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#rockbox log for 2003-08-12

00:00:09tracktheripperwhat does this file do?
00:00:42Bagderit tells earHurts what sites you've visited! ;-)
00:00:52tracktheripperWHAT!
00:00:58earHurtsno, no, no
00:01:02*Bagder grins
00:01:10tracktherippergrrrrr bag
00:01:12earHurtsit tells me what mp3s you have
00:01:25tracktherippernow u know why I manage feature requests ;-)
00:01:29earHurtsI got laid off, and the riaa pays pretty well
00:01:38Bagderhaha
00:01:38earHurts;)
00:01:50earHurtsno, really, I did get laid off
00:02:02earHurtsthank god
00:02:03tracktheripperwell im Not gonna email u that file then
00:02:07tracktheripperim gonna remove it right now
00:02:14earHurtsoh
00:02:21earHurtstake a look at the file
00:02:30earHurtsit's just a bunch of numbers
00:02:46earHurtsit only shows bitrates, no file names
00:03:29tracktherippergrrrrrrrrrrrr
00:04:10earHurtsit shows your units power consumption
00:04:22earHurtsfor the battery life extender patch
00:04:23tracktheripperwell Bagder scared me senseless
00:04:27tracktheripperive deleted it sorry
00:04:28tracktheripper:-(
00:04:34*Bagder looks innocent
00:04:46Bagderwhat me?
00:04:50*tracktheripper kicks Bagder's arse
00:04:51earHurtswell, just rolo the test.ajz again
00:05:01earHurtsand it'll write another
00:05:20earHurtsand bagder will write an undelete utility in contrition
00:05:20tracktheripperill do that later
00:05:29tracktheripperIf only Bjorn and co learn how to smile
00:05:38tracktheripperFeature request "Make Bagder Smile"
00:05:40earHurtsit's ok
00:05:40tracktheripper"Rejected"
00:05:53tracktheripper"This is not possible to implement, due to personality limitations"
00:05:54tracktheripper:D
00:05:55earHurtsas long as a file was produced, it means we're ok
00:06:04scott666lol
00:06:27tracktheripper:D
00:06:28scott666bjrn != badger
00:06:37Zagortracktheripper: if i wrote smilies everytime you ask me, i'd be doing nothing else
00:06:47tracktheripper:-\
00:07:02Bagdertracktheripper: if you were funny, I'd smile more often
00:07:05Bagderhehe
00:07:10tracktheripper:D
00:07:23tracktheripperwell i havent sent any more requests :D
00:07:38Bagdergood boy
00:07:57tracktheripper:D
00:08:00tracktheripperim always good
00:08:05tracktheripperI never send funny requests
00:08:14Bagdertrue
00:08:19Bagderthey're quite boring
00:08:26Bagder:-)
00:08:30scott666do you send stupid requests though?
00:08:41tracktheripperI never send any funny or boring or stupid requests?
00:08:46tracktheripperif I do, prove it :-)
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00:08:56Bagderyou certainly have done so
00:09:00BagderI bet we have 40 of them
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00:09:17tracktherippererm like what?
00:09:30tracktheripper"make the LCD on the Recorder a touch-screen?"
00:09:39Bagderto name one, yes
00:10:00tracktheripper:-/
00:10:06scott666well if you replcaced the LCD and the controller and wrote a new driver...
00:10:36tracktheripperwell at least I never sent "Make the Recorder pick up FM like the FM recorder" :-D
00:10:40Bagderseen this?
00:10:42Bagderhttp://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/_templates/item_main_Rio.asp?model=220&cat=53
00:11:27tracktheripperyes
00:12:09ZagorBagder: yeah, we were talking a bit about it just before you came in.
00:12:10adi|homei was reading that this morning..
00:12:14adi|homebut its also 400$
00:12:17Bagderok
00:12:27tracktherippercross fader
00:12:29Zagori wonder what kind of disk they are using. the case has no room even for a 1.8" disk!
00:12:37Bagderoh
00:12:44BagderI don't get those US measurements
00:13:01#>>"convert 5.5 oz" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se)
00:13:05Bagderah
00:13:16tracktheripperbadger
00:13:25scott666damn thats small!!
00:13:33scott6663"x3"x1"
00:13:54Bagderand a greyscale lcd
00:13:55tracktheripperit prob uses flash memory!!!
