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#rockbox log for 2003-07-03

00:06:00 Join msoultan [0] (msoultan@dhcp202-057.csulb.edu)
00:06:09msoultanhello?
00:06:16midknight2k3hey
00:06:23msoultancooool
00:06:30msoultanthis is my first time here..
00:06:30midknight2k3what?
00:06:48midknight2k3youre lucky theres a couple people here if you need something
00:06:53midknight2k3there isn't alyways
00:06:56midknight2k3always
00:07:00msoultanI was hoping someone could tell me how to create the .rockbox folder
00:07:11midknight2k3oh
00:07:13msoultanjust tried the latest bleeding edge and it won't play anything..
00:07:21midknight2k3yeah...
00:07:22msoultanlooking through the archives, couldn't find anything..
00:07:36midknight2k3well what you have to do is to download the rockbox 2.0 zip file and it's in there
00:07:38msoultanprobably the same reason I can't write a .cfg file
00:07:43msoultanahhhhhh
00:07:44midknight2k3just pop the .rockbox folder in there onto the archos
00:07:48msoultanok, lemme check that out..
00:07:50midknight2k3yeah
00:07:53msoultanbrb
00:08:03midknight2k3even if you make it you wont have the stuff to put in it, so you need that one
00:08:04midknight2k3ok
00:08:51[IDC]DragonRockbox is in flash now, but I got a problem
00:09:10Zagorok?
00:09:11midknight2k3coooool
00:09:14midknight2k3what though
00:09:14[IDC]Dragonat powerup, it gives ATA error -3
00:09:19midknight2k3uh oh
00:09:30midknight2k3that's not good
00:09:40[IDC]DragonBut very fast!
00:09:47midknight2k3loading?
00:09:53Zagorhehe
00:09:58midknight2k3i'd expect
00:10:03midknight2k3very cool
00:10:12midknight2k3soon maybe we all can do it!
00:10:19Zagorwasn't that what you got before you fixed the port settings?
00:10:24msoultanhey 2k3.. that's just got the rocks plugins
00:10:25[IDC]DragonI rarely had that with my UART boot experiments.
00:10:38[IDC]DragonNo, I had other failures.
00:10:44midknight2k3i meant...
00:10:46midknight2k3hang on ok
00:10:54msoultanI'm actually trying to figure out how to create that folder.. (windows won't let me)
00:10:56midknight2k3ill get you the link
00:10:59msoultanwerd
00:11:01midknight2k3i know
00:11:02midknight2k3hang on
00:11:04[IDC]DragonMaybe something is not settled.
00:11:07Zagormsoultan: you can create it from the command line
00:11:09midknight2k3it's becasue it has a . in it
00:11:22midknight2k3wait wait
00:11:29midknight2k3what kind do you have?
00:11:32midknight2k3player? recorder?
00:11:58msoultanrecorder
00:12:03msoultanyeah, the . was the prob
00:12:07midknight2k3http://rockbox.haxx.se/download/rockbox-2.0-recorder.zip
00:12:19midknight2k3just put the .rockbox folder that's in that zip on the archos
00:12:25msoultangot it
00:12:29midknight2k3it has all the fonts and stuff
00:12:38midknight2k3ah
00:12:40midknight2k3never mind
00:12:49midknight2k3you have to put all those things in the .rockbox folder
00:12:53midknight2k3my mistake
00:13:00midknight2k3so make it from the command prompt
00:13:20midknight2k3then put all the stuff in there, onto the archos' .rockbox folder
00:14:17midknight2k3Am i making sense? lol
00:15:41 Quit Stevie[FP] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
00:15:49msoultanyeah
00:15:51msoultanit worked
00:15:59midknight2k3yay
00:16:03msoultanI just unziped it and dropped it in
00:16:18midknight2k3good
00:16:19msoultanI hadn't followed the .rockbox folder development
00:16:25midknight2k3and then you get sudtom fonts!
00:16:32midknight2k3custom
00:16:33midknight2k3:)
00:16:53msoultanso, now if I save the cfg file, it'll stop resetting the bass and treble, too.. huh?
00:17:09midknight2k3now that you have .rockbox
00:17:11midknight2k3yeah
00:17:29midknight2k3and you can make your own WPS now too if you want
00:17:34msoultanis custom00.cfg loaded at startup?
00:17:47midknight2k3..not that i know of
00:17:59midknight2k3i think it just loads what it was last time but not a specific one
00:18:09msoultanohh.. but you just hit play and it loads the settings..
00:18:16msoultanso, it's not that bad...
00:18:20midknight2k3no
00:18:26midknight2k3it wont reset t he settings anymore
00:18:30midknight2k3it shouldn't
00:18:30msoultanit just did
00:18:41midknight2k3unless you load different settings
00:18:42midknight2k3odd
00:18:46msoultanIt's really wierd, if I don't do an update for a while, it'll reset my bass, treble
00:18:55msoultan(reset 'em to +6, both)
00:19:05msoultanand the light, and hard drive timeouts, etc
00:19:09midknight2k3never heard of it
00:19:17msoultanyeah, kinda strange
00:19:26msoultanI just changed it today after I downloaded the latest update..
00:19:31msoultanhadn't updated for a month or so
00:19:44msoultanif I download every few days, I didn't have the reset
00:20:03midknight2k3Zagor, any ideas?
00:20:05midknight2k3i have no idea
00:20:51hardeepmsoultan: the settings were forced to reset due to some recent changes
00:21:07msoultanaha..
00:21:19 Join Stevie[FreedomPa [0] (~whatsit2u@65.114.136.196)
00:21:23midknight2k3bye then all
00:21:28msoultanit's weird that you reset the bass and treble to +6
00:21:41hardeepmsoultan: those are the defaults
00:21:45msoultanI think I posted it to the list a long time ago and someone said they like that
00:21:51msoultandistorts the player..
00:21:58msoultan(recorder)
00:22:02msoultan(during playback)
00:22:06msoultanyou know what I mean.
00:22:10 Quit midknight2k3 ("BYE!!!!!!!!!! BYEBYE!!! SEE YOU LATER!! MISS YOU!!!! BYE!!! BYYYEEEE!!! SEEYA ALL!!! LATER!!!! -=SysReset 2.53=-")
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00:25:29msoultanhey, just curious, does hardeep's playlist patch allow duplicates?
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00:30:27msoultanhey, I think I found a bug..
00:31:16msoultanif anyone's interested, if you hold down the up arrow (on the recorder) while it's scrolling up, then tap it a few more times, you get the same menu as pressing f2
00:31:35msoultancan't exactly repeat it.. but it happens quite often
00:32:13msoultananyways, I don't want to sit here and complain about stuff. It's working great for the most part and it's great to be rockin' again. Thanks for all your help!
00:33:27Zagorthat's a hardware problem
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00:37:17diddystar5hey
00:38:08diddystar5would someone with ssh access add snake to games_menu.c?
00:38:47hardeepdiddystar5: just "PLAY
00:38:52hardeeper "PLAY" the file
00:39:30diddystar5i know but sometime it should be added to the games menu
00:39:46diddystar5i did in my version
00:39:59Zagorno. we will make a dynamic rock browser instead
00:40:21diddystar5nice zagor!
