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#rockbox log for 2003-08-08

00:00:34BoD[]Santa Monica
00:00:45BoD[]and we also went to san fransisco and las vegas :)
00:01:35elinenbeah... I just got back from Las Vegas last week (bachelor party)
00:01:44elinenbeI love San Fransisco too.
00:01:55elinenbeI dont think much about Santa Monica.
00:02:19BoD[]venice beach
00:03:23elinenbethat is a fun area to visit.
00:03:33elinenbeI would not want to live there, it is too dirty
00:03:40elinenbeit is good for people watching though
00:04:36BoD[]héhé :) right
00:04:49BoD[]what's the weather like in NY ?
00:04:56elinenbeHUMID!
00:05:03elinenbeit is only about 80F but soo humid
00:05:07elinenbeand it has rained all week
00:05:15BoD[]rain !! but it's summer
00:13:02CtcpIgnored 5 channel CTCP requests in 1 hour and 27 minutes at the last flood
00:13:02*PsycoXul has sad news
00:13:14PsycoXulthey didn't have any more archos' at bestbuy
00:13:22PsycoXulso i ended up with a nomad jukebox zen :/
00:13:31BoD[]isn't it good ?
00:13:40PsycoXulit doesn't seem bad at all, but i'll still miss rockbox
00:13:50BoD[]is it 60g ?
00:13:52ZagorPsycoXul: were you in a hurry?
00:14:03PsycoXulno it's 20G
00:14:37BoD[]is the firmware good ? :) like .. to they have id3 database thingy like ipods
00:15:39PsycoXulZagor: not so much in a hurry, but somewhat impatient, not wanting to drive to another town's bestbuy, and honestly the FM rec's construction disappointed me anyway, and that's all they seem to have left at the stores around here (and the one closest to us don't have them at all anymore)
00:16:36PsycoXulBoD[]: it doesn't seem bad.. from what i read it's the same as the other nomad jukebox's... has a bunch of search and categorization features that i'll probably not put to much use :p
00:17:19BoD[]ok
00:19:05PsycoXulhardware wise it seems to have potential... it plays mp3, wma, and wav, so maybe it's potentially ogg-capable
00:19:46PsycoXulplus it has some fairly fancing processing, including 4-band EQ and several presets for it, environmental effects, and time-scaling
00:20:02Zagorhave you opened it yet? ;)
00:20:04BoD[]i like this
00:20:07PsycoXulnice blue EL backlight heh
00:20:12PsycoXulZagor: opened the unit? no
00:20:21PsycoXulthats one big thing i'm wondering about though
00:20:36PsycoXuli have no idea about how feasible HD upgrades are on it
00:20:59Zagorwell, older creative jukeboxes used a custom file system...
00:21:40PsycoXuloh yeah.. i think this uses the same.. i guess that does pose a problem
00:22:23PsycoXulanother weird thing is that it apparently has recording capabilities, but you need an optional add-on that's like a remote, mic, and FM tuner all in one to do it
00:22:37PsycoXuland it plugs into some weird little slot-shaped jack next to the headphone jack
00:23:13PsycoXulthat kinda bugs me, but i'm thinking it could be hax0red
00:23:50BoD[]why would the custom file system be a problem
00:23:54Zagoryeah, but probably not without examining the add-on first...
00:24:31PsycoXulwell the slot jack has 4 contacts
00:24:53PsycoXulsome part of it's probably pretty much just a line-in
00:25:03Zagortrue
00:26:25PsycoXulthe recording's accessed from a menu item
00:26:43PsycoXulyou select it and it says to plug the remote thing in for a second, and then goes to a basic recording screen
00:26:52PsycoXulwith meters and such
00:27:11PsycoXulso i could probably just try the contacts and watch those meters and find it
00:29:41Zagoryeah
00:30:05PsycoXulmy first impression is that HW-wise it's superiour to the archos... but the firmware does seem to have some of the characteristic silly limitations
00:30:37PsycoXullike the backlight timeout.. you can select 3, 5, 15, etc from a dropdown menu... heh
00:31:15BoD[]:)))
00:31:25BoD[]that's not for the power user
00:32:23PsycoXuloh yeah since they have a 20GB and a 60GB version, i'd assume it's made to where they can easily put either in durring the assembly... so that gives me hope of upgradability
00:32:28Zagorcontact creative and ask if they would like to publish their hardware specs to the rockbox project :)
00:32:35PsycoXulit's also got 16MB of ram
00:32:36PsycoXulhehe
00:33:16BoD[]do you know have an idea of the processors inside ?
00:33:19PsycoXulafter i familiarize myself with it's operation and am secure in it's non-defectiveness, i'll probably tear it open, see how hard it'll be to upgrade, take pics of all the boards, etc
00:33:49PsycoXulon the outside it's just got 7 little phillips screws
00:33:58PsycoXuland no warranty void stickers
00:33:59PsycoXulheh
00:34:28Zagorwee :)
00:37:42PsycoXulapparently it uses all the same file transfer stuffs as the older nomad jukebox's, which have already been all reverse engineered and implimented in a handfull of different projects
00:40:46PsycoXulthis might be cool and fun... but in the meantime, i must sleep
00:40:51PsycoXuli'm up waaay past my bedtime
00:41:04PsycoXuland tomorrow i'll be getting my sennheiser hd-280pro headphones
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00:42:58PsycoXul8 buttons plus a clickable jogwheel too, so it totals 11 inputs, 2 of which are repeatable at variable speed from one at a time to really fast heh
00:43:09PsycoXulanyway, night
00:44:47BoD[]see you :)
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01:44:56tracktheripperhi
01:45:01scott666hey
01:45:09tracktheripperhi Scott
01:46:03scott666www.xgamestation.com
01:47:35scott666how fast is the processor in the archos?
01:47:50tracktheripper12Mhz
01:48:10Zagoranyone here with a hitachi DK23DA drive?
01:48:16scott666me
01:48:47Zagordo you have the red led dead problem?
01:49:16tracktheripperyes
01:49:20tracktheripperhappened to me a few times
01:50:23Zagorscott666: someone should try this: http://www-3.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-43349.html
01:50:44Zagorit's a firmware update for those hitachi disks
01:50:52tracktheripperok
01:51:21scott666hows it work/
01:51:35Zagoryou need to remove the drive and put it in a computer
01:51:39Plughyou need a thinkpad
01:51:46ZagorPlugh: are you sure?
01:52:13Plughunless IBM has made changes in the past 10 years, I'm sure
01:52:15Zagorscott666: which firmware version do you have? (debug->disk info, right)
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01:52:23scott666The supported models are as follows:
01:52:23scott666- ThinkPad R31
01:52:24Plughbut I don't count on IBM to make changes
01:52:31Zagorit's still worth trying
01:52:57scott666zagor: hold on, ill check
01:53:11Zagorhere's the same thing from dell: http://support.dell.com/filelib/download.aspx?FileID=51876&ReleaseID=R43169
01:53:22scott66600j2a0a1
01:53:38Zagoror here for the html page: http://support.dell.com/FileLib/Format.aspx?ReleaseID=R43169
01:53:44Plughoh, that fixes the click?
01:53:46Plughcool
01:53:55PlughI'd love to disable that silly click
01:55:00scott666i have firmware 00J2A0A1
01:55:06Zagorok
01:55:30Zagorthe update is A0B6
01:55:39Zagorum, no
01:56:00Zagor"A0F3 for Hitachi 20GB DK23DA-20"
01:56:19Zagorlovely version numbering :)
01:56:47scott666its in hex
01:56:48scott666no wait
01:56:50scott666theres a J
01:57:02Plughwe should see if we can dump the patch directly to the drive through the Archos
01:57:04Plugh;)
01:57:19Zagorwhoa :)
01:57:20BoD[]would it be possible ?
01:57:29Zagoryes
01:57:29scott666yeah! lets make a plugin
01:57:47*Plugh instigates
01:57:49BoD[]how does a hard drive firmware patch work ?
01:58:16scott666you put it on a floppy and boot from it i think
01:58:25Zagorthere are ata commands to upload new firmware to the drive
01:58:34BoD[]oh ok :)
01:59:04BoD[]it would be fun to have this plugin
01:59:16Plughdrive patcher?