00:14:05Bagderno it says "drive"
00:14:05Zagortracktheripper: uh, no
00:14:53scott666i heard about a 4gb CF card, but still
00:15:09scott666youd need 5 of them
00:15:20scott666and they were like $1500 each
00:15:31Bagderheh
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00:16:13scott666it supports mp3, wma, flac, and ogg!
00:16:24Jt1hey
00:16:33Jt1everyone
00:17:23scott666too bad youll never be able to upgrade the HD
00:17:55earHurtsdoes C have pointers to members?
00:18:57Bagderto members?
00:19:46scott666does C have members?
00:19:58earHurtsyeah, struct foo { int a; }
00:20:15Bagdersure you can point to a single struct member
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00:20:38earHurtsyeah, but not unless I know which foo
00:20:45earHurtsunless I use offsetof
00:20:53Bagderright
00:21:06earHurtsah, it can be done in C++
00:21:22Bagderat a price
00:21:32scott666anynone know how much an fmr weighs off-hand?
00:21:41earHurtsyes, it's moee complicated that a normal pointer
00:21:52earHurtsand usually larger too
00:22:01Bagderscott666: I only recall that it is 60 grams lighter than the regular recorder
00:22:08earHurtscheck the archos site scott
00:22:38scott666yeah i just wanted to see if i didnt have to
00:22:47Bagder .62 lb.
00:22:57#>>"convert .62 lb" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se)
00:25:19scott666so that rio is half the size and half the weight, with more features
00:25:39Bagderand more expensive
00:25:40earHurtsyeah
00:25:41scott666well, more playback features
00:25:49scott666no recording
00:26:23earHurtsbut I've got 60GB on my fm, for the cost of 30GB (interpolated) of Karma
00:28:51scott666yeah... i need to upgrade my HD
00:29:26scott666did you unsolder or bend?
00:29:36earHurtswhy can't I define const ints in terns of other const ints?
00:29:41earHurtsI bent
00:29:49earHurtssolder if you can
00:29:56scott666yeah
00:30:21scott666how much work is there after the unsoldering?
00:30:43scott666cause i opened mine up but didnt have a soldering iron with me, so i couldnt do much
00:30:47earHurtssince I bent, I dunno
00:31:00scott666is it just taking it out and putting in the new one/
00:31:11earHurtsand resoldering, yeah
00:31:28scott666and putting the plasticy dealy on the new HD
00:31:33earHurtsyeah
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00:33:04scott666ok
00:33:23scott666the tricky part is going to be getting the new HD
00:34:30*scott666 doesnt have money
00:36:52scott666any of you guys seen this? www.xgamestation.com
00:37:54earHurtswhat is it?
00:40:02scott666its a game console thats completely open
00:40:15earHurtsoh, right, on slashdot
00:40:31scott666yeah
00:40:38scott666it looks interesting
00:40:44earHurtsI guess
00:40:44scott666and its only $100
00:40:52earHurtsany games for it?
00:41:03scott666not yet
00:41:10scott666hasnt been released yet
00:41:24scott666and i dont think the company is making any games
00:41:51scott666they just give you all the documentation you need to make your own, and a website to share them on
00:42:18earHurtswhy not just use a pc?
00:42:19BagderI doubt it'll become any major hit
00:42:27scott666yeah, i do too
00:42:39scott666still sounds like it could be fun though
00:44:17Zagorso many toys, so little time...
00:44:20Plughbenefit of a closed source game is that you can have a team of 30 developers writing it and testing it, and have a cohesive storyline. When you open the source on a game, you end up with something that isn't fun for one player or is just too simplistic to provide more than a brief amount of entertainment value
00:44:35earHurtszagor, got a minute?
00:44:41Zagorsure
00:45:13scott666tetris is simple enough to make by yourself, but provides hours of entertainment
00:45:29earHurtsfor the last several weeks my disk has been NOISY. it CLINKS down, apparently when it stops
00:45:41scott666ive heard that
00:45:42Plughare you going to buy a $200 gaming system to play tetris?
00:45:55earHurtsI got it specifically because it's supposed to be quiet
00:45:56ZagorearHurts: hitachi?
00:46:11earHurtsfujitsu quiet 60GB
00:46:23earHurtsand it was quiet at first
00:46:42scott666i still want to investigate that HD FW update thing
00:46:47earHurtsbut for the last, 4-5 weeks, CLICKCLUNK
00:47:21PlughI think we're gonna need some assistance from Hitachi on that
00:47:33ZagorearHurts: sounds bad. i'd try getting through to someone at fujitsu if possible.
