00:00:07 | midknight2k3 | ROCKBOX EXPLOITING - join in! |
00:00:29 | Zagor | no. the archives are fixed. |
00:00:36 | midknight2k3 | rats |
00:01:54 | midknight2k3 | what about mdb settings? |
00:02:34 | Zagor | what about them? |
00:02:42 | midknight2k3 | oh wait |
00:02:45 | midknight2k3 | mailinglist busted |
00:02:46 | midknight2k3 | Starting: 2003-10-01 |
00:02:46 | midknight2k3 | Ending: 2003-10-01 |
00:02:46 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midknight2k3 |
00:02:46 | midknight2k3 | Re: FMR - rest in peace Paul \ (2003-09-30) |
00:02:53 | midknight2k3 | do i see a problem here? |
00:02:57 | midknight2k3 | 2003-09-30 |
00:03:04 | midknight2k3 | starting 10-01 |
00:03:07 | midknight2k3 | explain. |
00:03:51 | Zagor | i can't be arsed |
00:06:04 | Plugh | You can bugger the bear, if you do it with care, |
00:06:04 | Plugh | in the winter, when he is asleep in his lair, |
00:06:04 | Plugh | Though I would not advise it in spring or in fall−− |
00:06:15 | Plugh | but the Zagor can never be buggered at all. |
00:06:47 | Plugh | If you're feeling quite coarse, you can bugger the horse, |
00:06:47 | Plugh | or the palfrey, the jennet, the stallion (with force), |
00:06:47 | Plugh | You can bugger the donkey, the mare, or the mule, |
00:06:49 | Plugh | Though to bugger the pony is needlessly cruel. |
00:07:02 | Plugh | You can bugger the ox (if you stand on a box) |
00:07:02 | Plugh | And vulpologists say you can bugger the fox, |
00:07:02 | Plugh | You can bugger the shrew, though it's awfully small−− |
00:07:12 | Plugh | but the Zagor cvan never be buggered at all. |
00:07:39 | midknight2k3 | nice |
00:07:40 | Zagor | lovely poem :) |
00:07:44 | midknight2k3 | did you just make that up? |
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00:07:49 | midknight2k3 | can'tve |
00:07:56 | Plugh | I dunno |
00:08:00 | Plugh | I pasted it off a site |
00:08:05 | midknight2k3 | lol |
00:08:10 | Plugh | just changed hedgehog to Zagor |
00:08:14 | midknight2k3 | you just rewrote the last sentence |
00:08:25 | | Join track1 [0] (jirc@ACBA5F31.ipt.aol.com) |
00:08:29 | midknight2k3 | it all came in one second then the last line can 10 seconds later |
00:08:36 | Plugh | yeah |
00:08:37 | midknight2k3 | came 10 seconds later * |
00:08:41 | midknight2k3 | hey tracky |
00:08:42 | Plugh | that's me typing |
00:08:47 | Plugh | ttr |
00:08:48 | midknight2k3 | 11;)7pm? thats late |
00:08:55 | midknight2k3 | 11:07* |
00:09:34 | track1 | hello |
00:10:04 | track1 | seen this mid? |
00:10:04 | track1 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439121&aid=770725 |
00:10:09 | track1 | the comment someone added |
00:11:16 | Plugh | did Zagor macro that response? :) |
00:11:36 | track1 | which one? |
00:11:39 | Zagor | yeah, i have |
00:12:22 | Plugh | oh that was mid's post |
00:12:22 | track1 | plugh heres one |
00:12:23 | Plugh | wow |
00:12:31 | track1 | :D |
00:12:32 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
00:12:34 | track1 | not mine |
00:12:35 | midknight2k3 | the only one ever |
00:12:38 | midknight2k3 | well |
00:12:40 | midknight2k3 | i made one more |
00:12:50 | midknight2k3 | "convert usb to digital out on fmr" |
00:12:56 | Plugh | I have a feature request or two, as well as a bug report |
00:12:57 | midknight2k3 | for pirating music |
00:13:03 | midknight2k3 | BUG? WHAT BUG? |
00:13:03 | Plugh | hah |
00:13:14 | Plugh | charging screen and the off key |
00:13:14 | track1 | heres a decent |
00:13:16 | track1 | request |
00:13:18 | midknight2k3 | i know that |
00:13:25 | midknight2k3 | how about "sdd" track? |
00:13:28 | midknight2k3 | i wanna see it |
00:13:30 | midknight2k3 | lol |
00:13:36 | track1 | "Make Zagor less moody" |
00:13:37 | Plugh | well, mine's kinda weird |
00:13:37 | track1 | "Rejected" |
00:13:44 | Plugh | should probably be fixed |
00:13:50 | track1 | "This is not possible to implement, due to personality limitations" |
00:14:13 | midknight2k3 | zagor: should i make a new request, "dff"? |
00:15:13 | Zagor | probably not :) |
00:15:17 | Hes | Zagor: Thanks for curl. And pass Daniel my thanks, too, please. I just ended up using it. I'm very tempted to implement multiple file FTP uploads since that's what I'm doing. |
00:15:32 | midknight2k3 | i think i will |
00:16:14 | Zagor | Hes: we've been discussing multiple concurrent transfers, but at least last we talked about it Daniel didn't think it fitted into curl's problem domain |
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00:17:38 | Hes | multiple concurrent transfers... hm, cool but, yes, outside the domain. Maybe in the domain of something that utilizes libcurl. But uploading multiple files sequentially in one go, yes? |
00:18:28 | Zagor | ah, sequentially. yeah that sounds like it would be suitable. |
00:18:53 | Zagor | but daniel is the head curl ninja |
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00:20:58 | track1 | eb |
00:20:59 | track1 | wb |
00:21:01 | midknight2k3 | time to make the dff request |
00:21:20 | Hes | Just wanted to say thanks to someone. Made solaris packages of it at work today. |
00:21:43 | Zagor | Hes: i'll take the job of accepting the thanks :) |
00:24:55 | Hes | Excellent. I'll head to bed, good night... |
00:27:24 | Zagor | night |
00:27:33 | midknight2k3 | night hes |
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00:29:12 | Plugh | mid |
00:29:22 | midknight2k3 | i made the request |
00:29:26 | Plugh | I think I found the registers for monitoring input levels |
00:29:32 | midknight2k3 | cool |
00:29:34 | Plugh | 0x0A and 0x0B |
00:29:38 | midknight2k3 | work slacer |
00:29:48 | midknight2k3 | you go to work and good off with rockbox |
00:29:52 | Plugh | yeah, I'm slacking at work |
00:29:56 | Plugh | sue me |
00:29:56 | midknight2k3 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=816170&group_id=44306&atid=439121 |
00:30:06 | midknight2k3 | zagor can shut it down if he wants |
00:30:24 | Plugh | can shut what down? |
00:30:29 | midknight2k3 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=816170&group_id=44306&atid=439121 |
00:30:31 | midknight2k3 | that ^ |
00:30:41 | Plugh | your empty feature request? |
00:30:47 | midknight2k3 | my dff one |
00:30:48 | Plugh | you want nothing from rockbox? |
00:30:51 | midknight2k3 | look closely |
00:30:55 | midknight2k3 | there is a body |
00:30:57 | midknight2k3 | "sdd" |
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00:31:03 | Zagor | we work too fast, do we? |
00:31:10 | midknight2k3 | yep |
00:31:15 | midknight2k3 | that's why sdd is there |
00:31:30 | midknight2k3 | sdd rocks |
00:31:49 | MT | can you not ban him from making feature requests? |
00:31:50 | Plugh | mid: go rock with your box |
00:31:56 | Plugh | you seem bored |
00:32:05 | midknight2k3 | shut up mt |
00:32:10 | midknight2k3 | once in a 6 months is a long time |
00:32:21 | midknight2k3 | is the vu meter better now? |
00:32:34 | Plugh | is it? |
00:32:55 | Plugh | works fine for me |
00:33:13 | midknight2k3 | you said something about 0x0d or something |
00:33:22 | Plugh | oh yeah |
00:33:28 | Plugh | I haven't implemented it yet |
00:33:32 | Plugh | just researched |
00:33:36 | midknight2k3 | will it make it better? |
00:33:51 | Plugh | it'll make it read off the microphone or line in |
00:33:57 | midknight2k3 | here's a classic request |
