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#rockbox log for 2003-11-30

00:00:42 Quit _aLF ("bye")
00:02:08top_blokeword up.
00:02:30midknight2k3yes
00:02:45top_blokeindeed.
00:03:03midknight2k3positively
00:14:06 Join tracktheripper [0] (~icechat5@ACBAF3C3.ipt.aol.com)
00:14:35midknight2k3toppy?
00:14:38midknight2k3hello track
00:14:41tracktheripperhi midknight
00:14:47tracktheripperbeen watching the snooker all afternoon
00:14:52midknight2k3?
00:15:09tracktheripperRonnie O'Sullivan lost to Stephen Hendry in the semifinals
00:15:30midknight2k3whatever
00:15:46top_blokethats like pool right?
00:16:10midknight2k3"the snooker" == pool?
00:16:18top_blokeyeah
00:16:21top_blokei believe
00:16:24tracktheripperyes its played on a similar table
00:16:33tracktheripperexcept snooker is played on green cloth not blue
00:17:08midknight2k3green cloth == pool
00:17:27top_blokeno green cloth != pool
00:17:42tracktheripperPool is usually played on blue cloth
00:18:12 Quit top_bloke (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
00:18:21midknight2k3no...
00:18:52tracktheripperI saw the Archos Gmini in the shops today
00:19:25midknight2k3i got a creative travelsound speaker set
00:19:30tracktheripperIts very small and thin but not sure of its horizontal interface
00:20:27 Join top_bloke [0] (~ekolb_pot@0-1pool36-34.nas12.oakbrook1.il.us.da.qwest.net)
00:20:41midknight2k3TOP TOP TOPPY
00:20:48top_blokewhat?
00:21:14tracktheripperlol
00:21:31tracktherippermidknight did u sort out ur differences with the_dude02?
00:22:08 Quit methangas (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- s0 d4Mn l33t |t'z 5c4rY!")
00:22:11midknight2k3wha
00:22:17midknight2k3i know hi,
00:22:25tracktheripperu and him had a bit of an argument the other day
00:22:41midknight2k3i know
00:22:44tracktheripperlol
00:22:46midknight2k3hes got a few issues
00:22:53tracktheripperwhat kind of issues?
00:23:10midknight2k3no idea? :)
00:23:34tracktheripperahh ok
00:23:40tracktheripperHave you seen the Gmini midknight?
00:24:20midknight2k3yes
00:24:30tracktheripperIm not sure if I would buy one or not
00:24:42tracktheripperI don't like the idea that you have to pay to download the extras like recording
00:24:42midknight2k3go ahead
00:24:46midknight2k3then dont!
00:24:48midknight2k3 why?
00:24:52midknight2k3it doesnt support rockbox
00:24:54midknight2k3its bigger
00:24:55midknight2k3its dumber
00:25:00midknight2k3... its $$
00:25:03midknight2k3why would you?
00:25:03tracktheripperbut it has wma........................
00:25:07top_blokeits bigger?
00:25:08tracktheripperand a blue backlight
00:25:08midknight2k3oh wow
00:25:13midknight2k3marginally yes
00:25:29tracktheripperand people say that wma has higher sound quality in small file sizes
00:25:31top_blokethe blue backlight has me sold!
00:25:38midknight2k3lol top
00:25:40tracktheripperlol
00:25:57tracktheripperBlue backlights are prettier to look at than green backlight]
00:26:27tracktheripperafter all the i**d has a bluebacklight
00:26:51midknight2k3then get the gdam gmini! please!
00:26:57midknight2k3ipods have white backlight
00:27:02midknight2k3im starting to like them a little
00:27:07midknight2k3WHAT AM I SAYING!?
00:27:09midknight2k3I HATE IPODS
00:27:13top_blokejeez
00:27:19top_blokei was worried for a sec
00:27:40tracktheripperwell you have to admit midknight that the ipods do have some status about them
00:27:51top_blokemy brother got a zen
00:27:55tracktheripperpeople will think ur cool for owning an iPod, rather than an Archos
00:27:57top_bloke40 gig
00:28:07tracktherippertopbloke they sell the 60 gigger in London now
00:28:16top_blokesweet
00:28:30midknight2k340gb zen xtra == better
00:28:41top_blokextra?
00:28:44tracktherippermidknight im referring to the 60 gig zen xtra
00:28:51tracktheripperi know what machine midknight means
00:28:55tracktheripperi saw it in the shop today
00:29:01midknight2k3me too
00:29:08midknight2k3i operated a karma, nitrus, ipod and zen today
00:29:12top_blokewhats xtra about it?
00:29:47tracktheripperbigger screen, bigger HD, blue backlight, USB2.0, supports wav, wma and MP3 (plus future codecs when the firmware upgrades arrive)
00:30:05top_blokethe blue backlight has me sold!
00:30:09midknight2k3LOL
00:30:11tracktheripperok mid out of those 4 devices u mention which one did u like most?
00:30:19midknight2k3KARMA
00:30:22midknight2k3give it to me
00:30:29tracktheripperbut midknight I think the karma is ugly to look at
00:30:32top_blokewhats karma?
00:30:51top_blokei'm gonna look it up
00:31:02tracktheripperis there a way u can change the LEDs on the Archos to blue or white LEDs?
00:31:13midknight2k3yes
00:31:16midknight2k3it looks AWESOME
00:31:20midknight2k3when they are white\
00:31:23tracktherippercool
00:31:37tracktheripperbrb need to wind up radio
00:32:01midknight2k3SHHHHHHHHHH
00:32:15tracktheripperI have a wind up radio midknight
00:32:22tracktheripperu wind the handle to charge it up
00:32:26midknight2k3WOW
00:32:28midknight2k3YOU TOLD ME
00:32:32tracktheripperi know
00:32:33midknight2k3everything about it
00:32:35midknight2k3let me guess
00:32:41midknight2k3sheez
00:32:43top_blokemy bro wont let me use his zen cause i didnt let him use my archos
00:32:50midknight2k31 minute of winding = 15 mins of playback?
00:32:51midknight2k3sheez
00:32:59tracktheripperno 1 minute of winding, 30 mins
00:33:00top_blokewind up archos!
00:33:22tracktheripperMidknight I had this wicked idea for a request :-)
00:33:55top_blokea wind up archos?
00:33:59tracktheripperSimilar
00:34:13tracktheripperTo save power, you wind the HD by hand when you need to buffer the memory
00:34:25midknight2k3uh... no.
00:34:27top_blokeu'd have to be fast
00:34:32midknight2k3duh
00:34:33midknight2k3its bogus
00:34:38midknight2k3not a real feasible
00:34:40top_blokehow fast is it
00:34:50midknight2k34200 rotations per minute
00:34:51top_bloke5400 rpm?
00:35:00tracktheripperyea
00:35:02top_blokethats some quick winding
00:35:06midknight2k370 times a second
00:35:28midknight2k3.7 x a milliesecond
00:35:42top_blokehow much in a microsecond?
00:35:47midknight2k3depends
00:35:51midknight2k3what is a microsecond?
00:35:56top_blokei dont know!
00:35:57tracktheripperbut u would have a "gearbox" so the HD turns faster than the winding handle
00:36:02top_blokeah
00:36:06top_blokehe's onto something
00:36:20top_blokei like it
00:36:32tracktheripper"i dare someone to file it"
00:37:04top_blokeits not really a rockbox request
00:37:12top_blokemore hardware
00:37:13midknight2k3its not at all
00:37:37tracktheripperwell actually it is as on the feature reqeusts there is a "hardware mod" section
00:37:42 Join thedude02 [0] (dudes@pm481-39.dialip.mich.net)
00:37:43top_blokeoh
00:37:47top_blokewell put it there
00:38:10tracktheripperhi thedude02
00:38:47thedude02hi
00:39:04tracktherippernice to see us 4 here again, you, midknight, topbloke and myself
00:39:04tracktheripper:)
00:39:16thedude02the usual quad
00:39:25tracktheripperyup
00:39:35top_blokeno doubt
00:39:36tracktheripperthe Mafia in other words
00:39:42 Join Guest75620 [0] (Mine78@host223-7.pool80117.interbusiness.it)
00:39:55top_blokerockbox mafia?
