| 00:00:15 | track | i think its 1100 mAh |
| 00:00:16 | Zagor | 2200mAh iirc |
| 00:00:23 | track | ok 2200mAh |
| 00:00:45 | Zagor | Guest75620: we simply haven't added the code to do it |
| 00:01:17 | track | do liion batteries wear out fast? |
| 00:01:24 | Guest75620 | yes but should be possible to obtain a certain sync ? |
| 00:01:44 | Guest75620 | I mean can we repeat the exact timing when reproducing a rvf ' |
| 00:01:45 | Guest75620 | ? |
| 00:01:54 | Guest75620 | Exact = the same as the original avi |
| 00:04:18 | earHertz | oooh! just got a rdl |
| 00:05:03 | Zagor | Guest75620: not for sure. there will be a problem when both the mpeg thread the the rvf view wants to buffer data from disk |
| 00:05:22 | Zagor | earHertz: congratulations :) I just committed a fix for that. |
| 00:05:45 | earHertz | for the fmr too? ;( |
| 00:05:59 | Zagor | yes |
| 00:06:26 | earHertz | sweet |
| 00:06:33 | earHertz | timing issue? |
| 00:06:35 | Guest75620 | ok but you can add some seconds of silence before the mp3 |
| 00:06:41 | Guest75620 | or something like that |
| 00:06:45 | Zagor | earHertz: yes |
| 00:07:18 | earHertz | Zagor, would you accept auto-saving settings for players but not recorders/fmrs/v2s, using an ifdef? |
| 00:07:23 | Zagor | Guest75620: that only works for the initial buffering. the problem is when you need to read more data from the disk during playback |
| 00:07:27 | lini | Guest75620 he means that after some time the mp3 buffer will be empty and because the rvf viewer is using the hdd there's no way to fill it |
| 00:07:30 | lini | right:) |
| 00:08:08 | lini | and there's currently no way to increase the video buffer up from the 32k? |
| 00:08:24 | Guest75620 | Ah ok ! Nothing can be done (software) to avoid that ? |
| 00:08:24 | Zagor | lini: actually they could both fill it, but it would create timing issues since the rvf viewer would run slower while the mpeg thread competes for the disk |
| 00:08:53 | Zagor | lini: it doesn't actually solve anything |
| 00:09:13 | Zagor | Guest75620: yes, but it's not a simple problem |
| 00:09:52 | Guest75620 | I can imagine... |
| 00:10:13 | | Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@JRAF.org) |
| 00:10:15 | BoD[] | Hello! |
| 00:10:15 | Guest75620 | but the video player ALWAYS access the disk ? |
| 00:10:19 | Zagor | hi |
| 00:10:25 | Guest75620 | Hello ! |
| 00:10:26 | BoD[] | long time no see :) |
| 00:10:33 | track | all we need is sound in the rvfs |
| 00:10:51 | BoD[] | sowhatsupppp |
| 00:10:58 | Guest75620 | I mean it doesn't have a buffer ? |
| 00:11:13 | lini | Guest75620 it has a buffer but only 32kb |
| 00:11:32 | Guest75620 | !!! So the access to disk is very frequent |
| 00:11:40 | lini | yep |
| 00:12:04 | Guest75620 | How many seconds or milliseconds (or frames/sec) can be reprodced in the whole 32kb ? |
| 00:13:07 | lini | because of the way plugins are designed, i think they cannot use more memory than that :( |
| 00:13:48 | Guest75620 | Well playing a 60mins movie it's a thing I supposed to be IMPOSSIBLE ! They are REALLY great coders !!! |
| 00:14:14 | Guest75620 | Zagor: tell me what you think about the rvf !!! |
| 00:14:22 | Guest75620 | In my opinion it's simply FANTASTIC ! |
| 00:14:34 | Zagor | yes, it's impressive |
| 00:14:43 | BoD[] | rvf ? |
| 00:15:03 | lini | around 5 frames can fit in the buffer if i can count right |
| 00:15:05 | Zagor | lini: we will add a function to the plugin api to request use of the complete mp3 buffer |
| 00:15:22 | Zagor | BoD[]: have you missed the cool stuff? we've got a movie player now... |
| 00:15:38 | | Quit track ("Leaving") |
| 00:16:13 | Guest75620 | Zagor: I mean "tell me what you think about the rvf I am sending" ... :P |
| 00:16:20 | BoD[] | :)) |
| 00:16:23 | BoD[] | is it two colors ? |
| 00:16:41 | Guest75620 | It can play even 60mins movie |
| 00:16:49 | Guest75620 | tested today ! |
| 00:16:52 | Zagor | BoD[]: about four gray scales |
| 00:17:03 | Guest75620 | and the quality is really astonishing !!! |
| 00:17:04 | BoD[] | ahh :) that's better |
| 00:17:23 | Dogger | I dont have any hardware to run it on... |
| 00:17:24 | | Join DJBaz [0] (~baz@modem-3762.panther.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
| 00:17:26 | Zagor | Guest75620: oh. i almost forgot about that file :) |
| 00:17:31 | Guest75620 | zagor is there a way to view the rvf form the pc ? |
| 00:17:31 | Dogger | can anyone show me the quality somehow? |
| 00:17:42 | Dogger | video the screen? |
