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#rockbox log for 2003-11-03

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00:27:01Doggerhey anyone there?
00:47:49LinusNi'm here
00:47:56Doggerhey
00:48:02LinusNlegal trouble? :-)
00:48:06Doggernah
00:48:12Doggerjust had a eurika moment
00:48:21DoggerI have completed the packer and unpacker
00:48:21LinusNcompression cracked
00:48:24Doggeryep
00:48:25Doggerall done
00:48:31LinusNcoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
00:48:36Doggersome pretty interesting stuff in there ;)
00:48:41LinusNhow?
00:48:50Doggerhow did I do it?
00:48:58LinusNno, how interesting?
00:49:04Doggerah
00:49:13Doggerdirect chat me
00:49:19Doggerdunno how on here
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01:39:44trackwhat does thje ch8 imulator do?
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01:52:54top_blokedoes compling rockbox need a lot of hard disk space?
01:54:08top_blokecause i tried to do it on my old pc and it ran out of space
01:55:59top_blokeit was during scramble of ajbrec.ajz
01:56:11top_blokeno one here i guess
01:56:27zewell damn thats like about the last step
01:56:28zeheh
01:56:42zeit doesn't take much space, your disk must be really full
01:56:43top_blokeyeah i know
01:56:51top_bloke300 mb left?
01:57:00zehah
01:57:18top_blokeits not that full considering its a 1.2 gb drive
01:57:34top_blokeit ran out to 0.0mb
01:57:42zei've got like 4 different copies of the tree at various stages of compiled and misc other stuff with it
01:57:46top_blokeand the swap file in windows was 300 mb
01:57:49zeall totalling 19MB
01:58:03top_bloke?
01:58:04zeso uh 300mb free should be plenty i think
01:58:05zeheh
01:58:13top_blokeok
01:58:37top_blokethen i tried to delete the swap file
01:58:47top_blokelol like thats gonna work
01:58:55zemine're all old, it's probably gotten a bit bigger by now, but my last source tree + compiled stuff is 5.2MB
01:59:15top_blokeyeah but it filled up the drive during scramble
01:59:21zeweird
01:59:33top_blokeit was thrashin for a while
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02:00:23top_blokerockbox itself is only a few megs
02:00:44top_blokebut it maxed out the swap file while compiling
02:01:28zeok so i just did a test
02:01:30LinusNtop_bloke: something must be wrong with your code
02:01:32ze> time ../tools/scramble rockbox.bin rockbox.ajz
02:01:32zereal 0m0.011s
02:01:32zeuser 0m0.010s
02:01:32zesys 0m0.000s
02:01:38zeyeah *shrug*
02:02:07LinusNtop_bloke: which version of rockbox and which version of the gnu toolchain?
02:02:21top_blokeuh
02:02:30top_blokethe bare bones cygwin
02:02:34LinusNok
02:02:46LinusNand the rockbox version?
02:03:18top_bloke20031010
02:03:22top_blokei did mess with it
02:03:29top_blokei'll admit it
02:03:34LinusNwhat did you do?
02:03:35top_blokebut nothing big i think
02:03:53top_blokesome changes to playlist viewer and such
02:04:33LinusNsounds like you exceeded some memory limit and the linker went crazy
02:04:38top_blokeah
02:04:47top_blokeduring scramble though
02:04:52top_blokejust so u know
02:05:00LinusNhow large is the bin file?
02:05:05top_blokebin?
02:05:13LinusNrockbox.bin
02:05:27top_blokewoah
02:05:29top_bloke144mb
02:05:35LinusNthere you go
02:05:45top_blokehuge
02:05:46LinusNlook in the .map file
02:06:10top_bloke64.9k
02:06:49top_blokegood thing i didnt do this on my real pc i guess
02:07:11top_blokecause it would have had to fill a lot more than 300 mb
02:08:49LinusNsend me the .map file (linus ___at__ haxx.se)
02:09:04top_blokeu dont need to bother
02:09:14top_blokei can just get a fresh rockbox
02:09:59LinusNok then
02:09:59top_blokeunless its important that u get it
02:10:11LinusNno, just trying to help
02:10:19top_blokei was messing with the code today and i dont even know what i did
02:10:27top_blokeso...
02:11:35top_blokeit was funny cause the drive was thrashing for like 15 minutes on that one file
02:11:41LinusNhehe
02:11:43top_blokei'm like eh whatever
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02:18:00LinusNtime to sleep
02:18:04LinusNnite all
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03:14:49Jet8810hey people
03:24:43scott666hey
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04:06:41midknight2k3hi hi hi
04:20:52midknight2k3ACHOOO
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09:54:19jungleanyone around?
09:54:31webmind?
