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#rockbox log for 2003-12-15

00:00:04elinenbeLinusN: it is a nice piece of programming.
00:00:09scott666whats the small one of? i havnt gotten that yet
00:00:14LinusNi tried a beta version before release
00:00:14midknight2k3then youd see why i want the converter (no rush of course)
00:00:24midknight2k3scott: it has 2 other small things
00:00:29midknight2k3a tree clip and a "lena
00:00:30midknight2k3picture
00:00:39elinenbe[IDC]Dragon: congrats on the great work. I guessed that was what you were working on. It looks GREAT!
00:01:02[IDC]Dragonelinenbe: thanks!
00:01:05midknight2k3yes it does !!
00:01:45scott666does the doom video eat as much battery as the red led would indicate?
00:01:54midknight2k3not quite\
00:01:56midknight2k3but close
00:02:01midknight2k3red light is always on
00:02:07midknight2k3even minus HD activity
00:02:12scott666ahh
00:02:15[IDC]Dragonso is the disk, yes
00:02:45midknight2k3on, but not accessed, right?
00:03:01[IDC]Dragonit is accessed 70 times a second
00:03:04scott666[
00:03:06midknight2k3wow
00:03:10midknight2k3never mind :)
00:03:14 Quit destroy_world ("i scream down this hotline just to feel something")
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00:04:44[IDC]Dragonthe video bitrate is 502 kBit/sec
00:05:10midknight2k3nice
00:05:15[IDC]Dragonusing the big mp3 buffer, it would be possible to power it down intermittantly
00:05:42midknight2k3yea every few seconds for a few seconds
00:05:45[IDC]Dragonbut is would have to spinup like 3 times more often than with mp3
00:05:46midknight2k3probably best to leave it on
00:06:32scott666would it even get a chance to spin down? itd have to be accessed every 3-4 seconds
00:06:36diddystar5[IDC]Dragon: could you please realease the source for your vodeo stuff
00:07:01[IDC]DragonI will, shure
00:07:11midknight2k3LinusN: thanks for the update!
00:07:19midknight2k3I'll try to do some of the extra stuff
00:07:32[IDC]Dragonfirst I'd like to discuss with Zagor about the plugin API extensions
00:08:26[IDC]Dragonthe high-speed LCD part is already in cvs
00:09:37diddystar5i mean would you go ahead and realease it on your server :)
00:10:40[IDC]Dragonwhat would you do with it? I have to merge my Rockbox changes first.
00:12:03diddystar5uhh well, could you put a patch for those on your webserver?
00:13:22[IDC]Dragonuncomfortable, the reast has changed with this neo stuff, my sources are before
00:13:38[IDC]Dragonreast=rest
00:13:51[IDC]Dragonand I don't like patches
00:14:15[IDC]DragonIf you let me work, I post the converter tonight
00:14:45midknight2k3YAY
00:14:46diddystar5ok :)
00:14:47midknight2k3idc rocks
00:14:49diddystar5cool
00:14:55midknight2k3idc is the best
00:15:04midknight2k3idc is amazing
00:15:09[IDC]Dragonno, Linus is ;)
00:15:25[IDC]Dragonand stop that buttkissing
00:15:32diddystar5lol
00:15:36midknight2k3you've spoiled me
00:15:48midknight2k3i watched doom3 demo about 10 times in a row
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00:17:19diddystar5i think it is very possible to put doom on archos, my ti 83+ has doom on it :)
00:17:31midknight2k3ok Linus, we want a circular clock, second hand, anything else?
00:18:22Sebulba02heh
00:18:51LinusNmidknight2k3: not that i can think of, no (except for shorter hour hand)
00:19:03midknight2k3shorter?
00:19:09midknight2k3OH did you try it
00:19:12diddystar5and it ought to look very good with idc's new lcd stuff!
00:19:21midknight2k3its the same length as min hand right
00:19:28midknight2k3thats the bug!
00:19:29LinusNthan the minute and second hand
00:19:37midknight2k3after like 6PM it becomes as long as the minute hand
00:19:42midknight2k3even at the bouncer code
00:19:55LinusNand the hour hand should be thicker than the minute hand
00:22:19midknight2k3butbutbut
00:22:21midknight2k3its a bug
00:22:22midknight2k3any ideas
00:22:25midknight2k3it elongates
00:23:49diddystar5it erects
00:23:51diddystar5lol
00:24:02midknight2k3uh
00:24:04midknight2k3no.
00:24:07midknight2k3actually
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00:24:19yeftbonjour!
00:24:39diddystar5lol "nospinzone"
00:24:41midknight2k3BOJURR
00:24:51yeftlol?
00:24:56yeftwhy
00:25:05diddystar5do you watch fox news?
00:25:10yeftalways :)
00:25:20yeftbetter then the Communist News Network
00:25:30diddystar5yeah, you know, bill O, the no spin zone
00:25:39yeftthats why i put it there
00:25:45yeftif i ever get banned from a room...
00:25:45diddystar5cool
00:25:51yefti change my nick to nospinzone
00:25:52yeft:P
00:26:12diddystar5:)
00:27:07midknight2k3ASDF
00:27:07midknight2k3DFAD
00:27:08midknight2k3SDD
00:27:12midknight2k3sorry
00:28:16diddystar5go to #liberals see if you get banned :)
00:28:24 Nick yeft is now known as nospinzone (nospinzone@pcp04986012pcs.benslm01.pa.comcast.net)
00:28:29diddystar5lol
00:28:32nospinzone:)\
00:28:46nospinzonethats not a channel :(
00:28:57nospinzoneim just glad
00:29:05diddystar5ohh well
00:29:09nospinzoneliberals no longer have the "well, where is saddam??" argument
00:29:13nospinzoneMUAAHHAHA
00:29:18diddystar5HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
00:30:29nospinzonesilly liberals
00:30:36 Nick nospinzone is now known as yeft (nospinzone@pcp04986012pcs.benslm01.pa.comcast.net)
00:30:54midknight2k3sddddd
00:30:59yeftsfh
00:31:46diddystar5afdsafda
00:31:55diddystar5jkljkljl;;jkljk;
00:34:07xamwell, but where is waldo?
00:34:28midknight2k3hes SDDing
00:34:42xamand ossama?
00:36:01midknight2k3DFFing
00:36:10yeftwho cares about ossama
00:36:15yeftwe got saddam!
