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#rockbox log for 2003-11-13

00:16:25 Join thedude02 [0] (Dude@pm663-01.dialip.mich.net)
00:17:16 Join midknight2k3 [0] (lala@ACC6C341.ipt.aol.com)
00:17:23thedude02hi mid
00:17:36midknight2k3hey
00:23:34 Quit edx ()
00:41:54thedude02anybody here?
00:42:05midknight2k3dude: why ask?
00:42:18thedude02other than you I mean'
00:42:31midknight2k3dude: why ask?
00:42:54thedude02cause I wanta know
00:43:03thedude02BTW we had MS spelling bee today
00:43:10thedude02wrong chat
00:43:26midknight2k3?
00:55:11*midknight2k3 gets an idea
00:55:39midknight2k3diputs yeh
00:55:44midknight2k3brb
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01:09:24midknight2k3HEY TOP
01:09:32top_blokeHEY
01:10:23midknight2k3kcus uoy
01:10:36top_blokeno you do
01:11:03midknight2k3?deedni od i
01:11:10top_blokewtf
01:11:14top_blokeyeah
01:11:29top_blokewhy u talking ass backwards?
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01:12:01midknight2k3?elbissop taht si woh
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01:13:48midknight2k3DicA olleh
01:14:58top_blokei hate reading backwards
01:14:58top_blokeits making my head hurt
01:15:17midknight2k3?serac ohw
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01:17:12midknight2k3?wols oot uoy era ro siht daer uoy nac :ekolb_pot
01:17:33midknight2k3sdrawkcab daer nac ew desseug evah dluoc ohw
01:19:31midknight2k3hi topy
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01:28:19EmpeethreeHi chaps
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01:29:13Empeethreehi Scott hows u?
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01:36:16midknight2k3oh boy
01:36:34Empeethreehi
01:36:54midknight2k3hello track
01:37:05Empeethreemy name is not track
01:37:10midknight2k3you did a good job convincing me you got that ADSL Line ;)
01:37:26Empeethreetrack uses jIRC
01:37:29Empeethreeim using Icechat
01:37:35Empeethreeif you open your eyes and see
01:37:38midknight2k3you've been boasting about icechat the past few weeks
01:37:56midknight2k3"hey i use icechat what do u use?"
01:39:01Empeethree:-S
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02:47:03midknight2k3this brings back memories
02:47:05midknight2k308.56.57 # <ollitrop> well thanks assfuck! i hope you feel better, Mr. I'm so smart and i talk down to people on a computer because in real life they could kick my ass. Go ahead hide behind your PC. If I missed that part then it was my bad but you dont have to talk to people that way you fucking pissant. And dont apoligize now, faqs are a bitch to maintain, dont tell people to come here if you arent willing to put up with stupid questions, AS
02:47:15midknight2k3ollitrop hassling Adi
02:47:42midknight2k3but why? why did he do it?
02:51:26midknight2k3its amazing
02:51:36midknight2k3adi?
02:51:45midknight2k3Hes
02:51:48midknight2k3oosp
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03:24:40midknight2k3hey
03:24:46scott666hey
03:25:25midknight2k3be back in 10 mins
03:44:36 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: ribbed for her pleasure!")
03:59:14midknight2k3back
03:59:17midknight2k3hehe
03:59:19midknight2k335 minutes
03:59:41scott666no, 34
03:59:50midknight2k3sigh
03:59:51midknight2k3ok
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04:12:54midknight2k3 ____ ____ ____ _ _
04:12:54midknight2k3 | | | | | | / |
04:12:54midknight2k3 |____| | | | |−−/ |
04:12:54DBUGEnqueued KICK midknight2k3
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04:12:54***Alert Mode level 1
04:12:54midknight2k3
04:12:57midknight2k3:)
04:13:23scott666box is way too small
04:13:28midknight2k3i know
04:13:29midknight2k3boo
04:13:30midknight2k3hiss
04:14:27top_blokeboo
04:14:30midknight2k3 ____ ____ ____ _ _
04:14:31midknight2k3 | | | | | | / |
04:14:31midknight2k3 |____| | | | |−−/ |__ __
04:14:31***Alert Mode level 2
04:14:31midknight2k3 | \ | | | | \ | || |\./
04:14:31***Alert Mode level 3
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04:14:31***Alert Mode level 4
04:14:31midknight2k3
04:14:32top_blokehiss
04:14:33midknight2k3there
04:14:35midknight2k3take that
04:14:47top_blokewhats that?