01:59:22Plughyeah, that'd rock
01:59:26BoD[]rockbox the firmware that FIXES your drive :))
01:59:56Plughthe problem with it being a plugin is the 32k limit
02:00
02:00:10BoD[]oh
02:00:13PlughI figure it's probably bigger than that
02:00:33scott666yeah
02:00:37scott666almost 700k
02:00:41Plughyou'd have to find a way to stream data from a file to the ATA bus
02:01:00BoD[]well the plugin needs a file
02:01:07BoD[]not that a big problem :)
02:01:13Plughor perhaps even load it into the device RAM
02:01:32Plughthen cut the connection to the drive and patch it
02:01:59scott666yeah you just have to make it make sure theres no music playing
02:07:13scott666is that the silence of people in serious thought?
02:07:26scott666or did everyone just lose interest
02:08:58BoD[]i lost interest
02:09:01BoD[];)
02:10:41scott666figures
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02:20:50Zagor(far beoyond) bed time
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02:26:02PlughI have about 8 chats going on at any one time. Didn't lose interest. Just got sucked into another window
02:26:48scott666heh
02:27:39Plughso, who thinks we can give people a hard drive patcher for their rockbox? :)
02:29:33scott666i do!
02:29:58Plughya know...
02:30:16Plughwe could do it as a replacement OS
02:30:48Plughwho says it has to be a plugin?
02:31:10scott666thats the easiest way
02:31:37Plugheasier to barebone a firmware image
02:32:14Plughcopy it to the drive, boot it to patch, then plug it into the USB and put the right firmware in
02:32:23Plughthat way it doesn't get used accidentally
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03:26:43Plughhardeep, you missed our fun conversation :)
03:27:22Plughthere's a patch from Hitachi for the hard drive clicking
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03:28:40diddystar5hardeep: would you add the calendar with memos v5 to cvs please?
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03:32:19PlughI was trying to come up with a way to patch in Hitachi's code without having users pull the drive out and put it in a computer
03:32:27Plughthe patch is around 770k
03:35:27diddystar5umm what is your patch for?
03:36:25scott666the harddrive
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03:36:42scott666and its 660k
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03:37:00scott666aol, figures
03:37:05scott666:-þ
03:37:25diddystar5hehe i'm not the one that wants aol my dad does
03:37:40scott666poor bastard
03:38:23diddystar5i know aol sucks donkey pooh
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03:42:04MTi must have magic fingers
03:42:21Plughooh! Put em on my back. I need a massage
03:42:24MT4 hrs solid playing and the earphone hasnt messed up yet
03:42:52MTnot bad for a first time solder job, using a soldering iron that looks like it last saw action in the early 80s
03:43:07Plughwoot
03:43:29PlughI haven't done much soldering since the late 80s
03:43:36MTi may give it a clean actually
03:43:42MTthe tip looked fairly knackered
03:43:59Plughbut I used to be able to solder a patch wire to a surface mounted chip without too much effort
03:44:05MTthe only bit that got hot was the side of the tip where i scraped some decade old solder off the side
03:44:14Plughhehe
03:44:24MTi found it really disconcerting when the solder gave off smoke too :)
03:44:42MTi kept having to stop, boot up the unit just to reassure myself i hadnt killed it
03:45:33Plugh:)
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03:45:43Plughdon't solder on a device with the batteries in
03:45:49Plughthat's asking for pain
03:45:57diddystar5_:) ouch
03:47:08MTwell
03:47:11MTnot much option
03:47:25MTthe batteries are fully wedged in until you free the solder points
03:47:37Plughahh
03:47:48MTthen they pretty much drop out :)
03:47:49PlughFMR?
03:47:59MTyep
03:48:08Plughyeah. silly design
03:48:57MTi actually prefer it to the recorder
03:49:21MTexcept for when you knock it/breathe on it, the battery clip flies off the end
03:55:19diddystar5_thanks for the calendar change hardeep!
03:56:31hardeepHuw Smith is the guy to thank
03:57:42diddystar5_huw isn't here :( but you commited it to cvs ;)
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05:29:38Plughfeeling schizophrenic scott?
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05:37:27midknight2k3ok
05:37:37midknight2k3who is it who said something about office space?
05:47:00midknight2k3plugh
05:47:14midknight2k3you can't make the disk firmware patch into a firmware itself
05:47:23midknight2k3archos supports only to 200kb and it's over 700
05:47:56>>>"seen" used by midknight2k3 (LaLaLaLaLa@ACAF81CE.ipt.aol.com) [snoop prevented]
05:50:38PsycoXuli found an article on upgrading the HD of nomad zen's http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1186827,00.asp
05:50:49midknight2k3cool
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05:51:36PsycoXulapparently their "filesystem" is more sortof just a method of storing the data and not so much a filesystem in the traditional sense
05:51:49PsycoXulone you upgrade the drive, you just re-install the firmware and start transferring your files
05:51:52PsycoXulheh
05:51:55midknight2k3lol
05:51:57PsycoXulno formatting or anything
05:52:02midknight2k3that's nice to kniw
05:52:06midknight2k3know
05:52:14midknight2k3i remember that first day i came in here
05:52:19midknight2k3"I have a question."
05:52:38midknight2k3<PsycoXul> If you have a question, ask it. Don't state it.
05:52:46PsycoXulhehe
05:53:04PsycoXulyou lucky
05:53:05midknight2k3at least i don't have to talk to you often :)
05:53:10midknight2k3lucky?
05:53:11midknight2k3i?
05:53:13midknight2k3how?
05:53:15PsycoXuli might've just told you to hang on to it, keep it in a bottle
05:53:20midknight2k3lol
05:53:33PsycoXulwith a warning of how if you don't keep an eye on it, you might wake up one day and find it gone with nothing left but an answer
05:54:09midknight2k3i would have cried and never looked at rockbox again
05:54:12PsycoXulhehe
05:54:16midknight2k3to afraid of the hard drive password lock thing
05:55:08PsycoXulheh a google search for the terms creative zen hack returns some pretty mixed results
05:55:18PsycoXulactualy hack OR hacks OR hacking
05:55:19PsycoXulheh
05:55:27midknight2k3so does "smashing a computer monitor" :\
05:56:04PsycoXulheh
05:56:19midknight2k3i did get a good video
05:56:24midknight2k3someone shooting it with a rifle
05:56:32midknight2k3and another blowtorching it
05:56:34PsycoXulheh
05:56:36midknight2k3but that's all really
05:58:20midknight2k3so who hears of this drive firmware upgrade?
05:58:27midknight2k3i blew it lol
05:58:33PsycoXulhmm
05:58:37PsycoXulheh
05:58:55midknight2k3the neighbors had this old computer by the trash and i wanted to sneak over at night and snag the hard drive
05:58:58midknight2k3the next day it's gone
05:59:09midknight2k3it would have been great to throw off the roof
05:59:42PsycoXulheh
06:00
06:00:00midknight2k3so uh this firmware thing
06:00:07midknight2k3it stops the hard drive clicks?
06:02:35PsycoXulheh the shutdown takes longer than the startup on this thing
06:02:44midknight2k3what thing?
06:02:49PsycoXulthe zen
06:02:57midknight2k3you got the ZEN?
06:03:07midknight2k3you're kidding me
06:03:09midknight2k3no more rockbox?
06:03:25PsycoXulunless i guess you leave it shutoff for more than 24 hours.. apparently it goes into a sorta standby mode for 24 hours, so it starts up instantly within 24 hours of being shutoff
06:03:30PsycoXulyeah :/
06:03:33PsycoXulthey didn't have anything else
06:03:42midknight2k3that's junk
06:03:49midknight2k3WHAT IF I HAVE TO?
06:03:52midknight2k3when mine dies?
06:03:55PsycoXulactualy so far it seems pretty good
06:03:56midknight2k3i shudder to think...
06:03:58midknight2k3but
06:04:01PsycoXulit needs a rockbox
06:04:01midknight2k3no more rockbox..
06:04:04midknight2k3yes
06:04:06midknight2k3i agree
06:04:08PsycoXulbut as far as hardware goes it seems better than the archos
06:04:15midknight2k3really
06:04:17midknight2k3tell me about it
06:04:38PsycoXulwell it supports mp3, wma, and wav, which gives me hope for the possibility of ogg
06:04:51midknight2k3you want ogg?
06:04:58PsycoXulindeed
06:05:04PsycoXulogg>*
06:05:14PsycoXulwell ogg isn't much in and of itself actualy
06:05:17PsycoXulbut vorbis>*
06:05:17PsycoXulheh
06:05:22midknight2k3lol
06:05:31midknight2k3there firmware update?