00:34:02 | midknight2k3 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=689196&group_id=44306&atid=439121 |
00:34:03 | Plugh | instead of the mp3 stream |
00:34:10 | midknight2k3 | i see plugh |
00:34:13 | Plugh | that's what I'm more interested in |
00:34:28 | midknight2k3 | Sender: bagder |
00:34:28 | midknight2k3 | Logged In: YES |
00:34:28 | midknight2k3 | user_id=1110 |
00:34:28 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midknight2k3 |
00:34:28 | midknight2k3 | Thanks a lot |
00:42:42 | midknight2k3 | guess what |
00:44:08 | track1 | what |
00:47:56 | | Quit k3no_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
00:50:32 | midknight2k3 | ill put sdd in rockbox |
00:50:34 | midknight2k3 | like at info |
00:50:47 | midknight2k3 | it will splash "Press PLAY" then you hit iot and it says SDD!!!! |
00:51:30 | AciD`` | gn |
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00:51:45 | Plugh | next time I ask you for your ucl file, remind me of this conversation, mid |
00:51:55 | midknight2k3 | my ucl file? |
00:52:23 | Plugh | or any firmware file |
00:53:02 | Plugh | oh, and now you can stop pestering me to publish a patch |
00:53:10 | Plugh | I've done one |
00:53:14 | midknight2k3 | YAY |
00:53:17 | midknight2k3 | is it up? |
00:54:10 | Plugh | it's on your box |
00:54:20 | midknight2k3 | the vu meter? |
00:54:31 | midknight2k3 | you rat |
00:54:33 | midknight2k3 | is not |
00:54:45 | Plugh | I patched it |
00:54:52 | Plugh | re-wrote all the logic |
00:54:54 | Plugh | ALL of it |
00:54:54 | midknight2k3 | not really |
00:54:59 | midknight2k3 | its not a rockbox part |
00:55:11 | midknight2k3 | ZAGGER! |
00:55:14 | midknight2k3 | my dff is gone! |
00:55:43 | Zagor | no shit |
00:55:52 | midknight2k3 | sorry |
00:56:18 | Plugh | he wants all his menus set up to |
00:56:19 | Plugh | dff |
00:56:20 | Plugh | dfd |
00:56:22 | Plugh | fdf |
00:56:26 | Plugh | fdd |
00:56:30 | midknight2k3 | dont forget sdd |
00:56:45 | midknight2k3 | sorry zagor |
00:56:47 | midknight2k3 | i wont do it again' |
00:57:40 | Zagor | right |
00:57:47 | midknight2k3 | seriously |
00:58:08 | midknight2k3 | he hates me now |
00:59:50 | adi|home | is midknight2k3 putting in asinine requests again? |
00:59:51 | midknight2k3 | what a dumb idea |
00:59:55 | adi|home | zagor does? |
00:59:56 | midknight2k3 | i just put in one |
00:59:58 | adi|home | i mean.. not like he didn't give you chances |
01:00 |
01:00:03 | midknight2k3 | i did it ONCE |
01:00:08 | midknight2k3 | it's TRACK that did it all day long |
01:00:14 | midknight2k3 | remmeber? |
01:00:18 | midknight2k3 | tracktheripper? |
01:00:26 | adi|home | nods |
01:00:31 | midknight2k3 | there |
01:00:36 | midknight2k3 | *claps for adi* |
01:00:42 | midknight2k3 | you got hassled by ollitrop |
01:00:59 | midknight2k3 | http://rockbox.haxx.se/irc/rockbox-20030511.txt |
01:02:38 | track1 | what the bloody hell is going on? |
01:02:50 | midknight2k3 | ollitrop hassled adi |
01:02:54 | midknight2k3 | it was hilarious |
01:03:56 | midknight2k3 | funny funny funny |
01:04:03 | | Quit mecraw (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
01:04:39 | adi|home | do you think my behavior was outta line? |
01:04:48 | midknight2k3 | not at all |
01:04:51 | midknight2k3 | it was just funny |
01:04:56 | midknight2k3 | he was nice at first |
01:05:03 | adi|home | got ya... |
01:05:04 | midknight2k3 | <ollitrop> hi is there a rockbox version for the Archos Multimedia Jukebox?? |
01:05:09 | midknight2k3 | then he got mad |
01:05:21 | midknight2k3 | ASSHOLE JERK FUCK! |
01:05:22 | adi|home | he went from uneducated to reject in 5 lines flat |
01:05:28 | midknight2k3 | lol |
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01:05:46 | adi|home | what were you doing? searching for conversations with me in it? |
01:05:52 | midknight2k3 | no |
01:05:57 | midknight2k3 | i dunno how i stumbled across it |
01:06:01 | midknight2k3 | looking for one log |
01:06:04 | midknight2k3 | i saw it |
01:06:09 | midknight2k3 | and laughed and laughed |
01:06:24 | midknight2k3 | hahaha |
01:06:27 | midknight2k3 | ollitrop |
01:06:45 | midknight2k3 | -logbot- ollitrop (rre@162.pool29.dsl8mtokyo.att.ne.jp) left the channel 4 months and 23 days ago |
01:06:47 | | Quit track1 ("Leaving") |
01:06:50 | Plugh | mid misses my harassment so he goes back over the logs to re-live past abuse |
01:07:00 | midknight2k3 | not really |
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01:07:37 | midknight2k3 | jirc@ACBA5F31.ipt.aol.com |
01:07:39 | adi|home | heheh |
01:07:41 | midknight2k3 | hello track |
01:07:56 | midknight2k3 | GOD |
01:07:58 | midknight2k3 | that was funny |
01:08:00 | midknight2k3 | i still laugh at it |
01:08:05 | reppirehtkcart | lol |
01:08:12 | reppirehtkcart | I still laught at something |
01:08:25 | midknight2k3 | 08.56.57 # <ollitrop> well thanks assfuck! |
01:08:32 | midknight2k3 | 08.57.34 # <ollitrop> try to be nice, jerk fuck |
01:08:59 | midknight2k3 | adi slowly rose |
01:09:05 | midknight2k3 | 08.58.11 Nick adi|home is now known as adiamas (~adi|home@as5300-9.216-194-23-178.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) |
01:09:13 | midknight2k3 | Nick, to Op, to Kick |
01:09:22 | midknight2k3 | 08.59.50 Join ollitrop [0] (rre@162.pool29.dsl8mtokyo.att.ne.jp) |
01:09:22 | midknight2k3 | 08.59.59 Part ollitrop |
01:09:50 | midknight2k3 | his real name is rick |
01:09:58 | midknight2k3 | http://www.pdastreet.com/boards/Zaurus/messages/2311.html |
01:10:01 | reppirehtkcart | im looking for the most famous rejected request :- |
01:10:02 | reppirehtkcart | :-) |
01:10:09 | Plugh | some people need a handfull of iron filings tossed in their computer case |
01:10:17 | midknight2k3 | shush plug |
01:10:21 | Plugh | not you |
01:10:23 | Plugh | olli |
01:10:30 | midknight2k3 | oh yeah |
01:10:32 | midknight2k3 | that funny |
01:10:39 | midknight2k3 | i can read it again and again |
01:10:57 | reppirehtkcart | remember this famous request anyone? |
01:10:57 | reppirehtkcart | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=666032&group_id=44306&atid=439121 |
01:11:05 | Plugh | I need to keep a coffee can full of iron filings around... just in case |
01:11:10 | midknight2k3 | oh yeah |
01:11:14 | Plugh | and a bag in my pocket |
01:11:17 | midknight2k3 | reach across the world and dump them |
01:11:34 | Plugh | nah. I run into people every day who don't deserve their computer |
01:11:45 | Plugh | change starts at home |
01:11:48 | midknight2k3 | like me? |
01:12:00 | reppirehtkcart | that was the only request to be adressed as "I am not even going to dignify this with consideration........" |
01:12:13 | Plugh | nah. You just get a pair of tin snips to the telephone line |
01:12:25 | midknight2k3 | remember when bagder replied "thanks a lot" and adi said "dont make me hit you" |
01:12:33 | adi|home | i can honestly say.. that guy was one of only 3 ive ever thrown out of here.. |
01:12:33 | adi|home | and he's not even banned.. was just tossed |
01:12:33 | adi|home | its sad actually.. because then he would bad mouth us.. for sure |
01:12:43 | midknight2k3 | I want him to come back |
01:12:46 | midknight2k3 | ill email em |
01:12:51 | adi|home | i mean.. damn.. theres like a full min there between going to nick/op to kick |
01:13:01 | adi|home | that sounds like my response. |
