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#rockbox log for 2003-08-07

00:00:04midknight2k3bye then
00:00:08 Quit midknight2k3 ("AFTERNOON -=SysReset 2.53=-")
00:05:33 Join Galik [0] (~galik@195.137.124.20)
00:05:57*Plugh sniffs
00:06:00Plughoh
00:06:02PlughGalik
00:06:18Galiklo Plugh
00:06:29Galiksup?
00:06:50Plugha little work, a lot of goofing off...
00:09:12Plughwanna buy a gas mask? http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3119680/
00:10:26Galikhmm not really. if people are gonna start throwing gas around then I don't think I really wanna be here...
00:10:46GalikMind you they are fairly cheep...
00:31:30PlughI was just lmao that there's a market for them in the States
00:32:30Plughthat was kinda neat. Just hotsynced my palm phone to my laptop using IR
00:39:03 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m33.net81-67-42.noos.fr)
00:39:20BoD[]yo !
00:41:41 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)")
00:45:59 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBAD773.ipt.aol.com)
00:46:14tracktheripperHello Room!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
00:46:33tracktheripper:-)
00:47:59 Quit earHurts (Remote closed the connection)
00:48:10Bagderthis is a channel ;-9
00:49:36tracktheripperhey bag :-)
00:51:33tracktheripperive just realized what codec is short for
00:52:10tracktheripper"Codec" means COmpressor DECompressor :-)
00:55:47tracktheripperhello?????
00:57:01Bagdercongratulations
00:57:16Bagderfor your discovery!
00:57:35tracktheripperwhy thank you Bagder!!!
00:58:11*Plugh tosses a cookie at ttr
00:58:40tracktheripperthank you Plugg
00:59:03Plughit's pronounced Ploog
00:59:12tracktheripperoh right ploog
00:59:17Plughit's the sound one makes when coughing in mid-shit
00:59:28tracktheripper:D
01:00
01:03:51Plughmy craptop had a terrible state of a rockbox dev environment
01:03:58Plughpretty much had to rebuild it
01:04:07tracktheripperAwwwwwwww
01:04:07tracktheripper:(
01:04:35Plughdidn't lose anything
01:04:42Plughjust glad it's working properly
01:04:52Plughat least I didn't have to reinstall cygwin
01:05:00tracktheripperkool
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01:14:00tracktheripperits too hot in London :((
01:21:45BoD[]in paris too
01:22:46BoD[]i saw t3 today... it's a comedy this film
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01:27:56tracktheripperwheres midknight
01:28:01tracktheripperhavent seen him for a while now
01:28:20Bagderhe left a while before you arrived
01:28:41tracktheripper:O
01:28:47tracktheripper:-(
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01:29:44tracktheripperu scared him off Bagder :-(
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01:37:32Plughrunning off in droves
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01:38:46Bagderme too soon
01:38:54Bagder1:40 am here
01:39:39diddystar54:40 pm here :)
01:39:45Plughsame here
01:39:50Plughwhere are you did?
01:40:02diddystar5oregon you?
01:40:36PlughCali
01:40:49diddystar5cool
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01:41:27PlughSF area
01:41:51diddystar5humm i have some family there in sf
01:42:25Plughcool. I may have double parked them, or backed into their cars
01:43:08Bagderhehe
01:43:31diddystar5:)
01:43:50*Plugh is an evil bastard
01:44:45*diddystar5 agreas
01:45:12*Bagder is scared
01:45:57*diddystar5 dosen't own a car only 3 more years!
01:46:24*Bagder owns one
01:46:31Bagderthat isn't double parked!
01:47:16Plugh3 years till what?
01:47:27diddystar5i can drive!
01:48:15diddystar5i'm just a annonying little 13 year old kid
01:49:24Plughdude, you just hurt my brain
01:49:38PlughI've been online longer than your entire life
01:49:50BagderB-]
01:50:22PlughI've been running Linux since before you could walk
01:51:11diddystar5whoa your old!
01:51:31Bagderi think many people in the rockbox community are
01:51:46Bagderme, Björn and linus are all >30
01:53:22*rhyno666 is 16
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01:53:48diddystar5i have many years to learn all that linux stuff and c :)
01:54:00diddystar5and rockbox got me started
01:54:04Plughand girls
01:54:05Plughheh
01:54:09scott666heh
01:54:53diddystar5gotta go dinner time ummm spageti
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02:00
02:04:39Bagdergood night
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02:54:55BoD[]sleep
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03:10:22***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
03:19:21Plughlast cvsup before heading home...
03:20:39Plughnothing new :(
03:28:33hardeepPlugh: there is a mailist list if you want to be notified of cvs commits
03:28:56hardeepPlugh: saves you from having to poll
03:29:05hardeeper s/mailist/mailing
03:29:07PlughI know
03:29:13 Quit Malphas__ ("Because")
03:29:16PlughI'll sub it some day ;)
03:31:53Plughokay, I subbed
03:33:32PlughI could just procmail out the rockbox-cvs and update whenever I receive notification ;)
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05:07:43hardeepexit
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05:25:29scott66624 =6
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05:27:08scott666ummm
05:27:09scott666s
05:27:12scott666sorry
05:27:17scott66624 != 6
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06:01:26MiChAeLoLSchwarzenegger for Governor!
06:04:51earHurtsoh whatever
06:09:29elinenbeMilk is for babies, drink beer
06:10:08MTGot Game?
06:10:12*MiChAeLoL watches it rain lipshitters and pussyfucks
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06:58:27midknight2k3can earhurts walk me thru coding the redzone?
07:00
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07:40:01earHurtsnot now, I'm eating
07:40:14midknight2k3i said that about thre hours ago lol
07:40:45earHurtsI've been very hungry
07:41:02midknight2k3no problem lol
07:41:28Plughheh. I just had bbq ribs, cornbread, salad, potato, and raspberry pie
07:41:36midknight2k3mmmmmmm
07:41:37midknight2k3pie
07:41:41Plughoh, and some hot chicken wings
07:41:48midknight2k3MMM
07:41:51midknight2k3mm mmm
07:42:04earHurtsalcoholic cider
07:42:10Plughstill hungry?
07:42:10Plugh;)
07:44:47earHurtshave you found where peakmeter writes to the screen?
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07:57:14Plughwant me to look Ear?
07:57:25midknight2k3oh
07:57:31Plughor is it obfuscated?
