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#rockbox log for 2003-11-22

00:09:51quelsaruktime to go!
00:09:52quelsarukcu
00:12:10 Join tracktheripper [0] (icechat5@ACB93DC6.ipt.aol.com)
00:12:15tracktheripperHello
00:12:32xamhi
00:12:36tracktheripperhello Xam
00:12:38tracktheripperhi LinusN
00:13:01tracktheripperLinusN do you have a girlfriend?
00:14:04tracktheripperits quiet in here
00:14:21Doggerhi tracktheripper
00:14:23xamwhats that recorder v2?
00:14:53tracktheripperhi dogger
00:15:04tracktheripperXam the Recorder 2 is the FM recorder with the FM removed
00:15:48xam? that doesn't make sense from an engineers point of view ;)
00:16:07tracktheripperdunno
00:16:11tracktheripperthey discontinued the FM recorder
00:16:20 Part quelsaruk
00:16:45 Quit edx ()
00:16:57xamare these devices existent at all? I never heared of them (also didn't find them on the archos website)
00:16:57tracktheripperthe FM circuit was more of an afterthought than anything else
00:17:08tracktheripperthe FM recorder existed but not anymore
00:17:56tracktheripperIts strange because they still sell the Ondio which has an FM receiver built in and they make a version of the Ondio minus the FM receiver
00:18:48LinusNtracktheripper: i don't have a girlfriend
00:18:59tracktheripperok
00:19:06LinusNi have a wife
00:19:18tracktherippercool. Is she into Archos Jukeboxes and Rockbox?
00:19:22LinusNzagor has a girlfriend
00:19:27LinusNbagder has a wife
00:19:29xamso why would anyone buy the recorderv2 them? li-ion batteries are crap
00:19:55tracktheripperwell Xam li-ion batteries allow for more aesthetic designs since they are slimmer
00:20:05LinusNneither of our partners are into archos/rockbox
00:20:08 Join Norrin [0] (~JSmith123@ip68-13-107-239.om.om.cox.net)
00:20:09tracktheripperoh ok
00:20:12tracktheripperjust wondered
00:20:16LinusNnow i'm going to bed, nite all
00:20:17tracktheripperim still single so I can't comment
00:20:20tracktherippernite nite LinusN
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00:20:43NorrinGood evening all. Quick question, what does the car adapter mode do?
00:21:00tracktheripperi believe it enables the Archos to be switched off and on along with the car's ignition
00:21:16xamtracktheripper: true ... anyway, is it safe using the latest build or are any bugs known?
00:21:21tracktheripperdunno
00:21:28tracktheripperhavent' tried the latest build
00:22:00NorrinInteresting, I'll have to check that out.
00:22:08tracktheripperok
00:22:15tracktheripperlet us know how you get on
00:22:45tracktheripper:)
00:22:50NorrinCheers, just wanted to know if anyone had messed with it or not.
00:22:58tracktheripperwell i havent' myself
00:23:01 Part Norrin
00:23:32tracktheripperXam li-ion batteries arent' supposed to wear out like Ni-MH batteris
00:24:35xamtracktheripper: due to the chemistry of li-ion they degrade after 2-3 years
00:25:01tracktheripperwell Archos claim "the battery will last for the lifetime of the product"
00:25:12xamtracktheripper: it doesn't matter how much you use them, after 3 years you have to replace them ... look at cellphones for examples
00:25:39xamtracktheripper: nope, they will replace it if it is broken afaik
00:26:18tracktheripperCellphones use niMH battereis
00:26:32xamanybody will tell you that li-ion are not a good solution for devices that you want to use longer than 3 years
00:26:55xamtracktheripper: nope, not my last 2 cellphones
00:27:04xameven 3 cellphones
00:27:23tracktheripperwell i think liion has improved
00:27:32tracktherippermore and more MP3 devices have them as non-removeable
00:27:33xame.g. the last cellphone with NiMH was about 6 years ago
00:27:37xamI have
00:28:03xamtracktheripper: unfortunately there is no standard, so you could replace them
00:28:27tracktheripperok
00:28:28Doggerall batteries should be replacable tho
00:28:34Doggerbuilding them in sucks
00:28:43uskiliion use chemicals that constantly degrades over time
00:29:00uskiit is impossible to have liion batteries that will last forever
00:29:05xamtracktheripper: then it would be okay, but since Li-Ion are usually custom made stuff, I prefer NiMH for most stuff
00:29:15_aLFis it possible to get new battery from archos or someone else ?
