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#rockbox log for 2003-07-31

00:36:21 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m33.net81-67-42.noos.fr)
00:36:27BoD[]hello!
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01:33:34 Join FlexH [0] (~Flex@hibiscus.yoopla.org)
01:33:49FlexHhi all
01:34:52hardeephi
01:36:08FlexHi would like to know if there are french people who contribute to rockbox ? :)
01:36:37BoD[]see the credits file and look for french looking names
01:37:16FlexHok ;)
01:38:18 Join diddystar5 [0] (Lee@ACA3EEC0.ipt.aol.com)
01:38:53BoD[]i'm french :) but don't contribute
01:39:05FlexHha ok :)
01:39:22FlexHon peut parler francais ici ?
01:39:36BoD[]nop :)
01:39:44BoD[]well .. on peut
01:39:59BoD[]but it would not be very nice to the other people
01:40:21FlexHyes of course
01:42:14FlexHcan you help me in query so ?
01:42:31BoD[]maybe :)
01:43:23diddystar5hummm anon cvs is working better now
01:43:45BoD[]great
01:44:04diddystar5it's still a little slow :(
01:44:34FlexHBoD[] ? do you see my query ?
01:45:12BoD[]oh ? the query about french who contribute ?
01:45:45BoD[]well i don't know.. as I said, I think there are people with "french sounding" names on the credits file
01:46:17elinenbeFlexH: nope... no french here. (at least not from me)... je parle un peu de francais
01:46:31elinenbenot enough :(
01:46:38FlexHno :) it's about something in english that i don't understand on the website
01:46:40BoD[]like "Julien Labruyére"
01:46:48BoD[]oh
01:47:01elinenbeFlexH: what?
01:47:02BoD[]what don't you understand then
01:47:32FlexHit's about the flash of the archos with rockbox
01:48:46FlexHHW info give me "??" and i would like to know if there is a chance to do the flash by another method ?
01:49:30BoD[]sorry I don't know :)
01:49:40diddystar5nope not unless you cut out the old chip, and put in a new one :(
01:50:25FlexHdiddystar5 : yes that is what i want to do but anybody have tried that before ?
01:50:55diddystar5no one has tried that one yet
01:51:39FlexHarg :(
01:52:11diddystar5i'm curious how archos flashed their crap in those few chips
01:52:58FlexHyes me too
01:55:17FlexHi'm scared to do hardware mod on my juxebox :(
01:56:14PlughI'll do a HD upgrade, but not the RAM :)
01:56:45Plughand much as I'd love to do the remote control upgrade, I use line in for recording
01:57:06diddystar5i would do the ram mod, if i could get the chip without ordering it
01:57:30Plughyou don't have any electronic supply stores?
01:57:41FlexHi want to change my eprom to to the flash mod !
01:58:04PlughYou may be able to get it through Radio Shack's special order
01:58:12diddystar5humm radio shack, but they don't have it there also a few local stores, but i haven't tried them
01:58:41diddystar5Plugh: maybe... might just try that
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02:36:35 Join Mighty_ [0] (mboss@h72n1fls35o931.telia.com)
02:37:05Mighty_everyone's asleep?
02:37:40scott666im not!
02:37:50FlexHim not too
02:38:19Plughnot me
02:38:23Plughjust got a headache
02:42:36Mighty_you're using emacs?
02:43:04Mighty_I've not used an editor that I've felt comfortable with since Borland 4.5
02:43:45Mighty_decided I'll have a first look at emacs this night, just have to learn a real editor, can't spend more time in KWrite :-/
02:43:58Mighty_but I don't know whether to go for emacs or xemacs
02:44:14PsycoXulemacs would be a good OS if it had a decent text editor
02:44:15PsycoXuluse vim!
02:46:13Mighty_I had a look at vim, hmm
02:46:26Mighty_why would I chose vim instead of emacs? :-))
02:46:37Mighty_i saw ecb and thought that would be nice to use
02:46:53Mighty_http://ecb.sourceforge.net/
02:47:16FlexHgood night all
02:47:42 Quit FlexH ("In /dev/null no one can hear you scream")
02:50:47PlughMighty_: I used to use an editor that used the wordstar keys, same as the Borland Turbo Pascal editor
02:50:56Plughtrying to find it in Linux
02:51:14Mighty_hmm
02:51:26Mighty_I really want to learn emacs or xemacs
02:51:38Mighty_ought to talk to zagor, but he seems to sleep or something
02:52:31Plughhttp://freshmeat.net/projects/crisp/?topic_id=65
02:53:41Mighty_not free ? :-/
02:53:58Plughfree for personal non-commercial, non-supported use
02:54:34scott666who needs support anyway?
02:54:49Mighty_looks nice
02:56:12PlughI'm downloading it now
02:56:36Plughuse wordstar compat mode. That's what Borland used
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03:02:40Mighty_hmmm, sad it isn't opensource
03:03:47PlughI agree
03:05:05 Join johnny24601 [0] (~anywho888@beta.dsl.visi.com)
03:05:32johnny24601hey guys
03:05:36scott666hey
03:05:48johnny24601i'm having a problem with my jukebox 6000
03:06:26johnny24601when i try to boot it up, i get the error message "part. error pls chck hd"
03:07:07johnny24601i've looked around the site, and it seemed that the only way to fix it is to disassemble my player
03:07:20johnny24601i am wondering if there is a non-invasive alternative
03:07:39scott666i dont have a player, so i have no idea
03:07:56johnny24601why are you here?
03:08:10scott666i have an FM recorder
03:08:39johnny24601ok
03:09:00Plughwhen you plug it into your PC, do you get the new drive letter?
03:10:23Plughbloody hell
03:10:24johnny24601nope
03:10:30Plughcrisp is a 21 day trial
03:11:23johnny24601do you know how to fix my problem?
03:13:01MTuse a disk management software
03:13:11PlughI know how, but you won't like it
03:13:25johnny24601take the hd out and put it in a laptop?
03:13:37Plughyou can get an adapter for a desktop
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03:13:43scott666yeah
03:13:47Plughcosts like 5 bucks
03:13:56Plughcheaper than $200 for a new one
03:14:25scott666yeah but the new one would be 60 gigs
03:14:34Plughbut in answer to your original question, I don't know of any non-invasive procedures
03:14:40johnny24601what do you mean my disk management software?
03:15:02Plughif it doesn't show up on the USB, there's not much you can do with that drive stuck inside the little box
03:15:27 Join Jensing [0] (Jensing@pcp289373pcs.owngsm01.md.comcast.net)
03:15:39PlughI suspect your data is toast.
03:15:58Plughread the stuff on the rockbox site about upgrading your drive
03:16:06johnny24601i had this problem like a year or two ago, and i was able to download a program that fixed it
03:16:08Plughabout formatting it FAT32 and stuff
03:16:39Jensingwhat is the problem Plugh
03:16:46johnny24601the program was on the archos website
03:16:59Plughask Johnny
03:17:35Plughhis partition table is cooked
03:18:06Jensingcan't he fix that with Partition Magic
03:18:19MTPlugh: thats not strictly true...
03:18:35MTit just means the partitions are not mountable
03:18:52 Join diddystar5 [0] (diddystar5@AC9E2CC8.ipt.aol.com)
03:19:10MTif the hardware (minus the drive/partitions) works correctly, its just a mass storage device
03:19:25diddystar5hey MT
03:19:45MThello
03:19:47MTand nn
03:21:07diddystar5MT: i don't know why, but when i use your patch, and try to run another plugin, i get io6 .... whatever errors
03:21:39MTyou have to recompile all plugins with the same plugin API
03:21:46diddystar5i did
03:21:54MTas my patch changes the plugin API
03:21:55MToh
03:21:59MTwell, works fine here
03:22:20diddystar5and i have changed my flashed build to up to date with the api
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04:04:27Jensinghey Plugh?
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04:23:32scott666how are you gentlement?
04:23:40scott666you have no chance to survive make your time
04:25:06diddystar5hey
04:25:36diddystar5i'm making the chip8 emulator a plugin!
04:28:40diddystar5i'm having some problems getting some api stuff into plugin.c arggg
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08:20:51 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se)
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08:51:02 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se)
08:51:42Bagder'ello
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09:06:35dwihnoHei
09:06:41Bagdermorning
09:07:59dwihno:-D
09:08:04dwihnoAre you happy today?
09:08:13BagderI am
09:08:20Bagdergonna get my car today
09:08:30Bagderhad a break-in into it on saturday
09:08:37Bagderbeen repaired since
09:09:17dwihno:-(
09:09:22dwihnoDid you lose anything?
09:09:35dwihnoDamn you, evil stockholmian break-inners!
09:09:36Bagderonly my stereo and the car manual
09:09:46Bagderand they broke a window
09:09:57Bagderand damaged some interiors with the huge stone they used
09:10:37dwihnoCar manual? :(
09:10:51Bagderyeah I have no clue why they took that
09:10:52dwihnoThe stereo, I can understand. But what would they do with the manual?
09:11:11Bagderpossibly to get the stereo manual, but I don't know
09:11:54 Join midknight2k3 [0] (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com)
09:11:59midknight2k3grr
09:12:08midknight2k3we desperately need replacement firmware for the rio riot
09:12:15midknight2k3you bums should have done that lol
09:12:21Bagderhah
09:12:48midknight2k3wish rockbox could be ported to the riot
09:15:16midknight2k3think about it
09:15:21midknight2k3would kill the ipod
09:15:34BagderI doubt that
09:15:39Bagderriot is not made by apple
09:15:56adi|homei really really don't get why everyone wants to 'kill the ipod'
09:16:03midknight2k3i don't
09:16:05midknight2k3but it would
09:16:06adi|homeknow what.. ppl are going to buy units they want no matter what we do
09:16:08adi|home:)
09:16:10midknight2k3for about 300 bux less
09:16:25Bagderbut its also a lesser unit, right?
