 | elinenbe | s/quicklin/quickly |
| 04:41:56 | elinenbe | but everything will play in the proper order. |
| 04:42:27 | earHurts | put all of the wall n- it's logically one recording, on 2 cds +-n in a single directory |
| 04:42:29 | elinenbe | hardeep: I just tried it and everything is in odd order :( "02 - song" then "06 - song" etc. |
| 04:43:17 | earHurts | alpha sorting is essenntial |
| 04:44:24 | hardeep | elinenbe: let me think about it, there might be a way to do although it would be expensive... no promises though |
| 04:44:32 | elinenbe | hardeep: sounds wonderful. |
| 04:44:46 | elinenbe | hardeep: just keep in touch |
| 04:45:21 | elinenbe | I think if it is expensive it will still be worth it for many users. I am willing to pay up to $53 |
| 04:45:33 | earHurts | lol |
| 04:47:02 | Stevie-O | $53? |
| 04:47:25 | hardeep | blah, i'm expecting a few thousand |
| 04:47:28 | Stevie-O | ... nice round price |
| 04:48:17 | Stevie-O | 1000 for what? |
| 04:48:25 | elinenbe | hardeep: I will add some new levels to sokoban :) |
| 04:48:47 | hardeep | i'm still on like level 13... a few more levels ain't gonna help =) |
| 04:48:54 | elinenbe | haha |
| 04:49:08 | Stevie-O | hahaha |
| 04:49:17 | Stevie-O | I *just* solved 9 the other day |
| 04:49:25 | elinenbe | my programming ability is limited to games... that and thread libraries. |
| 04:54:16 | earHurts | anybody use tit1 tags? |
| 04:56:27 | Stevie-O | tit tags? |
| 04:56:30 | Stevie-O | sounds interesting |
| 04:56:43 | Stevie-O | ;) |
| 04:56:46 | earHurts | tit(le)q |
| 04:57:05 | earHurts | id3 title is tit2 |
| 04:57:07 | Stevie-O | titular |
| 04:57:22 | earHurts | tit1 is conntent group |
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| 05:42:41 | OneCluedCoder | dude |
| 05:42:47 | OneCluedCoder | wtf |
| 05:42:52 | OneCluedCoder | check_pings() |
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| 06:01:56 | hardeep | elinenbe: still around? |
| 06:02:57 | hardeep | elinenbe: if you are, try out http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/dynamic/dynamic-sort.ajz and let me know how it goes |
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| 08:04:37 | | Nick hardeep|away is now known as hardeep (1098@208.247.65.237) |
| 08:05:53 | | Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) |
| 08:32:28 | dwihno | hardeep: Does the simulator build with mingw? |
| 08:35:45 | hardeep | dwihno: it builds... i don't believe it works though |
| 08:37:48 | dwihno | mkay |
| 08:38:14 | dwihno | This monday started so goddamn well... Then I came to work and the world fell apart :/ |
| 08:38:41 | hardeep | well, put it back together then =) |
| 08:39:16 | dwihno | I need glue! :) |
| 08:39:20 | dwihno | And a miracle. |
| 08:40:06 | hardeep | miracles are easy... a decent glue might be hard to come by though |
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| 08:44:48 | Bagder | morning |
| 08:46:12 | dwihno | Yay! |
| 08:46:13 | dwihno | Hej! |
| 08:46:19 | dwihno | Jävla måndag, och så vidare ;) |
| 08:46:51 | dwihno | Bagder: Did you get a Philips HDD100 mail? |
| 08:46:58 | Bagder | I dunno |
| 08:47:02 | dwihno | Damn, I got excited when I read the first mail |
| 08:47:07 | Bagder | just got back from 4 days away |
| 08:47:12 | dwihno | It said "congratulations, beta tester" |
| 08:47:21 | Bagder | but you didn't get any unit? |
| 08:47:38 | dwihno | Nah, then I got another mail telling me the subject was invalid. |
| 08:49:22 | dwihno | Tell me if you were lucky (in the true sense) |
| 08:50:59 | Bagder | I have maaaaaany mails to go through first ;) |
| 08:57:40 | dwihno | :-) |
| 08:59:05 | dwihno | I just love mondays |
| 08:59:07 | dwihno | HATE HATE HATE! |
| 08:59:14 | dwihno | It's a love/hate relationship |
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| 09:00:45 | dwihno | I love to hate mondays |
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| 10:54:56 | Quelsaruk | hi |
| 10:55:02 | Bagder | morning Q |
| 10:55:16 | Quelsaruk | that sounded like james bond :) |
| 10:55:17 | Bagder | any good hidden weapons and funny gadgets for mr Bond today? |
| 10:56:03 | Quelsaruk | Quake for rockbox? |
| 10:56:04 | Quelsaruk | :) |
| 10:57:33 | Bagder | :) |
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| 11:03:06 | * | Bagder experienced summer in Germany during the weekend |
| 11:03:18 | Bagder | back in Sweden it was cooooold |
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| 11:05:32 | Quelsaruk | Bagder: i'm experiencins summer since march |
| 11:05:43 | Bagder | you lucky bastard! |
| 11:05:44 | Quelsaruk | *experiencing |
| 11:05:51 | Quelsaruk | lucky? |
| 11:05:55 | Bagder | :-) |
| 11:06:07 | Quelsaruk | 40ºC is _too_ hot even for me |
| 11:06:29 | Bagder | yeah |
| 11:06:33 | Bagder | but 19 is too cold |
| 11:06:37 | Quelsaruk | yes |
| 11:06:38 | Quelsaruk | :) |
| 11:06:47 | Bagder | Frankfurt had 28-30 |
| 11:07:08 | Bagder | or rather Heidelberg, where I was |
| 11:14:12 | | Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 11:14:21 | Bagder | hi Z |
| 11:14:23 | Zagor | hey |