00:47:36earHurtsit's loud enough to hear over the music, with headphones on.
00:48:00earHurtsit couldn't be something changed in the rockbox code?
00:48:34PlughearHurts: why not check out the code as of like, a month ago and build it
00:48:50earHurtsgood point
00:48:54ZagorearHurts: i doubt it. we haven't changed the disk code in a long time
00:49:08Plughcould also be power management code
00:49:15earHurtsbut my other thought is, the quiet is supposed to be software selectable
00:49:22Zagorpower management doesn't affect the disk
00:49:23earHurtsdid we somehow turn it off?
00:49:35Zagorno, but we don't turn it on either
00:49:41Zagorit's left on default values
00:50:05earHurtshmm
00:50:08earHurtsthanks
00:50:13scott666is it possible to change through rockbox?
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00:50:31Zagorscott666: it's not implemented. it could be.
00:50:56Plughwell, I have this Audible.com subscription, and it won't be supported for playback on the Archos :/
00:51:06scott666would the code need to be different for every different drive?
00:51:23Zagorscott666: no, the acoustic management is part of the ata spec
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00:51:51Bagderlinus the man
00:51:55Plughso I guess I'm going to need to get their player and use the recording function of my FMR
00:52:12LinusNthe myth, the legend
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00:52:16Bagder:-)
00:52:31PlughI was beginning to wonder if you were just a myth
00:52:39scott666me too
00:52:40scott666heh
00:52:41ZagorLinusN: i fixed the keyboard, btw. i bought a silver solution pen and drew a new trace.
00:52:42LinusNhehe
00:52:48LinusNnice
00:52:58PlughI've been hanging out in this channel 24x7 for about 2 or 3 weeks and haven't seen you log in till just now
00:53:08LinusNdon't make such strong coffee in the future
00:53:21LinusNPlugh: it's called "vacation"
00:53:25Plughahh
00:53:32Plughwelcome home, in that case
00:53:36LinusNthx
00:53:50LinusNstill, i have very little time for hacking nowadays
00:54:06Plughgreat thing about open source
00:54:08LinusNmy family takes a lot of time
00:54:16Plughit seems to evolve in the absence of its creator
00:54:22LinusNyeah
00:54:34Plughyou been keeping an eye on the checkins?
00:54:55LinusNyeah
00:54:57ZagorPlugh: hint: linusn isn't the creator :)
00:55:20Plughah. sorry. Misread the history of the dev process
00:55:24earHurtsheretic!
00:55:27Bagderbut he's... LinusN the myth!
00:55:31Bagder:-P
00:55:32LinusNno, i only wrote most of the drivers... :-)
00:55:32earHurtsburn himA
00:55:36Zagorhehe
00:55:47PlughI've been burned for heresy before
00:56:03PlughI'm quite used to it now
00:56:15Topic"The existance of Rockbox is one of those urban legends" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se)
00:56:22earHurtsnot with a rich hickory smoke
00:56:50Plughyeah. It's usually just with saltpeter and brimstone
00:57:01klaxoni heard about rockbox on snopes.com
00:57:23scott666i heard about it on /.
00:57:31PlughI heard about it from a co-worker who heard a rumor that there was a firmware replacement for the archos
00:57:33BagderI heard voices in my head
00:57:37Plughthen I googled it
00:58:52LinusNand i just teamed up with zagor and started writing the damn thing
00:58:52klaxontempted to buy an archos, amazon is selling 10bg studio for 150 - 50 rebate
00:58:56BagderI take it you find it pretty fast? ;-)
00:58:57earHurtson snopes?
00:59:02Bagderfound even
00:59:05earHurtsit's an urban legend??
00:59:27scott666duh!
00:59:55klaxonbut one thing - does it use chicago font? cuz that's what i like about ipod.
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01:00:11earHurtsatadore is close enough
01:00:12Bagderklaxon: get the recorder model and use whatever font you want
01:00:13scott666chicago12
01:00:22Bagderdesign your own
01:00:32earHurtsms comic!
01:00:57scott666id like that
01:01:02LinusNhttp://rockbox.haxx.se/fonts/chicago12.fnt
01:01:08klaxonactually i was floored when i saw chicago on the ipod. apple is weak.