09:16:31midknight2k3riot?
09:16:41midknight2k3if we had you guys on it, it would probably be a mdeia player
09:17:08midknight2k3grayscale 2.5 screen, like that, nice drive..
09:18:17midknight2k3its just
09:18:26midknight2k3if you can do what you have to something like the archos
09:18:36midknight2k3you can do wonders for the riot ;)
09:19:42Bagderwhat cpu is it?
09:19:54midknight2k3let me see
09:20:00midknight2k3its an ARM im sure
09:20:07midknight2k3the model can be said for sure in a fe seconds
09:20:36midknight2k3hmm
09:20:41midknight2k3these guys dont seem to know
09:20:43dwihnoHow much of the code could be re-used?
09:20:44midknight2k3i think its a
09:20:54dwihnofile system drivers, main logic?
09:20:54midknight2k3Cirruss Logic ARM-720T
09:21:10midknight2k3i have no idea there
09:21:31midknight2k3you can get the bin file from the exe installer that flashes the riot but not much more
09:21:35Bagderthe main logic could probably be re-used, but drivers would need to be written
09:21:51midknight2k3the main issue is that it can't do download to pc from riot
09:22:12midknight2k3and of course the fact that it could do a lot of other stuff :D
09:22:39midknight2k3aha
09:22:42Bagderthen again
09:22:47Bagderlinux runs on that cpu
09:22:47midknight2k3EP7312
09:22:50midknight2k3yeah
09:22:56midknight2k3they did linux on it before
09:23:02midknight2k3of course no info to the public lol
09:23:05midknight2k3linux on a rioriot
09:23:10midknight2k3cant even imagine ;)
09:23:21Bagder"clock speeds up to 74 and 90 MHz"
09:23:31midknight2k3here
09:23:32midknight2k3We have run linux 2.4 on the Riot before now, but you need serious hardware skills (ie, soldering) in order to get your own firmware onto the device as the firmware upgrades are encrypted.
09:23:32midknight2k3Report to moderator
09:23:48*Bagder reports
09:23:48midknight2k3some sonicblue engineer
09:23:50dwihnomidknight2k3: any cool URL's?
09:23:50Bagder;-P
09:23:57Bagderhttp://www.cirrus.com/en/products/pro/detail/P139.html
09:23:57midknight2k3actually
09:23:59BagderB-]
09:24:10midknight2k3http://www.rioworld.org/yabbse/index.php
09:24:15midknight2k3a good rio forum
09:24:18midknight2k3has some info i suppose
09:25:04Bagderhaha
09:25:07Bagderlook here
09:25:11Bagderhttp://www.cirrus.com/en/products/app/detail/A19.html
09:25:25Bagdercirrus suggested way to build an mp3 player with that cpu
09:25:35midknight2k3lol
09:25:43midknight2k3god i have no idea the cpy
09:25:45midknight2k3cpu
09:25:51midknight2k3like three different ideas
09:26:03midknight2k3from vrious people
09:30:07Bagderdoes it appear as a disk when you connect it to your computer?
09:30:10BagderI mean usb-wise
09:30:16midknight2k3nope
09:30:21midknight2k3but new drivers could take care of that
09:30:44midknight2k3you use a music manager to transfer to "device" but no pulling off the drive
09:30:56midknight2k3and windows xp plus pack or wahtever
09:31:04Bagdercrap
09:31:04midknight2k3but not a drive
09:31:12midknight2k3i know
09:31:16BagderI bet its impossible to use with linux too
09:31:16midknight2k3them bums
09:31:17midknight2k3lol
09:31:29midknight2k3yeah
09:32:12BagderI would never consider buying such crap
09:32:26midknight2k3you would if there was rockbox for riots
09:32:28midknight2k3:D
09:32:30Bagdernope
09:32:38midknight2k3why not?
09:32:44Bagderbecause I run linux only
09:32:53midknight2k3oh ohohohoh
09:32:58midknight2k3you can use with linux
09:33:04midknight2k3rioutil.sourceforge.net
09:33:09midknight2k3i thought you meant otherwise
09:33:23midknight2k3i thought you meant linux would be hard to use if put on the riot
09:33:23midknight2k3lol
09:33:50BagderI would still be reluctant
09:33:58midknight2k3why
09:34:08Bagderbecause it isnt usb-storage
09:34:17midknight2k3well
09:34:20midknight2k3if rockbox existed
09:34:22BagderI like that
09:34:23midknight2k3it would be
09:34:28Bagderwell
09:34:28midknight2k3yeah
09:34:31midknight2k3it stucks
09:34:33midknight2k3sucks
09:34:42Bagderlet me know when that works and I'll reconsider then :-P
09:34:48midknight2k3a new driver could be made but right now we have no info on it at all
09:34:52midknight2k3lol
09:35:11midknight2k3sigh
09:35:19midknight2k3we'll never get out of this mess
09:41:43midknight2k3any new rockbox plans coming up?
09:41:50midknight2k3new settings or anything?
09:42:08BagderI want the bookmark patch in
09:42:22midknight2k3in patch section?
09:42:25midknight2k3i shall see about this
09:42:27Bagderand more plugins of course
09:42:37midknight2k3what do you plan for new plugins?
09:42:37dwihnoBagder: USB-storage for all!
09:42:51*dwihno has tons of USB gizmos (all USB-storage compliant)
09:42:59midknight2k3may i have one?
09:43:04dwihnoNaaah
09:43:08dwihnoI use them all :-)
09:43:16midknight2k3but
09:43:17midknight2k3but
09:43:18DBUGEnqueued KICK midknight2k3
09:43:18midknight2k3but
09:43:23midknight2k3you say "for al"
09:43:24Bagderhehe
09:43:27midknight2k3"for all" that is
09:43:30midknight2k3that's not fair
09:43:50midknight2k3this bagder?
09:43:51midknight2k3http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=669440&group_id=44306&atid=439120
09:44:23Bagderyes
09:44:33dwihnoThe thing about USB is, there is a standard, so additional "drivers" should not be needed.
09:44:36dwihnoImho.
09:44:51midknight2k3are you referring to the riot dwinho?
09:45:26dwihnoSuch as.
09:45:33midknight2k3well
09:45:42midknight2k3they did it on purpose if you mean the fact you can't take songs off it
09:45:49midknight2k3for copy protection or soemthing
09:45:53dwihnoYou should simply connect them to the computer, and then the USB-storage drivers should say "ah, more storage detected"
09:45:57midknight2k3when apple and archos already were doing it
09:46:25midknight2k3unless some dumb programmer says they don't want to use it as mass storage
09:46:29midknight2k3just a "device"
09:46:35midknight2k3>:D
09:46:37midknight2k3lol
09:46:46midknight2k3angry laughing face
09:47:39dwihno:-)
09:47:41dwihnoArchos rules!
09:47:46midknight2k3you know
09:47:50midknight2k3you're righ
09:48:01midknight2k3i love archos only of course because of rockbox
09:48:07midknight2k3you guys are the best
09:49:09dwihnoPersonally, my heroes are: Björn, Daniel, Linus - and now, because of the firmware flash, Jörg
09:49:34midknight2k3took the wrods out of my mouth :D
09:53:35midknight2k3lol
09:53:45midknight2k3i photoshopped a rio riot stomping on an ipod
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10:00:00 Join ShaWiz [0] (ShaWiz@pool-68-161-129-32.ny325.east.verizon.net)
10:00:22ShaWizHi all anyone up?
10:00:30midknight2k3me
10:00:33midknight2k3bagder i think
10:00:41ShaWizi am new here
10:00:42Bagderup up up
10:00:50dwihnoWhat is the "best" flash media type for portable mp3 players?
10:00:50Bagderwelcome!
10:00:51ShaWizbut i got a problem
10:00:53adi|homedefine up
10:01:05dwihnoCompact flash = eats batts like crazy
10:01:21midknight2k3mm
10:01:30midknight2k3smartmedia?
10:01:34midknight2k3mmc?
10:01:54ShaWizmy damn JB FM 20 keeps freezing at unpredictable points
10:02:21midknight2k3never heard of it.. i have an fm but it never locked up recently
10:02:27midknight2k3what version?
10:02:28ShaWizi just got it last week an put the rock box on it
10:02:53Bagdersounds like hw trouble
10:03:05ShaWizwhat you mean version? you wanna know my rock box version?
10:03:13Bagderyes
10:03:21ShaWizoh hold up
10:03:27CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
10:03:27*Bagder holds
10:03:35*midknight2k3 holds "up"
10:03:38midknight2k3;D
10:03:53ShaWizCVS-030730
10:04:04midknight2k3brand new
10:04:10midknight2k3hmm
10:04:13ShaWizyeah brand new
10:04:15midknight2k3must be hw trouble then
10:04:19midknight2k3unless...
10:04:30midknight2k3never mind
10:04:37midknight2k3it locks up or shuts off?
10:04:47ShaWizit locks up
10:04:49midknight2k3does rockbox give an error or anything?
10:04:52ShaWizno
10:04:55ShaWiznone
10:05:05midknight2k3just frozen?
10:05:10midknight2k3well i wuldn't know much about that
10:05:21ShaWizit works find it just freezes
10:05:22midknight2k3doesn't sound like a hardware related issue but i could be wrong
10:05:34ShaWizan i can't tell when it is gonna do it
10:05:49ShaWizthe red light says on
10:05:54Bagderif it does it with the archos firmware too, then I say return it
10:05:56midknight2k3stays on?
