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#rockbox log for 2003-07-25

00:00:12elinenbehardeep: I just shit my pants!
00:00:12elinenbe:)
00:00:27hardeeptmi
00:00:54elinenbetmi? I'm checking it out now.
00:01:29hardeepelinenbe: Menu->Playlist Options->View Dynamic Playlist
00:01:42hardeepelinenbe: you can play a new track, also try ON+PLAY
00:02:40elinenbehardeep: is this the latest CVS with your changes? I think I will make a ucl of it...
00:03:09hardeepelinenbe: it should be close to latest, might have missed the last couple of changes
00:05:14elinenbehardeep: it's nice.
00:05:15 Quit tracktheripper (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
00:08:17elinenbehardeep: I think a different icon (maybe a "Q") would be better for queued files.
00:08:44hardeepelinenbe: agreed, it's on my todo.
00:09:38elinenbehardeep: what is new with ON+PLAY?
00:09:53hardeepelinenbe: oh, i meant ON+PLAY while in the viewer
00:09:58hardeepelinenbe: for move/delete
00:11:01elinenbehardeep: I think a good option would be full pathnames/just filename in viewer.
00:12:07elinenbehardeep: how does a move work?
00:12:10hardeepelinenbe: yeah, still need to decide on that... maybe something configurable a la wps
00:12:29hardeepelinenbe: select move then "play" where you want to move it to
00:12:47hardeepelinenbe: can't move the current playing track
00:12:54elinenbehardeep: I think a select/unselect would be nice
00:13:02elinenbethen you could select 5 files, and then do a move.
00:13:05elinenbe?
00:13:08elinenbemaybe :)
00:13:19hardeepelinenbe: heh, yeah, a possibility
00:13:22elinenbeit is progressing VERY nicely though... you always impress me.
00:13:30elinenbeand selected songs could be inverted.
00:16:21scott666how about move> to top, up one, down one, to bottom
00:16:46hardeepscott666: yeah, those are definite possibilities
00:47:38 Quit _aLF ("bye")
00:54:19 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)")
00:57:47***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
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01:01:39elinenbehardeep: again, it's looking great
01:02:17 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m33.net81-67-42.noos.fr)
01:02:23BoD[]hello !
01:02:29scott666hey
01:03:19BoD[]howareyou
01:03:35scott666meh
01:04:13BoD[]meh?
01:06:48scott666yeah
01:07:30scott666it means something like 'ok. im too lazy to say a multi-syallable word, much less a real word.'
01:10:51BoD[]oh:) ok then
01:12:16scott666it makes sense when you say it
01:14:04BoD[];)
01:19:17BoD[]vmware rulez
01:19:59scott666that name is farmiliar, but i cant think of what it is
01:20:29BoD[]a pc emulator (more or less)
01:20:40scott666yeah
01:20:42scott666thats right
01:21:16BoD[]i run windows in the virtual machine and installed all the bad software in it (kazza, emule, winmx)
01:21:35BoD[]so i don't "pollute" my real machine
01:21:44scott666heh
01:21:53scott666hey! winmx isnt bad
01:21:55scott666just kazaa
01:22:50BoD[]true
01:22:55BoD[]but you never know:)
01:23:29BoD[]i also installed fu**ing Real One player in it
01:24:35scott666*shudder*
01:25:22BoD[]why
01:25:42BoD[]oh .. right :)
01:36:52Zagorbed time
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02:52:56 Join claviola [0] (claviola@200.162.226.144.sao.ajato.com.br)
02:53:08claviolasigh... I think my brand new archos is defective
02:53:21claviolaThis is the 2nd time I have to chkdsk /r
02:54:19claviolaHas anyone here ever had to RMA their drive?
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03:00:47diddystar5MT: ya there?
03:09:54 Quit claviola ("Cliente saiu")
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03:20:39CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
03:20:39*claviola is away: Estou ocupado
03:20:46*claviola is back (gone 00:00:07)
03:20:54*claviola is away: listening to mogwai on the couch
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04:24:39 Join earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-138-88-175-212.res.east.verizon.net)
04:24:52earHurtshark!
04:25:06earHurtswho goes here?
04:30:20scott666tis I, sir scott the flatulent
04:30:38earHurtsgot an fm, fart-boy?
04:31:12scott666yup
04:31:12scott666he
04:31:13scott666*heh
04:31:50earHurtsyou feel like doing me a quick favor?
04:32:27scott666depending on what it is
04:32:52 Join midknight2k3 [0] (jirc@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com)
04:33:04midknight2k3hello whoever is here
04:33:09scott666hey
04:33:19earHurtsplug in your charger, go to debug->view battery-
04:33:29earHurtsthen press down key
04:33:40earHurtshey midk
04:33:43midknight2k3for what
04:33:54scott666what value do you want?
04:34:14scott666external?
04:34:21earHurtshold on
04:34:37earHurtslay the unit down on your desk/whatever
04:34:43earHurtsdo not touch it
04:34:52earHurtsnow tell me both values
04:34:55midknight2k3brb
04:35:08midknight2k3can you see this?
04:35:10scott666i gotta go in the other room where the charger is
04:35:13scott666ill be back in a sec
04:35:18midknight2k3thank god
04:35:20scott666midknight2k3: ues
04:35:37earHurtsk
04:36:38scott6663.9, 6.9
04:36:39scott666~
04:37:05earHurtsok, now oick it up in two hands
04:37:24scott666and tell you if it changes? ok hold on
04:37:29earHurtshold it against the case, NOT the bumpers
04:37:35scott666k
04:37:39scott666brb
04:37:48midknight2k3does it change earhurts?
04:37:50midknight2k3or what
04:38:02earHurtshis hands are in the other room too?
04:38:05midknight2k3maybe you messed up your box by replacing the hard drive :D
04:38:10midknight2k3yes sir
04:38:20earHurtsI think I did
04:38:33midknight2k3lolol
04:39:25earHurtsi'll see what I can 'fix' on you midk
04:39:36midknight2k3um?
04:42:39midknight2k3what what do you mean?
04:43:29earHurts you need a sympathy upgrade
04:43:52scott666back
04:43:55scott666no change
04:44:23earHurtsno change when you hold it in both hands
04:44:40earHurtsand when you don't touch it at all
04:44:44earHurts?
04:44:54scott666no change at all
04:45:04midknight2k3haha
04:45:21midknight2k3earhurts has made it so current runs through his box or something
04:45:24midknight2k3"oops"
04:45:59earHurtswhen you hold it, do your hands touch?
04:46:21scott666they did
04:46:34midknight2k3"ooops" again
04:46:39scott666i held it like 3 different ways
04:46:54scott666its not easy to hold it with the chrager plugged in
04:47:11earHurtswhy not?
04:47:53midknight2k3face it earHurts, what did you do?
04:48:03midknight2k3i will try it tomorrow
04:48:08scott666cause theres a wire sticking out of it!
04:48:24earHurtsok
04:48:26scott666right where my palm would be
04:48:27scott666lol
04:49:00earHurtspick in up with your fingers and thumb gripping the side
04:49:15earHurtson hand each side
04:49:43scott666there was no change
04:49:47scott666give up
04:49:51earHurtsk, thabks
04:50:08midknight2k3earhurts has killed his box
04:50:13midknight2k3a haha ha a hah
04:50:47earHurtswhen i touch it, the external goes up about 2 volts
04:51:06scott666LOL
04:51:49scott666wait
04:52:00scott666you can charge with your hands!!
04:52:05earHurtshmm?
04:52:07scott666thats a great feature
04:52:12scott666it sucks hte power out of you
04:52:21scott666you can run forever!!
04:52:23midknight2k3you will go dead earHurts
04:52:24earHurtscomedians!
04:52:27midknight2k3do not listen!
04:52:46earHurtsah, I already had one heart attck
04:52:57midknight2k3another is in order
04:53:00scott666lol
04:53:09midknight2k3we do not want to see you die.... right?
04:53:10earHurtsvery nice
04:53:24earHurtswell, I don't want to see that
04:53:32scott666i dont think you CAN see it
04:53:47scott666maybe if you die in front of a mirror...
04:54:05earHurtsyou guys are too sweet :)
04:54:13scott666:-)
04:54:16midknight2k3oh oh oh!
04:54:27midknight2k3if you keep holding while you are dying will your brain shrivel up?
04:54:43earHurtslike yours?
04:54:50scott666his brain will shrivel up anyway
04:54:56scott666!!
04:55:02scott666unless we mummify him!!