01:13:02 | reppirehtkcart | lol |
01:13:06 | reppirehtkcart | hi Adimamas |
01:13:10 | reppirehtkcart | Adiamas |
01:13:20 | midknight2k3 | plugh: LIKE ME |
01:13:24 | midknight2k3 | ????/????//// |
01:13:29 | Plugh | nah. You just get a pair of tin snips to the telephone line |
01:13:30 | midknight2k3 | dfad |
01:13:33 | adi|home | howdy reppirehtkcart |
01:13:34 | Plugh | yeesh |
01:13:35 | Plugh | read |
01:13:37 | Plugh | your |
01:13:39 | Plugh | screen |
01:13:39 | midknight2k3 | hi reppirehtkcart |
01:13:41 | Plugh | or |
01:13:43 | Plugh | I |
01:13:45 | Plugh | will |
01:13:45 | reppirehtkcart | try reading that backwards both of you |
01:13:48 | Plugh | have |
01:13:50 | Plugh | to |
01:13:50 | midknight2k3 | tracktheripper |
01:13:53 | Plugh | type |
01:13:54 | midknight2k3 | i know |
01:13:55 | Plugh | like |
01:13:58 | Plugh | this |
01:13:59 | midknight2k3 | it was obvious |
01:14:00 | Plugh | so |
01:14:02 | midknight2k3 | ok plug |
01:14:03 | Plugh | you |
01:14:05 | Plugh | can |
01:14:08 | Plugh | see |
01:14:10 | Plugh | it |
01:14:17 | midknight2k3 | i did it to you to on AIM |
01:14:22 | | Nick reppirehtkcart is now known as ttr (jirc@ACBA5F31.ipt.aol.com) |
01:14:27 | | Quit _aLF ("Client exiting") |
01:14:36 | midknight2k3 | TRAJFdalsdjfa;lkk |
01:14:36 | midknight2k3 | fapdfasj |
01:14:37 | midknight2k3 | asdfask |
01:14:39 | midknight2k3 | dkfasdlfa;lsd |
01:14:58 | midknight2k3 | dfad@@ |
01:15:52 | | Nick ttr is now known as midknyght2k3 (jirc@ACBA5F31.ipt.aol.com) |
01:15:56 | midknight2k3 | asdfalsd;fj |
01:15:57 | midknight2k3 | sd |
01:15:57 | midknight2k3 | fasd |
01:15:57 | midknight2k3 | fa |
01:15:57 | midknight2k3 | sdas |
01:15:57 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
01:15:57 | midknight2k3 | sdf |
01:15:59 | midknight2k3 | asdf |
01:16:01 | midknight2k3 | as |
01:16:03 | midknight2k3 | I DISAGREE |
01:16:17 | midknyght2k3 | ttf |
01:16:41 | Zagor | go play somewhere else, please |
01:16:47 | midknight2k3 | sorry |
01:16:50 | midknight2k3 | you hate me more |
01:16:58 | midknyght2k3 | so you should be |
01:17:16 | midknight2k3 | cant bother trying to make it up to you |
01:17:52 | midknight2k3 | stop track |
01:17:59 | midknight2k3 | just like when you were Empeethree |
01:18:03 | midknight2k3 | it was angrering me |
01:18:43 | midknyght2k3 | be nice to Zagor |
01:18:58 | | Quit top_bloke (No route to host) |
01:18:59 | midknight2k3 | i try |
01:19:02 | midknight2k3 | i can't |
01:19:03 | midknight2k3 | anymore |
01:19:06 | midknight2k3 | it wont wor |
01:19:08 | midknight2k3 | k |
01:19:30 | midknyght2k3 | well don't go flooding sourceforge plz :-) |
01:19:38 | midknight2k3 | get out TRACK |
01:19:45 | midknight2k3 | i didnt flood sourceforge |
01:20:07 | midknyght2k3 | well you beginning to :) |
01:20:21 | midknight2k3 | i ddi one request! ugh |
01:20:33 | midknyght2k3 | lol |
01:20:41 | midknyght2k3 | be nice to Zago |
01:20:41 | midknyght2k3 | r |
01:20:41 | midknight2k3 | seriously |
01:20:48 | midknight2k3 | stop track |
01:20:50 | midknight2k3 | right now |
01:21:37 | midknyght2k3 | lol lol lol |
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01:24:01 | | Nick midknyght2k3 is now known as Traxx (jirc@ACBA5F31.ipt.aol.com) |
01:24:10 | midknight2k3 | THANK YOU |
01:24:18 | Traxx | what? |
01:24:26 | midknight2k3 | for cutting that out |
01:25:02 | Traxx | why u pinking on Zagor for? |
01:25:11 | midknight2k3 | pinking? |
01:25:59 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
01:26:21 | Traxx | i think the pair of you should kiss and make up |
01:28:49 | Plugh | TONGUE! |
01:28:50 | Plugh | TONGUE! |
01:29:07 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 31 minutes and 42 seconds at the last flood |
01:29:07 | * | Plugh readies the camera |
01:30:40 | | Nick Traxx is now known as midknight2k2 (jirc@ACBA5F31.ipt.aol.com) |
01:30:48 | midknight2k3 | oh god |
01:31:51 | midknight2k2 | one of these days we will all be using the Archos firmware again |
01:31:52 | midknight2k2 | :-) |
01:33:31 | midknight2k2 | would all the out-of-date requests be removed from Source forge? |
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01:40:50 | midknight2k3 | THANK GOD |
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01:40:53 | midknight2k3 | oh great |
01:40:56 | midknight2k3 | never mind |
01:41:12 | track1 | :D |
01:45:17 | midknight2k3 | HAS NOBODY SEEN "THE CORE"?! |
01:45:22 | midknight2k3 | ANYONE? |
01:54:49 | webmind | uhm |
01:54:51 | webmind | sure but why? |
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01:55:03 | midknight2k3 | jst wondering |
01:55:16 | webmind | why the caps |
01:55:53 | midknight2k3 | nerds from #c |
01:56:48 | webmind | huh? |
01:56:56 | midknight2k3 | nothing |
01:56:58 | midknight2k3 | retards |
01:57:04 | midknight2k3 | go in there, they will go nuts |
01:57:22 | midknight2k3 | "go back to #ypn!" "let's block him" "aol user" |
01:57:40 | webmind | i know they are |
01:58:04 | midknight2k3 | its actually sorta funny |
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01:58:44 | webmind | awell |
01:58:48 | midknight2k3 | diddystar! |
01:58:50 | midknight2k3 | hey hey |
01:59:00 | diddystar5 | hey |
01:59:06 | midknight2k3 | retards in #c again |
01:59:09 | midknight2k3 | go in and say hi |
01:59:12 | midknight2k3 | they will ambush you |
01:59:46 | diddystar5 | hehe |
01:59:49 | midknight2k3 | lol |
01:59:52 | midknight2k3 | they are crazy |
01:59:55 | midknight2k3 | dont lose control |
02:00 |
02:00:09 | diddystar5 | midknight2k3: send me your vu meter changes please |
02:00:15 | midknight2k3 | okay |
02:00:20 | midknight2k3 | let me test real quick |
02:00:28 | diddystar5 | ok |
02:00:53 | midknight2k3 | 16:45:57 | <midknight2k3> hi its me |
02:00:53 | midknight2k3 | 16:45:59 | <midknight2k3> remember me |
02:00:53 | midknight2k3 | 16:46:02 | <orbitz> OMG IT'S YOU |
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02:00:53 | midknight2k3 | 16:46:09 | <orbitz> It's really yo! |
02:00:53 | midknight2k3 | 16:46:10 | <midknight2k3> the ascii guy |
02:01:09 | midknight2k3 | 16:49:01 | <lament> go back to #ypn |
02:01:09 | midknight2k3 | 16:49:03 | <orbitz> i'll just ignore you, so you don't have to |
02:01:09 | midknight2k3 | 16:49:46 | <midknight2k3> i guess nerds aren't nice |
02:01:09 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
02:01:09 | midknight2k3 | 16:49:53 | <midknight2k3> they are self-centered |
02:01:09 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
02:01:09 | midknight2k3 | 16:50:30 | <lament> self-centered, inconsistent and lazy |
02:01:09 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
02:01:09 | midknight2k3 | 16:50:32 | * idle has quit IRC (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
02:01:09 | diddystar5 | lol |
02:01:11 | midknight2k3 | 16:50:37 | <drgalaxy> yeah, at least we don't use aol |
02:01:13 | midknight2k3 | 16:50:47 | <orbitz> BAZIIIIIIING |
02:01:15 | midknight2k3 | can you say temper? |
02:01:28 | diddystar5 | lol |
02:02:10 | diddystar5 | −−- Cannot join #flood (You are banned). some idiot banned me... |
02:02:32 | midknight2k3 | holy crap |
02:02:37 | midknight2k3 | 17:01:43 | <lament> i pray for your death |
02:02:41 | midknight2k3 | what nerds |