10:05:57ShaWizan it stops
10:06:08midknight2k3that's red led dead isnt it
10:06:13Bagdercould be, yes
10:06:22ShaWizdead?
10:06:28midknight2k3what they call it
10:06:31midknight2k3random lockups
10:06:32Bagderthe most dreaded bug known in rockbox
10:06:39midknight2k3wow
10:06:45midknight2k3it requires a reboot lol
10:06:49midknight2k3fear it!
10:06:54ShaWizyeah i know
10:06:58midknight2k3but i do admit the biggest
10:07:01ShaWizi reboot
10:07:09midknight2k3yeah
10:07:12ShaWizan it works fine again
10:07:15midknight2k3about all you can do i suspect
10:07:20midknight2k3well
10:07:38ShaWizshould i return it?
10:07:46midknight2k3here's some info
10:07:46midknight2k3http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439118&aid=622799
10:07:48ShaWizor is it normal?
10:07:51Bagderonly if it does the same when running the archos firmware
10:07:59Bagderwhich it probably doesn't
10:08:02midknight2k3but of course there's not much of a way around it supposedly
10:08:04midknight2k3from what i know
10:08:06Bagderand then its "just" a rockbox bug
10:08:19ShaWizo
10:08:30midknight2k3i dunno
10:08:32midknight2k3never happened to me
10:08:38Bagderme neither
10:08:43ShaWizi didn't like the archos fw
10:08:44midknight2k3worst i got is that PANIC rec fls -2111 or whatever
10:08:52midknight2k3lol
10:09:05midknight2k3only use it if you "have to"
10:09:16ShaWizo
10:09:28ShaWizi don't want to
10:09:40ShaWizthe locks ain't that bad
10:09:50midknight2k3well
10:09:51ShaWizfor me to use that again
10:09:55midknight2k3it's not nice having them
10:09:57midknight2k3not at all
10:10:06midknight2k3hmm
10:10:25ShaWizbut i might return it
10:10:33midknight2k3i guess it's an issue with only a select few units?
10:10:34ShaWizis clicking normal in it?
10:10:35midknight2k3well
10:10:44midknight2k3replace it if possible
10:10:45midknight2k3clicking?
10:10:54midknight2k3it's a hard drive, it clicks on spinup+down
10:11:06ShaWizis that normal?
10:11:09midknight2k3yeah
10:11:12ShaWizok
10:11:13midknight2k3all hard drives do that
10:11:25ShaWizi had thought it was broke
10:11:28Bagdermy makes no noticable clicks
10:11:28midknight2k3some are less noticeable though
10:11:35ShaWizwhen i first heard that
10:11:36midknight2k3none at all bagder?
10:11:39Bagderno
10:11:43Bagdernot that I can hear
10:11:51midknight2k3none??!?!?
10:11:58midknight2k3jeezus i can hear mine across the room
10:12:04ShaWizlol
10:12:08midknight2k3clicklcicklcickclickety click, whirrrr....
10:12:13ShaWiznah mine ain't that bad
10:12:20midknight2k3i was exaggerating
10:12:23ShaWizi had notice it when i got real close
10:12:25midknight2k3but it's very audible
10:12:35midknight2k3not at all silent
10:12:46midknight2k3you probably have a replaced hard drive bagder lol
10:12:50midknight2k3the new 200gb model?
10:12:50midknight2k3:D
10:13:04Bagderarchos use all sorts of different hard drives
10:13:36ShaWizwhat is the deal with the disk spindown option in rock box?
10:13:43ShaWizi don't know what it does
10:13:50Bagdertried reading the manual?
10:14:01midknight2k3it sets the amount of time elapsed before rockbox spinds the hard drive down
10:14:04ShaWizyeah
10:14:20ShaWizbut what is the use?
10:14:20midknight2k3loger times means quicker navigations, but less abttery life
10:14:28ShaWizo
10:14:29midknight2k3well
10:14:35midknight2k3if its set to 5 seconds
10:14:42ShaWizo i ight
10:14:50midknight2k3rockbox waits for 5 seconds of no disk activity before spinning the drive down
10:15:03midknight2k3bagder
10:15:03ShaWizso i should set it low then
10:15:05midknight2k3i got the idea!
10:15:08midknight2k3well
10:15:11ShaWizit is on like 60s now
10:15:14midknight2k33-5 seconds is the usual
10:15:17midknight2k360s?
10:15:18midknight2k3wow
10:15:24midknight2k3that can't be default
10:15:36midknight2k3i'd say perhaps 5 seconds
10:15:44ShaWizlol
10:15:49Bagder5 is fine
10:15:50ShaWizi didn't know what it was
10:15:56ShaWizan put it up high
10:15:59midknight2k3bagder - did you ever consider topping off the buffer when the ahrd drive is accessed for other reasons?
10:16:22midknight2k3like to load a plugin or navigate the drive
10:17:06ShaWizis it possible to ever change the hard drive in my archos?
10:17:13midknight2k3yes
10:17:18midknight2k3but it will void the waranty
10:17:23midknight2k3and you have to be able to solder
10:17:24Bagdermidknight2k3: well, it could be done, but it would be fairly complicated too
10:17:24ShaWizoh
10:17:28midknight2k3otherwise it's not that hard
10:17:36Bagdersolder?
10:17:38midknight2k3just an idea bagder
10:17:39midknight2k3well
10:17:43ShaWizsolder what?
10:17:52midknight2k3there's 7 points or so around the outside when you pop off the cover
10:17:55BagderI don't think there's any soldering in a recorder 20
10:17:58midknight2k3either unsolder or cut them
10:18:01midknight2k3of
10:18:05midknight2k3it's fm recorder
10:18:13midknight2k3it's very simple work
10:18:21midknight2k3or "fairly simple"
10:18:23midknight2k3:)
10:18:23Bagderah
10:18:25ShaWizyeah?
10:18:26Bagderfm
10:18:32midknight2k3yeah
10:18:42ShaWizi may try one day
10:18:44midknight2k3maybe that can be my project when i learn c bagder
10:18:52midknight2k3top off buffer when drive is accessed
10:18:56Bagderyeps
10:19:11midknight2k3or "when i learn a bit more"
10:19:44ShaWizi noticed that my thing seems to only lock up when i am out walking with it in my pocket
10:20:13ShaWizwhen i am chillin it last till the battery dies
10:20:19midknight2k3seems even more like the red led dead
10:20:28ShaWizlike now i am listening to it
10:21:29ShaWizdo any of you got the rca 40gig jukebox?
10:21:39midknight2k3not a chance
10:21:41ShaWizi wanna know if thats any good
10:21:59midknight2k3i'd seriously recommend the fm recorder over anything there is out there today
10:22:12midknight2k3but for an option there's always epinions.com
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10:35:45ShaWiz01hello again
10:35:53midknight2k3erm
10:35:57midknight2k3hello mr. 1
10:36:07ShaWiz01i don't know what just happened
10:36:27midknight2k3huh
10:36:28ShaWiz01but i had to restart
10:36:36midknight2k3you're still here
10:36:36ShaWiz01my computer
10:36:37midknight2k3lol
10:36:41ShaWiz01lol
10:36:44ShaWiz01i see that
10:36:49midknight2k3ahahahahahahah
10:36:59ShaWiz01how odd?
10:37:16midknight2k3bagder am i scaring away the rockbox consumers?
10:37:17midknight2k3:)
10:37:39Bagdernah, we have track for that :-P
10:37:46midknight2k3lol
10:37:50midknight2k3trackie
10:38:37ShaWiz01there wasn't a daily build for yesterday was there?
10:38:48BagderI fixed it just now
10:38:59Bagderit seems to have failed somehow before
10:39:09midknight2k3?
10:39:14midknight2k3it didn't build?
10:39:17midknight2k3oh
10:39:24ShaWiz01huh?
10:39:53ShaWiz01oh you did
10:40:06ShaWiz01what new in this build?
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10:41:05Bagderthere are new builds every day
10:41:11ShaWiz01i know
10:41:12Bagderit doesn't mean there are always much new
10:41:28Bagdertoday, there's... *nothing* new ;-)
10:41:43ShaWiz01so whats different then?
10:41:53Bagdernothing
10:42:00ShaWiz01just the number?
10:42:07Bagderthe date, yes
10:42:14ShaWiz01ok
10:42:32Bagderand I fixed the rocks package build to exclude zero-byte ones
10:42:42midknight2k3bagder
10:43:03ShaWiz01what does that mean?
10:43:05midknight2k3what new things do you expect to come in the form of rocks
10:43:16midknight2k3the calendar is messed up
10:43:20midknight2k3no surprise there
10:43:20midknight2k3lol
10:43:44BagderI don't know, only the imagination of the creators set the limit
10:43:58BagderI think we'll get numerous games
10:44:00midknight2k3i just wonder what we could do
10:44:04midknight2k3i hope so
10:44:05midknight2k3:d
10:44:07midknight2k3oops
10:44:09midknight2k3lol
10:44:09midknight2k3:D
10:44:24Bagderthe chip8 patch as a plugin would give us a bunch new ones at once
10:44:47midknight2k3now THAT would be cool
10:44:57midknight2k3but some games are bad
10:45:06midknight2k3you guys could go through and see which ones are worth keeping
10:45:11midknight2k3like pong is unusable
10:45:30midknight2k3F1 and right, and there's no other player controls
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11:01:21tracktheripperMorning :)
11:01:26midknight2k3hey hey
11:01:31Bagderhowdy
11:01:37midknight2k3trackie
11:01:37tracktheripperhi mid and bag
11:01:41midknight2k3bag
11:01:42midknight2k3that's mean
11:01:52midknight2k3mean to say someone's a bag
11:01:55midknight2k3:D
11:02:02tracktheripper:-(
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11:02:30midknight2k3how dare you put a frown face!