00:42:29msoultanhey hardeep, is there a way to remove a song that's playing from the current (dynamic) playlist?
00:42:55diddystar5sounds like that would be easy i think i *might* would be able to do that myself
00:43:02hardeepmsoultan: not yet... need to add a playlist viewer
00:43:18msoultanahhh
00:43:23hardeepmsoultan: the mechanism exists in the dynamic playlist code
00:43:43msoultanthat would be a hot feature.. even a hotkey to pull the song out
00:43:51msoultanor would that still be linked to the playlist viewer?
00:44:16hardeepmsoultan: i guess we could make a hotkey for deleting current song
00:44:51msoultanthat would be slick. There are times that I'm wondering why the heck I added a song and wanted to pull it out quickly
00:48:18Zagorbed time
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00:57:00 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@AC916C96.ipt.aol.com)
00:57:09tracktheripperthe Snake plugin is cool
00:59:44diddystar5for some reason cygwin is working VERY slow on my puter right now
00:59:55tracktheripper:(
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01:00:19diddystar5think i need another stick of ram
01:01:04diddystar5i already have 256mb
01:02:41tracktheripperi have 640mb
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01:03:09diddystar5ohhhh you should be happy :)
01:03:28tracktheripperhad 128mb stuck in an extra 512
01:03:31ch0ppedl1verok
01:03:33diddystar5im using a notebook right now i'm on vacation
01:03:36ch0ppedl1verwindows appears to be very confused
01:04:05ch0ppedl1vercuz it says that my ethernet adapter is disconnected from the network
01:04:23ch0ppedl1verexcept my presence here is rather firm evidence to the contrary
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01:06:46 Quit msoultan (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
01:07:04hardeepmsoultan: did you have a hotkey in mind?
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01:10:13diddystar5i get the error make[2]: *** [all] Error 255 while making the plugins
01:10:20diddystar5any ideas to fix it
01:10:35diddystar5the plugins still get compiled though
01:11:11hardeepdiddystar5: does it say any more than that?
01:12:24diddystar5no right after generating object code for wormlet, it gives me the error then goes to linking
01:13:45hardeepwhat size are the generated .rock files?
01:15:10diddystar5they appear to be normal wormlet = 7.42 kb tetris = 10.3 kb
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01:15:38diddystar5they all play, i just tried them
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01:16:31[IDC]DragonHey, it's working!
01:16:59[IDC]Dragon(you don't know what?)
01:17:14[IDC]DragonRockbox is in Flash!
01:17:24diddystar5ohhhh cool!!!!!!!!!
01:17:24ch0ppedl1verreally?
01:17:24hardeep[IDC]Dragon: awesome!
01:17:27ch0ppedl1verdude
01:17:30ch0ppedl1vergive me the memory dumps
01:17:44ch0ppedl1ver!
01:17:47diddystar5i don't know much about your work do ya gotta do mods?
01:17:48[IDC]DragonI had to add some code which waits for the disk to be ready.
01:18:05ch0ppedl1verhmm, that makes sense
01:18:10[IDC]DragonThis was a new situation for Rockbox ;-)
01:18:21ch0ppedl1verlol
01:18:26ch0ppedl1verwe're always waiting for the damn disk to be ready!
01:18:47*ch0ppedl1ver looks at the pnp stuph
01:18:51[IDC]DragonIt takes about 3 seconds from pressing the power button 'til the music resumes.
01:19:01ch0ppedl1verthree seconds? lmao
01:19:09ch0ppedl1verthe original archos firmware takes like 30 seconds just to boot
01:19:17[IDC]DragonNot bad compared to about 18 before?
01:19:17diddystar5cool
01:19:35*diddystar5 is excited
01:20:02[IDC]DragonI have to check on how I can record a video clip with my webcam.
01:21:19[IDC]DragonDiddy, right now I had to make a mod, to be able to use the UART boot feature of the ROM.
01:21:38diddystar5ok i see
01:21:38[IDC]DragonThis allows to inject code before the flash is touched.
01:22:07[IDC]DragonSo I can reprogram even if the flash is completely screwed up.
01:22:46[IDC]DragonWhen the thing is stable, Rockbox will get a menu option to flash itself.
01:23:01[IDC]DragonBut first we need some confidence.
01:23:17ch0ppedl1verjust a leetle beet
01:23:38ch0ppedl1veractually, hmmmm
01:23:43diddystar5so archos firmware we be GONE from my archos :)
01:23:51ch0ppedl1verhow can rockbox know
01:24:03[IDC]DragonYes, mine hasn't got a byte left of it.
01:24:06ch0ppedl1verwhich ajz file was used?
01:24:16diddystar5yeah!!!
01:24:44[IDC]DragonCurrently, there is no ajz loading on startup, you already have rockbox.
01:24:55[IDC]DragonBut you can use rolo later on.
01:26:12diddystar5do you have to add code like for charging? when you plug in the power when it is off
01:27:11[IDC]DragonProbably. Right now it goes on when you plug in.
01:27:42diddystar5someone shoud make a mod for removing "Jukebox" on the front of the thing and put "Rockbox on it" ;)
01:28:18[IDC]DragonJust found: I cannot power it off when the charger is plugged.
01:30:11diddystar5my dumb questions are good for something
01:31:18ch0ppedl1verthe charger power floods out the FET
01:32:29diddystar5i need to go to a programming class about all i go do on my own is make a dumb little "toy" program
01:33:13[IDC]DragonThis flashing business in fact raises a lot of question I'm walking around with since a while.
01:33:23diddystar5the problem is i'm only 13
01:33:31[IDC]DragonIt's all about how I can make this foolproof.
01:34:11[IDC]DragonI definitely want people to flash the latest bleeding edge build.
01:34:19ch0ppedl1vererr
01:34:24[IDC]DragonOr a file for the wrong platform.
01:34:25ch0ppedl1verwhy?
01:34:28ch0ppedl1veroh
01:34:31ch0ppedl1veri think you missed a 'not'
01:35:03[IDC]DragonIf you goof, only the UART boot mod can get you out again. And that needs the serial mod, too.
01:35:19[IDC]DragonNot bleeding edge, yes.
01:35:59[IDC]DragonIf flashing goes wrong, you can seriously lock the box.
01:36:07ch0ppedl1verthen we can call it LockBox
01:36:09diddystar5people want be happy with that you have to take the boards apart :(
01:36:20ch0ppedl1ver;)
01:37:33ch0ppedl1ver[IDC]Dragon
01:37:43ch0ppedl1verdo you have it able to boot an .ajz file on the hd?
01:38:27[IDC]DragonUsing rolo from the browser, yes. Or what do you mean?
01:39:22hardeep[IDC]Dragon: since you're writing the flash utility anyways, you could just add a couple of checks before flashing to make sure the firmware is valid
01:39:35hardeepa model check is pretty easy and maybe define a "flashable" flag
01:40:32[IDC]DragonYes. I was thinking about using an unused exception vector as a target ID.
01:40:56[IDC]DragonWe have Player, Recorder, FM, and all that with 2 and 8 MB.
01:41:28diddystar5[IDC]Dragon: how many years have you been programming
01:41:32diddystar5?
01:41:33[IDC]Dragon10
01:41:53[IDC]Dragonprofessionally, I mean. Else 20.