00:36:37yeftwhich if you make all the ds ss and the o s and o
00:36:44yeftand rearange the letter
00:36:45yefts
00:36:48yeftyou have OSSAMA
00:36:52yefterrie isnt it
00:37:25xamnope
00:37:54midknight2k3lol
00:37:57midknight2k3yeah thats like saying
00:38:28midknight2k3if you take "computer" and change the letters to "microwave" you get "microwave"!
00:38:30midknight2k3eerie huh
00:38:38yefthahah mk i thought this kid was you
00:38:40scott666whoa!
00:38:43yeftbut it was mike housen
00:38:50yeftand i couldnt remember your last name...
00:39:03diddystar5lol
00:39:06yeftmuahah
00:39:06midknight2k3what now
00:39:12midknight2k3im at the end of the credits list
00:39:28yeftcause if you change the u to an l and the s to a d...
00:39:39diddystar5im next to the end of the credits list (in front of mid!)
00:39:42midknight2k3and computer to microwave
00:39:44midknight2k3ITS EERIE
00:39:50yeftand i cant program
00:39:51midknight2k3thats not fair diddy
00:40:00yeft...i was reading about shakespear programming
00:40:04yeftpretty sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet
00:40:12diddystar5it is cool
00:40:14midknight2k3im not mikeholden
00:40:15midknight2k3lol
00:40:17yefti gotta run now...be back later
00:40:19midknight2k3bye
00:40:20yeftwait who is
00:40:23midknight2k3not I
00:40:25diddystar5but you should learn something else first
00:40:25midknight2k3im "
00:40:28midknight2k3im zakk
00:40:28diddystar5bye
00:40:29midknight2k3dfad
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00:41:35midknight2k3d
00:58:46diddystar5bye everyone
00:58:53diddystar5c you tomorrow
00:58:58midknight2k3bye
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01:00
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01:31:48[IDC]DragonOK, I've uploaded sources and converter tool, see my latest posting.
01:32:15[IDC]DragonHope it works, I've only briefly tested it.
01:32:20[IDC]DragonGoodnight!
01:32:24midknight2k3NIGHT
01:32:25midknight2k3thanks idc
01:32:28midknight2k3you rock :)
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01:41:19trackhi Linis
01:41:20trackLinus
01:41:25midknight2k3tracky
01:41:28midknight2k3you can watch your own movies
01:41:40bluechipdid i miss the release of the encoder?
01:41:45trackwhat?
01:41:59midknight2k3yes bluechip
01:42:04midknight2k3http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-12/0530.shtml
01:42:29bluechiplol ....you bugger off to re-fdisk your machine ..and the world changes while you're away :)
01:42:32bluechipcheers mk
01:42:46midknight2k3lol
01:42:52bluechiphey mk, can you build a sim with your devkit?
01:42:59midknight2k3yes
01:43:05midknight2k3i got a full cygwin
01:43:09midknight2k3thats what you need
01:43:11bluechipahha
01:43:46bluechipshame about the full install ...if only rolands dev kit worked with 98 :(
01:43:53midknight2k3yeah
01:43:58bluechipmk, what instructions did you follow?
01:44:03midknight2k3there are just a few packs you need
01:44:07midknight2k3but i dont remember
01:44:10midknight2k3i just got the full pack
01:44:14bluechipdarn it!
01:44:15midknight2k3you need perl for one
01:44:20midknight2k3im sure of that
01:44:23midknight2k3theres about 4 others
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01:52:39***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
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01:55:47midknight2k3IT WORKS!
01:55:48midknight2k3ITS COO
01:56:05bluechipcoo huh?
01:56:09bluechiplol
01:57:32midknight2k3awesome
01:57:34midknight2k3ill upload it
01:57:37midknight2k3its a rockbox intro video
01:57:44bluechipdo it
01:57:45midknight2k3back in 10
02:00
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02:06:26diddystar5hey linus
02:06:32LinusNyo
02:06:55diddystar5LinusN: could you help with the vu meter? i have code that calculates log(base 2) now!
02:07:14LinusNthen why do you need my help? :-)
02:07:29diddystar5because i dont know what to do with it
02:08:15LinusNbut i thought we solved that the last time?
02:08:30diddystar5ohh
02:08:32diddystar5yeah
02:08:35diddystar5ill try
02:08:41diddystar5for got about that
02:11:13trackOMG IT WORKS!
02:11:16trackthe video mode!
02:11:50trackhey LinusN the Archos can play video after all!
02:12:24*bluechip mutters something that rhymes with wav
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02:16:49midknight2k3BACK
02:16:49midknight2k3IT WORKS
02:17:06midknight2k3LINUSN!
02:17:07midknight2k3IT WORKS!
02:17:20midknight2k3i have a rather neat demo you might want to include in the pack if you are to release it
02:22:24LinusNwhat works?
02:22:36diddystar5his video
02:22:56midknight2k3it works well
02:22:59midknight2k3i think youd like it
02:23:46xamnow we just need AA-support for fonts ;)
02:24:06bluechipoohh, subtitle?
02:24:12bluechiplol
02:24:23xambluechip karaoke?
02:24:51midknight2k3lol
02:25:08xamand implement a background picture/video and transparency
02:25:32midknight2k3lol yeah
02:25:34midknight2k3this will ROCK
02:25:34xammaybe a even little qt-embedded port ;)
02:25:56midknight2k3testing another
02:25:59xamwell, it would require c++ ... and that's evil
02:26:09bluechipwhat would require ++?
02:26:16xamqt?
02:26:19midknight2k3er a very pixelated mess
02:26:29bluechiponly if you are to use existing code
02:26:42bluechip...and even that could be modified
02:26:43xambluechip: yeah
02:27:00xambluechip: I don't think you have programmed in QT before ...
02:27:10xams/in/with/
02:28:09bluechip"in" QT??
02:28:16midknight2k3 <xam> s/in/with/
02:28:33bluechipLOL - i will learn regex one day
02:28:42xamhehe
02:28:56bluechipNOTHING that can be done in C++ cannot be reproduced in C
02:29:11bluechipunless you consider methodology to be a confining factor
02:29:50xambluechip: yes, but ... it would be *much* more hassle to implement workarounds for qt than to do implement a replacement
02:30:27xambluechip: QT makes quite an extensive of use of C++ features ... unfortunately
02:30:47xambluechip: nothing you can 'easily' work around with C
02:31:06bluechip:(
02:31:17bluechipyes, "easy" has to be a key word I appreciate
02:31:23xamwhat about a GTK-port then?
