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| 00:39:34 | diddystar5 | hardeep: ya there? |
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| 00:41:39 | ironi | hello |
| 00:42:12 | diddystar5 | hey |
| 00:43:05 | ironi | how much is a jb6000 worth nowadays |
| 00:43:09 | ironi | thinking of selling mine |
| 00:43:38 | diddystar5 | not much |
| 00:43:58 | diddystar5 | you should get a recorder they are alot better |
| 00:43:59 | ironi | it has stopped charging batteries |
| 00:44:13 | ironi | so i have an GP charger |
| 00:44:26 | ironi | thought of selling it witht he charger and double sets of batteries |
| 00:44:37 | ironi | is $70 expecting too much? |
| 00:44:51 | ironi | actually i'd be satisfied with $60 |
| 00:45:02 | diddystar5 | sounds about right |
| 00:46:22 | tracktheripper | hello |
| 00:46:59 | diddystar5 | hey track |
| 00:50:34 | tracktheripper | hello diddstar |
| 00:50:35 | tracktheripper | whats up? |
| 00:50:48 | diddystar5 | hey track, are you a good programer? |
| 00:51:54 | tracktheripper | no |
| 00:51:57 | tracktheripper | i cannot program |
| 00:52:05 | tracktheripper | im an admirer here more than anything else |
| 00:52:08 | tracktheripper | and I have a recorder 10 |
| 00:53:17 | diddystar5 | never mind I need to talk to someone that is a pro at it right now like HARDEEP |
| 00:54:47 | tracktheripper | well no-one is here |
| 00:54:49 | tracktheripper | what JB do u have? |
| 00:55:09 | diddystar5 | r20 |
| 00:55:37 | diddystar5 | i started with a jb5k then returned it |
| 00:55:59 | tracktheripper | oh right |
| 00:56:03 | tracktheripper | what was the player like? |
| 00:56:09 | diddystar5 | sad |
| 00:56:25 | diddystar5 | the recorder is so much better |
| 00:57:48 | diddystar5 | gotta go |
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| 00:58:37 | ironi | yeah the player is not much of value |
| 00:58:47 | ironi | but it has given me lot of fun |
| 00:59:16 | ironi | i will get an ipod now though, for size reasons only (and i get it for a very good price :) |
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| 01:01:51 | tracktheripper | ironi do u still have ur player? |
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| 01:11:01 | diddystar5 | hardeep: please talk to me :) |
| 01:11:02 | hardeep | diddystar5: here, what's up? |
| 01:11:16 | diddystar5 | thanks |
| 01:11:28 | diddystar5 | the clock in bouncer dosen't work! |
| 01:11:55 | hardeep | diddystar5: bouncer? as in the bounce demo? |
| 01:12:08 | diddystar5 | yep |
| 01:12:28 | hardeep | it used to have a clock? |
| 01:12:48 | diddystar5 | before it became a plugin yes |
| 01:14:14 | ironi | i do... |
| 01:15:39 | ironi | sounded like i was the only one in the world still owning a player =) |
| 01:16:44 | hardeep | diddystar5: looks like it was intentionally removed by Zagor when he converted it to a plugin... he'd be the one to ask |
| 01:18:06 | diddystar5 | i don't know in bounce.c, the code for the clock is still there |
| 01:19:17 | diddystar5 | never mind it looks like your right, the clock is defined but never used |
| 01:19:18 | hardeep | diddystar5: yes, but it's been #ifdef'd out (USE_CLOCK) |
| 01:20:08 | diddystar5 | should have looked before i yelled :) |
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| 03:41:20 | Neo | hey guys |
| 03:41:25 | Neo | reading on the requests |
| 03:41:34 | Neo | and there is the chip8 emulator |
| 03:42:33 | Neo | how do i install a patch |
| 03:42:38 | Neo | and where do i download it |
| 03:45:06 | thu | my suggestion would be to wait until it sneaks its way into a nightly build |
| 03:45:17 | thu | to use a patch you have to compile your own rockbox |
| 03:46:33 | Neo | o |
| 03:46:36 | Neo | complicated? |
| 03:46:56 | thu | requires more work than just dragging a file to your jukebox |
| 03:47:00 | Neo | yeh |
| 03:47:06 | Neo | but how do i download a patch |
| 03:47:14 | Neo | the one i want is under patches |
| 03:47:16 | thu | like any file |
| 03:47:43 | thu | patch = set of modifications to the rockbox source code |
| 03:47:56 | Neo | ye |
| 03:48:02 | Neo | how do i get the modifications |
| 03:48:06 | Neo | or the patch |
| 03:48:08 | thu | you can't use a patch w/out compiling your own rockbox |
| 03:48:17 | Neo | how |
| 03:48:23 | thu | read the site |
| 03:48:26 | thu | under docs |
| 03:48:31 | Neo | ok |
| 03:48:33 | Neo | i will tomorrow |
| 03:48:40 | Neo | u gona be here in the morning |
| 03:48:49 | thu | probably not |
| 03:48:52 | Neo | o |
| 03:48:56 | Neo | someone else can help me |
| 03:48:56 | Neo | thanks |
| 03:48:57 | Neo | bye |
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| 06:33:36 | adi|home | i _love_ questions from ppl to lazy/stupid to read the directions for themselves |
| 06:35:53 | thu | I don't cuz I sometimes ask stupid questions myself |
| 06:35:59 | thu | but I usually take the hints and go rtfm |
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| 09:20:30 | ironi | there is not gonna be more development on the rockbox for the player, is ti? |
| 09:20:32 | ironi | it |
| 09:24:06 | tracktheripper | i doubt it |
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| 14:47:39 | Quelsaruk | time to go |
| 14:47:40 | Quelsaruk | cu! |