01:42:55diddystar5cool
01:43:14[IDC]DragonThe flash thing in fact is easy, the difficult part was developing this UART boot toolchain.
01:43:45[IDC]DragonI have disassembled the boot ROM to find that.
01:46:12ch0ppedl1ver[IDC]Dragon: do you have it automatically ROLO the proper .ajz file on bootup? or do you have to do it manually atm?
01:46:41diddystar5just curious what tools(s) did you use to dissasemble?
01:48:04[IDC]Dragonch0pped: What do you mean with your rolo business? Rockbox is in the flash, no need to rolo right away.
01:48:40[IDC]Dragondiddy: in the tools directory is a disassembler.
01:49:32diddystar5o fergot about that "descramble"
01:51:37***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
01:51:57[IDC]DragonFirst there's a little boot loader in the flash, that gets descrambled by the boot ROM. But this is only 56 bytes and containes a loop which then plain copys rockbox from flash to RAM.
01:52:36[IDC]DragonThis saves some time, no need to descramble the big image.
01:53:59[IDC]DragonSo we have more time to wait for the disk ;-)
01:56:21ch0ppedl1ver[IDC]Dragon: if it takes less time
01:56:42ch0ppedl1verwhich it might, because we can theoretically create a new type of image that doesn't have to be descrambled
01:57:20[IDC]DragonYes, I thought about that, too.
01:57:26ch0ppedl1verthen it might be reasonable to have a bootloader in flash designated 'safe'
01:57:59ch0ppedl1verthat simply auto-ROLOs a boot image
01:58:45ch0ppedl1verthis means it would take more than 3 seconds to resume after power-on
01:58:55[IDC]DragonI'd prefer to have the version I want in flash ;-)
01:58:58ch0ppedl1verbut if the extra time is negligible
01:59:02ch0ppedl1verthat may be an option
01:59:09ch0ppedl1verbut as you pointed out
01:59:24diddystar5gotta go
01:59:24ch0ppedl1verwe don't want Joe Schmoe to accidentally trash his flash with a bleeding edge build
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02:02:36ch0ppedl1verhave i ever mentioned
02:02:40ch0ppedl1verthat pnp is a bitch
02:07:54[IDC]DragonTime to say goodnight!
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02:34:29telliottAnyone know of a good Windows program that will allow selecting multiple files for moving, deleting without holding ctrl or shift to keep multiple files selected?
02:34:46ch0ppedl1verwhy? is that too difficult for ye?
02:35:43telliottI just don't want to lose the selection while I evaluate files to delete on my full Archos.
02:59:55ch0ppedl1verso open two windows
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03:00:00ch0ppedl1verkeep the selection in one
03:00:11ch0ppedl1verdo your evaluation from the other
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16:14:44Quelsarukmorning
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16:37:28hardeepQuelsaruk: sure
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16:39:42Quelsaruka new version of dutch language file has been commited to the patch tracker
16:39:57Quelsarukbut i cannot access cvs or commit changes to it right now
16:40:40Quelsarukwould you mind commiting the new file?
16:41:45hardeepSure... do I need to verify it first?
16:42:01Quelsarukummm
16:42:06Quelsarukjust binlang it
16:42:07Quelsaruk:)
16:42:21Quelsarukbut you wont get any errors
16:42:38Quelsarukbut check it just in case zagor wants to kill someone
16:42:45Quelsarukhehe
16:43:22hardeep"String for LANG_STOP_ABORT misses quotes"... hehe, guess there are some errors... i'll fix and commit
16:43:39Quelsarukjummss...
16:44:03Quelsarukups, sorry. i thought it had no errors
16:44:38Quelsarukfirst quote
16:44:44hardeepyeah
16:44:48Quelsarukit's a ' and not a "
16:44:53Quelsaruk:)
16:45:08hardeepis it alright that the strings are not the same order as english.lang?
16:45:16hardeepno errors reported but it seems strange
16:45:29Quelsaruki asked that once, but seems that there's no problem
16:45:46Quelsarukthe only file that has to maintain the order is english.lang
16:45:57hardeepokay, cool
16:46:44Quelsarukthat was what bagder told me
16:47:22hardeepthat makes sense
16:47:33hardeepokay, change committed
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16:49:14diddystar5hey tracktheripper
16:49:14Quelsarukthx
16:49:27Quelsarukclosed the patch at the patch tracker?
16:51:17hardeepQuelsaruk: i don't have SF permissions
16:51:33Quelsarukok, i'll close it then
16:51:35Quelsaruk:)
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16:54:21Quelsarukthx hardeep
16:54:46hardeepnp
16:55:18diddystar5hardeep is the man! thanks for the source :)
16:56:05hardeep:)
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17:06:05diddystar5is the ID3 tag editor to big to be a plugin?
17:06:13Quelsarukdunno
17:06:32diddystar5i'm gonna give it a try
17:06:33Quelsarukthe id3 tag editor should be a plugin
17:10:40diddystar5uhh that may not work very well :(
17:11:50diddystar5my skills are not good enough for that you have to completely change the patch
17:12:30Quelsaruk:)
17:12:34Quelsarukwell.. not me
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17:45:28Lynx0How accurate can I expect the battery time left indicator to be, if I just play music?
17:46:19diddystar5_fairly accurate
17:46:45diddystar5_if you leave the backlight on and stuff it will way off
17:46:50diddystar5_*be
17:49:15Lynx0Seems to me i only have like half the time left. But I haven't really timed it.
17:50:37diddystar5_have you set the baterry capacity in system settings?
17:52:09diddystar5_has anyone done the led mod ( http://www.mctubster.com/led.html ) for the recorder?
17:52:57diddystar5_looks like it would be very easy since the light on are open right after you take the front thingy off
17:53:24diddystar5_*leds are open
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17:54:01Quelsaruki haven't done it
17:54:44diddystar5_i bet blue would look nice
17:56:20Lynx0Orange is not bad either, a few cellphones have orange or blue display lights
17:56:56Quelsaruki'd prefer red ones, but you can't use red leds easely, no?
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17:57:28diddystar5_not sure
17:57:47diddystar5_i might go to radioshackand get a few leds and give it a try
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18:00:36Lynx0blue: http://www.geocities.com/safe-community/archos.html
18:00:42MTthe led mod is incredibley difficult
18:00:50MTit requires very good soldering skills
18:03:58diddystar5_that looks cool
18:04:47MTsure go for it if you want
18:05:10MTall im saying is that its not in the slightest bit easy, and requires incredibley good soldering skills
18:05:18MTthose leds are tiny
18:05:54diddystar5_hehe im very scary with a soldering iron ;) need to find a old motherboard or somethin and practice
18:09:30diddystar5_gotta go lunch time :)
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19:15:25maleemiI just installed rockbox on my recorder 20 and when I start it up the screen in very dark, almost black. I can barely, barely read the menus because of the dark background. Anyone have any suggestions?
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19:55:01Quelsarukre
19:55:09midknight2k3?
19:55:10midknight2k3hey
19:55:47Quelsaruk:)
19:55:55midknight2k3what's "re"
19:55:59Quelsarukre-hi
19:56:03midknight2k3hi
19:56:31Quelsarukwhen you do something again, you "re"-do it
19:57:17midknight2k3yeah
19:57:23midknight2k3but i got here like a half hour ago
19:57:31midknight2k3so it wasn't exactly re hi
19:57:38midknight2k3ahh whatever :)
19:58:09Quelsaruk:)
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20:13:45PhantomDJPhi !