00:29:21tracktheripperWhy don't they make li-ion AA batteries :)
00:29:40uskitracktheripper: to prevent people from puttin 4 3.6V batteries instead of 4 1.2V batteries ? :)
00:30:02tracktheripperno, longer playback time
00:30:02tracktheripper:)
00:30:06xam_aLF: yes, I've been told there are several companies where you can get them from (custom made). AFAIK archos also replaces then for free
00:30:13tracktheripperok
00:30:31tracktheripperI think ni-mh is the best material
00:30:31tracktheripper:)
00:30:40xambut I'm not sure about that archos offer
00:30:41uskiyea, it is good
00:30:47uskigtg
00:31:12tracktherippermaybe one day they will make wind-up MP3 players like with the wind-up radios
00:31:18xamNiMH and a good charger ... you don't need more
00:31:39tracktheripper:D
00:32:18tracktherippermy radio is either wind-up powered, solar powered, or mains powered
00:32:19tracktheripper:)
00:33:38xamI have a nice LED torch (nightstar2) which is totally waterproof (140m) and is recharged by shaking ;)
00:33:44tracktheripperlol
00:34:49xamit even swims ... it's the ultimate survival torch ... indestructible and no batteries/bulps needed
00:34:59tracktheripperlol
00:35:21tracktheripperI want a wind-up MP3 player charger
00:36:01 Join midknight2k3 [0] (lala@ACC28999.ipt.aol.com)
00:36:07Doggerhey midknight2k3
00:36:12midknight2k3hey
00:36:13xamwhat about a mp3 player with a shake-charing system?
00:36:18midknight2k3shake-caring?
00:36:28midknight2k3shake-charing?
00:36:30xam shake-charging
00:37:08midknight2k3what do you mean
00:37:52midknight2k3elaborate.
00:37:57xamI mean if you are dancing to the music, you can use the energy when you shake your body to recharge the mp3 player aswell ;)
00:38:03midknight2k3uhm\
00:38:09*midknight2k3 says "
00:38:12midknight2k3er
00:38:38*midknight2k3 says "great one" unconvincingly reassuringly
00:38:40xamI have a led torch that uses a shake charging system
00:38:57midknight2k3i get it
00:39:06midknight2k3make your force spin the hard drive like a generator
00:39:09xamit works quite well ... 20 secs shaking = 5 mins light
00:39:16Doggerhey if anyone's interested in encryption in general, hop along to www.axod.net/enx
00:39:17midknight2k3oh really
00:39:28midknight2k3Dogger: did you mention legal bills?
00:39:41Doggeryeah :(
00:39:51midknight2k3tell me about it
00:39:52Doggerlawyers charge lots to send letters
00:40:10*midknight2k3 feels sad for Dogger
00:40:49Doggeroh well, life goes on
00:41:26*midknight2k3 looks around for who said it ended
00:41:31midknight2k3speak up!
00:42:10Doggerdid I tell you I got my wife an iPod
00:42:14Doggerexcellent thing
00:42:19Doggerbrilliant firmware
00:42:22*midknight2k3 despises iPod's
00:42:24midknight2k3i hate you
00:42:26midknight2k3what a jerk :D
00:42:29Doggeryou tried one?
00:42:36midknight2k3i sure did
00:42:40midknight2k3oh there was this guy
00:42:43Doggerplayed solitaire on it?
00:42:43midknight2k3on the bus
00:42:44midknight2k3so funny
00:42:47Doggerinstalled linux on it?
00:42:51midknight2k3he had a 3g ipod
00:43:01midknight2k3dogger: try a rec20 with rockbox. that's cookin
00:43:04midknight2k3anyways this guy
00:43:09Doggerhrm, ok,
00:43:14midknight2k3he had a sensors ipod 36
00:43:17midknight2k33g*
00:43:22xamwhat happened to the flash version of rockbox? I can't find it on the homepage anymore!
00:43:25midknight2k3he couldnt get the right song
00:43:42Doggeryeah,
00:43:50midknight2k3he tapped the wheel down and it didnt go
00:43:54midknight2k3he tapped the wheel down again harder and it didnt go
00:44:03Doggerlol
00:44:03midknight2k3then he sort of moved it and it went down 2 or 3
00:44:07midknight2k3it was so funny
00:44:11midknight2k3he kept pressing buttons
00:44:17Doggeris that the old one where the wheel actually moves?