00:39:56thedude02er
00:40:06thedude02if that's what you choose to call
00:40:07thedude02it
00:41:01thedude02Is there anybody here who can deop logbot?
00:41:18top_blokeno
00:41:26top_blokelogbot rules!
00:41:35thedude02logbot sux
00:41:40top_blokein logbot i trust
00:42:04midknight2k3in shutup i ask
00:42:11top_bloke?
00:42:16midknight2k3nm
00:42:21top_blokethat no sense made
00:42:27midknight2k3yes
00:42:33top_blokeindeed
00:42:40midknight2k3i believe in logbot == i ask you to shutupo
00:42:46midknight2k3there fore, in shutup i ask
00:42:50tracktheripperhi
00:42:54top_blokewow, thats deep
00:43:09midknight2k3if you need me do /msg midknight2k3 blabla in freenode
00:43:12midknight2k3im out of this room
00:43:15midknight2k3its to busy
00:43:17 Part midknight2k3
00:43:19top_blokewow
00:43:58top_blokei'm appalled
00:44:19thedude02er
00:44:25thedude02I'll bring im back
00:44:32top_blokeyeah u do that
00:44:45 Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...")
00:46:10 Join midknight2k3 [0] (itsme@ACACD2DA.ipt.aol.com)
00:46:34midknight2k3and goodbye
00:46:36 Part midknight2k3
00:46:49thedude02craptacular
00:46:52top_blokebravo.
00:47:03top_blokeartfully done
00:48:24Guest75620can someone help me ? I got "file lenght error" when trying to play an .ajz file in mY recorder
00:48:29thedude02I'll be going now
00:48:30thedude02by
00:48:35 Quit thedude02 ()
00:48:38top_blokehow long is the filename?
00:48:48Guest75620ajbrec.ajz
00:48:53top_blokeoh
00:48:57Guest75620or others
00:49:14top_blokewhat rockbox u got?
00:49:21Guest75620V2
00:49:27Guest75620recorder
00:49:29top_bloke2.0?
00:49:29Guest75620latest rockbox
00:49:31top_blokeoh
00:49:33 Join Phool3383 [0] (Phool312@modem-2271.llama.dialup.pol.co.uk)
00:49:34Guest75620daily build
00:49:42Guest75620but I have this problem since lot of days
00:49:43Phool3383hehe
00:49:49top_blokeu rename the files at all?
00:49:57Guest75620I flashed the rocbox flash version and works fine
00:50:12top_blokeso its fine now?
00:50:15Guest75620but now I cannot play newr ajz
00:50:20top_blokeo
00:50:30Guest75620yes it works but i cannot "upgrade" to new versions
00:50:49top_blokewell u upgrade by flashing
00:50:55top_blokeright?
00:50:59top_blokeplaying a ucl
00:51:21 Join Nibbler [0] (nibbler@port-212-202-73-113.reverse.qsc.de)
00:51:27Guest75620the ucl works but when i reboot rockbox hangs
00:51:55 Quit Phool3383 (Client Quit)
00:52:03Guest75620i can flash only the "flash version" of rockbox
00:52:21Guest75620"file lenght mismatch" is the error
00:52:36Guest75620if i try to play other new ajz
00:52:41Guest75620hangs if I flash ucl
00:52:47Guest75620dunno why
00:53:03 Join midknight2k3 [0] (itsme@ACACD2DA.ipt.aol.com)
00:53:04top_blokemaybe mid can help u
00:53:09midknight2k3wha
00:53:14*midknight2k3 to the rescue!
00:53:14midknight2k3lol
00:53:38top_blokehe cant run an ajz
00:53:44midknight2k3who?
00:53:46tracktheripperhi mid
00:53:47Guest75620me
00:53:54tracktheripperdidnt' know u came back here
00:54:01top_blokeguest explain your problem
00:54:03midknight2k3which model?
00:54:05midknight2k3yes please
00:54:07Guest75620It's a V2
00:54:23Guest75620when i try to play newer ajz files i go "file lenght mismatch"
00:54:39midknight2k3did you get the right download?
00:54:42Guest75620it works only with "flash edition" ucl or ajz files or older
00:54:46Guest75620yes i did
00:54:47top_blokehis box is flashed
00:54:49midknight2k3its "v2 recorder" at daily build
00:54:53midknight2k3wait
00:54:57Guest75620yes I downloaded it
00:55:00midknight2k3the v2 that looks like an fm recorder?
00:55:07 Quit Nibbler (Client Quit)
00:55:12Guest75620i tryed even the f,m version
00:55:15tracktheripperI still wonder why Archos removed the FM tuner
00:55:25Guest75620maybe I still have it inside
00:55:34 Join Arnaud [0] (~asl@adsl.hlfl.org)
00:55:34midknight2k3wait
00:55:37midknight2k3the v2 that looks like an fm recorder?
00:55:47midknight2k3its roundish in front?
00:55:53midknight2k3liion battery?
00:55:59Guest75620no liion battery
00:56:11top_blokethen its a regular rec
00:56:24Guest75620but it's written v2 inside
00:56:27Guest75620in the rom
00:56:34midknight2k3oh
00:56:38midknight2k3it flashed?\
00:56:42Guest75620yeah
00:56:47midknight2k3hmm
00:56:51midknight2k3well anyways
00:56:54midknight2k3it uses AAs then?
00:57:01Guest75620yes
00:57:02Guest75620 4
00:57:17midknight2k3ok
00:57:17midknight2k3hmm
00:57:19midknight2k3so
00:57:37top_blokethey make a v2 with AAs?
00:57:38midknight2k3go to http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml
00:57:41midknight2k3oh wait
00:57:44midknight2k3its not a v2
00:57:46midknight2k3its a v2
00:57:53Guest75620???
00:57:56top_bloke?
00:58:00midknight2k3theres 2 v2's
00:58:06midknight2k31 is a rec with v2 boot rom
00:58:08Guest75620Now I tryed to use the regular recorder ajz and ucl
00:58:14Guest75620THAT'S WORKS !
00:58:16midknight2k31 is a fmrec without the "fm" in the name
00:58:21midknight2k3works?
00:58:22top_blokei see
00:58:23midknight2k3there ya go
00:58:33top_blokei thought theres only one
00:58:33midknight2k3v2 recorder is for a different recorder
00:58:38midknight2k3not a v2 boot rom recorder
00:58:47Guest75620can u tell me where exactly to look to see rom version ?
00:58:56midknight2k3menu -debug - hw info
00:59:17Guest75620ROM 1.28
00:59:24Guest75620Mask:0x0302
00:59:41Guest75620Flash: M=BF D=D6
00:59:50Guest75620Boot ROM = None
01:00
01:00:02*midknight2k3 raises eyebrows
01:00:09top_bloke?
01:00:11midknight2k3Boot ROM = None?
01:00:13midknight2k3thats what it says?
01:00:18Guest75620yes
01:00:29Guest75620past days it told V2
01:00:40midknight2k3hmmmmmmm
01:00:41Guest75620now I flashed it with the latest ucl for regular recorders
01:00:43midknight2k3and it flashed?
01:00:51Guest75620yes and works
01:00:53top_blokehe flashed a v2 rockbox on a regular rec?
01:01:00midknight2k3no...
01:01:07midknight2k3he flashed rockbox on a v2 regular rec
01:01:12top_blokeoh
01:01:35Guest75620so 2 versions of V2 exists, hardware and software , right ?
01:02:09Guest75620if u want I can send u my dumps
01:02:29top_blokecan u get the regular v2 archos fw onto a regualr rec?
01:02:55midknight2k3wait
01:03:05Guest75620I tryed to use the rockbox for V2 in mine and It doesn't work
01:03:22Guest75620If i play the ajz it says "file lenght mismatch"
01:03:34Guest75620if i flash it works but hangs at startup
01:03:53Guest75620i have to hold F1 to use the regular version
01:04:01top_blokethat says v2?