04:55:12midknight2k3shut up earHurts
04:55:24midknight2k3i hope he will get sucked dry of his battery power
04:55:26scott666then we can pull his brain out through his nose and keep it in a jar
04:55:31midknight2k3and he will sleep for ever
04:55:34midknight2k3i get half!
04:55:51midknight2k3i get the C-knowledge half
04:55:58midknight2k3make things simpler for me
04:56:36scott666lol
04:57:02scott666ooh! i got dibs on his kideys and liver
04:57:27earHurts%_97(@!
04:57:32scott666you can never have too many kidneys
04:57:33earHurtsghouls!
04:57:39scott666lol
04:57:48midknight2k3oh yeah?
04:57:50***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
04:57:52midknight2k3i get the spleen
04:57:58midknight2k3scott gets next pick
04:58:01scott666damn!
04:58:12scott666i get his hear
04:58:15scott666*heart
04:58:21midknight2k3ill take the hurting ears
04:58:23earHurtsmy girlfriend gets my pick
04:58:29scott666your pick?
04:58:41earHurtsahem
04:58:52scott666pick???
04:58:53midknight2k3i take the ears and that's final
04:59:14*scott666 is a confused american
04:59:19midknight2k3i also want the eyeballs if it's not a hassle
04:59:36midknight2k3and the lower intestines...
04:59:48scott666dude thats like his ass
04:59:54midknight2k3and also, the lower half of the right leg
05:00
05:00:05midknight2k3yeah forget that intestine idea
05:00:12midknight2k3ok ok
05:00:12thuare the brains taken?
05:00:16thuI hear they're tasty
05:00:20midknight2k3yes
05:00:24midknight2k3we both get brains
05:00:28thudarn I'm too late
05:00:31midknight2k3i give you 1/4 of my share
05:00:39midknight2k3so earhurts go hold your archos now
05:00:42thuwhat do you ask in return?
05:00:43midknight2k3cradle it
05:00:45earHurtsdonner, party of 10, uh 9, I mean ate
05:01:01midknight2k3i ask nothing
05:01:08earHurtsthu, you got an fm?
05:01:12thuyea
05:01:13midknight2k3LOL
05:01:15midknight2k3he busted his
05:01:28thuouch
05:01:31midknight2k3im leaving
05:01:32earHurtswant to do a rest?
05:01:38thuwhat rest?
05:01:38earHurtsbye
05:01:38midknight2k3test
05:01:44midknight2k3bye earhurts
05:01:45*thu screwed his battery
05:01:46earHurtstest
05:01:53thuit goes to 3/4 during the first 5 mins
05:01:58midknight2k3remember i get the ears, spleen brains and leg
05:01:59scott666his external power goes up 2V when he touches it
05:02:01thuit drops pretty quick afterwards
05:02:02earHurtsoh, me too!
05:02:19midknight2k3lol
05:02:20earHurtsgot your charger?
05:02:21thuheh I also have the tendency to forget my archos in my car
05:02:22thuplaying
05:02:25midknight2k3earhurts wants my battery
05:02:26thuovernight
05:02:29midknight2k3if mine dies
05:02:34midknight2k3hey earhurts
05:02:37midknight2k3i got an idea
05:02:43earHurtsyeah?
05:02:48midknight2k3i give you my battery and exhange old fm for new one at best buy
05:02:54midknight2k3OH
05:02:57midknight2k3give me your old battery
05:03:01midknight2k3i give you mine
05:03:13midknight2k3i exchange my whole kit at best buy for new one
05:03:17midknight2k3:D
05:03:17thucan you exchange it twice? :)
05:03:17scott666archos has a lifetime warranty on batteries
05:03:21midknight2k3free
05:03:23earHurtsno, that's fraud
05:03:24midknight2k3no
05:03:30midknight2k3they say it will work for lifetime is all
05:03:34midknight2k3earhurts cmon
05:03:35midknight2k3ok
05:03:41midknight2k3my battery for yours
05:03:41thumidknight2k3: without charging? :)
05:03:50midknight2k3what happens after that is for only i to know ;)
05:03:56midknight2k3lol
05:03:57earHurtsthu, plug in the charger
05:04:07midknight2k3bye then
05:04:10thuit gets hot
05:04:12midknight2k3think about it earhurts
05:04:19earHurtsno, even if we swapped, i'd still need to fix the real problem
05:04:20midknight2k3just think about it
05:04:28midknight2k3whats thwt
05:04:31midknight2k3the voltage thing
05:04:34scott666and the new one wouldnt have an updated HD
05:04:35thuyou can do it yourself earHurts
05:04:37earHurtsyeah
05:04:41midknight2k3i get the ears!
05:04:43thuonly thing you need is a screwdriver
05:04:45thuand quick hands
05:04:45midknight2k3and the spleen
05:04:58midknight2k3what\
05:05:03 Quit hardeep ("[BX] The Invisible Man uses BitchX, you just can't see it!")
05:05:03midknight2k3how
05:05:13midknight2k3ok ok whatever bye
05:05:15 Quit midknight2k3 ("Leaving")
05:05:25thumidknight2k3: go into store, take archos apart, swap batteries, put archos back in box, put box on the shelf
05:05:28thubye :)
05:05:50earHurtswant to help me with this test, thu?
05:05:53scott666all you have to do is remove 2 screws and pop it out
05:05:56thuno
05:05:59thuno screws
05:06:05scott666there are on mine
05:06:05thuI don't wanna break mine too
05:06:27scott666he wants you to plug in the charger and grab your archos
05:06:33earHurtsbasically
05:06:39thunow seriously I don't have a small philips screwdriver
05:06:53scott666me neither
05:06:56earHurtsnon invasive test
05:06:57scott666i used a flathear
05:06:59scott666*head
05:08:48thummkay let's see
05:09:06*thu gets his big hammer
05:09:26earHurts plug in, then go to debug view batter second screen
05:10:03thuhow do I remove the batt?
05:10:11thuI unscrewed the 2 screws on bottom
05:10:36scott666its on the top
05:10:40earHurtsyou can remove the battery without unscrewing anything
05:10:51scott666newer models have screws
05:10:52thugrr why did you make me unscrew them?
05:11:23earHurtsthat's not what I want you to test
05:11:42scott666<earHurts> non invasive test
05:11:59thui removed the top cover too
05:12:02thuwhat next?!
05:12:25earHurtsI just want you to plug in the charger
05:12:48thuhow can I remove the batt though?
05:13:28earHurtsopen the hatch at the top and shake it out
05:13:39thuwont move
05:14:07earHurtsyou may need to pry carefully with a small flathead
05:14:17thuthat spells trouble
05:14:35thuerr I think I shorted something
05:14:37thumade a big spark
05:14:43thubatt to case
05:14:45earHurtsseriously??
05:14:49thutes
05:14:50thuyes
05:14:55earHurtsshit
05:15:27scott666HA
05:15:27earHurtsremove the top cover entirely
05:15:38scott666the archos is OFF right?
05:15:40thuunscrew the side screws?
05:15:46thuscott666: naw I'm listening to music
05:15:52thuscott666: OF COURSE IT"S OFF
05:15:54scott666lol
05:15:55earHurtsthat will loosen it
05:16:05scott666no it wont
05:16:10earHurtsthe side screws are torx
05:16:25earHurtsit will if you then loosen the bumpers
05:16:29scott666all you have to do is unscrew the top screws, if any, and pry the top off
05:16:44scott666then turn the archos upside down and shake
05:18:16thuwhy am I doing this again?
05:18:26PsycoXulto take out the battery? it's just a little clip that pops in the top, you pry out and it pops up, then you slide it out.. there's instructions for that in the online manual on archos.com
05:18:52thuPsycoXul: I took the clip out but nothing popped
05:18:58scott666yeah, why is he taking out the battery?
05:19:01PsycoXulthe clip is what pops up
05:19:05thuPsycoXul: I tried helping it with a scredriver and it made a big spark
05:19:14earHurts it doesn't slide easily
05:19:15PsycoXulyou take it out, then you turn it upside down and shake like scott said
05:19:32PsycoXulthe battery has to slide out
05:19:41thunope
05:19:43PsycoXulit's just a big flat square
05:19:43PsycoXulheh
05:19:48scott666yeah
05:19:57earHurtssorry, I shoulf have said non conductive screwdriver
05:20:03thubingo
05:20:21thulool
05:20:28thu"to be used only with the Archos Multimedia"
05:20:37scott666really?
05:20:40thuy
05:20:45scott666damnit
05:20:50thuguess what.. I have an FM
05:20:50scott666now i have to open mine and look at it again
05:21:04PsycoXulheh
05:21:16thuthe original recorder has regular batts?