02:31:36xam;) just kidding
02:32:19xambut I'd love the idea to have something like a album icon/picture feature
02:32:49bluechipgonna burn the crap out of the batteries to keep it permanently displayed though
02:32:59midknight2k3SDD DFF!
02:33:02xamI suppose you could even write a picture preview plugin ...
02:33:27xambluechip: nope, not at all if you don't use the 'greyscale' hack
02:33:44bluechipsorry, yes, i WAS referring to the greyscaling
02:34:28xambluechip: I'd say even if you display the icon with greyscale, it would only be shown if you select a new song
02:35:07xambluechip: I don't thing the greyscaling takes lots of power ... it's just pixel flipping after all
02:36:20xamthe doom demo sucks batteries out because it constantly reads from harddisk
02:36:45bluechipthe processor is constantly updating the screen
02:37:43xamit's just a bitmap transfer ... that shouldn't need much processing power and therefore battery power
02:38:32bluechipthe screen generates so much heat that it slows down apparently
02:38:41midknight2k3psh
02:38:43midknight2k3yea right
02:39:04xam'screen generates heat' ?
02:39:10midknight2k3yea RIGHT
02:40:01xamoh, that's why my casio watch has a fan built-in ...
02:40:14bluechip<shrugs>
02:40:54midknight2k3LOL
02:41:54LinusNmidknight2k3: that's why your lcd flickers more after viewing the doom3 movie a few times
02:42:06midknight2k3its bad for the lcd?
02:42:08bluechipindeed
02:42:18midknight2k3is it bad*
02:42:28bluechipmk: it's all "wear and tear"
02:42:43midknight2k3is it more wear and tear than normal usage?
02:42:52bluechipyes
02:43:01midknight2k3OH NO
02:43:03midknight2k3how much
02:43:08bluechipplus you will likely have the LEDs on whilst watching
02:43:09midknight2k3is it like, gonna break
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02:43:13bluechipno
02:43:15xamactually if you increase the temperature, you increase the speed of a processor (very slightly), but you also increase the electric leaks and also other errors might occur, lit random bit flips etc
02:43:43bluechipheat is, for the sake of this discussion, current from your batteries
02:44:02xamheat is high temperature
02:44:18bluechipare you sure?
02:44:27xambluechip: yes
02:44:50bluechipis it relative or absolute?
02:44:58xamyou can test it: turn the gas oven on, and but your hand in the flames
02:45:05midknight2k3no thanks.
02:45:09xambut=put
02:45:33bluechipi put my hand on the back of my archos earlier - i thought it was giving off a LOT of heat
02:45:49xamnow get a 12v battery and short-cut it with your fingers ... which one hurts more?
02:46:03xamwhich one is 'hotter' ? :)
02:46:07bluechip1)
02:46:15midknight2k3"flames?", midknight2k3 guesses
02:46:33bluechipunless you are wearing rings, and it is a car battery, then (2)
02:46:58xambluechip: it's 1. the hard disk ... 2. batteries and 3. *maybe* the dsps/cpu, albeit I guess the embedded chips don't produce much heat
02:47:25bluechipxam: you are, of course, 100% right :)
02:49:21bluechipbloody hell, a successful build :) ...now for the sim
02:49:44midknight2k3lol
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02:50:12xamthe bit-flips one the display is something you also see on some LCD-projectors ... however it's not the display itself, but rather the image processing chips that get too hot
02:50:24xamone=on ... I should go to bed soon
02:50:35bluechipnight dude
02:50:42midknight2k3night
02:50:44xamsoon != now
02:50:49xam;)
02:50:51midknight2k3lol
02:50:52midknight2k3ok
02:55:53xamwould be nice if the MAS docu 'problem' could be resolved soon and we could get at least WAV support
02:56:54bluechipThere are bigger issues than that which are stopping us
02:57:22bluechipmind you, I say that and I'm not sure what you think the problem is...
02:57:26bluechipI should ask...
02:57:49bluechipwhat do you suspect to be the problem?
03:00
03:00:24xam1. legal issues have to be resolved
03:00:26xam2. tools must be available to code for the MAS chip, or at least docu that provides enough info to built tools
03:00:27xam3. DSP programming is not the easies thing to do
03:01:34diddystar5bye everyone
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03:02:03bluechipwell forget 3, everything is easy when you know how it's done
03:02:03bluechip2 is pretty much already resolved
03:02:03bluechipand yes, 1 is what is killing the project ...although we have written permission, there are some internal politics to overcome
03:03:18midknight2k3anyone else have problems with longish avis?
03:03:24xam3. IS an issue if you want to implement complex algorithms like OGG, FLAC, WMA ... I suppose you have never (re-)programmed algorithms for DSPs either ;)
03:04:13bluechipsuppose all you like - you clearly are not very active on the dsp hacking scene, or else you would know what I have been up to the past few years
03:04:37xambluechip: we have tools to delevop/reprogramme the MAS chip aswell? can they be used with the existing built-tools?
03:04:42bluechipas for support for all the weird codecs - I have no interest in these - I am looking for speech synth
03:05:09bluechip...and it dont come no more simple than you
03:05:10bluechip...nah, sorry, no simpler than PCM
03:05:14bluechiplol
03:05:19xambluechip: you were collecting lots of docus for the MAS chip
03:06:07midknight2k3this is great
03:06:12midknight2k3i set up a template for rockbox videos
03:06:19midknight2k3i can export anything with a few clicks
03:06:29midknight2k3saved size, quality, etc
03:07:04bluechipso, xam, what is your DSP background?
03:07:17xambluechip: I have programmed DSP chips in the past ... and it was nothing I'd like to do for living ... guess why it was so difficult to get infos in the first place? the company that produces the chips obviously also sells various codecs that they implement themselves in order to make money
03:07:33midknight2k3lol
03:07:39midknight2k3IGNORE ME, SURE
03:07:55bluechipmk: butt in whenever you like ;)
03:08:02midknight2k3:-)
03:08:45bluechipxam: unfortunately the information you have is inaccurate, but as it will only start and argument, I will allow you to believe whatever you like.
03:09:02*midknight2k3 sees flame war coming and ducks
03:09:18xambluechip: I created DSP with VHDL back when I was a CS graduate in my university ... and implemented FFT codecs on these and commecial DSPs ...