20:13:51midknight2k3hey
20:14:21PhantomDJPhum...
20:14:29midknight2k3?
20:14:35PhantomDJPI thing I will be hate but...
20:14:44midknight2k3go on
20:14:45PhantomDJPis there a reslease of Rombox ?
20:14:51midknight2k3not net
20:15:03midknight2k3if you mean a program to put rockbox in flash, not yet but soon
20:15:20PhantomDJPand is there any plug ins other than defaults ones ?
20:15:21midknight2k3rockbox was officially put in flash yesterday
20:15:28midknight2k3not yet i dont think
20:15:38midknight2k3download a new rocks package
20:15:44midknight2k3it has a few new ones i think
20:16:04PhantomDJPI ve the "rock.zip"
20:16:10midknight2k3yeah
20:16:12PhantomDJPbut each new "games"
20:16:14midknight2k3check the new one
20:16:19midknight2k3mm hmm
20:16:25midknight2k3that's mainly it now
20:16:30PhantomDJPwas already in my private version
20:16:31PhantomDJP:D
20:16:44midknight2k3soon people will make calendars, calculators, applications, id3 editors, etc
20:16:54midknight2k3soon
20:16:59midknight2k3you must wait till soon
20:17:01PhantomDJPhum..it 's a big step for Rockbox
20:17:04Quelsarukgame boy emulator...
20:17:04midknight2k3very
20:17:09PhantomDJPLOL
20:17:12midknight2k3hah
20:17:22PhantomDJPQuelsaruk what joker you are...
20:17:27Quelsarukummm
20:17:33midknight2k3What A joker you are
20:17:35PhantomDJPthe chip 8 could be a good thing to start :D
20:17:36Quelsarukmaybe it's not *really* a joke
20:17:47Quelsarukor maybe yes..
20:17:47PhantomDJP(sorry for the A)
20:17:50midknight2k3haha qulsaruk
20:17:55midknight2k3oops
20:18:01Quelsaruk:)
20:18:02midknight2k3np phanton
20:18:08PhantomDJPI m french :D
20:18:25PhantomDJPso sometimes...
20:18:26Lynx0when will the plugin loader appear in the official releases?
20:18:39midknight2k3uhm
20:18:43midknight2k3dailybuilds?
20:18:47midknight2k3always
20:18:47PhantomDJPnormaly it was for the 2.3
20:18:55midknight2k3that's what they planned
20:19:04midknight2k3but i suppose the went to work early :)
20:19:10PhantomDJPbut now...in the next :D
20:19:14midknight2k3next one is 2.1 i guess
20:19:29midknight2k3and that should be anytime within a decade :D
20:19:45PhantomDJPthe plug in loader was really important since lastest build was too big
20:19:52midknight2k3yeah
20:19:57PhantomDJPwere
20:20:00Quelsarukon february i heard something about a gameboy emulator..
20:20:08PhantomDJPthat is impossible
20:20:10midknight2k3now they can add more other stuff to rockbox while getting rid of the games and demos from build-in
20:20:11Lynx0no, i meant a bug-free official release, like 2.1
20:20:15PhantomDJPfully impossible
20:20:20midknight2k3in 2.1!
20:20:24midknight2k3how?
20:20:44midknight2k3how is it impossible
20:20:49Quelsaruk¿?
20:20:57PhantomDJPa gameboy emulator
20:21:06PhantomDJPit is impossible
20:21:14midknight2k3all right whatever you say
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20:21:16midknight2k3you know what
20:21:23PhantomDJPfirst :
20:21:28hardeepLynx0: official releases are rarely "bug-free"
20:21:30PhantomDJPscreen size
20:21:39midknight2k3right now i feel like learning how to code and making an emulator for gameboy to prove him WRONG.
20:21:45midknight2k3well
20:21:47PhantomDJPthen, not enougt CPU power
20:21:52midknight2k3the chip8 one had too small a screen too
20:21:56midknight2k3ALL RIGHT OKAY
20:21:59midknight2k3OKAY
20:22:01midknight2k3no more
20:22:03midknight2k3please?
20:22:04PhantomDJPthene not enought ram
20:22:06PhantomDJP:D
20:22:07midknight2k3shhhh!
20:22:10midknight2k3ok.
20:22:11PhantomDJPok I stop
20:22:16midknight2k3thank god
20:22:34Lynx0hardeep: well, i guess more so than the daily builds
20:22:51Quelsaruk:P
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20:28:32hardeepLynx0: perhaps... the daily builds have been pretty stable for quite some time
20:28:39midknight2k3heh
20:28:43midknight2k3he hleft
20:28:49hardeepoh, doh
20:28:59midknight2k3i agree though
20:29:16midknight2k3with all thats going on i cant see why people still use rockbox 1.4 and 2.0
20:34:02Quelsaruki always used bleeding edge
20:34:03Quelsaruk:)
20:34:08midknight2k3yeah
20:34:24Quelsaruksince the first day i knew about rockbox...
20:34:29midknight2k3even if you need a stable release
20:34:30Quelsaruknearly 1 year ago
20:34:34Quelsaruk:)
20:34:36midknight2k3why 1.4?
20:34:44Quelsarukpeople is strange...
20:34:54midknight2k3all these people on the mailing list: "im using rockbox 1.4 and my sound is crappy!"
20:34:55Quelsaruk..umm... are
20:34:58midknight2k3heh
20:35:15Quelsaruki understand using 2.0
20:35:29midknight2k3yeh
20:35:35midknight2k3but not 1.4
20:35:46Quelsarukif you are a disaster with computers and so on...
20:35:52Quelsarukbecause we have a manual for 2.0
20:35:55Quelsarukbut... 1.4??
20:35:56midknight2k3yes
20:35:59midknight2k3i know!
20:35:59Quelsarukwithout manual?
20:36:07Quelsarukthats weird
20:36:10midknight2k31.4 -> 2.0 is a biiiig step
20:36:13midknight2k3much more nice things
20:36:19midknight2k3but still
20:36:25midknight2k3i guess people disagree
20:36:30midknight2k3they like primitive rockbox
20:37:42Quelsaruki don't understand why
20:37:47midknight2k3neither i
20:37:58midknight2k3dont use the advanced features if you absolutely can't
20:38:01midknight2k3but still
20:38:02Quelsarukevery day rockbox is cooler and better
20:38:06midknight2k3yeah
20:38:16midknight2k31.4 is what like 9 months old
20:38:19Quelsarukhandles things in a better way
20:38:24midknight2k3AND
20:38:30midknight2k3they shall be forced to grab 2.1
20:38:31Quelsarukdelete some minor bugs...
20:38:32midknight2k3haha
20:38:41midknight2k3because plugin loader
20:38:48midknight2k3still some will say though "i dont want it!"
20:42:23Quelsarukthat's their problem
20:42:25Quelsaruk:)
20:42:39midknight2k3I "gu-ess"
20:43:20Quelsaruki really need rombox
20:43:25midknight2k3why?
20:43:37Quelsaruk...
