| 00:08:24 | | Join tracktheripper1 [0] (jirc@ACBE837E.ipt.aol.com) |
| 00:08:24 | | Quit tracktheripper1 (Client Quit) |
| 00:08:36 | tracktheripper | hello |
| 00:08:50 | tracktheripper | Sourceforge's server isn't working |
| 00:11:34 | | Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m232.net195-132-84.noos.fr) |
| 00:11:37 | BoD[] | hello ! |
| 00:13:06 | tracktheripper | hey BoD! |
| 00:13:31 | BoD[] | does anybody have msn messenger ? |
| 00:15:15 | tracktheripper | yes |
| 00:20:01 | [IDC]Dragon | In cas anybody cares: I've now released FM flashing, see my posting. |
| 00:20:58 | Stevie-O | <tracktheripper> Sourceforge's server isn't working |
| 00:21:11 | Stevie-O | In other news, the Earth is round |
| 00:23:35 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm off for bed, cu! |
| 00:23:54 | | Quit [IDC]Dragon () |
| 00:24:52 | tracktheripper | actually the Earth is spherical, not round :-P |
| 00:25:37 | Stevie-O | i'd really like to see a sphere that isn't round |
| 00:27:48 | BoD[] | he means that round is a 2d term |
| 00:28:01 | tracktheripper | Stevie how many small cubes make up a Rubik's Cube? |
| 00:29:12 | BoD[] | 14 ? |
| 00:29:41 | tracktheripper | 26, there isn't a cube in the centre |
| 00:29:52 | BoD[] | 26 ??? |
| 00:30:21 | BoD[] | oh is it a 4 cube :) |
| 00:30:33 | BoD[] | my 14 is for a 3 cube |
| 00:33:09 | Stevie-O | a 4 cube? |
| 00:33:26 | tracktheripper | no 26 is for a 3 cube |
| 00:33:41 | tracktheripper | put it this way, 9x9=27 |
| 00:33:55 | tracktheripper | but there is no centremost cube |
| 00:34:00 | Stevie-O | tracktheripper: duh? |
| 00:34:03 | tracktheripper | so therefore 27-1 = 26 |
| 00:34:21 | * | Stevie-O gives you a gold star for your math skillz |
| 00:34:31 | BoD[] | :))))) |
| 00:35:06 | tracktheripper | ive got a great feature request "Use your OWN picture for the Sliding Puzzle |
| 00:35:07 | tracktheripper | " |
| 00:35:30 | BoD[] | there's a sliding puzzle ?? |
| 00:35:43 | tracktheripper | its one of the plug-ins |
| 00:37:15 | BoD[] | great :) |
| 00:41:47 | | Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) |
| 00:42:20 | hardeep | hey, anyone have an FMR and using a fairly recent build? |
| 00:42:57 | BoD[] | what is an fmr ? |
| 00:43:07 | BoD[] | oh fm recorder |
| 00:43:15 | BoD[] | nosorry |
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| 00:43:51 | hardeep | if so, could you go to Main Menu->Playlist Options->Recursively Insert Directories and tell me what you see please |
| 00:46:46 | tpelliott | The dynamic playlist functions work great for me from flashed firmware. The only thing I had trouble with after flashing is that it would hang at "Loading" if I turned it on with USB plugged in. With the latest build, it works like it should. It comes on and goes into usb mode. |
| 00:49:53 | | Quit hardeep ("BitchX: stays crunchy in milk!") |
| 00:53:14 | tracktheripper | BoD I filed that as a feature request |
| 00:54:35 | BoD[] | great |
| 00:56:37 | tracktheripper | should be possible (theoretically) |
| 00:57:15 | | Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") |
| 00:58:25 | tpelliott | What feature request? |
| 01:00 |
| 01:01:32 | tpelliott | The feature I'm waiting for is a charging screen so we don't have to rely on the Archos firmware for charging when the battery level is too low to spin up the drive. |
| 01:02:23 | Hes | it should be enough to just start up the power thread before the hard disk power on... |
| 01:02:39 | tpelliott | What idiot thaught we would want the display lights on all the time during charging? |
| 01:03:57 | Hes | if it hasn't been changed very lately, the power management thread which controls the charger on the non-FM Recorders is the last thread that is started |
| 01:04:18 | Hes | (i guess it's the last thread that was added 8-) |
| 01:04:20 | | Join earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-141-156-195-146.res.east.verizon.net) |
| 01:04:26 | tpelliott | Do you have an FM? |
| 01:04:38 | earHurts | I do! |
| 01:05:05 | tpelliott | Have you tried flashing your FM? The firmware has been test now. |
| 01:05:14 | tpelliott | tested |
| 01:05:22 | earHurts | who test it? |
| 01:05:27 | earHurts | tested |
| 01:05:35 | Hes | maybe moving power_init(); in apps/main.c to right after adc_init(); would help with the problem |
| 01:05:51 | tpelliott | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-07/0645.shtml |
| 01:06:21 | tpelliott | Jorg (Who else). |
| 01:06:24 | earHurts | I'm getting all of today's email now |
| 01:06:35 | Hes | power_init(); enables the charger immediately if the level seems to be low |
| 01:07:16 | Hes | though I'm not sure if that is enough to power the disk up |
| 01:07:20 | earHurts | you running it tpe? |
| 01:07:20 | Hes | but maybe. |
| 01:07:21 | tracktheripper | does the FMrec use hardware or software for charging |
| 01:07:27 | Hes | tracktheripper: hardware |
| 01:07:41 | tracktheripper | so howcome the normal rec uses software charger??!! |
| 01:07:50 | tpelliott | It will test the power leven instead of just going into charge mode when it's turned on by plugging in the power adapter? |
| 01:07:59 | earHurts | and rockbox will shut the fm down when it still has ~30 minutes power left |
| 01:08:02 | Hes | because it doesn't have hardware charger control electronics |
| 01:08:26 | tracktheripper | yea but you still need hardware to physically get the current into the batteries........ |
| 01:08:37 | Hes | yes? |
| 01:10:35 | Hes | tpelliott: currently rockbox checks if charging should be enabled after everything else has been started up and initialized, including the disk |
| 01:10:48 | tpelliott | Has anyone bought the new 2200 mha batteries? |
| 01:11:05 | Hes | We could simply move the charger init somewhere before the disk startup, that would give us a lot more power for the disk startup |
| 01:13:35 | Hes | z ! |
| 01:15:08 | tpelliott | I still think we should drop checking for firmware on the disc. |
| 01:16:13 | tpelliott | I'm not a programmer but I have a simple batch file that converts the daily build into a "rockbox.ucl" file. |
| 01:18:36 | earHurts | ok, flash firmware has been copied to the archos |
| 01:19:14 | tpelliott | Is it working ok? |
| 01:19:29 | earHurts | just been copied to the disk |
| 01:19:39 | earHurts | not flashed, yet |
| 01:19:52 | earHurts | booting |
| 01:20:04 | tpelliott | A friend of mine has an FM but his is fairly new and I don't think he wants to kill the warrenty yet. |
| 01:21:32 | earHurts | i upgraded the disk. so much for warranty |
| 01:22:15 | tpelliott | I want to upgrade my AJBR20. What disc did you go with? |
| 01:22:38 | tracktheripper | there has to be a reason why NTFS doesn't work |
| 01:22:44 | earHurts | fujitsu, the quiet one |
| 01:23:18 | tpelliott | \I'm looking at the Toshiba 60GB. Under $160 |
| 01:24:30 | tracktheripper | Why on earth do you need a 60Gb drive for? |
| 01:24:32 | earHurts | internal roms backed up |
| 01:24:36 | tracktheripper | I can't even fill my 10Gb drive |
| 01:24:53 | tpelliott | mp3's, what else :) |
| 01:24:54 | earHurts | emusic.com |
| 01:25:03 | earHurts | I spent $170 |
| 01:25:11 | tracktheripper | yea but you must encode at some stupidly high bitrate |
| 01:25:13 | earHurts | with shipping |
| 01:25:33 | earHurts | um, vbr ~192 |
| 01:26:02 | tpelliott | I encode at 192 cbr Lame. I have a ton of CDs that I have no room for on my 20GV |
| 01:26:24 | earHurts | vbr's better |
| 01:26:45 | earHurts | it'll allow portions to be >192 where needed |
| 01:27:38 | Shrike| | question before i go to bed, archos mp3 players = choice for the more dynamic user? (nerdy in otherwords) |
| 01:27:57 | earHurts | ipod's are still sexier |
| 01:28:09 | earHurts | archos is user hackable |
| 01:28:21 | Shrike| | screw looks :D don't want something better looking than me |
| 01:28:23 | Shrike| | hmm |
| 01:28:25 | earHurts | ipod is lighter & more disk |
| 01:28:33 | Shrike| | more expensive |
| 01:28:41 | earHurts | archos is cheaper & more disk if you upgrade |
| 01:28:48 | tpelliott | I haven't messed with VBR. I encode 192 cbr, highest quality stereo (Not JS). and mono 96 for mono sources. |
| 01:29:00 | earHurts | no JS? |
| 01:29:12 | Shrike| | ok thanks, night all |
| 01:29:17 | earHurts | doesn't it decode to the same thing? |
| 01:29:33 | tpelliott | I've heard js can compromize quality. |
| 01:29:37 | earHurts | with less huffman space? |
| 01:29:38 | | Quit Shrike| ("<Darf> BOB BOB HES OUR MAN IF HE CANT FUCK IT UP SETHY WILL AV A GOOD GO|[00:26] <Antioch> best slogan ever:<Antioch> "Keeps ) |
| 01:30:06 | earHurts | fuck. a four line goodbye message |
| 01:30:10 | tracktheripper | 192kbs CBR is fine for me |
| 01:30:29 | tracktheripper | above 192= pointless, below 192= compression artifacts |
| 01:30:42 | earHurts | vbr allows the good parts to encode higher |
| 01:30:49 | tpelliott | I did download a few tracks at 320 that I didn't downsample. |
| 01:31:02 | tracktheripper | yea but VBR is harder to decode |
| 01:31:12 | earHurts | so? |
| 01:31:25 | earHurts | you decoding em with an abucus? |
| 01:31:45 | tpelliott | Do you guys do much serious recording with your Archos? |
| 01:31:50 | earHurts | nope |
| 01:32:00 | tracktheripper | yes I do |
| 01:32:04 | earHurts | ok, about to flash. |
| 01:32:10 | earHurts | hide your eyes |
| 01:32:26 | tpelliott | <drum roll> |
| 01:33:07 | tracktheripper | why are you lot so keen on wreaking your Jukeboxes for? |
| 01:33:22 | earHurts | verify ok |
| 01:34:47 | tpelliott | We aren't wrecking anything. We trust Jorg. He's a genious :) |
| 01:35:27 | earHurts | and a genius, too |
| 01:35:31 | tracktheripper | oh right |
| 01:35:39 | tracktheripper | whats wrong wiv loading firmwar of the HD |
| 01:35:43 | earHurts | about to boot |
| 01:35:53 | tpelliott | I'm no good at spelling. |
| 01:36:19 | earHurts | imy god! it's, it's full of stars! |
| 01:36:50 | tpelliott | Is that good or bad? :) |
| 01:37:07 | earHurts | line from 2001 a space odyssey |
| 01:37:17 | tpelliott | ok. |
| 01:37:20 | earHurts | when they look into the monolith |
| 01:37:29 | earHurts | it boots way faster |
| 01:37:37 | earHurts | unless I press f1 |
| 01:37:59 | earHurts | ! |
| 01:38:09 | tpelliott | Then, it still boots faster with Archos (lousy) firmware. |
| 01:38:23 | earHurts | not much faster :) |
| 01:38:29 | earHurts | ok, faster |
| 01:38:55 | earHurts | I'll delete ajbrec.ajz_ |
| 01:39:02 | earHurts | so I can boot archos |
| 01:39:19 | tpelliott | You can keep it for Archos to load if you want. |
| 01:39:40 | tpelliott | Rockbox will look for the exact file name. |
| 01:39:47 | earHurts | no, I want to load the old firmware |
| 01:40:26 | earHurts | utterly sweet! |
| 01:41:11 | earHurts | about 4 seconds |
| 01:41:41 | tpelliott | Turn it off, plug in the usb and turn it back on to see if boots to USB. |
| 01:42:13 | tpelliott | That's the only problem I had first time. I had to turn it on before plugging in USB |
| 01:42:43 | tpelliott | Latest daily build solves that problem for me. |
| 01:43:28 | earHurts | yeah, i see logo, then usb |
| 01:43:40 | earHurts | both rockbox |
| 01:43:43 | tpelliott | Cool. |
| 01:44:07 | earHurts | unplug gives me rockbox dir |
| 01:44:42 | earHurts | utterly cool |
| 01:45:21 | earHurts | and rockbox even boots faster from flash than does archos |
| 01:45:36 | earHurts | what were the archos programmers smoking? |
| 01:46:05 | tpelliott | I haven't seen a single update for Archos's firmware. Remember the days when we would try to load large playlist only to see it take forever, then it would turn off before playing anything. |
| 01:46:28 | earHurts | never even tried playlists on archos |