| 11:14:47 | Quelsaruk | Hail Z! |
| 11:14:48 | Quelsaruk | :P |
| 11:15:04 | Bagder | Zagor: I'm in the next struggle in the Debian world now ;-) |
| 11:15:12 | Zagor | hehe. what? |
| 11:15:41 | Bagder | the perl package 'WWW::Curl' becomes the debian package 'libwww-curl-perl' |
| 11:15:57 | Bagder | implying a libwww-dependency that doesn't exist |
| 11:16:08 | Zagor | wacko |
| 11:16:57 | Zagor | however i think that's the debian perl-lib naming convention: lib<cpan libname>-perl |
| 11:17:10 | Bagder | it is |
| 11:17:16 | Bagder | and I fight it! ;-) |
| 11:17:22 | Zagor | hehe |
| 11:17:32 | Bagder | a head-against-wall fight |
| 11:19:04 | | Nick Quelsaruk is now known as quel|out (swordmaste@faerun.ugr.es) |
| 11:21:50 | quel|out | Bagder: Czech translation includes a font that has czech chars... what do you do with fonts? |
| 11:22:16 | Bagder | we should make a fonts dir |
| 11:22:48 | quel|out | :) |
| 11:23:25 | Bagder | Zagor can put it on the right place on the web site |
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| 12:10:54 | tracktheripper | Morning |
| 12:10:59 | Bagder | hey ho |
| 12:11:08 | tracktheripper | hello bag |
| 12:11:14 | tracktheripper | der |
| 12:12:02 | tracktheripper | whats up? |
| 12:14:32 | tracktheripper | did anyone get my bug report about "Update VBR FIle" |
| 12:15:10 | PsycoXul | that reminds me |
| 12:15:24 | tracktheripper | what it reminsds u of? |
| 12:15:43 | PsycoXul | i've got a rockbox recording |
| 12:16:05 | tracktheripper | but I tried Update VBR File and it just messed the file up |
| 12:16:07 | PsycoXul | and rockbox plays it ok except it's got a little stray spot of silence towards the end |
| 12:16:10 | tracktheripper | see bug report for details |
| 12:16:32 | PsycoXul | but in mpg123 it gets cut off before the end |
| 12:16:43 | PsycoXul | and mp3check can't handle or fix it either |
| 12:18:17 | tracktheripper | well perhaps that option should be renamed "Mess Up VBR File" |
| 12:18:33 | PsycoXul | well i dunno about your bug |
| 12:18:45 | PsycoXul | but my file was screwed up before i tried the update vbr thing on it |
| 12:18:56 | PsycoXul | and doing an update vbr on it didn't make any difference |
| 12:18:57 | tracktheripper | well every time the HD rebuffers theres a gap of silence |
| 12:19:10 | tracktheripper | playing the file in Soundforge worked fine |
| 12:19:55 | Zagor | tracktheripper: sounds like vbrfix simply failed. |
| 12:20:08 | tracktheripper | but it was a VBR file |
| 12:20:10 | Zagor | audio dropout at buffer fill means the vbr info is bad |
| 12:20:16 | tracktheripper | which i downloaded off the webby |
| 12:21:10 | Zagor | yes, sounds like a bug. i haven't read your bug report though. |
| 12:21:32 | webmind | hi |
| 12:21:47 | tracktheripper | well i submitted it last night |
| 12:21:57 | tracktheripper | unfortunatly i no longer have the bad file |
| 12:22:01 | Zagor | i have a few hundred mails to go through... :-) |
| 12:22:07 | tracktheripper | cool |
| 12:22:13 | tracktheripper | im trying to behave Zagor :-) |
| 12:22:23 | Bagder | Totally 154 bugs (14 marked as fixed, 89 open and 51 bad) |
| 12:23:22 | tracktheripper | its amazing how the "Works For Me" bugs work for Bjorn and co except everyyone else! |
| 12:23:38 | Bagder | everyone? |
| 12:23:43 | Bagder | I doubt everyone tests those things |
| 12:23:55 | PsycoXul | http://63.205.41.163:8042/R030523-222545.mp3 <−− there's my problem file |
| 12:24:21 | Zagor | "works for me" simply means the bug report does not include enough information to repeat the problem. not that I/we claim the bug doesn't exist. |
| 12:24:22 | Bagder | food time |
| 12:24:28 | tracktheripper | yea Bagder I really want that "Reshuffle when playlist repeats" fixed |
| 12:24:34 | tracktheripper | oh right Zaggor |
| 12:24:37 | tracktheripper | thanks |
| 12:25:08 | Zagor | tracktheripper: that's not a bug, is it? |
| 12:25:17 | tracktheripper | no its a feature request |
| 12:25:22 | tracktheripper | I really love to have that fixed |
| 12:25:27 | tracktheripper | please fix it for me, please :-) |
| 12:25:35 | PsycoXul | it's not broken |
| 12:25:38 | PsycoXul | there's nothing to fix |
| 12:25:45 | PsycoXul | what you want is to have it implimented |
| 12:26:12 | tracktheripper | well please implement it for me Bjorn and co :-) |
| 12:26:36 | Zagor | we probably will |
| 12:27:03 | tracktheripper | if u implement it for me ill promise to behave from now on :) |
| 12:27:57 | Zagor | haha. i don't believe you :-) |
| 12:28:07 | tracktheripper | gods witness Zaggor :-) |
| 12:28:10 | tracktheripper | ill behave :-) |
| 12:28:39 | tracktheripper | because I use my Archos as an all day music server, i would really benefit from that feature |
| 12:30:09 | tracktheripper | ill pay you Zagor to inplement it :-) |
| 12:30:26 | Zagor | you can't afford me ;) |
| 12:30:43 | tracktheripper | please can u inplement it though? |
| 12:30:53 | tracktheripper | im sure there are loads of other people that would love this feature request |
| 12:30:58 | Zagor | i already said we probably will |
| 12:31:03 | earHurts | this perverts the spirit of open source |