20:43:39Quelsaruk:D
20:43:43midknight2k3lol
20:43:50Quelsaruksomething strange with my hd
20:44:19midknight2k3fmrec?
20:44:41midknight2k3fm recorder?
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20:45:06midknight2k3gr
20:45:07Quelsaruk:)
20:45:12midknight2k3heh
20:45:12Quelsarukwhat was i saying?
20:45:19midknight2k3do you have an fm recordeR?
20:45:22Quelsaruknop
20:45:24Quelsaruka recorder
20:45:27Quelsarukrecorder 6
20:45:27midknight2k3hd problems
20:45:31midknight2k3recorder
20:45:33midknight2k36?
20:45:35midknight2k36gb?
20:45:37Quelsaruke GB
20:45:40Quelsarukyups
20:45:43midknight2k3they make recorder 6 gb?
20:45:50midknight2k3wow
20:45:51Quelsarukthat was the original recorder
20:45:53midknight2k3whats wrong with it
20:46:20Quelsarukit can't spin up when pluged to any computer (phisical error)
20:46:32midknight2k3odd
20:46:37midknight2k3it must be years old too
20:46:39Quelsarukbut even if it sounds weird..
20:46:54Quelsarukit can spin up when i power my archos on
20:47:07midknight2k3if it dies get an fm recorder!
20:47:35Quelsarukand then i can play nearly every song (except those affected with the phisical error), record music...
20:47:38Quelsarukeverything
20:47:43midknight2k3very odd
20:47:47Quelsaruki know
20:47:49Quelsarukreally strange
20:48:25Quelsarukthe problem is that i don't have a rockbox firmware version on the disk...
20:48:35midknight2k3??
20:48:42Quelsarukso i have to use archos 1.15m firmware
20:48:43midknight2k3you don't?
20:48:50midknight2k3hahahahahah!
20:49:00midknight2k3you said you use bleeding edges
20:49:02Quelsaruki formated the disk.. and copied all my music
20:49:26Quelsarukand when finishing the restoration.. it died
20:49:42Quelsarukmidknight2k3: i said i *used* bleeding edge
20:49:42midknight2k3ODD
20:49:43midknight2k3very
20:49:46midknight2k3haha
20:49:49midknight2k3lol
20:49:59midknight2k3you cant try the plugin loder now?
20:50:00Quelsarukthat's why i NEED rombox
20:50:07midknight2k3unh
20:50:07Quelsaruki can't try anything
20:50:20midknight2k3if you cant put rombox on the archos how will you get it to work?
20:50:26Quelsaruki have a dead 30GB hd.. and an old 6 GB hd...
20:50:37midknight2k3dead 30gb?
20:50:38midknight2k3I want it!
20:50:43Quelsarukand nearly 25 GB of music
20:50:49midknight2k3you know what
20:50:54Quelsarukwhat?
20:51:02midknight2k3if it dies get an fm recorder
20:52:01Quelsaruki don't think so
20:52:05Quelsaruki love my recorder..
20:52:08Quelsarukmaybe a recorder 20
20:52:14Quelsaruki don't listen to the radio
20:52:15midknight2k3the fm recorder is the same
20:52:19midknight2k3its better
20:52:25Quelsaruklitium batts??
20:52:25midknight2k3and aboutt he same price
20:52:30Quelsarukno thanks...
20:52:30midknight2k3its lighter
20:52:34midknight2k3ok whatever
20:52:34Quelsarukumm
20:52:42Quelsarukmy music is all heavy metal..
20:52:48Quelsarukthe jukebox has to be heavy
20:52:49midknight2k3i got an idea
20:53:03midknight2k3my new review
20:53:05midknight2k3done last night
20:53:08midknight2k3on the fm recorde
20:53:10midknight2k3r
20:53:13Quelsarukanyway.. if it's heavy.. it's also a weapon :)
20:53:22midknight2k3lol
20:53:23midknight2k3http://www.epinions.com/content_104923762308
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20:53:59midknight2k3thu
20:54:01midknight2k3response yet?
20:54:33thunope
20:54:42midknight2k3emusic tards - sometime soon maybe!
20:56:01thuthey should have a phone # or somethign
20:56:07midknight2k3hahahha
20:56:09thuor one of those live online support chats
20:56:23midknight2k3did you ever...
20:56:33midknight2k3think that perhaps its just not workin with lin-ics?
20:57:13thuloool
20:57:15thucheck out the forums
20:57:18thuI'm not alone
20:57:19Quelsaruktime to go home
20:57:23midknight2k3aww
20:57:23thuhttp://msg.emusic.com/emusic/liststory/?topic_id=2209&month=200307&category_id=17012
20:57:25midknight2k3bye
20:57:40Quelsarukcu tomorrow
20:57:45midknight2k3bye
20:57:51midknight2k3fm recorder 4 life
20:57:53midknight2k3:D
20:58:08Quelsarukhehe
20:58:52Quelsaruki just need to get some money and buy a new 60GB hd
20:58:58midknight2k3lol
20:59:05midknight2k3al righty then
20:59:10Quelsarukand my recorder6 will rock again
20:59:12Quelsaruk;)
20:59:12thuhttp://msg.emusic.com/emusic/liststory/?topic_id=1680&month=200306
20:59:16midknight2k3yeah!
20:59:17midknight2k3wooo!
20:59:33Quelsarukuntil then.. i will steal my brother's recorder 20
20:59:35Quelsaruk:D
20:59:38midknight2k3:0
20:59:41midknight2k3dont you dare
20:59:48midknight2k3does he rockbox?
20:59:57Quelsarukuse rockbox?
20:59:59Quelsarukof course
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21:00:02midknight2k3AND YOU CAN'T HAHAHAHA
21:00:17midknight2k3hey
21:00:23midknight2k3can i have the 6gb one thats in there
21:00:26midknight2k3when you replace it?
21:00:31Quelsarukno way!
21:00:34midknight2k3??
21:00:35Quelsaruki use it
21:00:36Quelsaruk:)
21:00:37midknight2k3why nootttt
21:00:39midknight2k3for?
21:00:41midknight2k3its busted!
21:00:46Quelsaruknonono
21:00:51midknight2k3i thought...
21:00:51Quelsarukthe 3GB hd is busted
21:00:53Quelsaruk30
21:00:55midknight2k33gb?
21:00:56midknight2k3what ahhaa
21:00:59Quelsaruk30
21:01:02midknight2k3ok
21:01:04midknight2k3that one will do
21:01:07midknight2k3you can ship it to...
21:01:09midknight2k3lets see
21:01:20Quelsarukumm
21:01:22midknight2k3and you can pay for postage
21:01:26Quelsaruk:P
21:01:28midknight2k3you have my permission
21:01:34midknight2k3ship it to 13 maple street
21:02:08Quelsarukmy 30GB hd will leave my archos just when it can't even make some nasty noise while trying to spin up
21:02:17midknight2k3wait..
21:02:18midknight2k3wait
21:02:23midknight2k3you have a 30gb in the archos?
21:02:39Quelsaruk¬_¬
21:02:42midknight2k3wow
21:02:48midknight2k3how do you do that
21:02:50Quelsaruki will try to explain myself again..