03:09:45bluechipcool - you coded your own original FFT - <hats off>
03:10:13midknight2k3uh
03:10:18midknight2k3hats off
03:10:32xambluechip: I did NOT have a click'n'build software that translates BASIC-style code into DSP code ... I just used VHDL to build the DSP itself ...
03:11:14bluechipyeah, i've only ever worked on the inside of DSP's in the past - the high-level/coding aspect I used to leave to the programmers
03:11:40xambluechip: I guess with good commecial tools for a special DSP it way easier to create codecs for a DSP, but I never used such tools
03:12:01bluechipanyway, you are obvisouly VERY clever.. Why don't you chip in (excuse the pun) and do some work on the MAS DSP
03:12:22midknight2k3calm down ppl
03:12:32xambluechip: I'm currently busy doing a PhD in CS
03:12:40xambluechip: not much time :-/
03:12:50bluechipwow :)
03:13:07midknight2k3man
03:13:11midknight2k3ima port all my tv smashing vids
03:13:17midknight2k3thank you, jorg!
03:13:20xambluechip: albeit a totally different area ... case-based reasoning
03:13:33bluechipxam: so, super-dude, you gonna help?
03:13:50xambluechip: not this year I'm afraid ;)
03:14:08bluechipxam: though you might say that - i'm psychic
03:14:30midknight2k3lol
03:14:32midknight2k3;p
03:14:52midknight2k3:iUZ
03:14:59LinusNtime for me to get a few minutes of sleep
03:15:08midknight2k3night!
03:15:15midknight2k3thx for code update
03:15:16bluechipnite dude - tell me if that pdf reference helps
03:15:21LinusNcu some other day
03:15:25midknight2k3:)
03:15:29LinusNbluechip: yeah, i'll work on it
03:15:47bluechipso, mk, you gonna upload your conversion process?
03:15:53midknight2k3no
03:15:56 Part LinusN
03:16:01midknight2k3o what
03:16:15midknight2k3what now
03:16:35bluechipit's okay, if you'd prefer not to share, that's okay too
03:17:12midknight2k3no what?
03:17:17midknight2k3misunderstood
03:17:29xambluechip: I don't have a 'homepage', just a few info's on a website: xam">http://www.cs.ucc.ie/~xam , but I think the university webserver is down ... at least I can't reach it
03:18:13bluechipyeah, dead dude
03:18:33bluechipucc.ie? where's that?
03:18:45midknight2k3bluechip: you mean my rockbox video?
03:19:04xammhh, www.ucc.ie is also down ... wonder what they are up to
03:19:30Sebulba02upgrades possibly?
03:19:36xamarggl, can't even access the mail servers ... I think they have a problem at my university
03:22:21xamyeah, likely ... I just look at the uptime statistics and they have been down on saturday for a couple of hours, and again now (since about 2 hours ago)
03:22:43bluechipstart up a yahoo group :D
03:23:37xamSebulba02: but why the whole campus network? not only the webservers, but everything ... I even can't access my office pcs
03:25:23Sebulba02eh, maybe someone pulled the wrong plug?
03:25:28xambluechip: sorry, ucc.ie is "National University of Ireland, Cork" also former known as "University College Cork", hence ucc.ie
03:26:02bluechipcool -so is it you guys who host the phone-spy computers?
03:26:07xamSebulba02: yeah, the woman with the vacuum cleaner needed a socket ...
03:26:18Sebulba02heh
03:26:45xamphone-spy? I don't think so ... at least nobody told us ;-P
03:27:09bluechiptime to go stamping on all the man holes on campus - lol
03:27:33bluechipwih i could recall their real name
03:28:37bluechipi did my degrees at essex
03:28:47xamI'm using a IPv6 tunnel broker ... everytime the network is down I loose 'credits' and if you loose credits too often, they'll permanently disconnect you and I'll have to find another tunnel broker :-/
03:29:26bluechipthey're on to you <arrrrrgghhhh>
03:30:24xambluechip: I had this feeling all the time ... now I have proof!
03:30:50bluechipJANET wants your soul
03:31:16xamessex? Ahh, I remember you mentioning that you are 'a typical brit' (somewhere on the mailing list)
03:31:25xambluechip: HEANET here
03:31:48bluechipi must stress that I fight the accent as much as I can
03:31:57xamhehe
03:32:04bluechipgeezah
03:32:07bluechiplol
03:33:21xamwell, it can't be as bad as the cork accent ...
03:34:10bluechipdat'll be aboot rait
03:34:30xambluechip: http://www.peoplesrepublicofcork.com/index.php?module=Dictionary&func=lettersearch&letterget=All&vid=1
03:34:36bluechip(its sounds as bad as it reads)
03:35:08xambluechip: we have (made-up) our own words here in cork
03:35:13bluechiplol
03:35:17bluechipthis is funny :)
03:35:23bluechipI have a number of irish friends
03:35:34bluechip(close friend at liverpool uni)
03:36:06bluechipbendeco - LOL
03:36:23bluechipI heard a puppet dog shout that in a muppet movie
03:36:46bluechipWTF!!???
03:36:54xamlol
03:37:11bluechipyou are aware of it's origin i presume?
03:37:52xamnope, I wasn't born in cork ... I'm just living here for the last 3 years
03:38:08bluechipit's a spanish word
03:38:22bluechipwhich you might NOT want to use
03:38:51midknight2k3what
03:38:52midknight2k3what
03:39:00midknight2k3bendeco?
03:39:03xammost of the people at the university don't speak this way, but ... many of the working class people do ... you can here it quite often actually ... the dictionary is NOT made up, they really use these words and phrases
03:39:26bluechipi believe you
03:39:46bluechipmk: take an educated guess, you are unlikely to be wrong unless you try
03:41:23xambluechip: Ahh, that explains alot. about 250 years ago (or so) the spain armarda stranded at kinsale ... there is a lot of spanish influence there and in the galway region ... even the girls look a little bit spanish like (guess what: the stranded spanish guys didn't have much to do in their freetime back then;)
03:42:05xambluechip: the girl in kinsale/galway have a darker skin than the typical irish pale one
03:42:34bluechipxam: cool, i never know that! :)
03:43:41bluechipcan i change my dos path under bash anyone?
03:43:49xambluechip: everybody is called 'boy' or 'feen' in cork, regardless the age ... was a little bit strange for me when I first came here ... the funny thing is the these made up works don't have the origin in the irish-gaelic language
03:44:19xambluechip: dos path? what do you mean?