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02:17:12 | Plugh | http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/26846 Anyone wanna count cards in Internet poker? |
02:17:42 | midknight2k3 | i will |
02:18:38 | diddystar5 | hey plugh thanks for your work on the vu meter |
02:19:02 | diddystar5 | do you have any changes that are new? |
02:19:15 | midknight2k3 | he found out how to check from the mic |
02:19:20 | midknight2k3 | for recording vu meter |
02:19:33 | diddystar5 | that kinda easy |
02:19:36 | Plugh | diddystar5: I haven't actually coded anything new |
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02:19:45 | midknight2k3 | THEN ITS NOT A PATCH |
02:19:48 | midknight2k3 | booyah |
02:19:56 | Plugh | but I found out some answers to your questions in the code comments ;) |
02:20:11 | diddystar5 | ok shoot :) |
02:20:28 | Plugh | the mas_codec calls are all documented in the data shee |
02:20:29 | Plugh | t |
02:20:49 | diddystar5 | ok ill look at that |
02:21:10 | Plugh | other than that, your big question was about if/then |
02:21:23 | Plugh | I'm sure you saw my changes. I gutted that code |
02:21:45 | Plugh | did my logic make sense to you? I'd be happy to go over it |
02:21:45 | diddystar5 | yes it's alot better |
02:21:55 | diddystar5 | i sorta understand it |
02:22:29 | Plugh | the returned value of the mas_codec call is a 15-bit value |
02:22:39 | Plugh | so I changed the range to 8FFF |
02:23:03 | diddystar5 | i tries making a plugin that shows the level read from the mas but it came out in weird charachters |
02:23:04 | Plugh | then I just did ye olde cross-multiplication of fractions |
02:23:16 | diddystar5 | cool now i get it |
02:23:19 | Plugh | it's in the debug menu |
02:23:48 | Plugh | you can see all the codec registers in the debug menu while you're playing |
02:23:52 | diddystar5 | midknight2k3: your needle covers are off a little bit |
02:23:59 | midknight2k3 | i know |
02:24:01 | diddystar5 | midknight2k3: ill fix it |
02:24:04 | midknight2k3 | i said they have to be moved |
02:24:10 | midknight2k3 | 2 pixels should do it |
02:24:28 | Plugh | I used goldwave to create white noise that ranged from -120dB to +20dB |
02:24:48 | Plugh | then saved it as an mp3 and played it back while watching the registers |
02:25:02 | diddystar5 | ohh goldwave is it free? |
02:25:15 | Plugh | yeah... kinda |
02:25:22 | diddystar5 | kinda? |
02:25:25 | Plugh | it's good for about 1500 operations |
02:25:32 | Plugh | no nagware or anything |
02:25:40 | Plugh | but after that, it breaks |
02:25:45 | midknight2k3 | hahahahhhahahhhhhhhhh' |
02:25:47 | midknight2k3 | plugh |
02:26:05 | midknight2k3 | go to #c and tell lament i said he's a loser |
02:26:07 | midknight2k3 | please |
02:26:30 | midknight2k3 | PLEASE |
02:26:31 | diddystar5 | gotta see that |
02:26:47 | midknight2k3 | tell him midknight2k3 thinks hes a loser |
02:26:54 | midknight2k3 | i cant tell him |
02:26:57 | midknight2k3 | he blocked me |
02:27:10 | Plugh | diddy: if I have to tell you about the benefits of astalavista, then please don't ask me ;) |
02:27:27 | midknight2k3 | lol plugh |
02:27:33 | midknight2k3 | great resource, altalavista |
02:27:38 | midknight2k3 | get in #c |
02:27:41 | midknight2k3 | did you see my message |
02:27:43 | midknight2k3 | go to #c and tell lament i said he's a loser |
02:27:50 | Plugh | altavista is lame compared to astalavista |
02:27:55 | midknight2k3 | lol |
02:27:59 | midknight2k3 | oh |
02:28:03 | midknight2k3 | altalavista? i said that? |
02:28:05 | midknight2k3 | oops |
02:28:09 | midknight2k3 | plugh please |
02:28:25 | Plugh | no, I'm not fighting your battles, mid |
02:28:31 | midknight2k3 | please |
02:28:39 | midknight2k3 | tell lament _I_ said he's a loser |
02:28:45 | midknight2k3 | not you |
02:28:46 | Plugh | newp. Tell him yourself |
02:28:48 | midknight2k3 | dont be afraid |
02:28:50 | midknight2k3 | he blocked me |
02:28:57 | midknight2k3 | he's a jerk nerd |
02:29:03 | midknight2k3 | set him straight |
02:29:09 | midknight2k3 | i would but he blocked me |
02:29:46 | midknight2k3 | what a jerk |
02:29:51 | midknight2k3 | cant stick up for me cause i cant |
02:29:58 | midknight2k3 | just one sentence |
02:30:11 | midknight2k3 | "midknight2k3 says lament's a loser" |
02:30:44 | diddystar5 | Plugh: would it be any optimization if i take int right_needle_top_x; and int left_needle_top_x; out of while (!PLUGIN_OK) so it dosen't have to remake that integer everytime? |
02:31:04 | Plugh | did: it might run faster |
02:31:10 | midknight2k3 | plugh..!! |
02:31:21 | midknight2k3 | oh well |
02:31:25 | midknight2k3 | diddystar can say it for me |
02:31:35 | Plugh | mid: change your nick and reconnect |
02:31:39 | Plugh | and tell him yourself |
02:31:43 | midknight2k3 | it dont work that way |
02:31:54 | midknight2k3 | i dont get why you cant |
02:32:00 | diddystar5 | i got banned from #flood it dosen't work..... |
02:32:09 | midknight2k3 | /join #c |
02:32:15 | midknight2k3 | midknight2k3 thinks laments a loser |
02:32:16 | diddystar5 | i don't know why either |
02:32:18 | midknight2k3 | then CLOSE |
02:32:22 | Plugh | 17:32 [freenode] -!- 0 - #c: ban %coolman99!*@* [by |
02:32:22 | Plugh | Rhamphoryncus!rhamph@h24-86-218-110.ed.shawcable.net, 1022555 secs ago] |
02:32:26 | Plugh | 17:32 [freenode] -!- 0 - #c: ban %axiom!*@* [by |
02:32:28 | Plugh | Rhamphoryncus!rhamph@h24-86-218-110.ed.shawcable.net, 1024649 secs ago] |
02:32:29 | midknight2k3 | you do it diddystar5 |
02:32:31 | Plugh | 17:32 [freenode] -!- 0 - #c: ban *!*@adsl-67-119-247-237.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net |
02:32:33 | Plugh | you're not banned |
02:32:34 | midknight2k3 | STOP |
02:32:36 | Plugh | [by kornbluth.freenode.net, 2537740 secs ago] |
02:32:38 | Plugh | that's the only bans in #c |
02:32:44 | midknight2k3 | not banned |
02:32:46 | midknight2k3 | ignored |
02:32:49 | midknight2k3 | blocked |
02:32:58 | Plugh | oh. change your nick and reconnect |
02:33:09 | midknight2k3 | diddystar can do it |
02:33:11 | midknight2k3 | please? |
02:33:17 | diddystar5 | Plugh: what cmd where you using to do that? |
02:33:23 | diddystar5 | *were |
02:33:31 | Plugh | I typed /mode #c b |
02:34:08 | diddystar5 | arggg −−- #flood Banlist: Sat Sep 27 21:17:25 *!*iddystar5@*.ipt.aol.com pratchett.freenode.net |
02:34:21 | midknight2k3 | hhah |
02:35:02 | diddystar5 | if i just change my aol name it should work i guess |
02:35:26 | midknight2k3 | no |
02:35:40 | midknight2k3 | he banned anything with .aol.com |
02:35:42 | midknight2k3 | well |
02:36:10 | Plugh | no, he only banned *iddystar5 |
02:36:46 | midknight2k3 | lol |
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02:38:21 | midknight2k3 | got to go |
02:38:23 | midknight2k3 | bye diddy |
02:38:26 | midknight2k3 | bye plugh |
02:38:29 | Plugh | seeya |
02:38:40 | Plugh | oh |
02:38:43 | Plugh | I found my Otis |
02:38:44 | Plugh | :) |
02:38:47 | midknight2k3 | hey! |
02:38:49 | midknight2k3 | i want that |
02:38:52 | Plugh | I know |
02:38:54 | Plugh | MINE! |
02:39:03 | Plugh | :P |
02:39:15 | diddystar5 | otis? |
02:39:17 | midknight2k3 | aw man |
02:39:18 | midknight2k3 | cmon |
02:39:27 | midknight2k3 | bye |
02:39:34 | midknight2k3 | oh wait |
02:39:43 | midknight2k3 | didnt plugh say his .. |
02:39:46 | midknight2k3 | never mind |
02:39:47 | midknight2k3 | bye |