21:02:51midknight2k3-_-
21:02:59midknight2k3lol
21:03:03midknight2k3thats the best face ever
21:03:05midknight2k3what you did
21:03:17Quelsarukthx
21:03:27Quelsaruki bought a recorder6 nearly 2 years ago
21:03:35Quelsarukwell... exactly
21:03:41midknight2k3lol
21:03:43Quelsarukin 4 days.. it will have 2 years
21:03:48midknight2k3yay
21:03:57Quelsarukone year ago i bought a 30GB hd
21:04:10Quelsarukdisassembled the jukebox and changed the drive
21:04:27Quelsaruk1 month ago.. maybe 2... this 30GB HD died...
21:04:31Quelsarukmore or less
21:05:00midknight2k3CRAP
21:05:05midknight2k3i shot the jellyfish
21:05:07Quelsaruki use the 6GB hd in a external case
21:05:07midknight2k3go on..
21:05:11midknight2k3yes
21:05:30Quelsarukand the 30 GB hd with all my music, on the jukebox, with archos 1.15m firmware
21:05:38midknight2k3aha
21:05:40Quelsarukand that's why i need rombox
21:05:42midknight2k3so uh
21:05:45midknight2k3but
21:05:53midknight2k3IF YOU CANT PLUG THE ARCHOS INTO THE COMPUTER
21:05:59midknight2k3HOW WILL ROMBOX DO IT'S MAGIC?
21:06:04Quelsaruk'cause i can use the 6GB hd but... that's to few music
21:06:10midknight2k3ah!
21:06:15midknight2k36gb to get it on there
21:06:19Quelsaruk;)
21:06:20midknight2k3then 30gb to stay
21:06:21midknight2k3aha
21:06:24midknight2k3smart you
21:06:25Quelsarukyes
21:06:26thuyaaay
21:06:28Quelsaruk:)
21:06:32thumy emusic dlm is working
21:06:32midknight2k3:DDDDDDD
21:06:35#>>"explain Quelsaruk" by Quelsaruk (~Swordmast@faerun.ugr.es)
21:06:35midknight2k3really
21:06:36midknight2k3haha
21:06:39thu@Q$#@#$ emusic and their crappy client
21:06:47midknight2k3coool
21:06:54thuthanks to the guys on the forums
21:06:55midknight2k3logbot: explain midknight2k3
21:06:55Quelsarukmidknight2k3: even logbot know me :)
21:06:59thuwho seem to be as unhappy as I am
21:07:01midknight2k3make him say what i am
21:07:11Quelsarukumm
21:07:15midknight2k3DO IT
21:07:17midknight2k3NOW!
21:07:25QuelsarukO_o
21:07:27>>>"explain midknight2k3" by midknight2k3 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com)
21:07:30midknight2k3WHAT
21:07:34*thu jumps up and down
21:07:39midknight2k3he says "shrug i dont know"
21:07:45midknight2k3how can i explain myself to him
21:08:02midknight2k3and wait
21:08:07Quelsaruksomeone with access has to add you in his database
21:08:14midknight2k3why does he answer for many people but i have to message him to make it say that
21:08:31midknight2k3you just say it in the open and i have to /msg logbot
21:08:55Quelsarukbecause i'm autorised
21:09:02midknight2k3how can i be?
21:09:09midknight2k3you dont even use rockbox!
21:09:12midknight2k3what a jip!
21:09:18Quelsarukgrrrrr
21:09:54Quelsarukstrange guys..
21:10:11midknight2k3but really
21:10:17midknight2k3you dont code and you dont use it.........
21:10:18midknight2k3do you/
21:19:07thuhmm it actually works fast
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21:19:56midknight2k3huh
21:19:59midknight2k3sound good
21:20:08midknight2k3bebackinaminuteorfive
21:24:15midknight2k3im back
21:24:19thuwb
21:24:19midknight2k3"wb", right?
21:24:21midknight2k3GRRRr
21:24:24midknight2k3GERR!!!!!!!!
21:24:27midknight2k3oh god.
21:24:33thu152M /morespace/muzica/emusic
21:24:40midknight2k3????????????????
21:24:43thumining emusic works according to plan
21:24:51thuI already have 152M of stuff
21:24:51midknight2k3yes
21:24:54midknight2k3neat
21:24:56midknight2k3very neat
21:27:36midknight2k3gr
21:28:28midknight2k3wanna see my fmrecorder review/
21:29:43thulol more of your rockbox/archos propaganda?
21:29:50midknight2k3sort of
21:29:51midknight2k3not really
21:30:05midknight2k3some blather about the fmrecorder's features - a review
21:30:25midknight2k3here
21:30:29midknight2k3i use tinyurl
21:30:29midknight2k3http://tinyurl.com/fyyc
21:32:26thuyah
21:34:34midknight2k3i have a pirated copy of premiere to install! up up and awayy!
21:36:06thuI'm on the phone with adobe
21:36:12midknight2k3what?
21:36:14midknight2k3SHUTUP
21:36:17midknight2k3nonono
21:36:20thuthey told me to ask for your address
21:36:22midknight2k3i didn't mean it
21:36:24midknight2k3uh
21:36:25thuwhere exactly in seattle?
21:36:29midknight2k3it's 13 maple street
21:36:31midknight2k3yeah
21:36:35midknight2k315 maple street
21:36:36midknight2k3arg
21:36:43midknight2k3i mean 13 maple ave
21:36:47midknight2k3uhh
21:36:50midknight2k313 maple stret
21:36:53midknight2k3steert
21:36:55midknight2k3STREET
21:36:57Lynx0Do you know who is responsible for the german language file?
21:37:01midknight2k3not i
21:37:07midknight2k3lots of people do it
21:37:25thuok.. they'll be there in 30 mins
21:37:32midknight2k3good
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21:42:45midknight2k3yoyyo
21:44:18midknight2k3premiere! cool
21:50:56midknight2k3hello?
21:51:04thuyah
21:51:10thuaren't they there yet?
21:51:22midknight2k3nope
21:51:30midknight2k3but if they do arrive i shall sy
21:51:31midknight2k3say
21:51:38midknight2k3"premiere is fscking gay"
21:51:48midknight2k3vegas 4 rocks
21:52:07midknight2k3vegas 4 is the ultimate video editor
21:52:11thuso they won't simply fine you
21:52:15thuthey'll also kick your ass
21:52:17midknight2k3oops
21:52:24midknight2k3its true though
21:52:28midknight2k3so the can't can they?
21:53:36***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
21:53:38midknight2k3premiere is nuts
21:53:46midknight2k3vegas is the ultra c00l
21:55:21Lynx0is there a way to load a config file into the editor?
21:55:29midknight2k3?
21:55:33midknight2k3editor?
21:55:37midknight2k3you mean edit it?
21:56:23thuDownloads Remaining in Trial: 1
21:56:35thustill time to cancel :P
21:56:36midknight2k3lol
21:56:45midknight2k3are you gonna?
21:56:51thunaah
21:56:57Lynx0umm, ok, i mean is there a way to save the current config to a file without typing in the name again?
21:57:00thumusic is good
21:57:28midknight2k3i dont think so
21:57:32midknight2k3just save it
21:57:44Lynx0ok
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22:06:40midknight2k3rombox working good?
22:06:43midknight2k3dragon?
22:06:50[IDC]DragonYes?
