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#rockbox log for 2003-09-03

00:00:06Plughmorning
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00:00:15Plughwhatever
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02:16:03midknight2k3any programmers around?
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02:21:49midknight2k3poor adi
02:23:41midknight2k3k3no
02:23:47midknight2k3can you do rockbox coding?
02:24:47midknight2k3mt?
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03:21:41midknight2k3hello scott
03:22:05scott666hey
03:22:13midknight2k3guess what i've done
03:22:21midknight2k3F2 and F3 now have a PLAY button!
03:22:23midknight2k3yay
03:22:24scott666i hate typing in the dark
03:22:37scott666play? why??
03:22:59midknight2k3F2 Play = Follow Playlist - F3 Play = Show Icons - Recording F2 Play = Editable Frames
03:23:03midknight2k3more functions i guess
03:23:09midknight2k3simpler to access stuff
03:23:11scott666oooooh i see
03:23:45scott666now if you were to just put useful functions on them
03:23:50midknight2k3sure
03:23:53midknight2k3any ideas?
03:24:14scott666hmmmm
03:24:25midknight2k3now i've figured out how to get LANG_x to work right, anything is possible really
03:24:28scott666wormlet from F3 would kick ass
03:24:35midknight2k3wormlet? lol
03:25:00midknight2k3i highly doubt björn would approve
03:25:00scott666or hardeeps playlist viewer
03:25:07midknight2k3well
03:25:14scott666THAT would be excellent
03:25:20midknight2k3the playlist viewer needs to be implemented in rockbox first
03:25:24scott666F3 should have playlist stuff
03:25:36scott666imo
03:25:41midknight2k3otherwise the patch would have to "assume" it's there which it might not
03:25:44midknight2k3yeah
03:25:56scott666at least when in the WPS
03:26:04midknight2k3yeah good idea
03:26:36scott666did you read bagder's proposal about context sensitice F3?
03:27:07midknight2k3i remember it but don't remember the details
03:28:52midknight2k3i don't believe how hard this has been
03:29:11midknight2k3my first idea involved calling favorites.rock when F2 is pressed then play
03:29:17midknight2k3to add to favorites playlist
03:29:49midknight2k3then the compiler didn't like that, so theres that idea gone at least till hardeep comes back
03:30:13midknight2k3basically i'm gonna release it as is and update it with better functions later
03:31:14scott666you got your redzone done, right?
03:31:23midknight2k3oh yeah
03:31:25midknight2k3a while ago
03:31:29midknight2k3i need to update that patch
03:31:30scott666i was gonna try that out
03:31:31scott666lol
03:31:34midknight2k3lol
03:31:39midknight2k3needs a menu option and stuff
03:31:45midknight2k3and a dbfs setting
03:31:48midknight2k3AKA i gave up
03:31:49midknight2k3lol
03:31:52scott666cause it seemed really useful when i was recording the other day
03:32:10scott666*seemed like it would be really useful
03:32:13midknight2k3yeah i just need to throw together a menu
03:32:26midknight2k3it assumes you use linear, not dbfs
03:32:31midknight2k3is that correct for you?
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03:34:28midknight2k3hardeep ,what do you know
03:34:33midknight2k3just wishing you were here
03:34:44scott666wait...linear what?
03:34:49midknight2k3for peak meter
03:35:00midknight2k3general settings - display - peak meter - scale
03:35:08scott666oh
03:35:10scott666i dont
03:35:11scott666lol
03:35:17midknight2k3you use dbfs?
03:35:20scott666i never use pm
03:35:26midknight2k3well in recording
03:35:29scott666only time i see it is when recording
03:35:33midknight2k3yeah
03:35:40scott666it has all default settings
03:35:52midknight2k3really?
03:35:53midknight2k3lol
03:36:04midknight2k3i played with the settings for a half hour fine tuning it
03:36:05midknight2k3lol
03:36:17midknight2k3and i also changed the FPS from 20 to 170
03:36:18scott666i never use the pm, so i never did
03:36:34midknight2k3then lowered it back to 35
03:36:58midknight2k3well the redzone is also precompiled, albeit a bit old
03:37:07midknight2k3you can give it a go as of now if you want
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03:39:53midknight2k3lol my battery is so dead it won't spinup the HD when usb goes in
03:40:04midknight2k3i mustve gone usb and off like 75 times today
03:40:11midknight2k3so.. much... work...
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03:49:41scott666nooooo i have school tomorrow
03:49:46secretagentsebheh
03:50:12midknight2k3not i till thursay
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03:50:33scott666the freshman had to go to day
03:50:35scott666fuckers
03:50:36scott666lol
03:50:52midknight2k3i will be 1337 h4x0r1ng "&ROCKBOX" while you are being bored
03:51:08midknight2k3where the "&" overlaps the "R"
03:51:25secretagentsebi not until the 15th
03:51:31midknight2k3sre
03:51:32secretagentsebbut i want to go to school
03:51:34midknight2k3sure*
03:51:39midknight2k3lol
03:52:07midknight2k3"&|20C|<80><
03:52:34midknight2k3"&|20C|<-B0><
03:53:04midknight2k3this is frustrating
03:54:30midknight2k3heh... f2-test-25.ajz
03:54:36midknight2k325th time's the charm
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04:18:32hardeepmidknight2k3: did you have a question?
04:18:47midknight2k3well, yeah...
04:19:01midknight2k3how could i make PLAY in the F2 screen call favorites.rock?
04:19:17midknight2k3i tried to use the code from the games menu, but the compiler refused
04:19:45hardeepmidknight2k3: refused how?
04:19:54midknight2k3it gave an error
04:20:03midknight2k3i didnt really expect it to work
04:20:04hardeep... and the error was ...
04:20:07midknight2k3just a stab in the dark really
04:20:19midknight2k3i think it has to do with "parse error before ";"
04:20:33midknight2k3should it have worked?
04:21:00hardeepif you did it exactly like the games menu then, yeah, it should've worked
04:21:16hardeepplugin_load("/.rockbox/rocks/flipit.rock",NULL)...
04:21:17midknight2k3i suppose i put it in the wrong place or something
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05:33:24midknight2k3my patch is up!
05:33:25midknight2k3yay
05:33:34midknight2k3there is a bug i think i will look into tomorrow
05:37:35thuwhat does it do?