| 12:31:13 | tracktheripper | now where is my gun?! |
| 12:32:30 | earHurts | this is about re-shuffling? |
| 12:32:39 | tracktheripper | yea |
| 12:32:53 | tracktheripper | when the playlist repeats, reshuffle it so it repeats in a different song order |
| 12:33:27 | earHurts | doesn't sound too hard. |
| 12:33:37 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 12:33:56 | tracktheripper | you could have a splashscreen saying [Reshuffling] before it repeats |
| 12:34:29 | earHurts | ick |
| 12:34:35 | Zagor | no need |
| 12:35:22 | tracktheripper | ohhh |
| 12:35:29 | earHurts | zagor, if I have mutiple patch filed, is there a conventional nwat to combine nthemn into a single file. |
| 12:35:55 | Zagor | earHurts: use the -r diff option to diff several files at once |
| 12:36:48 | earHurts | within different dieectories too? |
| 12:38:34 | PsycoXul | diff -ur rockbox rockbox.newstuff >newstuff.diff |
| 12:38:51 | Zagor | yes |
| 12:39:07 | Zagor | think of linux patches. they contain changes to hundreds of files |
| 12:40:05 | PsycoXul | when i make patches, i make a pair of trees just for creating the patch.. one of the pristine source tree, and one with just the changes i want in the patch |
| 12:42:53 | PsycoXul | as opposed to using trees where i've built anything or made any other changes heh |
| 12:45:10 | PsycoXul | i guess you'd want to add -N too if you've created new files, or something... |
| 12:47:44 | earHurts | thanks |
| 12:50:46 | earHurts | speaking of patches, I haven't gotten any feednback on 706111 |
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| 12:51:52 | pyromance | Anyone awake? |
| 12:52:17 | earHurts | me |
| 12:52:40 | pyromance | Heh |
| 12:53:25 | pyromance | Know how to fix an I09:CpuAdrErr at 00000000 on boot? |
| 12:53:47 | Zagor | ouch |
| 12:53:56 | Zagor | which version? |
| 12:54:03 | pyromance | Oh hey Bjorn |
| 12:54:04 | pyromance | 2.0 |
| 12:54:13 | pyromance | It went down like this: |
| 12:54:22 | pyromance | I tried to play The Sisters of Mercy - 1959 |
| 12:54:54 | pyromance | It locked with an error ... well I had auto-resume on so it kept trying to play that song .. same error and lock each time |
| 12:55:05 | pyromance | So I removed the offending file ... still lock on boot. |
| 12:55:17 | pyromance | So I removed and reinstalled Rockbox. Same error on boot! |
| 12:55:26 | pyromance | But ... with the factory ROM, it boots fine |
| 12:55:29 | earHurts | somebody is derefferencinng a null poinnter? |
| 12:55:42 | Zagor | earHurts: sounds like it |
| 12:55:58 | Zagor | pyromance: try installing the latest daily build. it will reset your settings, and thus not try to resume. |
| 12:57:07 | pyromance | Funny thing is I never had a problem with Rockbox until today... I've been running Rockbox for months and months (thanks for the great OS, by the way) |
| 12:57:11 | pyromance | OK will do ... One sec |
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| 13:02:06 | pyromance | Damn .. never compiled rockbox on my own before. Gotta make the tools |
| 13:02:19 | pyromance | Or does the daily build come with a precompiled ajbrec.ajz? |
| 13:02:33 | tracktheripper | Zagor that wasnt just my idea, it was midknights as well |
| 13:02:33 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 13:03:00 | Zagor | pyromance: yes, you can download it precompiled |
| 13:03:22 | pyromance | Oh duh ... I didn't scroll down ;) |
| 13:04:19 | Zagor | :) |
| 13:04:46 | tracktheripper | zagor that was midknights idea as well |
| 13:05:06 | Zagor | tracktheripper: fine |
| 13:05:28 | tracktheripper | except I sent it because he didn't know how to word it |
| 13:06:45 | pyromance | Worked, Zagor! |
| 13:06:51 | pyromance | And it plays the song it was locking on before |
| 13:07:05 | Zagor | good |
| 13:07:59 | pyromance | Hmm |
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| 13:08:26 | earHurts | boogle |
| 13:08:27 | pyromance | It's not showing my level meter or stats bar in my custom .cfg anymore |
| 13:08:36 | pyromance | I may have to rework that |
| 13:09:07 | Zagor | pyromance: have you reloaded your custom wps file? |
| 13:09:21 | earHurts | settings reset reset tnhat too |
| 13:09:30 | Zagor | exactly |
| 13:09:41 | pyromance | I know but I saved my .cfg to a file and loaded that up again |
| 13:09:49 | Zagor | ok |
| 13:10:15 | pyromance | But when I play a song, I don't see the level meters or the status bar, even though both say "on" in the function key menus |
| 13:10:58 | pyromance | Oh wait ... status bar is there... level meter is not |
| 13:11:48 | earHurts | check your wps syntax |
| 13:13:15 | pyromance | DUH |
| 13:13:17 | pyromance | my fault again |
| 13:13:26 | pyromance | I saved the .cfg, not the .wps |
| 13:13:31 | pyromance | grr |
| 13:14:50 | pyromance | It's been so long since I have had to do any OS stuff on the Archos. Rockbox does exactly what an operating system should... install and forget about it |
| 13:17:50 | pyromance | thank you thank you |