07:57:39midknight2k3lol sorry didnt see that this mirc thing is ... "fscking" up
07:57:53midknight2k3i did before hang on
07:58:52earHurts now, it's clear
07:59:04earHurtsz/now/no
07:59:16midknight2k3?
07:59:31earHurtsit's obvious code
08:00
08:00:09Plughwpa-display.c
08:00:15Plugherr wps
08:00:21Plughin apps/
08:00:25midknight2k3i thhought it was in peakmeter.c
08:00:31midknight2k3it is in peakmeter.c
08:00:31earHurtspeakmeter.c?
08:00:32midknight2k3it has to be
08:00:39midknight2k3in apps/recorder
08:00:42earHurtsyeah
08:00:43 Nick dw|gone_ is now known as dwihno (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se)
08:00:49midknight2k3what i THOUGH, plugh
08:00:52midknight2k3though
08:00:56midknight2k3thoughT!
08:01:10midknight2k3right here
08:01:19Plugh if (flags & refresh_mode & WPS_REFRESH_PEAK_METER) {
08:01:19Plugh /* peak meter */
08:01:19Plugh int peak_meter_y;
08:01:19Plugh int offset = global_settings.statusbar ? STATUSBAR_HEIGHT : 0;
08:01:19Plugh update_line = true;
08:01:19midknight2k3it says draw the peakmeter
08:01:21Plugh peak_meter_y = i * h + offset;
08:01:30midknight2k3um
08:01:34midknight2k3it calls the peakemter
08:01:36Plughthat's where is says to draw the peakmeter
08:01:38midknight2k3not makes it itself
08:01:45earHurtsthat establishes where it is
08:01:58midknight2k3so it's in wps-display.c?
08:02:10earHurtsthe actual drawing i think is in peakmeter
08:02:15midknight2k3SEE PLUGH
08:02:16midknight2k3sigh
08:02:18Plugh peak_meter_draw(0, peak_meter_y, LCD_WIDTH,
08:02:18Plugh MIN(h, LCD_HEIGHT - peak_meter_y));
08:02:22PlughI see
08:02:53midknight2k3/* draw the peak meter */
08:02:53midknight2k3 lcd_clearrect(x, y, width, height);
08:02:53midknight2k3 /* draw left */
08:02:53DBUGEnqueued KICK midknight2k3
08:02:53midknight2k3 lcd_fillrect (x, y, left, height / 2 - 2 );
08:03:02midknight2k3is this correct?
08:03:07earHurtsyeah
08:03:16midknight2k3as seen in PEAKMETER.C
08:03:26midknight2k3not in WPS-DISPLAY like SOME people THOUGHT!
08:03:27earHurtsok, first, you want to call fillrect twice
08:03:44Plughdumb place for it
08:03:46earHurtsonce to do the normal, and once for the red zone
08:03:47Plughin recorder/
08:04:03midknight2k3not at all plugh
08:04:06midknight2k3look around is all
08:04:13midknight2k3ok ok hang on i lost the place
08:04:22Plughwell, you'd think it'd be a step closer to common/
08:04:23scott6663333
08:04:32midknight2k3here we go
08:04:32scott666fucking cat
08:04:34midknight2k3uh
08:04:35earHurts6666
08:04:37midknight2k3player has no peak meter
08:04:43Plughwps does
08:04:50earHurtsoh course it dowsn't
08:04:51midknight2k3but not for the PLAYER
08:05:01midknight2k3so it's not common
08:05:02earHurtsfucking sheep
08:05:10midknight2k3ok ok here it is
08:05:20midknight2k3so fillrect twice
08:05:28PlughI didn't say IN common. Just a step closer ;)
08:05:35midknight2k3SIGH!
08:05:44earHurtsyeah, once for the non-red rectangle, once for the red rectangle
08:05:52Plughdon't listen to me. I'm just critical
08:06:11scott666how are you making things red??
08:06:13midknight2k3done
08:06:14scott666lol
08:06:15midknight2k3i think
08:06:16midknight2k3lol
08:06:20midknight2k3it's BLACK
08:06:29midknight2k3just called red
08:06:36scott666oh
08:06:39scott666THAT makes sense
08:06:46earHurtsyou'll have to call it with different parameters, ok?
08:06:57scott666from now on call me jimbo
08:07:00scott666ill still be scott
08:07:05scott666but call me jimbo
08:07:22earHurtsok, jumbo
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08:07:31DBUGEnqueued KICK I_am_Plugh_but_c
08:07:31***Alert Mode level 1
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08:07:35DBUGEnqueued KICK Plugh
08:07:35***Alert Mode level 2
08:07:38Plughdern
08:07:50earHurtsbruce dern?
08:07:58Plughhuh?
08:08:06midknight2k3so it needs to fillrect for left and right, correct?
08:08:12earHurtshe was in some weird movies
08:08:19Plughah
08:08:23midknight2k3filrect twice for right and left i mean
08:08:30earHurtsyeah, to the left you have a rect for the black zone
08:08:46earHurtsand immediately to the right the red rect
08:09:06midknight2k3i think i get it
08:09:08midknight2k3lol
08:09:47scott666one more robot wants to be....something more than a machine...when it tries the way it does...makes it seem like it can love....cause its hard to say whats real...when you know the way you feel...is it wrong to think its right?...when it tries the way it does
08:09:49earHurtsit'll help if you #define RED_WIDTH = 10
08:10:10midknight2k3uh
08:10:31earHurtsor better, const int RED_WIDTH = 10 ;
08:10:43midknight2k3uhh
08:10:57midknight2k3so i put in "const int RED_WIDTH=10"?
08:11:05earHurts yeah
08:11:08midknight2k3where?
08:11:10midknight2k3anywhere?
08:11:13earHurtsput a semicolon after it
08:11:27earHurtsat file scope
08:11:38midknight2k3file scope? i'm sorry earhurts lol
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08:11:48earHurtsoutside any function
08:11:57earHurtsin peakmeter.c
08:11:58midknight2k3at the top seems to be the general place
08:12:02earHurtsat the top
08:12:05midknight2k3ok
08:13:06midknight2k3all right i hope i did it right
08:13:17midknight2k3there's some empty boxes that seem to be missing..
08:13:20earHurtsand, static const int RED_START = SCREEN_WIDTH - RED_WIDTH ;
08:14:02midknight2k3allright
08:17:36***Alert Mode OFF
08:19:44Plughwhoah
08:19:51PlughBritney posed nude for a mag
08:20:07earHurts woo-hoo
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08:20:26earHurtsI've seen silcone before
08:20:34midknight2k3hi bagder
08:20:47midknight2k3earhurts was uh just helping me to code that redzone on the peak emter
08:20:58Bagdermorning
08:21:04earHurtsmorning
08:24:39dwihnoWelcome back, Bagder.