01:01:29klaxonlinusn: i was joking, but hah! now that is funny.
01:02:15Plughthere's lots of fonts
01:02:20earHurtswhat's port 1464 used for?
01:02:20Plughtake your pick
01:02:20scott666yeah
01:02:55PlughearHurts: haxxors running open ircd's off your box ;)
01:03:05earHurtsyum
01:04:19earHurtsahhhnold for guhnvahna
01:04:48klaxonis $100 a good price for the 10gb studio? or what's a good price for the recorder?
01:05:50scott666someone has the 15gb rec on sale for $160
01:06:25klaxonscott: someone, who? cause that's $60 well spent imo
01:06:36scott666dunno
01:06:38Zagorbed time
01:06:39scott666it was on the list
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01:06:49klaxonthx i'll look
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01:10:30hardeepklaxon: it was at Fry's electronics which is a US retail store
01:11:04klaxonfry's is in my area. about how long ago? (i'm searching mail archives now)
01:11:13scott666that sounds right
01:11:15hardeepklaxon: messages were posted this weekend
01:12:14klaxonah: <machtenx> it's only 160 bucks at fries
01:12:21klaxoni'll check it out THX
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01:12:59PlughFry's is all over my area. Kinda like an infestation
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01:13:21scott666never heard of em
01:13:36hardeepheh, Fry's is great
01:13:51klaxonthe b&m of outpost.com. don't go there, you go away poor.
01:13:54Plughit's in San Jose, CA area, Southern Cali, Las Vegas, and Texas
01:14:04earHurtscompusa for the west coast, but with more of a surplus shop feel?
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01:14:18Plughmore of a grocery store feel
01:14:19Plugh:)
01:14:27Plughand we have CompUSA too
01:14:33scott666we have best buy
01:14:42scott666so fo we
01:14:46scott666*do
01:14:47earHurtsbest buy suxors
01:14:57Plughyeah, we got best buy out here
01:15:09earHurtsthey don't even provide bags big enough for what they sell
01:15:10PlughI bought an air conditioner from there once
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01:16:46Bagdernight
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01:24:04klaxonhey i called frys, they said they have the ONDIO for $150
01:24:11klaxonthat's not a jukebox
01:25:05scott666i think thats the fklash player
01:25:15klaxonyeah its 128mb
01:25:47klaxonso is that the one on sale at frys? i can't find anything in the mail archive (i'm not subbd)
01:26:39klaxonduh i found it Subject: JBR 15 for $160 at Fry's
01:28:24klaxoncool i'm excited. this rockbox project looks great folks. i'm gettin me a jbr 15!
01:28:57scott666make sure its usb 2
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01:30:16klaxonscott: how so? you mean usb 1.1 (j/k)
01:33:36hardeepall the new jbr 15's are usb2 and that's what Fry's was carrying
01:34:15*Plugh anxiously awaits his lighted USB A to mini B cable
01:34:22klaxonanything like a s/n or something to identify the newer ones? well, i can always return it.
01:34:39Plughheh. Fry's returns are always a pain
01:34:40hardeepklaxon: there's a big sticker that says USB 2.0 on the front of the box
01:34:54klaxonhardeep: well okay then.
01:35:56klaxonthanks a buch folks you all roxorz
01:37:48*klaxon dreams: ipaq 802.11 linux + rockbox - pirate radio.
01:39:03Plughwe all roxbox
01:39:52Plughjust use rockbox + fm-10 setup
01:40:37Plughyou can fit hundreds of hours of programming into a toolbox
01:40:53scott666fm-10??
01:41:31Plughit's an FM modulator chip
01:41:42Plughaudio in, FM modulated signal out
01:42:07Plughrun it through a little solid state linear amp, output to a tuned antenna, and you're broadcasting
01:42:51klaxoni was thinking mp3 streaming.
01:42:57Plughah
01:43:17*Plugh 's imagination runs away with him at times
01:43:43klaxonplugh: build one backed up to a mic many years ago in electronics class. instant karaoke.
01:43:58PlughMr. Microphone! :)
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02:17:30earHurtsahhhnold for guhvahnah
02:18:46Plughwhy the hell not?