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| 15:31:06 | Neo | hey |
| 15:31:10 | Neo | how do i apply a patch i |
| 15:31:12 | Neo | i have it |
| 15:38:30 | Neo | anyone? |
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| 15:44:12 | eXus | hi |
| 15:44:23 | Neo | hi |
| 15:44:28 | Neo | i have the diff |
| 15:44:29 | Neo | the patch |
| 15:44:33 | Neo | how do i install it now |
| 15:44:45 | eXus | sorry; don't know... |
| 15:44:57 | Neo | no |
| 15:44:59 | Neo | ugg |
| 15:45:05 | Neo | thanks anyway |
| 15:45:09 | eXus | np... |
| 15:45:18 | eXus | anybody there got a FM recorder ? |
| 15:45:26 | eXus | or know the specs of the charger ? |
| 15:46:08 | eXus | or knows any other Archos products related IRC ? |
| 15:46:42 | Neo | i have an archos recorder |
| 15:46:44 | Neo | not fm |
| 15:46:51 | Neo | ive heard the fm tuner isnt that good |
| 15:46:57 | eXus | it's really good... |
| 15:47:02 | Neo | o |
| 15:47:04 | eXus | even if it doesn't work for me ;) |
| 15:47:07 | Neo | ok |
| 15:47:12 | Neo | no |
| 15:47:19 | Neo | it tuning into radio stations isnt clear |
| 15:47:26 | Neo | the product itself is probably good |
| 15:47:30 | eXus | I'm in France, so it won't matter there |
| 15:47:33 | Neo | all archos products are good |
| 15:47:34 | Neo | ;) |
| 15:47:38 | eXus | :) |
| 15:47:57 | eXus | just before it died, I tried to hear at some radio stations.... |
| 15:48:00 | eXus | worked great |
| 15:48:16 | eXus | (it's not dead, it's just... hmmm... sleeping) |
| 15:48:48 | eXus | seems like they gave me the wrong charger... they gave me the same as u'r |
| 15:49:02 | eXus | v u the specs ? |
| 15:49:11 | Neo | 1 sec |
| 15:49:14 | Neo | leme see |
| 15:49:14 | eXus | k |
| 15:49:41 | Neo | input: 120v av 60 hz |
| 15:49:52 | Neo | output: 9v dc 600mA |
| 15:49:55 | eXus | LOL |
| 15:50:04 | eXus | ok; they're almost stupid.... |
| 15:50:21 | eXus | now the charger they gave me is dead, and my player has it's batteries down |
| 15:50:37 | Neo | that sucks |
| 15:50:38 | Neo | i gtg |
| 15:50:40 | eXus | in fact I believe it should be a 5V 1200mA for me ! |
| 15:50:42 | eXus | ok |
| 15:50:44 | eXus | bye |
| 15:50:51 | Neo | email me if u find out about the plugins |
| 15:50:56 | eXus | ok |
| 15:50:59 | Neo | rubberdukkie52@aol.com |
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| 17:14:57 | Neo | do i haveto install rockbox-daily.tar.gz |
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| 18:07:47 | Neo | hey |
| 18:09:05 | diddystar5 | Neo: hey |
| 18:11:15 | Neo | does anyone know how to install a diff patch |
| 18:11:16 | Neo | or plugin |
| 18:11:58 | diddystar5 | use the command patch < (name).diff |
| 18:12:35 | diddystar5 | this explains alot http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/patch.html |
| 18:13:11 | Neo | wyeh |
| 18:13:15 | Neo | thats confusing to me |
| 18:13:19 | Neo | whree do i type in a patch |
| 18:13:29 | Neo | where do i get the command patch |
| 18:13:40 | diddystar5 | do you have cygwin? |
| 18:13:55 | Neo | no |
| 18:13:58 | Neo | whre do i get that |
| 18:14:28 | diddystar5 | ok one sec |
| 18:14:33 | Neo | :) |
| 18:15:14 | diddystar5 | http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/win32-sdk.html read that |
| 18:16:06 | Neo | ok |
| 18:16:12 | Neo | stay on just incase i need some help |
| 18:16:22 | diddystar5 | ok |
| 18:18:30 | MT | patches are for developers really |
| 18:18:39 | MT | they arent meant for users to apply themselves |
| 18:19:09 | diddystar5 | im not a *good* developer but i learned to use patches! |
| 18:19:31 | Neo | yeh |
| 18:19:35 | Neo | its confusing |
| 18:19:44 | Neo | i just want my archos to run the chip 8 emulator |
| 18:19:46 | Neo | u kno? |
| 18:20:02 | MT | hah |
| 18:20:04 | MT | ye |
| 18:20:07 | diddystar5 | o trust me your not missing much with the chip 8 thingy |
| 18:20:07 | MT | yes |
| 18:20:11 | Neo | do u have it |
| 18:20:15 | Neo | o really? |
| 18:20:15 | Neo | why |
| 18:20:21 | MT | funnily enough its the most common thing people ask for |
| 18:20:23 | MT | guess what |
| 18:20:32 | MT | theres a reason its not in the main firmware |
| 18:20:37 | MT | its not very good. |
| 18:20:38 | Neo | why |
| 18:20:42 | MT | at all. |
| 18:20:42 | Neo | how |
| 18:20:49 | diddystar5 | many games don't work very well and the rest are just kinda boring except space invaders |
| 18:21:01 | Neo | well id like to have the option |
| 18:21:09 | Neo | any way i could get other games? |
| 18:21:15 | MT | sure |
| 18:21:18 | Neo | how |
| 18:21:19 | MT | do you know much C? |
| 18:21:24 | Neo | nope |
| 18:21:30 | Neo | cant i download |
| 18:21:54 | Neo | and install more games |
| 18:22:20 | diddystar5 | hey MT do ya have that wormlet patch done? |
| 18:22:28 | MT | if someone writes one, yes |
| 18:22:32 | MT | no diddystar5 |
| 18:22:39 | MT | im going on holiday on friday you see |
| 18:22:52 | diddystar5 | ok |
| 18:22:56 | MT | and i ahve <−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−> that much work to finish by friday morning |
| 18:23:03 | MT | well |
| 18:23:08 | MT | 'a lot' of work |
| 18:23:08 | MT | :/ |
| 18:23:14 | diddystar5 | o don't hurry yourself :) |
| 18:23:32 | Neo | what does this mean |
| 18:23:33 | Neo | cd c:\cygwin |
| 18:23:33 | Neo | bzip2.exe -d rockbox-sdk_win32.tar.bz2 |