08:24:59Plughwell, I'm gonna call it a night
08:25:01CtcpIgnored 4 channel CTCP requests in 4 minutes and 50 seconds at the last flood
08:25:01*Bagder bows
08:25:08earHurts night
08:25:09Plughsee y'all tomorrow
08:25:14midknight2k3earhurts
08:25:18midknight2k3are we going anywhere with this?
08:25:19earHurts?
08:25:23midknight2k3red zone
08:25:24earHurtsoh.
08:25:25midknight2k3is that it?
08:25:29earHurtsnope
08:25:36midknight2k3i doubted it
08:25:39midknight2k3nothing is that simple
08:25:45earHurtsnow find where the actual meter is written
08:26:01midknight2k3i did before right?
08:26:24earHurtsI /think/ that was the frame
08:26:51midknight2k3i am conguesd
08:26:55midknight2k3confused
08:27:10earHurtslet's finish this tomorrow, ok?
08:27:29midknight2k3you're tired ?
08:27:40earHurtsi'm feeling fat dum and tired
08:27:47earHurtsdumb, even
08:28:00midknight2k3oh well
08:28:10earHurtssatiated
08:29:26midknight2k3plugh
08:29:31midknight2k3can i have your old linux box?
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08:37:02Plughask my boss
08:37:46midknight2k3where and how?
08:38:22Plugh;)
08:38:25Plughg'night
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09:09:47midknight2k3earhurts
09:09:51midknight2k3if you're here
09:10:18midknight2k3maybe tomorrow we can just start over with the redzone thing and i can get a fresh copy of rockbox and do things right
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10:03:46tracktheripperhello
10:03:53midknight2k3hey hey
10:03:55midknight2k3track
10:04:03midknight2k3earhruts is helping me code the redzone
10:04:18tracktheripperreally?
10:04:42midknight2k3yeah
10:04:46midknight2k3tomorrow it should be ready
10:05:14tracktherippercool
10:05:16tracktheripper:-)
10:05:29midknight2k3yay!
10:05:33midknight2k3not that hard it seems
10:06:51tracktheripperok
10:07:00midknight2k3track
10:07:08midknight2k3i will lok into the reshuffle on repeat ok
10:07:35tracktheripperok
10:07:35tracktheripper:-)
10:07:53midknight2k3it seeems not too hard
10:08:00midknight2k3maybe i can even do it with some experimental code
10:08:05tracktheripper(-:
10:08:21midknight2k3dont get your hopes up
10:08:22midknight2k3lol
10:08:36tracktheripper:-(
10:08:38tracktheripper)-:
10:08:42midknight2k3hey
10:08:46midknight2k3i will really try
10:08:51midknight2k3but if i can't i can't
10:08:58midknight2k3at least not for now
10:09:08Bagderits slightly trickier than it may sound
10:09:17tracktheripperwhy?
10:09:18midknight2k3yes
10:09:25midknight2k3and it appears to have made you angry
10:09:29midknight2k3well
10:09:31midknight2k3the buffer thing
10:09:43midknight2k3the new song is already in buffer when we need to reshuffle
10:09:53midknight2k3i forgot bagder was here lol
10:09:54Bagdertracktheripper: because of how playlists work and the buffering of mp3 files
10:10:01tracktheripperso its not possible?
10:10:02tracktheripper:-(
10:10:10Bagderlet me repeat myself:
10:10:11Bagderits slightly trickier than it may sound
10:10:25midknight2k3lets see
10:10:27tracktheripperi know that but does it mean its not possible?
10:10:31Bagderlet me repeat myself:
10:10:32Bagderits slightly trickier than it may sound
10:10:40Bagderdid I say impossible anywhere?
10:10:51midknight2k3Fairly tricky + slightly trickier = Slightly more than fairly tricky
10:10:52tracktheripper:-\
10:10:56midknight2k3i can do it!
10:11:08midknight2k3hopefully in the next year
10:11:11tracktheripperwhy not wait until the last song finishes before reshuffling
10:11:12Bagderhehe
10:11:21Bagderbecause repeat is set
10:11:26Bagderthe next song is already loaded into the buffer
10:11:32midknight2k3lol
10:11:36midknight2k3keep postponing it
10:11:43midknight2k3"ok reshuffle on next track"
10:11:48midknight2k3next track is in buffer
10:11:51midknight2k3"ok, next"
10:11:52midknight2k3and so on
10:12:00tracktheripperwell why not erase the song from the buffer before reshuffling?
10:12:06midknight2k3yeah
10:12:07midknight2k3good idea
10:12:12midknight2k3track is a genius
10:12:15midknight2k3we can patent the idea
10:12:38midknight2k3how about this for explanatory code
10:13:02midknight2k3END_PLAYLIST EMPTY_BUFFER RESHUFFLE_PLAYLIST
10:13:05midknight2k3:D
10:14:28tracktheripperwell the Archos firmware had a sort of reshuffle function :D
10:14:41midknight2k3bagder is silent
10:14:54midknight2k3maybe he is coding it by working off track's empty-buffer idea
10:14:56tracktherippermidknight I think I know another way round i
10:14:56tracktherippert
10:15:17midknight2k3track this is payback for all them bogus requests
10:15:18midknight2k3lol
10:15:43tracktheripperwhy not reshuffle the playlist every 5th track or so?
10:15:49tracktherippernon-stop random music all day :D
10:16:11midknight2k3i dont know
10:16:27midknight2k3one thign track
10:16:34midknight2k3just don't file any more dupes
10:16:50tracktheripperi never file dupes
10:16:50tracktheripper:D
10:16:56midknight2k3uh
10:17:04midknight2k3there was two at least for the playlist shuffle one
10:17:07tracktheripperim very well behaved :D
10:17:13tracktheripperbrb
10:17:14midknight2k3oh yes?
10:17:18midknight2k3how about SDD?