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02:39:51 | diddystar5 | bye |
02:40:53 | Plugh | I'm using my Otis to learn Spanish right now ;) |
02:41:00 | diddystar5 | ooo |
02:41:20 | Plugh | what? You want an mp3 Spanish course? |
02:41:45 | diddystar5 | no :) |
02:42:49 | Plugh | once I get the basics of Spanish, I'll probably bone up on my French and German, then look into something more exotic, like Mandarin Chinese or Japanese |
02:43:13 | diddystar5 | what do you think needs to be done to make the vu meter work more correctly? |
02:43:29 | Plugh | well, I have some ideas |
02:43:48 | Plugh | I want to scale it to log instead of linear |
02:44:08 | diddystar5 | scale to log? |
02:44:22 | Plugh | dB is logarithmic |
02:44:29 | diddystar5 | ooo |
02:44:38 | diddystar5 | i have some ideas now also! |
02:44:40 | Plugh | you get a lot of swing at low volume and less at high volume |
02:45:02 | Plugh | I also want to mark 0dB and tick off dB from there |
02:45:07 | Plugh | + and - |
02:45:27 | Plugh | but the important part is finding 0dB |
02:46:38 | Plugh | another thing would be a numeric readout above the meters |
02:47:13 | Plugh | my aim is to make this into a volume meter |
02:47:39 | Plugh | I want to be able to take it to a party and find out how loud the sound engineers are running their equipment |
02:48:03 | diddystar5 | :) |
02:48:06 | diddystar5 | gotta go |
02:48:10 | diddystar5 | see ya plugh |
02:48:10 | Plugh | it'll help me determine what earplugs are appropriate and how long I should be able to spend in the zone |
02:48:15 | Plugh | okay. seeya around |
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02:48:34 | ze | heh |
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02:48:53 | ze | i want a meter too, but one that measures deviation from probability in a stream of unobserved true random data |
02:49:12 | ze | a realtime "improbability meter" so to speak |
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02:49:39 | ze | and by unobserved i mean priorly |
02:50:01 | ze | it could be taken in realtime from a TRNG or it could just be a pre-recorded but unobserved stream |
02:50:07 | Plugh | what would be the benefit? |
02:50:21 | Plugh | I'm not seeing the practical application |
02:50:22 | Plugh | ;) |
02:50:24 | ze | hehe |
02:50:36 | ze | well didn't you hear about the global consciousness project at princeton? |
02:50:51 | Plugh | I'm aware of Project Mind |
02:50:54 | ze | they've got a bunch of hardware TRNG's all over the world that they monitor and anylize different ways |
02:51:26 | ze | and 9/11 2001, there was a big corelated increase in deviation from probability on all of them, spiking around the time of the attacks |
02:51:30 | Plugh | hmm. You thing the archos can acquire measurable data? |
02:52:09 | ze | http://noosphere.princeton.edu/terror.html |
02:52:15 | Plugh | I assume you're talking about using the condenser mic to gather data? |
02:52:30 | ze | oh i wasn't even thinking about an archos |
02:52:44 | ze | i suppose an archos could do it too if it can do the necessary processing fast enough |
02:53:10 | ze | technically you don't even need to have your own TRNG |
02:53:20 | ze | you can get a file of random data from like hotbits or such |
02:53:51 | ze | apparently as long as it's unobserved it can still act like it's realtime |
02:54:45 | Plugh | sounds a little crackpot to me |
02:55:05 | ze | i think it's because of the randomness of when and by who the data'll be observed... and you know, untill you've observed the whole stream there's still 2 to the power of the number of digits number of possible streams it could be |
02:55:26 | ze | iirc |
02:55:26 | ze | hehe |
02:56:05 | ze | check out the retropsychokinesis project at fourmilab |
02:56:41 | ze | i got a number of runs on there java applets where i was definately influencing the random data |
02:56:53 | ze | getting into a state of mind i found playing the dice game 10,000 with my parents |
02:57:33 | ze | where on 2 distantly seperate (but consecutive) occasions i totally dominated the game, getting insane rolls one after another while nobody else was getting any |
02:57:35 | Plugh | you want crazy? I once mind controlled my 10 disc CD changer in my car |
02:57:44 | Plugh | for 5 songs straight |
02:57:47 | ze | hehe |
02:57:53 | Plugh | then I got a headache and it broke off |
02:58:15 | Plugh | but the global consciousness project still seems a bit crackpot |
02:58:17 | ze | chaos is easy to influence if you get the right state of mind for it |
02:58:31 | ze | Plugh: well look into it |
02:58:43 | Plugh | I believe in the ability of the human mind to influence otherwise random events |
02:58:47 | ze | it's not like there's any lack of data or information on the methods and etc |
02:59:13 | Plugh | but I think trying to quantify and measure it is futile |
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02:59:20 | midknight2k3 | hi |
02:59:35 | Plugh | sheesh. I thought I was safe |
02:59:39 | midknight2k3 | fine |
02:59:41 | Plugh | with my Otis |
02:59:43 | midknight2k3 | i'll leav |
02:59:43 | Plugh | ;) |
02:59:44 | ze | and the idea of global consciousness is of course just their premise heh |
02:59:51 | ze | Plugh: well i don't think it's necessarily futile |
02:59:51 | midknight2k3 | ze: got a zen? |
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03:00:10 | midknight2k3 | right |
03:00:14 | ze | Plugh: it just requires an appropriate approach |
03:00:14 | Plugh | ze: anything can be measured after the fact |
03:00:21 | midknight2k3 | what are the sound settings? |
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03:00:46 | ze | midknight2k3: you can find that info on the web |
03:01:06 | midknight2k3 | did you get a picture of the menus? |
03:01:14 | midknight2k3 | give me a link then ze if youre so smart |
03:01:21 | ze | Plugh: still, i think it's useful to gather the evidence, acknowledge the effects, and such |
03:01:24 | ze | midknight2k3: google.com |
03:01:43 | Plugh | ze: I find it better to live in the moment and effect change, but I don't believe in quantifying the change, or even attempting to record it |
03:01:56 | Plugh | I can acknowledge the effect |
03:02:02 | ze | Plugh: well thats you |
03:02:04 | ze | and thats fine |
03:02:04 | midknight2k3 | ze: google.com brings me to a search engine |
03:02:08 | midknight2k3 | i see no info on the zen |
03:02:11 | ze | midknight2k3: indeed |
03:02:21 | midknight2k3 | ze + n = zen |
03:02:33 | Plugh | ze: I'm a practicing witch. I'm well aware of manifesting change through intent |
03:02:40 | midknight2k3 | shh plugh |
03:02:45 | Plugh | what |
03:02:48 | ze | maybe i should rewrite the I_AM_TOO_LAME_TO_USE_A_SEARCH_ENGINE.HOWTO |
03:02:50 | midknight2k3 | when did plugh come around anyways |
03:02:57 | midknight2k3 | calm down ze |
03:02:57 | Plugh | umm |
03:03:00 | ze | Plugh: nifty.. i dabbled in magick in highschool |
03:03:01 | Plugh | when I found rockbox |
03:03:05 | midknight2k3 | haha |
03:03:11 | midknight2k3 | used the archos firmwar for a while |
03:03:21 | midknight2k3 | i was afraid to install rockobgx |
03:03:25 | midknight2k3 | i was afraid to install rockbox* |
03:04:05 | Plugh | ze: so you understand visualization of intent and how it can manifest change |
03:04:15 | midknight2k3 | fagafa |