22:06:51_aLFhi
22:06:59midknight2k3is it coming along welhello
22:07:03midknight2k3oops lol
22:07:10midknight2k3is it coming along well?
22:07:13midknight2k3hello alf
22:07:18[IDC]DragonI'm working on the autostart-rolo right now.
22:07:26midknight2k3yay
22:08:30[IDC]DragonAny of the developers around, familiar with the USB driver?
22:08:41midknight2k3not i
22:11:39Lynx0what does it do?
22:12:12midknight2k3rombox?
22:13:01midknight2k3it puts rockbox on the flash chip in the archos to decrease loading times
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22:20:10[IDC]DragonHi Björn!
22:20:21midknight2k3just who he wanted to see
22:20:27Zagorhi
22:20:40[IDC]DragonI need a clean way to find out that USB is plugged during init()
22:20:40midknight2k3hello bj.. i cant do that o
22:20:41Zagorcongrats on your success
22:20:43midknight2k3hi Zagor
22:21:01Zagoroooh, that's tricky
22:21:25[IDC]DragonII've seen, since the USB thread is not ticking yet.
22:21:50Zagori know we used to check the bit and assume, since we're running, that the state of the bit means "usb disabled" :-)
22:22:03Zagorchecking the code...
22:22:49Zagoryeah, that's changed. see firmware/usb.c:230
22:23:22[IDC]DragonThere's usb_inserted(), but that only reports plugged after having been ticked 3 times and reporting that successfully to all threads.
22:24:05[IDC]DragonI need something I can query after usb_init() usb_start_monitoring().
22:24:16Zagorah, i see. you mean you want it from the current api.
22:24:56Zagorwell, break out the detection code from usb_tick() into a separate function, and export it
22:25:21[IDC]DragonDidn't dare that.
22:25:31Zagoryou have my blessing ;)
22:25:51[IDC]DragonAfter having messed up mpeg.c for the player a few days ago...
22:26:00Zagorhehe. we all make mistakes...
22:26:39Zagori recommend: bool usb_detect(void)
22:27:07[IDC]DragonOK, I'll start that. usb_inserted() should still report what's been told to the threads, right?
22:27:20Zagoryes, leave that unmodified
22:27:25[IDC]DragonShure.
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22:33:49tracktheripperevening room
22:33:51[IDC]DragonNext synchronous problem: adc_read() also returns values retrieved in the background, therefore is not available right away.
22:34:39tracktheripperhi zagor
22:35:01Zagoris there a problem starting the kernel before checking these things?
22:35:04Zagorhi track
22:35:15tracktheripperhow are ya dude?
22:35:26midknight2k3hey
22:35:44tracktheripperhi
22:35:51tracktheripperim just installing Soundforge now
22:36:05[IDC]DragonNo, the kernel is started. But the init function keeps on running, instead I would have to block it for a couple of ticks or be also asynchronous.
22:36:08midknight2k3i just installed premiere
22:36:10midknight2k3its' gay
22:36:13tracktheripper:-)
22:36:22midknight2k3vegas is much better
22:36:45tracktheripperIs the architecture of the Archos really "open ended" judging by the number of things it can do via plugins and Rockbox
22:37:12midknight2k3yeah
22:37:31midknight2k3if the cpu can handle it and the screen can display it it can basically do anything
22:37:35tracktheripperyou try doing all that on another MP3 device
22:37:39midknight2k3yeah
22:37:53tracktheripperok could it write basic .txt files via the built-in keyboard?
22:37:58midknight2k3yes
22:38:01midknight2k3i think
22:38:02midknight2k3lol
22:38:07midknight2k3im pretty sure
22:38:25Zagordragon: how many ticks are we talking about, roughly?
22:38:44tracktheripperZagor could the Archos write basic .txt files using the built-in keyboard?
22:38:55Zagortracktheripper: yes
22:39:15[IDC]DragonI think about two or so. But will main() get preempted?
22:39:27tracktheripper:-)
22:39:37Zagordragon: sure it will, if we call sleep() :-)
22:39:38tracktheripperlooking forward to see the plug-in for that :-)
22:40:19Zagortracktheripper: well, first someone has to write it
22:40:24tracktheripperyea i know
22:40:28midknight2k3you can track!
22:40:31tracktherippershow me the ropes and Ill write it
22:40:31tracktheripper:-)
22:41:10[IDC]DragonOK, i will exeriment with sleeping in init() to let the values settle. tick freq is 100Hz?
22:41:45Zagordragon: yes. use the HZ macro to specify fractions of a second instead of exact tick counts
22:42:10[IDC]DragonYeah, I've used that.
22:42:13Zagorok
22:43:21tracktheripperZagor can the FM recorder output data via its spdif like the normal Recorder?
22:44:06Zagori don't know
22:44:38tracktheripperi know the normal Recorder can
22:44:46Zagoryes
22:45:00thuand so it came to pass that I've confirmed my subscription
22:45:10midknight2k3yes! woohoo! go thu!
22:45:55[IDC]DragonI think there's a flaw in the USB detect debouncing.
22:46:23Zagortracktheripper: "The FM Recorder does have a digital in but no digital out." (Archos' own words)
22:46:48Zagorthu: subscription?
22:46:53thuZagor: emusic.com
22:46:58Zagorah
22:47:02[IDC]DragonThe tick function checks for the same state 3 times in a row, but the ADC tick updates only one channel per tick.
22:47:11Zagorhaha
22:48:04tracktheripperZagor where did those Archos words come from? their website? (if u can show me the link that will be handy
22:48:25Zagorno, a mail. http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-04/0790.shtml
22:50:00tracktheripperhang on
22:50:24tracktherippercheers
22:50:32tracktheripperI wonder why Zagor removed the Digital Out?
22:50:32midknight2k3SHEERS
22:50:43tracktherippersorry I wondered why Archos removed the Digital Out
22:50:47tracktheripperthats what I was meant to say
22:50:48tracktheripper:-)
22:50:53midknight2k3lol
22:50:58midknight2k3Sure..
22:51:03Zagorhehe
22:51:08midknight2k3i know why
22:51:09tracktherippersorry Zagor
22:51:15tracktheripperwhys that Midknight?
22:51:24midknight2k3so people wont use it to copy music, even without that HSCFSCMSOFF thing
22:51:36midknight2k3actually
22:51:43midknight2k3it's an easter egg submitted by me ahahah
22:51:47midknight2k3i stole if from you
22:52:15tracktherippermidknight2k3
22:52:49midknight2k3here
22:52:50midknight2k3http://eeggs.com/items/39454.html
22:52:55midknight2k3i submitted it as you can see
22:53:33tracktheripperperhaps the RIAA did find about it
22:53:34midknight2k3TADA!
22:53:37midknight2k3yes lol
22:53:55thudoes the archos have a digital in port?
22:53:56tracktheripperare you really sure that the RIAA found about it?
22:54:07midknight2k3no
22:54:15midknight2k3the recorder does
22:54:21midknight2k3i think the fm recorder doesnt
22:54:24thuwhat recorder?
22:54:29thuoh ok
22:54:29midknight2k3recorder 20
22:54:41midknight2k3but uh, i dont know track
22:54:48midknight2k3they probably found out cause i submitted that ;)
22:56:11tracktherippergrrrrrrrrrrr
22:56:33midknight2k3youre getting an fm recorder?