| 18:23:33 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Neo |
| 18:23:33 | Neo | tar xvf rockbox-sdk_win32.tar |
| 18:23:45 | MT | you've got an ordinary recorder yeah? |
| 18:24:09 | MT | seriously, if you didnt get that, id worry about applying patches :) |
| 18:24:18 | Neo | recorder 20 |
| 18:24:22 | Neo | ok |
| 18:24:31 | Neo | i just wana learn it |
| 18:24:40 | MT | sure |
| 18:24:44 | diddystar5 | hehe me to neo do you have one of the black ones? |
| 18:24:48 | MT | those are commands that you type in on the command line |
| 18:25:03 | MT | i could do you an old build of it diddystar if you like |
| 18:25:34 | Neo | no |
| 18:25:35 | Neo | blue |
| 18:26:16 | diddystar5 | sure MT |
| 18:27:27 | diddystar5 | Neo: what version of windows do you have? |
| 18:27:37 | Neo | xp pro |
| 18:27:39 | Neo | sp2 |
| 18:27:49 | Neo | cant u just build one for me |
| 18:27:54 | Neo | and tell me how to install the patch |
| 18:28:46 | diddystar5 | to open a command line, go to start-all programs-accesories-command prompt |
| 18:29:02 | Neo | or cmd on run |
| 18:29:05 | Neo | yeh |
| 18:29:07 | Neo | then waht to i do |
| 18:29:40 | diddystar5 | type you commands like "cd" |
| 18:29:41 | Neo | ? |
| 18:31:28 | diddystar5 | ya got it now? |
| 18:31:56 | MT | diddystar5: mt.staff.impulsed.net/rockbox/">http://mt.staff.impulsed.net/rockbox/ |
| 18:32:07 | MT | its _very_ old cvs its built with tho |
| 18:32:22 | Neo | cd? |
| 18:32:31 | MT | and i may have actually nuked the changes, not sure ;) |
| 18:32:36 | Neo | whats the fill command |
| 18:32:39 | Neo | *full |
| 18:32:41 | Neo | ;) |
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| 18:32:57 | MT | http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/win32-sdk.html explains it |
| 18:33:36 | diddystar5 | MT: thanks for the builds |
| 18:33:53 | MT | np |
| 18:36:17 | Neo | i type in this |
| 18:36:18 | Neo | cd c:\cygwin |
| 18:36:18 | Neo | bzip2.exe -d rockbox-sdk_win32.tar.bz2 |
| 18:36:18 | Neo | tar xvf rockbox-sdk_win32.tar |
| 18:36:19 | Neo | ? |
| 18:37:28 | MT | assuming you have done steps 1, 2 and 3 first, yes |
| 18:38:05 | Neo | ok |
| 18:38:08 | Neo | then what will come out |
| 18:38:35 | diddystar5 | should |
| 18:39:21 | MT | a lot of text should fly past when you do the last command |
| 18:39:27 | Neo | yeh |
| 18:40:09 | Neo | how do i do an enter in the command promt |
| 18:40:23 | MT | umm |
| 18:40:26 | Neo | without it processing the first line |
| 18:40:36 | MT | you do each one in turn |
| 18:40:42 | Neo | yeh |
| 18:41:31 | Neo | well |
| 18:41:36 | Neo | it sais input file doenst exist |
| 18:42:01 | MT | im guessing you didnt follow step 2 then |
| 18:42:39 | Neo | i put the rockbox-sdk_win32.tar.bz2 in my c:\cygwin |
| 18:42:47 | Neo | then i typed |
| 18:42:53 | Neo | bzip2.exe -d rockbox-sdk_win32.tar.bz2 |
| 18:42:57 | Neo | but it said it doenst exist |
| 18:43:15 | MT | what directory are you in |
| 18:43:25 | Neo | c:\cygwin |
| 18:43:29 | Neo | i think its named wrong |
| 18:43:30 | Neo | my bad |
| 18:43:33 | Neo | leme try again |
| 18:44:33 | Neo | :0 |
| 18:44:37 | Neo | worked |
| 18:44:55 | Neo | not text |
| 18:45:09 | Neo | but it made my rockbox-sdk_win32.tar.bz2 20 megs |
| 18:45:12 | Neo | does that mean it worked? |
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| 18:45:25 | MT | do the next command |
| 18:46:06 | diddystar5 | ya getting there neo! |
| 18:46:11 | Neo | then comes lost of text |
| 18:46:13 | Neo | :) |
| 18:46:20 | Neo | ok |
| 18:46:21 | Neo | done |
| 18:46:22 | Neo | now what |
| 18:46:30 | MT | move to step 5 |
| 18:47:20 | Neo | ive already done that |
| 18:47:23 | Neo | should i do it again? |
| 18:48:06 | MT | go to step 6 |
| 18:48:19 | Neo | ok |
| 18:48:24 | Neo | its at the prompt |
| 18:48:28 | Neo | and i have that file |
| 18:48:36 | Neo | now do i type in the stuff down there? |
| 18:49:39 | Neo | or what |
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| 18:50:08 | Neo | where do i put rockbox-tools.tar.bz2 |
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| 18:54:44 | diddystar5 | Neo: i have a chip8 build for you but you *must* not send this to anyone else ok? |
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| 19:00:16 | Neo | yes |
| 19:00:17 | Neo | ok |
| 19:00:21 | Neo | i wont |
| 19:00:30 | Neo | do u wana send it through here |
| 19:00:31 | Neo | or email |
| 19:00:38 | diddystar5 | ok whats your email? |
| 19:00:44 | Neo | my email is rubberdukkie52@aol.com |
| 19:01:06 | Neo | thanks |
| 19:01:12 | Neo | tell me wen to check it |
| 19:03:37 | diddystar5 | it should be sent now |
| 19:03:40 | Neo | ok |
| 19:03:47 | Neo | what is it and what do i do with it |
| 19:04:30 | diddystar5 | just unzip it paste ajbrec.ajz to your ajb and copy to games to your drive |
| 19:04:44 | Neo | but what about future daily builds |
| 19:04:55 | diddystar5 | to play the games just "play" them like songs |
| 19:04:59 | Neo | yeh |
| 19:05:08 | Neo | but wont it replace my ajbrec.ajz now? |
| 19:05:26 | diddystar5 | yes you can just rename that one |
| 19:05:30 | Neo | yeh |
| 19:05:37 | Neo | but wont it boot to the new one |
| 19:05:50 | Neo | and tehn future ajbrecs that come out |