05:21:24thuheh this is crap I can't recharge it in my car
05:21:26scott666nihm
05:21:47scott666errr nimh
05:22:02PsycoXulwhy can't you recharge it in your car
05:22:14thui have a batt recharger that works off 12V
05:22:19PsycoXuljust get a car adapter with the same specs as the AC adapter
05:22:20thunot a 110V converter tho
05:22:25thuyeah I will eventually
05:22:46PsycoXuli've got one that's got switchable stuff and replacable tips
05:22:49PsycoXuli haven't tried it with my fm though
05:22:50PsycoXulheh
05:22:57PsycoXuli don't have a car :/
05:23:50scott666to be used only with the ARCHOS Jukebox
05:24:06scott666normal operating temperature 0-60% C
05:24:29earHurts psy, you got an fm?
05:24:38PsycoXulyeah
05:24:50scott6662 lithium-ion rechargable batteries, 2200 mAh - 4.2V intsert this way>> this side up
05:24:54earHurtswant to help me with a test?
05:25:10PsycoXulearHurts: dunno if i can
05:25:18PsycoXulmy HD has errors
05:25:20PsycoXulit won't boot :/
05:25:33earHurtsok, that's a problem
05:25:39earHurtsthanks anyway
05:26:56thuearHurts: okay what was the test again?
05:27:30scott666plug in the charger and compare the external voltage when you are and arent holding hte archos
05:27:39thuhehe
05:27:44thuwith or w/out batt inside?
05:27:48scott666with
05:27:53thuk
05:27:53scott666hmmmm
05:27:56scott666lol
05:28:03thuhow do I insert the batt back on?
05:28:05scott666think it can boot with no battery?
05:28:06earHurts not holding: sitting on a surface
05:28:06thuI mean which way?
05:28:08thu:P
05:28:24scott666see the BIG arror that says 'insert this way'?
05:28:25earHurtsthere,s an arraow on the battery
05:28:26thuheh the batt is as big as the hdd
05:28:31thuhehe
05:28:35thujk
05:28:38scott666put it in backwards and upside down
05:28:47thummkay
05:28:50earHurtspositive in
05:29:19scott666then plug it into a 12V unregulated power supply, and just thorow it in the dishwasher
05:29:55thuwhere's the external voltage?
05:29:57scott666then back at 120 degress F for 3 weeks, and youll have a very dead archos
05:30:11thubattery?
05:30:11scott666debug>view battery>down
05:30:32thuokay
05:30:35thusitting on the table
05:30:37earHurts holding meand on hand holding the left side of the back case
05:30:39thu6.86
05:30:40thu88
05:30:41thu89
05:30:42DBUGEnqueued KICK thu
05:30:42thu88
05:30:44thu85
05:30:47thu89
05:30:47thu88
05:30:48earHurtsother hand on the other side
05:30:48thu85
05:30:49thu86
05:30:52earHurtsstop
05:30:57thuyou get the point
05:31:07earHurtshands not touching
05:31:21thuin my hand it goes up to 6.94
05:31:40scott666mine was at 6.94 normally
05:31:40thunah same thing
05:31:42earHurtshands not touching each other
05:31:51earHurtsno change?
05:32:07scott666(there shouldnt be any change)
05:32:09thuscott666: stable?
05:32:12thuit varies a lot
05:32:13thusee above
05:32:14scott666no
05:32:21scott6666.9x
05:32:30thumine is 6.8x
05:32:37thuwith rare 6.9x'es
05:32:49earHurtsdoes it change significantly when you do not hold/touch it?
05:32:52scott666yeah me too
05:32:54thunot really
05:32:56scott666but reverse
05:33:05scott666insignificant difference
05:33:09earHurtsfuck fuck fuck
05:33:13scott666lol
05:33:20scott666you broke yours good
05:33:24scott6662 volts
05:33:25scott666lol
05:33:36earHurtsyeah
05:33:38thuhis goes to 8V?
05:33:44earHurtsno
05:33:50earHurtsdown to 4.x
05:33:54thuheh
05:33:59scott666oh it goes down??
05:34:01earHurtswhen not held
05:34:17thumaybe it just feels abandoned
05:34:20thuit's depressed
05:34:21scott666so its normal when youre holding it?
05:34:23scott666yeah
05:34:26scott666thats what im thinking
05:34:28scott666god
05:34:30earHurtsapparently
05:34:31thurotfl'
05:34:50thuwhat's that external voltage anyway?
05:34:55earHurtsi wish my gf went down when I didn't hold her
05:34:58scott666just snuggle with it in bed while its charging and see if it feels better in the morning
05:35:03thu:) earHurts
05:35:16scott666that was a good one
05:35:54scott666but would you really want her ALWAYS going down when you werent holding her
05:36:01scott666i mean how would you go to work?
05:36:07earHurtspractice is good
05:36:08scott666(/school)
05:36:41thuscott666: you can drive
05:36:45earHurtsok, who here understands electricity?
05:36:50thuscott666: and it would make for some pretty interesting lectures
05:37:02scott666heh
05:37:10CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
05:37:10*thu moves into the shade and looks away
05:37:21*scott666 also takes a step back*
05:37:32thuearHurts: there are some tiny things called electrons
05:37:43thuearHurts: they circle around atoms and stuff
05:37:51earHurtsarrgh
05:37:58thuumm and when they meat it's called electricity
05:38:03thuno, wait I got it wrong
05:38:07scott666oooh! oooh! edison was flying this kite with a key on it in a thunderstorm
05:38:07thus/meat/meet
05:38:09*thu is hungry
05:38:20scott666and he got struck by lightning
05:38:21scott666and he lived
05:38:30scott666and thats where electricity comes from
05:38:31scott666the end
05:38:33thuscott666: did he get hit by a really big electron?
05:38:34scott666by scott
05:38:41scott666produced by: scott
05:38:45scott666written by: scott
05:38:53scott666advertising by: thu
05:39:01PsycoXulheh
05:39:12thuhow about this
05:39:15thuapplied electricity
05:39:24thuarchos has in it this "electricity"
05:39:32PsycoXulelectricity is a fluid inside conductors
05:39:34thuwhen you put a screwdriver inside it makes a big spark
05:39:38thuthat is electricity
05:40:06scott666when a circuit is completed, power can go through
05:40:15earHurtsyeah
05:40:15scott666circuits are circular
05:40:25thunot true
05:40:27earHurtswhat circuit an I completing
05:40:32thumore like elliptical
05:40:51earHurtsok, guys, thanks for your help
05:41:09thuearHurts: anything else you want to know about?
05:41:09earHurtslater
05:41:16thuheh okay
05:41:22thudon't forget.. we're always here to help
05:41:23earHurtsnot tonight
05:41:27earHurtsaww
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05:41:53thuheh it feels so good sharing your knowledge with someone not as well educated as yourself
05:42:02PsycoXulheh
05:42:25PsycoXulyou ever practice awareness?
05:43:09PsycoXulheh thats a silly question
05:43:13PsycoXuleverybody has
05:43:36scott666 ________ a circuit
05:43:36scott666 / \
05:43:36scott666 / \ by scott
05:43:36scott666| | produced by: scott
05:43:36scott666 \ / drawn by: scott
05:43:36***Alert Mode level 1
05:43:36scott666 \__________/ advertising by: thu
05:43:51thuheh I don't have monospaced fonts
05:43:55thuthat thing looks more like
05:43:56thuumm
05:43:56scott666that was WELL worth the time
05:43:58scott666lol
05:44:02PsycoXulheh
05:44:31thu _____________
05:44:31thu< Scott sucks >
05:44:31thu −−−−−−−−−−−−-
05:44:31thu \ ^__^
05:44:31thu \ (oo)\_______
05:44:32***Alert Mode level 2
05:44:32thu (__)\ )\/\
05:44:34thu ||−−−−w |
05:44:38thu || ||
05:44:43scott666 ________ an egg with down syndrom
05:44:44scott666 / \
05:44:44scott666 / \ by scott
05:44:44***Alert Mode level 3
05:44:44scott666| | produced by: scott
05:44:44***Alert Mode level 4
05:44:44scott666 \ / drawn by: scott
05:44:44***Alert Mode level 5
05:44:44scott666 \__________/ advertising by: thu
05:45:09thummkay I switched to luxi mono
05:45:17thunow I can see your egg with corners
05:45:21PsycoXulheh
05:45:26scott666heh
05:45:33thuheh
05:45:36thu ____________________
05:45:36thu( electricity is fun )
05:45:36thu −−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−
05:45:36***Alert Mode level 6
05:45:36thu o ^__^
05:45:36***Alert Mode level 7
05:45:36thu o (oo)\_______
05:45:38thu (__)\ )\/\
05:45:40thu ||−−−−w |
05:45:42thu || ||
05:45:57scott666you can just copy paste a multi line thing in mIRC
05:46:32thuwhat's miRC?