11:02:37midknight2k3it's your offense!
11:02:44tracktherippermidknight i plugged in the charger last night but forgot to switch it on at the wall! :-(
11:02:51midknight2k3hahaha
11:03:09tracktheripperi need the JB today so im quickly charging it on the Archos firmware
11:03:36midknight2k3for what
11:03:44midknight2k3it's 203 at night
11:03:45midknight2k3lol
11:03:49midknight2k3are you using my firmware?
11:04:29tracktheripperno im using the archos firmware now
11:04:44midknight2k3well
11:04:46midknight2k3rockbox wise
11:04:59ShaWizhmm.. could one of you tell me whats a good Anti-Skip Buffer setting?
11:05:06tracktheripperWhy does the recorder have a "software charger?"
11:05:31midknight2k30, shawiz
11:05:41ShaWiz0
11:05:42BagderShaWiz: everything default is good
11:05:55Bagderjust change what you think should be changed
11:06:04midknight2k3the number in seconds is how much sooner the disk spins up to refill the buffer, incase you jog with it or something
11:06:05ShaWizk
11:06:20tracktherippermidkite if the recorder has a software charger at least it can have other things software wise
11:06:21tracktheripper:P
11:06:53midknight2k3yes
11:06:54midknight2k3lol
11:07:25tracktheripperlike an "ahem" software WMA decoder :-)
11:07:25ShaWizi love my jbox
11:07:36ShaWizan you guys at rockbox
11:07:42ShaWizthanks lots
11:08:02midknight2k3lolol
11:08:03ShaWizwhat the need for that decoder?
11:08:10midknight2k3it's a joke it think
11:08:17midknight2k3you cant be sure with tracktheripper
11:08:20midknight2k3:D
11:08:36ShaWizmp3's are great enough
11:09:03ShaWizi mean i have my whole cd collection in my pocket
11:09:04midknight2k3it's a joke
11:09:05midknight2k3lol
11:09:08midknight2k3yeah
11:09:09midknight2k3its great
11:09:11ShaWizwhy bitch about more
11:09:19midknight2k3it's a joooooke
11:09:26tracktheripperor even a software bigger RAM, like 300Mb
11:09:26tracktheripper:))
11:09:29ShaWizi don't use wma format at all
11:09:33midknight2k3see
11:09:36midknight2k3the above is a joke too
11:09:39midknight2k3impossible
11:09:41midknight2k3therefore a joke
11:09:43ShaWizlol
11:09:49midknight2k3:)
11:09:55ShaWizok
11:09:57tracktheripperno it isnt because u could use a bit of the hard-drive as extra ram
11:09:58ShaWiz:)
11:10:04midknight2k3at these "jokes" you have the options of "lol", ":)" or ":D"
11:10:50ShaWizwell i will just use all lol, :) an :D
11:11:14midknight2k3:D:D:D:D:DD
11:11:22ShaWizdamn it's late here
11:11:28ShaWizi gotta get some sleep
11:11:39tracktheripperu could make the LCD colour by getting 3 felt pens (red green blue) and colouring in the appropriate pixels on the LCD :))
11:11:58midknight2k3yeah
11:12:01midknight2k3what time shawiz
11:12:07midknight2k3ahahaha
11:12:08ShaWiz5:14
11:12:14midknight2k3ahahahahaha
11:12:16midknight2k3514
11:12:19ShaWizthats just funny
11:12:19midknight2k3its 212 here
11:12:31midknight2k3it's an aforementioned "joke", see?
11:12:39midknight2k3:)
11:13:18ShaWizsomeone is gonna mess there box up listening to him
11:13:26ShaWizlol
11:13:33tracktheripperFinally mid, when that is done, plug a USB TV tuner into the Archos and watch Eastenders on the LCD :)):)):))
11:13:43midknight2k3AHAAHAHAHA
11:13:45midknight2k3god
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11:13:49ShaWizlol
11:13:55tracktheripperand even record programs to the HD like a VCR :))
11:13:55midknight2k3that guy is the jokerster
11:14:13ShaWizi am out gotta hit the pillow
11:14:19ShaWizthanks again
11:14:23midknight2k3ok
11:14:25midknight2k3bye
11:14:25midknight2k3have fun
11:14:26midknight2k3and
11:14:27midknight2k3remember
11:14:30midknight2k3these are jokes
11:14:33ShaWizbye
11:14:33midknight2k3do not try at home
11:14:37midknight2k3trackie is mentally ill
11:14:38ShaWizlol
11:14:40midknight2k3bye
11:14:42midknight2k3nite
11:14:47ShaWiznite
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11:14:51midknight2k3sorry track
11:15:06midknight2k3you must help inexperienced users out
11:15:08tracktheripper:-)
11:15:12tracktheripperywa
11:15:29tracktheripperseeya
11:15:29tracktheripper:)
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11:17:22midknight2k3where's been linusn lately?
11:17:30>>>"seen" used by midknight2k3 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) [snoop prevented]
11:17:39midknight2k3havent seen him for a few weeks
11:17:46midknight2k3he used to be on a lot
11:18:52Bagderhe's on vacation
11:18:58midknight2k3yay!
11:19:00midknight2k3how long?
11:19:44midknight2k3sigh am i tired of all this helping and joking and sophisticated rockbox chat!
11:19:52midknight2k3i must get some rest now
11:19:59midknight2k3good bye whoever is here
11:20:02midknight2k3and good nite
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12:08:49Norlinhas zagor been around today?
12:12:57Bagderhe's on vacation
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12:16:11Norlinsomewhere down south?
12:16:28Norlinhe mentioned something about some sunny place, or was that a dream I had?
12:16:46NorlinI've decided to start learning emacs for the first time
12:17:30NorlinI wanted to talk to zagor about whether I should try xemacs or GNU emacs, but when I didn't find him I've starte building GNU emacs
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15:51:25elinenbeI like rockbox.
15:51:28elinenbeI like it alot.
15:51:33elinenbeI like it so much.
15:51:35elinenbeIt is nice.
15:51:40Bagder:-)
15:51:53elinenbeI like mp3s that can shuffle
15:52:04elinenbeI like a recorder that does not crash
15:52:10elinenbeI like long battery life
15:52:13elinenbeI like games.
15:52:18elinenbeI like dynamic playlists.
15:52:33elinenbeI like queuing up songs for my friends like I am a super DJ
15:52:55elinenbeI like knocking out fellow ipod owners with my jukebox
15:53:21elinenbeI like large playlists.
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16:30:32nevshow r u
16:32:03BagderI'm just fine thanks, you?
16:32:46nevsfine
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18:06:13elinenbehardeep: anything more new with the patch? :) as you can see I love it!
18:08:27diddystar5hardeep: i think it's ready for CVS!
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18:28:49MTpersonally, i think its brilliant
18:29:04MTbut i'd ditch the playlist numbers
18:29:13MTand squish everything up a bit more
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18:43:52hardeepMT: yeah, i've been thinking of making what gets displayed configurable... but probably as a post-release change
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20:05:43scott666hey midknight
20:05:49midknight2k3hey scott
20:05:55midknight2k3earhurts hasn't been around
20:06:07midknight2k3perhaps he has lost his power from the archos ;)
20:06:14scott666no, he said on the list hes been havin comp problems
20:06:14midknight2k3remember i get the spleen
20:06:28midknight2k3link me
20:06:45scott666http://rockbox.haxx.se
20:06:50midknight2k3Grr
20:06:52midknight2k3dumbo
20:07:09scott666look in the archives
20:07:28scott666its in one of his threads about 50% longer battery life
20:07:31midknight2k3did you see.. "se'ed sead's tribute to rockbox" photo?
20:07:41scott666yeah
20:07:45midknight2k3what is it?
20:07:49midknight2k3i don't understand
20:07:52scott666i saw it when he posted it to the list
20:07:58scott666thats not a photo
20:07:59midknight2k3oh oho
20:08:06midknight2k33d?
20:08:06scott666its a 3d rendering
20:08:12midknight2k3like computer generated?
20:08:14scott666yeah
20:08:15midknight2k3cool
20:08:19midknight2k3how can i do that stuff
20:08:21midknight2k3lol
20:08:25scott666you cant
20:08:27scott666lol
20:08:35midknight2k3looked a bit "fake" but in a good way :D
20:08:38midknight2k3why not?
20:08:41midknight2k3i can too!
20:09:13scott666he said he scanned every side of it and then used some program
20:09:15midknight2k3Cinema4D eh?
20:09:20scott666ok
20:09:20scott666lol
20:09:23midknight2k3i can do that
20:09:27midknight2k3whatever.. it is
20:10:14scott666lol
20:13:02midknight2k3i cant find it
20:13:06midknight2k3whats earhurts email
20:16:53midknight2k3is WAV uncompressed?
20:16:59scott666yeah
20:17:10midknight2k3sheezus i want that ihp
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20:17:19scott666earhurts is something@diffenbach.org
20:17:24scott666i think
20:17:34scott666look in the list archive
20:17:55midknight2k3thats what im doing!