10:22:25tracktheripper:-|
10:23:40tracktheripperwe were talking about reshuffle
10:24:01midknight2k3uh
10:24:03midknight2k3bagder is gone now
10:24:04tracktheripperactually Midknight I know the best way to reshuffle
10:24:51tracktherippermidknight what you can do is wait for the last song to finish, stop playback, reshuffle the playlist then restart playback with the playlist in its new order
10:25:17Bagdersomething like that is needed, yes
10:25:50tracktheripperi think that is the best solution
10:25:56tracktheripper1) let the last song finish
10:25:58tracktheripper2) stop playback
10:26:02tracktheripper3) reshuffle playlist
10:26:10tracktheripper4) restart playlist with tracks in new order
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10:28:20tracktheripperyay!!!!!!
10:28:21Bagderdr Zivago!
10:28:24Zagorhowdy
10:28:31midknight2k3zagor
10:28:37midknight2k3he's here
10:28:38midknight2k3hello
10:28:42Zagorhi
10:28:51midknight2k3track came up with an idea for the playlist junk
10:28:57tracktheripperhello Zagor!
10:29:03midknight2k3lol
10:29:08midknight2k3be nice track
10:29:21tracktheripperim always nice
10:29:21tracktheripper:-)
10:29:27midknight2k3yes you are
10:30:50tracktheripper:D
10:31:10tracktheripper:D
10:34:32tracktherippermidknight how about a basic on-the-fly "drum machine" so you can play along to u fave tunes or create ur own rhythms?
10:34:44midknight2k3lol
10:35:55tracktheripper:-)
10:36:47tracktheripper:D
10:37:03tracktheripperanyway midknight i never send requests
10:37:03tracktheripper:-(
10:37:13midknight2k3you used to
10:37:19midknight2k3as long as you bring it up...
10:37:55tracktheripper:-\
10:37:57tracktheripperbe quiet
10:38:18midknight2k3why did you bring it up?
10:38:24midknight2k3i never said anything
10:38:27tracktheripper:P
10:38:42tracktheripperits all about making a world-class firmware........
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10:58:49midknight2k3WHO HATES IPOD
10:58:50midknight2k3I DO
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11:03:10tracktheripperwhy?
11:03:27midknight2k3CAUSE THEY SUCK
11:03:31midknight2k3SUCK SUCK SUCK
11:04:45tracktheripperok what about a Creative Labs Zen?
11:04:56midknight2k3they aren't bad
11:05:09midknight2k3but you can't beat an archos with rockbox on it
11:06:04tracktheripperim sure Bjorn and co will do rockbox for other players
11:06:22tracktheripperactually Midknight how about Rockbox for a PC? (to replace Windows)
11:06:23tracktheripper:D
11:06:29midknight2k3no
11:06:32midknight2k3rockbox for a rioriot
11:06:35midknight2k3i could live with that
11:06:36midknight2k3:D
11:07:56tracktherippermidknight do an inverted vid line for the Player
11:07:56tracktheripper:D
11:08:02midknight2k3no!
11:08:04midknight2k3sheesh
11:09:01tracktheripper:-(
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11:13:08PsycoXulhey i'm talking my fmrec back to bestbuy (hd's fucked :/) for replacement
11:13:24midknight2k3i thought you repalced yours
11:13:26PsycoXulif they don't have any fmrec's left (and they ran out of players and recorders long ago) what should i get?
11:13:31midknight2k3right now psyco?
11:13:37midknight2k3oh crap
11:13:38midknight2k3hang on
11:13:39midknight2k3lol
11:13:39PsycoXulno i'm probably going tomorrow
11:13:50midknight2k3uh oh
11:13:59midknight2k3all they have else mostly is.... GASP iPods
11:14:14midknight2k3creative nomad jukebox zen
11:14:19midknight2k3but
11:14:24midknight2k3then no more rockbox!
11:14:28PsycoXullast time, before they found one of the fm's in there, they said maybe a creative labs heh
11:14:30PsycoXulbut yeah that sucks :/
11:14:33PsycoXuli love rockbox
11:14:38midknight2k3yeah
11:14:44midknight2k3i'd take it over an ipod any day
11:14:48midknight2k3most others wouldn't
11:14:53midknight2k3well
11:14:54PsycoXulwhy?
11:14:57midknight2k3i'd TEST the ipod first
11:14:58midknight2k3lol
11:15:03PsycoXulheh
11:15:07midknight2k3just to see you know
11:15:09midknight2k3lol
11:15:15PsycoXulto see what?
11:15:23tracktheripperIve TESTED an Ipod
11:15:24tracktheripper:-)
11:15:28midknight2k3uh, yeah, um, you know... it, uh...
11:15:38midknight2k3to test... you know.. test..
11:16:10PsycoXuloh yeah and it has to be compatible with linux for file transfer
11:16:39midknight2k3mmmm... http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1055343967396&skuId=5678171&type=product&productCategoryId=cat01052
11:16:48midknight2k3tempting
11:18:48midknight2k3can you get a refund at best buy psyco?
11:18:54midknight2k3or must it be something they have?
11:19:07PsycoXuli think it has to be something they have
11:19:13midknight2k3bulljunk
11:19:25PsycoXulwell actualy
11:19:35PsycoXulcome to think of it, my parents once took a printer in
11:19:47PsycoXuland they couldn't fix it, and didn't have any more or any comparable
11:19:58PsycoXuland i think they ended up getting a credit for it and buying it somewhere else
11:20:00midknight2k3lol
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11:20:10PsycoXulbut i think the credit was still for bestbuy or something, i'm not sure how that all worked out heh
11:20:10Zagorhub.c
11:20:11midknight2k3"I hate that creative crap... gimme my money back"
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11:20:15Bagderwrong window?
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11:20:21midknight2k3uh
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11:20:23midknight2k3zagor
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11:20:25midknight2k3lol
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11:21:02Zagorouch, sorry
11:21:04Zagoreh, quite :)
11:21:21midknight2k3no problem
11:21:22midknight2k3lol
11:21:22tracktheripperWOW!!!
11:21:24midknight2k3it's funny
11:21:25tracktheripperZagor is Smiling!!!
11:21:32midknight2k3shutup track
11:21:38tracktheripper:P
11:21:48Zagorvery annoying. i've bought a new shiny 20" TFT screen, only to find that the analog-out of the laptop i'm using is too noisy to produce good-quality display :( so now I need a new computer too...
11:21:52Topic"361 open feature requests" by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se)
11:22:01tracktheripperI want a TFT
11:22:07tracktheripperbut im worried about stuck picels
11:22:08tracktheripperpixels
11:22:15midknight2k3cool zagor
11:22:21midknight2k3is it nice and shiny?
11:22:24midknight2k3which kind is it?
11:22:31Zagordell fp2000
11:22:37midknight2k3seriously?