| 19:06:22 | diddystar5 | ooo just name is to chip8.ajz and rolo to it |
| 19:06:30 | Neo | rolo? |
| 19:07:44 | Neo | ? |
| 19:07:46 | diddystar5 | yep just press play on chip8.ajz (make sure you can see all files and folders: F2 and down til it says "all") |
| 19:09:11 | Neo | o |
| 19:09:15 | Neo | gotcha |
| 19:09:19 | Neo | thanks |
| 19:09:21 | Neo | brb |
| 19:09:25 | diddystar5 | ok |
| 19:10:20 | | Quit diddystar5 ("Gotta go cya") |
| 19:11:09 | Neo | do i need to copy those rocks? |
| 19:42:29 | Neo | hey |
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| 19:43:23 | Neo | hey |
| 19:43:25 | Quelsaruk | hi |
| 19:43:28 | Quelsaruk | i need linus!! |
| 19:43:31 | Quelsaruk | or zagor |
| 19:44:25 | Neo | yeh |
| 19:44:30 | Neo | same here |
| 19:44:44 | Neo | have u done anything with the chip8 emulator |
| 19:50:16 | Quelsaruk | nops |
| 19:50:39 | Quelsaruk | i have rockbox on flash and have detected a quite serious problem with ata driver :) |
| 19:50:54 | Quelsaruk | i'm a rat lab.. or a really crazy guy |
| 19:51:38 | Neo | rockbox on flash? |
| 19:51:56 | Quelsaruk | yups |
| 19:52:02 | Quelsaruk | just a test |
| 19:52:34 | Quelsaruk | but it needs a bit more time to be perfect for everyone |
| 19:52:49 | Quelsaruk | just works perfectly on certain jukeboxes |
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| 19:55:39 | Neo | what do u mean flash |
| 19:57:20 | Quelsaruk | rockbox on rom |
| 19:57:27 | Neo | o |
| 19:57:34 | Neo | can u make patches? |
| 19:57:41 | Quelsaruk | not right now |
| 19:57:49 | Quelsaruk | maybe later... |
| 19:58:00 | Quelsaruk | (i have to change to linux for that) |
| 19:59:09 | Neo | o |
| 19:59:15 | Neo | is it easy in linux? |
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| 20:01:34 | Neo | hey |
| 20:01:34 | Neo | alf |
| 20:01:37 | Neo | can u make patches |
| 20:02:06 | _aLF | hi |
| 20:02:08 | _aLF | ? |
| 20:02:10 | adi|home | neo.. what are you looking for/ |
| 20:02:12 | adi|home | ? |
| 20:02:14 | Neo | well |
| 20:02:29 | Neo | the word wrap for viewing text |
| 20:02:32 | Neo | u know? |
| 20:02:49 | adi|home | what about it |
| 20:03:46 | Neo | do u have na already built patch |
| 20:03:50 | Neo | *an |
| 20:04:07 | adi|home | okay.. we don't do 'already built patches' |
| 20:04:17 | adi|home | patches are intended for developers to play with.. |
| 20:04:21 | adi|home | but if you want one.. |
| 20:04:29 | Neo | yeh? |
| 20:04:36 | adi|home | or to try other patches... |
| 20:04:48 | adi|home | follow the docs on building a cross compiler, then build rockbox yourself... |
| 20:04:55 | Neo | yeh |
| 20:04:58 | Neo | i cant do that |
| 20:05:02 | Neo | i got to step 5 |
| 20:05:04 | Neo | then no more |
| 20:05:10 | Neo | can u build one for me? |
| 20:05:54 | Quelsaruk | adi, do you understand *panic* messages?? |
| 20:05:55 | Quelsaruk | ;) |
| 20:06:04 | Neo | no |
| 20:06:08 | Neo | dont know what they are |
| 20:06:10 | adi|home | quelsaruk .. not to much about them... |
| 20:06:19 | Neo | and i need the calinder and memos |
| 20:06:19 | adi|home | but i can try and help if you want ;) |
| 20:06:20 | Neo | ;) |
| 20:06:35 | adi|home | neo.. no one is going to build it for you... |
| 20:06:47 | adi|home | give you a fish.. you eat for a night.. teach you to fish, you eat for a life time |
| 20:07:01 | adi|home | what was this 'step 5' you go to... |
| 20:07:01 | Neo | haha |
| 20:07:05 | Neo | yeh |
| 20:07:07 | Neo | ok |
| 20:07:08 | adi|home | got to rather |
| 20:07:21 | Neo | well, im no sure how becasue each patch is a differnt file |
| 20:07:33 | adi|home | have you read the patches doc? |
| 20:07:37 | Neo | if you could teach me how to make th calender/memo |
| 20:07:39 | Neo | yeh |
| 20:07:51 | Neo | could u teach me now |
| 20:07:56 | Quelsaruk | adi|home: i get *PANIC* ATA -1 |
| 20:08:21 | Quelsaruk | it's a strange problem, i just get it using RomBox |
| 20:08:33 | adi|home | ahh.. that i cant help ya... |
| 20:08:43 | adi|home | i have no experiance with the flash branch |
| 20:08:46 | Quelsaruk | i've just mailed idc-dragon to tell him, but... i'd like to talk with zagor or linusn |
| 20:08:55 | adi|home | neo.. you don't learn how to work a specific patch.. |
| 20:09:01 | Quelsaruk | it's ant ata error.. something with the drive |
| 20:09:06 | adi|home | you have the source tree as a whole... |
| 20:09:17 | adi|home | and the patches are chunks of code that ppl wnat to add... |
| 20:09:36 | adi|home | you need to add that code using the 'patch' command as per the doc |
| 20:09:43 | Neo | patch command? |
| 20:09:56 | adi|home | in other words you didn't read the doc neo ;) |
| 20:10:08 | Neo | on the site? |
| 20:10:16 | adi|home | nods |
| 20:10:28 | Neo | i read that |
| 20:10:28 | adi|home | neo... have you built rockbox w/o any patches yet? |
| 20:10:46 | Neo | someone built one for me with the chip8 emulator |
| 20:10:51 | Neo | but i dont know how to myself |
| 20:10:57 | adi|home | well... |
| 20:11:01 | Neo | so i do have the chip 8 emulator |
| 20:11:04 | adi|home | you have 3 choices.. |
| 20:11:22 | adi|home | 1. learn how to do this all on your own and add patches/test code whenever you want |
| 20:11:34 | adi|home | 2. keep relying on the random acts of strangers |