20:18:02JorBondi think signing up to the dev mailing list was a mistake lol, already have 30 e-mails from it
20:18:09midknight2k3TP Diffenbach is the only diffenbach there
20:18:11midknight2k3lol jorbond
20:18:14midknight2k3yes
20:18:18midknight2k3i unsubscribed
20:18:26midknight2k3much easier to read from archives
20:18:29midknight2k3all sorted and stuff
20:18:35scott666i like to have something to read
20:18:58midknight2k3gogogoga
20:19:29scott666reading 30 emails doesnt take nearly aslong as it sounds like it would
20:20:07JorBondi need like 1 daily e-mail of all e-mails sent, and a nice summary added
20:20:17midknight2k3lol
20:20:20midknight2k3a "digest"
20:20:25scott666we have that
20:20:34midknight2k3surre
20:20:56scott666its called "the rockbox digest", theres a link on the main page
20:21:08midknight2k3thats different
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20:22:43JorBondwas trying to think if pong on the player would be playable
20:22:54scott666breakout would
20:23:02JorBondb/c it would be so easy only having to move it up 1 or down 1
20:23:23BoveI have a question regarding my Archos recorder... The display is blank...
20:23:32JorBondis it on?
20:23:41Boveyes
20:23:56BoveI tried the key sequence outlined in the faq
20:24:02midknight2k3jorbond:
20:24:04midknight2k3not yet
20:24:05JorBondare the batts charged full
20:24:09scott666did you press up at the end?
20:24:15midknight2k3key sequence?
20:24:17midknight2k3neat
20:24:17scott666down=lower contrast
20:24:19Bovei pressed down and up
20:24:27scott666up=higher
20:24:44scott666it really sucks typing with no spacebar
20:24:53Boveim not sure if the batt is charged... its plugged in
20:24:58midknight2k3you have no spacebar?
20:25:02Boveill try up
20:25:04scott666i have one
20:25:31scott666but01,9901,0104 04,9901it01,9901,0104 04,9901doesnt01,9901,0104 04,9901work
20:25:31JorBondi have a player, don't know if the recorder has the same problem, but if the bat. are really low and i connect the a/c adapter the screen will stay blank
20:26:02JorBondthen after an hour i can disconnect the a/c and plug it back in then it says charging
20:26:05midknight2k3AHA
20:26:08Bovehmmm I see... The light comes on... but no screen display
20:26:12midknight2k3are you using rockbox, bove?
20:26:18Boveyes
20:26:21midknight2k3rats
20:26:24midknight2k3lol
20:26:29JorBondis the a/c connected
20:26:45Boveshould i?
20:27:19JorBondi would try it
20:27:29Boveok
20:27:30JorBondpower it off, connect it, then power it on
20:27:41midknight2k3jorbond
20:27:46midknight2k3it powers on automatically
20:28:08Boveyeah, it powered on
20:28:29Boveso, the light came on and went off..
20:28:52Bovethe display light is off... and the green led is on
20:29:04JorBondhave u been using it a lot
20:29:17midknight2k3just let it charge for a bit then reboot into rockbox
20:29:18Bovei just got it today.
20:29:22midknight2k3ok
20:29:26midknight2k3it needs to be charged first
20:29:37Boveits not new...
20:29:59Bovebut ok... ill charge it
20:30:00midknight2k3?
20:30:07Bovehow long for full charge?
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20:30:07midknight2k3yes just charge it
20:30:15midknight2k3i'd say 4 hours maybwe
20:30:21BoveThanks a lot.
20:30:25midknight2k3probably 2
20:30:35midknight2k3just check the battery meter in rockbox in an hour
20:30:52Bove: ) if I can see it
20:31:05midknight2k3yeah ;D
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20:34:11midknight2k3aha
20:34:19midknight2k3i am now downloading cinema 4d
20:34:23midknight2k3and i will make something
20:34:29midknight2k3even if it looks complicated
20:34:50midknight2k3perhaps an ear
20:34:54midknight2k3in tribute to earHurts
20:35:27JorBondis it possible to change the tiles in the charset of the player
20:35:34midknight2k3nope
20:36:09JorBondthen how did they create Rocklatin1
20:36:17JorBondif it is different then the origional charset
20:36:33midknight2k3they didn't creat it
20:36:36midknight2k3how it works is
20:36:51midknight2k3the player has 4 or 8 char cells that can be anything you want
20:37:06midknight2k3they made them, volume, battery.. etc
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20:37:13midknight2k3only 4 can be displayed at a time
20:37:20midknight2k3or 8 depending on version
20:37:37midknight2k3that's my belief, you'd have to ask bagder or linus or zagor
20:37:42JorBondok
20:37:46midknight2k3that's what someone said
20:41:48JorBondso i can create 4-8 new char on the screen at a time?
20:41:58midknight2k3well
20:42:02JorBondthen remove them and write 4 more
20:42:02midknight2k3if you're a programmer
20:42:08midknight2k3that doesn't apply to recorders
20:42:18midknight2k3http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/rocklatin.html
20:42:24midknight2k3The old LCD can have 4 software defined characters, and the new LCD can have 8 software defined characters.
20:42:30midknight2k3tada
20:42:35JorBondso in turn the player can be used as a bitmap display kinda
20:42:40midknight2k3no..
20:42:42midknight2k3it's very ugly
20:42:49JorBondi know i was looking that the page, didnt help
20:42:58midknight2k3you have a recorder?
20:43:11JorBondno, a player
20:43:25midknight2k3oh im goin the worng way here sorry
20:43:26midknight2k3lol
20:43:33midknight2k3um
20:43:42midknight2k3i guess
20:44:02midknight2k3but the recorder is of course much better as a picture displayer even though it would still look bad
20:46:32JorBondwhen are the devs usually on
20:46:43midknight2k3no specific time
20:46:55MThmm
20:46:55midknight2k3bagder, usually at night
20:47:04midknight2k3depending on where you live
20:47:06midknight2k3lol
20:47:06MTmy flash isnt working _at all_
20:47:10MT:/
20:47:11midknight2k3whats wrong
20:47:23midknight2k3it wont flash or after it flashed it wont work?
20:47:42MTgives a CPUAddr error, then goes into a loop of ROLO complaining about file length
20:48:05midknight2k3right after flashing?
20:48:17MTwell, no
20:48:21MTit never gets flashed
20:48:38midknight2k3you try to flash but it wont
20:48:38midknight2k3?
20:48:50MTsright
20:49:04midknight2k3for the first time?
20:49:17MTnah
20:49:25midknight2k3to replace rockbox?
20:49:39MTi flashed a couple of days ago
20:49:41midknight2k3to update it?
20:49:48MTwith the 'distribution' version
20:49:57MTmine has a 'few' patches applied
20:50:02midknight2k3lol
20:50:04midknight2k3thats fine
20:50:11midknight2k3look at the version number
20:50:11MTive already replaced it 2-3 times
20:50:44MTits the version i flashed a while back
20:50:45MTor
20:50:47MThmm
20:51:03midknight2k3you need a ucl file
20:51:07midknight2k3not an ajz file
20:51:10midknight2k3if you didnt know
20:51:12MTyou think?
20:51:17midknight2k3sorry
20:51:17midknight2k3lol
20:51:36MTbah
20:51:36midknight2k3it's the rockbox_flash.rock plugin
20:51:41midknight2k3make sure it's for that day
20:51:47MTit has the same fking build time/version
20:51:49midknight2k3the same day as you have (version)
20:51:59midknight2k3sigh
20:52:07midknight2k3how would you know
20:52:10midknight2k3you cant rolo a ucl
20:52:19MTno
20:52:24MTcalm down
20:52:33midknight2k3thats what im trying to do
20:52:35MTi have done several builds
20:52:38midknight2k3you're confusing me
20:52:46MTincluding one that is currently stored in there
20:52:53MTand they all have the same version tag
20:53:00MTwhich may be the cause for confusion
20:53:12midknight2k3if it aint, hope for help elsewhere
20:55:54midknight2k3AHA
20:55:57midknight2k3i figured a new game
20:56:03midknight2k3like wormlet, but different
20:56:32midknight2k3you're the wormlet, you have to go from beginning to end, and there's walls in the way and stuff you have to go around and you have to get all the food
20:56:42midknight2k3then go to the exit door
20:57:11MTsounds fun
20:57:13JorBondi have the game on my old windows computer
20:57:19MTwhen can you write it?
20:57:20midknight2k3which
20:57:22JorBondi think it was called rat race
20:57:23midknight2k3me?
20:57:31midknight2k3maybe later when i learn more
20:57:33JorBondno it was rattlers revenge
20:57:53midknight2k3WOW
20:57:56midknight2k3:D
20:58:12midknight2k3wish the wormlet patch got accepted
20:58:49JorBondrattlers race, lol bad memory
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21:11:42midknight2k3well
21:18:45JorBondhehe found a nice bug in the plugin system on the player
21:19:05midknight2k3what
21:19:20midknight2k3whats the bug
21:19:37JorBondif u try and load the viewer plugin, it will give an error like it should
21:19:50JorBondbut if u push left or right it will start loading other plugins in the dir
21:20:04midknight2k3hmm
21:20:05midknight2k3odd
21:20:11JorBondthen it will kinda crash
21:20:19JorBondand start spinning through the dirs really fast
21:20:43midknight2k3submit it as a bug report
21:21:07JorBondi will, just want to try and make sure i can reproduce it everytime to help the devs
21:21:57midknight2k3er
21:21:59midknight2k3uh?
21:22:38JorBondknow the exact keys to push so others can reproduce it
21:22:56midknight2k3i know
21:23:02midknight2k3i was just saying er uh
21:23:07midknight2k3googoogaigai
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21:44:26scott666anyone here?01,9901,0104150010000404,9901
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21:44:40midknight2k3me meme
21:45:07scott666its always quiet in this channel
21:45:21midknight2k3ger, yes i serpose
21:45:28midknight2k3unless bagder or zagger or linusn is around
21:45:57scott666i havnt seen linus in irc yet
21:46:04midknight2k3no?