| 13:24:29 | pyromance | Now all the Rockbox needs is a way to "escape out" of automatic replaying if you happen to have a corrupt file. Perhaps holding the "up" arrow on boot? |
| 13:24:31 | Zagor | :-) |
| 13:24:31 | pyromance | BRB |
| 13:31:01 | pyromance | Hmm ... Now all my consumer electronics run open-source OS's. |
| 13:32:20 | earHurts | what others? |
| 13:32:24 | dwihno | Microwave oven? ;) |
| 13:32:33 | pyromance | No .. handheld computer and MP3 player |
| 13:33:21 | dwihno | Would be neat with a microwave oven running Linux ;D |
| 13:33:32 | pyromance | Well my handheld runs Linux ... OpenZaurus |
| 13:33:57 | dwihno | OpenWalrus ;D |
| 13:35:20 | pyromance | But it's a handheld that is meant to run Linux. Now if it only had a USB host controller, I could plug the Z into the Archos for data storage or use the Z as my MP3 player and have live playlist editing and color visualizations |
| 13:38:06 | earHurts | zaurus 5500? |
| 13:38:13 | pyromance | That's the one |
| 13:38:29 | earHurts | I'mn typing this on a 5600 |
| 13:38:38 | pyromance | Hahaha. Neat. |
| 13:39:23 | earHurts | hard to find good software for it though. |
| 13:39:35 | dwihno | What can you run on the zaurus? |
| 13:39:42 | pyromance | Yeah... The bloom has fallen off the rose. |
| 13:40:02 | earHurts | well, it uses thw qtopia linbs. |
| 13:40:05 | pyromance | It's a great idea that is just .. too cutting edge. Not enough developers |
| 13:40:45 | earHurts | I can't find a usuable vnc, even. |
| 13:41:00 | earHurts | palm os offers alot more software. |
| 13:41:26 | earHurts | the irc client works fine though. |
| 13:41:51 | pyromance | Really? VNC worked for me. |
| 13:42:18 | earHurts | yeah, ther's some subntle problem on the 5600 |
| 13:42:47 | pyromance | fbvncserver (with a tweak or two ... specifically ripping the old busybox from the 2.38 retail SHARP ROM and using it's mknod function) worked on OpenZaurus on the 5500 |
| 13:42:55 | pyromance | Well if you don't like the 5600 I'll trade ya ;) |
| 13:43:23 | earHurts | i'll wait a bit. ;) |
| 13:44:12 | pyromance | haha |
| 13:44:39 | earHurts | have you found a decent coden editor for the zaurus? |
| 13:44:44 | pyromance | It's funny .. I have my Archos and my Zaurus and I'm now too poor to buy a motherboard to fix my Athlon |
| 13:44:52 | pyromance | Um ... vi? |
| 13:45:08 | earHurts | hah |
| 13:46:49 | earHurts | vimn in a pinch. not vi |
| 13:47:13 | pyromance | Find a way to use the Archos attached to the Z and I'll be happy |
| 13:48:33 | earHurts | I'd like that too. |
| 13:48:33 | pyromance | Well ... write a driver for this: http://shop.store.yahoo.com/firewireshop/newusb11hosa.html |
| 13:49:53 | earHurts | very nnice! |
| 13:50:05 | pyromance | Perfect tool for the Zaurus |
| 13:50:11 | earHurts | bnut i want it as an sd card |
| 13:50:19 | dwihno | vimn? |
| 13:50:26 | earHurts | i use the cf slot for wifi |
| 13:50:31 | earHurts | vim |
| 13:50:55 | pyromance | Me too. I have a POS Netgear MA701 card |
| 13:51:11 | earHurts | ambicom |
| 13:51:52 | pyromance | Any good? |
| 13:52:04 | * | pyromance can't wait for Orinoco Gold CF cards |
| 13:52:32 | earHurts | it works. |
| 13:52:48 | earHurts | i'm wifi'ing to you right now |
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| 13:53:06 | pyromance | I blame my problems on my router ... an SMC 7004VWBR |
| 13:53:12 | pyromance | Crappy crappy thing |
| 13:53:34 | earHurts | i'm using ann access point and w2k ics |
| 13:54:11 | pyromance | I need a "real" router. I do too much NAT port forwarding |
| 13:54:33 | pyromance | VNC and SSH for my Linux box, web and RDP for my briefcase machine, etc. |
| 13:54:38 | earHurts | yeah, i was bneing cheap |
| 13:54:51 | pyromance | Hehehe |
| 13:55:25 | pyromance | Well as I said, I can't even afford to replace my motherboard at the moment |
| 13:55:27 | earHurts | access point via usb |
| 13:55:48 | pyromance | Want to see cheap? My least expensive machine: http://pyromaniac.net/casemod/briefcase/ |
| 13:57:26 | earHurts | cool. |
| 13:57:55 | pyromance | Just a few hundred from start to finish |
| 13:58:06 | pyromance | Actually my CHEAPEST machine is an HP Celeron 466 ... It was free |
| 13:58:08 | earHurts | nice |
| 13:58:24 | pyromance | Co-worker was throwing it away 'cause the motherboard is flaky |
| 13:58:31 | earHurts | ah |
| 13:58:47 | pyromance | If you power it off, you have to wait half an hour or else it won't POST again. So I installed RedHat on it ... now I never power it off |
| 13:59:08 | earHurts | good idea |
| 13:59:44 | pyromance | I may replace the board with another mini-ITX board eventually ... but it's not really needed yet |
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| 14:00:00 | earHurts | hmm |
| 14:10:12 | pyromance | OK anyway... thanks for the help! |
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| 15:38:09 | Stevie[FP] | has anybody seen [IDC]? |
| 15:39:06 | >>> | "seen" used by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) [snoop prevented] |
| 15:39:22 | #>> | "seen" used by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) [snoop prevented] |
| 15:40:33 | Stevie[FP] | meh. |