| 01:46:49 | earHurts | I remember when I first tried rockbox |
| 01:46:52 | tracktheripper | the archos firmware can only play 999 entries in playlist |
| 01:46:59 | earHurts | before there was an fm rockbox |
| 01:47:07 | tracktheripper | which is crass to say the least |
| 01:47:12 | earHurts | defualt's now 10000 |
| 01:47:12 | tpelliott | At least the hardware is solid (if you get a good unit). |
| 01:47:24 | earHurts | true enough, tpe |
| 01:47:26 | tracktheripper | my unit is almost indestructable |
| 01:47:46 | earHurts | I've kinda destructed mine, putting in the new hdd |
| 01:48:17 | tpelliott | Is Archos the only hard drive mp3 player that allows freely copying file to and from the player? |
| 01:48:26 | earHurts | dunno |
| 01:48:29 | tracktheripper | no |
| 01:48:43 | tracktheripper | the Creative Labs MuVo also offers that |
| 01:49:16 | tpelliott | 128MB, who wants that? I don't jog anyway. |
| 01:49:45 | earHurts | two of my uncles died jogging |
| 01:49:46 | tracktheripper | well its just a USB Memory key wiv the player tacked on |
| 01:50:35 | tracktheripper | awww |
| 01:50:42 | tpelliott | I've heard the ipod lets you copy files to and from it from a drive letter, but only on a separate partition, not the music partition. |
| 01:51:00 | earHurts | no, i was being serious, track |
| 01:51:28 | earHurts | not clear about ipod drm. a colleuge has an ipod,'seems happy |
| 01:52:40 | tpelliott | I'm waiting for the Archos type external hard drive behavior to be declared illegal by the RIAA. |
| 01:53:16 | earHurts | it has legit uses |
| 01:53:31 | tpelliott | True, but... |
| 01:53:32 | earHurts | and all my mp3s are legal |
| 01:53:47 | tpelliott | Most of mine are from my own CDs. |
| 01:54:10 | earHurts | all are form my cds or emusic.com |
| 01:54:54 | tpelliott | But it's too easy for you to give tunes to your friends. |
| 01:55:04 | earHurts | not really |
| 01:55:20 | earHurts | I had a good friend ask me to d/l some emusic for her |
| 01:55:23 | earHurts | I said no |
| 01:55:40 | earHurts | then I bought her a $25 poster |
| 01:56:18 | tpelliott | Does emisic files have any embedded security code? |
| 01:56:41 | earHurts | I don't know |
| 01:57:04 | earHurts | I'll arrange a test |
| 01:57:07 | tpelliott | I've often wondered how the binaries newsgroups can keep going? |
| 01:57:32 | earHurts | no crackdown |
| 01:58:28 | tpelliott | What bitrate are emusic tunes? |
| 01:58:31 | BoD[] | hep can you please go to http://JRAF.org:4242/tmp/yes.html and tell me if it works ? |
| 01:59:02 | earHurts | vbr, ~160-192 |
| 01:59:10 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:59:21 | earHurts | so the highest is about 224 on average |
| 01:59:36 | earHurts | I think they're using -r3mix |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:34 | earHurts | In otherwords, about what I'd use, except I go bit higher now that I have extra disk space |
| 02:00:39 | tpelliott | I'll have to check out emusic. |
| 02:01:13 | tpelliott | What headphones are you using? |
| 02:01:32 | earHurts | $10/month for ~2000 tracks |
| 02:01:59 | earHurts | sony mdr-g56 |
| 02:02:05 | tpelliott | I need to get better phones but I want something that dits easily in my pocket. |
| 02:02:21 | earHurts | the sonys don't fold |
| 02:02:50 | tpelliott | I have some $20 Sony earbuds that aren |
| 02:02:56 | tpelliott | t too bad |
| 02:03:09 | tpelliott | Very easy to stash. |
| 02:04:00 | earHurts | earbuds annoy me |
| 02:05:40 | tpelliott | These are the best I've tried. They have a rubbery piece that funnels sound into your ear canal without being "earplug" type. |
| 02:06:13 | earHurts | hmm |
| 02:07:17 | earHurts | so, 99,999 flashes left |
| 02:08:03 | tpelliott | I have a large pair of Sony MDR-V6 folding phones that sound great. I need new earpads. I've had them for about 14 years. |
| 02:08:26 | earHurts | wow |
| 02:08:48 | earHurts | I got the sonys after I snapped the archos phone's cord |
| 02:09:05 | earHurts | for me, phones are ephemeral |
| 02:10:31 | earHurts | do you use any id3 tags archos doesn't read? |
| 02:11:00 | | Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") |
| 02:11:15 | tpelliott | Not really. |
| 02:11:49 | earHurts | I want to add user specified tags |
| 02:12:31 | tpelliott | \I don't use the genre tag that much. |
| 02:12:53 | earHurts | I use several |
| 02:15:22 | tpelliott | What kind of music do you listen to? Mine is mostly rock, with a little jazz. |
| 02:15:54 | earHurts | the tags become a 'problem' only for classical music |
| 02:16:21 | tpelliott | True. |
| 02:18:34 | earHurts | and you can't shuffle, as one 'song' is divided into one track per movement |
| 02:19:33 | tpelliott | ]Do you just combine tracks? |
| 02:20:20 | earHurts | nope |
| 02:20:45 | tpelliott | Early CDs had index points but those aren't even supported on newer players. |
| 02:20:53 | earHurts | I leave separate; each movemt has a name (really, a playing direction) |
| 02:21:06 | earHurts | yeah |
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| 02:23:18 | tpelliott | I'm looking at the Sony headphones page. They have a pair for only $699.99. |
| 02:23:35 | earHurts | grab em! |
| 02:23:36 | tracktheripper | WHAT! |
| 02:23:44 | tracktheripper | £699.99??? |
| 02:24:04 | earHurts | no, real money :) |
| 02:24:07 | tpelliott | http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_BrowseCatalog-Start;sid=4NBBOstOr_pBAvRdpUlLMYRBhXdb-pCrtcU=?Dept=pa&CatalogCategoryID=Rx8KC0%2eNFDUAAAD2cuWHHFC1 |
| 02:24:33 | earHurts | they better massage your ears too |
| 02:24:56 | tracktheripper | :D |
| 02:25:31 | tracktheripper | you must be able to do something with the Player's character cells |
| 02:25:58 | earHurts | write chars to em? |
| 02:26:29 | earHurts | actually, look up what was done with dos boxes before graphic cards |
| 02:26:31 | tracktheripper | Well since they are composed of pixels like the Recorder's LCD you must be able to use the 22 characters like a mini LCD panel |
| 02:27:20 | earHurts | but at each refresh, the lcd would read the new char set |
| 02:27:27 | tracktheripper | :| |
| 02:27:55 | earHurts | what's the pixel size of each char? |
| 02:28:19 | tracktheripper | 5x7 |
| 02:28:33 | tracktheripper | each character cell is made up of 35 pixels |
| 02:28:40 | earHurts | 2**35 |
| 02:28:56 | tracktheripper | so 35x22= 770 pixels in total |
| 02:29:00 | tracktheripper | on the Player |
| 02:29:39 | earHurts | i suspect you can't address individual pixels |
| 02:30:11 | tracktheripper | well if they really wanted to use character cells, why not use a calculator-type LCD? |
| 02:30:21 | tracktheripper | with the segments rather than pixels? |
| 02:30:32 | earHurts | looks better? |
| 02:31:05 | tracktheripper | i mean segments like on a calculator LCD |
| 02:31:22 | earHurts | yeah |
| 02:31:26 | earHurts | looks better |
| 02:33:03 | | Part tpelliott |
| 02:34:11 | | Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") |
| 02:40:30 | | Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) |
| 02:41:10 | hardeep | earHurts: around? |
| 02:42:48 | earHurts | yup |
| 02:43:09 | earHurts | what can i do for you? |
| 02:43:33 | hardeep | earHurts: are you using any patches in your build? |
| 02:43:44 | earHurts | i don't know |
| 02:43:57 | hardeep | earHurts: I don't see anything in the code that would be causing the recursive insert bug |
| 02:44:00 | earHurts | i'm using idcdragon's build |
| 02:44:10 | hardeep | eartHurts: and i tried it out on the simulator and couldn't reproduce |
| 02:44:22 | earHurts | did you see the list today? |
| 02:44:38 | earHurts | another fm usr's reporting it |
| 02:44:38 | hardeep | earHurts: in that case you're probably not using any patches |
| 02:44:45 | hardeep | earHurts: yeah, i saw |
| 02:45:01 | hardeep | earHurts: could you try a reset again please |
| 02:45:19 | earHurts | sure |
| 02:45:50 | earHurts | ok, done |
| 02:46:12 | earHurts | still no options |
| 02:46:57 | earHurts | are you simulating fm? |
| 02:47:40 | hardeep | earHurts: sorta, just added the FM recorder define to the recorder simulator |
| 02:48:09 | earHurts | hmm |
| 02:48:27 | earHurts | it's gotta be a conflict with an fm setting |
| 02:48:43 | hardeep | earHurts: there are no fm settings being used in the config block |
| 02:49:00 | earHurts | sure there must be |
| 02:49:01 | hardeep | earHurts: there are three in the structure, but none are used anywhere in the code |
| 02:49:27 | earHurts | ok, try this |
| 02:49:53 | earHurts | move the position of the recursive option |
| 02:50:08 | hardeep | earHurts: could you go to debug->view/clr rtc ram |
| 02:50:28 | earHurts | and do what? |
| 02:51:07 | earHurts | what value in rtc is recursive? |
| 02:51:14 | hardeep | earHurts: er, tell me what's at 0x2c |
| 02:51:39 | hardeep | earHurts: 0x2f is the byte that contains the recursive setting |
| 02:51:54 | earHurts | rtc read only goes to |
| 02:51:56 | earHurts | nevermind |
| 02:52:13 | earHurts | 2c is 7d |
| 02:52:36 | earHurts | 2f is 03 |
| 02:52:57 | hardeep | earHurts: hmmm, then recursive should be off |
| 02:53:18 | earHurts | 3 is off? |
| 02:53:38 | hardeep | 3 = browse current on and play selected on |
| 02:53:53 | earHurts | oh, it's bits |
| 02:53:59 | hardeep | recursive is bits 2 and 3 |
| 02:54:43 | hardeep | earHurts: lets try that moving around thing. can you build? |
| 02:54:50 | earHurts | sure |
| 02:54:59 | earHurts | based on what? |
| 02:55:06 | earHurts | current cvs? |
| 02:55:25 | hardeep | earHurts: something somewhat recent, this code hasn't changed in a couple of weeks |
| 02:55:40 | earHurts | let me update |
| 02:56:37 | earHurts | what do you want me to do after a I update? |
| 02:57:38 | hardeep | earHurts: delete the 3 settings #ifdef HAVE_FMRADIO in settings.h |
| 02:57:49 | hardeep | earHurts: fm_* |
| 02:58:21 | earHurts | how about I just #undef HAVE_etc |
| 02:58:44 | hardeep | earHurts: nah, that will touch too much |
| 02:59:02 | earHurts | ok, I'll comment out |
| 02:59:30 | earHurts | crap! I missed manor house |
| 03:00 |
| 03:01:53 | hardeep | hmmm, never heard of it |
| 03:02:30 | earHurts | bbc reality show |
| 03:03:07 | earHurts | the paticipants play merchant knight & family or their servants |
| 03:03:15 | earHurts | in edwaedian england |
| 03:03:40 | earHurts | they really get into the class distinctions of their parts |
| 03:04:02 | earHurts | the poor butler really takes it hard |
| 03:05:58 | earHurts | lines 159-164 commented out |
| 03:07:05 | earHurts | make clean |
| 03:07:18 | earHurts | make |
| 03:15:39 | earHurts | having to make again |
| 03:15:50 | earHurts | wrong gcc |
| 03:20:50 | earHurts | commenting those out makes no change |
| 03:21:28 | hardeep | earHurts: hmmm, okay |
| 03:21:56 | hardeep | i gotta go but i'll keep investigating |
| 03:22:13 | earHurts | k |
| 03:22:16 | earHurts | thanks |
| 03:22:24 | hardeep | btw, what are your max playlist , max files and show icons settings>? |
| 03:22:47 | earHurts | default and default and yes |
| 03:23:01 | hardeep | oh, one more thing you can try... what happens when you save the settings? |
| 03:23:23 | hardeep | what's the recurse setting in the cfg file? |
| 03:23:40 | earHurts | 400, 10000, Yes |
| 03:23:52 | earHurts | the test file? |
| 03:23:56 | earHurts | text? |
| 03:24:34 | hardeep | earHurts: yeah |
| 03:25:20 | earHurts | off |
| 03:25:34 | hardeep | blah |
| 03:25:53 | hardeep | that means the setting is correct |
| 03:26:27 | earHurts | ok, let me read on |
| 03:27:09 | earHurts | I just read on. 2f is now 7 |
| 03:27:34 | earHurts | 111b |
| 03:28:16 | earHurts | still no options though |