02:18:57PlughI mean, we elected Ronald Reagan
02:19:31Plughhis biggest claim to fame before Cali gov. was playing second fiddle to a monkey in some movies
02:20:46Plughoh yeah. Bonzo
02:21:00Plughanyhow, gotta start packing up to go home
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10:03:33Bagderyup
10:07:33adi|homewanted to know if im alone in this problme..
10:07:41adi|homebasically.. if i have my archos mounted..
10:07:47adi|homeand the unit dies.. batteries etc...
10:08:39adi|homeit locks my machine...
10:08:54adi|homenot sure if i missed a setting on the kernel or something...
10:09:06adi|homei mean.. is usb times out.. it shouldn't just lock my box should it?
10:09:11Bagderactually, I've not had my archos died like that while mounted
10:09:18Schnueffi had it once
10:09:24Schnueffit made USB unusable
10:09:27Schnueffhad to reboot
10:09:52adi|homehmm.. seems.. my battery gets low.. and even if its plugged in it dies on occasion
10:10:06adi|homeit wasn't usb being unusable.. it just locked
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10:12:21Schnueffafter that experience, i don't let it die anymore while mounted
10:12:27Schnueffat least i try to :)
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16:01:30Nomad__anyone know the size of the drive in a Jukebox 10?
16:01:36Nomad__physical depth, etc?
16:02:58Nomad__I have an 18Gig I'd like to put in my JB10 but want to make sure it'll fit, remember see'ing a size somewhere on the site but can't find it now
16:18:51PsycoXul9.5mm
16:23:03Nomad__ok, this claims to be 9.5, good deal
16:23:12Nomad__guess I have a project when I get home tonight
16:23:45Nomad__hopefully this'll behave better to vibration and shock than the one that comes stock
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16:25:59Nomad__wish there was an easy way to upgrade the memory on a JB10 though
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16:56:06diddystar5hey
16:56:13nevsabout irc
16:56:19nevswhats the address to connect to
16:56:41nevsbecusae everytimr i have to go to the website and click on the link so it connects my IRC
16:57:18diddystar5dunno ;)
16:57:34nevsgo to options
16:57:44nevshow do u connect to this server?
16:58:26diddystar5you tell your irc client to connect to "irc.freenode.net"
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17:06:53nevshhey
17:07:36hardeepi
17:07:40hardeeper hi
17:09:40nevswhen u connect to rockbox, is there a way so it doesnt go to the channel list, but so it goes direct to the rockbox channe;
17:10:17hardeepnevs: i'm sure you can configure your irc client to do that
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17:11:25MalphAWsnevs ??? what is ur irc client ?
17:11:54nevsMirc
17:12:00MalphAWsgo in otpions
17:12:11MalphAWsconnect
17:12:12nevsyeah
17:12:13MalphAWsperform
17:12:29MalphAWsnetwork select add
17:12:34MalphAWsand freenode
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17:13:30MalphAWsthen select freenode in the combo box
17:13:45MalphAWsand add in the text box : "/j #rockbox"
17:13:50MalphAWswithout quotes
17:13:55MalphAWsand that's done :)
17:14:19MalphAWsas soon as u connect mIRC at freenode, it'll join #rockbox :)
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17:14:49MalphAWss/at/to/
17:15:21MalphAWsis it working ?
17:15:32nevshang on
17:15:37nevswhats that command again
17:15:49nevsthe j #rockbox
17:16:04MalphAWs/j #rockbox
17:16:08nevsok
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17:16:12MalphAWsdo not forget the / :)
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17:17:23MalphAWsdid u check the box : Enable perform on connect
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17:18:09MalphAWsnevs is it working ?
17:18:28nevsyep
17:19:03MalphAWsnow : AW :)
17:19:14nevsthx
17:19:21MalphAWsnp :)
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17:54:14diddystar5hardeep: in settings.c, backlight.h is included 2 times
17:54:39hardeepdiddystar5: we want to make sure it really gets included
17:55:18diddystar5but 2 times? ;)
17:55:31hardeepbetter safe then sorry! =)
17:56:48diddystar5i'm going through all the files and cleaning out all of the // comments
17:57:07diddystar5so far i have cleaned uisimulator gdb and tools
17:57:32hardeepdiddystar5: heh, you must be bored. :)
17:58:00diddystar5since i can't program very well *at all* it's what i can do
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18:07:39diddystar5i thought sf said they were going to have cvs fixed in a week 2 months ago
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19:39:48hardeepheya Zagor
19:40:16Zagorhi
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19:50:05>>>"seen" used by Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented]
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22:10:32Guest57hi all
22:11:41Guest57I just get a 80GB hitachi HD, but I could not format it entirely using XP, I now that Partition magic could do it :((( but I do not have it , so is there a solution to do it under windoze , and having the disk accessed through usb interface ? thanks
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22:12:12Nomad__blech
22:12:45Guest57Nomad: what is it ?