| 15:41:15 | Stevie[FP] | I wish someone had updated the 'Research Notes' for the JBR and FM |
| 15:42:54 | webmind | can someone tell me why with the cueue function rockbox returns to the original play list/ directory ? |
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| 15:54:03 | Stevie[FP] | meh |
| 15:54:12 | Stevie[FP] | I wish I had IDC's notes |
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| 16:05:56 | Stevie[FP] | WTF |
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| 17:00:37 | TBoy | hoi |
| 17:00:46 | TBoy | I have a question |
| 17:00:51 | Bagder | shoot |
| 17:01:49 | TBoy | could we integrate an option wich cuts silence at start and/or end if below some specific sound level |
| 17:02:24 | Bagder | I think its possible |
| 17:02:55 | TBoy | ok thx |
| 17:03:00 | elinenbe | TBoy: go ahead and make a patch for it! :) |
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| 17:05:36 | TBoy | hehe I could try but my coding knowledge isn't adequate to do that |
| 17:05:47 | TBoy | but he I'm gonna try |
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| 17:18:09 | | Nick matsl is now known as matsl|meeting (~matsl@dhcp101.contactor.se) |
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| 17:22:34 | Kuji_ | http://www.archos.com/ |
| 17:22:38 | Kuji_ | new one is released |
| 17:22:39 | Kuji_ | mmm |
| 17:25:26 | Kuji_ | http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/30985.html |
| 17:25:28 | Stevie[FP] | new what? |
| 17:25:48 | Kuji_ | archos |
| 17:26:16 | Stevie[FP] | The AV320 costs $569.95 and the AV340, $629.95. |
| 17:26:17 | Stevie[FP] | jeez |
| 17:27:49 | * | Stevie[FP] is back from [(Auto-Away after 1hr)] [gone 6mins 58secs] [KS] |
| 17:27:53 | elinenbe | where did you see those prices? |
| 17:28:09 | Stevie[FP] | at the bottom of the article you just mentioned |
| 17:29:48 | Stevie[FP] | wtf is with this GMX thing |
| 17:30:26 | * | Stevie[FP] grumbles |
| 17:30:29 | Stevie[FP] | and where tf is everyone |
| 17:32:40 | Stevie[FP] | logbot seen linusN |
| 17:32:47 | * | Stevie[FP] pretends he's cool enough to be acknowledged |
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| 18:12:07 | quelsaruk | Stevie[FP]: anything else? |
| 18:13:11 | Stevie[FP] | heh |
| 18:13:24 | Stevie[FP] | I'm trying to write an emulator |
| 18:13:26 | Stevie[FP] | for the Archos |
| 18:13:37 | Stevie[FP] | I've got the boot firmware dumps |
| 18:13:46 | Stevie[FP] | but they lock up in an infinite loop |
| 18:14:09 | Stevie[FP] | I need Linus or IDC to tell me wtf it is I'm emulating wrong =/ |
| 18:14:22 | adi|home | why are you writing an archos emulator? |
| 18:16:36 | Stevie[FP] | because we don't have one? |
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| 18:16:43 | adi|home | but do we need one? |
| 18:16:46 | Stevie[FP] | I think so |
| 18:16:51 | adi|home | what for? |
| 18:17:16 | adi|home | i mean.. where do you want the emulator to run? |
| 18:17:17 | Stevie[FP] | not all of us have the stuff to somehow hook gdb up to an actual jb |
| 18:17:25 | Stevie[FP] | on a PC? |
| 18:17:56 | adi|home | right.. but why not just use the simulator |
| 18:18:00 | adi|home | thats why its there |
| 18:18:02 | Stevie[FP] | because the simulator isn't the same |
| 18:18:51 | adi|home | i just don't get the point of the effort... its your time/buisness :) |
| 18:19:40 | Stevie[FP] | C:\tmp\rockbox-daily-20030513-p>grep -r "#if.*SIMULATOR" * | wc -l |
| 18:19:41 | Stevie[FP] | 85 |
| 18:19:59 | Stevie[FP] | that's 85 locations where the code is *different* on a simulator |
| 18:21:21 | adi|home | i understand that.. |
| 18:21:39 | adi|home | the the simulator is there to test code until you can transfer it to the archos itself... |
| 18:21:45 | Stevie[FP] | ok |
| 18:21:46 | adi|home | thats all |
| 18:22:16 | adi|home | im not against you doing the emu don't get me wrong... |
| 18:22:27 | adi|home | I just was wondering the reasons |
| 18:22:31 | quelsaruk | adi|home: btw how's that gameboy emulation? ;) |
| 18:22:41 | adi|home | lol |
| 18:22:45 | adi|home | no gameboy here... |
| 18:23:38 | quelsaruk | umm |
| 18:23:46 | quelsaruk | who was doing that emulation then?? |
| 18:23:50 | quelsaruk | or am i wrong... |
| 18:24:06 | quelsaruk | i'm crazy, so that could be just a dream |
| 18:24:07 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 18:24:37 | Stevie[FP] | adi|home: and what if you want to test stuff for the Player but you don't have a player? |
| 18:38:48 | adi|home | you use the simulator ;) |
| 18:38:57 | adi|home | thats why they are there :) |
| 18:46:01 | quelsaruk | Stevie[FP]: do you remember what we talked about my hd? |
| 18:47:14 | Stevie[FP] | no? |
| 18:47:23 | Stevie[FP] | adi|home: as I said, not all the functionality is available on the Simulator |
| 18:47:50 | quelsaruk | Stevie[FP]: i could use my jukebox, but i couldn't plug it to the pc |
| 18:48:19 | Stevie[FP] | ok, I vaguely recall that |
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| 19:05:37 | zmad | hi all |
| 19:06:31 | zmad | Do u think the next version contains Directory creation? |