| 03:28:40 | hardeep | earHurts: hmmm, 7 is correct |
| 03:28:55 | hardeep | must be the menu code then |
| 03:29:01 | earHurts | ok, I'm going to do a dir |
| 03:29:32 | earHurts | it's rather slow |
| 03:30:03 | earHurts | got about 10 tracks/sec |
| 03:30:09 | earHurts | playing |
| 03:30:19 | earHurts | sweet |
| 03:30:30 | earHurts | nice work hardeep |
| 03:30:31 | hardeep | earHurts: yeah, that's about right |
| 03:30:42 | hardeep | earHurts: disk writing is slow |
| 03:30:52 | hardeep | earHurts: er, it's working now? |
| 03:30:56 | earHurts | yeah |
| 03:31:09 | hardeep | earHurts: the menu too? |
| 03:31:16 | earHurts | I just can't set the seettings in the nebu |
| 03:31:22 | earHurts | menu doesn't work |
| 03:31:22 | hardeep | ah, okay |
| 03:31:35 | earHurts | I typed 'on' in the config file |
| 03:31:41 | hardeep | earHurts: what language do you use? |
| 03:31:50 | earHurts | american |
| 03:31:53 | earHurts | english |
| 03:32:29 | earHurts | want me to try another? |
| 03:32:39 | hardeep | earHurts: laugh, sure, why not |
| 03:32:45 | hardeep | earHurts: any except dutch |
| 03:33:00 | earHurts | de |
| 03:33:24 | earHurts | de doesn't xlat playlist |
| 03:33:32 | earHurts | no opts |
| 03:33:44 | hardeep | hmmm, okay |
| 03:33:55 | earHurts | spanish |
| 03:34:03 | earHurts | no xlat |
| 03:34:10 | earHurts | no opts |
| 03:34:22 | hardeep | heh, guess it's not language then |
| 03:34:32 | earHurts | it |
| 03:34:35 | hardeep | okay, got it narrowed somewhat, i'll continue investigating later |
| 03:34:41 | hardeep | thanks for your help |
| 03:34:49 | earHurts | no, thank you |
| 03:35:04 | hardeep | heh, bye |
| 03:35:07 | | Quit hardeep ("[BX] Check out the sexy BitchX pr0n at http://127.0.0.1/bx-pron.html") |
| 03:35:07 | earHurts | byre |
| 03:55:44 | | Quit BoD[] ("TCL 4EVA") |
| 03:59:15 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 04:00 |
| 04:00:22 | | Join tpelliott [0] (telliott@208.251.255.120) |
| 04:01:46 | tpelliott | FM still running fine, Earl? |
| 04:05:45 | | Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) |
| 04:07:24 | | Join OliverKlozoff [0] (whatsit2u@user-2inilt2.dialup.mindspring.com) |
| 04:07:25 | | Quit Stevie-O (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 04:07:31 | hardeep | earHurts: still around? |
| 04:09:31 | tpelliott | I haven't seen him lately but I was here when he successfully flashed his FM. |
| 04:10:57 | tpelliott | Are you guys working on a charging screen? |
| 04:12:18 | hardeep | tpelliott: [IDC]Dragon would be the one working on it if anyone is |
| 04:15:48 | tpelliott | Everything is working fine here though I wouldn't mind if Jorg removed jooking for firmware on the hard drive. |
| 04:21:13 | OliverKlozoff | i hate jooking for firmware |
| 04:21:16 | OliverKlozoff | it's such a PITA |
| 04:22:07 | tpelliott | Sorry. My fingers sometimes hits the wrong key. |
| 04:35:06 | hardeep | earHurts: try the next bleeding edge build and see if it fixes the problem |
| 04:36:03 | tpelliott | Your change only affects the FM? |
| 04:38:51 | tpelliott | I'm curious why you guys haven't mentioned the wonderful "Rockbox in rom" in the front-page news? Are you waiting to make sure all is ok? |
| 04:43:25 | earHurts | god! |
| 04:43:32 | | Quit hardeep ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") |
| 04:43:39 | earHurts | I will never use paypal again |
| 04:47:50 | tpelliott | What happened with paypal? |
| 04:49:36 | tpelliott | FYI on my AJBR20 with the latest build, just downloaded and flashed, holding off with power plugged in causes Rockbox to restart. |
| 04:53:40 | earHurts | to order via paypal, you have to join |
| 04:54:19 | earHurts | then they want your mom's maiden name, birth city, partial ssn or oartial driver's id |
| 04:54:46 | earHurts | in other words, enought that if they get cracked, it,s identity theft time |
| 04:55:11 | earHurts | and then it's a pain to close the account |
| 04:55:58 | earHurts | all I wanted to do was buy two cds |
| 04:56:26 | earHurts | just spend 48 bucks and be done |
| 04:58:46 | tpelliott | I'm buisy trying to solve the sliding puzzel...I was never good at those when I was a kid. |
| 04:59:55 | earHurts | yah just pop out #15 |
| 05:00 |
| 05:05:16 | tpelliott | Did you try the latest bleeding edge build, earl? |
| 05:08:05 | earHurts | earl? |
| 05:08:20 | earHurts | I'll have you know I a count |
| 05:10:01 | tpelliott | if you run windows, here's the batch file I use to convert the AJZ file |
| 05:10:09 | tpelliott | @echo off |
| 05:10:09 | tpelliott | descramble ajbrec.ajz rockbox.bin |
| 05:10:09 | tpelliott | uclpack −−2e −−best rockbox.bin rockbox.ucl |
| 05:10:09 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK tpelliott |
| 05:10:09 | tpelliott | del rockbox.bin |
| 05:10:09 | tpelliott | del ajbrec.ajz |
| 05:11:05 | tpelliott | Sorry. Read your nick wrong. |
| 05:11:58 | tpelliott | earHurts, like you have an ear ache? |
| 05:12:00 | earHurts | thanks |
| 05:12:06 | earHurts | yeah |
| 05:12:12 | earHurts | like an earache |
| 05:12:25 | earHurts | when I first rockbo irc'd |
| 05:12:46 | earHurts | I'm making the bleeding edge now |
| 05:13:02 | tpelliott | You build your own? |
| 05:13:41 | earHurts | couldn't find the bleeding edge binary link |
| 05:14:17 | earHurts | besides, I like making my own |
| 05:14:18 | tpelliott | You need the rocks also. |
| 05:14:36 | earHurts | did they bump the api again? |
| 05:15:11 | earHurts | the build should build the rocks |
| 05:15:23 | earHurts | not sure about the flashing rock |
| 05:15:27 | tpelliott | ok. |
| 05:15:46 | tpelliott | The flashing rock wikk be new. |
| 05:15:50 | | Join Schnueff_ [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) |
| 05:15:53 | tpelliott | will |
| 05:16:06 | earHurts | hang a sec, I'll check |
| 05:16:42 | tpelliott | I want to understand C well enough to build my own....eventually. |
| 05:17:00 | earHurts | you need no C just to build |
| 05:17:41 | | Quit Schnueff (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 05:17:49 | tpelliott | If I don't understand any of the code, I might as well download the pre-built binary. |
| 05:18:14 | | Quit OliverKlozoff (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 05:18:18 | earHurts | well, true |
| 05:18:47 | earHurts | reading code's not difficult |
| 05:18:58 | earHurts | knowing what to write can be |
| 05:19:27 | tpelliott | Make shure you put "rockbox.ucl" in the root. You can keep all the rocks together. |
| 05:20:09 | earHurts | what's rockbox.ucl? the compressed image? |
| 05:20:40 | tpelliott | Yes. Descramble to .bin, then compress to .ucl |
| 05:20:56 | earHurts | do you know any programming language? |
| 05:21:28 | tpelliott | Batch files....from my many days (years) running DOS. |
| 05:22:00 | earHurts | you know what %1 does in a batch? |
| 05:22:45 | tpelliott | Takes what the user types after the batch file and puts it in place of %1 |
| 05:23:02 | earHurts | yeah. it's a variable |
| 05:23:31 | earHurts | open up tree.c and start reading |
| 05:23:34 | tpelliott | Yes. I understand a few of the concepts of programming. |
| 05:24:14 | tpelliott | ok. |
| 05:24:23 | earHurts | doesn't build flash rock. |
| 05:24:45 | tpelliott | It should be.... |
| 05:25:34 | tpelliott | rockbox_flash.rock |
| 05:25:46 | earHurts | no dice |
| 05:26:15 | tpelliott | Strange. It should be in the package on the web site. |
| 05:26:23 | earHurts | let's see what bleeding does |
| 05:26:58 | earHurts | no fix |
| 05:27:02 | tpelliott | It's there, just checked. |
| 05:27:14 | earHurts | is it in cvs? |
| 05:27:25 | earHurts | crap. |
| 05:27:43 | earHurts | where are the bleeding edge binaries? |
| 05:27:48 | tpelliott | in the bleeding edge build. |
| 05:28:12 | tpelliott | http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml |
| 05:28:51 | earHurts | oh |
| 05:28:56 | earHurts | bottom of page |
| 05:29:47 | tpelliott | You have to use a switch with the compression. Just use my batch file. |
| 05:30:08 | earHurts | thanks, but I'm not going to flash it |
| 05:30:30 | tpelliott | Why not? |
| 05:31:11 | earHurts | I want to mess around with the code, add some private patches |
| 05:31:32 | tpelliott | I want to be able to do that. |
| 05:31:45 | tpelliott | What kind of stuff is in your private patches? |
| 05:31:49 | earHurts | you know the credits screen? |
| 05:31:56 | tpelliott | Yes. |
| 05:32:01 | earHurts | ah! |
| 05:32:07 | earHurts | the bleeding works. |
| 05:32:15 | earHurts | but my build doesn't! |
| 05:32:43 | earHurts | I change all the names in credits to their pig latin translation |
| 05:34:47 | earHurts | kidding |
| 05:34:51 | tpelliott | interesting. I was thinking you changed the menus to the way you like them or something like that. |
| 05:35:15 | earHurts | I have patch to remove the begiing of file names from the display |
| 05:35:51 | earHurts | beginning |
| 05:36:00 | tpelliott | Cool. |
| 05:36:03 | earHurts | and a patch to make settings smaller |
| 05:36:52 | tpelliott | I would like to change some of the quick settings. |
| 05:37:27 | earHurts | me too |
| 05:37:30 | earHurts | how? |
| 05:38:48 | earHurts | what changes would you make? |
| 05:39:02 | tpelliott | I like the dynamic playlist feature. I would like single-key insert and re-randomize. After I add atuff, I like to randomize everything. I have to turn shuffel off and back on. |
| 05:39:41 | earHurts | why not just leave shuffle on?. |
| 05:40:17 | tpelliott | the inserted stuff isn't shuffeled. |
| 05:40:52 | tpelliott | Hardeep told me about the off-oin trick. |
| 05:41:06 | earHurts | won't it play shuffled if shuffle is on? |
| 05:41:07 | tpelliott | on |
| 05:42:16 | tpelliott | Instead of shuffel off on, I would have the quick setting reshuffel. |
| 05:43:29 | earHurts | what happens if you leave shuffle on when you inser? |
| 05:46:18 | tpelliott | it will play the inserted folder in order, then continue with the original shuffeled playlist. |
| 05:46:33 | tpelliott | I think |
| 05:46:52 | earHurts | ah |
| 05:47:21 | earHurts | that's odd |
| 05:48:11 | tpelliott | I'll have to try again to make sure it still behaves that way. |
| 05:48:28 | earHurts | create playlist creates in order (which is good) but plays according to the current shuffle settings |
| 05:48:49 | earHurts | and it seems to be faster too |
| 05:49:05 | earHurts | perhaps seperate code? |
| 05:51:34 | tpelliott | Cool. |
| 05:53:01 | earHurts | what we need, is a playlist browser |
| 05:53:16 | tpelliott | True. |
| 05:53:53 | tpelliott | Could we at least view it in the text viewer? |
| 05:54:11 | earHurts | except rockbox'll play it |
| 05:54:20 | earHurts | view it on your pc |
| 05:55:34 | tpelliott | the current dynamic playlist is different than standard playlists. |
| 05:56:11 | earHurts | how so? |
| 05:58:12 | tpelliott | Look at ".playlist_control" in the .rockbox folder. |
| 05:59:02 | earHurts | I'm in the bathtub at the moment |
| 05:59:17 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 05:59:34 | tpelliott | Typine in the bathtub? |
| 05:59:41 | tpelliott | typing |
| 05:59:54 | earHurts | pda |
| 06:00 |
| 06:00:04 | earHurts | wifi |
| 06:00:10 | tpelliott | Cool. |
| 06:00:18 | earHurts | i like to soak my feet |
| 06:00:48 | earHurts | need to get speakers in here though |
| 06:01:08 | earHurts | pda speaker is too tinny |
| 06:02:03 | tpelliott | Get some good powered speakers. |
| 06:02:11 | earHurts | yeah |
| 06:02:24 | earHurts | now, do I wifi or cable 'em |
| 06:02:32 | earHurts | I thin cable |
| 06:03:00 | earHurts | microwave emissions scare me |
| 06:03:19 | tpelliott | I'm using a pair of older "Bose Roomate II" speakers on my PC. |