09:55:02junglehi there i was woundering if there are anyhacks in works for the new archos cinama to go things
09:56:15webmindwondering
09:56:24webmindjungle, but not as far as i know
09:56:39jungleoic
09:56:40jungleokay
09:56:44junglewell thanks anyway
09:57:33webmindnp
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21:42:12LinusNi'm about to add a line-in enable/disable setting on the players, where do we want it, in the System or in the Sound settings?
21:53:00 Join man-e [0] (man-e@bzq-218-37-19.cablep.bezeqint.net)
21:58:32man-ehey all !
21:59:27man-e... ?
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22:00:21LinusNyo
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22:07:53[IDC]DragonWow, Linus rules the cvs history!
22:08:06LinusNi 0wnz it!!!
22:08:13[IDC]Dragonbeing productive, eh?
22:08:23[IDC]Dragonthank you very much.
22:08:23LinusNfeels gooooood
22:08:33[IDC]Dragon;-)
22:09:01[IDC]DragonI've enhanced the bootloader for recorders.
22:09:09LinusNgood
22:09:27[IDC]DragonBut I'm not shure what to do with FMs
22:09:57[IDC]DragonThey have no HD power control.
22:10:10LinusNi don't think the fm's have the hd enabled at boot
22:10:19[IDC]DragonMidnight told me the disk is spinning in the charging screen.
22:10:25LinusNoh
22:10:30[IDC]DragonNot really what we want
22:10:30LinusNthat sux
22:10:39[IDC]Dragonsucks power, yes.
22:10:43LinusN:-)
22:11:08LinusNthe key is PB5
22:11:16[IDC]Dragonin your gdb you do a rather complex suspend to the disk
22:11:27LinusNcomplex?
22:11:36[IDC]Dragonwell, an ATA command.
22:11:48LinusNyes
22:11:53[IDC]DragonI don't really want that in my bootloader.
22:12:03LinusNwhy would you?
22:12:34[IDC]DragonYou say the FM can power down the disk?
22:12:52[IDC]DragonI found nothing in the hardware.
22:13:27LinusNpb5 controls the power to the disk plus some other parts of the system
22:14:01[IDC]DragonIs rockbox using that?
22:14:11LinusNif you negate pb5, the whole device shuts down
22:14:19LinusNpower_off()
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22:14:39LinusNbut i wonder how that bit is set at boot time...
22:14:54[IDC]DragonAhh, that bit.
22:15:10[IDC]DragonI have to set it, to hold power.
22:15:50[IDC]DragonWhen I didn't, the user had to hold the on key until the image starts.
22:16:48[IDC]DragonSo PB5 doesn't look very useful for powering down only the disk
22:17:01LinusNnope
22:17:20[IDC]DragonUnless, the plugged charger overrules it for the non-HD part
22:18:12LinusNbut do you really have to fiddle with pb5 when the charger is attached?
22:18:42LinusNi have to go away for an hour or so
22:18:49LinusNi'll be back
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22:19:02[IDC]Dragonnot necessarily with PB5, but I should somehow disable the disk to prevent the flat battery problem.
22:19:23[IDC]DragonOK.
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22:38:24[IDC]DragonLinus, in case you read this later on:
22:38:40[IDC]DragonI tried PB5, it is overruled by the charger.
22:39:07[IDC]DragonBut unfortunately in both aspects, CPU and HD power.
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22:39:38[IDC]DragonSo I'm afraid I have to send an ATA command.
22:40:07[IDC]Dragon(would feel like implementing half the ATA driver)
22:40:44[IDC]DragonIn addition to the gdb code we have to look for ATA address and master/slave (I think)
22:41:27[IDC]DragonHave to go to bed now, but will read the IRC log tomorrow.
22:42:11[IDC]DragonSo you may add any thoughts here in my absence.
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23:30:12tracktheripperHello
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23:51:57tracktheripperhi said hi
23:52:03tracktheripperI said HI!
23:52:13LinusNHIIIIIII
23:52:28tracktheripperhi LinuxN
23:52:32tracktheripperI still can't find ch8 games
23:52:36tracktheripperwhy not provide them on the website
23:52:36tracktheripper?
23:55:30LinusNwe will probably do that when we release it
23:55:56LinusNmeanwhile, try this link. it's the patch from the patch tracker
23:55:56LinusNhttps://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=44306&atid=439120&file_id=33850&aid=628509
23:56:55tracktherippercool
23:57:09tracktheripperLinusN you are much easier to speak to than Bagder or Zagor
23:57:25Jet8810hey
23:57:36LinusNyo
23:57:37tracktheripperhello Jet
23:58:42tracktheripperLinusN I did a google search but found nothing!
23:58:44Jet8810sup guys?

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