05:46:47PsycoXulit's a crappy irc client for winblows
05:46:59thuoh that MirC
05:47:04scott666.
05:47:04scott666..
05:47:04scott666...
05:47:04***Alert Mode level 8
05:47:04scott666....
05:47:04***Alert Mode level 9
05:47:04scott666.....
05:47:05***Alert Mode level 10
05:47:05scott666......
05:47:07scott666.......
05:47:09scott666........
05:47:11scott666.........
05:47:13scott666..........
05:47:15scott666.........
05:47:17scott666........
05:47:19scott666.......
05:47:21scott666......
05:47:23scott666.....
05:47:25scott666....
05:47:27scott666...
05:47:29scott666..
05:47:31scott666.
05:47:33scott666magic!
05:47:33thumm okay.. lotsa dots
05:47:35PsycoXulwow, the ending was the best part... it was all so unpredicitable and wild
05:47:39thuI can paste my kernel log if you want
05:47:45scott666heh
05:47:45thuor better yet.. /dev/urandom
05:47:56PsycoXulheh
05:48:06thulet me give you a sample
05:49:42thudarn I can't copy from mplayer -vo aa
05:51:28PsycoXulheh
05:51:45PsycoXulwell gimp can save text files rendered by aalib
05:52:17thubleh too complicated
05:52:20PsycoXulor you know there's a plugin for it anyway, i forget if it comes standard
05:52:23PsycoXulheh
05:52:28thubesides I don't know how to capture the mplayer aalib output
05:52:47thuthey should make aalib books
05:52:47PsycoXulhuh?
05:52:50PsycoXulheh
05:56:23scott666 ..
05:56:23scott666 ....
05:56:23scott666 ......
05:56:23***Alert Mode level 11
05:56:23scott666 ........
05:56:23***Alert Mode level 12
05:56:23scott666 ...I......
05:56:24***Alert Mode level 13
05:56:24scott666 ...........
05:56:26scott666 ...,...Have...
05:56:28scott666 ....Too.........
05:56:30scott666 ..................
05:56:32scott666...........Much.....
05:56:34scott666 .....Free.........
05:56:36scott666 ..........Time..
05:56:38scott666 ..............
05:56:40scott666 ..(really)..
05:56:42scott666 ..........
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05:56:52scott666
05:57:13PsycoXultoo much free time, not enough free thought?
05:58:38scott666 ..
05:58:38scott666 ....
05:58:38scott666 ......
05:58:38***Alert Mode level 14
05:58:38scott666 ........
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05:58:39scott666 ............
05:58:41scott666 ...,.This.....
05:58:43scott666 ................
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05:58:47scott666....................
05:58:49scott666 ........Is........
05:58:51scott666 ................
05:58:53scott666 ..............
05:58:55scott666 ...Stupid...
05:58:57scott666 ..........
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05:59:09PsycoXulbe creative!
05:59:15PsycoXulcreativity is a good excersize in free awareness
05:59:18scott666hey look. theres a comma
05:59:27scott666sneaky bastard...
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06:00
06:00:37PsycoXuldon't cling
06:00:41PsycoXulbe free
06:01:11PsycoXulyou only go insane when you go semi-free but cling
06:01:14scott666this culture is about as free as charlie manson
06:01:25PsycoXulyep
06:01:36PsycoXulso?
06:01:53scott666just commenting
06:02:18PsycoXulbut freedom can be contagous
06:02:26scott666vodka + livewire = fun & orange puke\
06:02:36PsycoXulheh
06:02:48*PsycoXul shudders
06:03:06scott666at vodka, livewire, or orange puke?
06:03:09scott666...or fun?
06:03:12PsycoXulheh
06:03:22PsycoXuluh well...
06:03:27PsycoXulprobably vodka, livewire, and orange puke
06:03:28PsycoXulheh
06:03:36scott666lol
06:03:41scott666its better than it sounds
06:03:50PsycoXuloh i don't mean together
06:03:53PsycoXuljust each in general
06:03:53PsycoXulheh
06:03:58scott666oh, ok
06:03:59scott666lol
06:04:54PsycoXuli most likely have a genetic predisposition to alcoholism
06:05:17scott666i dont
06:05:20PsycoXulbut as it stands right now, i tend to strongly dislike it
06:05:20PsycoXulheh
06:05:31PsycoXuli like to think it's fun on occasion
06:05:33scott666alcohol or alcoholism?
06:05:42PsycoXulbut then every time i drink it just reminds me of what i don't like about drinking
06:05:45scott666i strongly dislike alcoholism
06:05:50PsycoXulalcohol
06:05:54scott666lol
06:05:58PsycoXuland alcoholism
06:05:58PsycoXulheh
06:06:14scott666im not much into drinking either
06:06:31scott666i prefer weed personally
06:06:36PsycoXulyeah
06:06:41PsycoXuldefinately
06:06:41PsycoXulheh
06:07:05scott666more bang for your buck, no hangover, no puking
06:07:05PsycoXulcannabis can free your awareness, to a degree
06:07:11PsycoXulyeah
06:07:17PsycoXuland it doesn't make you dumb unless you just feel like being dumb :p
06:07:22scott666except for it being illegal
06:07:39scott666well...it IS possible to smoke yourself retarded
06:07:44PsycoXulheh
06:07:48PsycoXuloh?
06:07:49scott666but itd take a few pounds
06:07:56PsycoXulheh
06:07:57scott666and i dont have that kinda money
06:08:05PsycoXulexactly how's that work?
06:08:19scott666a few k
06:08:24PsycoXuljust suffocate yourself in smoke so that you don't get enough oxygen?
06:08:40scott666theres something in it i think
06:08:41***Alert Mode OFF
06:08:59PsycoXul?
06:08:59scott666youve never met any burn-outs?
06:09:08PsycoXulfrom pot? no
06:09:09PsycoXulheh
06:09:13scott666people whove smoked too much and are just dumb?
06:09:20scott666well
06:09:24PsycoXuli've met people who are dumb and smoke pot
06:09:26scott666most were dumb to begin with
06:09:29PsycoXulheh
06:09:37PsycoXulbut yeah that's generaly what i gather about them
06:10:07scott666theres this one kid at my school whos like 12
06:10:17scott666and hes in 10th grade
06:10:24PsycoXulonly people i met who really fucked themselves up with drugs in general were the people who'd just take anything anyone ever gave them any time, for like decades heh
06:10:25scott666and want to get him high so much
06:10:51scott666*and i
06:11:16scott666yeah, any _real_ drugs can fuck you up
06:11:22scott666but weed isnt
06:11:24PsycoXulheh
06:11:31PsycoXulwell nothing's all that cut and dried
06:12:02PsycoXulit's just like anything else in the world
06:12:10PsycoXulmoderation, responsible use, awareness
06:12:24scott666reponsible use of heroin?
06:12:26scott666lol
06:12:35PsycoXulheh
06:12:58PsycoXulwell heroin wasn't invented for junkies you know
06:13:16PsycoXulthey still use morphine
06:13:30PsycoXulin hospitals and such
06:13:40scott666the hippies had the right idea with drugs
06:14:07scott666mostly weed, sometimes LSD
06:14:07PsycoXulfor those cases heroin's actualy a more economical solution
06:14:15PsycoXulnot considering the legal status and such
06:14:20PsycoXulyeah
06:14:23PsycoXulpsychedellics basically
06:14:25PsycoXulheh
06:14:42PsycoXuland responsible use of such
06:15:04scott666acid has created some of the best music
06:15:24scott666ever hear of the flaming lips?
06:15:30PsycoXulheard of them yeah
06:15:39scott666they used to be a punk band
06:15:39PsycoXuldunno if i've heard anything from 'em
06:16:15scott666and then at some point htey released a cd set called 'the punk rockers finally took acid' and theyve been making great music ever since
06:16:22PsycoXulheh
06:16:26scott666www.theflaminglips.com
06:16:53scott666go to the music player for yoshimi battles hte pink robots, you can listen to the whole cd
06:16:54PsycoXulwoo this domain is for sale at domain deluxe
06:16:55PsycoXulheh
06:17:05scott666really?
06:17:08PsycoXulyeah :/
06:17:35PsycoXulis it flaminglips.com?