| 06:03:57 | tpelliott | Listen and cook your dinner at the same time :) |
| 06:04:18 | earHurts | no, the wifi scares me |
| 06:04:45 | earHurts | even though my pda is broadcating straight through my skull right now |
| 06:06:02 | tpelliott | Each line in the playlist_control file starts out |
| 06:06:08 | tpelliott | P:1:: |
| 06:06:08 | tpelliott | A:0:0:/Jelly |
| 06:06:08 | tpelliott | A:1:1:/Jelly |
| 06:06:08 | tpelliott | A:2:2:/Jelly |
| 06:06:08 | tpelliott | A:3:3:/Jelly |
| 06:06:08 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 06:06:08 | tpelliott | A:4:4:/Jelly |
| 06:06:10 | tpelliott | A:5:5:/Jelly |
| 06:06:13 | tpelliott | A:6:6:/Jelly |
| 06:06:15 | tpelliott | A:7:7:/Jelly |
| 06:06:16 | tpelliott | A:8:8:/Jelly |
| 06:06:18 | tpelliott | A:9:9:/Jelly |
| 06:06:20 | tpelliott | A:10:10:/Jel |
| 06:06:22 | tpelliott | A:11:11:/Jel |
| 06:06:24 | tpelliott | A:12:12:/Jel |
| 06:06:27 | tpelliott | S:28486:0 |
| 06:07:00 | earHurts | he's using Jelly as some sort of padding? |
| 06:07:21 | tpelliott | That's the beginning of my path. |
| 06:07:36 | earHurts | Jelly is a dir? |
| 06:07:43 | tpelliott | Jellyfish...Early '90s band. |
| 06:08:55 | tpelliott | I'm not sure why it is this format instead of a standard playlist. |
| 06:08:56 | earHurts | 1990s? |
| 06:09:15 | tpelliott | Yes. |
| 06:09:16 | earHurts | he might be trying to save space |
| 06:09:34 | earHurts | by not repeating directory names |
| 06:09:48 | earHurts | google on trie |
| 06:10:18 | tpelliott | The directory names are still repeated. I just clipped the beginning. |
| 06:11:02 | tpelliott | The last line is the end of the file. |
| 06:11:42 | earHurts | some sort of sum? |
| 06:12:02 | tpelliott | Not sure. |
| 06:12:32 | earHurts | just guessing |
| 06:12:36 | tpelliott | I don't save dynamic playlists as much as I thaught I would anyway. |
| 06:12:47 | earHurts | why not? |
| 06:13:36 | tpelliott | I just mix things together based on my mood at the moment. |
| 06:13:54 | earHurts | same here |
| 06:14:07 | earHurts | I just want recursive dir play |
| 06:14:36 | tpelliott | play all subfolders? |
| 06:14:59 | tpelliott | I just select the folder and insert. |
| 06:15:30 | tpelliott | If you do this from stop, it will create a new dynamic playlist. |
| 06:16:09 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 06:16:13 | earHurts | yeah |
| 06:16:30 | earHurts | I want to make the play button do it automatically |
| 06:18:20 | tpelliott | I am not sure why we have never been to keep playing past the last file in the directory. I guess it's assumed that nearly all playing will be from a playlist. |
| 06:18:34 | tpelliott | never been able... |
| 06:18:54 | earHurts | what would you play past the last???? |
| 06:19:18 | tpelliott | The next folder |
| 06:19:26 | earHurts | hmm |
| 06:19:40 | earHurts | never ocurred to me |
| 06:19:44 | tpelliott | Like a CD changer. It just keeps playing. |
| 06:19:49 | earHurts | hmm |
| 06:20:13 | earHurts | great idea |
| 06:20:35 | earHurts | less need with dynamic playlists, but great idea |
| 06:20:37 | tpelliott | I think there are problems when we don't use a playlist. |
| 06:22:05 | tpelliott | It would have to read directories in the background. Is that any more complicated than reading a playlist? |
| 06:22:17 | earHurts | i dunno |
| 06:22:42 | earHurts | well, yes, it's more complocated |
| 06:22:49 | earHurts | but not by too much |
| 06:23:17 | tpelliott | Then that's why we do most playing from playlists, I guess. |
| 06:23:56 | earHurts | or nobody thought of it |
| 06:24:08 | earHurts | submit a request for it |
| 06:24:52 | tpelliott | I'm used to using playlists now. |
| 06:25:30 | earHurts | yeah |
| 06:25:58 | tpelliott | Have you ever tried reading the FAT? |
| 06:26:25 | tpelliott | The only tine I've looked at the FAT on a hard drive is for file recovery. |
| 06:26:56 | | Join midknight2k3 [0] (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) |
| 06:27:13 | earHurts | reading the fat? not for years |
| 06:27:18 | midknight2k3 | earHurts tried the flash rockbox? |
| 06:27:23 | earHurts | yup |
| 06:27:30 | midknight2k3 | it works? |
| 06:27:30 | earHurts | works flawlessly |
| 06:27:32 | midknight2k3 | fast? |
| 06:27:35 | earHurts | yup |
| 06:27:45 | midknight2k3 | on the fm to load rockbox from disk takes like 15 seconds |
| 06:27:46 | earHurts | ~4 seconds |
| 06:27:49 | midknight2k3 | now what does it take? |
| 06:27:51 | midknight2k3 | neat o! |
| 06:28:05 | earHurts | about 7 with a rolo |
| 06:28:11 | midknight2k3 | and what fujitsu drive did you put in? |
| 06:28:54 | tpelliott | I started mine in synch with the one in the video. it starts playing when the video ends (About 6 seconds or so. No rolo |
| 06:29:06 | midknight2k3 | video? |
| 06:29:13 | midknight2k3 | where video? |
| 06:29:26 | earHurts | um. the 60 with low noise |
| 06:29:36 | midknight2k3 | 60 with low noise |
| 06:29:59 | earHurts | polly wanna cracker? |
| 06:30:08 | tpelliott | Yes the original video that demonstrates Rockbox in ROM. The infamous 3 second start. |
| 06:30:38 | earHurts | hey, it's compressed video :) |
| 06:30:57 | tpelliott | DivX, I think. |
| 06:31:10 | midknight2k3 | well lol earhurts |
| 06:31:15 | earHurts | compressed video - |
| 06:31:19 | midknight2k3 | all you said before was fujitsu the quite one |
| 06:31:27 | midknight2k3 | that doesn't say size or model or even type |
| 06:31:33 | earHurts | faster |
| 06:31:36 | midknight2k3 | where is the video |
| 06:31:37 | midknight2k3 | :D |
| 06:31:48 | earHurts | joke |
| 06:32:06 | midknight2k3 | video is a joke? |
| 06:32:30 | tpelliott | http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/rockbox_flash_boot.avi |
| 06:32:48 | earHurts | no, "compressed video" joke was, it was compressed so it seemed faster, thus 3 seconds |
| 06:32:54 | tpelliott | Message at http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-07/0151.shtml |
| 06:33:03 | midknight2k3 | oh lolol |
| 06:33:44 | tpelliott | It was faster because the code wasn't finished yet. |
| 06:33:59 | midknight2k3 | cooool |
| 06:34:49 | tpelliott | The unit in the video has a hardware mod. |
| 06:36:06 | earHurts | where's hardeep's playlist? |
| 06:36:31 | tpelliott | ok. |
| 06:36:47 | midknight2k3 | nice quick boot |
| 06:37:29 | tpelliott | The one I clipped from is in .rockbox. |
| 06:37:44 | earHurts | ah. .playlist-control |
| 06:37:54 | midknight2k3 | it's amazing how one guy suggested putting rockbox in rom for faster loading, and now it's a huge breakthrough,a dn all that |
| 06:38:32 | earHurts | yup |
| 06:38:41 | tpelliott | I wander why they haven't mentioned it in the news on the front page? |
| 06:38:43 | midknight2k3 | one end user |
| 06:38:57 | midknight2k3 | and now everyone's like ROMBOX wow it flahses and all that |
| 06:40:26 | midknight2k3 | so wait one question |
| 06:40:36 | midknight2k3 | and please don't tell me to read the manual :) |
| 06:40:46 | tpelliott | I'm just glad we can do it. I just assumed it was impossible. |
| 06:41:06 | midknight2k3 | does the "flash rockbox" look on hard drive immediately for a rockbox instead of archos' delay? |
| 06:41:12 | midknight2k3 | tpelliot: me too |
| 06:41:22 | midknight2k3 | i though, hah! rewrite the flash! in your dreams |
| 06:41:44 | | Quit Schnueff_ (Remote closed the connection) |
| 06:42:19 | tpelliott | I still looks for the file ajbrec.ajz |
| 06:42:25 | | Join Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) |
| 06:42:35 | tpelliott | or something like that. |
| 06:42:38 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 06:42:42 | midknight2k3 | :D |
| 06:42:59 | earHurts | it does it much faster than archos |
| 06:43:13 | midknight2k3 | i know what could be even quicker |
| 06:43:17 | earHurts | rolo boot is "~7 |
| 06:43:47 | tpelliott | You don't need to rolo to start rockbox so there's no need for that file. |
| 06:44:02 | midknight2k3 | just make a directory .rockbox\flash and put in the flash rewriter and a AJZ file and it will write that file in there to ROM and it will NOT spinup hard drive to look for ajz files ever |
| 06:44:26 | earHurts | timed it. |
| 06:44:32 | earHurts | 10 secs |
| 06:45:07 | tpelliott | No need to read a file into rom every time. |
| 06:45:20 | midknight2k3 | NONONO |
| 06:45:26 | midknight2k3 | only if you want to upgrade it |
| 06:45:32 | midknight2k3 | then you run it with new ajz file |
| 06:46:03 | earHurts | eventually, rombox won't even look for a file to auto rolo |
| 06:46:29 | tpelliott | You can't load an ajz file. You have to descramble it, then compress it to rockbox.ucl |
| 06:46:37 | midknight2k3 | whatever |
| 06:47:10 | earHurts | you could put descrambled images on disk |
| 06:47:33 | earHurts | scrambling was only ever to satisfy the archos loader |
| 06:47:46 | earHurts | skip the descramble step |
| 06:47:48 | tpelliott | ok. |
| 06:48:20 | tpelliott | You still want the compression. |
| 06:48:28 | earHurts | sure |
| 06:48:41 | earHurts | but only if I want to flash it |
| 06:48:57 | earHurts | for rolo I want unscrambled, uncompressed |
| 06:49:31 | tpelliott | True. |
| 06:49:52 | earHurts | and I get a slightly faster rolo |
| 06:50:21 | tpelliott | The goal is to not rolo at all. |
| 06:50:34 | earHurts | well, no |
| 06:50:41 | midknight2k3 | yes earhurts |
| 06:50:47 | earHurts | I still want to rolo my dev builds |
| 06:50:54 | midknight2k3 | the goal i think is to run rockbox fully from flash so there is near no loading time |
| 06:51:04 | midknight2k3 | you CAN but that's not what's INTENDED |
| 06:51:29 | earHurts | it would be a pita to flash every dev build |
| 06:51:58 | midknight2k3 | uhm |
| 06:52:05 | midknight2k3 | you can rolo i presume |
| 06:52:12 | tpelliott | It's easy to flash daily builds if you want. It's manual instead of automatic. |
| 06:52:13 | midknight2k3 | but i repeat it's not what is intended |
| 06:52:32 | earHurts | we have different needs |
| 06:52:39 | earHurts | I'm a hacker |
| 06:52:42 | tpelliott | You can rolo but they are going to take out the auto-rolo |
| 06:53:12 | earHurts | yeah, I,m ok with auto rolo going away |
| 06:53:19 | tpelliott | I'm a hacker wannabe :) |
| 06:53:31 | midknight2k3 | i'm not and i don't care :) |
| 06:53:43 | earHurts | I might want a swtting, though |
| 06:54:26 | earHurts | midk, without hackers, who gives you features? |
| 06:54:32 | tpelliott | I just flash daily builds and I feel like a hacker :) |
| 06:54:37 | midknight2k3 | erm |
| 06:54:41 | midknight2k3 | i didnt mean that |
| 06:54:44 | midknight2k3 | :P |
| 06:54:53 | earHurts | tp, that's cause it's still bleedibg edge |
| 06:56:08 | midknight2k3 | BYE THEN |
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| 06:56:51 | earHurts | I'm mean? |
| 06:56:54 | midknight2k3 | MY EAR HURTS! BOO HOO! |
| 06:56:56 | | Quit midknight2k3 (Client Quit) |
| 06:57:02 | | Join midknight2k3 [0] (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) |
| 06:57:10 | midknight2k3 | it hurts really bad - bye |
| 06:57:14 | midknight2k3 | :) |
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| 06:59:11 | tpelliott | Does the FM play through a reciever's spdif digital input? |
| 07:00 |
| 07:03:33 | thu | I don't think the FM has digital i/o |
| 07:03:39 | thu | I might be wrong though |
| 07:03:40 | earHurts | fm doesn't have digital out |
| 07:03:58 | earHurts | thu, want to help me test emusic? |
| 07:04:03 | thu | mmkay |
| 07:04:21 | thu | what do you have in mind? |
| 07:04:25 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 07:04:25 | * | thu playing with QNX |
| 07:04:46 | earHurts | tpe wants to know if they have digital sigs |
