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#rockbox log for 2003-07-22

00:00:09GalikI'm guessing that your charging unit id US
00:00:15blastman007yes me 2 but it dont works others say it works
00:00:18Galikid=is
00:00:21blastman007but it must be possible
00:00:26diddystar5humm i don't understand the point of "favorites" why can't dynamic playlists be used?
00:00:41blastman007unit is US ?
00:00:45blastman007whats US ?
00:00:55Galikerrr (U)n (S)ervicable
00:01:02Galik= broken
00:01:17Galik= fscked
00:01:22Galik= shagged
00:01:27Galik= knackered
00:01:27blastman007but whay does it charge?
00:01:31Galik= etc
00:02:01GalikIt may be a loose wire in the jukebox too
00:02:25GalikBut I'd try a different charger if I was u
00:02:25blastman007but i diddnt open it yet
00:02:38GalikWires do that sometimes
00:02:40blastman007its too much worth and i dondt have any idea of that
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00:03:25GalikIf you try another charger you will know 4 sure if it's the charger or the jukebox
00:03:38blastman007maybe
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00:08:05blastman007every channel empty
00:08:08blastman007strange
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01:19:55Shujitzuhello
01:20:22Shujitzuanyone here knows other sites for jukebox recorder
01:20:38Shujitzui want to fix my jukebox recorder 20
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01:42:52scott666hey
01:43:05scott666anyone online whos opened up their FMR?
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03:03:00scott666anyone here with an FMR?
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03:54:56midknight2k3scott: i have an fm recorder
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06:36:23g003ydiddystar5: The favorites plugin was put in to satisfy this feature request...
06:36:24g003yhttp://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439121&aid=562120
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07:00:27midknight2k3hello! hello!
07:01:35midknight2k3ok.. who here knows about flashing rockbox?
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07:15:47midknight2k3hardeep!
07:16:16midknight2k3can you tell me, is it simple to apply a patch o rockbox source that's ready to be compiled?
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07:42:54midknight2k3l_l_l, can you work with patcgs?
07:43:00midknight2k3can anybody?
07:45:08 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se)
07:46:55midknight2k3dwinho
07:47:00midknight2k3can you do patches?
07:47:26dwihnoerhm
07:47:37dwihnoIn theory, yes :)
07:47:49midknight2k3hang one sec please
07:49:32midknight2k3http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=695524&group_id=44306&atid=439120
07:49:34midknight2k3this one?
07:50:37dwihnomy compiler suite is at home
07:50:54midknight2k3oh well thanks anyhow
07:50:57midknight2k3oh and wait
07:50:58dwihnoIt would probably not compile (see the date of the submission)
07:51:13midknight2k3do you know much about flashing rockbox?
07:51:25dwihnoWell, I flashed my own unit without hassle.
07:51:39midknight2k3model?
07:52:29dwihnoRecorder 20 (upgraded to a 60 gb disk though)
07:52:48midknight2k3do you know how to flash your own version, perhaps a new daily build?
07:53:10dwihnoYup
07:53:39midknight2k3could you tell me how please?
07:53:45midknight2k3i have trouble with this ucl thing
07:53:51dwihnodo you have uclpack?
07:54:07dwihnoget the "release2.zip" file from that dragon's homepage.
07:54:16dwihnoit has everything needed for an initial flash
07:54:17midknight2k3oh ok
07:54:23midknight2k3i have fm recorder
07:54:25midknight2k3so you know
07:54:29midknight2k3maybe it is different?
07:55:26midknight2k3go it anyways
07:55:28midknight2k3got it
07:57:08dwihnohmm
07:57:10dwihnowait
07:57:17dwihnothe recorder is a different kind of beast
07:57:21dwihnoread the mailing list throughly
07:57:25midknight2k3uh oh
07:57:37midknight2k3could i just get fm recorder, ajz file then use the ucl to get the bin file from it?
07:57:57dwihnoyou could do that, but you need to descramble the file first.
07:58:08midknight2k3and that can be done with...?