00:44:18midknight2k3couldnt get the sensors to work
00:44:21midknight2k3new one
00:44:23midknight2k3all sensors
00:44:25Doggerhrm ok,
00:44:30Doggerours works cool,
00:44:33midknight2k3http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/flash.html
00:44:41midknight2k3dogger: i still say a rec20 with rockbox is better
00:44:52Doggeronly thing I dont like with it, is you cant just copy mp3s on it (with standard firmware)
00:45:00Doggeryou have to use the software to 'import' them
00:45:11Doggerthat sucks...
00:45:18xammidknight2k3: yeah, but the flash versions of latest rockbox versions?
00:45:20midknight2k3hey
00:45:21midknight2k3apple is dumb
00:45:27midknight2k3what?
00:45:39midknight2k3as in flash new versions?
00:46:33Doggerapple is cool!
00:46:36Doggerbetter than wintel
00:46:37tracktheripperhello Midknight
00:46:37tracktheripper:)
00:46:41midknight2k3hello tracktheripper
00:46:42xamyes ... I thought there were some special rockbox files available, and .ajz forom harddisk booting fr
00:46:45tracktheripper:D
00:46:48midknight2k3xam
00:46:53midknight2k3you flash with a UCL
00:47:06midknight2k3rec or fm rec
00:47:38xammidknight2k3: I already flashed a 'old' UCL version ... where can I find bleeding edge ones for my rec20?
00:47:53midknight2k3http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily/recorder/rockbox-recorder-20031121.zip
00:48:02xammidknight2k3: am I blind? I only find .ajz on in the zip files
00:48:11midknight2k3take the UCL, paste into root and run rockbox_flash
00:48:14midknight2k3take a look again
00:48:23midknight2k3br'
00:48:25midknight2k3brb
00:49:49xamargll, I was blind ... it is there ...
00:50:14tracktheripperlol
00:50:28xamI downloaded the right zip from the beginning but didn't see the ucl ... I expected it to be in the root dir, not in .rockbox
00:55:21tracktheripperI just emailed Archos
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01:02:23 Join Romain [0] (Romain@APoitiers-103-1-6-24.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr)
01:02:31tracktheripperhello rmain
01:02:33tracktheripperromain
01:02:38Romainhi guys
01:02:42midknight2k3hekki
01:02:43midknight2k3er
01:02:44midknight2k3hello
01:02:54xamhave still a mild concussion ... got my head between car and cardoor last night ... well, I was about to get out of the car, and guy smashed door. now nice wound near my temple which will leave a scar
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01:03:27xamtracktheripper: what did you write? did you ask whether they will replace the batteries?
01:03:27midknight2k3wouch
01:03:33midknight2k3hello acid
01:03:57tracktheripperno I asked if they will ever support AAC or WMA via a firmware upgrade
01:04:00Romainsorry to interrupt guys, just wanted to tell dogger how interesting i found his enx web-tool ;)
01:05:38xamtracktheripper: or whether they will reveal the docs how to programme the dsp ... that's the more interesting question, since we could implement it ourselves (would be hard work though)
01:06:39xamtracktheripper: I would be more interested in FLAC and OGG support
01:06:47xamvorbis that is
01:07:10tracktherippervobis is very hard to decode or so I heard
01:07:23midknight2k3i'll let you two quabble
01:07:32tracktheripperwe wernt' quabbling mid
01:07:32tracktheripper:)
01:07:33xammid lol
01:07:50midknight2k3:o
01:07:54tracktheripperlol
01:08:01tracktheripperleave mid alone he's a wicked person
01:08:03xamtracktheripper: well, the CPU in the archos is too slow, but the dsp should do the job ...
01:08:03midknight2k38-|
01:08:11midknight2k3xam: uhm
01:08:32midknight2k3if we did have the docs it'd be the choice between ogg or mp3 most likely
01:08:35midknight2k3lots of work
01:08:39midknight2k3not even possible
01:08:40tracktheripperyea
01:08:40midknight2k3really
01:08:41tracktheripperlol
01:08:45xammid yes, I know, we don't have the specs for the dsp
01:08:46tracktheripperwhat about ATRAC3 support?
01:09:00midknight2k3xam: specs don't really matter
01:09:04midknight2k3we can get specs
01:09:09midknight2k3we just cant program it.
01:09:12xammid sure they matter ...