| 07:05:07 | earHurts | so we both d/l the same track, and md5 sum it |
| 07:05:18 | thu | hmm |
| 07:05:19 | thu | done |
| 07:05:23 | thu | what track? |
| 07:05:28 | tpelliott | I'm sure if they are posted in newsgroups, they can tell the file came from emusic. |
| 07:05:47 | earHurts | oh, probably |
| 07:05:53 | thu | tpelliott: that's not a problem as long as it doesn't say it came from me |
| 07:06:03 | tpelliott | True. |
| 07:06:13 | thu | tpelliott: they have my CC details and all.. I don't want them angry :) |
| 07:06:35 | tpelliott | There may a code tied to your account. |
| 07:06:43 | thu | okay let's see |
| 07:06:50 | thu | earHurts: what traaaack? |
| 07:06:57 | earHurts | there is a UFID tag |
| 07:07:29 | earHurts | artist: otto klemperer |
| 07:07:54 | earHurts | wagner lohrngrin |
| 07:07:57 | tpelliott | It sucks that the FM dosen't have a digital out. Mu recorder sounds great through my reciever. |
| 07:08:02 | earHurts | track one |
| 07:08:03 | tpelliott | my |
| 07:08:17 | earHurts | it sucks they advertise that it does |
| 07:08:32 | tpelliott | Yes. |
| 07:10:32 | | Quit thu (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 07:10:39 | tpelliott | The recorder has a single stereo mini jack. One side is for input, the other side is for output. |
| 07:11:27 | | Join thu [0] (~thu@h24-87-64-169.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 07:11:31 | earHurts | at least the fm is lighter |
| 07:11:57 | tpelliott | Do you use the fm tuner? |
| 07:12:03 | thu | mm wrong button |
| 07:12:17 | * | thu stretched and hit the power bar button |
| 07:12:47 | thu | earHurts: so is there an user id tag in the emusic mp3s or not? |
| 07:13:21 | earHurts | what md5 did you get? |
| 07:13:31 | thu | what track? |
| 07:13:39 | tpelliott | It probably wouldn't be a regular tag. Too easy to delete. |
| 07:14:08 | thu | earHurts: what traaaack? |
| 07:14:17 | thu | :-\ |
| 07:14:37 | earHurts | sec |
| 07:15:15 | thu | ... |
| 07:15:38 | earHurts | www.emusic.com/cd/10786/10786579.html |
| 07:15:49 | earHurts | first track |
| 07:15:52 | thu | k |
| 07:16:03 | earHurts | atto primo: preludio |
| 07:16:21 | thu | downloading |
| 07:17:41 | earHurts | the techical quality suxors |
| 07:17:49 | thu | that otto guy looks borgish |
| 07:17:59 | earHurts | definitely recorded before a live audience |
| 07:18:10 | thu | ab791f2bf1cc2e64616f5135d652cb91 01 - Atto Primo: Preludio.mp3 |
| 07:18:13 | earHurts | german |
| 07:18:19 | thu | paste yer sum |
| 07:18:58 | earHurts | they're the same |
| 07:19:08 | thu | you sure? |
| 07:19:08 | earHurts | I checked by eye |
| 07:19:12 | earHurts | yeah |
| 07:19:14 | thu | paste |
| 07:19:19 | earHurts | read the whole thing |
| 07:19:40 | earHurts | it's on my computer. I can't paste it |
| 07:20:00 | earHurts | I irc on my handheld |
| 07:20:08 | thu | weird |
| 07:20:14 | thu | why would you do that? |
| 07:20:30 | thu | I did that too but only when I didn't have a choice |
| 07:20:32 | earHurts | gaim ain't stable on w2k |
| 07:20:45 | earHurts | anyway, I prefer it |
| 07:20:46 | thu | what do you need gaim for? |
| 07:20:58 | earHurts | mirc costs money |
| 07:21:01 | thu | xchat.org |
| 07:21:08 | earHurts | yeah? |
| 07:21:09 | thu | the windows client works just fine |
| 07:21:18 | earHurts | I like my handheld |
| 07:21:24 | tpelliott | I'm usint Trillian. |
| 07:21:34 | tpelliott | uaing |
| 07:21:34 | thu | don't like trillian |
| 07:21:35 | earHurts | I irc from the bathtub |
| 07:21:44 | thu | hehe |
| 07:22:00 | earHurts | I like to soak my feet |
| 07:22:03 | thu | a waterproof tablet would be good for that |
| 07:22:43 | thu | I was looking at this rugged laptop on ebay |
| 07:22:49 | earHurts | I lost the bottom two pixel lines of a palm pilot once |
| 07:22:55 | earHurts | toilet |
| 07:22:58 | thu | p133 64ram 2G drive |
| 07:23:03 | thu | for something like $30 |
| 07:23:07 | thu | you can drive a truck over it |
| 07:23:22 | earHurts | waterprrof? |
| 07:23:26 | thu | possibly |
| 07:23:29 | thu | some are |
| 07:23:33 | thu | but more like splash proof |
| 07:24:17 | earHurts | if it's waterproof that little hole of the hdd that says 'do not cover' is covered |
| 07:24:30 | earHurts | so no taking it onna airplane |
| 07:24:42 | thu | how come? |
| 07:24:52 | thu | what hole and how can they know? |
| 07:25:01 | earHurts | the hole's to equalize air pressure |
| 07:25:09 | thu | mm I see |
| 07:25:49 | PsycoXul | to equalize air pressure from where? |
| 07:26:01 | PsycoXul | or between where rathr |
| 07:26:06 | PsycoXul | rather rather |
| 07:26:23 | tpelliott | How old are you guys (Just curious)? I'm 39. |
| 07:26:31 | earHurts | inside the drive and outside |
| 07:26:33 | PsycoXul | i'm 22 |
| 07:26:39 | PsycoXul | earHurts: which outside? |
| 07:26:43 | earHurts | 34, |
| 07:26:44 | PsycoXul | just outside the drive? |
| 07:26:52 | PsycoXul | or outside the whole unit the drive is in? |
| 07:26:55 | earHurts | yeah |
| 07:26:58 | earHurts | the drive |
| 07:27:08 | PsycoXul | so the unit could still be sealed, couldn't it? |
| 07:27:40 | earHurts | yeah, if it wouldn't buckle when thje outside pressure dropped |
| 07:28:03 | PsycoXul | ah, well yeah |
| 07:28:03 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 07:28:12 | earHurts | tpe's /old/ |
| 07:28:31 | earHurts | feels good not to be the oldest! |
| 07:28:43 | thu | mm ebay looks good today |
| 07:28:45 | thu | lotsa cheap stuff |
| 07:29:04 | earHurts | I just spent $48 on old cds |
| 07:29:22 | tpelliott | Who's the oldest of the main Rockbox programmers? |
| 07:29:23 | thu | scsi storage array with 10 18G 10k rpm drives |
| 07:29:31 | thu | < $200 |
| 07:29:37 | earHurts | dunno' tpe |
| 07:30:04 | earHurts | anybody like gilbert & sullivan? |
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| 07:30:27 | midknight2k3 | :D |
| 07:31:13 | tpelliott | Not me. I'm listening to the Beatles. I'm sure you guys think their music is too old. |
| 07:31:27 | midknight2k3 | Yes, ma'am |
| 07:31:31 | earHurts | beatles were cool |
| 07:31:43 | earHurts | until they got into the drugs |
| 07:32:01 | midknight2k3 | earHurts was cool |
| 07:32:04 | midknight2k3 | until he got mean |
| 07:32:08 | earHurts | oh, that was ny driving instructor's opinion |
| 07:32:17 | tpelliott | John wrote some of his best wierd lyrics on drugs. |
| 07:32:18 | earHurts | no, I like the beatles |
| 07:32:35 | earHurts | John was a great lyricist |
| 07:32:48 | earHurts | but I'm more a Bob Dylan fan |
| 07:33:00 | earHurts | Arlo Githrie, Woody |
| 07:33:05 | earHurts | Phil Ochs |
| 07:33:11 | earHurts | hippie shit |
| 07:33:17 | tpelliott | I like Dylan best when someone else sings his songs. |
| 07:33:24 | earHurts | oh, no |
| 07:33:38 | earHurts | Dylan sings feom his soul, maaan |
| 07:33:46 | tpelliott | True. |
| 07:33:57 | earHurts | I also like opera |
| 07:34:21 | earHurts | wagner and g&s, mostly |
| 07:34:27 | tpelliott | I don't like opera. I like some jazz and classical. |
| 07:34:44 | earHurts | yeah, jazz is cool |
| 07:34:52 | earHurts | I prefer older jazz |
| 07:35:25 | earHurts | experimental jazz is techically profficient, but it doesn't move me |
| 07:35:30 | tpelliott | Vocal jazz like Lambert, Hendricks and Ross or Ella? |
| 07:35:46 | earHurts | ella, duke, big band |
| 07:35:55 | tpelliott | Cool. |
| 07:36:12 | earHurts | check out what emusic has in jazz |
| 07:36:30 | midknight2k3 | *sigh* |
| 07:36:55 | earHurts | a college bought some monk box set on ebay for $150 |
| 07:37:07 | earHurts | @9((3%3/9((3!%73 |
| 07:37:16 | earHurts | s/college/colleague |
| 07:37:30 | earHurts | it was on emusic for nothing |
| 07:38:10 | tpelliott | There was a short time in the early 1990's when a |
| 07:38:30 | tpelliott | gregorian chant album was on the pop charts. |
| 07:38:55 | earHurts | can be relaxing |
| 07:39:11 | midknight2k3 | must i interfere? |
| 07:39:45 | earHurts | what up midk? |
| 07:40:01 | midknight2k3 | this is rockbox chat not emusic and beatles chat |
| 07:40:12 | midknight2k3 | if you wanna do that could your private chat? |
| 07:40:39 | earHurts | are we preventing you from rockbox chatting, midk? |
| 07:40:40 | tpelliott | I'm going to bed anyway. |
| 07:41:09 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 07:41:11 | midknight2k3 | sorry jeez |
| 07:41:13 | midknight2k3 | bye |
| 07:41:30 | earHurts | night tpe |
| 07:41:36 | tpelliott | Good night. |
| 07:41:42 | | Part tpelliott |
| 07:46:45 | midknight2k3 | and it's silent |
| 07:46:59 | midknight2k3 | it's also obvious that earHurts dislikes midknight2k3 |
| 07:47:02 | midknight2k3 | my /me |
| 07:47:07 | midknight2k3 | never mind that last thing |
| 07:48:51 | earHurts | midk, what's gotten into you? |
| 07:49:04 | midknight2k3 | lol what? |
| 07:49:47 | earHurts | I don't dislike you. Were you being serious about my being mean to you?? |
| 07:50:06 | midknight2k3 | no! |
| 07:50:11 | midknight2k3 | earHurts is very nice |
| 07:50:50 | earHurts | why do I worry you're going to start talking about your precious ring? |
| 07:51:08 | midknight2k3 | i have no idea. |
| 07:51:10 | midknight2k3 | :D |
| 07:51:37 | earHurts | you're sounding like the Gollum in Lord of the Rings |
| 07:52:11 | midknight2k3 | i know lol |
| 07:52:16 | midknight2k3 | ok let's start over. |
| 07:52:18 | earHurts | it's my sidekick Samwise Gamgee who dislikes you. |
| 07:52:22 | midknight2k3 | "Hello earHurts!" |
| 07:52:23 | earHurts | :) |
| 07:52:47 | earHurts | we just have differing uses for rolo |
| 07:53:08 | midknight2k3 | i agree |
| 07:53:09 | earHurts | I like to test my code on the rockbox, you don't need to test code |
| 07:53:13 | midknight2k3 | okok |
| 07:53:19 | midknight2k3 | not yet ;) |
| 07:53:23 | midknight2k3 | i will learn c soon |
| 07:53:26 | midknight2k3 | i promised zagger |
| 07:53:40 | earHurts | I'll be glad to help you with it |
| 07:54:13 | midknight2k3 | yay! |
| 07:55:06 | earHurts | download cygwin first |
| 07:55:08 | midknight2k3 | what did you learn? |
| 07:55:11 | midknight2k3 | you mean now? |
| 07:55:14 | midknight2k3 | i know nothing yet |
| 07:55:18 | midknight2k3 | well not much |
| 07:55:57 | earHurts | I learned c++ first |
| 07:56:18 | midknight2k3 | well c++ is c with extra crap right? |
| 07:59:18 | earHurts | uh, yeah |
| 07:59:21 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 07:59:33 | midknight2k3 | well c wouldn't be hard after that right? |
| 07:59:34 | midknight2k3 | :) |
| 08:00 |
| 08:00:02 | earHurts | more or less |
| 08:00:29 | midknight2k3 | when dod you learn c++ then? |
| 08:00:40 | earHurts | actually, there are some C things you get out of practice with, becuase you'd never do them in c++ |
| 08:00:59 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 08:01:19 | earHurts | I took a uni class |
| 08:01:27 | thu | I don't like it that they teach c++ or java to people who have never programmed before |
| 08:01:38 | earHurts | actually, the besat c++ intro was a class for nonCS majors |
| 08:01:39 | thu | it's harder to go back to C imho |
| 08:01:42 | earHurts | good teacher |
| 08:01:58 | * | thu took the nice way around |
| 08:02:04 | midknight2k3 | :D |
| 08:02:07 | earHurts | C is harder in some ways |
| 08:02:14 | thu | spectrum basic -> qbasic -> visual basic -> pascal -> C -> C++ -> java |
| 08:02:39 | thu | with various scripting languages along the way that I've never mastered |
| 08:04:15 | midknight2k3 | i'll be back in a few mins ok |
| 08:04:17 | earHurts | just try to learn C |
| 08:04:24 | earHurts | I'm to bed |
| 08:04:24 | midknight2k3 | yes hang a few tho |
| 08:04:28 | midknight2k3 | oh well |
| 08:04:30 | midknight2k3 | maybe later |
| 08:04:32 | midknight2k3 | good night earhurts |