07:58:10midknight2k3uclpack?
07:58:58dwihnoalso in the release2.zip archive
07:59:05midknight2k3i got that
07:59:08midknight2k3just did
07:59:22midknight2k3i am confused now
07:59:38midknight2k3rockbox flash.rock and firmware flash.rock are different?
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08:00:07dwihnoyes
08:00:19dwihnoone of them only flashes the "rockbox" part...
08:00:28midknight2k3oho! i get it
08:00:29dwihnothe other file flashes the archos' firmware as a backup
08:01:03midknight2k3so firmware flash.rock does archos firmware in part 2 and rockbox in part 1, and rockbox flash flashes only part 1 but keeps archos alone?
08:01:12midknight2k3makes sense now
08:01:17midknight2k3thank you
08:01:23midknight2k3but now to get the bin file
08:01:42midknight2k3what i wish is it just looks for ajbrec.ajz in root, and puts that in flash as it is
08:01:49midknight2k3not all this dumb stuff
08:02:41midknight2k3i might have got it now
08:03:03dwihno:-)
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08:03:13midknight2k3so i use uclpack to get the bin file from daily build, then use rockbox flash to put that bin in flash?
08:03:27dwihnothink so
08:03:32midknight2k3thank god almighty
08:03:36midknight2k3let me attempt
08:03:39midknight2k3:)
08:03:50dwihnoIf you fail, your unit might become unusable.
08:04:05midknight2k3i did the flash thing already
08:04:19midknight2k3so if rockbox flash fails archos one still works right?
08:04:25midknight2k3and then...
08:04:30midknight2k3uh oh
08:04:31midknight2k3lol
08:04:39midknight2k3then im stuck with archos
08:04:47midknight2k3let me just see here
08:05:38dwihnoif the flashing fails, you won't be able to boot
08:06:11midknight2k3i hate that part
08:06:20midknight2k3but is there a reason it should fail?
08:06:32midknight2k3or do i seem dumb because i can't get this working? lol
08:06:33midknight2k3:)
08:06:49dwihnohm
08:07:07dwihnoas long as you don't try flashing a recorder firmware :-)
08:07:14midknight2k3lol
08:07:20midknight2k3i make sure i get fm recorder is that ok
08:07:29midknight2k3i replace the ajbrec.ajz
08:07:34midknight2k3i delete the reorder.bin
08:10:46midknight2k3so this should be right right?
08:10:49midknight2k3i got daily build
08:11:08midknight2k3i took it into c:\cywin along with decompress.exe and uclpack.exe
08:11:24midknight2k3i use bash prompt to say the decompress -fm ajbrec.ajz rockbox.bin
08:11:33midknight2k3i get a rockbox.bin file in the cygwin directory
08:11:37midknight2k3it should be correct?
08:12:31dwihnohm
08:12:32midknight2k3aha wait
08:12:36midknight2k3i need to do the ucl now?
08:12:37dwihnoDunno :-)
08:12:39midknight2k3lol
08:12:47dwihnoI haven't done any FM'ish, so I won't say anything.
08:12:48midknight2k3thanks for the input
08:12:57midknight2k3if there seems something wrong please say so!
08:13:19dwihnoI can't see anything that's suspicious
08:13:22midknight2k3"i won't say anything" sounds like you see something wrong here but don't feel like mentioning it
08:13:33dwihnoRead the docs 10 times, and you won't do any mistakes.
08:13:41midknight2k3ok
08:13:53dwihnoI performed my flashing with the docs in front of me, and it succeded.
08:14:00midknight2k3same
08:14:06midknight2k3and i had the deadly ish 504 mask
08:14:19midknight2k3but earhurts and bod kept saying "do it! do it!" so i had to :D
08:16:27midknight2k3so anyways the ucl file is now going to archos root and then i flash :\
08:16:38midknight2k3good thing i have 3 year extended warranty
08:16:41midknight2k3:)
08:17:48midknight2k3um
08:17:51midknight2k3dwinho?