01:09:38midknight2k3uhm
01:09:46midknight2k3we have them
01:09:49midknight2k3thats not the issue
01:09:51tracktheripperreally?
01:09:58midknight2k3really.
01:10:12tracktheripperdo u have them in PDF format
01:10:17xammid here at our university there is a project that uses condensed graphs to describe algorithms ... they can be automatically compiled into code for several kinds of dsp
01:10:19midknight2k3they are online somewhere
01:10:25tracktheripperok
01:10:33midknight2k3go ahead and try if you like
01:10:43tracktheripperif u can give me a link mid
01:11:42xamI'm sure you can programme/transcode a ogg algo into condensed graph in a reasonable amount of time (and implement the compiler backend for that specific dsp aswell)
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01:12:41tracktherippertheoretically xam
01:12:46tracktherippersounds feasible though
01:14:07xamjust for the fact that it is still an ongoing project ... but condensed graphs can descibe processes in dsps and mpp/cluster systems very well
01:14:13tracktheripperIs the coding radically different in the programs that make WMA, MP3, AAC etc?
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01:16:27tracktheripperlol
01:16:34xamtracktheripper: yes, its quite different. the stuff works, but currently there exists no transcoder from C/Java to condensed graphs (but it's in the works) ... once condensed graphs it is optimized for concurrent stuff like clusters of special dsp
01:16:42tracktheripperoh ok
01:16:46tracktheripperjust wondered
01:17:07tracktheripperits just how can a 64kbs AAC sound much better than a 64kbs MP3 if the same amount of data is removed
01:17:54midknight2k3different data removed
01:17:56xamthat has nothing to do with dsps, condensed graphs or the like, that's just the used algorithm ...
01:18:00tracktheripperoh ok
01:18:21tracktheripperits like a pie, it the same amount is removed (eaten) it shouldn't affect the taste of the pie
01:18:23xamyou remove the same amount of data, but the more efficient removes more redundand data
01:18:28tracktheripperoh ok
01:20:39xamwell, just take a photo picture for example ... if you cut the edges of the pic, you remove just relatively useless stuff, you can still identify the persons on the picture ... if you remove the faces, you can't anymore ... it's just about what you take away
01:20:59midknight2k3uh
01:20:59tracktheripperyea i suppose
01:21:03midknight2k3good comparison
01:21:43tracktheripperwell its only like with my pie, if various bits are eaten it shouldn't change the taste of the pie, just make it smaller
01:22:32midknight2k3that is a bad comparison
01:22:40xamlol
01:22:46tracktheripperwell its just my theory mid
01:23:05tracktheripperoh yea mid Ive just realised what I said
01:23:24midknight2k3taste of pie
01:23:25tracktheripperheres a good comparison
01:23:28xamwell, if you have a apple pie, and just eat the apple bits, it would affect the taste ...
01:23:29midknight2k3why WOULD it change the taste
01:23:36midknight2k3oh great
01:23:37tracktheripperlol
01:24:01tracktheripperanyway a picture of a plain blue rectangle is much easier to compress than a landscape picture which would contain many different colours and shades
01:24:29midknight2k3track: duh
01:24:56tracktheripperwell its true Mid
01:24:57tracktheripper:)
01:25:02midknight2k3i know
01:25:05midknight2k3thats like saying
01:25:11midknight2k3there is such thing as gravity
01:25:14midknight2k3im not lying
01:25:20midknight2k3and the sky is blue can you believe it?
01:25:24midknight2k3im not lying i swear
01:25:27tracktheripperunless its cloudy or nighttime
01:25:28tracktheripper:)
01:27:19xamthere is no gravity ... there is just a flection in the space-time continuum
01:27:26tracktheripperlol
01:27:35xamit's true ;)
01:27:40tracktheripperyea i know
01:27:52tracktheripper:)
01:27:52midknight2k3OH GREAT
01:27:55midknight2k3JUST SHUTUP
01:27:57midknight2k3ALL OF YOU
01:28:05midknight2k3its like saying track's dumb
01:28:08xamhehe
01:28:10midknight2k3theres no arguing with that :)
01:28:18tracktheripperi agree with you mid
01:28:20tracktheripperI am dumb
01:28:24tracktheripperno doubt about it
01:28:35xamI know that I don't know
01:28:35RomainDogger, can u tell me more about which tool u would advise to use to decrypt an encrypted file,
01:28:38Romain once we have the key ?