| 00:17:44 | Dogger | lol |
| 00:17:49 | Guest75620 | i send u a pic |
| 00:17:52 | Guest75620 | dogger |
| 00:17:54 | Zagor | Dogger: my digicam is in the shop, i'm afraid |
| 00:18:04 | Dogger | Guest75620: thanks |
| 00:18:08 | Zagor | Guest75620: i'd like it too, if it's good |
| 00:18:09 | BoD[] | it works like the old hp calc tricks i guess ? |
| 00:18:39 | Zagor | BoD[]: well like any two-color screen: flicker at different frequencies to simulate different shades |
| 00:18:41 | Guest75620 | i am sending to both |
| 00:18:46 | BoD[] | ok |
| 00:18:51 | Guest75620 | the quality is good |
| 00:19:00 | Guest75620 | very near the lcd using macro |
| 00:19:06 | BoD[] | i have to try this :) |
| 00:19:54 | Guest75620 | Zagoor: is there a way to see the rvf without the archos ? I mean a pc player ? |
| 00:20:02 | lini | heh i'll make some pics too:) this i gotta show my friends |
| 00:20:15 | lini | especially the ones with nomad Zens :) |
| 00:20:45 | Dogger | I need to get an archos mp3 player off ebay sometime |
| 00:20:48 | Guest75620 | I also have done an util to convert form avi to rvf |
| 00:20:49 | Zagor | Guest75620: not that I know |
| 00:20:50 | Guest75620 | here |
| 00:20:50 | Guest75620 | http://members.xoom.it/andrexy/Archos Converter Util.zip |
| 00:21:11 | Guest75620 | from the archos emulator ? |
| 00:22:06 | Guest75620 | Zagor: look at the rvf |
| 00:22:29 | BoD[] | ok... no i got the new ajz and rocks |
| 00:22:33 | BoD[] | i need a video :) |
| 00:23:25 | Zagor | Guest75620: just look at it. looks good. |
| 00:23:46 | | Quit DJBaz (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 00:24:02 | Guest75620 | It's impressive ! |
| 00:24:09 | Guest75620 | the lake sequence is MAGNIFIC ! |
| 00:24:19 | Zagor | yeah |
| 00:24:30 | | Join midknight2k3 [0] (zakk@ACAAFB8F.ipt.aol.com) |
| 00:24:34 | Zagor | BoD[]: grab the doom demo for starters |
| 00:24:36 | Guest75620 | u are great |
| 00:24:37 | midknight2k3 | hio zagor! |
| 00:24:44 | Zagor | hi midknight2k3 |
| 00:24:45 | midknight2k3 | hi* |
| 00:24:50 | midknight2k3 | hey dogger |
| 00:24:50 | Guest75620 | share the rvf !!! |
| 00:24:53 | midknight2k3 | hey ear |
| 00:24:56 | midknight2k3 | my rvf? |
| 00:25:00 | midknight2k3 | i should |
| 00:25:03 | Guest75620 | Zagor: the picture is complete ! |
| 00:25:25 | Zagor | yup, looking at it now. |
| 00:25:37 | BoD[] | where is it |
| 00:25:39 | Zagor | if I didn't know it was real, i'd claim it was fake :) |
| 00:25:45 | midknight2k3 | what? |
| 00:25:46 | Guest75620 | EHEHEHEHEH |
| 00:25:47 | midknight2k3 | where |
| 00:26:03 | Guest75620 | pics of the rvf files playing and a small 2min rvf taken from the movie WILLOW |
| 00:26:10 | midknight2k3 | cool |
| 00:26:36 | Guest75620 | ASTONISHING ! |
| 00:27:10 | Guest75620 | Anyway we can also say that archos sold good LCDs ;-P |
| 00:27:12 | BoD[] | ok i gotit |
| 00:27:36 | midknight2k3 | not really but rockbox team MADE them good :) |
| 00:27:45 | lini | Guest75620 is there a crop function in virtualdub |
| 00:27:45 | Guest75620 | OF COURSE !!! |
| 00:27:53 | Guest75620 | yes it id |
| 00:27:54 | Dogger | ey midknight2k3 |
| 00:27:57 | Dogger | hey* |
| 00:28:01 | lini | i can't find a filter to crop a movie!? |
| 00:28:11 | midknight2k3 | i use vegas |
| 00:28:12 | Guest75620 | which version ? |
| 00:28:24 | lini | the one that you bundled |
| 00:28:32 | | Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) |
| 00:28:37 | Dogger | if only archos made as good firmware |
| 00:28:43 | midknight2k3 | vegas 4, guest |
| 00:28:44 | Dogger | making the BEST out of the hardware |
| 00:28:45 | midknight2k3 | didnt i tell you? |
| 00:28:57 | Guest75620 | no there isn't a specific filter |
| 00:29:00 | midknight2k3 | dogger: yes, but like linus once said, they didnt have years to write firmware for it |
| 00:29:00 | Guest75620 | wait a moment |
| 00:29:08 | midknight2k3 | they had to toss something together and pop it on |
| 00:29:37 | Dogger | sure, but they should support their products longer |
| 00:29:52 | Dogger | I expect only a couple more firmware updates for the av300, then they'll leave that |
| 00:30:05 | midknight2k3 | as in work on the old firmware when they've got about 5 new ones to work on? |
| 00:30:10 | Dogger | yes |
| 00:30:16 | Dogger | its all similar code base anyway |
| 00:30:18 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
| 00:30:52 | Dogger | nah |
| 00:30:55 | Dogger | on second thoughts |