01:04:12midknight2k3wait
01:04:16midknight2k3nono
01:04:18Guest75620ok
01:04:20midknight2k3you got it wrong
01:04:48midknight2k3there are 2 "v2";s
01:05:12midknight2k3one type of v2 is a recorder that has a different boot rom than normal recorders... same thing except uses different type of flash ROM
01:05:35midknight2k3the other type is an fm recorder model that they stripped of FM capabilities and removed "fm" from the model name
01:05:42midknight2k3the one in question uses different flash rom
01:05:44midknight2k3get it?
01:05:47Guest75620yes
01:05:58midknight2k3that was directed at toppy
01:06:00top_blokewell can u get the archos v2 rom onto a regualr old rec?
01:06:05midknight2k3no
01:06:07midknight2k3who said that
01:06:15midknight2k3top: youre confusing me
01:06:17midknight2k3just husy
01:06:19midknight2k3hush*(
01:06:19top_blokejust asking
01:06:21midknight2k3HUSH*
01:06:24midknight2k3no you cant
01:06:28midknight2k3thats unanswerable
01:06:33top_blokewell its not a different hardware
01:06:36midknight2k3some have v2 boot rom already
01:06:38Guest75620I suppose that if rockbox for V2 doesn't work even archos'V2 doesn't
01:06:39midknight2k3yes it is
01:06:58midknight2k3Guest75620: you got it wrong
01:07:08midknight2k3v2 rockbox is for the last type, different model (fmr without fm)
01:07:19midknight2k3if you have v2 boot rom then you still have a normal recorder
01:07:24top_blokeyeah
01:07:26midknight2k3just minor hardware difference
01:07:36top_blokeso there is a difference?
01:07:39Guest75620But can someone prevent the flashing of V2-rockbox in the unit I have ?
01:07:54Guest75620tha ajz says errors, but the ucl no
01:08:00top_blokeyours should be called v1.5
01:08:10midknight2k3if you accidentally flash the wrong ucl you can just do f1+on
01:08:17midknight2k3then use an ajbrec.ajz to reflash
01:08:19Guest75620as I already did
01:08:24midknight2k3correct.
01:08:29Guest75620but it's really annoying
01:08:34midknight2k3sorry to hear
01:08:41midknight2k3dont get v2 rockbox anymore
01:08:45Guest75620now that I know I will not make the moistake again
01:09:07Guest75620I thank you SO much man !!!
01:09:10top_blokethey should make it more clear
01:09:21Guest75620now my rockbox is up-to-date ;)
01:09:34midknight2k3no problem
01:09:38midknight2k3top: i know
01:09:41midknight2k3confusing
01:09:47 Quit Arnaud (Remote closed the connection)
01:09:48top_blokefor real
01:09:58Guest75620(I hoped to have a real v2 hardware :-P )
01:10:06top_blokeits a conspiracy by archos
01:10:12top_bloketo try to confuse everyone
01:10:59Guest75620can I say another little thing ?
01:11:04 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-118-0-94.mn.client2.attbi.com)
01:11:21midknight2k3yes?
01:11:32Guest75620Sometimes, when I try to copy files on archos, the transfer says "complete" but when I try to play the mp3 it's weired
01:11:48midknight2k3what do you use to rip
01:12:01Guest75620so I dig into the problem and discovered this: the copy operation is LONGER than what windows says
01:12:15Guest75620it causes lost-chains-data
01:12:30Guest75620i had to use chkdsk /f from the dos prompt to correct it
01:12:37top_blokedamn windows
01:12:48top_blokedo u safely remove?
01:13:31Guest75620practically the file was still on the archos (yes, i always safely remove) and it couldn't be deleted from windows, only form archos, but the funny is that when u reconnect it to windows the files are still there
01:13:40Guest75620only chkdsk /f solved that
01:13:46top_blokewow i just saw a pic of the karma
01:13:50top_blokelooks sweet
01:14:31midknight2k3track thinks its UGLY
01:14:36midknight2k3he thinks black sucks
01:15:08top_blokei like it except the controls are in a bad spot
01:15:15midknight2k3you gotta hold it
01:15:18midknight2k3its good spot when you do
01:15:28top_blokeok
01:15:30midknight2k3your thumb sits on the joystick
01:15:34Guest75620what is karma ?
01:15:35midknight2k3your finger on the scroll wheel
01:15:41midknight2k3http://rioaudio.com
01:15:45top_blokedont your hand cover the screen?
01:15:57midknight2k3no
01:16:00midknight2k3you dont hold it sideways
01:16:02midknight2k3LOL
01:16:04top_blokeok
01:16:20Guest75620anyone tried the chip8 emulator ?
01:16:24top_blokeyeah
01:16:29top_blokethe games suck
01:16:33Guest75620it's really UGLY !
01:16:37Guest75620(i mean karma)
01:16:44top_blokefugly
01:17:03midknight2k3why
01:17:09Guest75620how much does it costs ?
01:17:12top_blokepug fugly
01:17:16midknight2k3350
01:17:19top_bloke350
01:17:20Guest75620it seems a car-remote-controller
01:17:26Guest75620WOW ! Expensive !
01:17:56midknight2k3not at all
01:18:02top_blokemy bro got his zen 40 for $300
01:18:10top_blokei think its a good deal
01:18:12midknight2k3crossfader, ogg + flac playback, dock station, super UI, nice lcd
01:18:27top_blokebut only 20 gb on the karma
01:18:48midknight2k3SO?
01:18:50Guest75620so the hardware is great !
01:18:55midknight2k3yes
01:19:00midknight2k3its super nice lcd
01:19:02midknight2k3great ui
01:19:04Guest75620but the aesthetics...
01:19:10midknight2k3oh forget it
01:19:10top_blokearchos owns them all anyway!
01:19:17midknight2k3you are about as bright as a 2 watt bulb
01:19:20midknight2k3lol
01:19:22top_blokeand ipod is sleek
01:19:23tracktheripper:))
01:19:24zei like the way the karma looks
01:19:25tracktheripper:D
01:19:29tracktheripperi like that mid
01:19:35Guest75620karma is really the worst-looking
01:19:36zeand they're coming out with >20G versions aren't they?
01:19:43midknight2k3they canceled the 40gb one
01:19:48midknight2k3they might do it later
01:19:49top_blokewhy?
01:19:52midknight2k3no idea
01:20:00zewhere'd you hear that?
01:20:08midknight2k3i know it
01:20:11Guest75620thank u so much again ! see you soon !
01:20:14midknight2k3they. have. canceled. it.
01:20:18midknight2k3see you mr. 2 watt
01:20:20Guest75620(good night)
01:20:22midknight2k3i mean mr. Guest75620
01:20:27midknight2k3ok night
01:20:30Guest75620I know ^_^
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01:20:54top_bloke*1 GB equals 1,000,000,000 bytes
01:21:49top_blokei thought it was like 1024^3
01:22:08zehardware makers go by units of 1000, everything else goes by 1024
01:22:12midknight2k3thats the way they do it
01:22:15top_blokeah
01:22:27tracktheripperwhy is that anyway
01:22:36top_bloketo rip u off
01:22:37zeso they make you think you're getting more than you are
01:22:43tracktherippergo by the 1,000 instead of 1,024
01:22:43top_blokeits all a conspiracy
01:22:44midknight2k3they all do it
01:23:01tracktheripperor is it convienent to round down to 1,000
01:23:06top_blokeso thats why my archos only has 18 gb on it
01:23:14midknight2k318.5 gb
01:23:28top_blokebastards
01:23:41zewtf 5 out of 7 of google's text ads that come up when i search for rio karma
01:23:43zeare all amazon.com
01:24:00midknight2k3lol
01:24:02top_blokeits all a conspiracy
01:24:33zemost of them say affiliate but all www.amazon.com
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01:34:01midknight2k3hi scott
01:37:37midknight2k3hi toppy
01:37:37midknight2k3OH YEAH
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02:16:01midknight2k3toppy
02:16:06midknight2k3COME BAHAHACCCK!