| 08:04:35 | earHurts | later |
| 08:04:37 | midknight2k3 | sorry about the mean remark |
| 08:04:42 | earHurts | np |
| 08:04:47 | earHurts | night |
| 08:04:49 | midknight2k3 | night |
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| 09:40:57 | bobTHC | hi all! |
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| 09:47:27 | Lynx0 | hi |
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| 09:57:54 | adi|home | howdy |
| 09:57:57 | adi|home | hows life? |
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| 10:03:06 | bobTHC | 1 |
| 10:10:04 | dwihno | neato |
| 10:12:32 | dwihno | ROMBOX! |
| 10:12:38 | dwihno | ROMBOX ROMBOX ROMBOX! |
| 10:22:53 | dwihno | ROMBOX 4-ever! |
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| 10:33:52 | tracktheripper | Morning |
| 10:33:59 | bobTHC | morning |
| 10:34:33 | tracktheripper | morning BobTHC |
| 10:34:36 | tracktheripper | whats the latest? |
| 10:35:14 | bobTHC | rombox for FM |
| 10:35:24 | tracktheripper | oh right |
| 10:35:35 | tracktheripper | i don't understand all this flashing nonsense |
| 10:35:37 | tracktheripper | :-( |
| 10:36:43 | bobTHC | boot speed is the only advantage |
| 10:37:18 | bobTHC | kicking out the achos code from rom too |
| 10:37:52 | tracktheripper | yea but what if you "need" the archos firmware one day? |
| 10:38:51 | bobTHC | it is always in, backuped in an another memory space, when u press F1 you always can use it |
| 10:39:19 | tracktheripper | oh right |
| 10:39:30 | tracktheripper | i have an older Recorder 10 so i don't think it will work on mine :( |
| 10:39:30 | Lynx0 | The only thing that keeps me from flashing is the 2 year warranty I still have on it |
| 10:39:36 | tracktheripper | oh right |
| 10:39:49 | tracktheripper | I wonder if the Archos team know about Rockbox? |
| 10:40:20 | Lynx0 | I'm sure they do. |
| 10:40:22 | bobTHC | it's sure they know us |
| 10:40:37 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 10:40:49 | tracktheripper | in that case why don't they supply their machines with Rockbox? |
| 10:41:06 | bobTHC | they ask the permission to bjorn to include rockbox in the driver cd for the studio |
| 10:41:07 | Lynx0 | They probably run rockbox on their private recorders ;-) |
| 10:41:33 | tracktheripper | oh riight |
| 10:41:52 | tracktheripper | All Rockbox needs is better recording management and playlist creating then it will be spot on :-) |
| 10:42:50 | Lynx0 | It can create playlists |
| 10:44:18 | tracktheripper | yea but it can't re-arrange entries like the archos firmware |
| 10:45:32 | adi|home | track... |
| 10:45:39 | adi|home | i say this with love in my heart... |
| 10:45:50 | adi|home | if you don't stop putting in some of the feature requests that you do.. |
| 10:45:57 | adi|home | im going to hunt you down and kill you. |
| 10:46:56 | tracktheripper | :-| |
| 10:47:14 | tracktheripper | yea? |
| 10:47:39 | tracktheripper | like what? |
| 10:48:29 | tracktheripper | hello?? |
| 10:48:46 | PsycoXul | i've got a feature request |
| 10:49:16 | PsycoXul | rockbox needs a relativistic space-drive powered by quantum zero-point fluctuations (may require HW mod) |
| 10:49:36 | tracktheripper | adi??? |
| 10:50:44 | tracktheripper | adimas are u very upset now?! |
| 10:55:47 | adi|home | no... just researching in another window... |
| 10:56:23 | tracktheripper | ohhhh right |
| 10:56:27 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 10:56:31 | tracktheripper | come and visit London |
| 10:56:37 | PsycoXul | geez |
| 10:56:48 | PsycoXul | am i the only one in here interested in exploring the universe? |
| 10:56:57 | Lynx0 | Nobody can afford a visit to London... |
| 10:57:15 | tracktheripper | well im sure Adimas is a rich man |
| 10:57:18 | PsycoXul | heh i must be |
| 10:57:38 | adi|home | track.. im so broke that im borrowing $ from friends to pay my rent |
| 10:57:43 | Lynx0 | PsycoXul: It's probably cheaper than London |
| 10:57:46 | tracktheripper | awwwww |
| 10:57:53 | PsycoXul | Lynx0: if done right, it should be |
| 10:57:56 | tracktheripper | What requests are you on about now Adi?! |
| 10:58:08 | Lynx0 | PsycoXul: Especially if it's open-source |
| 10:58:30 | PsycoXul | if you actualy power it from the zero-point fluctuations then in a sense it'd be "free", or nearly so |
| 10:59:35 | Lynx0 | PsycoXul: I already forgot everything I never knew about quantum mechanics |
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| 11:00:05 | PsycoXul | Lynx0: hey thats ok, i've got no formal education on anything past 9th grade |
| 11:00:24 | tracktheripper | Adimas I rent out rooms you can have one if u like |
| 11:01:07 | Lynx0 | PsycoXul: I'm sitting in a Lab right now... |
| 11:01:24 | PsycoXul | Lynx0: oh yeah? |
| 11:01:33 | PsycoXul | what sort of lab? |
| 11:02:03 | Lynx0 | genetics |
| 11:02:10 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 11:02:32 | tracktheripper | Adimas im off 2 work now |
| 11:02:40 | tracktheripper | have a nice day :-) |
| 11:03:02 | tracktheripper | (-: |
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| 12:32:12 | adi|home | anyone know any sites with flash in them? |
| 12:32:17 | adi|home | i need to test my plugin |
| 12:39:31 | Lynx0 | macromedia.com? |
| 12:40:38 | adi|home | something wrong.. can't get the plugin working... |
| 12:40:47 | adi|home | opera... hmm |
| 12:44:54 | Lynx0 | works fine for me, even without installing anything |
| 12:46:51 | Lynx0 | may have had flash installed before i got opera, though |
| 12:54:32 | adi|home | nope.. i don't have motiff installed.. thats wahy... |
| 12:54:35 | adi|home | fixing it now... |
| 12:55:08 | adi|home | im willing to bet you ahve libXm.so.2 on your system right? |
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| 13:47:19 | Lynx0 | no, windows... |
| 13:48:58 | adi|home | hehe okay.. then nm ;) |
| 13:50:46 | Lynx0 | It's not my fault! I have to! ;) |
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| 16:31:25 | machtenx | hey guys, i was wondering is there ever gonna be compatibility with the multimedia jukeboxs? |
| 16:32:12 | Hes | machtenx: no. |
| 16:32:27 | machtenx | any reason why? |
| 16:32:28 | Hes | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/nodo.html |
| 16:32:35 | Hes | it's a different machine. |
| 16:32:54 | machtenx | ahhh sorry, reading |
| 16:33:20 | Hes | It's a mostly different project, not much code can be reused. |
| 16:34:04 | machtenx | i see...i think i'll get the fm recorder then...rockbox looks cool |
| 16:35:25 | Hes | rockbox is a lot of fun. |
| 16:36:52 | machtenx | do you have any idea if it would work with the 15 gigabyte minijukebox? |
| 16:37:46 | Hes | I don't know, I guess that is a new product. I think someone just mentioned it on the mailing list, check the archives, I didn't read it carefully. |
| 16:37:55 | Hes | I have a recorder 20. |
| 16:38:10 | Hes | I have to run to a practicing session, bye! |
| 16:38:23 | machtenx | ok thanks! later |
| 16:39:30 | Lynx0 | What's mini about it anyway? |
| 16:40:12 | machtenx | want a link? I saw it on outpost.com for a good price that's the only reason i was interested |
| 16:40:35 | machtenx | doesn't provide that detailed specs but http://shop1.outpost.com/product/3699265/# |
| 16:42:22 | Lynx0 | I wonder how they make it any smaller |
| 16:43:31 | machtenx | I think it's the same..what are the dimensions on the others? this one is 4.5x3.2x1.3 |
| 16:43:54 | Lynx0 | I don't know... |
| 16:44:02 | Lynx0 | what's that in cm? |
| 16:45:30 | machtenx | hmmm one sec |
| 16:45:31 | bobTHC | Uses 4 "AA" Rechargeable NiCads (included) |
| 16:45:31 | bobTHC | he can't be smaller, it'sthe same |
| 16:45:53 | Lynx0 | 115 x 82 x 34 mm is the recorde 20 gb |
| 16:46:25 | bobTHC | the description is full of mistakes |
| 16:46:44 | bobTHC | put the product is really cheap |
| 16:46:45 | machtenx | 11.4x8.1x3.3 |
| 16:46:46 | bobTHC | ;) |
| 16:46:47 | machtenx | cm |
| 16:46:51 | machtenx | yes it is :D |
| 16:46:56 | machtenx | dirt cheap |
| 16:47:07 | machtenx | i am so tempted |
| 16:47:13 | bobTHC | Available for Preorder Not available for export. |
| 16:47:34 | bobTHC | i cant buy it i'm disgusted |
| 16:47:44 | machtenx | I think you can |
| 16:47:49 | bobTHC | ? |
| 16:47:52 | machtenx | unless you're in another country |
| 16:47:58 | machtenx | ? |
| 16:48:06 | bobTHC | i'm french :( |
| 16:48:14 | machtenx | ahhhh :( |
| 16:48:29 | Lynx0 | How can i keep windows from creating all the system folder on the archos? I remember a thread on the mailing list but can't find it now... |
| 16:52:16 | bobTHC | ? |
| 16:52:36 | Lynx0 | like the 'Recycled' folder and such |
| 16:52:40 | bobTHC | u want to creat .rockbox directory under win32 |
| 16:52:47 | bobTHC | ? |
| 16:53:20 | Lynx0 | ?? |
| 16:53:39 | Lynx0 | no, windows creates some directories on the archos when you plug it in. |
| 16:53:44 | bobTHC | u cannot avoid winNT to creating his dirty dirs |
| 16:54:22 | Lynx0 | I remember a mail on the list that said how to do it, with the tweak ui thing... |
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| 17:04:11 | Lynx0 | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-05/0440.shtml |
| 17:04:13 | Lynx0 | found it |
| 17:05:08 | Lynx0 | bye |
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| 17:14:34 | manitee | hi folks - been a while since i irc'ed here, but i wanted to drop in and say v2.0 is great - no problems at all so far |
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| 20:31:52 | midknight2k3 | hello |
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| 21:00:25 | midknight2k3 | VERY lively in here, no? |
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| 21:03:46 | freshmaker | Hi there! |
| 21:03:53 | midknight2k3 | hey! |
| 21:03:57 | midknight2k3 | somebody's here! |
| 21:04:02 | midknight2k3 | and tpelliot! |
| 21:04:06 | midknight2k3 | both at the same time! |
| 21:04:09 | midknight2k3 | :) |
| 21:04:32 | freshmaker | i wish there would be someone at sf.net, too |
| 21:04:47 | midknight2k3 | :D |
| 21:04:57 | freshmaker | their pserver cvs server is more than two days behind |
| 21:04:59 | midknight2k3 | who'd buy this? http://staples.com/Catalog/Browse/sku.asp?PageType=1&Sku=IM1189002&bcFlag=True&bcSCatId=3&bcSCatName=Technology&bcCatId=18&bcCatName=Computer+Peripherals&bcDeptId=1431&bcDeptName=Mice+%26+Keyboards&bcClassId=141981&bcClassName=Corded+Keyboards |
| 21:05:20 | midknight2k3 | it's ugly and it's $137 |
| 21:05:28 | midknight2k3 | check that, 137.99 |
| 21:06:50 | freshmaker | can't get the url |
| 21:07:10 | midknight2k3 | well it's VERY UGLY keyboard |
| 21:07:14 | midknight2k3 | for $137 |
| 21:07:19 | midknight2k3 | just dowble click it |
| 21:07:25 | midknight2k3 | it should go |
| 21:07:34 | freshmaker | everything with mor than 60 keys makes me afraid |
| 21:07:42 | midknight2k3 | i bet :D |
| 21:08:04 | freshmaker | got one of the older happy hacking keyboards |
| 21:08:14 | midknight2k3 | with how many keys? |
| 21:08:22 | freshmaker | 60 ;-) |
| 21:08:28 | midknight2k3 | crap |
| 21:08:38 | midknight2k3 | i had the key alert message already typed out :) |
| 21:10:34 | midknight2k3 | who's bored? |
| 21:10:42 | midknight2k3 | since earHurts isn't here, it's dead! |
| 21:12:03 | tpelliott | I used to see mice with buttons all over the top. |
| 21:12:17 | midknight2k3 | you did? |
| 21:12:27 | tpelliott | I'm on vacation this week. |
| 21:12:53 | midknight2k3 | yay! |
| 21:13:17 | tpelliott | I can't believe how cheap cordless optical mice are getting. |
| 21:13:48 | midknight2k3 | yes it's amazing? |
| 21:14:02 | midknight2k3 | take into consideration the Microsoft Cordless Blue Optical Mouse |