05:37:44midknight2k3puts PLAY in f2/f3
05:37:54thumeh
05:38:06midknight2k3it's just sort of an idea as of now, i'm going to switch the functions around and stuff
05:38:29midknight2k3but that took quite a few hours and i am exhausted
05:38:37thuheh
05:38:48thuthat's what programming does to a man
05:39:15thuI was thinking about patching the only thing that really annoys me about rockbox
05:39:24midknight2k3which thing?
05:39:30thuthe REW button
05:39:42thuif you press it one time it replays the current song
05:39:44midknight2k3whats bad about it
05:39:48midknight2k3yeah
05:39:52thuif you press it two times slowly it replays the current song
05:39:59midknight2k3huh?
05:40:01secretagentsebdepends on how quickly you push it twice
05:40:10midknight2k3weird
05:40:12thuI can never push it the right way
05:40:14midknight2k3i wanna see that
05:40:19thuI either get the current song or the one before :)
05:40:21midknight2k3just clicklick is all you need
05:40:26midknight2k3oh
05:40:31midknight2k3you want to play it slowly?
05:40:33thuI mean either the current song or *2* songs before it
05:40:47thumidknight2k3: :\
05:40:52midknight2k3it's just CLICKLICK lol
05:40:53thumidknight2k3: I want to get to the prev song
05:41:01thumidknight2k3: that will get you 2 songs back
05:41:03midknight2k3clickclick is all
05:41:04thufor some reason
05:41:06midknight2k3not really
05:41:09midknight2k3not for me
05:41:22thuuhm that reminds me I have to charge my unit
05:41:33midknight2k3speakin of which mine is dead
05:41:35midknight2k3lol
05:41:53midknight2k3USB_CABLE=INSERTED - STATUS=CANNOT_SPINUP_HDD
05:42:08midknight2k3i mustve done plu gand unplug on usb 75 times today
05:42:17thuoh and I had mine panic the other day
05:42:22midknight2k3doing what?
05:42:28thudunno clickclicking around
05:42:45thuI was in the car though so I didn't have time to mess with it
05:42:50thuI just rebooted
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05:44:03midknight2k3i feel like the master of C now lol
05:44:06midknight2k3after all that
05:44:13midknight2k3i feel i can do things i couldn't do before
05:44:20midknight2k3i feel powerful
05:46:01midknight2k3people are beginning to go missing
05:46:09midknight2k3old people are leaving and new people arrive
05:46:19midknight2k3earhurts has been gone lately
05:46:22midknight2k3most notable
05:46:25midknight2k3bod too
05:46:35midknight2k3and new is uski and darkangel
05:46:42midknight2k3things are changing
05:47:28midknight2k3anyways i gotta go
05:47:29midknight2k3well
05:47:32midknight2k3i feel like going
05:47:32midknight2k3lol
05:47:34midknight2k3tired
05:47:43hardeepthu: if you hit back within 2s of track starting then it takes you to previous track otherwise it goes to start of current track
05:47:53midknight2k3right thu
05:47:56midknight2k3its supposed to
05:47:56hardeepthu: that's why you have to hit back twice to get to previous track
05:48:03thuheh then I probably triple click by reflex
05:48:08thuwhen I see nothing is happening
05:48:21midknight2k3so you can start one and hear it and if its not the right one then hit back again to go back without dubble clicking
05:48:26midknight2k3thats dumb lol
05:48:30midknight2k3ever used a stereo?
05:48:32midknight2k3cd player?
05:48:35midknight2k3anything?
05:48:40midknight2k3archos firmware sucks
05:48:49midknight2k3no matter what, << goes back 1 track
05:48:53midknight2k3no restarting tracks
05:48:57midknight2k3thats just one thing
05:49:03midknight2k3then the timer is off
05:49:10midknight2k3it goes by like 3x a real second
05:49:24midknight2k3so a 3:00 song usually ends up like 6:00 on the archos
05:49:30midknight2k3and it counts dubble fast
05:49:45midknight2k3and it has no games or fonts or wps' or demos or settings
05:49:55thuargh here we go again
05:50:08midknight2k3lol
05:50:10midknight2k3i stop
05:50:21midknight2k3<tired>yawn</tired>
05:51:03midknight2k3anyways bye
05:51:05midknight2k3sheesh
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10:01:52knobbyis the sh1 bit addressable at all?
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11:24:56trackmorningh
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11:27:15webmindheh...
11:27:42webmindi modded my archos adapter :) pictures: http://photo.expr42.net/archos/
11:30:21dwihnohttp://photo.expr42.net/archos/naked/img_0018.jpg - hardcore mod ;D
11:32:26dwihnolooks evil! :)
11:33:09trackhi dwihno
11:33:24dwihnohi track
11:33:31dwihnolook at those pics!
11:33:36webmindi still got to fix a casing for it
11:34:18tracku broke it
11:37:32webmindno.. not really :)
11:37:50webmindi broke the original disk because the lack of casing though :)
11:38:12trackmpeg-playback="change_tempo_but_keep_pitch_the_same"
11:39:59trackcode for the timestretch patch
11:40:00track:D
11:40:01trackjoke
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11:45:51dwihno:-)
11:45:58dwihnoThat track kid sure is funny :)
11:53:35webmindwhat is jump scroll btw?
11:53:47dwihnoevil stuff for the player
11:54:25webmindyes
11:54:28webmindwhat does it do ?
11:55:06dwihnodunno. perhaps jumps to the beginning when scroll is done?
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11:57:31webmindcaption backlight ?
11:58:49dwihnonah
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12:04:59webmindwhat is it ?
12:05:13webmindbtw there's a small and tiny fault the the manual :)
12:05:36dwihnoGood :D
12:05:42webmindheh
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12:13:58webminduhm, is there any info on whichin plugin does what?
12:14:41webmindlovely.. viewer crashed though
12:15:02webmindarg its in dutch
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18:49:42elinenbehello there! long time, no see.
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19:01:43Quelsarukhi
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19:18:23Quelsarukhi midknight2k3
19:18:32midknight2k3hey
19:18:43midknight2k3you're the language guy right lol
19:18:50Quelsarukyups
19:18:52Quelsarukmore or less
19:18:53Quelsaruk:)
19:19:04midknight2k3what do you do? perfect them?