11:22:40Zagoryup
11:22:41midknight2k3that's like the best there is cool
11:22:47tracktherippermidknight my digital camera's TFT panel has a stuck red pixel in the corner :-(
11:22:54midknight2k3hahahahaha
11:23:09midknight2k3wow though that's got to be quite an investment
11:23:09tracktheripperFortunatly you only see it when the battery meter is empty
11:23:36Zagornah, it's not much more expensive than a good 21" crt
11:23:48midknight2k3still
11:23:57tracktheripperis the refresh rate good enough for fast games?
11:24:05midknight2k3i hear yes
11:24:07Zagoryes, 25ms
11:24:08midknight2k3very very good
11:24:28tracktheripperwe have a 60 inch plasma at work
11:24:29tracktheripper:)
11:24:37midknight2k3lol
11:25:04midknight2k3zagor, does it say ultrasharp in the upper left hand corner?
11:25:29Zagoryup
11:25:49midknight2k3yay zagor is part of the expensive lcd .. thing
11:25:56midknight2k3pxels aplenty!
11:26:01midknight2k3pixels aplenty
11:26:09tracktheripperNo stuck pixels I hope :)
11:28:59tracktheripperZaggor what is the image quality on your TFT like compared to a CRT?
11:29:08midknight2k3TRACK!
11:29:13midknight2k3it's super high quality
11:29:47tracktheripper:D
11:35:13midknight2k3zagor
11:35:22midknight2k3do you have your old model around?
11:35:25midknight2k3is it a crt?
11:37:05midknight2k3Zagor!
11:37:10midknight2k3Ok
11:37:15midknight2k3who has an old crt laying around?
11:40:03midknight2k3nobody is here
11:40:05midknight2k3great
11:40:24tracktheripperZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
11:40:30midknight2k3yay
11:40:30midknight2k3track
11:40:33midknight2k3have a crt?
11:40:35midknight2k3can i use it?
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13:13:39HarlequinHi all. Quick question for you. I can charge my recorder outside the Rockbox OS and it charges fully. Then I boot it and it shows a charge of about 50%. So I charge it inside the OS and it charges up to 100%. So I unplug the charger and reboot, and it's back down to 38%. Any ideas?
13:14:32Bagderyou mean how to fix the bug?
13:14:35HarlequinIt says on the batteries FAQ that it might go down a little bit while the HD is spinning, but over 50% isn't a little bit. That's why I think something is wrong
13:14:52HarlequinWell I don't know whether it's a bug or it's the unit itself.
13:15:35Bagderso how do you know it charges to 100% in archos?
13:16:37HarlequinI have the battery charge set to numeric rather than the default.
13:17:24Bagderoutside rockbox?
13:17:28HarlequinWhen it's booted to rockbox, the charge goes up over time to 100 and stays there for as long the charger is plugged in.
13:17:46HarlequinNo, outside rockbox I just leave it plugged in until it says "charged"
13:23:01HarlequinDo you think it's the unit or what?
13:32:31Zagorit's a software bug, methinks
13:32:59Zagorwe read the power level before it has been stabilized since last disk spinup
13:33:32Zagorit could be worth it changing the power change speed throttle to only throttle decreases, not increases
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16:19:12blastman007hi
16:19:21blastman007someone here ?
16:19:49Bagderyes
16:20:55blastman007hi
16:21:10blastman007can i use more than 4 batteries for my archos recorder ?
16:21:52Bagdernot at the same time, no
16:22:20blastman007only 4 ? but why ?
16:22:29Bagderbecause it is built like that
16:22:45Bagderget some 2200 mah ones or something
16:22:49Bagderand you'll get 12+ hours
16:23:09blastman007yes i bought 4 on ebay
16:23:22blastman007but i want more power
16:23:28Bagderthen get a few spare sets, and you'll go on for days
16:24:34blastman007can i put an batterie pack on the bottom ?
16:24:53Bagderyou can replace the batteries
16:25:02Bagderwhen they run out
16:25:13Bagderkeep 24 spare ones in your pocket ;-)
16:25:34blastman007yes
16:25:50blastman007but i mus allways set the time
16:26:12blastman007i want to connect 4 batteries with the other 4
16:26:19blastman007so i have 8
16:26:30Bagderthen you need to rebuild some hw
16:26:33BagderI bet it _can_ be done
16:26:34blastman007musst be possible
16:26:38Bagderif you know electronics
16:26:49Bagderbut then you wouldn't need to ask in the first place ;-)
16:26:52blastman007and i need some place to put them in
16:28:27blastman007I read a 8mb recorder could play 16hours of music
16:28:49Bagderyeah, it'll run a little extra due to the less using of the harddisk
16:30:46blastman007is your archos getting hot too when its charging?
16:30:55Bagderyes
16:31:15blastman007hmm
16:34:07blastman007i could by 8mb for 19euros bur i dont know how to do this
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16:36:36Bagder5 stars! that sure sounds good! ;-)
16:37:12blastman007:-)=
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18:17:24JunkeyWRKgreetings :)
18:17:42scott666hey
18:18:33JunkeyWRKquestion, i have the fm recorder and the latest rockbox software loaded, i see from the website that you support the radio now, but i can't figure out how to access the radio from the interface and i dont see any reference to it in the manual. any help?
18:18:53JunkeyWRKis it only beta right now or is it in the released version?
18:21:03hardeepJunkeyWRK: The radio support is in the daily builds
18:21:09JunkeyWRKokay
18:21:24JunkeyWRKso eventually it will release to the regular version
18:21:27scott666i thought he said he had the latest
18:21:48scott666ahhh, just a warped view of 'latest'
18:22:01JunkeyWRKwell...not daily builds, this...http://rockbox.haxx.se/download/rockbox-2.0-fmrecorder.zip
18:22:11scott666get a daily build
18:22:13JunkeyWRKwarped, hehe
18:22:25scott666trust me, youll never go back
18:22:29JunkeyWRKwell..are the daily builds considered beta? are they safe?
18:22:31scott666tons of new features
18:22:46scott666ive never had any problems
18:23:10scott666any bugs that get introduced with new code are minor most of the time
18:23:20JunkeyWRKi'll give it a shot, thanks
18:25:01scott666ooh! i have a question
18:25:46scott666has anyone with an FMR done the 8mb ram mod, and if so, why isnt there a 8mb fmr build?