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02:57:43midknight2k3hi acid
02:57:47midknight2k3hi scott
02:57:50AciD`hey midknight2k3
02:58:01midknight2k3having fun
02:58:44zefeel like doing something but there's nothing to do and i got shit to do but don't feel like doing
02:59:12midknight2k3Ahahah
02:59:20midknight2k3what to do
03:00
03:01:44ze 6:01pm up 53 days, 16:42, 5 users, load average: 1.03, 1.08, 1.11
03:02:25midknight2k3what you need to do
03:02:58zefigure out xmas presents for everybody and make them
03:03:06midknight2k3nice..
03:05:04zei dunno wtf to make for anybody though
03:05:05zeheh
03:05:19midknight2k3lol
03:05:38midknight2k3how about a nice {Photoshop} Filter - Render -> Difference Clouds?
03:05:52zeheh man
03:05:55zewhen this other render's finished
03:06:07zei'm gonna do another render of that cloud thing
03:06:08midknight2k3lol
03:06:14zewith all the same settings and everything
03:06:19zeexcept the camera moved over the right amount
03:06:34zeand then put the 2 images together with one red-filtered and the other blue-filtered
03:06:44zeso you can look at it with 3D glasses and see the depth of the cloud in 3D
03:07:08zeso that you can stfu about yer dumb little idea of it being photoshop rendered, which is ridiculous to start with but oh well
03:07:09midknight2k3oh great
03:07:11zeheh
03:07:15midknight2k3lol
03:09:13midknight2k3ze?
03:09:17zeplus, you know, it'll look even cooler in 3D
03:09:17midknight2k3hows the ze..N
03:09:21midknight2k3BO RING
03:09:32midknight2k3hows the zen
03:09:34midknight2k3boo ring
03:09:41midknight2k3wheres your blog again? its funny
03:09:47zethe zen is nice
03:09:52zei want a karma though
03:09:53zeheh
03:10:00midknight2k3i turned you onto those
03:10:06midknight2k3wheres your bloG!?!?!?!?!?!
03:10:09zethe blog's been moved and changed and stuff
03:10:18midknight2k3well
03:10:20midknight2k3where is it
03:10:20zei host it myself and run movabletype on my server now
03:10:23midknight2k3its still funny
03:10:24zefree-zero.yi.org
03:10:28zethe old blog is in /old/
03:10:38midknight2k3http://free-zero.yi.org
03:10:50zeit's skinnable now too
03:10:57ze3 styles to choose from
03:11:02midknight2k3HAHAHAHA
03:11:06midknight2k3blog city rocks
03:11:25zei'm talking about in the browser
03:11:30midknight2k3aol: as in aol instant messenger: ?
03:11:33zei can use whatever kinda look i want
03:11:35midknight2k3oh i see
03:12:45midknight2k3you ignore me!
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03:37:07thedude02hey
03:37:30midknight2k3i could have guessed.
03:37:40thedude02I know.
03:37:44thedude02why you so sour?
03:38:17thedude02Why are you sour?
03:38:22midknight2k3i said nothing sound
03:38:25midknight2k3sour*
03:38:27zebecause his love for me is going unrequited
03:38:31midknight2k3i said: 18:37:26 | <midknight2k3> i could have guessed.
03:38:51thedude02yeah
03:38:58thedude02that implies sourness
03:39:05thedude02anyways you're unsour
03:39:07thedude02er
03:39:10thedude02uhm
03:39:23thedude02where should this conversation go?
03:39:41thedude02as long as nobody uses this channel for rockbox stuff we can use it for chitchat
03:39:50zeit should go bowling
03:39:58thedude02that's a GRWAT idea!
03:40:03thedude02I wish
03:40:07thedude02GREAT
03:40:39thedude02er
03:40:51thedude02what's the cheapest archos you can get?
03:40:59thedude02that will run rockbox?
03:41:00midknight2k3haha
03:41:03midknight2k3dude wants an archos
03:41:10thedude02I'm curios
03:41:12thedude02indeed
03:41:13zelike uh probably the player 6k
03:41:22midknight2k3prolly $100-$150
03:41:26thedude02K
03:41:29midknight2k3if you get it the right place
03:41:32zedepends on the kinda deal you get
03:41:38zesomebody got a rec20 for like $90
03:41:45midknight2k3$80
03:41:49thedude02and if I get one you'll start on IT for it, won't you?
03:42:03zeIT for it?
03:42:07thedude02er
03:42:16thedude02www.freelunchdesign.com/games.shtml
03:42:22thedude02Icy Tower
03:42:27midknight2k3no way
03:42:30midknight2k3lol
03:42:39thedude02you said that when I get one you'll do it
03:42:51midknight2k3oh yeah
03:42:54midknight2k3in that case
03:42:59midknight2k3they cost $200 ish
03:43:05thedude02lol
03:43:12thedude02I'll try find one
03:43:19midknight2k3and, not get it.
03:43:19thedude02real cheap
03:43:25thedude02and get it
03:43:36zeheh
03:43:42zeif you wanna play games get a pda
03:43:43thedude02but not before I get the money
03:43:48thedude02I have 2 pdas
03:44:08thedude02One's cool, one really sicks
03:44:10thedude02sucks
03:44:13zewell those games are no good for the archos
03:44:17zeespecially not for the players
03:44:19thedude02I know
03:44:27zethe recorders could maybe possibly do some crappy version of something like that
03:44:45thedude02yeah well mid and me - we had a conversation a while back
03:44:58midknight2k3who said my name
03:44:59zethe karma has 16 levels of gray so it could do better stuff
03:45:11zeit's also got a joystick thingy and a scrollwheel
03:45:17midknight2k3ze: nice tip
03:45:18zeor jogdial whatever
03:45:21midknight2k3lol
03:45:23thedude02he agreed to start making it, with like floors and just a box that jumps around, if and when I get an archos
03:45:25midknight2k3stealing MY FACTS
03:45:26zeexcept there's no rockbox for the karma
03:45:33thedude02er
03:45:36thedude02port?
03:45:52midknight2k3yeah
03:45:59midknight2k3go ahead and break the encryption
03:46:02midknight2k3lets see your stuff
03:46:06thedude02lol
03:46:06zeheh
03:46:14thedude02I don't know C/C++
03:46:18midknight2k3lol
03:46:21zelearn by doing
03:46:21midknight2k3obviously
03:46:22zethats what i do
03:46:30midknight2k3anyone who would say "c/c++" doesnt know it
03:46:41midknight2k3i can nearly guarantee it
03:46:52zemidknight2k3: and what kind of guarantee is this
03:46:55thedude02I only know HTML, QBasic, Russian, Hebrew, learning French, and duh, English
03:47:09midknight2k3really? interesting!
03:47:12midknight2k3any more fun facts?
03:47:13zeno latin?
03:47:17thedude02no
03:47:21thedude02latin's boring
03:47:23thedude02except that
03:47:27zewhy?
03:47:32thedude02wigonow means axe
03:47:33zethere's all kinds of nifty stuff written in latin
03:47:49thedude02that's about all I know
03:47:55zeer
03:47:58thedude02I don't know how to spell it even
03:48:00zei don't think latin even has a w
03:48:00zeheh
03:48:08zeor it sortof does but it's spelled v
03:48:16zeheh
03:48:24thedude02we er were having a conversation in the car with my friend who takes latin
03:48:34zehow do you pronounce it
03:48:41thedude02his teacher teaches his class random cool words
03:48:48thedude02you pronounce it "we go now"
03:48:53midknight2k3define "cool"
03:49:01thedude02er
03:49:05thedude02it is a variable
03:49:15midknight2k3either that or you attempt to sound smart
03:49:21midknight2k3in this case, define "cool"
03:49:26thedude02er
03:49:29thedude02can't
03:49:33midknight2k3sadly
03:49:40midknight2k3use a word but cannot define it
03:49:44thedude02you'd better ask him [my friend]
03:49:49zehmm like
03:49:59zei dunno how you'd spell and ow sound in latin
03:49:59thedude02er?
03:50:08thedude02er.
03:50:10midknight2k3dude: you mean your friend said they were "cool"?