| 20:11:54 | adi|home | 3. wait for the patches to get integrated into the main tree (if/when) happens. |
| 20:12:04 | Neo | yeh |
| 20:12:06 | Neo | id like one |
| 20:12:13 | adi|home | okay.. |
| 20:12:14 | Neo | can u briefly explain how to do this |
| 20:12:19 | adi|home | so.. are you on linux or windows? |
| 20:12:23 | Neo | because the other dox confused me |
| 20:12:24 | Neo | mostly |
| 20:12:30 | adi|home | no.. i can't.. but i can point youto the docs that will teach you |
| 20:12:31 | Neo | windows |
| 20:12:35 | Neo | ok |
| 20:12:42 | Neo | email me the docs at rubberdukkie52@aol.com |
| 20:12:43 | adi|home | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/firsttime.html |
| 20:12:43 | Neo | i gtg |
| 20:12:50 | adi|home | no.. no emailing.. |
| 20:12:52 | Neo | why? |
| 20:12:53 | adi|home | you read on your own |
| 20:12:55 | Neo | no |
| 20:12:57 | adi|home | you have to put the time |
| 20:12:58 | Neo | email me the links |
| 20:13:00 | Neo | ok? |
| 20:13:04 | adi|home | nope ;) |
| 20:13:07 | adi|home | read the sites.. docs |
| 20:13:13 | adi|home | first time rockbox stuff... |
| 20:13:18 | Neo | ok |
| 20:13:19 | Neo | well |
| 20:13:20 | Neo | gtg |
| 20:13:22 | Neo | byet |
| 20:13:25 | Neo | thanks anyays |
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| 20:13:29 | adi|home | np |
| 20:13:33 | adi|home | grrrrr... |
| 20:13:44 | adi|home | 'can you do this for me because i don't want to do the work'... |
| 20:13:45 | adi|home | sight |
| 20:13:49 | adi|home | sigh even |
| 20:14:25 | MT | he is very tedious that neo fella |
| 20:14:31 | | Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) |
| 20:15:20 | MT | but not nearly as tedious as trying to use sf pserver cvs :/ |
| 20:15:37 | MT | hmm |
| 20:15:53 | MT | im not an official sourceforge rockbox developer |
| 20:16:14 | MT | but i wonder if i can cvs co over my sf account |
| 20:17:13 | Quelsaruk | hardeep: don't you think that we should create a .rockbox dir if it doesn't exist? to work with dinamic playlists and so on :) |
| 20:17:41 | hardeep | MT: the daily source tarballs are a good way to get almost latest source without worrying about SF cvs |
| 20:18:01 | MT | true |
| 20:18:02 | hardeep | Quelsaruk: yes, we should.... unfortunately, mkdir() hasn't been implemented yet in the fat code |
| 20:18:45 | hardeep | MT: you can also access latest CVS from rockbox site... e.g. rockbox.haxx.se/apps |
| 20:18:59 | hardeep | MT: combine that with wget and you have another way of getting latest cvs |
| 20:19:17 | MT | that i did not know *G* |
| 20:21:40 | MT | hmm |
| 20:21:48 | MT | line 1549 of english.lang |
| 20:21:58 | MT | id: LANG_RECORD_TIMESPLIT_REC |
| 20:22:00 | MT | decs: Display of record timer interval setting, on the record screen |
| 20:22:12 | Quelsaruk | shit |
| 20:22:12 | Quelsaruk | ok |
| 20:22:16 | Quelsaruk | doesn't matter |
| 20:22:29 | Quelsaruk | good work (even if i'm not able to use dinamic playlists) |
| 20:22:45 | MT | no, its like bugfixing xfree ;) |
| 20:22:46 | MT | find a typo here and there, and everyone loves you ;) |
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| 20:37:46 | MT | aha |
| 20:37:54 | MT | i thought i was 'speshal' |
| 20:38:04 | MT | all simulator builds are dieing :) |
| 20:38:17 | diddystar5 | yep |
| 20:38:25 | MT | oh hmm |
| 20:38:31 | MT | theirs arent actually erroring |
| 20:38:36 | MT | just warnings |
| 20:39:00 | diddystar5 | the plugins for the win32 sim cause a nasty error :) |
| 20:39:19 | MT | RCS file: /cvsroot/rockbox/uisimulator/x11/file.h,v |
| 20:39:19 | MT | retrieving revision 1.11 |
| 20:39:19 | MT | retrieving revision 1.13 |
| 20:39:19 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK MT |
| 20:39:19 | MT | Merging differences between 1.11 and 1.13 into file.h |
| 20:39:22 | MT | its my bad :D |
| 20:39:55 | hardeep | diddystar5: hmmmm, the win32 sim plugins were working fine for me last time i tried |
| 20:40:37 | diddystar5 | one sec let me find what the error says |
| 20:43:23 | hardeep | diddystar5: i just tried with latest cvs and it's still fine |
| 20:43:51 | ricII | d1stel+ |
| 20:45:38 | diddystar5 | "The application or DLL C:/cygwin/home/rockbox/build/archos/bounce.rock is not a valid windows image" is the error i get when trying to play a plugin |
| 20:46:50 | diddystar5 | my source is almost new (1 and a half day old) |
| 20:49:59 | diddystar5 | i dunno if it helps but im running winxp |
| 20:50:20 | MT | im running XP too |
| 20:50:38 | MT | but 7 ssh terms, and a nice xserver too :D |
| 20:50:51 | diddystar5 | cool MT |
| 20:51:19 | MT | developing on windows is not fun |
| 20:51:33 | MT | but linux has too sucky a windowing system |
| 20:51:54 | MT | diddystar5: I'm actually working on the patch! |
| 20:53:16 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 20:53:16 | * | Stevie[FP] is away [(Auto-Away after 1hr)] [KS-MsgLog Off] |
| 20:53:53 | diddystar5 | MT: could you send me your last source! |
| 20:54:52 | diddystar5 | i want send it to anyone |
| 20:54:56 | MT | well i need to make it work with plugins see |
| 20:55:13 | MT | nice |
| 20:55:22 | diddystar5 | oooh |
| 20:55:25 | MT | only 1897 lines differ |
| 20:55:30 | MT | :/ |
| 20:55:31 | * | Stevie[FP] is back from [(Auto-Away after 1hr)] [gone 2mins 15secs] [KS] |