06:05:36midknight2k3i see none
06:05:40PsycoXulit also has some fancy processing capabilities
06:05:45PsycoXulyes, there is
06:05:46midknight2k3like what?
06:05:48midknight2k3where?
06:05:56midknight2k3processing: what, firmware:where?
06:05:58midknight2k3:)
06:06:18PsycoXulwell it has time-scaling, 4-band EQ, and environmental effects (simulate various halls and rooms and such)
06:06:28midknight2k3cool
06:06:33midknight2k3wheres the firmware thing
06:07:04PsycoXulwww.nomadworld.com
06:07:36midknight2k3does it record?
06:07:47PsycoXulwell
06:07:48PsycoXulit can
06:07:56PsycoXulbut you supposedly need an accessory to do it
06:08:09PsycoXulthat plugs into this little 4-contact slot-shaped jack next to the headphone jack
06:08:26midknight2k3junky
06:08:32midknight2k3whats the options?
06:08:33midknight2k3bitrate?
06:08:35PsycoXuli'm gonna try to find which contacts maybe act as the line-in
06:08:40midknight2k3and what else for settings
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06:09:11PsycoXulthats the other thing that seems kinda crappy is that what i saw for recording is just 16 or 22khz mono or stereo wav heh
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06:09:28midknight2k3what is that lol
06:09:32midknight2k3no bitrate?
06:09:36PsycoXulwav
06:09:44midknight2k3the ihp-100 can do 320kbps mp3 or wav recording
06:09:51PsycoXuli.e uncompressed
06:09:52midknight2k3i want that crack badly
06:10:04midknight2k3(crack meaning product)
06:10:10midknight2k3just do you don't get any ideas
06:10:10midknight2k3lol
06:10:13PsycoXuli'd be suprised if it's really incapable of encoding though, but you never know
06:10:14PsycoXulheh
06:10:37midknight2k3yeah
06:11:48midknight2k3man though i wish there was a rockbox for everything
06:12:01PsycoXulhehe
06:12:16midknight2k3such as the rio riot it BADLY needs it
06:20:19midknight2k3GRR
06:20:27midknight2k3earHurts i hope he comes soon
06:21:11Plughmmm can't wait till my order comes in
06:21:20PsycoXulme too
06:21:31midknight2k3what order
06:21:46Plugh500' cat5e, keystone wallplates, a/v cables to run my computer to the TV
06:21:48Plughand
06:21:59PsycoXulhehe
06:22:04midknight2k3really?
06:22:07Plugha 6' USB a to mini b that the ends light blue when it's powered
06:22:15midknight2k3lol
06:22:18midknight2k3WOW
06:22:19PsycoXulheh
06:22:21midknight2k3what a neat site
06:22:21Plughfor my rockbox
06:22:22midknight2k3http://lap.umd.edu/computer_rage/
06:22:46PsycoXulmine's just a pair of sennheiser hd-280pro headphones that'll be getting here tomorrow
06:22:49MTi need another 3 pcs
06:23:04MTone video server to stream video around the house
06:23:18MTone video encoder to record and encode tv
06:23:32PsycoXulmidknight2k3: see look at that
06:23:38PsycoXulmidknight2k3: microsoft is giving computers a bad name
06:23:45midknight2k3hey
06:23:48midknight2k3its not their fault
06:23:50MTone video player to display and output media
06:23:52PsycoXulyes it is
06:23:53midknight2k3linux can run on a toaster
06:23:56PsycoXulheh
06:24:09PsycoXulyeah... what about it?
06:24:13Plughso can Java
06:24:14midknight2k3er
06:24:23MTjava is designed to run on toasters
06:24:28Plughyeah I know
06:24:35Plughcrazy shit
06:24:49Plughcompany I work for is all java shop
06:24:59MTi love java
06:25:06midknight2k3SHUSHH
06:25:30midknight2k3wow
06:25:36midknight2k3wish i did nick that hard drive
06:25:37midknight2k3http://lap.umd.edu/computer_rage/broiled.html
06:25:40Plughwe have an app for processing genomic expression data
06:26:59midknight2k3http://lap.umd.edu/computer_rage/mousetrap.html
06:27:00midknight2k3lol
06:29:49PsycoXul-rw-r−−r−− 1 psyco users 905216 Mar 11 14:10 Zen(USB2.0)Upgrade_1_01_01.exe
06:30:03PsycoXulit's not a zip or a cab and it does nothing run in winex
06:30:03PsycoXulheh
06:30:25PsycoXulso it seems their firmware upgrade process is somewhat obfuscated
06:30:38midknight2k3OBfUSHIATED?
06:31:20PsycoXulyou know, made so that it's difficult to get to, see, and understand or whatever
06:31:44midknight2k3ub fu shi ated
06:33:18midknight2k3lol
06:33:30midknight2k3some guy went after his compaq with a baseball bat
06:33:45PsycoXulbut since it's usb protocol has been reverse engineered and implimented in a handful of projects, i'm thinking i can find some way to scrutinize the firmware heh
06:34:04midknight2k3scrutinize the firmware eh lol
06:34:05midknight2k3WAIT
06:34:06midknight2k3HALT
06:34:07DBUGEnqueued KICK midknight2k3
06:34:07midknight2k3STOP
06:34:09midknight2k3WAIT
06:34:10midknight2k3SILENCE
06:34:28midknight2k3if you have a bin file is it simple to write a replacement?
06:34:30Plughhuh?
06:34:46midknight2k3never mind
06:35:54PsycoXulno
06:35:56PsycoXulnot simple :p
06:36:08midknight2k3is that what rockbox did?
06:36:12PsycoXulyep
06:36:15PsycoXulit's enabling
06:36:18PsycoXulbut not simple
06:36:18PsycoXulheh
06:36:30midknight2k3so..
06:36:39midknight2k3rockbox started with a bin file?
06:36:43PsycoXulahh i remember the early days of rockbox
06:37:01PsycoXulthey figured out how to descramble the mod file
06:37:24PsycoXuland then disassembled it and worked their voodoo
06:37:42PsycoXuland wrote a re-scrambler
06:37:44midknight2k3dude! im busy here
06:37:50PsycoXuland before long there was a new firmware up to try
06:37:56midknight2k3"how to smash tv tubes"
06:37:56PsycoXula happy fun LED BLINKER
06:38:04midknight2k3http://www.zyra.org.uk/tvtube2.htm
06:38:12PsycoXuli broke a TV once
06:38:21midknight2k3really?
06:38:23midknight2k3was it fun?
06:38:26PsycoXuli was probably like 11
06:38:28PsycoXulor 12
06:38:34PsycoXuland i had a slingshot and some marbles
06:38:42MTi used to break stereos
06:38:48PsycoXuland dennis the menace was on
06:38:48MTlp players
06:38:56PsycoXulso i shot a marble with my slingshot at mr wilson
06:39:03MTas you could buy them for £0.50
06:39:08PsycoXulheh
06:39:12MTand old speakers
06:39:18MTgood magnets in speakers
06:39:31PsycoXulit broke the glass and it started like hissing and shit
06:39:35PsycoXulfreaked me the fuck out
06:39:44MTnever underestimate the appeal of magnets to an 8 yr old
06:39:54PsycoXulheh
06:39:58PsycoXulmagnets are good
06:40:23midknight2k3HAHAHAH psyco
06:40:26midknight2k3you shot the tv
06:40:45midknight2k3was your mom mad?
06:41:01PsycoXulof course
06:41:09midknight2k3you killed the tv
06:41:11midknight2k3HAHAHA
06:41:12PsycoXulthat was a nice big old workhorse tv
06:41:16PsycoXulwe had for years
06:41:17midknight2k3hahahahaha
06:41:22midknight2k3and you killed it
06:41:25midknight2k3what happened?
06:41:27PsycoXulyeah
06:41:29midknight2k3did it go BZZT?
06:41:35midknight2k3it was on and p;ugged in right?
06:41:42midknight2k3that must be freaky
06:41:43PsycoXulyeah it was
06:41:58midknight2k3i mean, off and stuff sure but plugged in?
06:42:12PsycoXulhuh?
06:42:15PsycoXulit was on heh
06:42:21midknight2k3yeah
06:42:27midknight2k3if it was off, i'd ask for a hammer
06:43:54midknight2k3did your mom ground you?
06:44:02PsycoXulheh
06:44:15PsycoXulground me hmm i don't think so
06:44:24PsycoXuli forget
06:44:29PsycoXuli was probably put on some sorta restrictions
06:44:31midknight2k3was it an expensive tv?