08:17:53midknight2k3"With F2 it's being programmed, no need for warning this time. If it goes wrong, you'll still have the permanent image."
08:18:04midknight2k3or will it be dead?
08:18:37dwihnohello
08:18:44midknight2k3hi!
08:19:03dwihno3 year guarantee doesn't cover bad firmware flashing :)
08:19:13midknight2k3um
08:19:18midknight2k3best buy is stupid
08:19:24midknight2k3"it wont turn on! let's replace it!
08:19:27midknight2k3:)
08:19:32midknight2k3they should never know
08:20:51midknight2k3ok
08:20:55midknight2k3if i hit f2 it will go
08:20:57midknight2k3shall IO
08:21:02midknight2k3it says its ok
08:21:07midknight2k3it should be ok then right?
08:21:12midknight2k3RIGHT>
08:21:15midknight2k3:D
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08:21:55midknight2k3should i?
08:22:42midknight2k3i did
08:22:45midknight2k3verified ok
08:23:13midknight2k3it works
08:23:25midknight2k3woo hoo wa haa ta da woo hoo how exciting
08:25:02midknight2k3the charging screen is cool
08:25:15dwihnoa bit basic perhaps
08:25:22midknight2k3i like the "snow" inside
08:25:41midknight2k3ok
08:25:49midknight2k3why is the hard drive still spinning while it's plugged?
08:26:42dwihnoit shouldn't
08:27:05midknight2k3it stays spinning while its at the charging screen
08:27:17midknight2k3well so far
08:28:08dwihnodoesn't do that for me
08:28:16midknight2k3still goin!
08:28:20midknight2k3oh well
08:28:31midknight2k3must be fm recorder problem
08:28:36midknight2k3my problem is
08:28:40midknight2k3with rockbox in flash
08:28:46midknight2k3you have to hold on to turn it on
08:29:09midknight2k3but it calls it a keypress and therefor bypasses the RESUME? screen
08:31:38dwihnodunno
08:31:44dwihnoSounds like a FM issue to me.
08:31:44midknight2k3ti does it for me
08:31:46midknight2k3and i hate it
08:31:49midknight2k3well
08:31:51midknight2k3if you time it jsut right
08:31:57midknight2k3let go of on at the right second
08:32:00midknight2k3it will still work
08:32:29midknight2k3but if you go a millisecond too long, it will say it a keypress and then gets rid of RESUME? YES=PLAY...
08:33:23dwihnomkay
08:33:27dwihnoI don't use resume.
08:47:04midknight2k3pretty neat
08:47:18midknight2k3im learning the basics of C just by looking around in the C files
08:53:26midknight2k3dwinho
08:53:39midknight2k3do you know what is the difference between the Normal and Debug versions?
08:53:42midknight2k3of rockbox
08:53:46midknight2k3that can be compiled
08:54:26dwihnodebug versions are for serial-mod people afaik
08:54:41dwihno(that's not really useful unless you're a hardcore developer)
08:54:57midknight2k3oh
08:57:42midknight2k3aha!
08:58:13midknight2k3i have cracked into the peak meter's refresh rate settings! (aka went into apps>recorder>peakmeter.c :/ )
08:58:18midknight2k3lol
08:58:23midknight2k3things are looking up
08:58:49midknight2k3so...
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08:58:56midknight2k3previous setting was 20fps
08:59:02midknight2k3i just tried 5
08:59:08midknight2k3and it's clear that it works
08:59:14midknight2k3shall i now try 150fps?
08:59:17midknight2k3*snicker*
08:59:33dwihnohah
08:59:41midknight2k3watch my battery go from 57% down to 25% in a mere 10 seconds
08:59:42dwihnothe default values should not be changed in the source.
08:59:45midknight2k3hey
08:59:48midknight2k3it's a test
08:59:50midknight2k3right?