04:14:57top_blokemaybe i have the wrong font
04:15:06midknight2k3(stupid people: don't try to comprehend. maybe you will blow a chip)
04:15:29top_blokeit doesnt look like anything to me
04:15:56top_blokeopp south park's back on
04:16:28midknight2k3oh boy
04:16:30midknight2k3scott
04:16:32midknight2k3how is it
04:18:25midknight2k3heres the BEST
04:18:25midknight2k3
04:18:26midknight2k3 _ ____ ____ ____ _ _
04:18:26***Alert Mode level 5
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04:18:27***Alert Mode level 8
04:18:27midknight2k3 \|| | |____| |____ | \_ |__||__|/¯\ .
04:18:29midknight2k3
04:19:33midknight2k304.12.54 DBUG Enqueued KICK midknight2k3
04:19:35midknight2k3great
04:28:28***Alert Mode OFF
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04:58:12midknight2k3hi windho
04:58:14midknight2k3dsg
04:58:15midknight2k3er
04:58:17midknight2k3dwihno
04:58:19midknight2k3:)
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05:07:51midknight2k3argh
05:07:56midknight2k3anyone a coder around?
05:08:16scott666a rockbox coder, or just a coder?
05:08:22midknight2k3rockbox coder
05:08:40scott666ok, then i probably cant help
05:08:54scott666why dont you just ask your question and see who answers?
05:08:57midknight2k3sec
05:09:00midknight2k3might not need to
05:09:05midknight2k3YESS
05:09:12midknight2k3you take it i did it
05:09:15midknight2k3and you take it right
05:09:41midknight2k3YEEEEES
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05:29:29Doggerhave just broken my av300 :( *sob*
05:29:41scott666already?
05:29:42scott666how?
05:29:51DoggerI got it to run my own code
05:29:53DoggerI was stupid
05:29:56DoggerI didn't think
05:30:03Doggerand now it wont run anything else
05:30:07Doggerdammit
05:30:23scott666why not?
05:30:43Doggeri need to build serial cable then I may be able to work out how to do serial update
05:30:51scott666and thats some pretty damn good motivation to finish writing your own code
05:30:52scott666heh
05:31:02Doggerotherwise I'll have to take it back/send it to archos
05:31:08Doggerthats gonna be hard to explain
05:31:12scott666heh
05:31:36scott666thats what best buy policies are good for
05:31:43scott666'its broke, gimme a new one'
05:31:46Doggerlol
05:31:59Doggerbut mine doesn't have a warranty sticker on it
05:32:07Doggercant believe I was so stupid
05:32:14Doggerat least I know how to run code on it now tho
05:34:30midknight2k3doggeR?
05:34:31midknight2k3WHAT?
05:34:33midknight2k3you broke it?
05:35:05midknight2k3whos
05:35:10midknight2k3whoa wht happened
05:35:25DoggerI did an update
05:35:33midknight2k3and...
05:35:39Doggerit ran my code
05:35:41Doggerand crashed
05:35:46Doggernow it wont do any updates
05:35:47midknight2k3oh no
05:35:48Doggerdoh
05:36:00midknight2k3what code was it for?
05:36:02Doggeram majorly pissed off at myself :(
05:36:08Doggerit was just a test bit of code
05:36:13midknight2k3sorry to hear such
05:36:14Doggerto see if it ran or not
05:36:17DoggerI know it did,
05:36:18midknight2k3hopefully fixable
05:36:24Doggerbut now I cant do much :((
05:37:19DoggerI can still read/write to the HDD over usb,
05:38:53Dogger<−−- dimwit
05:40:29midknight2k3night all
05:40:31midknight2k3sorry
05:40:33midknight2k3dogger
05:40:34midknight2k3good luck
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10:33:36Mercury_hi everybody
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11:00:09 Join mg [0] (~matt@public1-leed3-6-cust129.leed.broadband.ntl.com)
11:00:16mghi guys.
11:00:36mgi installed rockbox last night −− it's fantastic, like having bought a new player.
11:00:42mgthanks **very** much
11:01:16webmind_np
11:01:22 Nick webmind_ is now known as webmind (~cme2@217-195-236-172.dsl.esined.net)
11:01:28webmind:)
11:01:41webmindmg, do you have a player or recorder?