| 21:14:16 | midknight2k3 | just think... 5 years ago there were only 2 button corded mouse-ball ones |
| 21:14:30 | midknight2k3 | in 2006 i predict there will be blu-ray mice :D |
| 21:14:57 | midknight2k3 | with 5 sensors for accuracy of a ... something that's extremely accurate |
| 21:15:30 | tpelliott | I have the older Logitech cordless duo. I love the new Logitech cordless mouse with a charger stand. |
| 21:16:00 | midknight2k3 | cordless duo, my favorite |
| 21:16:10 | midknight2k3 | the one that's black and it's got the wheel at the top center? |
| 21:16:17 | tpelliott | Is that what yopu have? |
| 21:16:21 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 21:16:35 | midknight2k3 | today i should be getting a microsoft natural multimedia keyboard |
| 21:16:41 | midknight2k3 | why can't they just give them model numbes? |
| 21:16:47 | midknight2k3 | it's so hard to remember the terms |
| 21:17:02 | tpelliott | Yes. Mine has function keys that ARE function keys. |
| 21:17:12 | midknight2k3 | er? |
| 21:17:17 | midknight2k3 | the wheel one? |
| 21:17:45 | midknight2k3 | the logitech elite keyboard also looks nice though |
| 21:17:52 | midknight2k3 | i am considering it |
| 21:17:58 | tpelliott | The new version has extra functions on the function keys. You have to press a button to get your regular function keys back. |
| 21:18:35 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 21:18:58 | midknight2k3 | actually, you press a button to enable the functions on them (extra) otherwise it is normal f keys |
| 21:19:06 | midknight2k3 | not the other way around |
| 21:19:25 | tpelliott | The new version is the same price as mine $100. I got mine on sale $20 cheaper. |
| 21:19:43 | midknight2k3 | which version? |
| 21:19:51 | midknight2k3 | im confused now :\ |
| 21:20:01 | midknight2k3 | the logitech duo thing |
| 21:20:04 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 21:20:13 | tpelliott | Mine is the original. |
| 21:20:29 | midknight2k3 | the new elite one is new though |
| 21:20:34 | midknight2k3 | the neat one |
| 21:20:38 | midknight2k3 | with the whooel |
| 21:20:44 | midknight2k3 | WHELL |
| 21:20:48 | midknight2k3 | grrrr! |
| 21:20:53 | midknight2k3 | W-H-E-E-L |
| 21:20:59 | midknight2k3 | i spelled it! yay! |
| 21:21:13 | tpelliott | A friend of mine wanted to press F8 to agree to Microsoft's agreement. and he had to press an extra button. Must be a toggle. |
| 21:21:38 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 21:21:55 | midknight2k3 | maybe before hand it had been specified to use extra f's |
| 21:22:05 | tpelliott | Mine is black, with the wheel but WITHOUT the extra functions of the function keys. |
| 21:22:11 | midknight2k3 | normally it should use the regualr F keys |
| 21:22:17 | midknight2k3 | ...right :) |
| 21:23:17 | tpelliott | Do you have a working, flashed FM? |
| 21:23:30 | midknight2k3 | not I. |
| 21:23:35 | midknight2k3 | im doing it later today |
| 21:23:40 | midknight2k3 | you do it yet? |
| 21:23:46 | tpelliott | Did you see the new warning? |
| 21:23:50 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 21:23:51 | midknight2k3 | what is it? |
| 21:23:54 | midknight2k3 | uh oh |
| 21:24:06 | tpelliott | Check your harware mask. |
| 21:24:18 | midknight2k3 | for? |
| 21:24:23 | midknight2k3 | where is this warning located? |
| 21:24:27 | tpelliott | Read the latest posts. |
| 21:24:35 | midknight2k3 | on the mailing list? |
| 21:24:42 | tpelliott | Yes. |
| 21:25:08 | midknight2k3 | oh jeez |
| 21:25:12 | midknight2k3 | you can't miss it lol |
| 21:25:30 | tpelliott | Mine flashed with no problem. I've been flashing daily builds too. I have a Recorder 20 |
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| 21:26:06 | tracktheripper | hello |
| 21:26:07 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 21:26:20 | tpelliott | We are talking about the new FM warning. |
| 21:26:28 | tracktheripper | hello midknight |
| 21:26:29 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 21:26:32 | midknight2k3 | tracktheripper |
| 21:26:35 | midknight2k3 | is mean! |
| 21:26:36 | tracktheripper | hi mate! |
| 21:26:45 | tracktheripper | what do u mean im mean?! |
| 21:26:49 | midknight2k3 | he called me something mean |
| 21:26:53 | tracktheripper | gonna put dinner on brb |
| 21:26:55 | midknight2k3 | when i put in my bogus request |
| 21:27:27 | midknight2k3 | i hope mine doesn't have that new hardware mask |
| 21:27:34 | midknight2k3 | if it does, i'd be yelling |
| 21:27:49 | midknight2k3 | come back at like 4:00 to watch me yell about the dumb mask |
| 21:27:52 | tpelliott | Can't you check the debug info? |
| 21:27:59 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 21:28:01 | midknight2k3 | i will later |
| 21:28:17 | midknight2k3 | and if it has that i will be angry |
| 21:28:23 | midknight2k3 | come back in 4 hours to see :D |
| 21:28:53 | tpelliott | Can you solder well enough to do the hardware mod if you have to? |
| 21:29:22 | midknight2k3 | let's not think about that yet :) |
| 21:29:57 | tpelliott | I have you to open mine for the first time. |
| 21:30:05 | tpelliott | yet |
| 21:30:15 | midknight2k3 | i tried a while back |
| 21:30:21 | midknight2k3 | (fm recorder) |
| 21:30:27 | midknight2k3 | i didn't figure it out |
| 21:30:41 | midknight2k3 | it would be easy if i tried but i just took out some screws and nothing happened |
| 21:31:17 | tpelliott | The 4 star screwes? |
| 21:31:30 | midknight2k3 | i think i just didn't get the bottom one out |
| 21:31:31 | tracktheripper | Midknight is this a reasonable request? |
| 21:31:32 | tracktheripper | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439121&aid=771276 |
| 21:31:39 | midknight2k3 | i suppose yes |
| 21:31:58 | midknight2k3 | TOO reasonable |
| 21:32:00 | midknight2k3 | you crapper |
| 21:32:03 | midknight2k3 | :) |
| 21:32:07 | midknight2k3 | make a new one, i did |
| 21:32:14 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 21:33:05 | tracktheripper | lol ur request got the usual "This is not possible to implement, due to hardware limitations" response |
| 21:33:19 | midknight2k3 | im GLAD |
| 21:33:40 | midknight2k3 | i thought he'd ban me |
| 21:33:47 | midknight2k3 | but he took it seriously |
| 21:33:49 | tracktheripper | that response becomes scary if you see it too many times |
| 21:34:04 | midknight2k3 | you do one IDIOT' |
| 21:34:08 | midknight2k3 | i did that one |
| 21:34:27 | midknight2k3 | did you see his comment on the usb-digital pirate port? |
| 21:34:32 | tracktheripper | yes |
| 21:34:36 | midknight2k3 | "Stop playing with the request tracker, boys" |
| 21:34:41 | midknight2k3 | or something |
| 21:34:43 | tracktheripper | and im NOT sending any more requests :-) |
| 21:34:44 | midknight2k3 | you do a good one now |
| 21:34:47 | midknight2k3 | you better |
| 21:35:13 | tracktheripper | nah its alright |
| 21:35:26 | tracktheripper | Adimas said he will murder me if I send one more |
| 21:35:33 | midknight2k3 | DO IT! |
| 21:35:44 | midknight2k3 | tracktheri[[er sucks |
| 21:35:53 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 21:35:54 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 21:35:59 | midknight2k3 | sriously |
| 21:36:03 | midknight2k3 | seriosly |
| 21:36:15 | midknight2k3 | SERIOUSLY |
| 21:36:23 | tracktheripper | :D |
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| 21:36:36 | midknight2k3 | you think it's funny you're not my friend any... |
| 21:36:38 | midknight2k3 | he left. |
| 21:36:43 | midknight2k3 | oh well |
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| 21:36:52 | midknight2k3 | fm recorder flashing can resume talking |
| 21:37:19 | midknight2k3 | *JT1 is glad he smells |
| 21:37:21 | tpelliott | Do you listen to the radio much? |
| 21:37:26 | midknight2k3 | not that often |
| 21:37:29 | midknight2k3 | but once in a while |
| 21:38:04 | tpelliott | Os the reception any better than other portable radios? |
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| 21:38:17 | midknight2k3 | erm |
| 21:38:19 | midknight2k3 | it's average |
| 21:38:25 | midknight2k3 | outdoors, i'd say "good" |
| 21:38:31 | midknight2k3 | indoors, it's ok |
| 21:38:38 | midknight2k3 | it's listen-to-able :) |
| 21:38:44 | tracktheripper | sorry |
| 21:38:50 | midknight2k3 | oh |
| 21:38:51 | midknight2k3 | JT |
| 21:38:54 | midknight2k3 | i see now |
| 21:38:57 | midknight2k3 | :D |
| 21:39:01 | midknight2k3 | you still suck :( |
| 21:39:04 | tracktheripper | im very upset |
| 21:39:09 | tracktheripper | really upset |
| 21:39:12 | midknight2k3 | why? |
| 21:39:21 | tracktheripper | because u are being rude to me |
| 21:39:27 | midknight2k3 | sorry sorry |
| 21:39:30 | midknight2k3 | ok |
| 21:39:34 | midknight2k3 | i apologize |
| 21:39:49 | tracktheripper | ok i forgive u |
| 21:40:03 | midknight2k3 | i hope so >:( |
| 21:40:10 | tracktheripper | i don't wanna keep pissing off Bjorn and co |
| 21:40:19 | midknight2k3 | you're done then? |
| 21:40:39 | tracktheripper | well for the time being |
| 21:40:46 | midknight2k3 | just one last one - a bug request "Let me stop bugging Bjorn and Co" |
| 21:40:48 | midknight2k3 | :) |
| 21:40:59 | midknight2k3 | never mind |
| 21:41:30 | tracktheripper | Adimas was going bananas at me |
| 21:41:31 | tracktheripper | :-( |
| 21:41:42 | midknight2k3 | I’m cool! |
| 21:41:42 | midknight2k3 | <tracktheripper> I suck! |
| 21:41:42 | midknight2k3 | <midknight2k3> really? |
| 21:41:50 | midknight2k3 | :D |
| 21:42:16 | tpelliott | The one feature I'm witing for is a charging screen. That would free us once and for all from Archos firmware. |
| 21:42:32 | tracktheripper | of course I suck, I suck Pepsi through a straw at Mcdonalds :D |
| 21:42:50 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 21:42:51 | midknight2k3 | :D |
| 21:43:03 | midknight2k3 | oh yeah |
| 21:43:04 | tpelliott | Pepsi? They only have Coke here. |
| 21:43:08 | midknight2k3 | I KNOW HOW THEY COULD DO IT! |
| 21:43:18 | tracktheripper | Midknight, don't make me hit you :D |
| 21:43:42 | midknight2k3 | A little rockbox logo, under that a big battery thing showing a charging animation and next to it the percent it is it |
| 21:43:43 | midknight2k3 | at |
| 21:43:48 | midknight2k3 | uhm |
| 21:43:53 | midknight2k3 | it was tpelliot who said that |
| 21:43:55 | midknight2k3 | :P |
| 21:44:18 | midknight2k3 | you must now apologize |
| 21:44:28 | tracktheripper | ok ok midknighty im sorry |
| 21:44:30 | midknight2k3 | you accuse me of saying what tpelliot did |
| 21:44:30 | tpelliott | I was referring to McDonalds. |
| 21:44:35 | midknight2k3 | that's not good enoigj |
| 21:44:38 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 21:44:46 | midknight2k3 | i want a better apology |
| 21:44:58 | midknight2k3 | :( |
| 21:45:04 | tracktheripper | ok ok ok your majesty sir Midknight im very sorry your highness |
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| 21:45:14 | midknight2k3 | thank you |
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| 22:20:13 | midknight2k3 | yay! |
| 22:20:16 | midknight2k3 | it's him! |
| 22:20:29 | midknight2k3 | i sure hope that i don't have the 504 mask or whatever though :/ |
| 22:20:51 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm deeple scared about that one guy. |
| 22:21:06 | midknight2k3 | i bet |
| 22:21:21 | Stevie[FP] | 504 mask? |
| 22:21:35 | [IDC]Dragon | Especially, because I still think this is just impossible. |
| 22:21:42 | midknight2k3 | the hardware mask that sometimes makes rombox flash wrong |
| 22:21:55 | midknight2k3 | latest message in the mailing list |
| 22:21:57 | Stevie[FP] | that's a, erm, feature |
| 22:21:59 | midknight2k3 | one of the latest |