08:59:52midknight2k3just to see
08:59:53midknight2k3:D
09:00
09:00:03midknight2k32 days ago i knew nothing
09:00:15midknight2k3after looking at 2 hours worth of sourcecode i have the basics down
09:00:20midknight2k3i feel so happy
09:00:28midknight2k3now onto that 150 fps thing >:)
09:00:59midknight2k3its building hehehe hahaha
09:01:06midknight2k3i am so "radical"
09:01:08midknight2k3:)
09:01:34midknight2k3build
09:01:43midknight2k3sending to local disk J:\
09:02:21midknight2k3sent
09:02:25midknight2k3booting into new ajbrec
09:02:37midknight2k3resuming song
09:02:47midknight2k3niiiice
09:02:50dwihnoLCD overclocked, unit major malfunctioning ;)
09:02:59midknight2k3lol
09:03:12midknight2k3i am very flabbergasted
09:03:20midknight2k3it looks very.. perfectionist
09:03:25midknight2k3aka it's so... ME
09:03:35midknight2k3let's seee if it's in better time to the song
09:03:42midknight2k3plugging in headphones
09:03:53midknight2k3status: battery_level(DECREASING) :)
09:04:41midknight2k3very good
09:04:51midknight2k3i shall leave it
09:04:54midknight2k3uh oh
09:04:57midknight2k35% battery
09:05:00midknight2k3better shut down :D
09:06:18midknight2k3oh yeah oh yeah whos the pro at C who made the peakameter's refresh rate 150fps oh yeah who da man, mrs. g dogg?
09:06:28midknight2k3i feel happy tonight
09:06:39midknight2k3perhaps it is obvious
09:06:45midknight2k3i would not know
09:13:12dwihno*sweat*
09:13:18midknight2k3what now?
09:13:26midknight2k3i am modifying the volume display
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09:14:07dwihnoIt's hot
09:14:13midknight2k3what time is it?
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09:14:22midknight2k3today i got my air conditioner replaced :D
09:14:50dwihno9:20
09:14:57midknight2k312:14 am here
09:15:02midknight2k3lol
09:15:23midknight2k3do you know wehre it would be set that the hard drive activity is indicated on the red led?
09:19:16dwihnoprobably the ata driver
09:19:48midknight2k3thank you
09:19:50midknight2k3you so smart
09:20:04dwihnonah
09:20:09dwihnoJust been around to learn stuff.
09:21:48midknight2k3hmm
09:21:51midknight2k3i don't see it
09:29:49midknight2k3so far i have modified the scroll speed settings, the peak meter refresh rate (hahahaha), some other little things such as smaller increments on some settings, and now i have made my own BOUNCE plugin (a bit different) and have modified yet a few more things
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09:45:57midknight2k3sounds familiar
09:46:05midknight2k3lynx0 sounds even more familiar
09:46:13Lynx0Hehe
09:46:21Lynx0Lynx is taken
09:46:24midknight2k3would i know you?
09:46:26midknight2k3lol
09:46:40Lynx0just from here, have been hanging around here last week a lot
09:46:57midknight2k3hmm
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10:14:46midknight2k3ok it is late...
10:14:48midknight2k3good night all
10:14:53midknight2k3happy hacking
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11:43:17tracktheripperdwihno!!!
11:43:30dwihnotrackster!
11:43:38tracktheripperwats up?
11:43:47tracktheripperthis plugin thing works really well
11:43:47tracktheripper:)
11:44:27tracktheripperDwihno there should be an ID3 tag plug in
11:44:27tracktheripper:-)
11:44:34tracktheripperan ID3 tag editor plug in
11:44:34tracktheripper:-)
11:44:55dwihnoWell, write one then :)
11:45:12tracktheripperi can only program in BASIC n ot inC C++
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14:17:20jimhaddonhello
14:17:40jimhaddoncan someone help me about the Archos FM 20 recorder
14:18:56jimhaddonne1?
14:19:13dwihnowhat's your prob, bob?