01:30:15midknight2k3ahem
01:30:21midknight2k3 <Romain> Dogger, can u tell me
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01:30:26midknight2k3i dont see much about xam there
01:30:30midknight2k3:0
01:30:50tracktherippermid whats ur latest patch implementation?
01:30:53xamyeah, I'm a little bit busy
01:32:34midknight2k3track
01:32:37midknight2k3its a chip8 icon
01:32:49tracktheripperoh right like the folder and MP3 icons?
01:32:50Romainmid , could u be more clear ?
01:33:08midknight2k3Romain
01:33:10midknight2k3track
01:33:16midknight2k3its an icon for .ch8 files
01:33:21midknight2k3for the chip8 emultaor
01:33:28midknight2k3yes like the folder and mp3 files
01:33:40tracktheripperwhat design do you have in mind?
01:33:47midknight2k3i made one
01:33:49midknight2k3i uploaded it
01:33:51midknight2k3its there
01:33:59tracktherippercool
01:34:00midknight2k3im making a new patch
01:34:03midknight2k3new icons all over
01:34:03tracktheripperill check it out
01:34:18tracktheripperMid how about "animations" in the browser or WPS?
01:34:26tracktheripperlike on some mobile phones?
01:34:28midknight2k3new icon for repeat, repeat one, shuffle, mp3 file..
01:34:33midknight2k3cant really
01:34:38midknight2k3i hope to try soon
01:34:50tracktherippercool
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02:54:42holotonedoes anyone know what interface (i.e. ATA-2/3/4/5/6) a laptop HDD would have to be to work in an archos 6000 recorder?
02:54:59midknight2k3basically any will work
02:55:08holotonedoesn't matter any?
02:55:13midknight2k3nope
02:55:19midknight2k3make sure theres a return police just in case :)
02:55:24midknight2k3policy
02:55:36midknight2k3never heard of an upgrade not working
02:55:44holotonecuz I had a Toshiba MK4018GAS in it before (40GB) and toasted it
02:56:08holotonebut the only type of low profile HDD is Ultra ATA (ATA-6)
02:56:13holotoneanymore, anyhow
02:56:23midknight2k3you need a laptop hdd
02:56:33midknight2k3thats about it for requirements
02:57:06holotonesweetness
02:57:12midknight2k3yup
02:57:23holotonealrighty, thanks mang
02:57:30holotoneYou happen to know what the limit is on size?
02:57:54holotoneI know it's at best the FAT32 limit (whatever that is) but will the hardware just stop recognizing above a certain capacity?
02:58:38midknight2k3well
02:58:41midknight2k380gb ones work
02:58:43midknight2k3so..
02:58:44midknight2k3lol
02:58:48holotonejesus
02:58:50holotonethat's awesome
02:58:51midknight2k3i think thats the highest they make them
02:58:53midknight2k3yeah
02:58:56holotoneok, thanks again for the help
02:59:19midknight2k3np
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04:43:59AciDhi
04:44:09midknight2k3hey
04:44:14midknight2k3new patch
04:44:19midknight2k3keyboard makeover :D
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05:01:31midknight2k3hey dogger
05:01:51*midknight2k3 has no life
05:05:47Doggerhey midknight2k3
05:05:57Doggerjust looking at competition
05:06:00Doggerlyra looks ok,
05:06:03midknight2k3boo
05:06:10midknight2k3KARMA
05:06:12midknight2k3all the way
05:06:27Doggermec station already has linux on it!
05:06:30Doggerkarma?
05:06:34midknight2k3RIO KARMA
05:06:36midknight2k3WOOOOOOO
05:06:37midknight2k3TASTY
05:06:39midknight2k3super small
05:06:42midknight2k3super powered
05:06:57midknight2k3stay here
05:07:01midknight2k3i get link
05:07:15Doggerok,
05:07:25midknight2k3WAIT
05:07:26midknight2k3halt
05:08:00midknight2k3stay here
05:08:26midknight2k3http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/_templates/item_main_Rio.asp?model=220&cat=56
05:08:40Doggerreading...
05:08:42Doggernot too pricy,
05:08:46midknight2k3read.
05:08:50midknight2k3READ
05:08:55midknight2k3ogg flac wma mp3 support
05:08:56Doggerethernet???
05:09:00midknight2k3parametric eq
05:09:01Doggerwow
05:09:03midknight2k3ethernet dock
05:09:06Doggercan you buy it now?