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| 19:36:42 | hardeep | elinenbe: around? |
| 19:38:35 | zmad | Do u think the next version contains Directory creation? |
| 19:39:03 | hardeep | zmad: it may... just need someone to code it. =) |
| 19:39:26 | zmad | I hope! |
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| 19:42:27 | quelsaruk | Stevie[FP]: you told me to press the OFF button 7 seconds |
| 19:42:42 | quelsaruk | i've done that and now.. it doesn't work |
| 19:42:43 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 19:43:15 | quelsaruk | we've found out a new thing. If an HD does weird things.. DO NOT press off button 7 secs ;) |
| 19:43:28 | TheSeige | so does anyone want to encorporate a patch for me and send me the binary? |
| 19:44:14 | quelsaruk | which patch TheSeige? |
| 19:44:29 | TheSeige | the car ignition start one |
| 19:44:52 | TheSeige | cam.patch |
| 19:45:15 | quelsaruk | wait a minute |
| 19:45:16 | quelsaruk | :) |
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| 19:59:28 | quelsaruk | TheSeige: my webbrowser is doing some strange things... |
| 19:59:32 | quelsaruk | sorry for the delay |
| 19:59:47 | TheSeige | its cool, i could send it to ya if ya need |
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| 20:04:49 | TheSeige | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=736339&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 20:05:00 | TheSeige | thats the link quelsaruk |
| 20:09:37 | quelsaruk | i can't open the link |
| 20:09:40 | quelsaruk | dunno why.. |
| 20:09:48 | TheSeige | do you want me to send it? |
| 20:10:04 | quelsaruk | ok |
| 20:10:23 | quelsaruk | i've got it |
| 20:10:24 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 20:10:34 | TheSeige | sweet |
| 20:11:28 | TheSeige | im gunna go hit the shower ill be back in like 20 |
| 20:19:33 | quelsaruk | TheSeige: recorder?? |
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| 20:31:34 | TheSeige | naw its a player |
| 20:31:44 | TheSeige | quelsaruk |
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| 20:35:22 | quelsaruk | ok |
| 20:36:26 | quelsaruk | TheSeige: where do i send the file? |
| 20:38:29 | TheSeige | 1webercj@uvsc.edu |
| 20:38:30 | TheSeige | you really did it? |
| 20:38:38 | quelsaruk | yups |
| 20:38:49 | TheSeige | dude thank you sooo much |
| 20:39:11 | quelsaruk | just in time.. |
| 20:39:30 | quelsaruk | the creator of the patch has added an executable to his website |
| 20:39:31 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 20:40:07 | quelsaruk | the archos.mod file no? |
| 20:40:10 | quelsaruk | umm |
| 20:40:12 | quelsaruk | yups |
| 20:40:15 | quelsaruk | i think so |
| 20:40:16 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 20:40:40 | quelsaruk | message sent |
| 20:40:58 | TheSeige | yeah yeah |
| 20:41:48 | TheSeige | dude thanx so much, i really appreciae it |
| 20:42:26 | quelsaruk | no prob |
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| 20:54:09 | TheSeige | um i dunno if it is workin |
| 20:55:38 | TheSeige | nm |
| 20:58:25 | * | Stevie[FP] is back from [f00d] [gone 1hr 59mins 15secs] [KS] |
| 20:58:43 | Stevie[FP] | TheSeige |
| 20:58:48 | Stevie[FP] | never say an email address here |
| 20:58:56 | TheSeige | yes |
| 20:59:05 | Stevie[FP] | the logs are posted to a website |
| 20:59:16 | TheSeige | oh my bad |
| 20:59:19 | Stevie[FP] | quelsaruk: do you know who wrote logbot? |
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| 21:02:58 | quelsaruk | dunno Stevie[FP] |
| 21:03:12 | >>> | "help" by quelsaruk (swordmaste@faerun.ugr.es) |
| 21:03:24 | quelsaruk | a Dancer V4.16p1 bot |
| 21:03:52 | quelsaruk | that's all i know |
| 21:04:12 | TheSeige | quelsaruk: is there a way to make this thing power up, when a power source is connected to it? |
| 21:04:46 | quelsaruk | TheSeige: modding it? |
| 21:05:12 | TheSeige | hopefully not, i was thinkin software wise |
| 21:05:16 | quelsaruk | when you plug it, it starts archos firmware |
| 21:05:23 | quelsaruk | maybe, when rockbox at rom... |
| 21:05:43 | quelsaruk | *is on rom |
| 21:06:21 | TheSeige | im not sure what you mean |
| 21:06:29 | quelsaruk | ok |
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| 21:06:56 | quelsaruk | when you connect your jukebox to an external power source, |
| 21:07:08 | quelsaruk | and the jukebox is OFF, |
| 21:07:32 | quelsaruk | it starts archos charge, no? |
| 21:08:00 | TheSeige | no, it will start the firmware and start playing, like a car radio |
| 21:08:17 | Stevie[FP] | no |
| 21:08:23 | Stevie[FP] | it doesn't do that... |
| 21:08:25 | Stevie[FP] | it just starts charging |
| 21:08:49 | TheSeige | so there is no way of getting around that |
| 21:09:23 | Stevie[FP] | not yet |
| 21:09:37 | Stevie[FP] | someone is working on that |
| 21:09:51 | Stevie[FP] | also, there is a non-mod way around it |
| 21:10:03 | Stevie[FP] | though I don't know if you could controllably exploit it |
| 21:10:33 | Stevie[FP] | if you plug it in, the archos turns on |
| 21:10:38 | TheSeige | well i basically only use this for my car, so if i have to mod, then thats what ill do |