| 00:31:00 | lini | Guest75620 nevermind i found it:) |
| 00:31:08 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 00:31:11 | Dogger | they prolly only have 1 trainee programmer making all their firmware |
| 00:31:15 | Zagor | i think it's logical that they don't spend more time on their firmware |
| 00:31:22 | midknight2k3 | very |
| 00:31:34 | midknight2k3 | rockbox is devoted, similar to avos |
| 00:31:36 | Dogger | but then if *they* had have made video player on these, |
| 00:31:42 | Zagor | what they *should* do, which would cost them nothing and win them customers, is support those who want to hack their hardware after they've stopped |
| 00:31:44 | Dogger | people would have gone *WOW* archos are gods |
| 00:31:45 | midknight2k3 | archos has to program it, release it, work more on productes etc |
| 00:31:59 | midknight2k3 | dogger: sure, but they wouldnt |
| 00:32:03 | midknight2k3 | its not even good for the lcd |
| 00:32:11 | Dogger | Zagor: absolutely agree.... so worrying they somehow believe they can now start charging for their firmware |
| 00:32:16 | midknight2k3 | why would they waste time on it? I doubt they could get it right |
| 00:32:24 | BoD[] | why the battery indicator now says "?" ? |
| 00:32:30 | Zagor | BoD[]: only the first minute |
| 00:32:33 | midknight2k3 | give it a minute bod |
| 00:32:40 | Dogger | midknight2k3: because its got a 'wow' factor... something archos firmware has never seen before |
| 00:32:52 | midknight2k3 | except for avxxx series :D |
| 00:32:53 | BoD[] | ok:) |
| 00:33:50 | midknight2k3 | dogger: i doubt itd make it into the final firmware either |
| 00:33:59 | Dogger | just seen the pic... woah thats nice display |
| 00:34:08 | midknight2k3 | archos spent more time working out all the bugs and glitches than making more features |
| 00:34:25 | midknight2k3 | if you've toyed with the orig f/w you'd know what i mean |
| 00:34:26 | Dogger | and they still left loads of bugs and glitches in |
| 00:34:31 | midknight2k3 | oh? |
| 00:34:36 | midknight2k3 | probably on the av3xx's yes |
| 00:34:41 | Dogger | (am talking about av now) |
| 00:34:41 | midknight2k3 | who couldnt |
| 00:34:53 | Dogger | er real programmers? |
| 00:34:53 | midknight2k3 | its like a bread maker and coffee brewer |
| 00:35:05 | midknight2k3 | you cant make everything work flawlessly |
| 00:35:12 | midknight2k3 | or you could, but release it years later |
| 00:35:20 | Dogger | you use windows dont you |
| 00:35:30 | Dogger | ever tried linux where it doesnt crash every hour? |
| 00:35:39 | midknight2k3 | yes, i've tried linux |
| 00:35:43 | midknight2k3 | but windows doesnt crash |
| 00:35:44 | Dogger | there are linux releases for the chip used in the av products |
| 00:35:50 | midknight2k3 | last time it did was like, 7 months ago |
| 00:35:55 | Dogger | they could have just used a modified linux kernel |
| 00:36:45 | Guest75620 | goodnight to you all ! |
| 00:36:52 | Guest75620 | and thanks again for the GREAT job ! |
| 00:36:58 | | Part Guest75620 |
| 00:37:00 | | Quit Dogger ("Client Exiting") |
| 00:40:32 | BoD[] | hey |
| 00:40:56 | BoD[] | with the Archos Converter Util |
| 00:41:11 | BoD[] | heu... nothing :) forget it |
| 00:46:11 | BoD[] | http://JRAF.org/tmp/Knick%20Knack.rvf.zip |
| 00:46:29 | | Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@pD951239D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:47:09 | Zagor | hi jörg |
| 00:47:30 | [IDC]Dragon | Hi Björn |
| 00:47:42 | [IDC]Dragon | Not in nick mode today? |
| 00:48:00 | Zagor | i'm never sure if I should call you idc or dragon :) |
| 00:48:15 | [IDC]Dragon | Jörg is fine. |
| 00:48:30 | BoD[] | it that the "quake clan" notation ? |
| 00:48:36 | BoD[] | [clan]nick |
| 00:48:41 | [IDC]Dragon | This [IDC]Dragon has a history of my spam mail account, which I used for the group |
| 00:49:08 | [IDC]Dragon | I made that account once for a LAN party registration |
| 00:49:45 | [IDC]Dragon | and used it for all crap you need a real email for later |
| 00:49:56 | Zagor | like rockbox ;) |
| 00:50:17 | [IDC]Dragon | Since rockbox, I now use it alot, it became my main private one |
| 00:50:23 | BoD[] | i prefer the demomaker notation (nick/group) |
| 00:50:52 | [IDC]Dragon | BoD[]: but what are your brackets for? |
| 00:51:02 | BoD[] | Java array :)) |
| 00:51:15 | BoD[] | but also, it's cool to add a status sometimes, like BoD[away] |
| 00:51:34 | BoD[] | but of course the real reason is that BoD was already registered here |