06:44:41midknight2k3did it make a hole in the tv?
06:44:41PsycoXulbut my parents were never the grounding type heh
06:45:03PsycoXulit made a broken indentation in the glass sorta and cracks around it
06:45:16midknight2k3did you run crying?
06:45:18PsycoXuland no i don't think it was really expensive.. like i said, it was old
06:45:36midknight2k3well your kid days must have been awhile ago when color didn't exist?
06:45:59PsycoXulum, no
06:46:00PsycoXuli'm only 22
06:46:01PsycoXulheh
06:46:09midknight2k3let's see
06:46:16midknight2k3so that was about ten years ago...
06:46:21midknight2k3i guess not
06:46:24midknight2k3hahaha
06:46:28midknight2k3did you run crying?
06:46:29PsycoXulyeah we're still talking 1990's here heh
06:46:42PsycoXulrun where?
06:46:50PsycoXuli forget if i cried... i was really freaked out
06:46:53midknight2k3to your mom i guess
06:46:57midknight2k3hahaha
06:47:13PsycoXuli called my dad and was like uh i shot a marble at the tv and broke it and it's hissing like it's leaking gas or something what do i do
06:47:17PsycoXuli was home alone at the time
06:47:18PsycoXulheh
06:47:32midknight2k3HAHAHAHA
06:47:35midknight2k3did he yell?
06:47:38PsycoXulno
06:47:55midknight2k3did it just go blank or did it like shoot electricity from inside?
06:47:58PsycoXulmy parents are very cool, laid back people
06:48:00PsycoXulit just went blank
06:48:09midknight2k3lol
06:48:13midknight2k3did your throw it away?
06:48:35PsycoXulyeah i guess so
06:48:44midknight2k3did you smash it some more?
06:48:49PsycoXulno
06:48:56midknight2k3take some advice
06:48:57midknight2k3http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/tv.tossing.mov
06:49:02PsycoXulheh
06:49:04midknight2k3it's short and to the point
06:58:12PsycoXulheh
06:59:01midknight2k3i suppose it's not something "normal people" will ever do in their life
06:59:17PsycoXulyeah well
06:59:23PsycoXulneither is living a life to be proud of
06:59:26midknight2k3you're normal?
06:59:29midknight2k3fat chance
06:59:32midknight2k3lol
06:59:33PsycoXulheh
06:59:38PsycoXulcertainly not
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07:13:36midknight2k3lol
07:14:19midknight2k3bye
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09:29:45Bagderhey
09:29:48Zagorhi
09:32:36Zagori hate dell's web site
09:33:54Zagoryou can't even perform a search without first specifying if you're a home, small or big business user.
09:34:03Bagderhehe
09:36:30dwihnoThat's gay
09:36:37dwihnoBut their portables are so sweet!
09:36:52dwihno(unless you have a semi-old unit with no internal usb2 *sigh*)
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10:07:30tracktheripperhe said he was gonna fix "redzone for peak meter"
10:40:28Zagorseems a lot of rld'ers have the hitachi disk. i wonder if that's because all recent units use hitachi disks or if the hitachi disks are more vulnerable...
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10:41:10Bagderyes, quite hard to tell
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10:41:15*dwihno has a hitachi
10:41:25dwihnoAlthough I never had a RLD in months!
10:41:46dwihnoI've had a couple of buffer clicks, causing a second or two of silence and then the music resumed.
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11:18:59blastman007hi someone here
11:20:11Bagderyes
11:20:38blastman007hi
11:21:46blastman007i have a archos jukebox recorder with 20gb but i want more 40 or 60 what kind of harddrice is the right? can look for example on ebay ?
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11:24:29blastman007http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3426197180&category=42184
11:24:34blastman007coud i use this ?
11:25:44Bagderyes
11:26:21blastman007and what is with them for laptops ? aren they the same ?
11:26:43Bagderyes
11:26:54Bagderbut laptops can have thicker ones too
11:27:05PsycoXulmmm 80GB
11:27:35blastman007in germany ther are 160gb
11:28:04dwihnoNot laptop drives, blast.
11:28:09PsycoXulfor the 9.5mm?
11:28:18blastman0072.5"
11:28:24Bagderblastman007: show us a URL
11:28:30Bagderblastman007: right, but not 9.5mm
11:28:33blastman00710*7*1
11:28:54blastman007what is 9.5 ?
11:29:01Bagder9.5mm
11:29:02PsycoXulthickness
11:29:02Bagderheight
11:29:17blastman007can show me one please
11:29:27PsycoXulthat one on ebay
11:29:33PsycoXul 80.011 GB
11:29:35PsycoXulZ-Height 9.5 mm
11:29:45blastman007give me a link please
11:29:54PsycoXulyou gave us the link
11:30:14blastman007a mom
11:30:45blastman007not more than 9.5mm ?
11:31:29Bagdernot if you want it to fit in your archos
11:33:29blastman007http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2746556936&category=45731
11:33:32blastman007this is one
11:34:30Bagder"9.5mm high"
11:34:45blastman007and what is with rpm and voltage ?
11:35:03Bagderwhat do you mean?
11:35:39blastman007there are some with 5200 rpm and others 4200rpm
11:36:00Bagderso, get the one using the least power
11:36:14Bagderhigher rpm tends to mean more power
11:36:15blastman007which ?
11:36:20blastman007yes
11:39:06blastman007wow there is one witz 7200rpm but i dont think my player needs this
11:39:17Hesdefinetely not
11:39:24MTalso, some manufacturors use lower power usage than others
11:39:29MTeven with same rpm
11:39:32Bagderyes
11:41:23blastman007i have a hitachi but can is use a fujitsu ?
11:42:03Bagderyou can use any brand
11:42:09Bagderif its the right size
11:42:24blastman007ok
11:42:25Bagderbut you WANT the one with the least power consumption
11:42:30BagderI guess
11:43:27blastman007what is consumption ?
11:43:37Bagderhow much power the disk needs
11:43:45Bagderuses
11:43:56blastman007no i want bigger size
11:43:56Bagderhow fast it'll drain your batteries
11:44:09Bagderyes
11:44:16Bagderbut they will differ
11:44:40blastman007i know that 7200rpm would need more power (logical)
11:44:52blastman007what is differ ?
11:45:41blastman007what means differ ?
11:45:42Bagderthe disks will use different amounts of power
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11:45:51Bagderyou need to read the spec sheets
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11:46:29blastman007and what is the right usage ?
11:46:45Bagdersigh
11:46:47Bagdersigh
11:46:47Bagdersigh
11:46:51Bagderthe lowest possible
11:46:54BagderREADDAAAAAAD
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11:47:07blastman007yes look at that waht to read
11:47:09DBUGEnqueued KICK martsz
11:47:09martsz2hi, I'm a nwby in need of some help...
11:47:15blastman007http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2745478148&category=45731
11:47:34blastman007there are no details
11:49:07Bagderthey are not the ones who make the disk you know
11:49:09Bagderread up
11:49:12Bagderfind the details
11:49:23Bagderthat's what we do
11:49:30Bagdermartsz: try us!
11:50:16martszhelp!!! My jukebox 6000 did'nt load any .mod!!!!
11:50:44martszit works well for monts....
11:50:45blastman007can i buy one in ebay.com ?
11:51:03Bagderblastman007: I don't know what you can
11:51:39martszany idea???
11:51:43blastman007me 2
11:51:43blastman007do they send it to germany ?
11:52:07Bagdermartsz: so what happens? it starts with the archos firmware?
11:53:35martszyes...the old version...I reload the rockbox 2.0...I can see it if i use jukebos as a hard drive...but it not load as a mod..
11:53:46blastman007do you know what 200$ are in € ?
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11:54:25Bagdermartsz: then I guess the file is damaged or something
11:54:33Schnueffwhat a day
11:54:46blastman007can you send me 200$ please :-)
11:55:25blastman007i found the right for 239€ with 80gb
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11:58:21blastman007i musst win some money
11:58:27martszBadger, do you have any idea abou what happens?
11:58:34BagderI guess the file is damaged or something
11:58:45Bagdertried reinstalling?
11:59:01blastman007oooh till christmas is soooo long :-(
11:59:26martszi re download it and re install it...
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12:00:05martszbut allways start with the original firmware...
12:01:15blastman007i had this problem to when i was starting my recorder with the player software
12:01:53martszhow you solved it?