03:04:17 | Plugh | this project is trying to measure that. |
03:04:21 | ze | well yeah |
03:04:32 | ze | but i found witchcraft to be a little primitive and distant from it's own source |
03:04:36 | Plugh | for me, that's kinda like measuring how much I pee |
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03:04:59 | midknight2k3 | hji thu |
03:05:01 | midknight2k3 | hi thu* |
03:05:02 | Plugh | ze: I guess you went for the structured approach rather than the intuitive path |
03:05:09 | ze | personally i have a deep interest in both science and spirituality, and i don't seem them as mutually exclusive |
03:05:15 | thu | hello |
03:05:19 | Plugh | hi thu |
03:05:56 | ze | oh i dunno if i'd say that really, Plugh |
03:06:10 | ze | structured approach... hehe not really |
03:06:26 | ze | i just didn't see magick as reaching the true potential of it's power |
03:06:56 | ze | i guess |
03:07:10 | ze | *shrug* it just always seemed to me like it's |
03:07:20 | ze | i dunno how to articulate it exactly |
03:07:28 | Plugh | ze: it's hard to focus the energy when you're going through puberty ;) |
03:07:53 | ze | i guess sortof like alchemy is to chemistry, but the connotations of that statement still doesn't reflect it well |
03:07:56 | Plugh | considering you were in high school when you were dabbling |
03:08:41 | ze | *shrug* |
03:08:42 | Plugh | I got out of the study and decided instead to live a magickal life. Everything I think and do is with specific intent |
03:09:00 | ze | it just all seemed rather roundabout |
03:09:03 | Plugh | it was a total shift of power at that point |
03:09:35 | Plugh | any structure makes it roundabout |
03:09:44 | ze | that the practices and methods were a little convoluted |
03:10:02 | Plugh | because you're trying to incorporate what works for someone else into your life |
03:10:19 | Plugh | that's what I find ridiculous about religion |
03:10:36 | midknight2k3 | okay! okay! |
03:10:47 | ze | that is true |
03:11:00 | ze | i only used my studies as a general guideline |
03:11:07 | Plugh | but there is power in religion. When you have a lot of people focused on one thing, it empowers that thing |
03:11:15 | Plugh | q.v. Sep. 11 |
03:11:34 | ze | i liked candle spells, but i did write my own |
03:12:03 | Plugh | the candle just becomes a focus |
03:12:07 | ze | right |
03:12:26 | Plugh | if everything you do and think is focused on the same thing, it will manifest |
03:12:30 | ze | all the ritual and everything else just acts to foster certain states of mind and focus |
03:13:11 | ze | thats exactly why i got out of it, because i stopped seeing the need for all the bells and whistles and abstractions |
03:13:48 | ze | now as to why i didn't really continue so much from there, i dunno |
03:13:56 | Plugh | that is the shift from religion to spirituality |
03:14:25 | ze | though i can't really say that it's been a loss, i've still learned a lot since |
03:14:55 | Plugh | realizing that all the claptrap is just that, and that you can achieve the same results without it |
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03:15:24 | ze | so why do you call yourself a witch? |
03:15:28 | Plugh | in some cases, the claptrap serves more to hold me back than to allow me to move forward |
03:15:53 | ze | for me that brings up ideas of wicca and ritual and all that |
03:17:08 | Plugh | well, I'm not Christian, Jewish, or Muslim, or Buddhist or Taoist... |
03:17:27 | ze | symbols are useful though... association between states of mind and symbols... and ritual is just a strong spatio-temporal symbol... but what i realized is that it can be all internal and "cleaner" |
03:17:41 | Plugh | that leaves little else than this lumped-together "pagan" label |
03:17:51 | ze | heh |
03:18:13 | ze | personally i try to avoid labels |
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03:18:28 | Plugh | more people understand "witch" than solo non-religious spiritualist |
03:18:29 | ze | some things can't be named without losing essential elements |
03:18:30 | midknight2k3 | hi scott |
03:18:46 | scott666 | hey |
03:18:50 | ze | philosophical and spiritual things in particular |
03:18:53 | Plugh | so it's an effective label for me |
03:19:22 | ze | if somebody wants a label, i can say spiritual, or i can say god... |
03:20:08 | ze | most people still don't appreciate a person being their own god though, for some crazy reason :p |
03:20:17 | Plugh | also, I have a patron pantheon. Though I don't worship them or call upon them for favor. |
03:20:37 | Plugh | it's just a way that I bond with my ancestry |
03:20:42 | ze | heh |
03:21:45 | Plugh | I've studied the ways of my ancestors, and truth be told, they were barbaric by my sensibilities |
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03:22:05 | * | Plugh is a Gael |
03:22:18 | ze | heh |
03:22:35 | ze | by my sensibilities this current "civilization" is barbaric |
03:22:44 | Plugh | but they're still a cool People. And I'm proud of my ancestry |
03:22:50 | Plugh | well yeah. That too |
03:23:12 | Plugh | in some ways, the Gaels had it "more right" than the current administration |
03:23:30 | ze | at least people used to know how to live with nature |
03:23:48 | ze | but dinner's here |
03:23:53 | Plugh | they also knew how to work with their neighbors |
03:23:53 | ze | nice talking... bbl |
03:23:58 | ze | yeah |
03:24:01 | Plugh | even if it meand a head thwapping |
03:24:09 | ze | heh |
03:24:10 | Plugh | meant |
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05:08:32 | diddystar5 | have you made any changes to the VU meter? |
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18:46:44 | hardeep | heya Zagor |
18:46:49 | Zagor | hi |
18:49:38 | Zagor | have you looked at the bookmark patch, hardeep? it modifies the playlist code a bit. i'd like your opinion on that. |
18:52:33 | hardeep | Zagor: Yeah, Henrik and I made the playlist changes. Just a few counters to identify when a playlist has been modified so we can disable bookmarking. |
18:54:37 | Zagor | ok, good. |
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21:22:50 | Zagor | yo bagder |
21:22:56 | Bagder | hey |
21:22:58 | Lear | If, when I turn on my Archos, only hear a faint "stuttering" from the HD, it's pretty much hosed, isn't it? |
21:24:07 | Zagor | Lear: unless you've simply got power problems |
21:24:35 | Zagor | Bagder: did you make any substantial changes to the bookmark patch when you were looking at it? i'm working on it now. |
21:24:45 | Bagder | I didn't |
21:24:55 | Bagder | not that I can recall anyway |
21:25:13 | Lear | Zagor: I thought about that, but I'm not sure how to check... The batteries are fresh at least... |
21:25:43 | Zagor | ok, good :) |
21:26:05 | Zagor | Lear: try stretching the battery springs. a long shot, but worth a try... |
21:29:47 | Lear | Zagor: The battery "fit" is pretty snug. I even tried with the charger plugged, to no avail. Worth observing is that I accidentally dropped the Archos before I noticed any problem... |
21:31:07 | Zagor | Lear: ok. sounds like it could be a harware problem then. either in the archos or in the drive. either way you'll have to open up the unit to find out. |
21:32:45 | Lear | Zagor: My thought exactly, so I've removed the covers so far. While doing that, I noticed the smell, which didn't seem quite right... |