| 20:56:09 | diddystar5 | the build you sent me is cool! |
| 20:58:04 | diddystar5 | gotta go |
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| 21:10:48 | MT | hmm |
| 21:11:03 | MT | a lot of the stuff im doing here isnt in the rockbox api |
| 21:11:40 | MT | is it better to extend the plugin api, or to just include the required stuff directly |
| 21:15:16 | MT | this is crazy, even stuff like lcd_setmargins isnt in there |
| 21:21:07 | MT | neither is lcd_clear_display |
| 21:23:26 | MT | doh |
| 21:23:30 | MT | my bad, that IS in there |
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| 21:46:25 | MT | none of the lang stuff is in the plugin api? |
| 21:46:27 | MT | i suppose that makes sense actually |
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| 22:10:35 | | Join midknight2k3 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@ACCAFC4D.ipt.aol.com) |
| 22:10:50 | midknight2k3 | hello |
| 22:11:16 | MT | wicked |
| 22:11:20 | MT | segfaults agogo |
| 22:11:26 | | Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@p50861897.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:11:29 | midknight2k3 | Dragon! |
| 22:11:33 | midknight2k3 | how is rombox? |
| 22:11:38 | [IDC]Dragon | Yes! |
| 22:11:42 | midknight2k3 | :) |
| 22:12:07 | [IDC]Dragon | I released it today to Jose Maria. |
| 22:12:15 | midknight2k3 | it is fully functional? |
| 22:12:33 | [IDC]Dragon | I'd like to do one at a time currently, to avoid broken boxed piling up. |
| 22:12:41 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 22:12:55 | midknight2k3 | so it'd done? |
| 22:12:56 | [IDC]Dragon | It works for him, but the HD startup is unstable. |
| 22:12:58 | midknight2k3 | basically? |
| 22:13:07 | midknight2k3 | very cool |
| 22:13:23 | midknight2k3 | is there a way to replace archos rom? |
| 22:13:32 | [IDC]Dragon | It gived ATA error -1, but gets out of it if USB is plugged and unplugged. |
| 22:13:43 | midknight2k3 | that's weird |
| 22:13:51 | [IDC]Dragon | You have the wrong chip? |
| 22:13:57 | midknight2k3 | me? |
| 22:14:02 | [IDC]Dragon | yes. |
| 22:14:07 | midknight2k3 | I meant is there a way to restore archos firmware to rom |
| 22:14:16 | [IDC]Dragon | You mentioned replacing it. |
| 22:14:23 | midknight2k3 | oh lol |
| 22:14:42 | [IDC]Dragon | Yes, certainly, you can burn the old stuff back in. |
| 22:14:42 | midknight2k3 | I meant replacing rockbox in rom with archos firmware |
| 22:14:47 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 22:14:52 | midknight2k3 | a good idea i just had! |
| 22:15:01 | [IDC]Dragon | Which is? |
| 22:15:05 | midknight2k3 | make a program where you load any AJZ file and it will load it to rom |
| 22:15:21 | midknight2k3 | so you can have new dailybuilds and restore archos and stuff |
| 22:15:37 | [IDC]Dragon | As I said in the group, that's not so easy because of memory restrictions. |
| 22:15:45 | midknight2k3 | oh |
| 22:16:26 | [IDC]Dragon | descrambling and compressing works better when you have memory for the full thing. |
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| 22:16:44 | midknight2k3 | yeah and I know nothing about it :) |
| 22:17:25 | Stevie[FP] | [IDC]Dragon: i saw a conversation earlier between you and Z, you had said you didn't need to sleep() because the ATA stuff started up fast enough? |
| 22:18:12 | [IDC]Dragon | slow enough, you mean. |
| 22:18:15 | Stevie[FP] | err |
| 22:18:20 | Stevie[FP] | something like that |
| 22:18:36 | Stevie[FP] | it would seem you know what I mean though |
| 22:18:47 | Stevie[FP] | well wait |
| 22:19:06 | Stevie[FP] | in order for it to be ready at a certain time |
| 22:19:07 | [IDC]Dragon | I need to find out if USB is plugged, and for that some ADC measurements must have happened. They work from a different thread. |
| 22:19:21 | Stevie[FP] | okay |
| 22:19:34 | * | Stevie[FP] notes that he has a patch for the current ADC stuff, it could run faster |
| 22:19:48 | midknight2k3 | i gotta go |
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| 22:19:56 | [IDC]Dragon | But while we wait for the disk, these measurements happen. |
| 22:20:05 | Stevie[FP] | that adc stuff could happen faster tho |
| 22:20:23 | [IDC]Dragon | what do you mena? Each tich samples one channel. |
| 22:20:29 | [IDC]Dragon | mean |
| 22:20:34 | Stevie[FP] | actually that's not quite accurate |
| 22:20:35 | [IDC]Dragon | tick |
| 22:20:43 | Stevie[FP] | if you read the spec sheet |
| 22:20:54 | Stevie[FP] | when we set it to sample channel 3 |
| 22:20:59 | Stevie[FP] | the adc actually samples channels 0, 1, 2, and 3 |
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| 22:21:25 | Stevie[FP] | we could actually update those samples about four times as fast as we do now |
| 22:21:26 | Guest | hi all |
| 22:21:43 | [IDC]Dragon | No need to worry, I think. |
| 22:21:47 | Guest | what's new about the flash rom?? |
| 22:21:48 | Stevie[FP] | but anyway |
| 22:21:48 | | Join Wurst [0] (~jirc@pD9E55117.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:21:56 | Wurst | hi all! |
| 22:22:04 | Stevie[FP] | you said that the drive is ready by the time we check usb |
| 22:22:05 | Stevie[FP] | right? |
| 22:22:32 | [IDC]Dragon | I check USB after the ATA init (which waits for the drive). |
| 22:22:39 | Stevie[FP] | okay |