14:19:19jimhaddoni just wanna kno, can it play anything other than mp3. Like AAC or something
14:19:39dwihnoit's a hardware limitation
14:19:45jimhaddonis that a no then
14:19:59dwihnonothing other than mp3 is possible without major ninja stuff (which we'll probably never see)
14:20:24jimhaddoneven if u like, rename an AAC file to .mp3
14:20:28jimhaddonnothing like that works?
14:20:42dwihnoit's a hardware issue
14:20:49reinino, the coding of aac is not equal to mp3..
14:20:57jimhaddonor mpc
14:21:05jimhaddonnah, tis ok, thanks anyway m8!
14:21:09jimhaddono, one more thin
14:21:17jimhaddonwith rockbox, wots this scroll jump?
14:23:30jimhaddon?
14:24:22reinihmm, dunno what ya mean, sorry
14:24:41jimhaddoni heard something about a scroll jump in rockbox
14:24:51jimhaddonlike, u cud jump to any song u wanted
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14:27:33jimhaddonok, thanx everyone anyway
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15:41:19jimhaddoncan someone help me then
15:41:27jimhaddonWot is the Jump Scroll in Rockbox?
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20:09:15elinenbehello everyone... I'm back from holiday
20:09:21midknight2k3yay!
20:09:24midknight2k3where did you go?
20:09:27elinenbeI like the flashing feature (and plugins!)
20:09:34midknight2k3oh yes
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20:09:48elinenbeI backpacked through Eastern Europe and finished my trip watching a few stages of the Tour De France
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20:10:07midknight2k3cool
20:19:27midknight2k3can you apply patches to source, elinenbe? there's a fairly old one i wanted to try but i dont know if it works
20:21:53midknight2k3http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=695524&group_id=44306&atid=439120
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21:12:00midknight2k3Bye! Hello! Hello! Hi there! Goodbye! Hello! See ya!
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22:13:46midknight2k3 heyeyeheey
22:13:51midknight2k3it's the rombox guy!
22:14:13[IDC]DragonEm, yes.
22:14:17midknight2k3now my box starts up in 5 seconds! yes!
22:14:20midknight2k3lol
22:14:34midknight2k3i did too have that 504 mask but flashing still worked
22:14:43[IDC]DragonWill be faster once we optimized the spinup.
22:15:02midknight2k3yeah it spins, then pauses, then unpauses
22:15:03[IDC]Dragon(and kicked out ajbrec.ajz check)
22:15:17midknight2k3an option for that would be a good idea
22:15:26[IDC]DragonYou have an FM?
22:15:30midknight2k3yep
22:15:42[IDC]DragonAre you using a later build?
22:15:50midknight2k3later build?
22:15:55midknight2k3one from yesterday...
22:16:01midknight2k3i reflashed last night
22:16:06midknight2k3im about to again
22:16:07[IDC]DragonOK, can you test something?
22:16:21midknight2k3if it won't kill my box ;)
22:16:31[IDC]DragonDoes your disk spin within the charging screen?
22:16:35midknight2k3YES
22:16:39midknight2k3actually lol
22:16:40[IDC]DragonHmm.
22:16:46midknight2k3i was just complaining about that
22:16:56midknight2k3it charges slower because of it i believe
22:17:27[IDC]DragonI don't know how to turn it off, yet.
22:17:45midknight2k3not a real problem
22:17:48midknight2k3just a minor issue
22:18:00[IDC]DragonAnd I didn't know it's different with the FM.
22:18:06midknight2k3im about to flash my own rockbox
22:18:11midknight2k3thanks to you
22:18:11[IDC]DragonOK.
22:18:13midknight2k3:D
22:18:30midknight2k3how would you get to the charging screen C file?
22:18:36midknight2k3where would it be i mean?
22:18:49[IDC]DragonIt's part of screens.c
22:19:25[IDC]Dragon(Rather at the beginning)
22:19:46midknight2k3aha!
22:19:59midknight2k3i like the dots in the battery by the way
22:20:07midknight2k3it's the only novelty
22:20:09midknight2k3:)
22:20:31[IDC]DragonThanks, however I wanted it a bit different, more random.