03:50:14zes/and/an/
03:50:15thedude02er
03:50:33midknight2k3and you just took that idea and copied it and pasted it here?
03:50:34thedude02oui
03:50:42thedude02exactimo
03:50:52thedude02er
03:50:57thedude02not exactly
03:50:58zei wanna learn french
03:51:01midknight2k3er
03:51:03midknight2k3can you stop
03:51:04midknight2k3er
03:51:05midknight2k3the er's?
03:51:06thedude02I remebered it and then er
03:51:13thedude02er
03:51:15thedude02uhm
03:51:19thedude02isd uhm better?
03:51:21thedude02uhm
03:51:31zeer uhm eh hmm
03:51:35midknight2k3just dont type what you are thingking
03:51:39midknight2k3you might break something
03:52:03thedude02ze: We have a cool teacher too
03:52:06midknight2k3if you have stopped to attempt to access unretrievable data i dont need to know
03:52:15thedude02we're having a cheese party on monday
03:52:21midknight2k3a CHEESE party?
03:52:21zeit's never irretrievable
03:52:24thedude02and we made crepes a while back
03:52:30thedude02cheese tasting
03:52:35midknight2k3right..
03:52:36zecool
03:52:39midknight2k3what class is this?
03:52:41midknight2k3special ed?
03:52:42zeyou gonna have a wine tasting party too?
03:52:44thedude02French]
03:52:47thedude02nah
03:52:50thedude02illegal
03:53:00zeoh, whats this a highschool class or something?
03:53:04thedude02no
03:53:05thedude02er
03:53:08thedude026th grade
03:53:11zeoh
03:53:15zehehe
03:53:16zei see
03:53:34zei don't remember having french available in 6th grade
03:53:35ze:/
03:53:53thedude02In my school you get a different foreign language teacher in high school than middle school. Big bummer.
03:54:02midknight2k3oh no!
03:54:04midknight2k3let's cry!
03:54:13midknight2k3you cant keep your "coolly undefinable" teacher!
03:54:18thedude02Because my school is so tiny, 6-12grade, 500kids TOTAL (actually 480
03:54:20zein fact my 6th grade was still a 1-teacher sorta deal.. except 2 teachers switched classes for half the 2nd semester
03:54:29thedude02er
03:54:32thedude02uhm,
03:54:41thedude02it's hard to describe our system
03:54:56zeheh
03:54:57thedude02homerooms
03:55:03thedude02would sum it up in one word
03:55:33ze6-12, 480 kids, i think that tells me enough
03:55:35zeheh
03:55:46thedude02and bloody expensive too
03:55:52thedude02called Greenhills
03:56:01zei went to public schools
03:56:03thedude02in case you've heard of it
03:56:10zedid 5th grade on in one town
03:56:16thedude02I've never been in a public school
03:56:25zebut went to 4 different schools in that town
03:56:27thedude02where do you live
03:56:35zenot counting a bit of home schooling
03:56:44zecalifornia
03:56:47thedude02oh
03:57:00zethat was in yucaipa
03:57:32zewhich is a bit of a small town, but still have several elementry schools, a middle school, a jr high, and a highschool
03:57:48thedude02jr high and middle...
03:57:51thedude02difference?
03:58:11zethe elementries were k-5, middle was 6 & 7, jr high was 8 & 9, and highschool was 10-12
03:58:19thedude02ah
03:58:23thedude02here it's
03:58:43thedude02elementary k-5, middle 6-8, high 9-12
03:58:50zeyeah
03:58:55zethats how most places are i think
03:59:05zeor k-6, 7-8, 9-12
03:59:10thedude02there are some districts in this area that have moved it on a year so
03:59:20thedude02k-6, 7-9, 10-12
03:59:35midknight2k3its k-5, 6-8, 9-12
03:59:40thedude02as there are 5 secs left till 10:00
03:59:43thedude02now
03:59:43zepublic education is crap
03:59:48thedude02indeed
03:59:50thedude02I agree
04:00
04:00:04thedude02not that I have evr been to a public aschool to see what it's like
04:00:14zei can't speak about private education, but from what i've heard they seem to be mostly the same thing but with a bigger budget and often more religious-oriented (which is bad imo)
04:00:36zestill seems to be all about repetitive tasks
04:00:40thedude02mine is not religious oriented, which I also agree is a bad thing
04:00:47zewhich isn't real education
04:01:01thedude02bigger budget...
04:01:05thedude02you could say that
04:01:14thedude02all these budget cuts here and everywhere
04:01:24zewell
04:01:30thedude02I live in the hometown of the University of Michigan
04:01:34zei dunno about "bigger" per se but as far as ratio of money:student
04:01:57thedude02it costs as much as instate admissions to UofM
04:02:08thedude02around $15,000/yr
04:02:08zeheh
04:02:40thedude02Ann Arbor, MI, is that town
04:02:57thedude02a town of around 130,000 people + 20,000 students
04:03:20thedude02a pretty rich one too
04:03:40zeheh
04:03:49thedude02all the rich people of Michigan live in a half-hour-freeway-driving radius from the center of towm
04:03:51thedude02n
04:04:00zeheh
04:04:08thedude02that is if you were driving at a constant 70mph which you wouldn't be
04:04:17midknight2k3lol
04:04:24thedude02except on the freeway where you would be driving 90
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04:05:04zeheh :p
04:05:06midknight2k3lol
04:05:13thedude02heh
04:05:17zeand i said something between that well and 1st heh
04:05:55midknight2k3dude: no need to copy
04:06:02zeheh
04:06:19thedude02yah]
04:06:56thedude02I think I'll be going to bed soonly
04:07:02midknight2k3good
04:07:05zenight
04:07:13thedude02not yet
04:07:38midknight2k3ah rats
04:07:43midknight2k3let me know when you do
04:07:58thedude02that should protect the edges of my subwoofer from my butt
04:08:10midknight2k3whatever
04:08:16thedude02you see
04:08:25thedude02I sit on a big blue ball when computing
04:09:59thedude02and my subwoofer is so outrageoulsy enormous that it's bigger than the computer box itself, so I have a habit of rolling iff the ball and sitting my butt down on the edge of the subwoofer which is somewhat more comfortable than sitting on the ball, but not always. And it also grunges up the edge of the subwoofer, so I have a now rather thick layer of Scotch tape covering the edge an the corners.
04:10:06thedude02dang that was long.
04:10:28midknight2k3must be a piece of crap subwoofer
04:10:37midknight2k3unless you weigh a few hundred pounds
04:10:47thedude02it has two 8-inch drivers in it
04:11:00midknight2k3oh yeah its your ada995 432.737 watt dell exclusive thx certified subwoofers right
04:11:03thedude02totaling up to 96watts
04:11:07thedude02no
04:11:50thedude02ADA995 200watt Dell-branded altec lansing THX certified 5.1 surround sound speaker system
04:12:08midknight2k3yeah yeah
04:12:13midknight2k3stupid as usual
04:12:23thedude02but perfectly true
04:12:27midknight2k3but stupid
04:12:34thedude02not stupid
04:12:36thedude02useless
04:12:41midknight2k3yes
04:12:43midknight2k3stupid
04:12:44thedude02and rather pointless too
04:12:49thedude02no, not stupid
04:12:51midknight2k3useless IS pointless
04:12:56thedude02pointless and useless
04:12:57thedude02no
04:13:06midknight2k3are you sure that wasnt a special ed class you were talking about?
04:13:12thedude02it could have a point to it, but it could be absolutely useless
04:13:18thedude02er...?
04:13:28thedude02oh
04:13:43thedude02yes I'm sure it wasn't a special ed class I was talking about
04:13:53midknight2k3positive?
04:13:58midknight2k3i'm sure you'd love to deny it
04:14:06thedude02but it does fit my description of my special ed classes
04:14:17midknight2k3yes
04:14:19thedude02*one of my special ed classes
04:14:20midknight2k3denial
04:14:35thedude02*THE description
04:14:38thedude02anwyays
04:14:42midknight2k3such as "Period One: Learn To Write ABC's!"