21:33:13 | Zagor | ooouch... |
21:34:26 | Lear | Regarding those solders that need to be removed (better get something to remove them with; I have a solder "iron", but nothing to really remove solder with), are they needed for operation or are they just to keep the PCBs in place? |
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21:34:44 | Zagor | they just keep the pcb in place |
21:34:48 | elinenbe | hardeep: with all this talk about your patch, have you done any more work on it? :-) |
21:35:06 | Zagor | he just uploaded a new version, adapted to current cvs |
21:35:35 | elinenbe | Zagor: there are no new changes in it though... |
21:35:42 | elinenbe | I like new features :-) |
21:37:44 | Zagor | :) |
21:37:46 | hardeep | elinenbe: no changes yet |
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21:56:50 | Traxx | hello |
21:57:33 | Traxx | hello Zagor and Bagder and everyone else |
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22:32:20 | webmind_ | oi |
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22:45:30 | track | hey webmind |
22:46:17 | dsg | Finally got my Recorder today. MP3y goodness. |
22:49:20 | track | cool!! |
22:49:22 | track | what recorder is it? |
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22:55:24 | dsg | track: USB2.0 version, 20GB disk. |
22:55:37 | dsg | non-FM. |
22:55:45 | dsg | Just flashed it ;) |
22:55:59 | dsg | Seems to be working well (with daily snapshot since yesterday). |
22:56:28 | webmind_ | ej dsg |
22:56:37 | webmind_ | dsg, nice |
22:57:24 | dsg | webmind_: Very. |
22:57:37 | dsg | But one thing... |
22:57:42 | dsg | Bought it from alternate. |
22:57:48 | dsg | It had stuff on the HD when I got it. |
22:57:52 | Plugh | is it the FMR look or the replaceable battery look? |
22:58:03 | dsg | Plugh: Hmh... what's the difference? |
22:58:27 | dsg | Batteries weren't difficult to replace... just pop the sides off (don't need to unscrew anything) and pull out batteries. |
22:58:41 | * | webmind_ doesnt understand why people sell t-shirts for 25 euro |
22:58:50 | webmind_ | dsg, dodgy |
22:58:50 | dsg | (Did that first thing, put in four 2000mAh GP batteries). |
22:58:56 | webmind_ | dsg, what ? |
22:59:06 | dsg | webmind_: What what? :) |
22:59:10 | webmind_ | dsg, most be an upgrade |
22:59:14 | webmind_ | dsg, what was on the disk ? |
22:59:20 | track | i don't see the need of flashing the archos |
22:59:39 | dsg | webmind_: Dunno. It has black squares in the corners... |
22:59:43 | dsg | track: Much faster boot. |
22:59:51 | dsg | *very* fast. |
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23:00:04 | dsg | Old one was annoyingly slow IMHO. |
23:00:05 | track | I have an older recorder so I can't flash it anyway |
23:00:06 | Plugh | dsg: okay. Now I know |
23:00:24 | dsg | Plugh: Was that the "replaceable battery look"? |
23:00:26 | webmind_ | dsg, on the DISK ? |
23:00:32 | track | my Archos is more than a year old now |
23:00:36 | dsg | webmind_: What? No, on the recorder :) |
23:00:40 | dsg | webmind_: On the disk... |
23:00:49 | dsg | A few MP3s (maybe 5-6) |
23:00:55 | track | dsg what make of harddisk does your archos use? |
23:01:10 | dsg | And (the strange part) a text file with an email address (doesn't look official). |
23:01:27 | dsg | track: wait (think it was toshiba, have to check again though). |
23:01:36 | Plugh | dsg: yours |
23:01:40 | track | mine uses the Hitachi hard drive |
23:01:44 | webmind_ | dsg, dodgy |
23:01:47 | Plugh | mine has a non-removeable battery |
23:02:04 | track | whats wrong with the Toshiba drives? |
23:02:11 | dsg | No, hitachi. |
23:02:16 | dsg | Mine has a hitachi. |
23:02:21 | track | yea mine uses the hitachi as well |
23:02:24 | dsg | track: Nothing. But there was stuff on it when I got the player. |
23:02:33 | track | oh right |
23:02:48 | track | I don't think Archoes are unreliable |
23:03:00 | dsg | I'm guessing someone had his replaced or something and had used it. |
23:03:03 | track | Mine has been undergoing heavy use every day for more than a year and it never complained |
23:03:04 | dsg | Dunno though. |
23:03:13 | dsg | track: Nice. |
23:03:31 | track | I like the fact it has SPDIF in/out and its NON sdmi compliant |
23:04:21 | track | u use a standard Y-cable to use the SPDIF? |
23:04:50 | dsg | track: I haven't used it yet. |
23:05:05 | track | oh right |
23:05:05 | dsg | Don't have any SPDIF equipment anyway... |
23:05:13 | track | did you still get a Y-cable thrown in? |
23:05:49 | dsg | I don't think so... |
23:06:01 | dsg | Ah... wait... what type of Y-cable? |
23:06:23 | dsg | I got a standard mini-jack to dual-RCA (at least, that's what I assumed it was). |
23:06:29 | dsg | But maybe it was SPDIF stuff. |
23:06:30 | track | yea |
23:06:53 | track | mine has the 3.5mm plug at one end and the red/white RCA plugs at the other end |
23:07:03 | dsg | Yeah, that's the one. |
23:07:06 | dsg | I got one with it. |
23:07:09 | track | its called a Y-cable because of its shape |
23:07:20 | track | obviously |
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23:08:01 | track | One cable that is worth having is the type with the 3.5mm plug on BOTH ends |
23:08:27 | webmind_ | true |
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23:08:36 | dsg | track: Oh, yes. |
23:08:42 | track | I have one |
23:08:45 | webmind | good quality headphones are usefull aswell |
23:08:54 | track | I use it to record digital data from my sound card |
23:08:58 | dsg | Going to buy one tomorrow −− the crappy stereo system at my house only has mic in (minijack) |
23:09:17 | webmind | for 20 euro ya got a decent sehnheiser |
23:09:33 | track | I spend £35 on top-of-the-range Sonys |
23:09:40 | track | the sound quality is awesome |
23:09:48 | dsg | webmind: I have a good Sennheiser (cost quite a bit more than 20euro though). |
23:09:56 | track | :-) |
23:10:03 | track | at least midknight2k3 isn't here |
23:10:12 | track | hes becoming a right nuisance these days |
23:10:17 | webmind | track, sehnheiser is the top brand |
23:10:20 | dsg | But that's really for home use... it's big :) |
23:10:26 | track | yea |
23:10:37 | track | Grados are also high-quality |
23:10:41 | dsg | I like the design of the headphones that came with the archos for travelling... compact. |
23:11:05 | dsg | Still have to find a type of compact travel headphones with good quality... but don't think that'll happen. |
23:11:36 | track | dsg I also have a car MP3 player |
23:11:52 | webmind | dsg, one i got are rather compact |
23:12:02 | webmind | like the archos ones.. but non-voldable |
23:12:27 | track | DSG have you had other brands of MP3 player apart from Archos? |
23:12:33 | dsg | webmind: Yeah... but I really like the folding part. |
23:12:42 | dsg | Otherwise it wouldn't fit in my pocket :/ |
23:12:50 | webmind | dsg, its nice.. but its not that good for the cable |
23:12:50 | dsg | track: I have one other, but it's old. |
23:13:01 | dsg | Creative Nomad II (SmartMedia flash-based player). |
23:13:02 | track | :-) |
23:13:08 | track | heres my timeline |
23:13:15 | dsg | 64MB smartmedia card. |
23:13:21 | track | my First player was a Riovolt MP3-CD portable |
23:13:26 | track | then I had a Creative Labs Nomad |
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23:13:33 | track | now I have an Archos |