19:19:09midknight2k3just wondering
19:19:41Quelsarukbasically, updating languages and merging them to the source code
19:19:57midknight2k3i bet we're near the limit now
19:20:13midknight2k3almost any one i've heard of is in here and some i haven't even heard of
19:20:30Quelsaruk¿?
19:20:31Quelsaruksorry
19:20:34Quelsaruki don't understand you
19:20:42midknight2k3i mean, we have basically all that are makable
19:20:48midknight2k3make-able
19:21:01Quelsarukall languages, i suppose there are a lot more :)
19:21:14midknight2k3well yeah but not many can go on the archos
19:21:29midknight2k3like chinese and all variations are.. impossible really
19:21:38midknight2k3possible but not simply done
19:21:42midknight2k3well
19:21:46midknight2k3probably not possible
19:21:51midknight2k3unless we toss the mpeg code
19:21:54midknight2k3:)
19:22:00Quelsarukjeje
19:22:09Quelsarukbut still we have some minor languages
19:22:14Quelsaruklike Euskera or Catalan
19:22:28midknight2k3yeah
19:22:34Quelsarukor some eastern Europe languages
19:22:59midknight2k3no comments on my patch! grr.
19:23:11Quelsarukif i have to say the truth, i use it in english and not in spanish
19:23:17midknight2k3no comments on either of my patches! grr.
19:23:22Quelsaruksorry
19:23:31Quelsaruki haven't used them
19:23:34midknight2k3not your fault lol
19:23:41Quelsaruk:P
19:24:49midknight2k3why didnt you keep the h4x0r lang file?
19:25:11Quelsarukbecause it hadn't had a source file
19:25:28Quelsaruk(is that correct?)
19:25:31midknight2k3source file?
19:25:39midknight2k3oh
19:25:41Quelsaruka .lang file
19:25:44Quelsarukonly the .lng
19:25:48midknight2k3i tried it
19:25:57midknight2k3i used the lang
19:26:04midknight2k3wait
19:26:09Quelsarukumm
19:26:12midknight2k3lang is source and lng is the language file?
19:26:14Quelsarukby the way, i'm not really shure
19:26:35midknight2k3ohhhhhh
19:26:37midknight2k3i see
19:26:38Quelsarukbut i think there is some kind of problem with using play on quick screens
19:26:40midknight2k3they ARE lng files
19:26:44midknight2k3nope
19:26:48midknight2k3that was "up"
19:26:50Quelsarukah
19:26:51Quelsaruk:)
19:26:53midknight2k3up dont work but play does
19:26:57midknight2k3and i think on does too
19:27:02midknight2k3but that involves new icons
19:27:07midknight2k3and bmp2rb hates me
19:27:07Quelsaruki knew there was something strange
19:27:12Quelsarukhehe
19:27:33Quelsarukit took me 2 hours to understand it correctly
19:27:34midknight2k3photoshop let me say it to be 1 bit for a play pause icon, but nooo!
19:27:49midknight2k3bmp2rb said it had 1024 bits or something
19:28:02midknight2k3i think it was 16 for photshop and 1024 for paint
19:28:18Quelsarukanyway, Bagder wanted to change those screens, so i don't think that patch will be merged... just my opinion
19:28:25midknight2k3yeah
19:28:52midknight2k3and theres a bug but i don't feel like correcting it
19:29:09midknight2k3and the code is a bit sloppy
19:29:45midknight2k3(width - w)/3 -16, (height * h2)\8.7 or something lol
19:30:44Quelsaruki tried making a graphic menu, but i haven't finished it yet. not enough spare time for it :(
19:30:53midknight2k3graphic menu?
19:30:55midknight2k3meaning?
19:32:33Quelsarukumm.. wait a moment
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19:35:02midknight2k3oops
19:35:05midknight2k3continue :)
19:35:22Quelsarukget that snapshot
19:35:24Quelsaruk:)
19:35:27midknight2k3ok
19:35:38midknight2k3macromedia fireworks is opening it
19:35:39midknight2k3odd
19:36:10midknight2k3wow
19:36:15midknight2k3very very cool
19:36:29midknight2k3is that made in an image editor?
19:36:35Quelsarukyups
19:36:47midknight2k3looks cool
19:36:50Quelsarukbut it was nearly like that on the archos
19:36:53midknight2k3any progress?
19:37:11midknight2k3wow
19:37:13Quelsaruky was able to make the "on/off" icon work
19:37:15midknight2k3i wish i could have that
19:37:25midknight2k3cant wait
19:38:19midknight2k3and i also think rockbox should be 3.0 next version
19:38:36Quelsarukthat is, all options that are something like on/off yes/no, has that icon (aprox.) and pressing PLAY or FF changes the value and the icon
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19:40:25midknight2k3uy yuy yuy
19:40:31Quelsarukre
19:40:40midknight2k3re re
19:40:57Quelsaruki'm still with the sub-menu
19:41:15midknight2k3how long will that take?
19:41:19Quelsarukmodifying the splash() function to fit that is not easy
19:41:33Quelsarukat least for me
19:41:33Quelsaruk:)
19:41:34midknight2k3must be very hard
19:41:38midknight2k3and you need widgets
19:41:42midknight2k3yeah
19:41:48midknight2k3i can very much... "relate"
19:41:57midknight2k3the archos is tired
19:42:14midknight2k3from the 80 usb plugs and unplugs last night as i tried to get the f2 and f3 play junk done
19:42:25Quelsarukhehe
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19:42:48midknight2k3took 33 tries to get F3 done, 27 more for F2 and maybe 10 for the recording screen
19:43:31midknight2k3if zagor wanted to do it i bet it would have taken 5 minutes
19:43:37midknight2k3me, 5 hours lol
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19:44:16Quelsarukthat's not too much
19:44:17Quelsaruk:)
19:44:26Quelsarukcould be worse
19:44:27midknight2k3yes it is
19:44:31midknight2k3i suppose
19:44:46midknight2k3like when i tried to get F2 and play to call a plugin
19:44:47midknight2k3lol
19:44:51midknight2k3that.. was a nightmare
19:47:36Quelsarukimagine trying to make a 5x7 check icon
19:47:44Quelsaruk:P
19:47:46midknight2k3heh
19:48:01midknight2k3can you say "supe duper hard, almost impossible"?
19:49:20Quelsaruksuper-dificil-de-la-muerte
19:49:46midknight2k3erm
19:49:48midknight2k3yes...