| 22:22:57 | [IDC]Dragon | If it's plugged, I don't auto-rolo |
| 22:23:01 | Stevie[FP] | <[IDC]Dragon> It gived ATA error -1, but gets out of it if USB is plugged and unplugged. |
| 22:23:05 | Stevie[FP] | what is 'ata error -1'? |
| 22:23:36 | [IDC]Dragon | look into the code, I didn't yet. |
| 22:23:43 | Stevie[FP] | ok how about this |
| 22:23:51 | Stevie[FP] | how do you know you're getting 'ata error -1'? |
| 22:24:09 | [IDC]Dragon | The box gives a panic srceen |
| 22:24:36 | Stevie[FP] | if (master_slave_detect()) |
| 22:24:36 | Stevie[FP] | return -1; |
| 22:24:58 | Stevie[FP] | the status bit is indicating busy |
| 22:25:32 | [IDC]Dragon | Yea, I'm browsing through that now, too. |
| 22:26:02 | Stevie[FP] | i don't see where |
| 22:26:06 | Stevie[FP] | according to the code i have here |
| 22:26:11 | [IDC]Dragon | my wait code is in check_registers(), which is the thirs step. |
| 22:26:12 | Stevie[FP] | usb is checked before ata |
| 22:26:17 | [IDC]Dragon | third step. |
| 22:26:26 | Stevie[FP] | now, it may be a little old |
| 22:26:31 | [IDC]Dragon | I should move that higher up. |
| 22:26:48 | Stevie[FP] | the code i have right here says |
| 22:26:49 | Stevie[FP] | adc_init |
| 22:26:51 | Stevie[FP] | usb_init |
| 22:26:55 | Stevie[FP] | ata_init |
| 22:27:07 | Stevie[FP] | actually there's a backlight_init and button_init in there |
| 22:27:09 | [IDC]Dragon | USB after ata in main::init |
| 22:27:19 | Stevie[FP] | ok, they must have moved it |
| 22:27:21 | [IDC]Dragon | not init, using values. |
| 22:27:41 | Wurst | sorry, is there anybody who knows about a opensource-project for the ajb multimedia? |
| 22:27:53 | Stevie[FP] | Wurst: not I |
| 22:27:56 | [IDC]Dragon | The init is before, whis is what I want. So the thread is installed and collects measurements. |
| 22:31:33 | [IDC]Dragon | Does anybody know the registry keys to disable autoplay per drive? |
| 22:31:52 | [IDC]Dragon | I'ts just pissing me off. |
| 22:36:33 | devZer0 | IDC: i`m not sure - but perhaps this helps: http://www.jsiinc.com/subh/tip3700/rh3733.htm |
| 22:38:19 | [IDC]Dragon | Hmm, I'm also not shure. The Powertoys can do it, but I was trying to avoid installing them just for this detail. |
| 22:39:04 | devZer0 | google: disable autoplay xp gives lots of hits - but very different ones :) |
| 22:39:34 | devZer0 | for me, it is "off" - but i don`t remember anymore, how i did disable that :D |
| 22:40:01 | [IDC]Dragon | I tried google, too, but no success at first glance. |
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| 22:42:20 | devZer0 | idc: don`t badly dissapoint us :) you are the god of rockbox-flashing - so you just should do a quick magic spell to your windoze box to disable autoplay ;) |
| 22:42:52 | [IDC]Dragon | Thanks for the credits, I'm just too lazy to bother. |
| 22:43:08 | devZer0 | :) |
| 22:43:13 | | Quit _aLF ("bye") |
| 22:43:23 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm working on the plugin that flashes the second image. Almost there. |
| 22:44:31 | devZer0 | greatest new "feature" in rockbox for long :D |
| 22:44:39 | devZer0 | but also the most dangerous one :) |
| 22:44:58 | devZer0 | but nevertheless: COOOOOOL! |
| 22:45:00 | adi|home | Dragon.. so whats the advantage of having Rockbox in the flash? |
| 22:45:12 | adi|home | im very ignorant about that... |
| 22:45:13 | devZer0 | adi: didn`t you see the video? |
| 22:45:30 | adi|home | nope... |
| 22:45:44 | adi|home | give me a url agaikn.. and ill spend the next 6 hrs downloaidng it :) |
| 22:45:45 | devZer0 | 3 seconds too boot and resume playing music... |
| 22:46:10 | adi|home | what is being overwritten in the flash? |
| 22:46:30 | devZer0 | http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/rockbox_flash_boot.avi |
| 22:46:39 | devZer0 | divx , 1.5mb |
| 22:46:54 | devZer0 | the original firmware :) |
| 22:47:21 | ironi | fast |
| 22:47:36 | ironi | very nice |
| 22:51:27 | [IDC]Dragon | adi: everything's overwritten in the flash ;-) |
| 22:53:10 | | Join _aLF [0] (~alex@AGrenoble-203-1-8-131.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 22:55:47 | devZer0 | idc: will you make a "dump" option for backup of the original firmware (and possible later restore) |
| 22:56:14 | [IDC]Dragon | There is already, look at the first entry of the debug menu. |
| 22:56:30 | [IDC]Dragon | Linus made that for me when I started. |
| 22:57:05 | Stevie[FP] | yeah |
| 22:57:29 | devZer0 | is it in the latest build? |
| 22:57:40 | [IDC]Dragon | That's how it all began, me disassembling the boot ROM. |
| 22:58:28 | devZer0 | ok -will take a look |
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| 23:02:20 | Stevie[FP] | I doubt having an emulator hurt much |
| 23:02:21 | Stevie[FP] | ;) |
| 23:03:02 | [IDC]Dragon | Yes, your LCD findings were also very helpful. |
| 23:03:11 | Stevie[FP] | ty :D |
| 23:03:11 | [IDC]Dragon | How is the project going? |
| 23:03:14 | devZer0 | whooha. coool. somebody interested in some other useful stuff? sorry to be "off topic" - but perhaps someone is interested in a cool way to tunnel a samba share via ssh and mount that on a windows box. i can mount my vserver on the internet now as a "network drive" :) |
| 23:03:15 | Stevie[FP] | ehh |
| 23:03:20 | Stevie[FP] | I'm in a fight with Windows |