06:18:08scott666http://www.flaminglips.com/main.php
06:18:23PsycoXulyeah i found it
06:18:25PsycoXulheh
06:18:50scott666go to the Yoshimi album audio player
06:18:55scott666bottom left
06:19:09PsycoXuli'm just waiting for this album to finish
06:19:10PsycoXulPlaying MPEG stream from 14 - A Wolf At The Door.mp3 ...
06:19:34scott666heh, ok
06:20:35PsycoXuli can't hear it though
06:20:35PsycoXulheh
06:20:59scott666turn up the volume?
06:21:05PsycoXulvolume's fine
06:21:30scott666are you on broadband?
06:21:45PsycoXuldsl
06:22:11scott666mm
06:22:14scott666*hmm
06:22:18scott666does it do anything??
06:22:50PsycoXulyeah it sits there acting like it's playing
06:22:54PsycoXuljust no sound heh
06:24:02scott666hmm
06:24:05scott666thats no good
06:24:17scott666press 'play'?
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06:31:43PsycoXulahh it was the 2 different flash things conflicting with the sound
06:31:43PsycoXulheh
06:31:56scott666so you got it to play?
06:31:58PsycoXulyeah
06:32:16scott666what'd'ya think?
06:32:34PsycoXulwell i'll have to listen :p
06:32:44scott666well get listening!
06:32:51PsycoXuli am :p
06:32:58scott666good
06:33:00scott666lol
06:34:44PsycoXulbut the player plays the modem version
06:35:04scott666it still sounds decent
06:35:08PsycoXuleh
06:35:12scott666considering its free
06:35:15PsycoXuleh
06:35:19PsycoXuli don't buy music anyway
06:35:20PsycoXulheh
06:35:27scott666heh
06:35:42scott666hear about the RIAA's 911 subpeonas?
06:35:48PsycoXulit sounds pretty crappy :p
06:35:50PsycoXulwhats that?
06:35:57PsycoXulno
06:36:04scott666www.slashdot.org
06:36:54PsycoXulhaha flash mobs
06:37:26scott666heh
06:39:38scott666if you love the cd and ask nicely ill send you my 192kbps rip of it
06:39:58PsycoXulheh
06:40:22scott666it does sound _much_ better
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06:41:01scott666AHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! GHOST!!!!!!
06:41:12scott666*hides under the couch*
06:41:16PsycoXulactualy the player sounds like a quality between the modem and broadband options in the audio tab thing on the main page
06:41:19PsycoXulheh
06:41:48*scott666 peeks out from under couch
06:41:51scott666oh
06:41:57scott666guest
06:42:03scott666fuck i need my glasses
06:42:11scott666heh
06:42:15PsycoXulheh
06:44:21scott666"It's all about taking an electronic device and turning it into something totally unrecognizable that does something totally different. For example, I modded my Xbox to play Commodore 64 games, my digital clock to be a sundial, my microwave to be an anti-salesman irradiation device, and my toaster to be a sexual aid. "
06:44:54scott666lol
06:44:59PsycoXulheh
06:45:19scott666the last ones best
06:45:40scott666cause just....how?!
06:45:46PsycoXulhehe
06:45:57PsycoXuldo you really wanna know? :p
06:46:06Guesthi guys... no i'm not Ghost ;) but a real guest, browsing the depths of Rockbox site. Good joke BTW :o)
06:46:08scott666not really
06:46:23scott666dont thank us, we didnt make it
06:46:52Guestmake what
06:47:09scott666well you said we were doing a good job
06:47:19scott666were you just commenting on our conversaion?
06:47:48Guestgood joke ! (you really need your glasses)
06:48:12scott666oh yoshimi....they dont believe me....but you wont let those robots eat me
06:48:39scott666what joke? i was serious!
06:49:02scott666we have nothing to do with the site
06:49:05Guestno, i was saying good joke, speaking of your joke (sex toaster, etc . )
06:49:10scott666ahh
06:49:12scott666ok
06:49:31Guesthehe
06:49:36scott666'sex toaster, etc.'
06:49:43scott666thats not a phrase you hear nearly common enough
06:50:01Guestyep, had to think twice BTW
06:50:02PsycoXulheh
06:50:22scott666and its not mine, i just copy-pasted it from some source ive since forgotten
06:50:37scott666possibly www.bash.org
06:50:38PsycoXuldigital sundials and sex toasters, ahh the wonders of modern life
06:50:47scott666heh
06:51:59Guestok i leave you now, going 2 bed... if ever i come back i will probably use "Gazel" nickname
06:52:08Guest..oh and i have a Fm-rec
06:52:09scott666ok
06:52:13scott666me too
06:52:23PsycoXulheh
06:52:27Guesti've seen in the mailing-list log
06:52:51Guestkeep the good work, i wish i had time to help you all
06:53:12Guestbye ;)
06:53:18PsycoXulnight
06:53:18scott666l8er
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06:56:14scott666you know what the best feature of mIRC is?
06:56:18*scott666 slaps PsycoXul around a bit with a large trout
06:56:23PsycoXulthe uninstaller
06:56:33*scott666 slaps scott666 around a bit with a large trout
06:56:44PsycoXulhey now
06:56:48*scott666 slaps scott666 around a bit with a large trout
06:56:54*scott666 slaps thu around a bit with a large trout
06:56:55PsycoXulthat trout's not welcome
06:57:00scott666heh
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07:10:26scott666whatd ya think of flaming lips?
07:13:15PsycoXulstill listening
07:13:17PsycoXulpretty good
07:18:19scott666iff i stop talking cause ive passed out
07:18:21scott666just in case
07:18:38PsycoXulheh
07:19:10scott666*its cause
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08:20:41thumy external voltage dropped to 1.8x V
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08:32:35midknight2k3hello hello
08:43:51midknight2k3scott
08:43:54midknight2k3thu
08:43:56midknight2k3elinenbe
08:43:58midknight2k3hardeep
08:44:05midknight2k3ClosetPacifist
08:44:08midknight2k3is nobody here?
08:44:10thuget a life midknight2k3
08:44:15midknight2k3lol
08:44:20midknight2k3i have one
08:44:23midknight2k3it is functional
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08:54:11midknight2k3edx
08:54:44edxsup
08:54:57midknight2k3nobody is talking
08:55:00midknight2k3it is boring in here
08:55:09midknight2k3thu thinks i should get a life
08:55:18midknight2k3of course, that must mean improve my life
08:55:44edxlol
08:55:50edxsorry but i gotta leave you too
08:55:54midknight2k3uh oh
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08:55:58midknight2k3oh well lol
08:55:59midknight2k3bye
08:56:03midknight2k3whereever you go
08:56:04edx`outlater..
08:56:11midknight2k3:D
08:57:38*thu is trying hard to start a lug
08:57:46thuDND
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08:58:12midknight2k3meaning?
08:58:24midknight2k3do not disturb?
08:58:28midknight2k3how can i do that?
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09:08:21scott666nm.,;/
09:08:31midknight2k3?
09:08:36midknight2k3lol
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10:45:43bobTHChi all
10:45:48midknight2k3hey
10:45:53midknight2k3lol
10:45:56midknight2k3"all" means me
10:46:20bobTHC:)
10:46:34midknight2k3what time is it?
10:46:44bobTHC10:48
10:46:47bobTHCam
10:46:53midknight2k31:46am here
10:47:39bobTHCouch... late
10:47:47midknight2k3im busy lol
10:48:30bobTHCwhere are u from?
10:48:45midknight2k3seattle
10:48:56midknight2k3man am i tired
10:49:12bobTHCgood night
10:49:16midknight2k3when this download is done im goin lol
10:50:23bobTHCdo u know the seattle wireless comunity ?
10:50:41midknight2k3never heard of it
10:51:02bobTHChttp://www.seattlewireless.net/
10:51:21midknight2k3i will.. remem... ber that... zzzzzzzzzzz
10:51:28midknight2k3bye lol
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11:24:37blastman007huhu i need help!
11:24:59Bagderwith what?
11:25:12blastman007with the daily builds
11:25:19blastman007whats the ucl file?
11:25:32Bagderthere's an explanation below the table
11:25:43blastman007but i dont knwo what to do
11:25:56Bagderwith the ucl?
11:26:19blastman007yews
11:26:39Bagderare you attempting to flash your recorder?
11:26:52blastman007what is "flash" ?
11:27:13Bagderthen I guess you're not ;-)
11:27:28Bagderto flash is to reprogram the built-in software
11:27:34Bagderon the chip
11:27:39Bagdernot just on disk
11:27:49blastman007oh
11:28:09blastman007ok thank you
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11:58:56Bagderfood!