19:49:53midknight2k3correct...
19:50:10midknight2k3super-difficlt-day-lah-mert
19:50:26Quelsarukhe
19:50:28Quelsarukmore or less
19:50:45midknight2k3i'd say, less
19:50:50midknight2k3or more depending on how you think about it\
19:51:03midknight2k3i like to set my archos to play and watch the oscilliscope go by
19:51:22Quelsaruki can't use plugins
19:51:31Quelsaruknor even update my rockbox
19:51:33midknight2k3why not?
19:51:36midknight2k3what?
19:51:39midknight2k3boo
19:51:40Quelsaruka looong story
19:51:44midknight2k3i want to hear
19:51:45midknight2k3lol
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19:52:26Quelsaruki have my hd phisically broken, i can't plug it to the pc, it just works on the archos (is not connected to the pc)
19:52:41midknight2k3why not?
19:52:46Quelsarukdunno
19:52:49midknight2k3i mean if it works for the archos it must work for the pc
19:52:58Quelsarukit doesn't
19:53:03Quelsarukit can't spin up
19:53:36midknight2k3the battery must be powered enough
19:53:42midknight2k3but i am POSITIVE you already tried that
19:53:49Quelsaruki tried everything
19:53:52midknight2k3mine wouldnt spin up last night it was so tired
19:54:20Quelsarukpluging it using an ATA connection directly, not via USB, using a self powered USB external case..
19:54:23Quelsarukeverything
19:54:36midknight2k3wow
19:54:40midknight2k3that sucks more than anything
19:54:49Quelsarukso i used an old hd to load rockbox on flash
19:54:49midknight2k3stuck with an old version
19:55:03Quelsarukso i have rockbox but not plugins
19:55:05Quelsaruk:)
19:55:11midknight2k3oh
19:55:12midknight2k3yeah
19:55:13midknight2k3lol
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20:04:36midknight2k3i gotta idea
20:04:46midknight2k3get a new hard drive and leave it in the archos
20:04:57midknight2k3then problems are fixed
20:06:26Quelsarukbuy a new archos usb2.0 (and not my old recorder 6)
20:06:36Quelsaruki had to make some soldering
20:06:58Quelsarukand a lot of things
20:07:29midknight2k3huh?
20:07:44midknight2k3get a new 20 gig drive and pop it in the archis
20:07:47midknight2k3archos*
20:07:57midknight2k3problemo fixedo
20:07:57#>>"explain Quelsaruk" by Quelsaruk (~Swordmast@faerun.ugr.es)
20:08:09midknight2k3neat
20:08:16midknight2k3zagor is funny to explain
20:08:24midknight2k3i wish i could make him say it in the main channel
20:08:28Quelsarukas a techno priest, my archos unit suffered a lot, it's time it reaches the valhalla
20:08:40#>>"explain zagor" by Quelsaruk (~Swordmast@faerun.ugr.es)
20:09:02Quelsarukthat?
20:09:08midknight2k3anything else he can explain?
20:09:18midknight2k3i tried a few things but never got very far
20:09:23#>>"explain bagder" by Quelsaruk (~Swordmast@faerun.ugr.es)
20:09:31#>>"explain dwingo" by Quelsaruk (~Swordmast@faerun.ugr.es)
20:09:42#>>"explain dwigno" by Quelsaruk (~Swordmast@faerun.ugr.es)
20:09:47Quelsarukhumss
20:09:51midknight2k3dwinho?
20:09:51Quelsaruki forgot that nick
20:09:56Quelsarukthat's it
20:09:57Quelsarukhehe
20:09:59midknight2k3lol
20:10:03#>>"explain dwinho" by Quelsaruk (~Swordmast@faerun.ugr.es)
20:10:11Quelsarukit doesn't know
20:10:12midknight2k3he dont know
20:10:13Quelsarukumm
20:10:14midknight2k3lol
20:10:29midknight2k3explaining rockbox yields ugly stuff
20:10:31#>>"explain linusn" by Quelsaruk (~Swordmast@faerun.ugr.es)
20:10:38midknight2k3tried it
20:10:53midknight2k3i tried linusn, bagder, badger, zagor, and rockbox
20:10:59midknight2k3i tried lots more but he doesnt know
20:11:14midknight2k3badger ends up as "commonly misspelled 'bagder'
20:11:58midknight2k3i wish he could explain other stuff
20:12:17midknight2k3hrm
20:12:21midknight2k3he knows nothing
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20:12:52Quelsarukhe knows more things
20:12:56Quelsaruklet me remember...
20:13:33#>>"explain langhaarrocker" by Quelsaruk (~Swordmast@faerun.ugr.es)
20:13:51midknight2k3er
20:13:51Quelsarukfor example..
20:13:52midknight2k3lol
20:13:52Quelsarukor..
20:13:58#>>"explain oogabooga" by Quelsaruk (~Swordmast@faerun.ugr.es)
20:14:07midknight2k3hahah
20:14:13midknight2k3oogabooga
20:14:19Quelsarukand a very useful explanation
20:14:24#>>"explain ATA" by Quelsaruk (~Swordmast@faerun.ugr.es)
20:14:33#>>"explain logbot" by Quelsaruk (~Swordmast@faerun.ugr.es)
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20:14:37midknight2k3make him explain usb
20:14:44Quelsarukusb not posible
20:14:45Quelsaruk:(
20:14:51midknight2k3blah
20:15:00Quelsarukrockbox, faq, nodo, digest and 2.0
20:15:08Quelsarukthose are the other options
20:15:10midknight2k3that all works?
20:15:16#>>"explain 2.0" by Quelsaruk (~Swordmast@faerun.ugr.es)
20:15:17midknight2k3make him say it!
20:15:45Quelsaruk(i fear zagor)
20:15:55#>>"is *his* toy" by Quelsaruk (~Swordmast@faerun.ugr.es)
20:15:57Quelsaruk:P
20:16:01midknight2k3lol
20:16:04midknight2k3make him speak
20:16:05midknight2k3now\
20:18:06midknight2k3well?
20:18:22Quelsaruksorryu
20:18:27Quelsaruki was in other things
20:18:28midknight2k3lol
20:18:36midknight2k3i can always /msg him
20:18:46midknight2k3what about digest?