12:02:16blastman007i installed the recorder software :-)
12:03:26martszok I'm double check...and I use the correct file...
12:03:41martsztxs anyway....
12:03:49blastman007hmm
12:04:33blastman007ohh my god i found one with 80gb for less than 200€
12:04:47blastman007oh no
12:04:57blastman007what means 80gn/60gb ?
12:05:32blastman007what is Gn ?
12:06:27blastman007http://www.preisvergleich.co.at/Preisvergleich/Festplatte/315792/Hitachi/80GB_IC25N080ATMR04.html
12:06:32blastman007look at the first one
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19:08:06neofighthallo ?
19:08:18Plughhi
19:08:48neofightdo you know if i buy an new harddisk is the recording option then still working ?
19:09:32Plugha new hard drive only changes how much you can store. It doesn't affect the function
19:09:55neofightok maybe i buy me an bigger one
19:10:19PlughI need to do that myself. I found a pretty good price on a 30gig
19:10:39neofighthow much ?
19:10:42PlughI really want an 80gig, but it's too expensive
19:10:52Plughthe 30gig was about $109US
19:10:53neofighti know
19:11:04Plugh80 was $299
19:11:17neofightmaybe i wish me one for christmas
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19:11:46neofightjust today i opend my archos and looked inside <<very nice ;-)>>
19:11:49MT60gb are a decent price
19:12:37MTFUJ 60GB 12MS 2.5
19:12:39MT(ref: FUJSTO153, Availability: Good) £114.30
19:12:40MT(£134.30 inc vat)
19:12:59MTthats about $200
19:13:05neofightwith 60gb ?
19:13:17MTyes
19:13:22MTbut i wouldnt get that one
19:13:37neofightwait a moment
19:13:39MTFujitsu MHS2060AT 60GB 2.5" 4200rpm Notebook HDD <<−− uses less power
19:14:07MTaltho i will probably end up with a hitachi
19:14:10MTmuch cheaper
19:14:16Plughno doubt
19:14:40Plughdid you see our little discussion about the Hitachi firmware upgrade?
19:14:42neofighthttp://www.directron.com/ibm08k0633.html
19:14:51neofightlook at this waht is "Gn" ?
19:14:55Plughthere's a patch to make it stop clicking
19:15:09neofightwhere ?
19:15:23neofightit really annois me when i record from mic
19:15:23Plughdell and IBM sites
19:15:26MTyes
19:15:40MTaltho, we only have dell and ibm updates right?
19:15:46PlughI wanna make an archos patcher
19:15:48neofightcan you give me an link ?`
19:16:05MTwww.site.com/apage.html
19:16:07neofightwer cant use it ?
19:16:14MTdo you want a more specific link? ;p
19:16:21Plughgn is just their model number
19:16:21neofightyes `?
19:16:28neofightah ok
19:16:51Plughyou'd have to put the drive in an IBM or Dell laptop to patch it right now
19:17:23neofighthow does it work ?
19:17:24PlughI wanna make a Rockbox plugin or special firmware to do the patch, so we don't have to remove the drive
19:19:06neofightwhat means "remove the drive" ?
19:20:07Plughtaking it out of the case
19:20:20neofighti did that just today
19:20:37neofightits very easy if you have some photos
19:21:06Plughmine is still under warranty
19:21:35neofighti bough mine on ebay i dont think i could use warranty because i live in germany
19:22:17MThmm
19:22:26MTits not so easy on the fm :)
19:22:39neofighti can use a adapter to connect an 2.5" with 3.5"
19:22:53neofightso i can put it in the normal computer
19:23:02neofighthttp://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2746315961&category=45731
19:23:05neofightwith this tool
19:23:24neofightso can i do this with the patch ?
19:23:40MTto get the hd out of the fm recorder, you have to desolder 7 points
19:24:16neofightbut its possible and much worth ;-)
19:24:19Plughthat will work Neo
19:24:24MTyep
19:24:35neofightso tell me what is musst do
19:25:00neofighti connect it with the computer as a normal harddrive, right ?
19:25:13Plughyou need to buy the drive, format it FAT32 in a Windows or Linux machine, and put it in your archos
19:25:50neofightwhich drive ?
19:25:52PlughLinux may be better, because you can't partition that big a drive as FAT32 under Windows
19:26:02Plughany 2.5" hard drive
19:26:16neofightcant i use my archos drive?
19:26:39Plughwhat are you trying to do?
19:27:06neofighti want this patch you said that the disk is not clicking
19:27:11Plughoh
19:27:39Plughyou need to take the drive out, put it in a Dell or IBM laptop, download their patch, and run it
19:28:10neofightcas but instead i use a laptop i could connect it with this adapter in my computer
19:28:29Plughthe Dell patch only runs on Dell laptops
19:28:32Plughand same for IBM
19:28:34neofighti have no laptop
19:28:44neofight.-(
19:28:52Plughthen you won't be able to run that patch yet
19:29:24neofightand why only in laptops ?
19:29:39Plughbecause the patch only works on the computer it's made for
19:30:08neofightbut i can then put it back in my player ?
19:30:21Plughyes
19:30:34neofightand it doesen make clicks
19:30:50Plughthat's what they say
19:30:55PlughI haven't done it yet
19:30:58neofightgive me please an link where i can read some
19:31:10Plughlooking
19:32:00neofighti could buy an 80gb for 269 € but i dont have the money :-(
19:32:28PlughI do, but I might not be able to pay my phone bill if I do
19:33:22Plughhttp://www.hgst.com/hdd/support/download.htm
19:33:29Plughthe feature tool might work
19:35:02neofightwhere is it ?
19:35:10neofightdrive fitness test ?
19:35:13Plugh2/3 of the way down the page
19:35:17Plughfeature tool
19:35:27neofightmom
19:37:04neofightbut it affects the performance, or?
19:37:17Plughhttp://support.dell.com/filelib/download.aspx?FileID=51876&ReleaseID=R43169
19:37:25Plughthat's the Dell patch
19:38:10Plughhttp://www-3.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-43349.html
19:38:15Plughthat's the IBM patch
19:38:18neofightit links not directly to the page
19:38:34Plughyou might be able to find a German equivalent page
19:39:24neofightwhat was the firts link ? for hitachi ?
19:41:09Plughthat wasn't a firmware upgrade
19:41:18neofightwhat means 48-bit, is it only for the new disks ?
19:41:19Plughbut if you want a quieter drive, you can run it
19:41:36PlughI really don't know. I'm just passing along info :)
19:42:51neofightwould you spend me 300$ , yes ?
19:43:32neofighthttp://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2746556936&category=45731
19:43:36neofightthe one i dream of
19:44:09Plughyep. that's the one
19:44:22neofightand this patch cant i run it with usb ?
19:44:51Plughnot yet. We just found out about the patch yesterday. We're going to see if we can do it with USB somehow
19:45:38neofightwho "we" are you in the rockbox teams ?
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19:46:04Plughthe people who chat on this channel every day :)
19:46:13scott666what about em?
19:46:21PlughI don't really code. I just encourage people to do stuff
19:46:27neofighthi scott you know me
19:46:33Plughwe're discussing the click patch
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19:46:37scott666i do?
19:46:39 Nick blastman997 is now known as blastman007 (neofight@p508402EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
19:46:43blastman007yes
19:46:43Plughneo really wants it
19:46:57scott666i think itd be awesome
19:47:05blastman007http://www.laptopshop.co.uk/brouchers/IC25N080AT-MR-04.pdf
19:47:32blastman007scott would you buy it for me ?
19:48:11scott666hmmmm
19:48:12scott666no
19:48:27blastman007:-((((((
19:48:37blastman007:-|
19:48:39blastman007:-)
19:48:44blastman007;-) joke
19:49:20scott666best feature request:
19:49:20scott666Force playback of WMA files by renaming the extension to MP3
19:49:40blastman007http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3340336816&category=28930
19:49:43blastman007my dream
19:50:17blastman007i want to kiss it :-)
19:50:22scott666no rockbox though
19:50:44blastman007hmm
19:51:37PlughI've held one
19:51:42Plughbut it was still in the box
19:51:47scott666awww
19:52:02blastman007hmmm a dream
19:52:40blastman007by the way, what is the fastest consumer pc in the usa ?