05:09:08midknight2k3this is ipod x 20
05:09:15midknight2k3yup
05:09:15midknight2k3but a best buy around :)
05:09:17midknight2k3got*
05:09:57Doggerno video tho right?
05:10:01midknight2k3nah
05:10:08midknight2k3neat startup screen
05:10:09Doggerbrilliant music player tho
05:10:16midknight2k3SUPER player
05:10:21midknight2k3i mean the .. ooh
05:10:29midknight2k3if you want a player, head thataway
05:10:34midknight2k3scroll wheen
05:10:40midknight2k3wheel*
05:10:52midknight2k3that parametric eq is like a 5 band eq on steroids lol
05:11:29Doggerlyra has cf slot
05:11:34midknight2k3boo
05:11:36midknight2k3suck
05:11:36midknight2k3hiss
05:11:37Doggerbut I want a video player
05:11:41midknight2k3karma woo
05:11:42midknight2k3karma woo
05:11:44Doggerneed to watch movies
05:11:47midknight2k3OH WAIT
05:11:48Doggeron my plane trips
05:11:54midknight2k3well jeez
05:11:56DoggerI fly about 20 hours a month
05:12:00midknight2k3theres only one brand that does that
05:12:02midknight2k3"ARCHOS"
05:12:56Doggerlyra does it
05:12:59midknight2k3BOO
05:13:01midknight2k3SUCK
05:13:01Doggermec station does it
05:13:15Doggerlots of others are entering the market
05:13:21midknight2k3boo
05:13:27Doggeronly way I will stay with archos is if I can put linux on it ok
05:13:37DoggerI like the av300
05:13:42Doggerits got a big screen,
05:13:48Doggerbut you can still fit it in ur pocket
05:14:22Doggerthinking of getting the cam300 some time
05:14:31Doggerbut it is pretty highly priced I think
05:14:57midknight2k3yeah
05:14:59midknight2k33.3MP tho
05:15:05Doggersure, but $200?
05:15:19Doggeryou could buy a 3mp camera for that on its own
05:15:20midknight2k3fine, go get a standalone cam for $400-$500
05:15:27Doggerhrm, maybe
05:15:30midknight2k3perhaps a bargain basement one
05:15:32midknight2k3lol
05:15:38Doggeryeah
05:15:47Doggerdepends how good quality the cam300 really is
05:15:50midknight2k3yeah
05:15:56Doggerprolly kodak
05:16:05Doggerthe cam for the av1xx is a kodak
05:16:12Doggerthat was 1mp tho
05:16:16midknight2k3boo
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05:18:06Doggeryou say boo too much
05:18:12Doggeryah boo sucks
05:19:02midknight2k3boo hiss
05:24:36midknight2k3time to update bluelist
05:25:00midknight2k3cd
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05:26:24midknight2k3hmm
05:26:31midknight2k3whrees the bluelist options
05:28:53midknight2k3yay
05:28:57midknight2k3bluelist update
05:29:28midknight2k3updated again
05:29:30midknight2k3done
05:32:19midknight2k3ok goodnight
05:36:24midknight2k3night
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16:10:21Doggerhi tracktheripper
16:10:32tracktheripper:)
16:10:38tracktheripperim just browsing Ebay now
16:10:56Doggercool,
16:10:59Doggerwhat you after?
16:12:00tracktheripperI want a laptop to use as an extension computer. It must be compatible with my ADSL modem, have a CDRW/DVD and a reasonably-sized processor/HD
16:12:08Doggercool,
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16:13:14tracktheripperThey are selling Laptops as cheap as 75
16:13:51tracktheripperbrb
16:15:49tracktheripperhi
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19:40:14Doggerhey
19:40:23thedude02hey
19:40:27Doggerwhats the cheapest model I can run rockbox on?
19:40:27Dogger6000?
19:40:34Doggerwanna buy something cheap off ebay
19:40:40thedude02no idea
19:40:51thedude02any harddrive archos should do
19:41:02Doggernot multimedia
19:41:10thedude02?
19:41:31thedude02Anyone here to help me out?
19:42:00thedude02NEW TOPIC!
19:42:11thedude02I just noticed that...
19:45:28Dogger?
19:45:46thedude02new topic for the channel
19:45:53thedude02used to be Rockbox for presidnt
19:46:06thedude02now it's 2.1 feature freeze
19:46:29Doggeroh yeah
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19:47:22thedude02theheckwithit
19:47:35thedude02I'm just busy but I have time to talk
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