20:18:54#>>"explain digest" by Quelsaruk (~Swordmast@faerun.ugr.es)
20:19:02midknight2k3blah
20:19:18midknight2k3cant he explain poop or stupid?
20:19:39Quelsaruknot yet
20:19:45midknight2k3why not?
20:19:47midknight2k3he's too dumb
20:20:07Quelsarukhis AS has to learn it
20:20:17midknight2k3how can he learn it?
20:20:54midknight2k3AS = Artificial Stupidity chip?
20:21:06mIcHaelOllogbot: explain rockbox
20:21:13midknight2k3er
20:21:16midknight2k3you have to /msg him
20:21:17midknight2k3lol
20:21:25mIcHaelOllogbot: explain 2.0
20:21:29mIcHaelOllol
20:21:38midknight2k3i/MSG!!!
20:21:49midknight2k3iPUERTO MUESTA!
20:22:05***SPY: Authentication failed for Quelsaruk
20:22:05mIcHaelOlheh
20:22:06mIcHaelOl-> *logbot* explain women
20:22:06mIcHaelOl-logbot- *Shrug* I don't know
20:22:09***SPY: Authentication failed for Quelsaruk
20:22:14midknight2k3i know\
20:22:22midknight2k3he knows barely anything
20:22:33midknight2k3quelsaruk: teach him
20:22:42mIcHaelOlhow do you teach it stuff?
20:22:46midknight2k3how can i explain a word to you logobt?
20:23:02midknight2k3 -> *logbot* learn poop
20:23:04mIcHaelOlhow can i explain a word to you logbot?
20:23:50midknight2k3hes broken
20:24:12midknight2k3bagder, get in here
20:32:53CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
20:32:53*Quelsaruk looks around
20:33:08Quelsarukno, you're not a wizard
20:33:09midknight2k325 people in #rockbox?
20:33:13midknight2k3er
20:33:18midknight2k311:16:21 | <midknight2k3> bagder, get in here
20:33:19midknight2k311:25:03 | * Quelsaruk looks around
20:33:22midknight2k3ten minutes late
20:34:54Quelsaruki waited some time just to see if your cast was effective
20:35:02midknight2k3oh
20:35:08midknight2k311:25:32 | <midknight2k3> ten minutes late
20:35:08Quelsaruk:)
20:35:08midknight2k311:27:04 | <Quelsaruk> i waited some time just to see if your cast was effective
20:35:12midknight2k32 minutes late
20:35:18Quelsarukok
20:35:21Quelsaruki'm away
20:35:26midknight2k311:27:21 | <midknight2k3> 2 minutes late
20:35:26midknight2k311:27:27 | <Quelsaruk> ok
20:35:29midknight2k36 seconds late!
20:35:31QuelsarukGRRRR
20:35:32midknight2k3you can do better
20:35:40Quelsarukjust 1 second
20:35:53midknight2k3nope
20:35:57midknight2k311:27:39 | <midknight2k3> 6 seconds late!
20:35:57midknight2k311:27:41 | <Quelsaruk> GRRRR
20:36:00midknight2k32 seconds
20:36:15Quelsaruk[20:31:42] <midknight2k3> 6 seconds late!
20:36:15Quelsaruk[20:31:43] <Quelsaruk> GRRRR
20:36:22Quelsarukyour computer is too slow
20:36:25midknight2k3your irc client lies
20:36:27Quelsarukor you have some lag
20:36:32Quelsarukkvirc is perfect
20:36:33Quelsaruk:P
20:37:58midknight2k3well
20:38:03midknight2k31 second is too late
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21:00:53midk2k3sigh
21:01:36Plughhi mid
21:01:42Plughstill using dings?
21:01:43Quelsarukre
21:01:45Quelsaruk:)
21:01:56midk2k3yeah
21:01:57midk2k3lol
21:02:04Plughmidk2k3: cool
21:02:11midk2k3i was playing alex 4,too busy to listen to you make it do ding
21:02:19midk2k3midk2k3 i dont think works
21:02:33Plughmidk2k3: easier for me to type
21:02:45midk2k3just cause my old nick isnt gone yet
21:02:47Plughmidk2k3: mi<TAB>
21:02:54midk2k3cool
21:02:58midk2k3michealol it comes up with
21:02:59midk2k3midk2k3
21:03:03midk2k3mid <tab> for me
21:03:09midk2k3why does TAB work like that?
21:03:12midk2k3i dont get it
21:03:26Plughmidk2k3: mine's smart enough to know who I was talking to last. I could use m<TAB>
21:03:39midk2k3plugh: yes
21:03:47midk2k3Plugh sucks
21:03:48midk2k3cool
21:03:51midk2k3p<tab> sucks
21:04:02Quelsarukhehe
21:04:14Quelsaruknick completion miracle
21:04:16Quelsaruk:)
21:04:20Plughmidk2k3: only if you ask me nicely
21:04:25midk2k3lol
21:04:28midk2k3Quelsaruk
21:04:30midk2k3=
21:04:32midk2k3q<tab>
21:04:38midk2k3ask you nicely for what?
21:04:43Plughsuck
21:04:50Plughyou said I suck
21:04:56midk2k3never mind
21:05:05Plughyou started it
21:05:13midk2k3you continued it
21:05:18Plughof course
21:05:31midk2k3what about that otis?
21:05:34midk2k3i still want it
21:05:54Quelsarukyou are too strange for me
21:06:01midk2k3i am?
21:06:03midk2k3no way
21:07:52midk2k3plugh
21:09:59midk2k3plugh?
21:10:49Plughno otis 4 u
21:10:59midk2k3wny not?
21:12:34Quelsarukwhat the hell is otis?
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21:12:44midk2k3some crappy mp3 player
21:12:49Plughaudible.com listening device
21:12:51midk2k3fits half a book on the thing
21:12:57midk2k3it's really crappy
21:13:08Plughfull book if you add a SD card
21:13:09Quelsarukah
21:13:13midk2k3lol
21:13:15midk2k3really?
21:13:20Quelsarukwhy do you want that thing?
21:13:21midk2k3extra storage for a full book?
21:13:25midk2k3shure!
21:13:33midk2k3i want to play 50 bux for more storage
21:13:42midk2k3when an archos recorder exists
21:14:28midk2k3erm
21:14:30midk2k3i want it
21:14:31midk2k3for...