18:26:54hardeepscott666: i don't believe anyone with an fmr has done the mod
18:27:36hardeepsame with player
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18:29:21LUMOSDo we have to chnage the CYGWIN rb-update.sh script for the new CVS servers?
18:29:35LUMOSchange
18:29:54hardeepLUMOS: what script are you referring to?
18:30:25LUMOSthe script which updates the source tree from CVS. It doesnt want to log in any more. Havent used it for 3 weeks
18:31:04LUMOSthe /bin/rb-update.sh script
18:32:06hardeepLUMOS: sorry, not familiar with that script... i just manually use cvs to download source
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18:34:08LUMOSOk, can you guide me through the command? lets see: cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.rockbox.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/rockbox update -dP
18:34:32hardeepLUMOS: see http://rockbox.haxx.se/cvs.html
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20:25:26midknight2k3hi
20:29:31Zagorhowdy
20:30:00midknight2k3is your nice new LCD working?
20:30:07Zagorhmm, my fp2000 at home doesn't have the UltraSharp mark in the top-left corner. i wonder if that means any differnce.
20:30:33Zagoryeah it's working but I need a new graphics card with dvi-d at work. the analog vga dsub is too noisy :(
20:30:33midknight2k3i think correctly it is 2000FP
20:30:49Zagoryeah, maybe. it doesn't say anywhere on the front :)
20:33:11midknight2k3which video card are you planning to get?
20:33:19midknight2k3do regualr ones work with linux?
20:34:25Zagoryeah, most cards work with linux
20:34:36midknight2k3wow
20:34:43midknight2k3and do sound card works too?
20:34:50midknight2k3and do sound cards work too?
20:34:51Zagori'll probably just use an old matrox 450 i have
20:34:53Zagoryes
20:35:02midknight2k3hery neat
20:35:13midknight2k3and linux can support dvd-i or wahtever?
20:35:30Zagoryes
20:35:37Zagordvi-d
20:35:37midknight2k3dvi-d
20:35:42midknight2k3beat you to it
20:35:49Zagornot on my screen :)
20:35:50midknight2k3i knew all along
20:36:04midknight2k3> and linux can support dvd-i or wahtever?
20:36:04midknight2k3<Zagor> yes
20:36:04midknight2k3> dvi-d
20:36:04DBUGEnqueued KICK midknight2k3
20:36:04midknight2k3<Zagor> dvi-d
20:36:20midknight2k3therefore i beat you to it by about 3ms
20:36:23Zagor<Zagor> dvi-d
20:36:23Zagor<midknight2k3> dvi-d
20:36:29midknight2k3WHAT>
20:36:33midknight2k3you lie?
20:36:34Zagor:)
20:36:35midknight2k3or what?
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20:36:42Zagorno, that's how it looked on my screen
20:36:44midknight2k3it showed me say it first
20:37:05midknight2k3earHurts! hello
20:37:12midknight2k3have you submitted any patches today?
20:37:20midknight2k3Zagor it was funny i stumbled across your patch
20:37:27Zagorwhich one?
20:37:34midknight2k3i don't know
20:37:43midknight2k3but the main rockbox developer, making a patch
20:37:45earHurtsnot today
20:37:47midknight2k3it just seemed odd
20:37:51midknight2k3any at all earHurts?
20:38:02earHurtsnope
20:38:05ZagorearHurts: still the bad ear?
20:38:23midknight2k3he never had a abd ear
20:38:30midknight2k3i need to work on typing better
20:38:31earHurtsno, the ear got better long ago
20:38:31midknight2k3lol
20:38:34midknight2k3oh
20:38:39midknight2k3forget what i said
20:38:41midknight2k3earHurts
20:38:44midknight2k3keep your name
20:38:44earHurtsI just held on to the nick
20:38:47midknight2k3yes
20:38:49midknight2k3do so forever
20:39:34midknight2k3lol look at all these names Rio is coming up with
20:39:47midknight2k3for their new line of players:
20:39:57midknight2k3karma, nitrus, eigen, fuse, cali, chiba
20:40:42midknight2k3I want an oscillograph on the wps!
20:40:52midknight2k3like the Rio Karma
20:40:53midknight2k3http://images2.dmusic.com/users/y/o/u/your-mom/5337.jpg
20:41:38Zagorhow silly is that, comparing the size of a flash player with a hd player
20:41:47midknight2k3it's not flash
20:41:48midknight2k3lol
20:41:51midknight2k3it's 20GB
20:42:17midknight2k3NO
20:42:18Zagor20gb what?
20:42:19midknight2k3its 40GB
20:42:28midknight2k340gb is that "flash player"
20:42:37midknight2k3IPOD SUCKS hahahahaha
20:42:39midknight2k3they will die
20:42:41Zagorwell what does it contain? there are no 40gb disks that small.
20:42:45earHurtsthey have 2 models, a 20 and a 40
20:42:51midknight2k3i know!
20:42:55midknight2k340 microdrives
20:42:55Zagorso...?
20:43:44earHurtscan you hack on it?
20:43:53midknight2k3probably
20:43:58Zagormidknight2k3: are you serious? 40 individual microdrives?
20:44:04midknight2k3something i wish worked for the rio riot
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20:44:08midknight2k3Zagor: i do not know
20:44:13midknight2k3it was a joke and a guess
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20:44:22midknight2k3it uses mini hard drive
20:44:22Zagordoes the product exist, or is it just a concept drawing?
20:44:34midknight2k3it will be released in november or something
20:44:40midknight2k3and it looks like that
20:44:47earHurtsit's 'expected' to be released next quarter
20:44:48Zagorlink?
20:45:00earHurtsit's on slashdot
20:45:34Zagoryou mean there's non-sco news on /. !? ;)
20:45:51midknight2k3http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid73/pb51f4a62d8e6605b8ab9fec78c5067ba/fb760666.jpg
20:45:58earHurtsunfortunately
20:46:06earHurtsI miss my sco fix
20:46:15midknight2k3Zagor
20:46:17Zagori want info, not pictures
20:46:22midknight2k3supposedly it's a hard drive in there
20:46:36midknight2k3"The Karma, of course, is the HDD player (going to be available in 20/40 GB flavors). "
20:47:04Zagorwell, there are no drives on sale that size. so it'll cost a fortune if it's true.
20:47:13midknight2k3not really
20:47:23midknight2k3maybe 300 for the 20 and 400 for the 40?
20:48:22Plughcheck this crazy shit out. http://www.lastar.net/product.asp?cat%5Fid=1806&sku=29581
20:48:31Zagoryou're not thinking rationally. the 1.8" toshiba drives are $300 for 20GB, just the drives.