| 23:03:25 | Stevie[FP] | I'm trying to emulate a serial port |
| 23:03:41 | Stevie[FP] | I *almost* have one there |
| 23:04:07 | [IDC]Dragon | hoe is it emulated? what's on the other end? |
| 23:04:22 | devZer0 | thats what i asked myself , too :) |
| 23:04:22 | [IDC]Dragon | how |
| 23:04:41 | [IDC]Dragon | and what did you answer yourself? |
| 23:05:09 | devZer0 | it`s still a question :D |
| 23:05:26 | devZer0 | cut of the "ed" from the asked :D |
| 23:05:34 | [IDC]Dragon | Do you want to connect it to the PC UART? |
| 23:05:56 | [IDC]Dragon | then you can connect to yourself using the othe COM port ;-) |
| 23:06:12 | [IDC]Dragon | (today is typo day) |
| 23:06:53 | devZer0 | there is already a usenet typo king on the list... |
| 23:07:00 | devZer0 | what about an irc typo king? |
| 23:07:01 | devZer0 | :D |
| 23:07:30 | MT | dlopen(archos/.rockbox/rocks/wormlet.rock): archos/.rockbox/rocks/wormlet.rock: undefined symbol: global_settings |
| 23:07:49 | MT | im not much on shared objects, laodable modules and such forth im afraid :/ |
| 23:07:58 | MT | s/ao/oa/; |
| 23:08:29 | devZer0 | ahhh - someone i can ask if i need a regex :D |
| 23:08:41 | MT | regex i can do :) |
| 23:09:27 | MT | is the loaded module unable to access 'stuff' in the main rockbox firmware? |
| 23:09:48 | MT | can it _only_ do things prescribed in the plugin api? |
| 23:11:05 | devZer0 | mhh - don`t know for shure - but i think so |
| 23:24:32 | | Join Morel_ [0] (~chatzilla@dsl-200-78-36-232.prodigy.net.mx) |
| 23:26:32 | hardeep | MT: yes, only what's in the plugin api is available to plugins |
| 23:27:53 | hardeep | MT: ie. you cannot access the global_settings structure |
| 23:28:00 | hardeep | directly |
| 23:28:19 | MT | well, how CAN i access it? |
| 23:28:48 | MT | and the other stuff, like the menu functions? |
| 23:29:05 | MT | the plugin idea is good, but it shouldnt restrict what we can already do |
| 23:29:18 | Stevie[FP] | the problem is doing it right |
| 23:29:23 | | Quit Morel_ ("ChatZilla 0.8.31 [Mozilla rv:1.4/20030624]") |
| 23:29:49 | Stevie[FP] | plugins should store their configurations in some sort of dotfile under /.rockbox |
| 23:30:14 | MT | sure |
| 23:30:17 | MT | mine already does |
| 23:30:22 | MT | but it draws menus |
| 23:30:34 | MT | and it draws them in a style that reflects the users preferences |
| 23:33:15 | Stevie[FP] | okay |
| 23:33:27 | Stevie[FP] | i can understand that |
| 23:33:32 | Stevie[FP] | we need a more solid API |
| 23:33:58 | MT | also, i found myself having to add really basic functions to the api |
| 23:34:11 | Stevie[FP] | makes sense |
| 23:34:23 | MT | like lcd_setmargins |
| 23:34:31 | hardeep | MT: as Zagor mentioned in his e-mail, he only added functions that were being used by the current set of plugins |
| 23:34:44 | hardeep | MT: the design is intended so that new apis can be added easily, if needed |
| 23:34:55 | Stevie[FP] | Rockbox is great, but it suffers from the 'progressive development' syndrome |
| 23:35:15 | Stevie[FP] | early on, a certain task had to be performed once |
| 23:35:32 | Stevie[FP] | so the code was put wholesale into the function that needed to perform that task |
| 23:35:51 | Stevie[FP] | then later on, some other function needed to do the same thing |
| 23:35:57 | MT | hardeep: thats not_strictly_ true, wormlet did use lcd_setmargins, but in the new pluginform, it wasnt |
| 23:36:14 | hardeep | MT: in that case, Zagor must have had a reason to remove it |
| 23:36:32 | Stevie[FP] | rather than split out the task into a function that can be called from either, they just did a copy-and-paste |
| 23:37:10 | MT | the reason is that the only time it is sensible to setmargins is when you have checked to see whether the user has requested a statusbar or not |
| 23:37:21 | MT | the only way to see that is to examine global_settings |
| 23:37:31 | MT | and the API doesnt (yet) provide that |
| 23:39:07 | ironi | tracktheripper see,s to be interested in my palyer |
| 23:39:10 | ironi | seems |
| 23:39:17 | ironi | i missed him again |
| 23:39:22 | ironi | maybe he wants to buy it |
| 23:39:48 | ironi | =) |
| 23:39:54 | MT | im just reading the man page for dlopen |
| 23:40:23 | Stevie[FP] | MT: I would suggest tthis |
| 23:40:24 | MT | im assuming there is some reason why we cannot link rockbox with -rdynamic ? |
| 23:40:24 | Stevie[FP] | this |
| 23:40:58 | Stevie[FP] | ... lots of technical reasons |
| 23:41:07 | Stevie[FP] | i would suggest this |
| 23:41:07 | MT | (im really quite out of my league with loadable modules and whatnot, sorry if im asking stupid questions) |
| 23:41:31 | Stevie[FP] | lcd_setmargins() is used to account for status bar and cursor type, right? |
| 23:41:53 | MT | yes |
| 23:42:04 | Stevie[FP] | thus it would make more sense if instead we had some version of lcd_setmargins() that would automatically account for those settings |
| 23:42:17 | Stevie[FP] | and then simply return the maximum width/height |
| 23:42:35 | MT | that would make more sense |
| 23:42:46 | Stevie[FP] | then you wouldn't need to worry about font height, or the global settings |
| 23:42:53 | Stevie[FP] | other than maybe the cursor type |
| 23:46:40 | | Part devZer0 |
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