22:13:00Nomad__just tried to put a new drive in my JB10
22:13:09Nomad__the docs list the drive at 9.5mm
22:13:19Nomad__need to find a tape measure because it defiitely didn't fit
22:16:25Nomad__Yup, 12mm
22:16:47Nomad__bah, was looking forward to upgrading to 20Gigs and a better drive
22:19:30Guest57haz someone some news about the bttery lifetime patch
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22:20:16ZagorGuest57: try Ranish Partition Manager. It's a free util.
22:20:26ZagorGuest57: http://www.ranish.com/part/
22:20:54Zagori don't know if it works through usb though
22:21:31ZagorNomad__: did you buy the new drive?
22:21:47Nomad__no, came out of an old, dead laptop
22:21:50Zagorok
22:22:15Nomad__still sucks though
22:22:25Zagoryeah, too bad
22:23:19Nomad__probalby none of the archos box can use it either I take it
22:23:59Guest57opk Zagor
22:24:53ZagorNomad__: no, they all require 9.5mm
22:25:21Nomad__blech ok, thanks
22:25:31Nomad__it's working much better on the motorcycle though
22:25:54Nomad__still hangs up when I hit 78MPH but has a much better chance of recovering and continuing when I slow down and hit traffic
22:26:13Zagorwhich model disk are you using?
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22:26:36#>>"convert 78 miles" by Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se)
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22:27:23BoD[]hello !
22:27:26Zagorhi
22:27:49BoD[]what's up !
22:28:15Zagornot much. busy with non-rockbox stuff...
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22:31:27BoD[]like what ? some other project of yours ?
22:32:49Zagoryes. i run an apartment swapping website
22:34:25BoD[]apartment swapping? :) what is that
22:35:44Zagorwhen you want a new place to live, you can find people to swap with on the site
22:36:32BoD[]like .. you want someone's apartment and he has to want yours ?
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22:38:25Zagoryes
22:38:41BoD[]strange :)
22:40:12Plughhah
22:40:34Plughjust scrolled back and saw Nomad talking about his bike
22:41:02PlughI've known him for about 10 years. Didn't figure I'd see him on this channel on this net though
22:42:37BoD[]:))
22:42:44BoD[]it's a small worlds
22:42:45BoD[]d
22:42:58Plughyep
22:43:13PlughI hung out with him and his wife in Vegas a couple years ago
22:43:18ZagorPlugh: about your virtual memory request: what would you use it for?
22:43:43PlughZagor: writing apps that can make use of/search large data sets
22:43:59PlughI had in mind an app that'd hold my phone list
22:44:04Plughexported from Outlook
22:44:10PlughI have over 600 records
22:44:24Zagorremember that we don't have an mmu, so all virtual memory handling would have to be application-aware. i don't see much gain then.
22:44:47Zagor600 records don't fit in 1.5 MB??
22:45:34Plughlet's find out
22:46:06Zagorthat's 2.5kb per entry...
22:46:13Plughexporting csv
22:47:26Plugh604 records right now
22:47:54Plughdoes an app have access to the full 1.5mb?
22:48:03Plugh241k
22:48:40Plughwhich I could probably reduce with judicious selection of columns
22:48:44ZagorPlugh: yes they do, or will at least. i just haven't added it to the api yet.
22:49:47BoD[]to what format do you export them?
22:49:55Plugh.csv
22:50:00BoD[]ok
22:50:14Plughnice and portable
22:50:15Plugh;)
22:50:51PlughI'm trying to eliminate the need for my PalmOS cellphone, so I can get a smaller one
22:51:02Plughespecially since I'm always carrying my archos
22:51:24BoD[]hmm
22:51:31Plughthe calendar app was a great start
22:51:54BoD[]but i'm sure the "keyboard" of the archos is not perfect for this kind of apps :)
22:52:11Plughneither is graffiti, afaic
22:52:33BoD[]:) maybe
22:53:07BoD[]i hope some day we'll have smal devices that can do all that stuff
22:53:21BoD[]multimedia/pda/phone all in one
22:53:29BoD[]small, light, cheap
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22:53:38BoD[]good design ;)
22:53:59PlughI just want a device that ties into my optic and aural nerve bundles
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22:54:15PlughI don't ask for much...