21:14:35midk2k3my "work outs"
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21:17:30Plughhis wank-outs
21:17:43midk2k3you already said that plugh
21:17:55Quelsaruk¿?
21:17:56*mIcHaelOl watches someone wank-out
21:18:03midk2k3sigh
21:18:19*mIcHaelOl also waits for mandrake 9.2 to burn
21:18:30midk2k3lol
21:19:21Quelsarukmandrake 9.2?
21:19:27midk2k3linux
21:19:28Quelsaruki don't like that distro
21:19:28midk2k3lol
21:19:33midk2k3why not
21:19:42Quelsaruki use redhat or debian
21:19:54midk2k3why not madrake?
21:19:58midk2k3i like mandrake more
21:20:00Quelsaruki installed mandrake once, and i didn't like it
21:20:15Quelsarukwas a copy of redhat distro
21:20:49mIcHaelOli was gunna use debian woody
21:21:00mIcHaelOlbut the shitty inet install cant partition my hard drive
21:21:10mIcHaelOland i just plain dislike redhat
21:21:19mIcHaelOlhas a cool boot menu but thats about it
21:21:36*mIcHaelOl uses debian on his xbox
21:22:04mIcHaelOland mandrake had the coolest install, want to see what they canged in 9.2
21:22:18mIcHaelOlwell almost best, beos i think had the best
21:22:21mIcHaelOlwith the cool screensaver
21:22:49midk2k3yeah
21:22:50midk2k3right
21:23:09*mIcHaelOl leaves to install it
21:23:16midk2k3loves or leaves?
21:23:22mIcHaelOlleaves
21:23:26 Quit mIcHaelOl ()
21:23:31midk2k3oh
21:23:32midk2k3leaves
21:23:39midk2k3plugh, can i have the otis please?
21:34:05Quelsarukcu another day
21:34:11midk2k3bye
21:34:44midk2k3yeah yeah
21:34:48midk2k3stop controling logbot
21:34:54Quelsarukme?
21:34:59midk2k3yeah lol
21:34:59Quelsarukit was not me!
21:35:03midk2k3shure
21:35:11Quelsaruk:P
21:35:14midk2k3i suppose it was logbot himself then right?
21:35:15midk2k3mm hmm
21:35:20midk2k3how do you control him?
21:35:38Quelsarukthat's what i want to know
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21:35:47midk2k3OH YEAH RIGHT!
21:37:50midk2k3you just do something like
21:38:12midk2k3 /msg logbot say goodbye Qu'el'saruk, have a nice day
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21:38:28midk2k3right
21:38:35midk2k3plugh?
21:40:27midk2k3PLUGH!
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21:47:29Plughwhat
21:47:35midk2k3i forget
21:47:36Plughcan't a man eat lunch?
21:47:40midk2k3lol
21:47:57midk2k3set your CrapIRC to beep when theres a message
21:48:02midk2k3then you can get back pronto
21:48:06midk2k3like me
21:48:14midk2k312:32:35 | <midk2k3> PLUGH!
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21:48:14midk2k312:39:38 | <Plugh> what
21:48:14midk2k312:39:42 | <midk2k3> i forget
21:48:18midk2k3big span of time
21:48:20PlughI was on the other side of the building
21:48:22midk2k3small response time
21:48:44midk2k3after waiting 8 minutes, you sya something and BAM! 4 seconds later i respond
21:48:49midk2k3thats whatcha call on top of things
21:51:52Plughyou have a beep responder set to my name? Geez, should I watch my back for stalkers?
21:51:57midk2k3nope
21:52:05midk2k3a beep responder set to EVERYTHING
21:52:09midk2k3lol
21:52:12midk2k3i stalk you
21:52:28midk2k3what a lowlife
21:52:31midk2k3only on #rockbox
21:54:40midk2k3done any patches plugh?
21:58:40Plughnot lately
21:58:47midk2k3check out my latest
21:58:49midk2k3ooh
21:58:52midk2k36 sec response
21:58:54midk2k3wow
21:58:55midk2k3ooh
21:58:57midk2k3ahh
21:59:01Plughno-lifer
21:59:03midk2k3me?
21:59:06midk2k3no lifer?
21:59:12PlughI was popping my skull candle out of its mold
21:59:29Plughgetting an early start on Halloween decorations
22:00
22:00:33midk2k3I SIT HERE, MAKING CRAPPY ALEX4 LEVELS AND MODDING THE PEAK METER REFRESH RATE, AND WATCHING THE OSCILLISCOPE ON THE ARCHOS. LOWLIFE? MOI?
22:00:44midk2k3baH!
22:00:59midk2k3skull candle out of mold? i want a picture of this
22:01:13PlughI'm turning Audible.com books into mp3s so I can listen on my FMR
22:01:24midk2k3lol
22:01:25Plughmaking candles
22:01:31Plughworking
22:01:33midk2k3i want a picture of these candles
22:01:37 Join gizz [0] (~gizz@parmentier-1-82-67-24-138.fbx.proxad.net)
22:01:40midk2k3im working too
22:01:42midk2k3heelo gizz
22:01:46midk2k3see plugh
22:01:46Plughand umm... chatting with #rockbox lowlife/no-lifes
22:01:51gizzheya mid
22:01:56midk2k3plugh hates me!
22:04:19Plughevery society needs a pariah
22:04:30midk2k312:54:03 | <midk2k3> plugh hates me!
22:04:30midk2k312:56:27 | <Plugh> every society needs a pariah
22:04:32midk2k3a bit late
22:04:46PlughI was showing off my skull candle
22:04:54midk2k3i wanta picture
22:04:59Plughbite me, pariah boy
22:05:04midk2k3pariah boy?
22:05:15midk2k3eat me, ... plugh boy
22:05:26CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
22:05:26*Plugh gets out the ketchup and salt
22:05:33midk2k3no thanks
22:05:50*Plugh sharpens up the carving knife
22:05:56midk2k3no way
22:06:07Plugh< midk2k3> eat me, ... plugh boy
22:06:12midk2k3well
22:06:18midk2k3i was.. kidding
22:06:22midk2k3no go ahead\
22:06:33midk2k3i bet i taste excellent
22:06:34midk2k3erm
22:06:39midk2k33XC3113N7
22:07:42gizzoh no, leet channek ???? :-)
22:07:47gizzchannel
22:07:58midk2k3leet is fun
22:08:06midk2k3its funner than boring old typing
22:08:42midk2k3gizz, go to #leet
22:09:00gizzno way :)
22:09:07midk2k3its nobody in there but me
22:09:08midk2k3lol
22:09:15gizzlol
22:09:34midk2k3cmon
22:09:36midk2k3plugh then
22:09:56midk2k3SOMEONE
22:10:25midk2k3i'll be back in a few
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22:29:21midk2k3yay
22:30:45midk2k3scott had fun at school?