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| 00:52:43 | earHertz | arrrrgh!!!! |
| 00:54:10 | earHertz | idc, is there a way to restore the archos flash if I've flashed rockbox? |
| 00:54:32 | [IDC]Dragon | did you keep a dump? |
| 00:54:48 | earHertz | yeah |
| 00:55:00 | earHertz | but ?I forget the name of it |
| 00:55:24 | | Join track [0] (jirc@ACBD5820.ipt.aol.com) |
| 00:55:54 | [IDC]Dragon | internal_rom_2000000-203FFFF.bin |
| 00:56:01 | earHertz | anybody know id newmp3technology gives refunds? |
| 00:56:07 | lini | it's the 256kb file |
| 00:56:25 | track | hi |
| 00:56:50 | earHertz | ok, I've got it and the 0000-FFFF one too |
| 00:57:13 | [IDC]Dragon | you need only the 256kB one |
| 00:57:33 | earHertz | and what do I do then? |
| 00:57:50 | lini | rename it |
| 00:57:54 | [IDC]Dragon | rename it to what "firmware_flash.rock" demands |
| 00:57:57 | midknight2k3 | hi |
| 00:58:04 | [IDC]Dragon | then you can flash it |
| 00:58:23 | earHertz | the curent version of firmware_flash.rock will work? |
| 00:58:31 | [IDC]Dragon | should do |
| 00:58:47 | [IDC]Dragon | Why do you want to revert? |
| 00:59:14 | BoD[] | i go to bed |
| 00:59:17 | BoD[] | +aa+a+ |
| 00:59:19 | | Quit BoD[] ("dodo") |
| 00:59:33 | earHertz | Wjhat name does ff demand? |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:05 | [IDC]Dragon | it tells you when you start it |
| 01:00:18 | [IDC]Dragon | firmware_rec.bin or so |
| 01:00:32 | [IDC]Dragon | depends on model ond boot ROM |
| 01:00:45 | [IDC]Dragon | s/ond/and |
| 01:01:25 | earHertz | so I just play ff_rock? |
| 01:02:03 | hardeep | hmmmm, is anyone here having difficulty building the UI simnulator for Win32? |
| 01:02:20 | hardeep | 'cause I just tried on the latest daily build and it's still building/running fine for me |
| 01:02:25 | Zagor | i've only tried building it on linux (for win32!) |
| 01:02:29 | [IDC]Dragon | ear: yes |
| 01:02:45 | earHertz | I'm reverting just to double-check that flash isn't my problem |
| 01:02:47 | Zagor | hardeep: tell that to bluechip... |
| 01:02:51 | hardeep | Zagor: yeah, the linux one for win32 builds/runs fine too |
| 01:03:08 | [IDC]Dragon | earHertz: again, why revert the flash? What's the problem? |
| 01:03:20 | hardeep | Zagor: heh, not worth the aggravation. I have him on my killfile list |
| 01:03:23 | [IDC]Dragon | Ah, you just said, sorry. |
| 01:03:28 | earHertz | It's probbaly a hardware problem. |
| 01:03:35 | Zagor | hardeep: good idea :) |
| 01:03:49 | midknight2k3 | alright, buye all |
| 01:03:55 | midknight2k3 | bye* |
| 01:04:06 | | Quit midknight2k3 () |
| 01:04:07 | earHertz | I just today got it back from repair at newmp3technology, and it's alreadty having trouble booting −− gain! |
| 01:04:49 | track | hi |
| 01:08:19 | | Quit track ("Leaving") |
| 01:10:02 | [IDC]Dragon | If I buy a recorder 15 today, how are my chances to get USB 2.0? |
| 01:10:24 | hardeep | [IDC]Dragon: all the ones I've seen nowadays are USB2.0 |
| 01:10:37 | hardeep | I believe it says right on the box if it is |
| 01:11:00 | [IDC]Dragon | Amazon doesn't let me look at the box, unfortunately. |
| 01:11:08 | hardeep | ah, right :) |
| 01:11:16 | lini | is there a difference in the model number |
| 01:11:57 | lini | mine says jbrhd15 and its USB1.1 |
| 01:12:17 | [IDC]Dragon | :( |
| 01:16:03 | lini | what does one do if one gets "Can't get frame from AVI file (General error in AVI file operation)" while running avitoyuv? :) |
| 01:16:47 | [IDC]Dragon | do you have a suitable codec installed for it? |
| 01:16:58 | | Join adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-9.216-194-23-54.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) |
| 01:17:09 | lini | yep i resized it and cropped it with vdub. no problems there |
| 01:17:19 | [IDC]Dragon | what codec did you compress it with? |
| 01:17:22 | lini | its in RGB |
| 01:17:24 | lini | uncompressed |
| 01:17:38 | [IDC]Dragon | like I would recommend |
| 01:17:55 | [IDC]Dragon | maybe RGB in a strange format? |
| 01:18:03 | lini | maybe its something with the file size |
| 01:18:10 | lini | the avi becomes 3GB |
| 01:18:13 | [IDC]Dragon | can you play it? |
| 01:18:27 | lini | yes i tried and the avi plays fine |
| 01:18:33 | lini | seeks and all |
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| 01:18:41 | [IDC]Dragon | 3GB? Holy crap! Is that a whole movie? |
| 01:19:07 | [IDC]Dragon | Yes, AVIs break over 2 GB |
| 01:19:38 | lini | its ntfs so i thought file size didn't matter |