20:48:31Plughplugs into the archos
20:48:36Plughmini B USB :)
20:48:42midknight2k3hey zagor
20:48:47earHurts I'll buy one, if zagor reverse engineers it
20:48:57midknight2k3if you didn't know the 20gig rio riot is only 150 now
20:49:03midknight2k3me too lol
20:49:16Zagormidknight2k3: yes, but that's not using a 1" drive!
20:49:29midknight2k3lol
20:49:31midknight2k3yeah
20:49:36midknight2k3it could be up to 500
20:49:46Zagorit could be vaporware
20:49:46midknight2k3but rio wouldn't go much higher than that
20:49:57MTZagor: im trying to work out why the fm recorder has boot problems when flashed - is the boot loader code available anywhere?
20:50:18ZagorMT: not yet, i'll see too it shortly
20:50:31midknight2k3boot problems?
20:50:35MTok, no rush :)
20:50:47MTit doesnt boot up unless you hold down on
20:50:48Zagori wanted to give jörg some time to clean it, but since he now goes on vacation i guess he didn't feel it was that important
20:50:52earHurtsplugh, I'm assuming a lighted usb cable means even less recharging power
20:51:04MTwhich in turn, means you cant use the rtc wakeup
20:51:13MTas it wakeups, then instantly powers down again
20:51:14midknight2k3earhurts
20:51:19Zagor(note that i'm not saying he doesn't deserve the vacation!)
20:51:20midknight2k3does it charge the unit when plugged in?
20:51:21earHurts?
20:51:34earHurtson the fm, yes
20:51:41midknight2k3thats what i thought
20:51:44earHurtsnot sure about others
20:52:08earHurtsbut it's a slower charge than the mains chatgere
20:52:16midknight2k3lookie!
20:52:17midknight2k3http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/008034.php#008034
20:52:35MTmm
20:52:44MTi think i have a bad solder
20:52:49midknight2k3uh oh
20:52:58MTmy ear out is 'dodgy'
20:53:13MTonly get left channel
20:53:15midknight2k3fix it
20:53:17Plughwhen I'm plugged into the USB port, I'm not as concerned with charge time
20:53:19MTunless i wiggle and push
20:53:36Plughcuz I usually just go ahead and plug into the wall anyway
20:53:57Plughand the archos uses a tiny fraction of the power available to it on the USB
20:54:02midknight2k3lots of activity this orning
20:54:29earHurtsmaybe i'm wrong then
20:54:52MTare those sorts of things easy to fix tho?
20:55:00midknight2k3MT: yes
20:55:08midknight2k3take off the over, and open it up and solder it back on
20:56:36MTwonder what ive done with my allen keys
20:56:56midknight2k3it's a torx
20:57:18MTthat may be the same thing
20:57:24MThere, its called an allen key
20:57:44MThexagonal key
20:58:01midknight2k3be careful
20:58:10midknight2k3it's not really hexagonal
20:58:11scott666idt torx and allen are the same
20:58:11midknight2k3OH
20:58:16midknight2k3the fm recorder
20:58:22midknight2k3i thought you meant the recorder
20:58:32scott666fm recorder uses torx too
20:58:40midknight2k3does it?
20:58:45scott666its star shaped, not hexagonal
20:58:55Plughtorx and allen are different ;)
20:59:02midknight2k3yes
20:59:10earHurts fm uses torx
20:59:16scott666yeah
20:59:41MThmm
20:59:46MTwell all i got is allen
20:59:49MTworked last time
20:59:50MT\o/
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21:00:18scott666a very small allen would probably work fine
21:04:32Plughit does work. But a torx worx better
21:04:33Plugh;)
21:04:49MTcant find the bloody thing anyways
21:05:10midknight2k3boo
21:07:12MTheh
21:07:28MTi went downstairs to get my very small screwdrivers, and the allen key was sitting next to them
21:07:40MThmm
21:07:41MTno
21:07:45MTthats the wrong size
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21:27:18MTare any of the case solders on the fmr electrical?
21:27:27midknight2k3no
21:27:37midknight2k3but put them back when you finish
21:34:29scott666wait...case solders?
21:34:41midknight2k3boards soldered to the outside case
21:34:51scott666oh
21:34:52scott666right
21:34:54scott666heh
21:36:32midknight2k3ggogoog
21:36:39midknight2k3are you bored?
21:36:46midknight2k3scott can you code for rockbox
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22:03:34midknight2k3HI HI HI
22:03:56midknight2k3earhurts can you help me finish the code for the redzone?
22:04:01midknight2k3or later
22:05:54earHurts(!534
22:05:58earHurtslater
22:06:09midknight2k3(!534?
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22:12:47[IDC]DragonHi, just a quick IRC to say bye for the next 2 weeks.
22:12:53midknight2k3hey
22:12:54midknight2k3oh
22:12:57midknight2k3we'll miss you
22:13:02[IDC]Dragonno way
22:13:06midknight2k3where you going for vacation?
22:13:09midknight2k3yes we will
22:13:10Zagorhave a good vacation, dragon!
22:13:23midknight2k3yes have a great vacation we WILL miss you
22:13:27[IDC]Dragonto the montains of Austria.
22:13:33MTive decided im very poor at soldering
22:13:33midknight2k3wow
22:13:35midknight2k3have fun
22:13:42midknight2k3lol MT
22:13:44MTit just took me 45 minutes to desolder 7 joints
22:13:54midknight2k345 minutes?
22:14:17[IDC]DragonZagor, from the logs you sounded like you miss some completion from me?
22:14:34midknight2k3the part where on the fmr you have to hold the on to get it going
22:14:37MTand i have no idea of the next step :/
22:14:47Zagorwe haven't yet added all the flash code to cvs, have we? maybe i'm mistaken?
22:15:02[IDC]DragonNo, not at all.
22:15:12[IDC]DragonJust one plugin by now.
22:15:53Zagorthat's what I thought. so it's difficult for MT to debug the boot code right now.
22:16:02[IDC]DragonI have the other one ready, but since it now wants a CRC it would confuse more than help, I think.
22:16:16[IDC]DragonThe boot code is unchanged.
22:16:39[IDC]DragonIt doesn't do anything, just decompress and start.
22:17:13[IDC]DragonMT, what are you up to?
22:18:05[IDC]DragonZagor, I gave you all the code I made, a while ago. Some of it is not up to date any more, I admit.