04:14:45thedude02g'night
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04:47:26midknight2k3TOPPY
04:48:33top_blokeguess who's back
04:48:44top_bloke(back again)
04:48:51top_bloketop_bloke's back
04:48:56top_bloke(tell a friend)
04:49:51zedon't let it bring you down, it's only castles burning.. just find someone who's turning, and you will come around
04:50:01midknight2k3shutup
04:50:08midknight2k3who can i tell
04:50:08top_blokeuh
04:50:10midknight2k3i can tell you toppu
04:50:15midknight2k3TOPPY: TOPPY'S BACK!
04:50:20top_blokeyour friend!
04:50:27top_bloketell someone
04:50:42zeyeah i guess eminem and neil young don't really mix eh?
04:50:44top_blokeu cant tell me
04:50:51midknight2k319:48:30 | <top_bloke> guess who's back
04:50:51midknight2k319:48:41 | <top_bloke> (back again)
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04:50:56top_blokeno they do not
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04:51:02zeand yet i have and listen to both
04:51:03ze:p
04:51:13top_blokemaybe if someone did a remix
04:52:07zei might do a cover of neil young-
04:52:11zebut i dunno about any remixes
04:52:42top_blokean eminem remix of a neil young song
04:53:00top_blokelike with aerosmith
04:53:24ze*shrug*
04:53:26zeprobably never happen
04:53:31zeand he'd probably fuck it up anyway
04:53:41top_blokeyes
04:53:46top_blokehe would
04:53:46zei'm a big fan of tori amos
04:53:52zebut i don't even like her neil young cover
04:53:59zei also like the song she covered
04:54:03zejust not her version of it
04:54:12midknight2k3or
04:54:12midknight2k3mayve
04:54:13midknight2k3maybe*
04:54:15midknight2k3like with stupid toppy
04:54:23top_blokenever heard her music
04:54:25midknight2k3YOU CANT DO THAT WITHOUT BING KICKED
04:54:28midknight2k3THATS UNFAIR
04:54:31midknight2k3WHAT A BIASED BOT
04:54:32top_blokeheard the name somewhere
04:55:25top_blokehes not biased at all
04:55:35midknight2k3YES HE IS
04:55:37top_blokehe kicks everyone equally
04:55:37midknight2k3SHUTUP
04:55:39midknight2k3TOOPY
04:55:41midknight2k3SHUTSH
04:55:44midknight2k3shez
04:55:46midknight2k3df
04:56:04top_blokelol toopy
04:56:09zeheh
04:56:12midknight2k3whereterver
04:56:33top_bloke?
04:56:38zemidknight2k3: you need to find peace, man
04:56:50midknight2k3what?
04:56:51zemidknight2k3: hold yourself in the center of balance, find calm
04:56:57midknight2k3ok
04:56:58top_blokeyes, youre too moody
04:56:58midknight2k3there it is
04:57:01midknight2k3i can't reach it
04:57:08zejust stop
04:57:13top_blokefind nirvana
04:57:14zedon't think about it, don't reach for it, don't try
04:57:16zejust stop and be
04:57:17midknight2k3directed at me, ze?
04:57:34zeyes
04:57:39zejust quiet your mind and be in the moment
04:57:59top_blokeu do yoga?
04:58:17zei don't do anything like that
04:58:31midknight2k3lolol
04:58:34top_blokei tried once
04:58:46zei'd like to study martial arts
04:58:50top_blokeits not me
04:58:55zespecifically aikido kokikai
04:59:13top_blokesounds complicated
04:59:22zethere's only 2 dojo's in the state for it though, and they're both a few hours drive away
04:59:43zeactually it's pretty simple
04:59:58zethats why it appeals to me, they've taken a lot of martial arts principles to a more generalized level
05:00
05:00:25midknight2k3BOOO
05:00:27midknight2k3SHUTUP
05:00:28midknight2k3HISS
05:00:30top_blokei see
05:00:41top_blokesee
05:00:53top_blokeyou need to calm down
05:00:56zehehe
05:00:57zeyeah
05:01:30top_blokeze is right
05:02:20zehey maybe i should find those alan watts mp3's
05:02:21midknight2k3i dont
05:02:23midknight2k3lol
05:02:24midknight2k3BORRING
05:02:49top_blokedo u have ADD?
05:02:50midknight2k3as87digit: /WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWOAAAAAAAAAHHHASDAHSDHAFADO G
05:02:50midknight2k3as87digit: BWHAFHDSJGf
05:03:09top_blokei'll take that as a yes
05:03:16midknight2k3me?
05:03:19top_blokelol
05:03:26top_blokeno
05:03:46ze:p
05:03:52zehey you know i might actually too
05:04:06top_blokethe OTHER midknight2k3
05:04:08zeapparently when i was a kid some doctor want'd to put me on ritalin but my mom wouldn't let him
05:04:22midknight2k3?
05:04:22top_blokeeveryone has ADD these days
05:04:34top_blokeaccording to the doctors
05:04:37zewell yeah
05:04:55zebetween the way television has gotten and the inane uninteresting crap they try to force you to pay attention to in school
05:04:58zeit's no wonder
05:06:14top_blokefor real
05:06:35zekids are growing up adjusting to excitment and quick flipping around between things, meanwhile they're stuck into the most drab settings and force-fed the most unimportant aspects of everything
05:06:51zeoh well, dinner's ready, bbl
05:06:56top_blokewow, thats deep
05:06:59midknight2k3lol
05:07:08midknight2k3cut the philosophical junk please
05:07:17top_blokemakes u think
05:07:23midknight2k3yeah
05:07:25midknight2k3that ze has problems
05:07:27midknight2k3multiple ones
05:07:36top_blokeit does
05:07:42midknight2k3yes
05:07:50midknight2k3it does make you think.. that ze has multiple problems
05:08:09top_blokeyou diagnose everyone with problems
05:08:27midknight2k3yes
05:08:31midknight2k3ze's problem is me
05:08:35midknight2k3your problem is me
05:08:39midknight2k3everyones problem is me
05:08:42midknight2k3my problem is everyone
05:09:03top_blokewow
05:09:36midknight2k3i think so
05:09:42midknight2k3i have large problems do i not
05:10:10top_blokethats deep too
05:10:13top_blokenah youre fine
05:11:46midknight2k3you really think so?
05:12:12top_blokeyeah youre just moody
05:12:19midknight2k3oh what now
05:12:22midknight2k3moody?
05:12:25midknight2k3IL BUST YOUR FACE IN!
05:12:30midknight2k3i mean,
05:12:36midknight2k3i do not understand
05:12:41top_blokelol
05:12:49top_blokelolol
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05:29:15midknight2k3ADSF
05:29:19midknight2k3DFFAD
05:49:51midknight2k3hi toppy
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06:15:13midknight2k3A HA
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07:17:21zeooo i know what i could make for everybody
07:17:27zecards!
07:17:30zebut extra-special cards
07:17:31midknight2k3WOW
07:17:34midknight2k3CARDS
07:17:39midknight2k3WHAT A GREAT INVENTION
07:17:43zeheh :p
07:17:48zei haven't ever really like
07:17:54zegiven christmas presents
07:18:00midknight2k3extra special cards.. with a note inside?
07:18:05midknight2k3ooh
07:18:09midknight2k3"ultra tight"
07:18:12zeso like getting something from me's gonna be special for everybody :p
07:18:16midknight2k3lol
07:18:21zeand i'm gonna make the cards myself
07:18:30zeand they will be special :p
07:18:35zei can do some spiffy stuff to them
07:18:42midknight2k3oh
07:18:45zeand do them all pro-style and slick and personalized and everything
07:18:47midknight2k3your little difference clouds
07:19:06midknight2k3"heres some difference clouds just for you"
07:19:16zewe've got like leet printers and all kinds of special paper and a laser engraver and etc
07:19:25midknight2k3LASER ENGRAVER?
07:19:30zeuh huh
07:19:31midknight2k3can i come over? lol
07:19:33zeno :p
07:19:37midknight2k3aww
07:19:38zeit's a $16k machine
07:19:44midknight2k3WHAT
07:19:49midknight2k3what does it do exactly
07:19:55zedo you know what a plotter is?