| 01:19:40 | [IDC]Dragon | MS has a bug in their index table code |
| 01:19:40 | lini | oh well |
| 01:20:22 | [IDC]Dragon | I think they even stopo generating entries over 1GB, but my knowledge about that is many years old |
| 01:20:38 | lini | but the movie plays fine in the player(all the way to the credits) |
| 01:21:12 | [IDC]Dragon | the player is probably not using the index table |
| 01:21:23 | [IDC]Dragon | try splitting it up |
| 01:21:35 | lini | i am right now:) |
| 01:21:40 | lini | 10x |
| 01:21:46 | [IDC]Dragon | you can cat the .rfv's together |
| 01:22:03 | [IDC]Dragon | or even the .yuv, better |
| 01:22:13 | earHertz | idc, I assume it's a bad sign when the firmware_flash hangs on the "Programming..." screen? |
| 01:22:28 | [IDC]Dragon | earHertz: very bad |
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| 01:22:43 | earHertz | yeah, so I thouhght |
| 01:22:46 | lini | i'll join the rfv-s they're smaller |
| 01:23:00 | earHertz | any recommendations? |
| 01:23:02 | [IDC]Dragon | such has never been reported |
| 01:23:25 | [IDC]Dragon | earHertz: under no circumstance shut it off |
| 01:23:58 | [IDC]Dragon | can you get control again without? |
| 01:24:08 | earHertz | I flashed the bin I had, but It turned out to be a rockbox bin. Then I flashed an older copy. It verified, but now it's hung |
| 01:24:32 | earHertz | It's on the "Programming..." screen. What do you suggest I do? |
| 01:24:38 | [IDC]Dragon | it verified OK? |
| 01:24:48 | earHertz | yup |
| 01:24:49 | [IDC]Dragon | verify is after programming |
| 01:25:06 | earHertz | no, I mean on the F1 screen. checked ok |
| 01:25:18 | [IDC]Dragon | Ah. |
| 01:25:37 | earHertz | The green led is on, the red is off, the backlight timed out |
| 01:25:37 | [IDC]Dragon | this sounds very bad. I'm afraid for your box. |
| 01:25:49 | earHertz | me too |
| 01:25:49 | [IDC]Dragon | is DC connected? |
| 01:26:02 | diddystar5 | wow very bad |
| 01:26:14 | earHertz | yes, it is. It wasn't for the first flash (of what turned out to be rockbox) but was for the second |
| 01:26:18 | earHertz | dc is still connected |
| 01:26:35 | [IDC]Dragon | OK. leave it in, that prevents shutdown. |
| 01:26:35 | earHertz | shall I press any buttons? |
| 01:26:50 | earHertz | Ok, I'll leave ith edc in. |
| 01:27:07 | [IDC]Dragon | let me check the code... |
| 01:28:56 | [IDC]Dragon | the programming has timeouts, so it can't get stuck. |
| 01:30:06 | [IDC]Dragon | If the flash is somehow not programmable, it will carry on (and be slower while doing that), the later verify will give you errors. |
| 01:30:47 | [IDC]Dragon | if the programming is really stuck, the software must have crashed. |
| 01:31:49 | diddystar5 | maybe he is luckly, and it finished it's jop and then crahed? |
| 01:31:55 | diddystar5 | *job |
| 01:32:07 | earHertz | I suspect it crashed. as i mentioned, hardware problems |
| 01:32:18 | [IDC]Dragon | or it didn't start |
| 01:32:38 | earHertz | Dammit, and I'd finished all of the extended battery life today, except for the menu part |
| 01:33:09 | [IDC]Dragon | ??? |
| 01:33:26 | earHertz | and I got test B's features with test A's savings |
| 01:33:45 | [IDC]Dragon | ??? |
| 01:33:46 | diddystar5 | didn;t that test finsh a LONG time ago? |
| 01:33:57 | earHertz | um, a patch I was working on, idc |
| 01:34:04 | [IDC]Dragon | The test from Tom? |
| 01:34:07 | earHertz | It did, but my archos was broken. |
| 01:34:08 | Zagor | bed time. bye all. |
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| 01:34:14 | earHertz | Hah. I guess it's still broken |
| 01:34:23 | earHertz | I am tom |
| 01:34:29 | diddystar5 | ohhh |
| 01:34:30 | diddystar5 | lol |
| 01:34:30 | [IDC]Dragon | Diffenbach? |
| 01:34:36 | earHertz | That one. |
| 01:34:39 | diddystar5 | never knew that |
| 01:34:44 | earHertz | ;) |
| 01:34:46 | [IDC]Dragon | Ah. |
| 01:34:53 | diddystar5 | did you ever do any more work on it? |
| 01:34:54 | [IDC]Dragon | YOu have an FM, right? |
| 01:34:58 | earHertz | yah |
| 01:35:09 | earHertz | diddystar5, I did not work until today. |
| 01:35:18 | earHertz | because my archos wasn't really working |
| 01:35:33 | [IDC]Dragon | UART boot mod is easy for that one, if it comforts you |
| 01:35:39 | earHertz | and the recorder data from the tests were a bit different from the fmr data: |
| 01:35:52 | earHertz | easy for you, perhaps. |
| 01:36:13 | earHertz | anyway, I think there's a continuing hardware problem underlying this |