22:19:54Zagoryes, i have the code. i'm not complaining, i just described the situation.
22:22:43MTJorg: the FM recorder you have to hold on to boot up, thats not desirable as it breaks the RTC alarm wakeup on the FMR
22:23:22midknight2k3and it cancels resume until as of yesterday when you guys fixed it
22:24:25[IDC]DragonMT: I'm not doing anything to the on button, I'm clueless.
22:25:42[IDC]DragonZagor, do you want a newer code package, like to be the custodian?
22:26:22Zagordragon: sure, if you've got newer code i'd be happy to have it
22:27:39MTJorg: the on button triggers the initialisation and boot up code
22:27:56MTsomething you do, or dont do, causes the unit to poweroff
22:28:06MTunless the on button stays depressed
22:28:12Zagoryes. the question is why it powers off. someone should take a deep look at the electronics
22:29:03MTwheres Stevie :)
22:29:18[IDC]DragonI miss him, too.
22:29:23 Quit remus (Remote closed the connection)
22:29:32MTright
22:29:33MTfood
22:29:38MTthen solder it back up
22:29:51MTim amazed it still works after i went at it with a soldering iron
22:30:03midknight2k3and wait 8 weeks to have archos fix a HEADPHONE CONNECTOR
22:30:09MTno
22:30:23MTi shall send it to the place i bought it from
22:30:28midknight2k3oh
22:30:31midknight2k3thank god
22:30:31MTand they will replace it immediately
22:30:59MTmy warranty is with them, not archos
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22:35:41[IDC]DragonZagor, source is on the way.
22:35:53Zagornice. thanks.
22:45:00midknight2k3i'll be back later
22:45:01midknight2k3bye
22:45:08midknight2k3actualy
22:45:12midknight2k3i will stay a bit longer
22:45:15Zagor:)
22:45:24midknight2k3lol
22:45:50[IDC]DragonZagor, did the code arrive? Maybe you'd like to forward it tom MT.
22:46:02[IDC]Dragonto MT.
22:46:48Zagoryup, it has arrived
22:47:16MTgood god
22:47:26midknight2k3what
22:47:29MTtheres a chance i may be screwed out of a replacement unit
22:47:34midknight2k3how?
22:47:35midknight2k3uh ho
22:48:12[IDC]DragonThe differences are platform befinitions for the bootloader, CRCs in the make_firmware tool and the flash_firmware plugin.
22:48:30MTmy supplier says "warranty claims must be made with the supplier"
22:48:37MTand archos says
22:48:47[IDC]DragonAnd player support, of course.
22:48:51MTDefective products must be returned within 30 business days from receipt of product.
22:49:01midknight2k3uh oh
22:49:05midknight2k3maybe you have to solder
22:49:36[IDC]DragonAny way, I'm out, we leave early tomorrow.
22:49:43midknight2k3bye dragon
22:49:51ZagorMT: if i'm not mistaken, EU rules dictate 12 months warranty for *everything*, no wiggle room
22:50:10 Quit [IDC]Dragon ()
22:51:48MTim looking at a citizens advice bureaux website in the uk
22:52:02MTthey recently changed the law, and it doesnt say what it was before
22:52:47MTnow in the uk, you are entitled to repair/replace for the first 6 years, if the item should be expected otlast that long
22:52:52MTapparently
22:52:57MTi shall ring them tomorrow
22:52:59Zagorwow, that's a lot
22:54:05Plugh6 year warranty on everything?
22:54:29MTnot a warranty
22:55:12MTIf you bought your goods on or after 31 March 2003 and one of your rights under consumer law has been breached (see under heading Getting a full refund for goods ), you can ask the trader for a free repair or replacement. You can do this at any time within 6 years of buying the goods (within 5 years if you bought them in Scotland), as long as it is reasonable for them to have lasted this long. If you do not discover the problem within 6 years (5 years in
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23:23:05midknight2k3BYE
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23:25:37MThmm
23:25:43MTi dont know what did i
23:25:44MTt
23:25:56MTbut this reminds me of the time my atari just refused to power on
23:26:03MTi thought it was dead for the world
23:26:08MTso i took it all to pieces
23:26:12MTput it back together again
23:26:17MTand then it worked
23:26:20MT*shrug*
23:29:24Zagorso now everything is fine?
23:41:46 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m33.net81-67-42.noos.fr)
23:41:53BoD[]youhou
23:42:02Zagorhodwy
23:42:08Zagor^t
23:42:24BoD[]:)
23:46:42elinenbehello y'all
23:46:55elinenbein case anyone cares I'm moving... what a pain in the ass!
23:47:12BoD[]as always
23:47:21Zagormoving is always painful
23:47:30elinenbeespecially in NEw York
23:47:42elinenbeimagine 15% of a years rent just for the broker fee
23:47:45BoD[]you live in NY ?
23:47:45MTpretty much
23:47:51MTi cant rma something that works :/
23:47:57elinenbethen 1st month and last month, and a security deposit
23:48:17elinenbea place that is 2000$ a month is now 8500$ up front!
23:48:44ZagorMT: most people would be happy about that change :)
23:50:07elinenbeBoD[]: yeah, upper east side of manhattan
23:50:34BoD[]is life good in ny ?
23:50:48scott666compared to where?
23:51:02BoD[]to paris :))
23:51:03elinenbeBoD[]: yeah I like it.
23:51:28BoD[]elinenbe : what do you do for a living
23:51:42elinenbeBoD[]: computer consultant.
23:52:06elinenbeBoD[]: specifically I work for a firm that speciallizes in engineering consulting
23:52:22elinenbeBoD[]: they specailize in litigation
23:52:41BoD[]do they need java developers ?
23:52:52BoD[]that speak french :)
23:52:56elinenbeBoD[]: Im looking for a new job too.
23:53:03elinenbeBoD[]: where do you live?
23:53:10elinenbeIm sick of my job.
23:53:16mecrawBoD[]: you aren't Marc Fleury, are you?
23:53:16BoD[]i live in parsi
23:53:18BoD[]paris
23:53:24BoD[]mecraw : nop ;)
23:53:31mecrawBoD[]: phew
23:54:54elinenbeBoD[]: where in paris? I like like paris.
23:55:57BoD[]13th "arrondissement"
23:56:02BoD[]china town :)
23:56:14BoD[]=southeast
23:56:58elinenbeBoD[]: I am not familiar with that area, but I am with the 18th
23:57:06BoD[]how come you know paris

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