22:57:00midknight2k3if not, why does it matter then?
22:59:10tracktheripperWhy oh why oh why did Archos put the headphone output on the SIDE of the FM recorder?!
22:59:19midknight2k3o dont know
22:59:25midknight2k3are you getting one?
22:59:26midknight2k3or what
22:59:44tracktheripperwas considering getting one
22:59:54tracktheripperbut the headphone port on the side SUCKS
22:59:58thugood question
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23:01:00midknight2k3you were?
23:01:04midknight2k3want info on it?
23:01:07midknight2k3i jsut wrote a review last night
23:01:13tracktherippersure
23:01:29midknight2k3TADA
23:01:30midknight2k3http://www.epinions.com/content_104923762308
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23:08:11tracktherippervery good midknight
23:08:16midknight2k3ty
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23:15:59[IDC]DragonZagor, I found that I don't need to sleep, the time waiting for the HD was plenty enough.
23:16:29Zagorexcellent. so you don't need to change the usb code then?
23:16:42midknight2k3haha
23:16:48midknight2k3you come back to the main room when he leaves
23:17:06Zagormidknight2k3: who?
23:17:12[IDC]DragonI still do. usb_inserted() is somehow not operational yet.
23:17:14midknight2k3tracktheripper
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23:18:27devZer0good evening guys
23:18:42midknight2k3hello
23:20:01Zagordragon: hmmm, odd
23:20:03devZer0is it bad weather in the world - things seem to move faster regarding rockbox :) you`re all back from your holidays with new energy?
23:20:39ZagordevZer0: hehe. i just had a fit of productivity this weekend, so i wrote the plugin loader
23:20:52devZer0me too :)
23:21:21[IDC]DragonZagor: I guess usb_inserted() only tells that if the USB screen is actually open.
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23:22:07devZer0if everybody was like you, rockbox would be finished within the next week :)
23:22:08[IDC]DragonMy productivity was starting from flash, as you probably know.
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23:22:24Zagordragon: ah, right. it reports that all threads has acked the usb message, and we can switch off the ata controller
23:22:28devZer0idc: coooool thing! unbelievable - this is true hackerism :)
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23:24:06[IDC]DragonZagor: I need this whole business since I want to auto-rolo on coldstart only if USB is not plugged. Otherwise you have no chance to go inbetween if arbrec.ajz is bad.
23:24:35[IDC]DragonLocked out by just a bad file, not desireable.
23:24:40Zagoryes, i understand
23:25:28[IDC]DragonThe code is working now, but my early roloing crashes.
23:28:29[IDC]DragonAhh, now it works.
23:29:18[IDC]DragonUsing Rockbox in flash as just a loader is not such a good idea, the loading and descrambling takes relatively long.
23:29:34[IDC]DragonBetter flash the firmware you'd like to use.
23:29:46Zagoryes
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23:29:54midknight2k3uh oh
23:29:57midknight2k3run!
23:30:00tracktheripper:-(
23:30:04midknight2k3:)
23:30:06midknight2k3it was a joke
23:30:16*tracktheripper is very upset :-(
23:30:22devZer0heyyy
23:30:27devZer0come on!
23:30:31*midknight2k3 is very sorry
23:30:41*midknight2k3 is verrry verry very sorry
23:30:44[IDC]DragonOtherwise it takes more than twice as long to boot.
23:31:26tracktheripperok i forgive u
23:31:26tracktheripper:)
23:31:36midknight2k3thank you
23:31:39midknight2k3im sorry
23:31:43_aLFdragon> even if there isn't to rolo a firmware ?
23:31:43[IDC]DragonMaybe we can extend the ajz format to be optionally unscrambled?
23:31:57devZer0idc: regarding flashing: who is this being done? do i need to have to build the serial mod?
23:32:19[IDC]DragonaLF: If no firmware is found, then we're about as quick as before.
23:32:27Zagordragon: sure. we can just use a new format.
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23:33:29[IDC]DragonNew format like as having a new filename/extension? I don't like this, because I'd have to look for 2 files.
23:34:13[IDC]DragonRather an unused bit in the ajz header, if there is. Preferably some bit that also prevents the original firmware from loading it.
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23:38:07tracktherippermidknight u still there?
23:38:11midknight2k3yes
23:38:12midknight2k3always
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23:40:34Zagorwhy not look for two files? it takes very very little extra time, and 99% of users will use the uncompressed version anyway
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23:47:07[IDC]DragonZagor: very little time is what we don't have ;-)
23:47:45diddystar5_hey idc: the flash would save some power right? since there would be more buffer for mp3 data
23:48:00MTno
23:48:05midknight2k3boo
23:48:07midknight2k3mt
23:48:10midknight2k3wormlet patch done
23:48:14MTno
23:48:30MTwormlet patch isnt going to pay for my holiday
23:48:31MTso
23:48:34MT..
23:48:39midknight2k3aww man!
23:49:57diddystar5_huh?
23:50:11midknight2k3nuttin
23:50:15midknight2k3his wormlet patch
23:50:32diddystar5_what does it change?
23:50:52midknight2k3you can set argh size, argh density, worm speed, points per food, etc
23:51:39diddystar5_ooo sounds cool :)
23:51:45midknight2k3it is
23:51:51midknight2k3you have fm recorder??
23:52:04diddystar5_no a plain old recorder
23:52:37diddystar5_could ya send me the patch?
23:52:47midknight2k3ahh i only have it for fm recorder
23:52:52midknight2k3it's his patch anywyas
23:53:10diddystar5_thats ok i can build it on the simulator
23:53:17midknight2k3if it's ok with mt
23:53:33diddystar5_Mr. MT please!
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23:53:41[IDC]DragonZagor, we don't happen to have a "charging" screen?
23:54:15Zagorno, we charge during normal activity
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23:54:28midknight2k3MT
23:54:29midknight2k3PLEASE
23:54:32midknight2k3he wants a copu
23:54:33midknight2k3copy
23:55:13[IDC]DragonSo what behaviour is desired if the box is off and somebody plugs the charger in?
23:55:26Zagorpower up and start as normal, imho
23:55:45Zagorperhaps bypassing the resume question, if any
23:56:03[IDC]DragonI was about to ask that.
23:56:09_aLF(yes in my opinion, I don't like the charging screen on archos firmware)
23:56:39[IDC]DragonSo you'd like the disk to spinup and the box to show the browser?
23:56:42midknight2k3hey
23:56:50midknight2k3who wants to see the best feature request ever
23:56:53Zagoryes
23:57:00midknight2k3http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=689196&group_id=44306&atid=439121
23:57:33MTill do the patch later
23:57:42MTits not exactly critical is it? a new worm game?!
23:57:43midknight2k3but
23:57:47midknight2k3he wants it
23:57:49midknight2k3it's very cool
23:57:58midknight2k3dont you want to make a fan happy
23:58:35[IDC]DragonAnother quirk with the firmware in flash and the charger is that I can't power off while the charger is plugged. Also desireable?
23:58:35Zagormidknight2k3: don't beg, it's not polite
23:58:42midknight2k3i wasn't
23:58:46midknight2k3im sorry though
23:58:57Zagordragon: yes it is

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