| 21:10:54 | Stevie[FP] | if you remove AC power before that, it thinks you pressed the ON button and starts up normally |
| 21:11:03 | Stevie[FP] | Someone mailed the list about that |
| 21:11:47 | TheSeige | oh |
| 21:11:47 | TheSeige | hmm |
| 21:12:22 | * | Stevie[FP] growls at all the people who keep ignoring him |
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| 21:22:23 | quelsaruk | Stevie[FP]: i'm in another world.. sorry |
| 21:22:24 | quelsaruk | :( |
| 21:22:32 | Stevie[FP] | not you |
| 21:22:37 | Stevie[FP] | ppl like linus and IDC |
| 21:22:50 | Stevie[FP] | who are withholding information from me by not being here |
| 21:23:13 | quelsaruk | :( |
| 21:23:24 | quelsaruk | talking about that car ignition... |
| 21:24:00 | quelsaruk | having rockbox on rom, we could tell rockbox to turn on when pluged to AC |
| 21:24:02 | Stevie[FP] | they're both here all the time |
| 21:24:10 | Stevie[FP] | until I finally need them |
| 21:24:23 | Stevie[FP] | then, nowhere to be seen |
| 21:25:34 | Stevie[FP] | =/ |
| 21:25:37 | * | Stevie[FP] paces |
| 21:25:58 | Stevie[FP] | my emulator seems to be working ok |
| 21:26:06 | quelsaruk | really? |
| 21:26:11 | quelsaruk | can i have a look? |
| 21:26:11 | Stevie[FP] | well |
| 21:26:16 | Stevie[FP] | the CPU emulation is OK |
| 21:26:19 | Stevie[FP] | nothing else works |
| 21:26:35 | Stevie[FP] | the program seems to be locking up trying to access some serial port |
| 21:26:54 | quelsaruk | hehe |
| 21:27:03 | quelsaruk | mail linus |
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| 21:27:08 | Stevie[FP] | I did |
| 21:27:11 | Stevie[FP] | no response |
| 21:27:20 | quelsaruk | if you got no response from him... |
| 21:27:34 | quelsaruk | is because he has some really important thing on mind |
| 21:27:36 | quelsaruk | for sure |
| 21:27:38 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 21:27:41 | quelsaruk | he's a good guy |
| 21:27:41 | Stevie[FP] | i c. |
| 21:27:50 | Stevie[FP] | I also e-mailed [idc]dragon |
| 21:28:01 | Stevie[FP] | I emailed him several days ago |
| 21:28:27 | Stevie[FP] | I think I'm doing something wrong with certain PIO pins |
| 21:29:02 | Stevie[FP] | but I don't know what is the *right* thing to do, b/c I don't have all the necessary schematics |
| 21:30:53 | quelsaruk | i'm a newbie in that. Sorry |
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| 21:36:39 | Juliius | lo all |
| 21:36:50 | Stevie[FP] | lo |
| 21:37:02 | Juliius | just installed the rockbox...great product! |
| 21:37:14 | Juliius | of, course ... being a n00b, I had a question |
| 21:37:21 | TheSeige | hey i got a question, i have the remote for the player and the plug is a three band type plug, but the cord on it is like 8 inches, i want it to be like way longer, anyone know where to get an extender wire or something? |
| 21:38:00 | Juliius | when I'm playing a playlist ... can I browse through the playlist? If so, how? |
| 21:38:16 | Stevie[FP] | Juliius: there's no playlist browser atm... |
| 21:38:20 | TheSeige | press the on button |
| 21:38:32 | Juliius | Thanks, that answers my question |
| 21:38:50 | TheSeige | doesnt pressing on let you browse? |
| 21:39:55 | Juliius | On takes you back to the dir list |
| 21:40:20 | Juliius | so...if you were last browsing thru the directory from which your playlist was created...then YEAH...you would be browsing from that playlist |
| 21:40:38 | Juliius | sort of |
| 21:40:48 | TheSeige | ok i get ya, ive never tried with the pay list |
| 21:41:29 | Juliius | One other question ... when a playlist is compiled it reflects the structure of the directory? |
| 21:41:38 | Juliius | that is, order of files? |
| 21:42:59 | Stevie[FP] | ya |
| 21:43:08 | Juliius | k, thanks again |
| 21:43:20 | Juliius | Seige..you got a remote to which player? |
| 21:44:03 | quelsaruk | cu! |
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| 21:45:35 | TheSeige | player |
| 21:45:35 | TheSeige | 20 gig |
| 21:45:56 | Juliius | w/ FM receiver? |
| 21:46:15 | TheSeige | im sure i can slice the wire and do it, but i dont wanna have to do that |
| 21:46:15 | TheSeige | no |
| 21:46:30 | Juliius | o yeah...PlaYER...sry...I'm new to these gadgets |
| 21:46:34 | Juliius | just got mine yesterday |
| 21:46:45 | TheSeige | its some fun stuff |
| 21:46:51 | Juliius | yeah, pretty cool |
| 21:47:08 | Juliius | replacing my wifes 12 disc changer |
| 21:47:14 | TheSeige | im gunna be fiberglassing mine in my car soon |
| 21:47:28 | Juliius | kewl...same idea then, huh? |
| 21:47:28 | Juliius | hehe |
| 21:47:45 | Juliius | do they make any useful "car kits" for these things? |
| 21:47:51 | Juliius | that you know of anyway? |
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| 21:48:23 | TheSeige | no, i just wanted the remote, all the other stuff that came with it was useless (for me) |
| 21:48:40 | Juliius | right |
| 21:48:50 | Juliius | where'd you get the remote? |
| 21:49:01 | Yeft | to fm or not to fm that IS the question |
| 21:49:13 | TheSeige | webpage |
| 21:50:09 | Juliius | Archos' webpage? you got a link? |