| 01:36:27 | diddystar5 | both of my tests were about the same (for the one that saved power, and the baseline thay didnt) |
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| 01:36:55 | diddystar5 | what was the differnce betwene test A and B? |
| 01:36:58 | earHertz | Yeah, but on test A you started out with less of a charge. |
| 01:37:12 | earHertz | when I massaged the data |
| 01:37:30 | diddystar5 | i thik my batteries were fully charged |
| 01:37:37 | earHertz | your tests ended up looking like this: v |
| 01:37:41 | earHertz | http://www.diffenbach.org/rockbox/ebl_test/results/192-Recorder.html |
| 01:37:51 | earHertz | they were almost fully charged. |
| 01:39:07 | earHertz | This is your first 30 minutes for each test, diddy: |
| 01:39:09 | earHertz | 03620871419203113843319203607850 |
| 01:39:10 | earHertz | 53159886231925315978414192533101846 |
| 01:39:12 | earHertz | 10621088543192106360083631921061593842 |
| 01:39:13 | earHertz | 15926228513192159310083431921592595838 |
| 01:39:15 | earHertz | 20123114848419220122601830319220122095836 |
| 01:39:16 | earHertz | 25154623843319225151601827419225152597833 |
| 01:39:18 | earHertz | 30183122841319230182603826419230183098829 |
| 01:39:50 | earHertz | You were most charged (871) on the baseline test, least (843) on test A |
| 01:40:04 | diddystar5 | humm |
| 01:40:46 | diddystar5 | i charged them with the archos firmware, and i left it until it quit |
| 01:40:52 | diddystar5 | so... |
| 01:40:57 | diddystar5 | maybe its not so accurate |
| 01:41:04 | diddystar5 | (archos firm) |
| 01:41:13 | earHertz | here it is in volts (the other numbers are rockbox internal) |
| 01:41:14 | earHertz | 0.010.605.630.010.525.450.010.605.50 |
| 01:41:16 | earHertz | 0.095.275.570.095.275.440.095.525.47 |
| 01:41:18 | earHertz | 0.1710.355.520.1810.605.400.1710.275.44 |
| 01:41:19 | earHertz | 0.2615.445.500.2615.525.390.2615.435.42 |
| 01:41:21 | earHertz | 0.3420.525.480.3420.435.370.3420.355.40 |
| 01:41:22 | earHertz | 0.4325.775.450.4225.275.350.4225.435.39 |
| 01:41:24 | earHertz | 0.5130.525.440.5130.435.340.5130.525.36 |
| 01:41:25 | earHertz | 0.5935.445.410.6035.775.320.5935.355.35 |
| 01:41:29 | earHertz | No, it's just hard to get exact charges |
| 01:41:31 | earHertz | It's not your fault |
| 01:41:49 | earHertz | The higher the charge, the more time it takes to accumulate more charge. |
| 01:41:54 | diddystar5 | what was the differnce in test A and B? |
| 01:42:50 | earHertz | After normalizing by "starting" each test at similar voltages (by ignoring the earlier parts of baseline & test B), test A lasted 13% longer tnan basline, test B 5% longer |
| 01:43:50 | earHertz | even without normalizing, test A was 5% longer |
| 01:43:55 | diddystar5 | ohh |
| 01:44:24 | earHertz | Again, you can see the normalizedc graph here: http://www.diffenbach.org/rockbox/ebl_test/results/192-Recorder.html |
| 01:44:38 | earHertz | [IDC]Dragon, any ideas? |
| 01:44:57 | diddystar5 | im loking at the graph now |
| 01:45:34 | [IDC]Dragon | ah, done withstatistics? |
| 01:45:50 | earHertz | yeah |
| 01:46:01 | [IDC]Dragon | how about tapping off lightly? |
| 01:46:10 | earHertz | lightly? |
| 01:46:20 | [IDC]Dragon | briefly |
| 01:46:21 | earHertz | a little tap |
| 01:46:37 | earHertz | no change |
| 01:47:23 | [IDC]Dragon | I am thinking about the longer one, but that may reset it. |
| 01:48:03 | [IDC]Dragon | I think you have no choice |
| 01:48:26 | [IDC]Dragon | you flashed the original? |
| 01:48:41 | lini | what about plugging the usb cable? |
| 01:48:43 | earHertz | I'm not sure if it was the original or not |
| 01:48:54 | earHertz | it was my oildest backup of the 256k .bin |
| 01:48:59 | [IDC]Dragon | usb may be a good idea, too |
| 01:49:16 | earHertz | let me try usb |
| 01:49:18 | earHertz | ? |
| 01:49:25 | [IDC]Dragon | loof inside the file with a hex viewer |
| 01:49:28 | [IDC]Dragon | look |
| 01:52:06 | earHertz | what am I looking for? |
| 01:52:17 | [IDC]Dragon | do you have it open? |
| 01:53:05 | earHertz | yeah |
| 01:53:45 | [IDC]Dragon | tell my byte 0x0c ... 0x0f |
| 01:53:48 | [IDC]Dragon | me |
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| 01:54:26 | [IDC]Dragon | 12-15, that is |
| 01:54:59 | [IDC]Dragon | hello? |
| 01:55:13 | earHertz | 00 00 23 04 |
| 01:55:27 | [IDC]Dragon | ok, this is Archos |
| 01:55:41 | [IDC]Dragon | it's the size of the first image |
| 01:55:49 | earHertz | ah |
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| 01:56:08 | [IDC]Dragon | which is either my bootloader (small) or Archos' one (big) |