07:20:01midknight2k3i think so
07:20:03midknight2k3define.
07:20:31zewell it has like an area, and it moves this thing around it to cut stuff out, whatever shapes you print to it from a computer
07:20:46midknight2k3yeah
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07:20:54zewell this thing is like one of those except with a 45watt co2 laser that can do raster and vector engraving and vector cutting
07:21:08midknight2k3wow
07:21:10midknight2k3oh
07:21:16zeit can't cut or engrave metal, though it can mark it... you'd need a yag laser for that
07:21:30zebut it can engrave (but not cut) glass, and cut and engrave wood and plastic and misc other stuff
07:21:34midknight2k3i remember i once gave you a set of idea for your glass cutter or something to make a straight line or something?
07:21:43zeyes, it's that machine
07:21:44zeheh
07:21:46midknight2k3like the speed and power and stuff
07:21:48midknight2k3thats it?
07:21:59midknight2k3what were you making then? did you ever get good settings?
07:22:11zei was trying to make scratch-holograms, and no never got good settings
07:22:22midknight2k3what are the parameters
07:22:25midknight2k3ill get good ones
07:22:46zethe thing is the laser mostly makes microscopic chips in the glass... which is good for engraving because it gives it a nice frosted appearance, but it's bad for scratch holograms which need a smooth shiny line
07:22:52midknight2k3format: option (settings)
07:23:04midknight2k3i can get good settings for smooth shiny line
07:23:08midknight2k3give me the parameters
07:23:11midknight2k3i get good settings
07:23:14zewe already tried that remember?
07:23:16midknight2k3but
07:23:18midknight2k3that was
07:23:20midknight2k3i
07:23:21midknight2k3uh
07:23:22midknight2k3sorta
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07:23:24zeheh
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07:23:28zehaha :p
07:23:29midknight2k3ARGH
07:23:32midknight2k3well
07:23:33zebut yeah
07:23:33midknight2k3anyways
07:23:35zeCARDS!
07:23:36midknight2k3try again?
07:23:44midknight2k3i Get Good cordinates
07:23:45zei can do stuff with wood and plastic and etc to add onto the cards
07:23:52midknight2k3i wanna see this
07:23:53midknight2k3send me one
07:23:54midknight2k3lol
07:23:55zei could even make cards out of the wood and plastic and etc
07:23:59midknight2k3"happy birthday from ze"
07:24:17zeand also cut out stuff from the cardstock or whatever the cards printed on
07:24:21zeand do various nifty things
07:24:27midknight2k3send me one
07:24:37midknight2k3i want to see this "nifty"
07:24:55zehell i might not even do it knowing my lazy ass
07:25:02zebut if i do i'll try to take pictures ok?
07:25:02zeheh
07:25:07midknight2k3but if you do send me one k ok
07:25:18midknight2k3"if" "try"
07:25:29zei still need to do some other stuff that i need to fucking blah
07:25:30zeheh
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07:25:45midknight2k322:25:25 | <02ze> i still need to do some other stuff that i need to fucking blah
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07:25:51midknight2k3ANNOYANCE
07:25:52zewell i guess i can sorta hmm there's an idea
07:25:59zeindeed colors are an annoyance on irc
07:26:00midknight2k322:25:25 | <ze> i still need to do some other stuff that i need to fucking blah
07:26:08midknight2k3makes no sense
07:26:16midknight2k3your name is blue == on my bluelist
07:26:17zeit makes sense to type but not to read
07:26:24midknight2k3lol
07:28:37zei forgot to put this on my xmas list: http://www.adagio.com/herbal/peppermint.html
07:28:40ze:/
07:28:47zei e-mailed it just now to my mom heh
07:28:48midknight2k3?\
07:28:51midknight2k3lol
07:28:57midknight2k3OH NICER
07:29:01midknight2k3PEPPERMINT TEA
07:29:07midknight2k3MOM CAN I HAVE PEPPERMINT TEA
07:29:17zeeh?
07:29:21midknight2k3no idea.
07:29:24zeheh
07:29:38zei used to have 2 jars of peppermint but the better of the 2 got used up
07:29:45zeand the other one's not very good
07:30:02zethe stuff from this place is probably better than the better of the 2 i had
07:30:24midknight2k3peppermint tea for christmas?
07:30:35zei did remember to put live plants or seeds/pots/etc of peppermint on there
07:30:43zebut it'll take me a while to grow enough for tea :p
07:30:51midknight2k3booooo
07:30:52midknight2k3get tea
07:30:54midknight2k3so anyways
07:30:57midknight2k3still rendering?
07:31:03zeyep
07:31:10ze 34:29:22 Rendering line 298 of 480 supersampled 84 times.
07:31:11midknight2k3THAT STUPID THING IS STILL RENDERING?
07:31:16zeit's actually been on that line for a couple days now
07:31:18midknight2k3my god
07:31:19zeoh this is something different
07:31:32zethat other thing only took 16 hours to render
07:31:35midknight2k3its been RENDERING a couple days now
07:31:44midknight2k316 hours my .. face
07:31:59zeyou probably only looked briefly at the 1024x768 version
07:32:03zewhich really sucks
07:32:10midknight2k3lol
07:32:13zeyou have to look at the detail of the 1600x1200 version to appreciate it
07:32:20zeit really does have depth
07:32:54zereal true 3D depth, like a photograph of a cloud of light in empty space
07:33:08zethats basically exactly what it is
07:33:36midknight2k3whatever
07:33:37midknight2k3anyways
07:33:44midknight2k3onto other subjects
07:33:48midknight2k3how's the zen
07:34:28zeit says it's doing well, and says hi
07:34:37midknight2k3}{][)(
07:34:47midknight2k3i say, you suck large ones mr zen
07:34:55zehaha
07:35:04zei'm not gonna repeat what it said
07:35:07zeit wasn't very nice
07:35:24midknight2k3please do
07:35:32zenope
07:35:37midknight2k3PLEASE
07:35:38zeit wouldn't have the impact anyway
07:35:39midknight2k3I WISH TO HEAR IT
07:35:43midknight2k3I COMMAND YOU
07:35:44zeyou know it's got that EAX processing
07:36:00midknight2k3so what did it say
07:36:01zeso it can like put it in a cathedral and really make itself thunder
07:36:07zeand such
07:36:19zereally i'm not gonna tell you
07:36:26midknight2k3why not
07:36:37midknight2k3you tell me or i will.... I WILL BE ANGERY
07:37:41zepleased to meat you Mr. ANGERY
07:37:50midknight2k3THATS UNFARY
07:37:54midknight2k3UNFAIR*
07:38:00zewhoever said life was fary
07:38:20zeheh that just says it all doesn't it?
07:38:23midknight2k3I ! YOU! ASDF
07:38:45zesee you need to be zen
07:38:49zeand i don't mean the mp3 player
07:38:58zei mean the state of being
07:39:02midknight2k3DFAD
07:39:03midknight2k3SDD
07:41:12midknight2k3hello
07:41:22zehi
07:41:29midknight2k3i remember i used to say "helo" many times and got Stevie-O kicked multiple times
07:42:55midknight2k3ze?
07:43:22zewhat?
07:43:33midknight2k3DFAD
07:43:37midknight2k3D D D DFAD
07:48:03midknight2k3hello
07:48:04midknight2k3ze?
07:48:52zehi
07:49:34midknight2k3hi
07:53:52zei'm importing my old blog into movable type
07:53:58midknight2k3lol
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08:02:56midknight2k3ze ze zeeeee
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08:22:59s2s|Thunder|hey
08:23:05midknight2k3hey
08:23:11s2s|Thunder|whats up
08:23:35s2s|Thunder|any significant changes to the player rockbox yet?
08:23:51midknight2k3since when?
08:23:53midknight2k3v2?
08:23:59s2s|Thunder|since 5 days ago lol
08:24:05midknight2k3oh.. not really lol
08:24:11midknight2k3at the bottom of the page it tells whats new
08:24:14midknight2k3the main page
08:24:19midknight2k3tells whats been going on recently
08:24:22midknight2k3have a look
08:24:25midknight2k3a few minor updates
08:24:30midknight2k3dont know which applies to you
08:24:55s2s|Thunder|ok do you kno when 2.1 will be released?