21:46:10midknight2k3he's been gone for a week or so
21:46:12midknight2k3on vacation
21:46:20midknight2k3he used to be here very often
21:46:38scott666 badger was on the other week ago, and zagors been on vacation a lot
21:47:09scott666other week ago?
21:47:16midknight2k3bagder was on last night
21:47:25midknight2k3zagor, well he hasnt been on for a few days
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21:47:31*scott666 sighs *
21:47:36midknight2k3try this: /msg logbot seen "name"
21:47:37scott666there goes my sanity
21:47:43midknight2k3like /msg logbot seen Zagor
21:47:48midknight2k3he'll tell you
21:47:51>>>"seen" used by scott666 (~scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) [snoop prevented]
21:48:07scott666-logbot- Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) signed off 4 days and 21 hours ago ("Client exiting")
21:48:15midknight2k34 days
21:48:16midknight2k3mm
21:48:23midknight2k3linus however, has been gone 89
21:48:25midknight2k38
21:48:26midknight2k3lol
21:48:28midknight2k38 days
21:48:32>>>"seen" used by scott666 (~scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) [snoop prevented]
21:48:34midknight2k3try to see yourself
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21:48:47scott666-logbot- I have never seen 'linus'
21:48:51midknight2k3LinusN
21:48:54midknight2k3is irc name
21:48:57scott666ahh
21:48:59scott666heh
21:49:06midknight2k3try to see me
21:49:09midknight2k3try to see logbot
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21:49:45scott666-logbot- You need glasses badly
21:49:53scott666lol
21:49:59midknight2k3-logbot- Yes, I am here.
21:50:25>>>"seen" used by scott666 (~scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) [snoop prevented]
21:50:31scott666-logbot- Yeah, I see you. Boy, you're ugly ;)
21:50:55midknight2k3playing with logbot is funny
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21:51:21>>>"alias trackteripper" by midknight2k3 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com)
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21:51:55midknight2k3logbot is busted
21:52:03scott666?
21:52:09>>>"wholeft" by midknight2k3 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com)
21:52:18midknight2k3i dunno
21:52:23midknight2k3try /msg logbot commands
21:52:28midknight2k3gives you a list
21:52:47>>>"commands" by scott666 (~scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com)
21:53:16scott666ive stopped caring
21:53:18scott666lol
21:53:36midknight2k3bum
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21:56:27scott666hmmm
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21:56:47scott666damn
21:57:01midknight2k3what
21:57:06scott666 /nick logbot
21:57:20midknight2k3?
21:57:29midknight2k3lol
21:57:29scott666try it
21:57:32midknight2k3so
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21:58:05midknight2k4lol
21:58:29scott999hey
21:58:33scott999that confused me
21:58:38scott999i didnt recall saying lol
21:58:39midknight2k4lol
21:58:43scott999STOP
21:58:46scott999it confuse me gain
21:58:49midknight2k4what?
21:58:55scott999again
21:59:00scott999it looks like what i typed
21:59:03scott999so stop
21:59:10midknight2k4im midknight2k_4_
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22:00:15scott666WHAT?
22:00:20scott666fucing caps
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22:00:27scott666yes, fucing
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22:05:25scott666no
22:05:30midknight2k3thedfe
22:05:31midknight2k3there
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22:07:28Triple-zlol @ topic
22:07:38midknight2k3yes
22:07:40midknight2k3bagder set it
22:07:44midknight2k3i got the opportunity
22:07:50midknight2k3but i couldn't come up with one
22:08:23Triple-zi didnt flash my jb yet, is it working good?
22:08:36midknight2k3recorder?
22:09:18Triple-zyah
22:09:21scott666yeah
22:09:23midknight2k3yeah its great
22:09:31midknight2k3scott must now take over
22:09:37midknight2k3GRR
22:09:38midknight2k3i hate that
22:09:42midknight2k3aggf
22:09:45MTits 'okay'
22:09:51midknight2k3what
22:09:58midknight2k3come on
22:09:58scott666except01,9901,010400 charging doesnt work right with normal recorders i hear00,9901
22:10:06MTits definately less stable than the equivalent rockbox
22:10:14midknight2k3why not
22:10:21scott666stable??
22:10:27MTcharging is seriously screwed, but its not that much of a problem
22:10:28scott666rockbox doesnt crash!
22:10:33MTyes, it does
22:10:34midknight2k3i know
22:10:37midknight2k3its fine in flash
22:10:40midknight2k3same as always
22:10:58MTthats why its a development version, and not a release
22:10:59Triple-zim not really sure how to flash it
22:11:05MTthe releases never crash
22:11:06midknight2k3i can help if you lile
22:11:11scott666rockbox.haxx.se/docs/flash.html
22:11:18midknight2k3that's not nice
22:11:24Triple-zyeah i look at that menual
22:11:29midknight2k3guide him thru it
22:11:33midknight2k3not let him figure it
22:11:49scott666well its not THAT complicated
22:11:59midknight2k3for some it might be
22:12:22scott666its step by step
22:12:28scott666!
22:12:29Triple-zflash_rec.zip after i unzip it to the root
22:12:32midknight2k3complicated
22:12:38midknight2k3sigh
22:12:41midknight2k3see hes confused
22:12:45midknight2k3i'll help
22:12:48Triple-zand i did check my flash it not showin ????
22:12:48scott666lol
22:12:56midknight2k3what where?
22:13:00midknight2k3how?
22:13:22scott666hes saying the info doesnt say flash m=??
22:13:37Triple-zin the debug
22:13:42scott666yeah
22:13:53midknight2k3he says its ok
22:13:56midknight2k3it's NOT saying ????
22:14:03Triple-zmy unit is ok for flashing i guess
22:14:07midknight2k3yes
22:14:08scott666thats what he said
22:14:09midknight2k3make sure you know
22:14:11midknight2k3how
22:14:16midknight2k3do you need help?
22:14:20scott666dude
22:14:28midknight2k3i like helping
22:14:30scott666he just said he checked that it was ok
22:14:36midknight2k3the flash
22:14:41midknight2k3does he need help FLASHING not CHECKING
22:14:59Triple-znow why do i need to dump the ROM for?
22:15:10midknight2k3just in case
22:15:28scott666to have back-up copy of your current firmware
22:16:41Triple-zhmm ok
22:16:43Triple-zdid it
22:17:05midknight2k3ok
22:17:15midknight2k3now copy the two internal roms to your computer
22:17:19midknight2k3the 2 new bin files
22:17:28Triple-zi have to overwrite the ajbrec.ajz from the flesh zip?
22:17:39midknight2k3nono
22:17:43midknight2k3oh
22:17:44midknight2k3yes
22:17:47midknight2k3do so
22:17:53midknight2k3and back up the internal roms
22:18:22Triple-zok sec
22:19:07midknight2k3i have a better idea
22:19:10midknight2k3when you'er backed up
22:19:19Triple-zdid it
22:19:25midknight2k3ok
22:19:51midknight2k3get the ucl file from the recorder_flash.zip and put in root
22:19:59midknight2k3put firmware_flash.rock in root to
22:20:10midknight2k3ajbrec.ajz as well
22:20:29scott666does firmware flash take a .ucl?
22:20:32Triple-zhmm from the last ucl in daily builds?
22:20:38midknight2k3nonnoo
22:20:42midknight2k3the included ones for now
22:20:49midknight2k3we will update later
22:20:52scott666you want that too
22:21:13scott666theres tons of problems in the original flash
22:21:15midknight2k3once the three files (ajbrec, firmware_flash.rock and rockbox.ucl) are in root
22:21:19midknight2k3SCOTT
22:21:26midknight2k3he will update it later
22:21:31midknight2k3it has to do firmware flash first
22:21:39midknight2k3and you can't do it with a new version
22:21:41midknight2k3let's play it safe
22:21:41scott666does that take a ucl?
22:21:46midknight2k3i think so
22:21:50midknight2k3but im not sure
22:21:53midknight2k3let's just wait a bit ok
22:22:00scott666then have him read the doc
22:22:06scott666it has more disclaimers
22:22:07scott666lol
22:22:14Triple-zi dont have any ucl in flash_rec.zip
22:22:20midknight2k3ok
22:22:25midknight2k3run the firmware flash.rock
22:22:27midknight2k3WAIT
22:22:28midknight2k3wait
22:22:29midknight2k3hang on
22:22:35midknight2k3put new ajbrec in root
22:22:37midknight2k3right?
22:22:52midknight2k3done?
22:23:06Triple-zi got http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/flash_rec.zip this one
22:23:16midknight2k3yes
22:23:16scott666copy 3 files of this package to the root directory of your box:
22:23:16scott666ajbrec.ajz (the version of Rockbox we're going to use and have in the firmware file)
22:23:16scott666
22:23:16scott666firmware_flash.rock (the plugin for this job)
22:23:16scott666
22:23:17***Alert Mode level 1
22:23:17scott666firmware_rec.bin or firmware_fm.bin (the complete firmware for your model, with my bootloader and the two images)
22:23:26midknight2k3there we go
22:23:29midknight2k3scott has it
22:23:45Triple-zok i got that files in root
22:23:53midknight2k3reboot archos
22:23:53scott666its
22:23:53scott666 all in hte doc file
22:23:58midknight2k3dur
22:24:18midknight2k3reboot your archos triple-z
22:24:52scott666then check the debug screen and write down your mask value
22:24:58midknight2k3why?
22:25:11Triple-zrebooted
22:25:13midknight2k3why?