22:31:32scott666ha!
22:33:04midk2k3i take that as "no"?
22:33:30scott666 i havnt had fun in school since about 4th grade
22:33:47midk2k3heh
22:34:00midk2k3bad schedule? stoopud classmates?
22:35:37midk2k3no?
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22:37:07midk2k3bagder!
22:37:07midk2k3yay
22:37:13Bagderhey ho
22:37:19gizzhi bagder
22:37:26midk2k3firstly, how do you explain a new word to logbot?
22:37:29midk2k3he told me to ask you
22:37:55Bagderyou add it with the proper command
22:38:04midk2k3how so
22:38:16Bagder'expadd'
22:38:23Bagderbut you need to have the status for it
22:38:30midk2k3but
22:38:33midk2k3i want to add words
22:38:36midk2k3lol
22:39:00midk2k3which status?
22:39:21BagderI don't remember
22:39:35mecrawDoes Finland actually exist?
22:39:41scott666no
22:40:03mecrawgood
22:40:24midk2k3lol
22:40:33midk2k3my new patch is here bagder
22:40:38midk2k3yay
22:40:54 Quit _seb_ (Remote closed the connection)
22:41:03midk2k3but it has a bug that needs resolving, and since the f2 and f3 will soon be changed, i highly doubt i will bother fixing it
22:43:44 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@pD9FF89E1.dip.t-dialin.net)
22:43:54midk2k3idc dragon too
22:44:12[IDC]Dragonwhat?
22:44:23midk2k3nothing
22:46:04midk2k3are you working on the "holding-on-button-to-start" issue with fmr's?
22:46:25midk2k3i need to replace mine soon but it will be suspicious if they must have to hold on to get it to boot
22:46:41[IDC]DragonNo, I don't have an FM to try.
22:47:14midk2k3you could "Try" mine
22:47:56[IDC]DragonIt would involve flashing some bootloader variations
22:48:25midk2k3with firmware_flash.rock?
22:48:30[IDC]Dragonyes
22:49:32midk2k3rats
22:50:21midk2k3well
22:50:46midk2k3hard to say
22:52:53midk2k3if it flashed wrong what would happen?
22:52:57midk2k3just "nothing"?
22:53:06midk2k3i mean, when you tried to turn it on
22:53:40[IDC]Dragonit could crash and never give you control
22:54:01[IDC]Dragonbut don't chicken, I can try something as well.
22:54:12midk2k3well
22:55:27midk2k3if this goes wrong i have no more rockbox
22:55:32midk2k3i will get a zen
22:55:34midk2k3i think
22:55:46[IDC]DragonOne experiment would be to switch on the LED fist thing.
22:55:55midk2k3they stopped shipping archos'
22:56:04midk2k3LED thing?
22:56:13[IDC]DragonThen you'd know when the bootloader starts.
22:56:25midk2k3my led goes on right away
22:56:34midk2k3right when i press the button
22:56:46midk2k3i just have to hold it to get the hard drive, display and backlight going
22:56:57[IDC]DragonIf it starts "early" (while you still have to press "on"), then I may be able to do something.
22:57:09midk2k3yeah
22:57:18midk2k3right when i press the button
22:57:25midk2k3not a millisecond later
22:57:42[IDC]DragonIf it starts late during the hold time, the software isn't started before, nothing I can do.
22:57:51midk2k3it starts right away
22:58:11midk2k3the reason you have to hold it is to get the HD going i think
22:58:14[IDC]DragonSo you get the backlight and still have to hold?
22:58:22midk2k3if you press it quick the hard drive will go clickclick
22:58:30[IDC]DragonElse it goes off again?
22:58:32midk2k3i get the green led and have to hold
22:58:38midk2k3otherwise it stops
22:58:53midk2k3if you hold it a tiny bit the hard drive spins up partially then stops again
22:59:04midk2k3the only way is to hold until it's going... like starting a car
22:59:15[IDC]DragonI see.
22:59:23midk2k3if that makes sense
22:59:49[IDC]DragonSo the boot loader has to bridge a power switch, such that you don't need to hold it.
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23:00:50midk2k3i think..
23:00:50midk2k3lol
23:01:12midk2k3basically it needs to regard a press as a hold
23:01:24midk2k3or give it more juice to get it going
23:01:46midk2k3like sometimes with the generators it's 3000W constant, 5000W surge
23:01:50[IDC]DragonOK; I try to remember that.
23:02:00midk2k3it needs some juice to get going and then it's okay
23:02:12midk2k3where holding ON is the surgew
23:02:15[IDC]DragonDon't expect a fix soon, I'm pretty busy.
23:02:17midk2k3surge*
23:02:20midk2k3heh
23:02:23midk2k3no problem
23:02:23midk2k3lol
23:02:31[IDC]Dragonmidk2k3, no, wrong track.
23:03:15[IDC]DragonIs gizz reading?
23:03:19[IDC]Dragongizz?
23:03:33midk2k3wrong track?
23:03:56[IDC]DragonI mean, no surge thing.
23:04:12midk2k3well
23:04:18midk2k3i was trying to relate it to real life
23:06:07midk2k3gizz!
23:06:33gizzyes ?
23:07:00[IDC]DragonHi gizz
23:07:01gizzhi dragon
23:07:24[IDC]DragonLately I was simulating the player firmware,
23:07:26midk2k3yay
23:07:33midk2k3i got his attn
23:07:43[IDC]Dragonwith a breakpoint on the LCD output function.
23:07:48midk2k3anyways continue
23:07:48gizzcool
23:08:03[IDC]DragonNo news,
23:08:14[IDC]Dragoni got the same init sequence.
23:08:21gizzouch
23:08:36[IDC]DragonSo this was really the first stuff being send there.
23:08:50gizzBTW, how did you sim the player ?
23:08:51 Quit edx ()
23:09:06[IDC]Dragonwith the Lauterbach software
23:09:17[IDC]DragonJust the CPU, not the peripherals.