| 01:56:36 | earHertz | 1059d |
| 01:56:52 | earHertz | next suggestion? |
| 01:57:00 | lini | movies play a lot faster on the box :( |
| 01:57:36 | [IDC]Dragon | so you have no dual boot nor minimon at f3 |
| 01:57:39 | earHertz | the movies look great. idc, you do amaze me |
| 01:57:56 | [IDC]Dragon | lini: use -m to set the framerate of you movie |
| 01:58:02 | lini | yea it looks f*cking amazing :) |
| 01:58:03 | earHertz | well, it's still stuck on the "Programming..." screen. |
| 01:58:12 | lini | 10x will try |
| 01:58:22 | earHertz | so I don't know what I have or don't have. |
| 01:58:43 | earHertz | except a $550 paper weight |
| 01:58:45 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm afraid you'd have to knock it off |
| 01:58:53 | [IDC]Dragon | $550? |
| 01:58:53 | diddystar5 | i think the only thing you can do is to hard reboot |
| 01:59:13 | earHertz | archos + 60GB drive + 110 for newmp3tech to repair it. |
| 01:59:19 | earHertz | Just got it back from repair today |
| 01:59:35 | [IDC]Dragon | you should have warranty on the repair |
| 01:59:38 | earHertz | so, idc, what do you suggest I do next? |
| 01:59:49 | earHertz | yes, that's true |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:00 | [IDC]Dragon | press off longer, but I think it won't help |
| 02:00:13 | earHertz | what about attaching the usb cable? |
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| 02:00:37 | lini | does the usb cable reset rockbox as it resets orig firmware? |
| 02:00:43 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, try usb, buttons, whatever |
| 02:01:05 | earHertz | buttons: no |
| 02:01:09 | earHertz | usb: no |
| 02:01:47 | [IDC]Dragon | it would be very preferable if we can get control back to rockbox, to dump the flash, reflash, etc. |
| 02:01:49 | earHertz | off button did work |
| 02:02:02 | [IDC]Dragon | what happened? |
| 02:02:07 | earHertz | screen is off, both leds are on: green & red |
| 02:02:26 | [IDC]Dragon | hmm |
| 02:02:33 | diddystar5 | uhh o |
| 02:02:37 | [IDC]Dragon | looks no good, no sign of life? |
| 02:02:40 | earHertz | pressing f3 turned off the red led. |
| 02:03:15 | [IDC]Dragon | interesting, what mode is that, which sotware does it? |
| 02:03:18 | earHertz | holding off for a while turns on red led |
| 02:03:34 | earHertz | f3 no longer turns off red led |
| 02:03:47 | [IDC]Dragon | can you see the drive when plugging usb? |
| 02:04:06 | earHertz | holding off cause red led to turn off, then back on. |
| 02:04:27 | earHertz | no drive |
| 02:04:39 | earHertz | oh, wait, here it comes |
| 02:05:10 | earHertz | and now windows is complaining I unplugged it without first ejecting it |
| 02:07:00 | diddystar5 | work? |
| 02:07:18 | earHertz | nope |
| 02:07:45 | earHertz | usb when connected immediately windows complains it's been unplugged. |
| 02:08:42 | earHertz | well, idc, at least it lasted long enough that I finanly saw your doom movie today. |
| 02:08:57 | diddystar5 | goin gto hard reboot? |
| 02:09:01 | earHertz | any reason not to unplug the dc? |
| 02:09:04 | [IDC]Dragon | not worth dying for |
| 02:10:01 | [IDC]Dragon | seems impossible to regain control |
| 02:10:16 | diddystar5 | the moment of truth |
| 02:10:21 | [IDC]Dragon | or what do you think? |
| 02:10:39 | earHertz | I think theres no firmware to boot it |
| 02:10:43 | diddystar5 | will it work when you turn it off then backon? |
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| 02:10:59 | earHertz | no |
| 02:11:07 | [IDC]Dragon | probably not, but I see no alternative |
| 02:11:15 | earHertz | pressing on gets me both leds, holding off gets me hard-ware off |
| 02:11:22 | [IDC]Dragon | did you powe cycle it? |
| 02:11:46 | earHertz | yah |
| 02:12:17 | [IDC]Dragon | some part of the firmware must be there |
| 02:12:28 | earHertz | yeah? |
| 02:12:39 | [IDC]Dragon | the bootrom looks for "ARCH" as the first 4 bytes |
| 02:12:41 | earHertz | little good that does me |
| 02:13:12 | [IDC]Dragon | if that's not present, it flashes the LED for a while and dozes off |
| 02:13:21 | earHertz | ah |
| 02:13:37 | diddystar5 | were you flashing a .ucl or the bin with bootloader ETC? |
| 02:13:46 | earHertz | a bin |
| 02:13:58 | earHertz | I got it back from newmp3 today. |
| 02:14:16 | earHertz | It was working fine from 11:30 to about a hour ago. |
| 02:14:34 | diddystar5 | send it back dont they have a warrenty? lol |