22:25:21midknight2k3do what scott says but i have no idea why
22:25:36scott666http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/flash.html
22:25:50scott666just go step by step
22:25:56scott666if you have questionsask
22:26:01Triple-zmask value?
22:26:06scott666*questions, ask
22:26:13scott666in HW info
22:26:21midknight2k3right
22:27:22Triple-z0x0302
22:27:36scott666ok
22:28:33Triple-zits write incomptible version when i run firmware_flash.rock
22:29:12midknight2k3calm down scoot im helping him
22:29:25scott666lol
22:29:36midknight2k3that was a close one
22:29:59Triple-zdont flame me dude ]
22:30:09midknight2k3what what
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22:35:21midknight2k3hey
22:35:23scott666ok midknight, you dont get to answer any more questions on flashing
22:35:25scott666lol
22:35:33midknight2k3not in main chat
22:35:34midknight2k3ah
22:35:38Triple-zhey the dude that made the flash boot
22:35:54[IDC]Dragonsomebody's got an issue with it?
22:35:58midknight2k3nope
22:36:01midknight2k3hes about to flash
22:36:05midknight2k3just an F2 away ;)
22:36:22[IDC]Dragonor an F3?
22:36:40scott666f2 was get past the disclaimer
22:36:45midknight2k3oh
22:36:45scott666lol
22:36:47midknight2k3f3 then
22:38:03[IDC]DragonHes, you're OK?
22:38:28Triple-zafter i flash i can go back to normal way?
22:38:46scott666you could, but why the hell would you want to?
22:38:51midknight2k3lol
22:38:57Triple-zdunno
22:39:02Triple-zjust askin
22:39:05midknight2k3yea
22:39:12midknight2k3just update rockbox with archos firmware ucl
22:39:12[IDC]DragonNot Hes, Triple-z is the victim?
22:39:16midknight2k3yeah
22:39:16midknight2k3lol
22:40:05Triple-zthe disclaimer is too scary hehe
22:40:12midknight2k3aw
22:40:17midknight2k3let me see this scary disclaimer
22:40:35midknight2k3where
22:40:45[IDC]DragonTriple-z, you have the files for your model (FM or recorder)?
22:40:54midknight2k3recorder
22:40:57[IDC]DragonThat's the only real worry.
22:40:59midknight2k3he did all the steps
22:41:13Triple-zyeah i got to F3
22:41:13midknight2k3as long as it's for the recorder and the flash_rec.zip...
22:41:49[IDC]DragonYou've read the instructions, I guess.
22:42:12Triple-zyeah i did
22:42:15midknight2k3and i've made sure everythign should be ok so far
22:42:34[IDC]Dragonmidknight2k3, thanks for nanny-ing.
22:42:41midknight2k3:D
22:42:50Triple-zim just thinkin maybe ill wait a bit till it be more stable etc
22:42:53scott666(he sucks at it)
22:42:54scott666:P
22:43:03midknight2k3shutup scott
22:43:04scott666its stable
22:43:04midknight2k3lol
22:43:09midknight2k3stable as ever
22:43:10scott666just do it
22:43:13[IDC]Dragonmore stable than what?
22:43:14scott666do it do it do it
22:43:23midknight2k3lol
22:43:25midknight2k3you did that to me
22:43:28midknight2k3when i flashed mine
22:43:30midknight2k3earhurts and bod
22:43:34midknight2k3"do it do it!!!"
22:43:42midknight2k3and i had that 04 mask
22:43:45midknight2k3504 that is
22:44:21[IDC]DragonKids, are we on the three meter board here?
22:44:32Triple-zhow do i update the daily builts after i flash it? where i put the ucl files?
22:44:33scott666i was the first FM :-)
22:44:40midknight2k3put ucl in root
22:44:44midknight2k3and run rockbox_flash.rock
22:44:50midknight2k3if it fails ther's no problem
22:44:58midknight2k3so this is the only dagerous time
22:45:05scott666you have to renamed it to rockbox.ucl the first time
22:45:08midknight2k3once you do this there's no more worries
22:45:15[IDC]Dragonlately, you can just play the ucl.
22:45:19midknight2k3yeah
22:45:20scott666yeah
22:45:20midknight2k3very cool
22:45:23midknight2k3getting simpler
22:45:27midknight2k3and auto-ucl builds
22:45:35scott666thats as simple as it gets
22:45:41Triple-zcool
22:45:42scott666easy as rolo
22:46:34[IDC]DragonI could maybe skip F1 keypress in that case?
22:46:46midknight2k3no
22:46:47midknight2k3lol
22:46:55Triple-zwhats the charging probs u got there?
22:46:57midknight2k3like to have a warning just in case its an accident or anything
22:47:02midknight2k3none that i know of
22:47:06scott666can the flash package be updated to include a more recent version?
22:47:10[IDC]DragonWhen "playing" an ucl, one button less to press.
22:47:20midknight2k3well idc dragon
22:47:27scott666fine for me
22:47:29midknight2k3i'd like to have to press a button after playing a ucl
22:47:33[IDC]DragonYes, I'm about to update it.
22:47:34midknight2k3at least one button extra
22:47:40midknight2k3just in case
22:47:43scott666its not exactly hard to fix
22:47:52[IDC]Dragonmidknight2k3, currently it's 2 buttons.
22:48:01midknight2k3so you make it down to one
22:48:06scott666play, f1, f2
22:48:12midknight2k3okok
22:48:14midknight2k3what i dont like
22:48:25midknight2k3is how they always have to be the plugins from the same build
22:48:44scott666only if the api version changes
22:49:02Triple-zin other topic, anyone here heard or KiSS DVD Players?
22:49:16midknight2k3you're not flashing?
22:49:18scott666the band?
22:49:18midknight2k3kiss dvd?
22:49:21midknight2k3no
22:49:21[IDC]DragonTriple-z, still not flashed?
22:49:36Triple-zthey play xvid/divx
22:49:45Triple-znope not yet
22:50:06midknight2k3ahh get on with it lol
22:50:10midknight2k3it's never going to be safer
22:50:22jb|gamingi have heard of theme
22:50:25jb|gamingthem*
22:50:38scott666why did i never notice that xvid is divx backwards?
22:50:41scott666im an idiot...
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22:50:52midknight2k3aha
22:50:53midknight2k3lol
22:50:59scott666lol
22:51:02Triple-zheh
22:51:06jorbondi wouldnt waste the money on one of those dvd players if it was me
22:51:11midknight2k3boo
22:51:17Triple-zwell i never replace the ajbrec.ajz after flashing?
22:51:24scott666no, do
22:51:25midknight2k3you get rid of it
22:51:37midknight2k3rockbox will be in flash and it wont need to be loaded
22:51:42scott666no! you keep it so you can f1 boot
22:51:53midknight2k3well
22:51:55midknight2k3why?
22:52:01midknight2k3just f1 boot and download a new ajbrec
22:52:03midknight2k3much simpler
22:52:20midknight2k3in that super unlikely case
22:52:27scott666i just run that one guy's program
22:52:37midknight2k3why guys
22:52:44scott666gets the rocks and ucl and ajbrec
22:52:52Triple-zf1 boot is?
22:53:02midknight2k3really
22:53:07midknight2k3sigh
22:53:12scott666f1+on=archos firmware
22:53:13midknight2k3if you flash we can figure it out from there
22:53:17midknight2k3no need to plan so far ahead
22:55:47Triple-zhttp://www.kiss-technology.com/filer/DP-500_eng.pdf <=- looks so good
22:57:19midknight2k3junk
22:57:26midknight2k3did you flash/are you going to?
22:58:15Triple-zwell, u say no recorder got fucked?
22:58:23midknight2k3none yet
22:58:29midknight2k3one wouldnt run the flash
22:58:44midknight2k3or it wouldnt work when trying to flash or something
22:58:49midknight2k3but otherwise it's fine i think
22:58:54midknight2k3idc dragon would know
22:59:34[IDC]DragonOne FM was reported dead, the only fatality by now.
22:59:45midknight2k3yeah
23:00
23:00:16[IDC]DragonBut I never heared again from that guy, maybe he was payed by Archos to scare us...
23:00:25midknight2k3haahahhaha
23:00:28midknight2k3wht an idea
23:00:30midknight2k3lol
23:00:34Triple-zu know how many rockbox users already flashed?
23:00:39midknight2k3many
23:00:48midknight2k3but there's no statistics
23:01:02[IDC]Dragona few dozen, I'd guess, but have no info.
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23:01:34[IDC]Dragonmost of the "active" people here, I think.
23:01:50midknight2k3like me! :)
23:01:59jorbondcan the player be flashed?
23:02:05midknight2k3nad i think you for it, it's so much of a relief
23:02:11midknight2k3no...t yet
23:02:15midknight2k3one of those
23:02:24midknight2k3it's not 15 seconds anymore, it's 5
23:02:42[IDC]Dragonjorbond, you have a player?
23:03:02midknight2k3yes he does
23:03:16midknight2k3he was also wonderinga bout the rocklatin charset
23:03:29jorbondyep
23:03:55[IDC]Dragonjorbond, if you're a developer, feel free to port the flash plugins.
23:04:10[IDC]DragonThat's all which is missing.
23:04:15jorbondall the store had was the player, if i would of known the recorder existed i would of bought it lol
23:05:17midknight2k3triple z still thinkin about it?
23:06:09Triple-zstill yah
23:06:09jorbondare memory addresses different from recorder to plater
23:09:35midknight2k3so far it's been 100% fine exept for that fm recorder guy we never heard from
23:09:47midknight2k3if his really died and he really cared he would have responded
23:09:55midknight2k3but i wish i could have had that dead machine\
23:09:58midknight2k3:D
23:11:32Triple-zdid it!