03:44:40bluechipnp - too long to explain
03:45:43Sebulba02using cygwin?
03:45:48bluechipyes
03:45:59bluechiptrying to get a sim compile
03:46:15Sebulba02Ah.
03:46:16midknight2k3wai wha
03:46:19midknight2k3i know about it
03:46:47xamalso using cygwin here
03:47:19xamcd /cygdrive/c
03:47:26midknight2k3oh boy
03:47:27midknight2k3nm
03:47:29midknight2k3sheez
03:49:46xambluechip: if you want to change the location of cygwin under windows altogether it's a little bit of a hassle
03:49:58midknight2k3<bluechip> trying to get a sim compile
03:50:10midknight2k3sounds like he's trying to get a sim compile
03:50:15bluechipnah, i've spent all night repartitionoing my machine to circumvent this problem
03:51:49bluechiproland's dev kit does this just fine, but you can't get an sh-1 compile out of 98
03:52:05midknight2k3what
03:52:07midknight2k3it doesnt work
03:52:11bluechipnot on 98
03:52:25midknight2k3?
03:52:31midknight2k3it doesnt not work on 98?
03:52:42***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
03:52:43bluechipwhich bit is causing the problem?
03:53:38midknight2k3nothing nm
03:54:29bluechipi posted the error to the newsgroup - srch for ummmmmm... "sigchild"
03:54:42midknight2k3no thx
03:56:41bluechip"reaping winning child" ...they should manufacture a cyborg version of this compiler - lol
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03:57:32bluechipmake
03:57:37midknight2k3sdddd
03:57:40midknight2k3zdfad
03:57:42midknight2k3asdf
03:57:43midknight2k3sdd
03:57:43midknight2k3dfad
03:57:45midknight2k3sfdA
03:57:46midknight2k3adsf
03:57:48midknight2k3adsfdsfasdfa
03:58:18Sebulba02you okay midknight2k3?
03:58:27bluechiphe needs attention
03:58:35midknight2k3NO! MIDKNIGHT2K3 STATUS = BUSTED BEYOND REPAIR
03:58:44midknight2k3TIMELINE: WILL DIE SOMETIME WITHIN MILLENIUM
03:58:52bluechipsdd? add?
03:59:05midknight2k3SDD, EARTHLING
03:59:13*bluechip sniggers
03:59:45midknight2k3ASDF, MA'AM
04:00
04:02:00bluechiphey, mk, could you do a "dir /s /b c:\cygwin >x.x" and send me the resut please?
04:02:57midknight2k3surep
04:03:47midknight2k3sure is taking a bit o time
04:03:52bluechiplol
04:04:00bluechipdid you install EVERYTHING?
04:04:04midknight2k3yes
04:04:09bluechipow!
04:04:26midknight2k3not that bad
04:04:28midknight2k3just a few gigs
04:04:38midknight2k3ITS ALREADY LIKE 2.5MB
04:04:41midknight2k3and counting
04:04:42midknight2k3the text file
04:04:57midknight2k32.8
04:05:00bluechiphmm, actually, maybe that was a bid idea - thankx anyway
04:05:01midknight2k33.5
04:05:06midknight2k33.9
04:05:07bluechipbid=bad
04:05:11midknight2k34.2
04:05:17midknight2k34.3
04:05:23midknight2k34.7MB
04:05:27midknight2k34.9
04:05:33midknight2k3halted
04:05:35midknight2k35.1MB
04:05:40bluechiphmmm, give it up dude - lol
04:05:47midknight2k3its done
04:05:56midknight2k3its gonna crash my system opening it
04:06:12bluechipget a real editor ;)
04:06:16midknight2k3cool
04:06:19midknight2k3it works
04:06:23midknight2k3thats a LOT of stuff
04:10:58midknight2k3sdd
04:21:02xamgood night
04:21:07midknight2k3night
04:21:07xamI'm gonna go to bed
04:21:10bluechipnite
04:21:11midknight2k3:)
04:21:25xamnice talking to you both, cya
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04:21:42midknight2k3chatzilla, wooo
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04:32:38bluechipmk, do you know which components I REQUIRE
04:32:46midknight2k3perl for one
04:33:07bluechipta
04:35:29bluechipweiiird - perl already seems to be a part of the dev kit
04:35:39bluechipi hate this sysadmin crap :(
04:35:51midknight2k3hm
04:45:56Sebulba02whoa, cool, an open source OS for my TI-89
04:46:13midknight2k3wha?
04:46:14midknight2k3where
04:46:48Sebulba02http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/319/31951.html
04:49:51midknight2k3cool
04:50:56Sebulba02I wonder what happened to my TI-89..
04:51:09midknight2k3lol
04:51:11midknight2k3you LOST it?
04:51:30Sebulba02Nah, I don't recall if I brought it home.
04:51:57Sebulba02I don't think I would lose a $150 calculator
04:52:03bluechipmk, where does your "windows.h" file live on your install?
04:52:24midknight2k3windows.h?
04:52:32bluechipwindows.h!
04:52:37midknight2k3uh
04:52:47Sebulba02 /usr/src :)
04:52:57Sebulba02err, include maybe?
04:53:06Sebulba02god, I need to goto sleep
04:53:08bluechipi hope so
04:53:12midknight2k3lol
04:53:14bluechipther is no usr/src
04:53:23midknight2k3i think there is for me
04:53:35bluechipmk can you tell me where "windows.h" lives?
04:53:41midknight2k3not sure
04:53:51bluechipdir c:\cyginw\windows.h /s /p
04:54:03Sebulba02find / -type f -name "windows.h"
04:54:50bluechiplol
04:54:56bluechiptake your pick :)
04:55:41midknight2k3find doesnt work
04:55:44midknight2k3ill try blues way
04:56:02bluechipfind is bash ...dir is dos
04:56:13midknight2k3ahh
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04:56:25Masskilleri wanna turn my damn mp3 player off while im charging
04:56:27Masskillersomeone fix that
04:56:27Masskillerlol
04:56:32Masskiller:\
04:56:47midknight2k3hardware issue
04:56:50bluechipyou mean blank display and little green light goes out?