22:54:23ZagorPlugh: i can do that. does it have to work? ;)
22:54:28BoD[]hh :) maybe not tomorow
22:54:42PlughZagor: at least a little
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22:54:57Plughice pick wasn't what I had in mind
22:55:59BoD[]:)
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23:13:26tracktheripperDoes anyone think theres a difference between a WAV and an MP3 recorded directly on the Archos via digital on highest quality?
23:15:01BoD[]there's a difference between an mp3 and a wav
23:15:14Zagoryes, the mp3 will sound worse since you're encoding it a second time
23:19:23tracktheripperwell to me a WAV and a MP3 done on the Archos sound very similar
23:19:29tracktherippercouldnt spot difference
23:20:00Zagorthen be happy and don't worry about it
23:20:15tracktheripper:D
23:20:18tracktheripper:D :D :D
23:21:38PlughHAPPIER!
23:21:42Plughbe HAPPIER!
23:22:11BoD[]<3
23:23:58BoD[](it's a heart)
23:24:03PlughI know
23:27:43BoD[](it's the most ridiculous "smiley" I know)
23:28:31tracktheripperI like to have a Playlist Editor like the Archos firmware and on the fly ID3 tag editing
23:29:09Plughvoting?
23:29:10Plugh:)
23:29:29Plughrealtime track rating
23:31:10BoD[]btw .. what is the "talkbox" ?
23:31:57PlughI was trying to figure that out
23:32:07Zagorit's a patch that plays a dirname.mp3 for each dir you enter. good for blind users.
23:32:12PlughI think I'm gonna install Zagor's 180 degree patch though
23:32:21Zagorthat was hardeep
23:32:26Plughoh?
23:32:35Plughokay
23:32:39Plughwell, whoever
23:32:44Zagor:)
23:32:49Plughit's a useful patch
23:33:00Plughthat stupid case makes it necessary
23:33:31BoD[]ok thanks :)
23:33:37BoD[]and what is 180 degree ?
23:33:56Plughflips the display and buttons
23:34:07BoD[]!!:)
23:34:14BoD[]what's the use ?
23:34:52Plughputs the headphone jack at the top of the unit
23:34:57tracktheripperWhat the hell is a "Software Charger"!!!!
23:35:03tracktheripperI though a charger is hardware!
23:36:09Plughwoot! Work is providing beer&pizza tonight
23:36:18Plughand I don't have to drive home ;)
23:36:28BoD[]you're at work ?
23:36:44tracktheripperZagor why does the Recorder have a "Software Tuner?"
23:36:53tracktherippersorry "Software Charger?"
23:37:04Zagorit doesn't
23:37:19tracktheripperyou say the charging is done by software and not hardware
23:37:33Zagorit's *controlled* by software
23:38:03tracktheripperoh
23:38:15tracktheripperand is "software" better for battery management and codition?
23:39:05Zagorsince there is no hardware to handle it otherwise, we need software. someone has to turn off the charger when the batteries are fully charged.
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23:40:31tracktheripperYAY!!!
23:40:40*tracktheripper gets the red carpet for Bagder
23:44:40BoD[]:)
23:45:07*Bagder dances on the carpet
23:46:24Zagori love bostream's new "vdsl installation status page".
23:46:28BoD[]:_)
23:46:50Zagoryou type in your number and it gives you your install status. my status page is: <html><body></body></html>
23:47:02BoD[]:)))
23:48:03Bagderone good thing about me moving already in august
23:48:11BagderI can go for the scream offer
23:48:16Bagderme want 26mbit
23:48:39tracktheripperi want a 256mb leased line
23:48:45Zagormy preliminary report says i have 1450m to the station == 8/1 speed :(
23:49:01Bagdertracktheripper: but I can actually get 26mbit for 40 US$ a month
23:49:15BagderZagor: oh, you got a distance?
23:49:35Zagoryeah, i got a mail. although they say it's only preliminary, whatever that means
23:49:53tracktheripperdo an inverted video line for the Player
23:58:51tracktheripperWhat actually "digitises" the analog signals from the Line In on the Recorder?

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