| 22:22:02 | [IDC]Dragon | Yes, he has 0x0504 mask, that's why I posted that warning. |
| 22:22:17 | midknight2k3 | it still seems to work for others |
| 22:22:23 | [IDC]Dragon | But for at least another guy with the same mask it worked. |
| 22:22:26 | midknight2k3 | perhaps that guy just didn't hold down the button? |
| 22:22:29 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 22:22:31 | midknight2k3 | odd |
| 22:22:38 | [IDC]Dragon | He did. |
| 22:22:45 | midknight2k3 | hmm |
| 22:22:55 | Stevie[FP] | are you still including some random copy of the OS with rombox? |
| 22:23:06 | [IDC]Dragon | I hope the boy is in a crash state, and taking out the battery fixes it. |
| 22:23:20 | [IDC]Dragon | box, I mean. |
| 22:23:30 | midknight2k3 | oh lol |
| 22:23:44 | midknight2k3 | Dragon, do you have a link to the page with the uart boot mod? |
| 22:23:49 | midknight2k3 | i couldn't find it anywhere |
| 22:24:01 | [IDC]Dragon | the posting, you mean? |
| 22:24:10 | midknight2k3 | you say in the readme |
| 22:24:17 | midknight2k3 | you can recover with the uart boot mod |
| 22:24:33 | [IDC]Dragon | Yes. |
| 22:24:37 | midknight2k3 | i just wanted to see what it "is" |
| 22:24:43 | midknight2k3 | is there a page that says how? |
| 22:24:47 | [IDC]Dragon | hang on... |
| 22:25:17 | [IDC]Dragon | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-06/0287.shtml |
| 22:25:24 | midknight2k3 | thanks |
| 22:25:26 | [IDC]Dragon | and the link within. |
| 22:27:20 | Stevie[FP] | [IDC]Dragon: are you still including some random copy of the OS with rombox? |
| 22:27:42 | [IDC]Dragon | random copy? |
| 22:28:42 | midknight2k3 | dragon: can you do the uart boot mod on the fmrecorder? |
| 22:28:49 | midknight2k3 | or is it only possible for recorders? |
| 22:28:56 | Stevie[FP] | [IDC]Dragon: yeah, whatever copy you had on hand |
| 22:29:09 | [IDC]Dragon | Haven't looked into one yet, but theoretically, yes. |
| 22:29:28 | [IDC]Dragon | Stevie: I used the latest from cvs. |
| 22:29:48 | Stevie[FP] | the archos firmware image isn't in CVS |
| 22:29:55 | [IDC]Dragon | I thought it's a good idea to include exactly the one I tested with. |
| 22:30:04 | Stevie[FP] | ...mkay |
| 22:30:08 | Stevie[FP] | are you at least preserving the hardware mask? |
| 22:30:24 | [IDC]Dragon | Shure. |
| 22:30:33 | [IDC]Dragon | Otherwise, it would be a mess. |
| 22:30:41 | Stevie[FP] | no kidding |
| 22:31:09 | * | Stevie[FP] wonders wtf is wrong with this stupid thing |
| 22:31:11 | [IDC]Dragon | You can update the rockbox flash image right away, if you like. |
| 22:31:34 | [IDC]Dragon | The broken one? |
| 22:31:43 | [IDC]Dragon | or what thing? |
| 22:32:02 | Stevie[FP] | this driver |
| 22:32:07 | Stevie[FP] | its like |
| 22:32:13 | Stevie[FP] | not terminating correctly, or something |
| 22:33:06 | midknight2k3 | i have the 504 mask! |
| 22:33:08 | midknight2k3 | nooo! |
| 22:33:10 | midknight2k3 | grr! |
| 22:33:27 | [IDC]Dragon | I don't think that's a problem. |
| 22:33:34 | midknight2k3 | really? |
| 22:33:43 | midknight2k3 | it seems to work for most others |
| 22:34:03 | * | Stevie[FP] wonders if softice can debug a kernel over a serial port |
| 22:34:17 | * | midknight2k3 wonders what that means |
| 22:34:21 | [IDC]Dragon | Stevie: yes, I think so. |
| 22:34:45 | midknight2k3 | i must go now |
| 22:34:47 | midknight2k3 | goodbye |
| 22:34:51 | * | Stevie[FP] finds his copy of softice |
| 22:34:57 | midknight2k3 | and thank you for rombox :D |
| 22:34:57 | Stevie[FP] | because WinDbg is utter CRAP |
| 22:35:00 | [IDC]Dragon | bye |
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| 22:35:39 | Stevie[FP] | i mean |
| 22:35:47 | Stevie[FP] | utter, utter, UTTER crap |
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| 22:36:03 | TBoy | hoi |
| 22:36:11 | TBoy | great work Dragon |
| 22:36:22 | TBoy | on the rb in flash |
| 22:36:30 | [IDC]Dragon | thanks, but a bit clouded today. |
| 22:36:32 | TBoy | just flashed my FM |
| 22:36:36 | TBoy | yes I know |
| 22:36:46 | [IDC]Dragon | which mask (shiver)? |
| 22:36:46 | TBoy | everything works like a charm |
| 22:36:52 | TBoy | 304 |
| 22:37:06 | [IDC]Dragon | seems the more common one. |
| 22:37:13 | TBoy | except when I plug the usb in while its off |
| 22:37:33 | [IDC]Dragon | haven't tried that. |
| 22:37:46 | TBoy | then it boots and just hangs at the splash screen with the loading splash box |
| 22:38:11 | TBoy | but if I boot it up and then plug it in |
| 22:38:11 | TBoy | its ok |
| 22:38:37 | [IDC]Dragon | it booted because you plugged in, or because you pressed on? |
| 22:38:48 | TBoy | because I plug it in |
| 22:39:00 | TBoy | but then it freezes |
| 22:39:02 | TBoy | or hangs |
| 22:39:04 | [IDC]Dragon | interesting. |
| 22:39:20 | TBoy | what that it boots or that it hangs |
| 22:39:50 | [IDC]Dragon | that it boots. |
| 22:40:06 | [IDC]Dragon | and in consequence, the hang. |
| 22:40:26 | TBoy | yeah |
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| 22:40:52 | [IDC]Dragon | my recorder doesn't start by plugging USB. |
| 22:41:04 | _aLF | hi |
| 22:41:04 | [IDC]Dragon | must be an FM feature |
| 22:41:07 | TBoy | maybe only the fms do that |
| 22:41:08 | TBoy | ya |
| 22:41:10 | TBoy | ywa |
| 22:41:13 | TBoy | dang |
| 22:41:16 | TBoy | yea |
| 22:41:54 | [IDC]Dragon | However, that's an issue which Rockbox can fix later on. |
| 22:42:03 | TBoy | maybe we could check if it was just plugged in |
| 22:42:12 | TBoy | hmm |
| 22:42:21 | [IDC]Dragon | It's just that we have to discover these init details. |
| 22:42:26 | TBoy | yes |
| 22:42:31 | TBoy | I was just thinkin |
| 22:43:02 | TBoy | that we wouldn'T need what I was just sayin |
| 22:43:31 | TBoy | could it be |
| 22:43:41 | TBoy | that now we have rb controlling the unit totally |
| 22:43:55 | TBoy | that we could play music with the unit connected |
| 22:44:15 | TBoy | in usb |
| 22:44:45 | [IDC]Dragon | no, the disk is either "owned" by USB or by the box. |
| 22:45:08 | Stevie[FP] | [IDC]Dragon |
| 22:45:49 | Stevie[FP] | since the fm's LiIon charging is controlled by a chip, it's able to charge itself [very slowly I might add] using power from the USB hub |
| 22:46:15 | [IDC]Dragon | maybe, is that so? |
| 22:46:26 | Stevie[FP] | that is so |
| 22:46:46 | Stevie[FP] | thus, the usb power is wired into the circuit |
| 22:46:54 | Stevie[FP] | and when you plug in usb |
| 22:47:13 | Stevie[FP] | it forces the FM on, just like plugging in the charger does |
| 22:47:50 | [IDC]Dragon | OK. |
| 22:47:59 | Stevie[FP] | the power floods the MOFSET, forcing it on |
| 22:48:31 | Stevie[FP] | the MOSFET even |
| 22:49:40 | Stevie[FP] | its kinda funny |
| 22:49:51 | Stevie[FP] | because my lil PCMCIA usb 2.0 card can't supply a lot of power |
| 22:50:24 | Stevie[FP] | so when I plug in USB, the lil plug icon Rockbox has blinks slowly |
| 22:50:33 | Stevie[FP] | cuz it has power, then it doesn't, then it does... |
| 22:51:02 | [IDC]Dragon | Indeed funny. |
| 22:54:32 | Stevie[FP] | ok |
| 22:54:37 | Stevie[FP] | where tf did I stuff softice |
| 22:57:06 | [IDC]Dragon | Goodnight! |
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| 23:09:25 | tracktheripper | hello |
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| 23:17:05 | tracktheripper | hello Stevie |
| 23:17:40 | tracktheripper | Somethings don't make sense. The Archos uses the type A USB socket like on a PC and yet it is a slave?! I thought the Type A is the Master and the Type B Square socket is the slave |
| 23:18:07 | Hes | tracktheripper: rules like that are made to be bent 8-) |
| 23:18:23 | Hes | bending that rule seems common enough that A-A cables are easy to buy. |
| 23:18:28 | adi|home | the socket type has nothing to do with slave or master |
| 23:18:50 | tracktheripper | A-A cables are rare as rocking horse shit in London |
| 23:18:53 | Stevie[FreedomPa | uhm |
| 23:19:02 | Stevie[FreedomPa | i dunno about you |
| 23:19:09 | Stevie[FreedomPa | but my FM's connector looks NOTHING like that of a PC |
| 23:19:10 | Hes | I think the original spec or idea was that slaves would have B connectors so that end-users (TM) would know what can be connected where... |
| 23:19:16 | Stevie[FreedomPa | my FM's actually uses the same as a digital camera I have |
| 23:19:23 | Stevie[FreedomPa | and I use the digicam cable cuz it's longer |
| 23:19:27 | tracktheripper | but that is still the "slave" socket |
| 23:19:28 | Hes | FM has a different connector then. |
| 23:19:36 | Stevie[FreedomPa | fm has a teeny little one |
| 23:19:36 | tracktheripper | yea |
| 23:20:02 | tracktheripper | I think thats why everyone hammers the Archos tech support asking if the Recorder can download digital camera images on-the-fly |
| 23:20:35 | tracktheripper | oh yeah Adimas sorry for upsetting you |
| 23:21:28 | tracktheripper | u got me worried this morning! |
| 23:21:33 | tracktheripper | i was really nervous! |
| 23:23:20 | tracktheripper | Adiamas you there?! |
| 23:27:23 | adi|home | hmm? what? |
| 23:27:31 | tracktheripper | you frightened me this morning |
| 23:27:43 | adi|home | bah.. no worries... |
| 23:27:57 | adi|home | just gets tiresome having to filter some of the 'requests' you put in :) |
| 23:27:58 | tracktheripper | :-( |
| 23:28:09 | tracktheripper | that last request I sent in, I sent it in because I was bored |
| 23:29:59 | tracktheripper | the "Braille font for Blind Users" |
| 23:37:48 | Stevie[FreedomPa | hmm |
| 23:37:51 | | Nick Stevie[FreedomPa is now known as Stevie[FP] (~whatsit2u@65.114.136.196) |
| 23:38:00 | Stevie[FP] | i ping out if i'm in softice |
| 23:38:01 | Stevie[FP] | :( |
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| 23:49:54 | Hes | :0: |
| 23:49:54 | Hes | * ^Subject:.*Music preferences.* |
| 23:49:54 | Hes | /dev/null |
| 23:50:29 | Hes | (I hereby release the above piece of software under the GPL, v2 or later, at your preference) |
| 23:50:34 | Stevie[FP] | hahaha |
| 23:50:41 | Stevie[FP] | killfile for? |
| 23:50:46 | Hes | procmail |
| 23:50:56 | Stevie[FP] | whats it kill? |
| 23:51:33 | Hes | the * line is a regular expression against the headers... /dev/null is the mailbox file where the mail matching the rule will be written |
| 23:51:45 | Stevie[FP] | that I got :P |
| 23:51:50 | Stevie[FP] | I don't know what email you got that matches that |
| 23:52:47 | Hes | a few on the rockbox list recently |
| 23:53:11 | Stevie[FP] | ah. |
| 23:54:24 | Hes | I sees a lengthy discussion coming on the list, very similar to quite a few mailing list discussions I've seen before |
| 23:55:03 | Hes | one off-topic post and then a hundred about what is off-topic for the list and what is not, and why 8-) |
| 23:56:01 | Stevie[FP] | heh |
| 23:56:16 | Hes | the metadiscussion is going to be even more offtopic than the original posts... 8-) |
| 23:56:28 | Stevie[FP] | <tracktheripper> that last request I sent in, I sent it in because I was bored |
| 23:56:28 | Stevie[FP] | <tracktheripper> the "Braille font for Blind Users" |
| 23:56:31 | Stevie[FP] | err |
| 23:56:32 | Stevie[FP] | ewps |
| 23:56:39 | Stevie[FP] | Receiving: message 99 of 216 |
| 23:56:40 | Stevie[FP] | christ |
| 23:56:59 | Stevie[FP] | it wasn't even a lot of spam |
| 23:57:19 | Stevie[FP] | Hes, I invite you to forget about the damn list and help me write this stupid driver :P |
| 23:57:57 | Hes | the volume _is_ getting high, probably will have to sort out to a similar filter I used on linux-kernel when I used to read that - only pass posts from known-to-be-interesting-and-on-topic people 8-) |
| 23:58:20 | Stevie[FP] | lkml was a bitch, mostly cuz of its tendency to spawn ide-vs-scsi wars |
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