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12:52:30tracktheripperBagder the Jackpot game does not work on the Recorder :(
12:53:59tracktherippersomeone help me with the Calender plugin plz
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13:02:33Bagderthe jackpot game is a player game
13:04:14tracktheripperyea but why hasnt it also been done for the Recorder?
13:04:23Bagderfeel free to fix
13:04:29tracktheripper:-(
13:05:13tracktheripperwhat is the jackbot game anyway?
13:06:12BagderI haven't tried it ;-)
13:07:51tracktheripperits an insult that a game gets done for the Player but not for the Recorder
13:08:06Bagderso fix it and stop whining
13:09:00tracktheripperi cant program :-(
13:12:44Bagderlearn!
13:12:46Bagder:-)
13:13:11tracktheripperwell all i know is a bit of BASIC
13:14:03tracktheripperthat is "Beginners All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code"
13:14:07tracktheripperBadger :-)
13:14:19BagderI learned basic as my first programming language
13:14:23Bagderback in 1985
13:14:28tracktheripper:D
13:14:38Bagderthen assembler
13:14:48Bagder6502
13:15:12tracktheripper:P
13:15:52tracktheripperwhen ar Archos gonna update their firmwares?
13:16:06Bagdermy guess: never
13:16:18Bagderwhy would they?
13:16:30tracktheripperto compete with Rockbox of course!
13:16:32Bagderthey don't care about a bunch of bugs
13:16:35Bagderit basicly works
13:17:08tracktheripperBagder I cant believe the LCD lost its vertical hold when recording via the Archos firmware!!!!
13:17:26Bagderhehe
13:17:54tracktheripperHow on earth can an LCD lose its vertical hold?!?!?!
13:19:17tracktheripperi emailed them about the problem
13:19:46Bagderany reply?
13:19:54tracktheripperyes
13:20:17tracktheripperthey said "Thank you for reporting this to us. With your feedback we can make the firmware even better"
13:20:35Bagderhahaha
13:21:48tracktheripperI also asked them "When can we have playlists with more than 999 songs"?
13:22:28Bagderand when will they?
13:23:16tracktheripperthey replied "You need to puchase the latest version of MusicMatch to have playlists more than 999 songs"
13:23:34Bagderthey did?
13:23:38Bagdergee
13:23:51tracktheripperyea
13:23:56tracktherippernot joking
13:24:44tracktheripperthis is the best one Bagder!
13:26:07tracktheripperthey actually asked me how to work the SPDIF socket!
13:27:18Bagderthe SPDIF socket?
13:27:35tracktheripperyea the digital in/out on the Recorder
13:28:42tracktheripperthey didn;t know what lead goes into it
13:29:00Bagderweird
13:29:11tracktheripperlol
13:30:14tracktheripperjust for a joke i emailed them "When can we have time-stretching" they replied "Thank you for your suggestion for the latest firmware release"
13:30:32Bagderheh
13:31:28tracktheripperyou should hear their voices on the tech support line
13:32:15tracktheripper"wee weell updatee zeee firmwareee if weee have eeennuuufffff buggs reeporrteeeed to ussssss and ifff weeeee cann feeeex them" :-)
13:37:33tracktheripper:)
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15:40:17juz`hello my "viewer.rock" plugins dosnt work whereas all other plugins works it say "plugins returned error" is it the plugins which have a bug??it told it since very long time
15:42:43BagderI don't know
15:43:33juz`dost it wok with your archos?
15:43:55BagderI haven't tried it
15:43:58juz`ok
15:44:01*Bagder ducks
15:44:03Bagder:-)
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15:44:56juz`you should try it fantastic there are many features like calandar!!!!
15:45:11BagderI know
15:45:27juz`tractheripper:my "viewer.rock" plugins dosnt work whereas all other plugins works it say "plugins returned error" is it the plugins which have a bug??it told it since very long time
15:47:40tracktheripper?????
15:47:48tracktheripperBagder how can I set the calendar to 2003
15:47:52tracktheripperits on 2063!!!
15:47:54Bagderask the author
15:47:59tracktherippergrrrrrr
15:48:11tracktheripperBagder you can be as useful as a chocolate furnace sometimes! :-)
15:48:13tracktheripperjoke
15:49:00juz`track the ripper i think it your date wich set the calendar to 2003, check your date
15:49:09tracktheripperoh righty
15:49:11tracktheripperlet me try that
15:49:28tracktheripperive just polished my Archos to a brilliant shine :-)
15:49:51juz`yeah!
15:50:22tracktheripperthats what I like about the metal chassis, you can polish it!
15:51:18juz`a ok
15:51:25juz`sorry i m french
15:51:34tracktheripperlol
15:51:46tracktheripperwheres bagder?
15:52:02juz`i thinked you told a metaphore for saying raock box is very exelent
15:52:45juz`i gone bye
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15:59:25tracktheripperBagder is there a size limit on individual plug ins?
15:59:33Bagderyes
15:59:46Bagderbut I don't recall the exact limit right now
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16:00:34tracktheripperoh ok
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17:26:25scott666im awake!
17:28:27scott666how are you gentlemen?
17:28:34scott666you have no chance to survive make your time
17:28:44scott666all your base are belong to us
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18:03:43diddystar5hardeep: i tried to make a patch where users could custumize the bounce text, but all it does is display when i tested it
18:05:04diddystar5* display garbage
18:07:37diddystar5i don't know very much about the api all i told it to do is open a file and display it
18:08:25hardeepdiddystar5: where's your code?
18:08:53diddystar5on my puter
18:09:12hardeepdiddystar5: heh, well i'd need to see it to tell you what's wrong
18:09:35diddystar5one min i'm getting a fresh source to do it with
18:12:17diddystar5this is all i changed orig: char* rock="Rockbox! Pure pleasure. Pure fun. Oooh. What fun! ;-) "; new: char* rock=rb->open("/.rockbox/bounce.txt",O_RDONLY);
18:12:58hardeepdiddystar5: open() only opens a file for reading, it doesn't return the string
18:13:10diddystar5what do i use then lseek?
18:13:30hardeepdiddystar5: you'll have to open(), read(), close().
18:14:00diddystar5ok ill change it a bit thanks
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18:21:11diddystar5i think its gonna work now!
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18:35:24diddystar5humm i almost have i think must be something very simple i'm missing...
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18:51:03diddystar5arggg im getting "parse" errors
18:52:30tracktheripperhello diddystar
18:52:36diddystar5i think my problem is when i say rock=user_text;
18:52:43diddystar5hey track
18:55:28diddystar5is it ok in c to say int1=int2; ?
18:56:04scott666it should be
18:56:43diddystar5i've been learning c++ and not just c...
18:57:08scott666yeah i took a class on C++ last year
18:57:23scott666havnt worked with c yet
18:57:44scott666but i dont know why you wouldnt be able to use int1=int2
18:57:46scott666;
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21:05:19midknight2k3Boredom
21:05:23midknight2k3right on
21:05:38Boredomhehe
21:07:31Boredomconsidering buying a jukebox 20 with the rockbox bios on it. Anything i should ask the guy such as does it still work? heh
21:07:52midknight2k3lol
21:07:55midknight2k3a jukebox 20
21:07:58midknight2k3is that recorder or player?
21:08:06Boredomhm let me look
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21:08:44Boredommust be the player he said no to the recording
21:09:00midknight2k3i'd recommend a recorder
21:09:08DamimalAnyone try flashing there FM Recorder yet? Does it work well?
21:09:12midknight2k3i did
21:09:16midknight2k3it's great
21:09:21midknight2k3very quick loading
21:09:27Boredomwhats so different about a recorder?
21:09:27DamimalDid you use the ucl file?
21:09:56midknight2k3it has custom fonts, games, demos, 8 lines versus the player's 2....
21:10:09midknight2k3basically it can do anything
21:10:37Boredomhmm
21:10:50midknight2k3it's a noteworthy upgrade
21:10:58midknight2k3even if you don't record often
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21:12:32Boredomwhat about the multimedia one? are they any good
21:12:45midknight2k3they don't support rockbox
21:12:52midknight2k3the fm recorder is the best that supports rockbox
21:12:55midknight2k3in my option
21:13:02midknight2k3opinion*
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21:15:59Norrinmidknight2k3: did you use the rockbox_flash.rock file to flash the current build or did you use the files off Joerg's website?
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21:16:54googoogaigaiyay
21:17:03googoogaigaiwho is this "googoogaigai"?