23:11:38midknight2k3did it
23:11:40midknight2k3yay!
23:11:43midknight2k3did it work?
23:11:50Triple-znow i need to turn it off?
23:11:57midknight2k3if it said it was ok
23:11:57Triple-zit say ok
23:12:01midknight2k3when t verified
23:12:06midknight2k3it should be good then
23:12:20midknight2k3and you might have to hold on to get it to boot
23:12:25midknight2k3scared ema t first
23:12:49Triple-zSWEET LORD! Workin
23:12:54midknight2k3quick boot?
23:13:05midknight2k3aha! you did it! yay! woohoo!
23:13:29Triple-zyeah, grat
23:13:32Triple-zgreat
23:13:37midknight2k3tada
23:13:45midknight2k3and hold f1 while you press on
23:13:50midknight2k3it should go the archos way
23:13:57midknight2k3delete AJBREC.ajz
23:14:09Triple-zill do auto resume and check how fast is it
23:14:17midknight2k3Wait
23:14:18midknight2k3wait
23:14:23midknight2k3delete ajbrec.ajz
23:14:27midknight2k3it makes it quicker
23:14:47[IDC]DragonCongrats, you should update to the daily build now.
23:14:51midknight2k3yeah
23:14:54midknight2k3i was going to say
23:14:58Triple-zhmm sec
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23:15:00midknight2k3but you have to tell him how i have to go
23:15:02midknight2k3bagder
23:15:13Triple-zi need to f1 boot for deletein the ajz?
23:15:14Bagderevening
23:15:16midknight2k3no
23:15:23midknight2k3f1 boot will go to archosf firmware
23:15:25[IDC]DragonHi Bagder!
23:15:26midknight2k3morning
23:15:29midknight2k3:D
23:15:40midknight2k3bye all
23:15:47midknight2k3good luck triple z
23:15:57midknight2k3flash new firmware and get rid of ajbrec.ajz
23:16:01midknight2k3:D
23:16:03Triple-zso should i delete it from the frimware or from the pc?
23:16:08midknight2k3either way
23:16:25midknight2k3then dragon can tell you how to update to daily build or whatever
23:16:27midknight2k3bye
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23:16:43[IDC]DragonBagder, I'd like to commit a makefile which does the uclpack, but we need it in the tools then.
23:16:47jorbondi thought of another feature i want in the plugin system, ability to play mp3 files, if it isnt already there
23:17:14jorbondb/c then you can have sound effects in games :)
23:17:15Triple-zto update i just need the newest ucl?
23:17:27Bagderjorbond: it would be easy to allow them to do that, if it isn't already there
23:17:48[IDC]DragonTriple-z, yes, you can do that.
23:17:49Bagder[IDC]Dragon: well, what would the fix do?
23:18:10[IDC]DragonBagder, no fiy, just an extra line in the makefile.
23:18:20[IDC]Dragonfiy -> fix
23:18:35Bagderbut we can't assume all developers will have uclpack
23:18:53Bagderor at least I don't think we should
23:18:54[IDC]Dragonwill the make fail then?
23:19:15Bagderwell it depends on how/where your extra line is
23:19:37[IDC]DragonI'm not shure where the tools content comes from, we could add uclpack.
23:20:29Bagderthe tools are written by us
23:20:31Bagderall but one I think
23:21:06jorbondgoing over to linux to compile some code
23:21:18jorbondtrying to see if i can port the code to player
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23:22:06Bagder[IDC]Dragon: I suggest you make a 'ucl' target in the makefile that builds the ucl file
23:22:50[IDC]DragonBagder, I mean from where they were downloaded, so we could add uclpack.
23:23:14Bagderits quite a lot of code
23:24:18Triple-zit need to be rockbox.ucl to work?
23:24:30Bagderits needed to make rockbox.ucl, yes
23:24:46Bagderbut we need gcc too, and we don't include that
23:25:09[IDC]Dragonbinaries are not acceptable?
23:25:23Bagderbinaries are doomed to not work
23:25:30Bagderand we want to function on multiple platforms
23:25:42[IDC]DragonOK.
23:25:49BagderI'd rather allow binaries for download from the web site
23:25:59Triple-zafter i flash the ucl i dont need it anymore right?
23:26:06[IDC]DragonI've added the uclpack like this:
23:26:08[IDC]Dragon$(OBJDIR)/$(OUTNAME) : $(OBJDIR)/rockbox.bin
23:26:08[IDC]Dragon$(TOOLSDIR)/uclpack −−best −−2e $(OBJDIR)/rockbox.bin $(OBJDIR)/rockbox.ucl
23:26:08[IDC]Dragon$(TOOLSDIR)/scramble $(SCRAMBLE_OPT) $(OBJDIR)/rockbox.bin $(OBJDIR)/$(OUTNAME)
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23:26:57Bagder[IDC]Dragon: and that won't work for me, I don't have uclpack in my tools dir...
23:27:08[IDC]Dragonwill check if that fails if I move away uclpack...
23:29:10Triple-zonce your flashed your never go back =] heh
23:30:48[IDC]DragonBagder, yes it fails.
23:31:35[IDC]DragonEven if I put it after the .ajz scrambling, it won't continue with the rocks.
23:31:44Bagderno failures make it stop
23:31:48Bagderbesides
23:31:57Bagderreading error messages will make people react
23:32:12BagderI suggest a separate ucl target for it
23:32:18[IDC]DragonI'm no make guru, can we make that conditional (check for uclpack presence first)?
23:32:27Bagderso that 'make ucl' builds the ucl file
23:32:55[IDC]DragonBrr, I don't like that, we have too many targets already.
23:33:45Bagderwell, then you need to do some shell script magic to see if you can run uclpack and if you can, do it
23:33:53Bagderwithin the makefile I mean
23:34:17[IDC]DragonThat's where the guru part comes in...
23:34:17BagderI could volunteer to make that in fact
23:34:55Bagderlet me try...
23:34:57[IDC]DragonYes please, go ahead.
23:35:30[IDC]DragonDon't forget to add the ucl to the clean section.
23:35:57Bagdera clean section?
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23:36:53[IDC]Dragonwell, the list of stuff to be wiped away for "make clean"
23:36:53Bagderah
23:36:53Bagderok
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23:41:37Bagderuclpack −−best -2e $(OBJDIR)/rockbox.bin $(OBJDIR)/rockbox.ucl
23:41:43Bagderwas that the line?
23:41:51[IDC]DragonBagder, somehow the ucl is already in the clean section, with current cvs.
23:42:06[IDC]DragonLemme check..
23:42:48[IDC]Dragon$(TOOLSDIR)/uclpack −−best −−2e $(OBJDIR)/rockbox.bin $(OBJDIR)/rockbox.ucl
23:43:05Bagderthanks
23:44:42tracktheripperhi bag
23:44:48Bagderhi track
23:44:58tracktheripperwhat is the best web browser
23:45:20Bagderfor linux? :-)
23:45:26scott666mozilla?
23:45:26tracktheripperno Windows
23:45:37Bagderme uses mozilla
23:45:42Bagderbut not windows
23:45:45tracktheripperBag could the Archos theoritecally read zip files
23:45:52Bagderyes
23:45:56tracktheripper:-)
23:46:07Bagdersmall zip files ;-)
23:46:19tracktheripperwell what u could do is dump MP3s into zip files to save HD space
23:46:30Bagder[IDC]Dragon: you wanna try it first or shall I just commit?
23:46:36Bagdertracktheripper: no
23:46:47tracktheripper:-((
23:46:47Bagdermp3 files are already compressed
23:46:51[IDC]Dragondoes it work for you in both cases?
23:46:56Bagderyes
23:47:02BagderI have run-time check for it
23:47:10[IDC]Dragonfire ahead, commit it.
23:47:26Bagderbut I assume that uclpack is in your path
23:47:31Bagdernot in the tools dir
23:47:37[IDC]Dragonuh, oh
23:48:24[IDC]Dragonfor me, I put it in tools like all the others.
23:48:36Bagderok then
23:48:40Bagderlet's do that
23:48:44[IDC]Dragonyou used "which" to check?
23:48:49Bagderno
23:48:52BagderI run it and check for output
23:49:10Bagder@a=`uclpack -h 2>/dev/null`;
23:49:20Bagderif test -n "$$a"; then \
23:49:22Bagderetc
23:49:34[IDC]Dragonlooks crude.
23:49:43Bagderhm
23:49:49BagderI don't wanna put it in tools
23:49:54[IDC]Dragonthere is to if exist, etc.
23:50:06[IDC]Dragonno if exist, I mean?
23:50:20Bagderit does
23:50:21tracktheripperZzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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23:50:25Bagderit exists in the shell make uses
23:51:20[IDC]Dragonwhy don't you like it in tools?
23:51:37Bagderit feels very odd to move a binary into the source tree like that
23:51:48Bagdera binary that isn't even special made for rockbox
23:52:04[IDC]Dragonwell, but almost.
23:52:21[IDC]DragonThe other binaries are in that dir, right?
23:52:42Bagderto be honest, I'm not really happy with that either ;-)
23:52:58Bagderbut they were written for rockbox
23:53:06[IDC]DragonAha.
23:53:10Bagderwe don't have gcc and ld etc in there
23:53:22[IDC]DragonWell, do as you please, I'll adjust for it.
23:53:42Bagderlet's start like this anyway
23:55:27Bagdercommitted
23:55:50Bagderhm
23:55:58Bagderthen I think I need to fix the daily build stuff too
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23:58:24[IDC]Dragonwhy?
23:58:33Bagderbecause I run an extra uclpack in there
23:58:42Bagderit might not do any harm of course
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