| 21:50:52 | TheSeige | err i havent been there for awile, just got there and there is links to it on the main page i think |
| 21:51:03 | Juliius | k, I'll check it out |
| 21:51:22 | TheSeige | serious tho i need this wire to be like 20 inches longer |
| 21:51:26 | Yeft | brb |
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| 21:51:34 | Juliius | now, if you're using this Rockbox OS, can you still use musicmatch's playlists? |
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| 21:51:44 | Juliius | yeah, you may have to do some splicing |
| 21:51:56 | Juliius | where does the remote plugin? ... the usb? |
| 21:52:50 | TheSeige | the ear part, and you plug your headphones into the remote, kinda shitty |
| 21:53:16 | Juliius | hmm...but it works, right? |
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| 21:53:40 | TheSeige | yeah it works great, and volume is on the remote which is nice |
| 21:53:52 | Juliius | cool |
| 21:54:23 | Juliius | do you know if'n I can transfer musicmatch playslist? ... I'm guessing they'd still work |
| 21:54:58 | Yeft | yeh |
| 21:54:59 | TheSeige | id assume, but i dunno, ive never used em, i know winamp playlists work |
| 21:55:03 | Yeft | if its an M3U |
| 21:55:16 | Juliius | oki ... thanks guys |
| 21:55:18 | Yeft | all playlists are the same, or should be |
| 21:55:24 | Juliius | right...I figured |
| 21:55:39 | Juliius | nice when a channel actually has people who aren't sleeping on it :P |
| 21:55:41 | Yeft | winamp has a different one..but also m3u |
| 21:55:47 | Yeft | lol |
| 21:55:56 | Yeft | seige...you think i should get the fm recorder |
| 21:55:57 | Yeft | ? |
| 21:56:19 | TheSeige | if it fits your needs man |
| 21:56:21 | Juliius | that's what I just bought |
| 21:56:43 | Juliius | I was suprised at how good the little receiver seems to work on mine |
| 21:56:46 | Yeft | you like it? |
| 21:56:53 | Juliius | but, I've only had it a day or two ... |
| 21:56:59 | Yeft | record any songs yet? |
| 21:57:03 | Juliius | nope |
| 21:57:03 | Yeft | is the quality good? |
| 21:57:05 | Juliius | not yet |
| 21:57:05 | Yeft | how are the games? |
| 21:57:12 | Juliius | hehe, the games are cool |
| 21:57:12 | Yeft | try, right now! |
| 21:57:17 | Juliius | rofl |
| 21:57:36 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Yeft |
| 21:57:36 | Yeft | 43w42hat are you 43w42aiting for!? |
| 21:58:09 | Juliius | actually, coulda done w/out the fm receiver |
| 21:58:24 | Juliius | don't really need one..but I thought I might do some actual voice recording |
| 21:58:34 | Yeft | then y not just the recorder |
| 21:58:56 | TheSeige | yeah, my friend uses he recorder to bootleg concerts |
| 21:59:03 | Juliius | the fm recorder was all the place I went to had |
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| 22:00:04 | Yeft | oh |
| 22:00:13 | Yeft | is there a built in mic? |
| 22:00:26 | TheSeige | yeah there is |
| 22:00:28 | Yeft | ok |
| 22:00:30 | Juliius | yeah |
| 22:01:17 | Yeft | i could see the fm recorder being very useful, like when your like (this song rocks! −−- o wait, we're 20 seconds in, o wait, 30 second buffer whoooohooo *record button* now i don't have to worry about downloading it!) |
| 22:02:21 | Juliius | how much price difference in the fm and no fm, you know? |
| 22:02:31 | Yeft | ummmmmm |
| 22:02:37 | Juliius | they make one where the ONLY variation is with or without FM? |
| 22:03:10 | Yeft | no |
| 22:03:19 | Yeft | its ten bucks and it looks like the JB6000 |
| 22:03:34 | Juliius | oic |
| 22:03:53 | Yeft | errr 50bucks |
| 22:03:59 | Yeft | the deluxe is 50 bucks cheaprer |
| 22:04:17 | Juliius | basically, I did a buncha research on these things some 6 months ago..and was pretty close to buying one ... but ended up not doing so until this last weekend |
| 22:04:53 | Yeft | oh |
| 22:05:07 | Yeft | i had my JB6000 for two years, til i killed it friday so i'm back in the market |
| 22:05:32 | Juliius | two years...that's a pretty good life for something that gets a lot of use (supposing you used it a lot) |
| 22:05:53 | Yeft | yeh |
| 22:05:58 | Yeft | well i cant say a full 2 years |
| 22:06:10 | Yeft | it probably spent a month or two in the drawwer til i rediscovered it |
| 22:06:12 | TheSeige | brb |
| 22:06:17 | Yeft | To me, clowns aren't funny. In fact, they're kind of scary. I've wondered where this started and I think it goes back to the time I went to the circus, and a clown killed my dad. 12-Jack Handy |
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| 22:06:57 | Yeft | bvmn 708 |
| 22:07:14 | Yeft | srry was cleaning my keyboard |
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| 22:09:38 | Yeft | brb |
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| 22:12:16 | TheSeige | so who owns rockbox.haxx.se? |
| 22:14:33 | Jet8810 | Bjorn |
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| 22:14:56 | TheSeige | sweet |
| 22:15:21 | TheSeige | he ever come on here? |
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| 23:56:56 | _aLF | hi |
| 23:57:31 | hardeep | hello |
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