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21:20:22Boredomwb
21:21:00Boredomhm heres a multimedia 20 for 167.50
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21:23:04googoogaigaii hope thats the end of that
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21:27:06midknight2k3argh
21:31:47Boredomo.O
21:31:57midknight2k30.o
21:32:00midknight2k3oops
21:32:02midknight2k3lol
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21:32:38BoredomOOO.o
21:32:45midknight2k3no
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21:32:47midknight2k3lol
21:32:55midknight2k3oh it's mr.has-a-life-thu!
21:33:14thuyeah
21:33:16thuit is me !!
21:33:26midknight2k3yes !!
21:33:32*thu wondering what to put on a guy's website
21:33:45thusome people are nice enough to leave their home dirs 666
21:33:56thuwell htmls rather
21:34:26midknight2k3i know
21:34:27midknight2k3how about
21:34:34midknight2k3"googoogaigai"
21:34:37midknight2k3rats
21:34:39midknight2k3he left :D
21:35:46Norrinmidknight2k3: did you use the rockbox_flash.rock file to flash the current build or did you use the files off Joerg's website?
21:36:12midknight2k3i did jorg's files first
21:36:14midknight2k3just to see
21:36:17midknight2k3then i flashedmy own copy
21:36:24midknight2k3aka daily build
21:36:45NorrinEvery time I run the rockbox_flash.rock file, it says "No image".
21:37:03NorrinCopied the rockbox.ucl to both the root directory and the .rockbox/rocks directory
21:37:51midknight2k3rockbox_flash.rock
21:38:06midknight2k3it needs to be firmware flash.rock
21:38:10midknight2k3if it's the first time
21:38:50NorrinSo flash it first using Joerg's files then flash with rockbox_flash.rock for daily build?
21:39:25midknight2k3yes
21:39:38midknight2k3flash first with firmware_flash.rock
21:39:47midknight2k3then rockbox_flash.rock for casual flashing
21:39:54midknight2k3of daily builds or whatnot
21:41:28NorrinI'll give it a try. Do you understand why the rockbox_flash.rock won't work without going through the firmware_flash.rock first?
21:41:41midknight2k3yeah
21:41:47midknight2k3firmware isn't gone to rockbox yet
21:41:58midknight2k3firmware flash.rock will put archos and rockbox firmware on chip
21:42:14midknight2k3rockbox flash.rock will update or rewrite the rockbox section of the chip
21:42:47NorrinThanks, I'll let you know how it goes.
21:42:59midknight2k3stay here
21:43:00midknight2k3dont go
21:43:10midknight2k3i wish to hear
21:43:15midknight2k3it should be fine
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21:46:34midknight2k3edx
21:46:36midknight2k3is back
21:46:39midknight2k3from last night
21:47:29edxLOL
21:47:41midknight2k3what what did i miss
21:48:05edxnothing at all, i guess ;)
21:48:22midknight2k3lol
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21:56:04midknight2k3aww rats
21:58:22scott666hey!
21:58:28midknight2k3hey
21:58:37midknight2k3i get the spleen
21:58:42scott666lol
21:58:47scott666did i say something this morning?
21:58:55midknight2k3not that i know of
21:59:04scott666h/o
21:59:10midknight2k3?
21:59:25midknight2k3hold on
21:59:27midknight2k3i get it
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22:00:06scott666*scrolls up*
22:00:51Norrinmidknight2k3, firmware flash.rock worked. Get an incompatible version error running rockbox flash.rock
22:01:03midknight2k3so it's flashed?
22:01:05midknight2k3yoohoo
22:01:08midknight2k3it starts quick
22:01:10midknight2k3right?
22:01:12scott666download a fresh copy
22:01:15midknight2k3yeah
22:01:18scott666<scott666> nm.,;/
22:01:18scott666<midknight2k3> ?
22:01:18scott666<midknight2k3> lol
22:01:26midknight2k3oh yeah
22:01:29midknight2k3out of the blue
22:01:32midknight2k3what did you mean by that
22:01:36midknight2k3norrin
22:01:37scott666i was asleep
22:01:40scott666lol
22:01:51scott666mightve been a cat
22:01:54midknight2k3you need the same rockbox flash.rock as the version you are using
22:02:04midknight2k3lol
22:02:05scott666mightve been my hand hitting hte keyboard
22:02:10midknight2k3the keys are in a row
22:02:11scott666i dont really know
22:02:20midknight2k3nm,.;/
22:02:24midknight2k3lol
22:02:31midknight2k3a cat stepped on it while you slept
22:02:49scott666cats arent smart enough to walk like that though
22:02:56midknight2k3yeah
22:02:57scott666its a line!
22:03:01scott666nm,.;/
22:03:17scott666proably shift too
22:03:21midknight2k3yeah
22:03:23midknight2k3nm,./;
22:03:28Norrinokay, have the 07-25-03 version of rockbox flash.rock and the ucl. Does the ucl go in the root directory or the .rockbox/rocks directory?
22:03:30midknight2k3very much in a line
22:03:35midknight2k3root
22:03:36scott666root
22:03:41midknight2k3i win
22:03:45scott666damn!
22:03:45scott666lol
22:04:02scott666the calender is messed up
22:04:06midknight2k3i bet
22:04:08scott666half the words go off the edge
22:04:45midknight2k3i bet
22:04:49midknight2k3"LOL"
22:05:21 Join Galik [0] (~galik@195.137.124.20)
22:05:50midknight2k3galik
22:05:57midknight2k3now it seems like i know everyone
22:06:09midknight2k3i have talked to galik before i know it
22:06:10midknight2k3:)
22:09:50scott666yeah, he sounds like hes your long lost brother
22:10:06midknight2k3what is that supposed to mean?
22:10:31scott666it was sarcasm, because he didnt respond to you at all
22:10:50Galiklo
22:11:20midknight2k3lo
22:11:22NorrinSUCCESS! Had an earlier version as my ajz file.
22:11:30midknight2k3yay
22:11:31midknight2k3flashed?
22:11:36NorrinThus the incompatible warning.
22:11:38midknight2k3tada and you're done
22:11:40NorrinYep, smokin!
22:11:46midknight2k3quick boot woohoo
22:11:59Galikis flashing dangerous at all?
22:12:04 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@pD9512708.dip.t-dialin.net)
22:12:11Galiklike can u loose your juke?
22:12:23scott666its not flashing thats dangerous
22:12:28scott666its failed flashing
22:12:34NorrinAnother question, if the FM Recorder comes with a 2200Mah battery, why have the option to change the setting under General settings, system?
22:12:48midknight2k3well
22:12:49scott666becuase you can with the red
22:12:51midknight2k3if you have a recorder
22:12:52scott666*rec
22:12:55scott666abd player
22:12:57midknight2k3they can be different
22:12:58scott666*anad
22:12:59scott666**and
22:13:03midknight2k3LOL
22:13:05scott666god damn fingers
22:13:08scott666theyre revolting
22:13:29scott666via la revelut−−SHUT UP FINGERS
22:13:46NorrinIsn't the code different between the player, recorder, and FM recorder anyway?
22:13:53midknight2k3not really
22:13:58midknight2k3they all use the same basic thing
22:14:02midknight2k3it's just there
22:14:38scott666only difference between rec and FMR is the radio menu
22:15:05scott666player is completely different
22:15:50NorrinI'm under the understanding the FM recorder is a 2200MaH correct? Asked it once before up here but haven't seen it documented anywhere.
22:15:55midknight2k3yes
22:16:05midknight2k3i took out my battery
22:16:11midknight2k3as well as everything else lol
22:17:15midknight2k3ok ok bye
22:17:28midknight2k3have fun with flashed box norrin
22:17:37midknight2k3scott, well, you can have the lives
22:17:39NorrinCool, greatly appreciate the assist. Need to get going.
22:17:43midknight2k3livers that is
22:17:49 Part Norrin
22:18:07midknight2k3and galik, well, sniff.
22:18:20 Quit midknight2k3 ("goo goo gai gai -=SysReset 2.53=-")
22:52:03 Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se)
22:52:25[IDC]DragonAh, welcome back.
22:52:47[IDC]DragonSleepy Jörg missed you yesterday.
22:53:08Zagorheh, yeah i saw
22:53:47[IDC]DragonSomebody made I patch I liked: "playing" ucl
22:54:01Zagoryeah, that was a good idea
22:54:26[IDC]DragonI worked the filename parameter into my plugin, but haven't touched the rockbox code yet.
22:54:39[IDC]DragonReason:
22:54:57[IDC]DragonHe used anothe one of the precious attribute bits.
22:55:50Zagoryeah. we need a method to link plugins to file types.
22:55:57mecrawi'm glad someone liked it :)
22:56:17[IDC]DragonThere's no point in just munching away the bits if they will never be set simultaneously.
22:56:29[IDC]Dragonmecraw: It was you?