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19:52:47scott666zagor sounded vaugely interesting in reverse engineering a nomad zen though
19:52:48scott666lol
19:52:57scott666probably the mac G5
19:53:05scott666theres just no programs for it
19:53:05scott666lol
19:53:07blastman007how fast
19:53:13MTfast
19:53:19blastman007ghz ?
19:53:25scott666dual 2.4ghz 64bit procesors
19:53:38blastman0070 4.8 ?
19:53:43blastman007= 4.8 ?
19:53:54MTno
19:54:07blastman007but you said dual
19:54:17scott666there are 2 of them
19:54:31blastman007what two ?
19:54:44MTif you have two cars, both have a top speed of 150km/h, strapping them together doesnt make it for 300km/h
19:54:53MTand
19:54:58blastman007hmm
19:55:04MTthe most the G5 goes to is 2GHz
19:55:05scott666good analagy
19:55:15blastman007but when the firts car pushes the other ;-)
19:55:35blastman007but that isen't the fastet in the usa ?
19:56:14scott666no, it is
19:56:15MTyou think Hz matters?
19:56:31scott666theyre faster cause theyre 64bit
19:56:37Plughmy boss just ordered me a 3.0GHz machine for my Windows box
19:56:37MTumm
19:56:39scott666newer technology
19:56:48MTnot really scott
19:56:49blastman007i have a 2.53ghz
19:56:52Plugh3.06 actually
19:57:02blastman007look at this wait a sec
19:57:04scott666i heard they were way ahead in benchmarks
19:57:20blastman007http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2745935209&category=30294&rd=1
19:57:33scott666the 3.06s sucked, 533 FSB instead of 800
19:57:37MTthey are faster because they have a hideously huge fsb, and a massive cache and can do massively more instructions per clock
19:57:50blastman007−−afk 3min
19:58:46PlughI don't care if it sucks or not. It's gotta be better than my 500MHz
19:59:24blastman007<<back
19:59:26scott666heh
19:59:29scott666yeah
19:59:34scott666i just ordered a new computer too
19:59:50scott666going from a 600mhz p3 to an athlon xp 30000+
19:59:56scott666*3000
19:59:57blastman007i read a lot of articels on www.giga.de
19:59:57scott666heh
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20:00:04MTheh
20:00:09blastman007but amd sucks
20:00:14MTwhen you go to buy a g5 on apples site
20:00:21MTone of the configuration options
20:00:27MTis to select which ipod you want
20:00:35scott666amd kicks ass, wtf are you talking about?
20:01:07MTSubtotal Please note that your subtotal does not include sales tax or rebates. $10,763.95
20:01:11MTbit pricey
20:01:15blastman007i first bought me an amd 2400+ and it sucked really
20:01:25scott666copmpared to what?
20:01:30blastman007then i bought me this p4 with 2.53 and its much better
20:01:44blastman007in GTA the graphiv was very bad
20:01:58scott666that has nothing to do with the processor
20:02:06scott666or little anyway
20:02:23blastman007when i was burning a cd i couldn't do anythin else becaue it was too slow
20:02:37scott666how much ram did you have?
20:02:53blastman007512mb
20:03:01blastman007it was exactly same pc but amd
20:03:08Plughmy 1800+ is just fine
20:03:12Plughwith burning too
20:04:05MTblastman007: I have an amd athlon 1GHz, and i play CS whilst burning discs ..
20:04:10blastman007now i have 1gig ram and no problems first i thought that 512 is enough but i had the chance to buy another 512 for 40€ and i did it
20:04:39blastman007i dont know it was an 2400+ and i didnt work
20:04:41blastman007ohoo
20:04:57blastman007bur you dont burn cd with 48 x ?
20:05:21scott666bur??
20:05:28blastman007but
20:05:35scott666ahh
20:06:02Plughnope
20:06:08PlughI don't have a 48x burner
20:06:20Plughjust 8x
20:06:41blastman007yes thats because yours is not lagging when burning a cd because it mustns read so much data
20:07:22blastman007and burn a cd with 48x with an AMD 2400+ and play Cs wont work , with a p4 2.53ghz it works :-)
20:08:23scott666id be interested to see if it worked with a p4 2.4
20:08:24Plughas long as I can play Everquest, I don't care what else the computer does ;)
20:08:45blastman007sure those 100mhz
20:08:59scott666could make the difference
20:09:21scott666probably not but itd still be interesting to see
20:09:47blastman007and when i think about 3d mark muahaha with the amd i got 7900 wiht my p4 now i have 12000
20:10:28blastman007sometimes over 13000 i can send you an screenshot
20:10:34scott666did you have enough cooling though?
20:11:08blastman007i actually have 5 fans 2 on my gForce
20:11:21Plughhaha! Arnold Schwarzenegger is the Running Man in California now ;)
20:13:45PlughI dunno who I want more to be my governer. The former body builder who was doping steroids and smoking pot in front of TV cameras or Larry Flynt, the editor in chief of Hustler magazine...
20:14:45scott666and what about gary coleman??
20:15:19Plughis he running?
20:15:23scott666yup]
20:15:26Plughomg
20:15:42PlughI think he's gonna get shorted on the vote
20:15:51scott666ahahhahaha
20:16:45Plughthis is California. Name recognition will win
20:16:58PlughArnold probably has the most
20:17:12Plughissues are right out the window now
20:17:43scott666yeah
20:24:29blastman007omg
20:24:33blastman007look at this
20:24:40blastman007http://gamesfiles.giga.de/redirect/gelp_relatedlink.php?rellink=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Emuropaketti%2Ecom%2Fartikkelit%2Fcpu%2Fnorthwood2200%2Fln2%2Findex%2Ephtml
20:25:33blastman007that hurts in my eyes
20:26:48Plughnice
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20:27:22blastman007the mainboard :-=)
20:27:30Plughhttp://tinyurl.com/jfss
20:27:39Plughthat's your link, only smaller
20:27:57blastman007yes i found it on giga
20:36:56blastman007bye
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21:10:57Guesthello - i have a question about rockbox. I just flashed my recorder, and it works great, but i want to add the most recent daily build. on the instructions, it says to descramble the ajbrec.ajz file by "descramble ajbrec.ajz rockbox.bin". How do I do this?
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21:11:33diddystar5do you know how to use a command prompt?
21:11:47Guestyes
21:12:46Guestwhat should i type in?
21:13:20diddystar5ok, what download http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/flash_rec.zip
21:13:47diddystar5is has the tool "descramble"
21:13:56Guestok
21:15:00diddystar5somewhere in it, there is descramble, i think it is in tools/win32
21:15:10Guestyeah, thats it
21:16:58diddystar5in the command prompt type "cd C:/(wherever yousaved it)"
21:17:11diddystar5then use the descramble comand
21:20:24Guestwait - i just loked at the daily build screen again - and it has a ucl file i can download - is this the final output file from the orocess listed on the "flashing rockbox' page?
21:20:26diddystar5btw: you don't need to descramble and ucl it any more all you need is the ucl file on the daily build page http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml
21:20:36Guestthen i would just haveto download the ucl file?
21:20:51diddystar5yes and save it to the root of you jukebox
21:20:55Guestlol - great minds think alike
21:21:37diddystar5and then just rin the rockbox_flash plugin and your set :)
21:21:42diddystar5*run
21:21:58Guestok - thanks alot for all your help
21:22:02hardeepnah, just PLAY the ucl file
21:22:07hardeepit can be anywhere
21:22:11diddystar5yer welcome!
21:22:21hardeepmake sure the rockbox_flash plugin is in /.rockbox/rocks
21:22:44Guestok , cool
21:22:46hardeepand you're running the latest daily build
21:22:46Guestthanks
21:22:52scott666actually if its his fisrt time running it he would have to do the plugin
21:22:56scott666or rolo
21:23:11Guestcome again?
21:23:28Guesti already flashed my recorder if that is what u mean
21:23:28scott666cause hed have the old version that doesnt have the play ucl file code
21:23:39scott666yeah but have you updated the second image?
21:24:09Guestum -i dont think so - i just folowed the instructions onthe web page for flashing rockbox
21:25:00Guestshould i use the rockbox_flash.rock file?
21:25:11Guestor should i just play the ucl file?
21:25:22diddystar5for your first flash yes
21:25:30diddystar5*run rockbox_flash
21:25:36Guestoh, ok
21:25:39diddystar5then after that you can "play" it
21:26:19Guestok - and this willl work for all the daily builds after 2003-07-10 ?