22:20:48midknight2k3didn't work out the way it was planned?
22:20:58midknight2k3ahh, there's still many months for that
22:21:17[IDC]DragonBut I didn't want to waste too much code on it, since it's only for the flash users.
22:21:25midknight2k3yes
22:21:37midknight2k3i wish i could perfect it
22:21:43midknight2k3but i don't know much C yet
22:21:51[IDC]Dragonthere's still many months for that
22:21:56midknight2k3although i have made many of my own "little" modifications
22:22:02midknight2k3i supposed
22:22:37[IDC]DragonYEs, play with the code, then you'll learn some more.
22:22:43midknight2k3exactly
22:22:58midknight2k3i knew nothing but now after messing around for 4 hours i know a bunch of the basics
22:23:06midknight2k3actually
22:23:10[IDC]DragonRight now I hope you don't have cvs write rights, no offense.
22:23:11midknight2k3maybe 7 hours
22:23:18midknight2k3write rights?
22:23:21midknight2k3uh oh lol
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22:29:48midknight2k3uh oh
22:29:50midknight2k3help!
22:29:52midknight2k3lol
22:30:08midknight2k3rockbox_flash.rock keeps saying INCOMPATIBLE VERSION
22:30:14midknight2k3and i just redownloaded iat
22:30:15midknight2k3it
22:30:44[IDC]DragonYou need the "old" one, matching your flashed version.
22:31:01midknight2k3old one?
22:31:10midknight2k3how can i get it?
22:31:21[IDC]DragonYou just overwrote it?
22:31:28midknight2k3wait wait
22:31:39midknight2k3last night i rewrote the flash once more to have rockbox 7-22 in flash
22:31:47midknight2k3now i want to rewrite rockbox again
22:31:51midknight2k3and i have incompatible version
22:32:09[IDC]DragonLoad the rocks from that day.
22:32:27midknight2k3it's in there?
22:32:30midknight2k3rockbox flash.rock?
22:33:10[IDC]Dragonfronm the rockbox site, daily build page, if you don't have it any more.
22:33:16midknight2k3i see
22:33:23midknight2k3i wouldn't expect it there
22:34:04midknight2k3hmm
22:34:08midknight2k3still incompatible
22:34:15midknight2k3hang on let me try one more time
22:35:36midknight2k3there we go
22:35:41midknight2k3one thing though
22:35:58midknight2k3so if THIS flashing failed, archos would still work?
22:36:10midknight2k3you say if it fails i still have the master image or soemthing
22:36:12[IDC]DragonYes, by F1-On.
22:36:20midknight2k3but rockbox is gone forever?
22:36:30midknight2k3no more flash rewrite?
22:36:31[IDC]DragonNo, you can reflash it again.
22:36:46midknight2k3how would you do that is what i wondeer
22:36:50midknight2k3with a pc program?
22:37:24[IDC]DragonYou still have "ajbrec.ajz_" with a plugin capable rockbox, right?
22:37:37midknight2k3ohhhhhhhhhh
22:37:43midknight2k3archos will load it then you can reflash
22:38:02midknight2k3yeah i have an ajz file, i could use archos usb mode to rename it to ajbrec.ajz
22:38:06midknight2k3then it can load it right
22:38:12[IDC]Dragonif you kept the compatible .rock for that ;-)
22:38:54midknight2k3before i forget
22:39:03[IDC]DragonYes, you can Archos USBmode to get the necessary files over.
22:39:11midknight2k3theres a huge annoying bug
22:39:31[IDC]Dragonno, can't be.
22:39:40midknight2k3if you hold ON just a millisecond too long rockbox will count it a keypress and therefore will cancel the ASK RESUME screen
22:39:42midknight2k3lol
22:39:59[IDC]Dragonhold On when?
22:40:05midknight2k3to boot
22:40:15midknight2k3rombox calls it a keypress
22:40:27midknight2k3and it's any other key, so it will say no to resume
22:40:32midknight2k3it makes me sad :\
22:40:37[IDC]DragonHm, have to try.