11:01:47mgrecorder
11:01:58webmindk
11:01:58mgjukebox recorder 20 in fact
11:02:05webmindok
11:02:43mgi'm blown away by how much better it is than the software archos provide. there's really no comparison
11:03:28webmindwell rockbox does have some bad points though
11:03:49mgmaybe but i don't care right now ;-)
11:04:05webmindk :)
11:04:24mgwebmind: you should try putting the original software back and you'll realise what you've achieved
11:04:27mg:)
11:04:36mgplease pass on my thanks to the rest of the dev team
11:04:50webminddont worry.. i know
11:05:42mgjust a shame rockbox can't do ogg but i read the faq and i spoke to archos about it some time ago. oh well.
11:09:02webmindyeah.. well not really fixable
11:10:11mgso what are rockbox's bad points?
11:10:23mgi've only played for about .5 hour.
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11:13:46webminduhm wel
11:13:53webmindi dont get the queue function
11:14:19webmindthe archos one made more sense to me.. that it is.. it did what i wanted
11:14:42webmindand the 'resume' function is plainly anoying as it only works when i dont want it to work
11:14:46webmindgiven a few exceptions
11:15:06mgwebmind: sounds like resume needs some AI built in then ;-)
11:15:20webmindyeah. resume could be fixed though
11:15:28webmindjust i'm no developer
11:15:57mgwebmind: ah ok, i assumed you were a developer. i'd better subscribe to the mailing list to say thanks in that case.
11:16:09mgi'll have to try the queue facility later.
11:16:40webmindk
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11:58:12EmpeethreeMORNING!
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12:10:23webmindmorning
12:10:30Empeethreehi
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12:45:58LinusNwebmind, what's wrong with the resume?
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13:17:01webmindLinusN, it asks for resume when i dont want it
13:17:08webmindlike when i press stop
13:17:54LinusNplayer or recorder?
13:18:18LinusNthe behaviour has changed since 2.0
13:18:20LinusNiirc
13:18:51webmindplayer
13:20:51LinusNif i remember correctly, it will always resume, even if you have stopped the music
13:21:06webmindyes
13:21:13webmindwell sometimes it doesnt.. for some reason
13:21:21webmindbut i dont want it to always resume
13:21:29webmindonly in cases where it would make sense
13:21:53webmindlike when it was turned of due to timeout while playing or on pause
13:22:14webmindor if it was turned of by the powerbutton maybe during play (without stopping it first)
13:24:36LinusNhmmm
13:24:46LinusNi haven't looked at that code for ages
13:25:00LinusNbut it looks like it doesn't save the resume info when stopping the music
13:25:32LinusNi think we removed that to be able to resume with the ON button after stop
13:26:13LinusNhowever, it should always resume when you turn on the player
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13:26:25LinusNif it doesn't, there must be a bug somewhere
13:27:48webmindit does
13:27:56webmindand i kinda really dislike that function
13:28:15webmindcos he chances of that i would want to play where i was.. is rather small
13:30:15LinusNwell, that may be the case for you
13:30:33LinusNif you dislike it, why do you have it enabled?
13:31:34LinusNcan you find a way to provoke it to not resume, so i have a test case to work with?
13:32:22webmindbecause it sometimes happens my player gets turned of because of timeout.. or because sometimg was leaning on the stop button
13:32:34webmindwhich i think would a resume function be for
13:32:56webmindLinusN, i'll check for that case
13:32:59LinusNand it isn't now?
13:33:34LinusNso, you dislike the function, but you have it enabled because you want it to resume?
13:33:38LinusNi don't get it
13:34:39webmindLinusN, i want it to resume in certain cases
13:34:47webmindwhere it would make sense
13:35:00webmindnot when i legitimaly stop a song
13:35:48LinusNi can agree with that
13:35:53LinusNit used to work like that
13:36:13LinusNbut we changed it on request from other users
13:36:49webmindit just really doesnt make sense. if you want to stop it only temporarily.. u have the pause button right ?
13:37:02LinusNhowever, it is a bug if it doesn't resume when it is supposed to
13:37:27LinusNwebmind: it's kind of an "undo" feature for the stop
13:37:51LinusNbut it has the drawback that it resumes even when you turn off the device
13:38:00webmindLinusN, yeah lovely.. you have the keyblock feature for that right ?
13:38:28LinusNsure, if you lock the keys
13:39:40webmindwhich you should if you need an undo function
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13:43:05LinusNwebmind: i'm looking through the archives for the discussions regarding this
13:43:20webmindk
13:51:49LinusNgotta go, i'll look into this later
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19:35:44Doggeranyone there?
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19:47:35AciDwhat's up ?
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21:05:23mgany of the developers around at the moment?
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