21:26:30Guestjust playing the ucl i mean
21:27:27diddystar507-10 i'm not sure... just use the lastest daily builds
21:27:47Guestok
21:28:14Guestthanks again everybody
21:28:23Guesti'll go try it out
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21:29:22scott666shouldve just told him to download the new ajbrec and rolo and then play the ucl
21:29:25scott666ahh well
21:31:54Plughone of these days I'll get around to flashing
21:32:13Plughbut that'll be after I stabilize
21:32:36scott666youre unstable?
21:33:14diddystar5hehe
21:33:36diddystar5bye
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21:33:55Plughactually, come to think of it...
21:33:59Plughno, I'm not stable
21:36:12Plugh*grr* fucking credit card bastards...
21:37:20Plughthey called me up and said my payment was past due, even though I mailed it 3 weeks ago. So they convince me to go ahead and make another payment over the phone. So I check my statement and they charged me $8 to do that
21:37:36Plughguess I gotta call 'em up and get the charge wiped off
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21:38:46GuestHi, im back - it worked great - thanks agin to everybody who helped
21:40:14Guesti have one questuion though - i wanted to know if it was a bug or something, but when the charger is plugged in, and i am playing music, or whatever, when i hold the off button as if to turn it off - it goes into the charger mode, except that the lcd is on, and in about 3 second intervals flashes
21:40:32Guestit only happend when i hold the off button down
21:42:17Guestdoes anybody know if this is a bug, or is it something to do with my machine?
21:49:45Guestanybody here?
21:53:13Plughslightly
21:53:40Guestlol - thats good enough for me
21:53:52Guestcan u answer my question?
21:53:54Plughholding the off button is a different state
21:54:02Plughit's a hardware powerdown
21:54:15Guestwhat do u mean?
21:54:49Plughif you hold the button for 5 sec, it will shut the player off and do a reset, regardless of how locked up it is
21:55:15Guestoh, ok - thats good
21:56:27Guestok, well thanks - i think i wil go enjoy my "new" jukebox now!
21:56:28Guestcya
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22:25:10Plughafternoon track
22:28:47tracktheripperhey Plug
22:28:47tracktheripper:)
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22:29:37midknight2k3hey
22:29:39midknight2k3hi trackie
22:29:41midknight2k3hi scott
22:29:44midknight2k3hi psyco
22:29:46midknight2k3uh
22:29:54midknight2k3hi everyoneelse
22:30:32tracktheripper:D
22:30:34tracktheripperbrb
22:30:41tracktheripperhey midknighty
22:30:44tracktheripperdid the red zone?
22:31:32midknight2k3nah
22:31:36midknight2k3earhurts never showed up :(
22:32:07tracktheripper:((
22:32:22midknight2k3yeah i know
22:32:30midknight2k3but i plan on making it good
22:32:38midknight2k3so if you use dbfs it works too
22:33:12tracktheripper:((
22:33:21midknight2k3sorry
22:33:26midknight2k3if he were here i'd do it now
22:34:04midknight2k3http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=785394&group_id=44306&atid=439120
22:34:05midknight2k3neat
22:34:44scott666hey mk
22:34:53midknight2k3hey scott
22:39:50tracktheripperi was really looking foward to the red zone
22:39:57midknight2k3sorry man
22:39:59midknight2k3me too
22:42:05tracktheripper:((
22:42:18midknight2k3SORRY! lol
22:42:23tracktherippermidknight a virgin atlantic girl left her skirt behind
22:43:01scott666ummm
22:43:12midknight2k3wh... ok
22:44:33scott666let the panty sniffing begin?
22:44:55midknight2k3lol
22:47:15Plugh*SNIFF*
22:47:19Plugh*SNORT*
22:47:23Plughahhhhhh
22:47:47midknight2k3ick
22:48:23scott666lol
22:48:34midknight2k3so track
22:48:43midknight2k3what build of rockbox are you running?
22:50:32Plughthere's build numbers?
22:50:37Plugh:)
22:51:04midknight2k3yes
22:51:07midknight2k3such as
22:51:16midknight2k3CVS-030808
22:51:33scott666thats what im using
22:51:36tracktheripperjust an old version
22:51:39tracktheripperthat suits me fine
22:51:49midknight2k3like?
22:52:05tracktheripperdunno
22:52:14midknight2k3get a new one
22:52:19midknight2k3it is worth it
22:52:39PlughI need to update
22:52:52Plughkept forgetting my USB cbl all week
22:52:58Plughso never got the new one in
22:53:05tracktheripperi will only update when i get my reshuffle and redzone
22:53:06tracktheripper:-)
22:53:34Plughredzone? On the peak level indicator?
22:54:03tracktheripperredzone for peak meter
22:54:07tracktherippersee the pic for details
22:54:29midknight2k3he knows of no pic
22:54:32midknight2k3i will link
22:54:36tracktheripperok
22:54:45midknight2k3but yes plugh
22:54:53midknight2k3i am coding it with help of earhurts
22:54:55midknight2k3what a guy
22:55:36midknight2k3http://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=44306&atid=439121&file_id=52220&aid=749225
22:56:30midknight2k3CRAPPY PICTURE c/o TRACKTHERIPPER
22:56:33midknight2k3j/k
22:56:40midknight2k3it's very good for something done in... "Paint"
22:57:02Plughoh, slick!
22:57:06PlughI like that
22:57:08midknight2k3really?
22:57:10midknight2k3yeah
22:57:11midknight2k3i do it
22:57:12Plughyeah
22:57:15midknight2k3it's tracks idea
22:57:20midknight2k3i like it too
22:57:29midknight2k3good idea track
22:57:38Plughlets you SEE where that sweet spot is
22:57:46midknight2k3i wanted a multifunction RED LED but Zagor got a bit frustrated :\
22:58:56Plughthat'd be neat
22:59:08tracktheripperwhat u think plug?
22:59:08midknight2k3did you see him?
22:59:14midknight2k3Plugh
22:59:16midknight2k3he likes it
22:59:18midknight2k3not plug
22:59:24tracktheripperPlug what do u think of the Red Zone?
22:59:27midknight2k3makes him sound like "butt plug" ;)
22:59:32midknight2k3STOP
22:59:34midknight2k3it's Plugh
22:59:44Plughbuttplugh
22:59:52Plugh13:57 < Plugh> oh, slick!
22:59:53Plugh13:57 < Plugh> I like that
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23:00:04scott666lol
23:00:10Plughthat's what I thought of the red zone 3 mins ago
23:00:14PlughI still like it
23:00:15Plugh;)
23:00:18tracktheripperok Plugh what do u think of my Red Zone for Peak Meter picture?
23:00:19midknight2k3lol
23:00:24midknight2k3\it's good
23:00:26midknight2k3for paint
23:00:59tracktheripperwould u find it useful for recording as its easier to see how far u can push recording levels before clipping?
23:01:18midknight2k3yes
23:01:20midknight2k3track
23:01:20Plughhaha! My step-daughter just IM's me: What's 30% of 756? <Me> 226.8 <Her> shit
23:01:35Plughtrack: totally
23:01:41midknight2k3http://rockbox.haxx.se/irc/rockbox-20030805.txt
23:01:46tracktheripperit should be possible as all you are doing is inverting tle last few pixels
23:01:46midknight2k3it's very close to the bottom
23:01:57midknight2k3starts with <mk2k3> Zagor: how about this idea?
23:02:02midknight2k3TRACK
23:02:05midknight2k3WE KNOW
23:02:05midknight2k3lol
23:02:09midknight2k3it is possible
23:02:12midknight2k3it will be done
23:02:13midknight2k3soon
23:02:19midknight2k3and a patch will be put up
23:02:19tracktherippercool :-)
23:02:22midknight2k3you have to compile it\
23:02:33tracktheripperthen you can fix "Reshuffle when playlist repeasts"
23:03:10tracktheripper:-)
23:03:43PlughI'
23:03:45midknight2k3<Zagor> midknight2k3: mode? there is no mode. we turn it on or off when we want it on or off. it's completely software controlled.
23:03:49PlughI've never used a playlist
23:04:00Plughand thanks for reminding me about the IRC logs
23:04:00midknight2k3<midknight2k3> i meant a menu, where you choose either HD Activity, Keypress, or HD Power and rockbox will show accordingly
23:04:10midknight2k3<Zagor> i prefer "useful" to "cool" myself... :-)
23:04:19midknight2k3<midknight2k3> or light the led when the peak meter reaches in to the still-to-come redzone?