22:56:34mecrawyes
22:56:42[IDC]DragonOh, good.
22:57:19mecrawit makes it easy to flop back and forth between different .ucl's
22:57:29[IDC]DragonI mean, unless Zagor comes with a more generic concept, we can treat some of the bits as an enum for the supported file types.
22:58:03mecraw[IDC]Dragon: having that filename parameter in the plugin made it super easy
22:58:05[IDC]DragonSay, 4 bits give you 16 file types.
22:58:10***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
22:58:35[IDC]Dragonmecraw: yes, the code was prepared for it.
22:59:04[IDC]DragonThe plugin changes are now checked in, the parameter won't hurt even if unused.
22:59:19mecrawit's easy working "on the shoulders of giants"
22:59:29[IDC]Dragonphhh...
22:59:59[IDC]DragonZagor, what's your word on file types?
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23:01:01*[IDC]Dragon collects donations for Zagor's hearing aid
23:01:34Zagori'm saying we should not have to change tree.c to support new file types with a new plugin. thus we need a dynamic system that reads a config file.
23:02:11[IDC]DragonLooks like the not so near future...
23:02:37Zagorwell not so far either. just not tomorrow.
23:02:56[IDC]DragonOK, well, my plugin is ready for it.
23:03:57Zagorbut that enum idea is still not bad
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23:04:05[IDC]DragonI've another question about the ATA init code:
23:04:12Zagorwe still have a lot of file types that are handled internally
23:04:15blastman007hoi
23:05:23 Join midknight2k3 [0] (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com)
23:05:30midknight2k3wow
23:05:34midknight2k3it filled up quick
23:06:10[IDC]Dragonwe seem to use 10 bits of the attribute part, that would allow 1024 file types by now
23:07:17Zagori say use a new bit for now, don't make a big enum change since we'll change it soon again with the plugin dynamics
23:07:41[IDC]Dragonthat leaves only 1 bit free
23:08:13Zagorno problem
23:08:52[IDC]Dragoninterestingly, a text file is a combination of 2 bits (config+wps), was that intentionally?
23:09:08Zagorno, that's a bug
23:09:23[IDC]Dragonbut seems to work?
23:09:38[IDC]DragonSo we already can use bit combinations?
23:09:41Zagorapparently. though i bet there are some error cases.
23:09:48 Quit blastman007 ("get satisfied! • (Gamers.IRC powered by PlayerLiga.de) »» get it @ www.gamersirc.net")
23:09:54midknight2k3Zagor, the other day when recording i got a panic
23:10:08midknight2k3i will try to reproduce it later
23:10:16midknight2k3i think it was 2111 or something
23:10:20[IDC]Dragonmecraw: looks good for your patch. I'll work it in.
23:10:46mecraw[IDC]Dragon: excellent, it's been too long since i contributed
23:11:02midknight2k3i wish to do a patch lol
23:11:07midknight2k3then i will have contributed
23:11:10midknight2k3it is my goal
23:11:18[IDC]DragonWhere is the icon for known types defined?
23:11:31midknight2k3which patch, mecraw?
23:12:08Zagorapps/recorder/icons.h
23:12:45[IDC]DragonI should look before asking the obvious.
23:13:20[IDC]Dragonmecraw: your patch didn't introduce an icon.
23:13:48midknight2k3the play on UCL to flash patch?
23:13:57mecrawmidknight2k3: yes
23:14:01midknight2k3cool
23:14:09midknight2k3does rockbox flash.rock need to be in root?
23:14:18[IDC]Dragonno.
23:14:20midknight2k3or should it stay in .rockbox\rocks
23:14:24[IDC]Dragonyes.
23:14:26midknight2k3well that's very good
23:14:26mecraw[IDC]Dragon: no icon, thought it was similar enough to rolo, and i don't know how to make an icon :)
23:14:35midknight2k3i havent tried it but nice job anyhow
23:14:42midknight2k3that makes things simpler
23:14:58midknight2k3should it be implemented tomorrow?
23:15:04midknight2k3or on a bleeding edge today?
23:15:32[IDC]DragonIn an hour or so, maybe.
23:15:44midknight2k3i can reflash simpler! yay to mecraw!
23:15:48midknight2k3hip hip hooray
23:15:54 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBF6E18.ipt.aol.com)
23:16:05midknight2k3java irc
23:16:22tracktheripperhi
23:16:33[IDC]DragonZagor: do I need special right to close a patch (I stumbled over this a few times, instead made a comment that I worked it in)
23:17:11Zagorumm, yes i think so. i'll set you up.
23:17:41[IDC]DragonThanks. Also assigning them around is fun...
23:18:15tracktheripperhello
23:19:23Zagorhmm, can't you close a patch right now?
23:19:49midknight2k3well i gotta go
23:19:57midknight2k3bye bye
23:20:16 Quit midknight2k3 ("tracktheri[[er -=SysReset 2.53=-")
23:20:29[IDC]DragonZagor: about the ATA, I'd like to kick that io_address_detect() out and instead use the mask, are there any objections? (one less autodetect to fail)
23:20:49Zagorwill that always work, on players too?
23:21:05[IDC]DragonMy question to you.
23:21:43[IDC]DragonDo players come with 2 addresses?
23:21:49Zagori wasn't aware that we had found the io address in the hardware mask?
23:22:11[IDC]DragonYes, there's a definition for it.
23:22:23[IDC]DragonMaybe a Linus question.
23:22:42[IDC]DragonI'm off for a few minutes, see you.
23:27:02Zagoryou're right, hwcompat.h defines the ata address as part of the mask. well in that case I definitely think we should use that and not try to probe it.
23:30:12[IDC]DragonI'm back.
23:30:52[IDC]DragonZagor: What address do you get on a player?
23:31:25Zagori don't remember
23:31:54[IDC]DragonAnybody with a player at hand here?
23:32:18Zagorhttp://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-10/0417.shtml says mask 0000 i.e. address 300
23:32:47[IDC]DragonYes, but I'd like a reality check.
23:33:03Zagorit says the probe found 0x300 too
23:33:12[IDC]DragonAh, OK.
23:33:56[IDC]DragonWhat's the purpose of check_registers()? Just validating the address? Do we still need that?
23:34:16Zagorit's still a good check. it takes very little time.
23:35:08[IDC]DragonThe way it's programmed, it fails if busy.
23:36:34Zagorright. it should wait instead.
23:37:35[IDC]DragonDoes it have to? Are the registers not always there?
23:38:18Zagorthey are not valid while the disk is busy
23:38:52[IDC]DragonI'm trying to speed up the boot again here.
23:39:42Zagorwell i'm not overzealous about the registry check. it was mostly used to verify that our probing worked.
23:40:25 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving")
23:41:43[IDC]DragonAt some point, we have to wait anyway. You did some changes which enabled it for all, but made it slower.
23:42:18[IDC]DragonMaybe it's possible to first try the "fast" way, if that fails do the extended wait.
23:44:46ZagorI don't see how it ever was faster. how can any disk read before it's ready?
23:45:08Zagor(i'm not saying it wasn't faster, just that I don't understand how that worked)
23:45:21[IDC]DragonI think it was this ready/busy ambiguity.
23:46:08Zagorbut that means we were sending commands to it while it was still busy. and it processed them!
23:46:35[IDC]Dragonit was busy but ready.
23:46:48Zagorit can't be
23:47:14Zagora device that reports busy does not accept commands
23:47:29*[IDC]Dragon diffs the revisions...
23:47:44Zagoranyway, feel free to experiment and see if you find something interesting
23:48:55[IDC]DragonThe old code checked for ready, the new one also for busy.
23:50:23[IDC]DragonThe thing is, my disk can do the quick trick, versus other people's (like yours) can't. So if I try to build some intelligence around it, I can't fully test it.
23:50:49Zagorthe bsy|rdy check does not take extra time, since it's a one-time check not a wait
23:51:58[IDC]DragonOh, you're right.
23:53:05[IDC]DragonThen maybe it was the checking for ATA_STATUS instead of ATA_ALT_STATUS within the wait_for_bsy()?
23:54:23Zagoryeah, that could be it. the old code never actually read the status register... :-)
23:55:35[IDC]Dragonwhat is ATA_ALT_STATUS?
23:55:39 Part Galik ("Client exiting")
23:57:03Zagorit is an alternative status register located at ata_address (the one that varies). one difference from the normal status register is that reading alt_status does not reset the interrupt bit. in our code it makes no difference which register is used.
23:58:42 Quit dw|gone (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
23:58:45[IDC]Dragonthen the old code _did_ read the status register?

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