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22:41:26[IDC]DragonI never use the ask resume.
22:41:30midknight2k3i do
22:41:41diddystar5i do 2
22:41:59midknight2k3and rombox willl bypass it boohoo
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22:44:02midknight2k3uh oh
22:44:03midknight2k3lol
22:44:15midknight2k3i flashed a rockbox recorder version and i needed an fm one
22:44:19midknight2k3good thing i remembered
22:44:21[IDC]DragonJust tried: I have to hold that On button unusually long to provoke this.
22:44:22midknight2k3i will reflash it now
22:44:31midknight2k3well for me i hold it toll rockbox shows
22:44:46midknight2k3with is perhaps 300ms after you can let go
22:44:53midknight2k3so it's very hard to time it right
22:44:59midknight2k3sometimes takes 5 or more tries
22:45:12midknight2k3UH OH LOL
22:45:19[IDC]DragonI usually just click button, don't stand on it ;-)
22:45:26midknight2k3with a RECORDER
22:45:31midknight2k3perhaps fm recorders are different?
22:45:32midknight2k3lol
22:45:36[IDC]DragonMaybe.
22:45:52midknight2k3after flashing RECORDER rockbox version
22:46:08midknight2k3the drive shows up in explorer as a ? drive
22:46:38midknight2k3i redescrambled to an fm file
22:46:51midknight2k3no wonder it was like 40kb bigger when i did a non fm flash
22:48:22[IDC]DragonSOrry, I'm missing the point.
22:48:31midknight2k3nothing
22:48:35midknight2k3i forgot the -fm tag
22:48:39midknight2k3when descrambling
22:48:43[IDC]DragonAh.
22:48:47midknight2k3produced a 130kb file
22:48:51midknight2k3instead of a 90kb one
22:49:18[IDC]DragonThat's strange, the difference shoul be only a few bytes.
22:49:21midknight2k3so i though that was odd then after flashing it i remembered, so i redid it with the FM tag and it came out 90 again
22:49:38midknight2k3after UCLing i believe ti was 90ish for FM and 130 is for recorder
22:49:48[IDC]DragonThe compressed one, you mean?
22:50:27midknight2k3after decompressing ajbrec and using UCL, the rockbox.ucl file was 90kb for FMrec and 130kb for rec
22:50:46[IDC]DragonIf the descrambing did in fact "rescrambling", it may not compress well, true.
22:50:57midknight2k3rescrambling?
22:50:58midknight2k3lol
22:51:16[IDC]Dragonmessing it up completely, I mean.
22:51:18midknight2k3wahtever i followed the instructions and it's fixed now
22:51:37[IDC]DragonYeah, stick to the instructions...
22:51:40midknight2k3thank you for your effort with rombox. i must say goodbye now. goodbye
22:51:47[IDC]DragonBye!
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23:02:56diddystar5[IDC]Dragon: isn't not loading settings a bad thing with the charging screen? some people may want trickle charge others not
23:05:18ricIIwhy do we need a charging screen ?
23:05:27[IDC]DragonI can't load them without the HD.
23:05:56[IDC]DragonIf the batteries are deeply discharged, the HD may not come up.
23:06:09ricIIrecorders have rtc..
23:06:20diddystar5hummm
23:06:29[IDC]DragonSo far, Rockbox didn't do anything useful without the HD.
23:06:44ricIIbut in that case it sould be charge full...
23:07:16[IDC]DragonI tried to make it simple for now.
23:08:29[IDC]Dragoncurrently, loading the settings meand RTC+HD, not split up.
23:08:45ricIIbut why a charing screen ? cpu is up & running to monitor charge anyways,,
23:09:24diddystar5the only way to select trickle on-off would be to change the default in the source
23:09:50[IDC]DragonTrickle is on by default.
23:10:07[IDC]DragonWhy don't you want it?
23:11:54diddystar5it dosen't matter much i would use trickle most of the time
23:20:52diddystar5bye
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