23:09:30[IDC]DragonSo it won't go very far.
23:09:45gizzdarn, I try to use their demo, but it's very complex
23:09:54[IDC]DragonIt gets stuck when it waits for something from the outside.
23:10:03gizzok
23:10:31[IDC]DragonBut I do get as far as transmitting chars to the display.
23:11:14[IDC]Dragonfrom my breakpoints, it should say "Jukebox Ver : 5.08"
23:11:35[IDC]Dragonthen it hangs.
23:11:54[IDC]Dragonprobably waiting for the disk or something.
23:12:07gizzis it hard to simulate the cpu ?
23:12:23gizzdid you trim the firmware bin then loaded it ?
23:13:21[IDC]DragonI loaded the descrambled stuff, and to be shure also the boot ROM and the flash content
23:15:57[IDC]DragonI have an idea: I could make an endless loop after the greetmessage output.
23:16:21gizzdragon : I've to go now.. could you drop me a mail with some instructions on how to actually load fw, rom, etc in Lauterbach ???
23:16:26[IDC]DragonYou could try this software to see if you get display.
23:16:55[IDC]Dragongizz: It's a bit complex, as you said.
23:17:02gizzok no pb
23:17:11gizzso see u later guys !
23:17:23[IDC]DragonThe software sucks, I can only use it because I did at work in the past.
23:17:31midk2k3bye
23:17:34gizzbye
23:17:35[IDC]DragonAn too laze to descibe.
23:17:41[IDC]Dragonlazy.
23:17:45 Quit gizz ()
23:17:45[IDC]Dragonbye!
23:18:00midk2k3lazy* describe* and*
23:18:16[IDC]Dragongood guess.
23:18:34midk2k3i wasn't correct?
23:18:48[IDC]Dragonan to laz to type
23:19:10midk2k3an to laz?
23:19:17[IDC]Dragonand too lazy
23:19:23midk2k3right
23:19:28midk2k3and describe
23:19:36midk2k3"lazy* describe* and*"
23:19:37[IDC]Dragon:-)
23:20:02midk2k3i need to make a patch
23:21:19midk2k3at least jukebox boots in 6 seconds or so
23:24:34[IDC]DragonIs any WLAN expert around here?
23:24:59midk2k3i suppose if i don't know what "WLAN" means i'm no expert :)
23:25:02scott666does google count?
23:25:14[IDC]Dragonno
23:25:15scott666is the W for wireless?
23:25:33midk2k3"Desperate I started playing with the buttons and found the strange format
23:25:34BagderI just got my linux up on my wlan tonight
23:25:34midk2k3command. This happens If I press F3 button for a few seconds. "
23:25:46[IDC]DragonW-LAN, WiFi, 802.11g
23:25:47midk2k3F3 formats?
23:26:10BagderI have a 802.11g pci card here
23:26:58[IDC]DragonI'd like to know if there's any router you can switch to something like "passive", meaning it doesn't transmit anything when not asked.
23:27:16Bagderah
23:27:21Bagdershut it off ;-)
23:27:28[IDC]DragonI think you have to be able to set the "beacon interval" to infinity.
23:27:29Bagdernah, I don't know
23:28:07[IDC]DragonBecause I have other ISM band stuff which it would conflict with.
23:28:29Bagderhehe, so do I :-)
23:28:42Bagderbut only a phone
23:29:06midk2k3erm
23:29:31[IDC]DragonI have a wireless headphone and an A/V tranmitter.
23:29:47[IDC]Dragontransmitter*
23:30:14midk2k3bagder: do we get a scrolling peak meter?
23:30:27Bagdernot by me
23:30:38midk2k3if one was made would it be implemented?
23:30:52Bagderif people want it
23:30:56scott666how long do you think itll be before bluechip gives up?
23:31:01midk2k3who is people?
23:31:03Bagdernever
23:31:05Bagder:-)
23:31:07midk2k3gives up on what?
23:31:12scott666geting the MAS SDK
23:31:20midk2k3sdk meaning?
23:31:22midk2k3what for?
23:31:30[IDC]Dragonfunny thread
23:31:37scott666software development kit
23:31:40scott666i think
23:31:42midk2k3lol
23:31:46scott666something similar at least
23:32:31midk2k3do you think bes buy would but it that i stripped the scren on the bottom of my fmr, "looking for the battery cover because it kept locking up"?
23:32:42midk2k3best* screw*
23:33:37scott666*buy
23:33:47midk2k3oh yeah
23:34:04midk2k3"and i didn't know that holding OFF for 5 seconds would reset it"?
23:34:21scott666you could just flash the recorder image and say it doesnt work and you dont know why
23:34:45midk2k3and it won't boot by pressing on - you have to hold it "because it was defective"?
23:34:57scott666do you have a replacement plan?
23:35:01midk2k3yep
23:35:01midk2k3lol
23:35:06scott666then it doesnt matter
23:35:17scott666tell them it doesnt work right, they give you a new one
23:35:25midk2k3but there is a stripped screw and a few scratches on the sides by the little clips that hold the cover in place
23:35:30midk2k3lol
23:35:40midk2k3but they'd ask if i opened it or something
23:35:48midk2k3i'd just have to say i was looking for the battery cover
23:36:06midk2k3http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=794733&group_id=44306&atid=439120 <-anyone get that compiled?
23:36:14[IDC]DragonGoodnight!
23:36:19midk2k3night dragon
23:36:25 Quit [IDC]Dragon ()
23:39:02midk2k3so in archos firmware, holding F3 formats the drive?
23:39:20midk2k3or in rockbox or something?
23:40:03midk2k3hello?
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23:40:09Bagderhi hardeep
23:40:10midk2k3hello hardeep
23:40:16midk2k3i bet bagder to it
23:40:18midk2k3lol
23:40:21hardeepheya
23:40:36midk2k3so i dont understand this
23:40:54midk2k3the mailinglist, someone said they held F3 and it formatted the drive?
23:41:00midk2k3on archos fw or what?
23:43:52midk2k3hello?
23:44:05***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
23:44:38midk2k3sigh
23:45:14midk2k3do you people hold f2 and f3 and make changes then let go, or press f2 and f3 then make changes then press again to return?
23:47:08BagderI don't use them at all
23:47:24midk2k3oh
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