04:56:52midknight2k3"issue"
04:57:00midknight2k3not possible
04:57:12midknight2k3 Directory of c:\cygwin\usr\include\w32api
04:57:12midknight2k309/12/2003 05:37 AM 2,875 windows.h
04:57:12midknight2k3 1 File(s) 2,875 bytes
04:57:25bluechipta
04:58:21bluechip:( it's already then
04:58:25*bluechip starts to weep
04:58:31midknight2k3dfad
04:58:32bluechip...like a baby
05:00
05:00:56bluechipyou okay inregedit?
05:01:05midknight2k3?
05:01:08midknight2k3yesw
05:01:09midknight2k3yes
05:01:52bluechipcould you do this please:
05:01:54bluechipregedit /e old.reg "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions"
05:02:16bluechip...and send me old.reg
05:02:38midknight2k3hmm
05:03:07midknight2k3dcc ok?
05:03:14bluechipta
05:03:15midknight2k3i guess thats a yes
05:03:18midknight2k3lol np
05:03:24bluechip;)
05:04:11bluechiplol - think i;ll just run that on mine and see if ti helps :)
05:05:42bluechiphmm maybe not
05:06:15midknight2k3lol
05:06:38bluechipdrive flags are different and im not hapy about that
05:06:43bluechipyou;re ntfs?
05:08:04midknight2k3yes
05:08:12midknight2k3no comments pls
05:08:12midknight2k3lol
05:08:16bluechipokay - i'll botch a new one form the old two
05:08:41Sebulba02for windows, whats wrong with ntfs?
05:08:50bluechipim fat32
05:10:10Sebulba02eek
05:10:23Sebulba02running win98?
05:10:24bluechipsuits my needs
05:10:35midknight2k3i dislike when people, just because they dont do things the exact same way, argue over the fact that their way is better
05:10:45midknight2k3"i dont use mozilla. IE rocks"
05:10:49bluechiphere here
05:11:01midknight2k3or "I use firebird 0.6 . 0.7 is bloated"
05:11:09Sebulba02heh
05:11:16Sebulba02haven't heard that one
05:11:24midknight2k3me either
05:11:25bluechipdepends on the attitude, if it is a constructive suggestion, that that's cool
05:11:27midknight2k3just example lol
05:11:32midknight2k3suggestion? sure
05:11:36midknight2k3not complaint
05:11:38bluechipexample...
05:11:39midknight2k3or brag
05:11:42Sebulba02I was just curious..
05:11:56midknight2k3lol i want aiming at you
05:11:58bluechipI suggest everyone who uses IE, gives Opera a try
05:12:00midknight2k3just at the world
05:12:03midknight2k3yes
05:12:05midknight2k3i loved opera
05:12:06midknight2k3a lot
05:12:11Sebulba02opera rules
05:12:26midknight2k3but mozilla is better.
05:12:29bluechiplol
05:12:29midknight2k3^^ good example
05:12:33midknight2k3example.
05:12:38Sebulba02though its a royal pain in the arse to write webpages for
05:12:39midknight2k3thats what i hate when people do that
05:12:52midknight2k3well
05:12:57midknight2k3not really like that
05:13:00midknight2k3ah FORGET IT
05:13:03midknight2k3you get my drift
05:13:04bluechipYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
05:13:09bluechipthanks mk :)
05:13:15midknight2k3"i use premiere 6.5! vegas 4 sucks"
05:13:27bluechipnot sure about the 4 warnings - but it looks liek a successful compile :)
05:13:33midknight2k3"i use xp pro. xp home is much less <stable, feature filled, etc>"
05:13:39midknight2k3cool
05:14:06Sebulba02<opinion> win xp is too bloated .
05:14:25midknight2k3they only say that
05:14:33bluechipI persoanlly like to stay as close to my hardware as possible, but that's because of my background
05:14:34midknight2k3if (a) you use xp, (b) they dont
05:14:53Sebulba02I won't touch it unless I have to..
05:15:31Sebulba022k is installed for what I actually use windows for, which is very little.
05:15:59bluechip98se does me just fine !
05:16:09bluechipweiirdness
05:16:33bluechipmk, can you do me a favour and build a winsim from the 2.1 release code?
05:16:41Masskillerhey
05:16:44midknight2k3er
05:16:44bluechipho
05:16:45Masskillerif i turn my mp3 player on
05:16:48Masskillerwhile its plugged in
05:16:56Masskilleri cant get it back to that "charging" screen
05:16:58midknight2k3thatd be hard
05:17:02Masskillerwhen i try to turn it off
05:17:05markwmidknight2k3: not to get into a browser war, but when is IE going to support simple things like tabbed browsing, and pop-up blocking? :)
05:17:06Masskillerit says "CHARGING"
05:17:13Masskillerand wont let me get out of file view
05:17:16midknight2k3im with you, mark
05:17:30midknight2k3just saying people wod say "ie rocks" because they USE it are stupid
05:17:31bluechipmass: turn it off :)
05:17:37Masskillertoo tough
05:17:38Masskillerlol
05:17:44markwmidknight2k3: gotcha.
05:17:51Sebulba02markw: it supports tabbing, sorta.. XP handles it for you :)
05:17:57midknight2k3linux user -> linux rocks
05:17:59markwmidknight2k3: they haven't ported IE to linux yet either.
05:18:00Masskillerlo
05:18:02midknight2k3windows user -> window srocks
05:18:05midknight2k3i dont care
05:18:08*midknight2k3 hates ire
05:18:09midknight2k3ie
05:18:14*Masskiller eats ie
05:18:30Masskilleri eat shit like IE for breakfast
05:18:34Masskillereven though i dont eat breakfast
05:18:47*Sebulba02 password protected IE from everything and forgot the passwd.
05:18:48bluechipyumm, shit on toast, with conrflakes - my favourite
05:18:52bluechiplol
05:18:58Masskillerthe other day
05:19:06Masskillermy windows login screen wouldnt accept my password
05:19:10Masskilleri put it in right
05:19:15bluechipmidk: so any chance of checking a bug for me please?
05:19:17Masskillerand i made sure of it like 10 times
05:19:17midknight2k3arg
05:19:20Masskillerbut it wouldnt take it
05:19:21midknight2k3a a a
05:19:23midknight2k3AAAH
05:19:24Masskillerso i restarted and then it worked
05:19:27midknight2k3OVERLOAD OF MESSAGES
05:19:27Sebulba02hope your admin pass works then
05:19:30Masskilleri thought my computer was dead
05:19:30Masskillerlol
05:19:37midknight2k3a bug
05:19:39midknight2k3?