08:25:31midknight2k3pretty soon
08:25:33midknight2k3very soon
08:25:36midknight2k3this week should be
08:25:37midknight2k3hmm
08:25:43midknight2k3a bit of a holdup i guess
08:25:44s2s|Thunder|yay
08:25:48s2s|Thunder|finally
08:25:58s2s|Thunder|will there be any changes for the player?
08:26:03s2s|Thunder|like nice changes
08:26:37midknight2k3do you have a daily build
08:26:46s2s|Thunder|not todays why?
08:26:54midknight2k3but a rather recent one?
08:27:05s2s|Thunder|umm well like 5 days old
08:28:31midknight2k3well
08:28:44midknight2k32.1 will be the most recent daily build with a different version label, so
08:28:45midknight2k3lol
08:28:46midknight2k3...
08:28:51midknight2k3you arent missing anything
08:28:51s2s|Thunder|cool
08:29:03midknight2k3daily builds are like in between versions
08:29:03s2s|Thunder|so nothing new or cool really
08:29:12midknight2k3in this case were at like 2.0.999
08:29:15midknight2k3not really
08:29:27midknight2k3check the bottom of http://rockbox.haxx.se ... see if anything there applies
08:30:37s2s|Thunder|o haha ok cool
08:30:43midknight2k3all right
08:30:45midknight2k3got to go all
08:30:47midknight2k3bye
08:30:59s2s|Thunder|wait
08:31:02midknight2k3yes?
08:31:02s2s|Thunder|one sec
08:31:14s2s|Thunder|they still didnt fix the damn battery thing hu?
08:31:20midknight2k3battery thing?
08:31:20s2s|Thunder|huh?*
08:31:27s2s|Thunder|like the battery meter
08:31:33midknight2k3whats wrong with it?
08:31:45s2s|Thunder|it doesnt show up
08:31:55s2s|Thunder|waoh nvm
08:31:57midknight2k3wait about a half a minute
08:31:58midknight2k3it will show
08:32:02s2s|Thunder|it works all the sudden haha lol
08:32:04midknight2k3it waits to get a reading before showing
08:32:06s2s|Thunder|ok thanks
08:32:07midknight2k3yes
08:32:11s2s|Thunder|bye
08:32:12midknight2k3it reads before showing
08:32:15midknight2k3or its inaccurate
08:32:16midknight2k3ok cya
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17:18:48JoeTdoes anyone in here know a Tom?
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17:23:45[IDC]Dragondo you mean Tom Diffenbach?
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17:41:36uski[IDC]Dragon: hi
17:41:47[IDC]Dragonhi
17:42:33uskiwazaa ?
17:43:01[IDC]Dragonno progress with your player, if that's what you were about to ask.
17:43:19[IDC]DragonI didn't do much with it
17:43:31[IDC]Dragonjust read the Flash
17:43:40[IDC]Dragonlooks OK
17:44:05[IDC]Dragonbut it's a version I don't have in my collection yet (4.09)
17:45:01uskiok
17:45:12uskiand more generally ? what's up ? ;)
17:45:23[IDC]Dragoncurrently I'm doing flashing for V2
17:45:35[IDC]Dragon(the real V2)
17:45:57uskik
17:47:14JoeTIDCDragn pls reply to my PM
17:51:39webmindoi
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18:44:23[IDC]Dragonwhat's this investingation about?
18:45:27JoeTI need to speak to MT
18:45:39JoeThe's been idle for some time
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19:54:15uski[IDC]Dragon: what do you mean here: "but has (mostly ;) no radio" ?
19:54:35[IDC]Dragonsome have the tuner
19:54:46uskilol ok
19:54:51uskithey are downgraded FMs ?
19:55:01[IDC]Dragonseems so, yes.
19:55:04uskik
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20:08:11midknight2k3hey all
20:08:43ArnaudBACK IN BLACK
20:09:00midknight2k3either that or not
20:13:04midknight2k3:o
20:13:10midknight2k3:-o
20:17:58ArnaudI knew there was no help from you
20:18:06Arnaudthunder of guns, tore me apart
20:18:13midknight2k3indeed
20:32:26midknight2k3hello
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21:13:38midknight2k3boo hoo
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21:24:12midknight2k3hi jet
21:30:45midknight2k3hi jet!
21:31:19webmindoi
21:31:42midknight2k3oi, boi
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22:21:10top_blokehey mid u there?
22:21:24midknight2k3yeah.. oh no
22:21:26midknight2k3i am not here
22:21:31midknight2k3not here!
22:21:34midknight2k3nobody home!
22:21:35midknight2k3ah crap
22:21:36top_blokeok my bad
22:21:41top_blokethought u were here
22:21:49top_blokeoff i go then.
22:21:53midknight2k3k
22:21:55midknight2k3phew
22:21:59midknight2k3close one
22:22:06top_blokeyes it was
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22:38:00midknight2k3hi scot
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22:46:18midknight2k3oh IDC was here?
22:46:23midknight2k3ah no
22:46:28midknight2k3i wanted to ask him a few qs
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22:56:17tracktheripperhi
22:56:23midknight2k3hey track
22:56:25midknight2k3back in 5 mins
22:56:27tracktheripperhi mid :)
22:56:30tracktheripperok
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22:59:54Kontakt501hey all
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23:03:57midknight2k3hey track
23:04:01midknight2k3hey kontakt
23:04:12tracktheripperhy
23:04:12tracktheripperhey
23:05:53Kontakt501hey mid
23:06:00Kontakt501my archos broke a few days ago lol
23:06:04Kontakt501exchanged it for a new 1
23:06:05midknight2k3i remember you
23:06:09midknight2k3oh WHAT?
23:06:10midknight2k3oh good
23:06:11Kontakt501the display stopped working
23:06:31Kontakt501hey track
23:07:01tracktheripperhi kon
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23:07:40Kontakt501any coool new features in the latest daily builds?
23:08:03midknight2k3kontakt: look at the bottom of the main site
23:08:07midknight2k3lists all the new junk
23:09:48tracktheripper yea
23:09:50tracktheripperlots of new things
23:09:58midknight2k3such as?
23:10:00midknight2k3track?
23:10:12tracktheripperall flash related issues (i think)
23:10:17Kontakt501the changelogs?
23:10:27Kontakt501whats flash module
23:10:37midknight2k3Kontakt501: the bottom of the main page is the whole changelog
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23:12:05Kontakt501ahh ok i see it
23:12:06Kontakt501kewl
23:12:16Kontakt501tons of uselesss shit lol
23:12:24midknight2k3track: flash. flash. flash.
23:12:28midknight2k3Kontakt501: FLASH
23:12:34midknight2k3mecraw_: FLASH
23:12:39Kontakt501flash what
23:13:02Kontakt5012003-11-29 12:36 zagor CVSROOT/loginfo
23:13:02Kontakt501CVSROOT/modules
23:13:02Kontakt501 Added flash module
23:13:07Kontakt501whats a flash module
23:13:10midknight2k3flash flash
23:13:23midknight2k3has to do with flashing
23:13:31Kontakt501ya but what does it do
23:13:41midknight2k3flashing?
23:13:48Kontakt501y
23:13:51midknight2k3it makes boot time go down to about 3-4 seconds
23:13:57midknight2k3its better
23:14:02midknight2k3Flash Today. TM
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23:20:31midknight2k3"ACID"
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23:23:23tracktheripperlol u nearly got booted
23:23:49midknight2k3nearly
23:23:55tracktheripperheehee
23:24:02tracktheripper:D
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23:26:57tracktheripper1logbot is a wanker
23:26:58tracktheripper1hi mid
23:27:02midknight2k3lol
23:27:13midknight2k3just do /join #rockbox
23:27:15midknight2k3he didnt ban you
23:27:18tracktheripper1oh ok
23:27:19midknight2k3he just kicked you
23:27:22tracktheripper1ill remember that for next time
23:27:23tracktheripper1lol
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