23:13:37 | dsg | track: ;) |
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23:13:44 | dsg | track: The original nomad then? |
23:13:50 | track | yea |
23:13:54 | track | the 6Gb version |
23:14:22 | dsg | Actually I have to admit... as annoying as the NomadII was, having looked at the internals, it looks nicely hackable (no MP3 decoder chip, just a StrongARM chip). |
23:14:26 | dsg | track: ah, Nomad Jukebox then? |
23:14:32 | track | Battery life was plain bad on the Nomad |
23:14:41 | track | yea |
23:14:45 | dsg | Original nomad was a SmartMedia-based player as well... |
23:14:53 | track | yea |
23:14:54 | dsg | Then came nomadII, then nomadIIC, then Jukebox. |
23:14:55 | * | webmind still wants to twak his archos form CF usage :) |
23:15:08 | dsg | webmind: That would be neat. |
23:15:09 | track | the Nomad uses a software-programmable chip |
23:15:20 | track | so it could be programmed to play whatever you want |
23:15:25 | dsg | Some very neat hacks on rockbox page actually. |
23:15:29 | dsg | track: Ah, nice. |
23:15:35 | webmind | dsg, requires hardware ods ofcoz |
23:15:37 | dsg | track: Maybe also a strongARM? |
23:15:40 | track | if only the chip in the Archos is programmable as well |
23:15:42 | dsg | webmind: Obviously :) |
23:15:47 | track | yea I think so |
23:16:01 | track | but the chip in the Archos is hard-wired to play MP3 and only MP3 |
23:16:10 | webmind | uhuh |
23:16:22 | webmind | u could ofcourse replace that chip :) |
23:16:29 | dsg | Yeah. Well, it can take a new firmware (according to specsheet), but good luck writing anything useful in 100 words (of 20 bits). |
23:16:38 | track | lol |
23:16:41 | dsg | 1000 words excuse me. |
23:16:48 | track | i hate WMA |
23:16:55 | dsg | Actually I think it's 4000 words for the chips in the recorders. |
23:17:09 | track | WMA sounds like a badly-recorded Dolby cassette |
23:17:28 | dsg | But still... only thing I'd like to put on that chip would be ogg decoders... and no way in hell it'd fit :) |
23:17:34 | dsg | track: It is horrible, yes. |
23:17:34 | track | lol |
23:17:42 | track | u know what im saying |
23:17:51 | dsg | Yeah. |
23:17:53 | track | with the coarse, warbly treble present in WMA fileS? |
23:18:26 | dsg | nomadii got firmware upgrade to support WMA ("BETTER COMPRESSION!" they said). I tried it once. And never again. :) |
23:18:40 | dsg | track: Yeah. Horrible, flat sound. |
23:18:52 | track | dsg a 2Mb VBR MP3 will wipe the floor with a 2Mb 64kbs WMA |
23:19:16 | track | dsg listen to this |
23:19:29 | track | U wanna know what kind of music Microsoft always uses to promote its MP3? |
23:19:31 | track | sorry WMA? |
23:19:41 | dsg | Sure. |
23:20:19 | track | All Microsoft uses is boring gentle jazz music since its the only kind of music that sounds good with WMA |
23:20:32 | dsg | Heheh :) |
23:20:59 | dsg | Probably hiphop as well? (often very simple bassline and such... seen it used as promo for a few codecs). |
23:21:18 | track | like I said even a VBR MP3 on the lowest quality setting will sound miles better than a WMA |
23:21:45 | track | dsg I have to restart my PC im downloading updates |
23:21:49 | track | Ill be back on in a moment |
23:21:51 | track | :-) |
23:22:01 | dsg | btw.. |
23:22:10 | track | ill see u in a bit |
23:22:14 | dsg | Mkay. |
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23:22:27 | dsg | But for others active.. how fast is your USB connection to the archos? |
23:22:49 | dsg | Because mine is *SLOW*. |
23:23:20 | dsg | It's USB1, but still... shit, it's slow. |
23:23:40 | dsg | /dev/sda: |
23:23:48 | dsg | Timing buffer-cache reads: 472 MB in 2.01 seconds = 234.83 MB/sec |
23:23:52 | dsg | Timing buffered disk reads: 2 MB in 3.32 seconds = 616.87 kB/sec |
23:24:18 | dsg | Disk read speed rocks from ~600kB-1MB per second. |
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23:25:44 | webmind | dsg, did u enab le usb2 support in the kernel |
23:25:52 | track | hi :-) |
23:25:53 | webmind | cos afaik its still experimental |
23:26:07 | dsg | webmind: Don't have USB2. |
23:26:08 | webmind | dsg, ah.. usb2 is that slow yes |
23:26:12 | webmind | er |
23:26:13 | webmind | usb2 |
23:26:15 | webmind | ARG |
23:26:16 | webmind | usb1 |
23:26:19 | dsg | webmind: Really? |
23:26:25 | dsg | I knew it was slow... but shit. |
23:26:30 | track | hey Dsg |
23:26:34 | track | and webmind :-) |
23:26:44 | webmind | ej track |
23:26:48 | webmind | dsg, uhuh |
23:26:56 | webmind | dsg, enough to play movies from though |
23:27:03 | dsg | webmind: Could you time yours for me? |
23:27:14 | webmind | dsg, dont try to more then one transfer either :) |
23:27:19 | track | Hah!! |
23:27:21 | webmind | at a time that is |
23:27:26 | track | WMA VBR is available! |
23:27:43 | dsg | Because I'm wondering about this disk (the player gives off clicking sounds when disk is being accessed... but doesn't sound like the click-of-death still. |
23:27:49 | dsg | Just low clicking sounds. |
23:27:51 | dsg | track: lol... |
23:28:09 | dsg | track: Probably as good as the early VBR in MP3 encoders. |
23:28:12 | track | and the best one, WMA Lossless!!! |
23:28:32 | webmind | dsg, u might want to bug alternate for selling you a used device |
23:28:52 | dsg | webmind: Going to send an email asking... |
23:29:11 | dsg | But prefer not going again if I can avoid it (went and picked it up in person... looong trip). |
23:29:39 | webmind | uhuh |
23:29:51 | webmind | and hard to get there by pblic transportu |
23:30:05 | dsg | Yeah. |
23:30:24 | dsg | Train ticket to rotterdam expensive, bus to ridderkerk, and some walking. |
23:30:36 | dsg | Ridderkerk seems to be the only place in .nl where people don't speak english btw. |
23:30:42 | dsg | It's weird. |
23:31:24 | webmind | lol |
23:32:09 | dsg | Probably asked five people and none of them spoke english. |
23:32:24 | dsg | Then I found a street map on a sign. |
23:32:30 | dsg | Which helped. |
23:37:16 | dsg | ahah... |
23:37:18 | dsg | ahahahh |
23:37:21 | dsg | AHAHAHAHAHHAAHA |
23:37:24 | dsg | Okay. |
23:37:31 | dsg | I just looked at the files on the disk better. |
23:38:04 | dsg | There's music on it where the "artist" ID3 tag matches the mail address in the text file. |
23:38:11 | dsg | Maybe homemade music? :) |
23:38:44 | webmind | dsg, hm i just called them and said.. where are you :) |
23:39:20 | dsg | webmind: Eh? |
23:39:24 | dsg | Ah. |
23:39:26 | webmind | alternate ppl |
23:39:31 | webmind | the shop |
23:39:32 | dsg | Yeah, I got address from the web site.. |
23:40:01 | dsg | But then I took another bus thinking I'd just walk the rest of the way (it was a long wait for the right bus). |
23:40:46 | webmind | i know |
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23:42:03 | midknight2k3 | hi track |
23:43:44 | dsg | webmind: But do you know any way to make the USB disk more responsive (if I'm copying a file, and try to do something else on the disk −− like getting free space or such), it blocks for a long while before returning. |
23:44:42 | webmind | dsg, as i said.. dont try more then 1 action at a time :) |
23:45:14 | webmind | dont know a solution |
23:45:25 | dsg | webmind: Well yeah, but I'd just like to get better balance between transfers. |
23:45:28 | dsg | Mkay. |
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