05:19:47bluechipto go BACK to the charger screen OFF is the correct solution
05:20:00midknight2k3uh?
05:20:04Masskillerit says "Battery: Charging"
05:20:10Masskillerand wont let me get back to the charging screen
05:20:13Sebulba02mine did too
05:20:16bluechipyeah, was gonna test ur plugin at last, and the menu option is broken - LOL
05:20:23midknight2k3mine?
05:20:26Masskillerthat charging message pops up over my file browser
05:20:29midknight2k3whats where I CANT JUGGLE ALL THIS
05:20:32Masskiller:|
05:20:34bluechipyes midk (sorry)
05:20:57midknight2k3lol noones fault
05:20:58bluechipmass: u got a recorder?
05:21:04Masskilleryes
05:21:17bluechiplet me clone your eery move now...
05:21:21bluechiplol
05:21:23bluechipevery
05:21:24Masskillerok
05:21:26MasskillerPM
05:22:44Masskiller[11:21:40pm] <Masskiller> it wont let you
05:22:44Masskiller[11:21:41pm] <Masskiller> lol
05:22:44Masskiller[11:22:35pm] <bluechip> fuck! i can't even turn on
05:22:45DBUGEnqueued KICK Masskiller
05:22:45Masskillerlol
05:23:01Sebulba02ouch
05:23:20midknight2k3what
05:23:29Masskillerthat would be cool if my battery actually was -1% full
05:23:31midknight2k3lol
05:23:32Masskillerit would always be charging
05:23:32Masskillerlol
05:23:34midknight2k3no
05:23:36midknight2k3itd be DEAD
05:23:39Masskillerno
05:23:40Masskiller-1%
05:23:44Masskillerloll
05:23:51Masskillerit would be charging
05:23:52Masskillerlol
05:24:07Masskillercause 1% means it has 1% power left
05:24:12Masskiller-1% means?
05:24:12Masskillerlol
05:24:25Sebulba02"time to die"
05:24:36midknight2k3yes
05:25:28Masskilleryeah
05:25:29Masskillerlol
05:26:09Masskillermy hair feels so clean :D
05:26:16Masskillerand soft
05:26:19Masskillermmmm
05:26:30Masskilleri forgot to shower for like 2 days :\
05:26:43midknight2k3ddd
05:26:51Masskillerddd to you too :\\
05:27:49midknight2k3sdd
05:27:50midknight2k3dfad
05:27:51midknight2k3asdf
05:29:10bluechipmk - is it okay to test that bug for me, or is it a pain?
05:29:21midknight2k3on sim?
05:29:25bluechipyeah
05:29:37bluechip(oops two "mk"s now)
05:29:54bluechipMass has found a lovely bug in the firmware
05:30:03earHertz_battery percentage is something of an approximation
05:30:11midknight2k3not really
05:30:15midknight2k3eary
05:30:48bluechipI also notice that with Archos Firmware 1.28, I cannot power up the Recorder whilst it is charging!
05:30:48earHertz_for FMRs, looking at the voltage can give you a better idwa of pwer lef
05:31:13earHertz_bluechip: IIRC, I could
05:31:34bluechipweird
05:32:00earHertz_On an FMR, it pays until voltage dipd below 3 volts
05:32:37earHertz_Theykey factor is disk spin-up: the disk spinup temprarily reduces bvoltage by about .4 volts
05:32:38midknight2k3asdf
05:32:39midknight2k3ddd
05:32:54earHertz_if the volatge goes under 2.6 volts, the unit poers off
05:33:11midknight2k3really?
05:33:15earHertz_really
05:33:20midknight2k3neat
05:33:36bluechipmk - any chance of some help?
05:33:43earHertz_I fact, I can show you charts and graphs derived from real-time voltage smpling
05:33:52midknight2k3bluechip: on the SIM?
05:33:56bluechipyeah
05:35:04earHertz_here's a graph: http://www.diffenbach.org/rockbox/ebl_test/results/320chart.html
05:36:10earHertz_In the graph, you'll see that when you get to 2.9 volts, you're very close to out of power
05:37:14midknight2k3neat
05:37:17earHertz_But with the extended battery life patch, you still have an hour aftr you hit 2.9 volts
05:37:40earHertz_with the standard software, you have about 20 minutes
05:37:47bluechipnice work
05:38:15bluechipEH: do you have a working compiler on your machine?
05:38:32earHertz_I should note, however, this presumes that it's doingnothing but straigt playing: any directory access, etc., would limit time further, so in real life, I'd use 3.0 volts as the effective bottom
05:38:40earHertz_I do.
05:38:50earHertz_But I don't have an archos, it's in the shop
05:38:57bluechipcould I ask you to confirm a bug for me please?
05:39:03earHertz_Maybe.
05:39:06bluechipah this is handy, as it is a bug in the sim :)
05:39:14midknight2k3sim sucks
05:39:17midknight2k3dont count on it
05:39:26earHertz_I've NEVER been able to get the sim running
05:39:27bluechipcompile the 2.1 release code for windows sim and try to access a plugin
05:39:37bluechipplease
05:39:43bluechipah
05:39:55bluechipnever mind ;)
05:40:11earHertz_I've running sygwin under windows, iand I can't get the windows or the x sim to work
05:40:18earHertz_cygwin, even
05:40:28bluechipwhat os do you use
05:40:48earHertz_Windows 2000
05:40:57bluechipin theory there is a working dev kit for that
05:41:05earHertz_In theory. ;)
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05:44:47BCi'm sure it would be okay to let you try it, if you like?
05:47:12earHertz_Sure
05:47:44BCbe aware that this is a beta - but the only known prblem so far is a win98 issue
05:49:06midknight2k3gotta go all!
05:49:11BCnite
05:49:22midknight2k3bye ear by bluechip
05:49:49midknight2k3nice site, ear
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05:51:12BCeH: file ahoy
05:51:25earHertz_what is it you want me to try, blue?
05:51:59BCit's getting late over here - perhaps I will be more focussed another day
05:52:10BCthere appears to be a bug in the 2.1 release code!
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05:52:48BCbut my compiler is a botch job, so i wanted some confirmation before I submitted a p bug notice
05:52:59BC....and even try to hunt it down!
05:53:31earHertz_What's the bug?
05:53:40BCno plugin support
05:53:48BC+others
05:54:03BCdead menu options
05:55:06earHertz_Hmm.