23:04:22PlughI don't wanna say something I'll regret and have it saved and searchable for eternity
23:04:30midknight2k3like what?
23:04:30Plugh;)
23:04:42midknight2k3<midknight2k3> when recording make the red light flash if the recording has clipped and otherwise make it show hd activity
23:04:42 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m33.net81-67-42.noos.fr)
23:04:44midknight2k3BOD
23:04:47BoD[]hello amigos
23:04:47midknight2k3ITS MY BUD
23:04:49Plughlike what drugs I took this past weekend
23:04:53Plughor whatever
23:05:00BoD[]:))
23:05:05midknight2k3lol
23:05:12midknight2k3midknight2k3> would it waste 70kb of code to just have an ption to reboot and shut down?
23:06:11 Join earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-151-200-32-10.res.east.verizon.net)
23:06:31BoD[]do you talk to yourself??
23:06:40midknight2k3EARHURTS
23:06:41midknight2k3YES
23:06:46midknight2k3can you help redzone
23:06:58earHurtsI'm just here for a minute
23:07:04midknight2k3crackers.
23:07:30earHurtsYou'll be here later?
23:07:46midknight2k3i hope
23:07:56midknight2k3maybe in 3-4 hours?
23:08:05earHurtsYeah, ok
23:08:10midknight2k3probably in the vicinity of that
23:08:13midknight2k3thank god
23:10:09midknight2k3yay
23:10:12midknight2k3i might have it done tonight
23:10:18midknight2k3earhurtsrules!
23:11:25***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
23:14:15Plughafter that we can work on my projects ;)
23:14:25midknight2k3like?
23:14:39Plughvirtual memory
23:14:48midknight2k3crack addicts...
23:14:49Plughand the hard drive bios flasher
23:14:56midknight2k3whoopie doo
23:16:33midknight2k3see ya all
23:17:09midknight2k3THERE WILL BE A REDZONE!
23:17:16 Quit midknight2k3 ("redzone is coming! runn!")
23:18:08scott666lol
23:18:32*scott666 reads what just happened
23:18:58scott666plugh you already said what drugs you did that weekend
23:19:32Plughoh
23:19:40Plughumm... I forgot
23:19:41Plugh;)
23:20:37scott66606.15.04 # <scott666> acid has created some of the best music
23:20:40scott666lol
23:21:01scott666google searchable chat logs = interesting
23:22:08 Quit earHurts (Remote closed the connection)
23:22:29scott666dude i want a remote for my computer
23:22:30scott666lol
23:24:16Plughshit
23:24:26scott666lol
23:24:33PlughI submitted a feature request and it didn't take
23:24:36Plugherror page
23:24:54Plughah. there it goes
23:26:18scott666what was it/
23:26:33Plughdunno. re-submitted and it worked
23:26:42scott666no no what was the request
23:26:57PlughI'll give you #s in a sex
23:26:58Plughsec
23:27:00Plugh;)
23:27:02scott666lol
23:27:05Plughsorry, sex on the brain
23:27:07Plughas always
23:27:26scott666werent you just talking about your step daughter?
23:27:34scott666nevermind...i dont want to know
23:28:07Plughshe's 18 and a 42DD
23:28:17Plughactually
23:28:18scott666jesus christ
23:28:21Plughshe just turned 19
23:28:42scott666who cares, shes legal
23:28:43scott666lol
23:29:05BoD[]what is "42DD"
23:29:06BoD[] ?
23:29:11scott666lol
23:29:13Plughbreast size
23:29:27BoD[]oh ok
23:29:35scott666wait...is the rest of her proportional?
23:29:36BoD[]here we have metric system for that ;)))
23:29:43scott666really?
23:29:44scott666lol
23:29:59BoD[]yep
23:30:06Plughscott666: proportional for 42DD would be... odd looking
23:30:17scott666i wouldve never thought the metric system extended into cup size
23:30:19BoD[]we mesure that in centimeter, plus a letter indicating the "depth"
23:30:37BoD[]thus, "90b" is good
23:30:47scott666by odd looking do you mean fat?
23:30:58scott66690cm?
23:30:59Plugh95cm?
23:31:03BoD[]yep
23:31:16scott666whats the inch/cm ratio?
23:31:21scott6662.6cm = inch?
23:31:24BoD[]$ units
23:31:29PlughI thought it was 2.25
23:31:35Plughbut I could be wrong
23:31:36scott666im not sure
23:31:38Plughis it 2.54?
23:31:54Plughthat's be 107cm
23:31:55BoD[]90cm == 35,4 inches
23:32:06scott666i want a calculator plugin
23:32:59Plughmy requests were for using hard drive space as memory, like a virtual memory scheme
23:33:29Plughand the flash utility for the hard drive BIOS so people don't have to disassemble their units to get rid of the hard drive clicks
23:33:59scott666how would useing the HD for memory be helpful?
23:34:26scott666we want LESS HD spin-ups
23:34:46Plughwouldn't it be nice to be able to store your entire address book on your hard drive?
23:34:49Plughbefore a mad scientist goes mad, there's probably a time when he's only
23:34:52Plughpartially mad, and this is the time when he's going to throw his best
23:34:54Plughparties. −−jack handey
23:35:02scott666lol
23:35:13scott666i have a list of phone numbers
23:36:02PlughI have over 1000 phone numberfs
23:36:08scott666in the format of
23:36:09scott666name−−xxx-xxx-xxxx
23:36:22scott666works as long as no ones name is over 6 letters
23:36:23scott666lol
23:36:57scott666you could make a text db
23:37:21Plughwouldn't be searchable on the archos
23:37:28PlughI have a palm phone
23:37:37Plughbut I'm trying to find something less bulky
23:37:50Plughit's all about convergence
23:38:25scott666yeah
23:38:49scott666archos MMs are going getting there
23:39:03PlughI know
23:39:05scott666as soon as they get a phone and interenet
23:39:21PlughI keep looking at them, but can never justify $600 for one
23:39:39scott666i have a headset that would work great with the line in, line out config
23:41:28scott666i gotta burn some cds and this comp sucks
23:41:33scott666ill be back in like half an hour
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23:45:33ljx805hey
23:45:39ljx805anyone around?
23:46:51hardeepsure
23:47:16ljx805hey
23:47:28Plughbarely
23:47:57Plughbut hardeep answers questions real good. I'm just a troublemaker
23:48:27ljx805i was wondering if u can give me some advice....i was looking to buy the archos jukebox 5000
23:48:31ljx805any good
23:48:51PlughI have an FM Recorder that I can tell you all about
23:49:05Plughbut the 5000 looks pretty good
23:49:21ljx805and by adding roxbox would it improve it alot more
23:49:25ljx805im kinda new
23:49:52PlughI don't think it has the flash ram, so I don't believe it can store rockbox settings same as the recorders
23:50:04Plughbut I think it puts them on the hard drive
23:51:05hardeepljx805: i'd recommend getting a recorder or fm recorder instead of the studio 5000
23:51:08ljx805so it just buts off the default settings
23:51:38hardeepljx805: rockbox is available for both, but the number of features is significantly larger for the recorders
23:51:38ljx805i mean i would get a recorder but i just but an amp and a sub in my car so im kinda of broke and this is the cheapest harddrive player
23:51:44hardeepprimarily because of the lcd screen
23:52:30ljx805is the 5000 really different from the 6000 except the for the amount of space on it
23:52:41hardeepljx805: someone posted a recorder 15 for $160US which is fairly close to studio prices
23:53:26ljx805really? do you kno what site that was?
23:53:27hardeepljx805: yeah, storage space is the big difference between the two
23:53:56hardeepljx805: not online, it was at Fry's which is a retail electronics store
23:54:08hardeepoutpost.com is their online site but I don't see it listed there
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23:55:06ljx805i guess those cheaper 5gb, 6gb, 10gb players are very hard to come by
23:55:24ljx805the one im getting is from jandrmusicworld.com whis is in my area
23:55:28hardeepljx805: archos doesn't sell them anymore... only the 15s and 20s
23:55:32ljx805i dont have a fry's near me
23:56:06hardeepljx805: you might want to check the recorder prices at j&r... i received a flyer from them a few weeks ago that had a pretty good price on the jbr15
23:56:17hardeepi don't remember the exact price but it was < $200
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23:58:11ljx805i appreciate the help hardeep
23:58:35hardeepljx805: the studio 5000 is still not bad and, to answer your question, rockbox will definitely make it better

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