05:55:12earHertz_zSerious bug
05:55:18BCwarnings during compile
05:55:31BCnahhh, not SERIOUS, just a pain and woth fixing
05:55:40BCBUT
05:55:46BCis it my compiler?
05:56:36earHertz_ah.
05:57:28earHertz_So you want me to compile 2.1?
05:57:36BCthat's about it :)
05:57:59earHertz_for whcih model?
05:58:10BCrecorder win32 sim
05:59:04earHertz_hanfg on
05:59:35DBUGEnqueued KICK BC
05:59:35BChowever, of cours..... 01[04:40] <earHertz_> I've running sygwin under 01windows, iand I can't get the windows or the 01x sim to work
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06:00:35earHertz_Well, but I could compile it and email it to you
06:00:57BCit compiles but does not run!? weird
06:06:03BCdoes the player have plugin support?
06:08:13earHertz_win32 or x11 sim?
06:08:19BCwin32
06:12:28earHertz_Hey, it actually is running for mew
06:13:03BCcan you see the recording menu?
06:13:25BCcan you access the plugins menu?
06:14:22earHertz_meneu|record? No.
06:14:31BCone bug
06:14:35BCmenu|plugins?
06:14:50BCthe screen bug I fixed is also back
06:16:42earHertz_Neither Plugins nor Firmware is accessable
06:16:49BChmmmmmm
06:16:56earHertz_I suspect it's a mater of the IFDEFs for versions
06:16:57BCso it is NOT my compiler
06:17:10BCdid you get 5 warnings during compile?
06:17:13earHertz_yeah
06:17:48earHertz_../../apps/plugin.c:111: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
06:17:49earHertz_../../apps/plugin.c:113: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
06:17:51DBUGEnqueued KICK earHertz_
06:17:51earHertz_../../apps/plugin.c:114: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
06:17:52earHertz_../../apps/plugin.c:116: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
06:18:14BCuisw32.rc:11:20: afxres.h: No such file or directory
06:20:39earHertz_yeah, that too
06:21:09BCthanks, I can report and fix these ..the first one is simple - must be a glitch in the configure script
06:21:37BC-DHAVE_MAS3587F
06:22:08earHertz_Oh, by the way, thanks for your support on the list
06:22:36BCYou're welcome
06:24:04BCwho do you post as there?
06:26:37earHertz_TP Diffenabch
06:26:44BCahaa
06:27:36earHertz_> > every forum has it's fair share of loons, wait around
06:27:37earHertz_>
06:27:38earHertz_>Lee, I'm not sure who you're implying is a loon. I hope you're not
06:27:40earHertz_>suggesting I am.
06:27:41earHertz_TPD
06:27:43earHertz_hee hee - you and me both ;)
06:27:51BC:)
06:28:22BCI just hope all my ranting about WAV gets a chance to pay off now
06:28:40BCGot well and truly dubbed a loon over that - LOL
06:31:17earHertz_What were you ranting about wav?
06:31:36BCthat is was not impossible
06:32:23earHertz_No, just very difficult
06:32:34earHertz_we'd have to program the mas chip
06:32:38BCyep
06:32:50BC60 instructions
06:33:08BC42 to setup 18 to run the loop
06:34:21earHertz_Yeah, what 60?
06:34:32BCwe're close
06:35:06earHertz_how close?
06:35:46BCthe biggest hurdle we now have is political
06:36:10earHertz_hmm?
06:36:25BCwhether releasing such stuff would upset mas
06:36:59earHertz_well, being sued is to be avoided
06:37:10BCindeed
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06:45:27BCgame over - nite all
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07:12:55pokerjokerhey kids
07:25:49earHertz_hmm?
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11:05:23earHertz_yo, anyone here?
11:12:26dwihno\o/
11:18:05earHertz_ah, nevermind, grepping the code answered my question
11:19:25earHertz_wait, another question: is the rock memory sttaically allocated?
11:19:38earHertz_or dynamically when the rock loads?
11:19:42dwihnoI would guess so.
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15:13:26uiibaaI just got an archos av 120 recorder... and already, Read Access Error. Can't read hard disk
15:14:12uiibaais the av 120 just crap? cause I got an older archos from them, and have had no problems (well, that is, after I installed rockbox =P)
15:42:55earHertz_Archos is famous for hardware that arrives dead. send it back.
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16:22:44uiibaaanyone else have major problems with their archos av120
16:23:06uiibaacause I don't wanna return to get another if it's gonna break again
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18:56:03casiohi all, quick question (hopefully) that I can't find an answer to on the mailing list...
18:56:26casioi just upgraded to 2.1, and now my battery indicator shows -1% (a ? in the top left)...any idea what's wrong?
18:59:33casioanyone here?
18:59:55casioI have a recorder 15
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19:14:27Doggeranyone alive?
19:15:17casioyes, and please disregard my question −− it's just the "wait a minute before battery read" feature
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20:10:07Doggerhey are there any docs on the hardware?
20:10:14Doggeror do I need to read all the source?
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21:58:34earHertz_mostly you need to read the source
21:58:48earHertz_there are some mnaufacturer's docs on the web site
21:58:57earHertz_and you can ask on the mailing list
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22:31:41DjMoufleare Rockbox exist for Gmini120 ?
22:32:08scott666no
22:33:32DjMoufleDoes there exist an equivalent?
22:33:59tracknot yet
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23:38:47zYgoateyyyyyy
23:39:10zYgoatsilly i didn't discover this before
23:39:23zYgoati'm getting an mp3 recorder - main use is recording off FM
23:39:47zYgoatiriver ifp390 (256MB) for 260 euro or archos FM Jukebox Recorder (20 GB) for 199 euro?
23:40:19zYgoatiriver archos
23:40:34zYgoat24 h 6 h est. real battery life
23:41:04zYgoatgood FM poor FM (?)
23:41:40zYgoat2hrs "unlimited" hrs recording time
23:41:54zYgoat320 128 kbps max encoding rate
23:42:32zYgoatogg no ogg
23:43:08zYgoatclosed open source firmware/apps
23:43:46zYgoatso the poor reception (and horror stories) scared me off the archos
23:44:59zYgoatbut what do you think of porting rockbox (rewriting a lot i assume) to ARM7 / Philips SAA7750?
23:45:23zYgoatoh s/ifp390/ifp590
23:47:59zYgoathah i see uClinux on arm7
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