| 02:15:04 | earHertz | then it began to show the old symptipoms: reluctants boots, scrambled screems, an upside down "IllInstr", and a tendency to freeze if f1 was held |
| 02:15:15 | [IDC]Dragon | I doubt they'r able to reflash it |
| 02:15:25 | earHertz | wishing to eliminate any questions, I decided to re-flash the firmware back to oem conditions. |
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| 02:15:34 | midknight2k3 | hey |
| 02:15:55 | earHertz | yeah. |
| 02:15:59 | midknight2k3 | fine. |
| 02:16:04 | earHertz | so, idc, what do you suggest? |
| 02:16:09 | diddystar5 | my rec is currently sitting in a shelf, and if it turn it on it say ata error -11 |
| 02:16:33 | diddystar5 | the wire that powers the hd is broken right now |
| 02:16:56 | diddystar5 | :( |
| 02:17:11 | [IDC]Dragon | you coul play dumb and send it back, hoping they don't read this |
| 02:17:21 | earHertz | send it back to whom? |
| 02:17:39 | [IDC]Dragon | your mp3tech? |
| 02:17:41 | diddystar5 | newmp3tech |
| 02:17:53 | earHertz | if I do, I'll tell them about the re-flashing |
| 02:18:02 | earHertz | can't expect diagnosis otherwise |
| 02:18:18 | earHertz | and clearly the hardware problems weren't cleared up |
| 02:18:37 | [IDC]Dragon | hmm, the diagnostic may get better, but they may refuse |
| 02:18:37 | earHertz | what's the uart mod require? |
| 02:18:45 | earHertz | they may |
| 02:18:48 | midknight2k3 | gotta go lol |
| 02:18:49 | lini | setting -m 25 on a 25fps movie made it slower than the original.. going to experiment until i get it right :) |
| 02:18:52 | diddystar5 | arent you a good enough solderer to do serial mod? |
| 02:18:57 | midknight2k3 | er wait |
| 02:19:01 | earHertz | probably not |
| 02:19:21 | diddystar5 | lini: try 65 to 80 |
| 02:19:29 | [IDC]Dragon | lini: what fps do you get when playing? |
| 02:19:41 | midknight2k3 | ill be back in a bit |
| 02:19:57 | lini | i'll make a smaller segment |
| 02:19:59 | [IDC]Dragon | use that for -p |
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| 02:20:24 | lini | about 70(68-69) |
| 02:20:45 | [IDC]Dragon | ok, use that for -p |
| 02:20:50 | diddystar5 | need to go |
| 02:20:57 | [IDC]Dragon | and the movie rate for -m |
| 02:20:59 | diddystar5 | see you people later |
| 02:21:02 | lini | do i leave the -m or just use -p? |
| 02:21:05 | lini | ah ok |
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| 02:21:48 | [IDC]Dragon | earHertz: you need to do a UART mod, which is attaching 2 wires |
| 02:22:04 | earHertz | to what? |
| 02:22:06 | [IDC]Dragon | you need a level converter to connect that to your PC |
| 02:22:29 | earHertz | what's a level converter, and how much does it cost? |
| 02:22:47 | [IDC]Dragon | the wires go to a 2*3 diagnostic area which Archos prepared |
| 02:23:38 | [IDC]Dragon | it's translating the +12V/-12V swing at the PC side to 3V/0V at Archos side |
| 02:23:47 | [IDC]Dragon | and the opposite |
| 02:24:14 | [IDC]Dragon | most practical is probably to use a mobile phone adapter |
| 02:26:07 | earHertz | crrap |
| 02:26:45 | [IDC]Dragon | I have to leave soon |
| 02:26:58 | [IDC]Dragon | 2:30 am here |
| 02:27:11 | lini | heh 3:30 am here :p |
| 02:28:39 | earHertz | thanks for you help |
| 02:29:10 | [IDC]Dragon | I wasn't any help, very sorry. |
| 02:29:33 | [IDC]Dragon | you're in the US, right? |
| 02:29:39 | earHertz | no, at least I was able to talk to thew person most knowledgable abourt the flash. |
| 02:29:44 | earHertz | So I know where things stand |
| 02:29:53 | earHertz | I'm in the US, yes |
| 02:30:29 | [IDC]Dragon | not really practicalto ship the box to me then |
| 02:30:52 | earHertz | If I did, you'd what, UART mod it and re-write the flash? |
| 02:31:38 | lini | pretty close to the actual framerate now;) |
| 02:31:53 | lini | box a little bit faster |
| 02:31:58 | [IDC]Dragon | could do that, but it won't fix the rest of your hardware |
| 02:33:00 | earHertz | yeah, true |
| 02:33:44 | earHertz | you're in .de? |
| 02:34:10 | [IDC]Dragon | yes |
| 02:34:56 | earHertz | $14 to mail there |
| 02:35:15 | earHertz | crap |
| 02:35:16 | [IDC]Dragon | and how much for the return? |
| 02:35:20 | earHertz | you need to go to bed. |
| 02:35:31 | [IDC]Dragon | yes |
| 02:35:32 | earHertz | who knows |
| 02:35:46 | earHertz | I'll chat with you later |
| 02:36:04 | [IDC]Dragon | OK, cu |
| 02:36:09 | earHertz | bye |
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| 02:37:50 | lini | playback with sound works but framerate suffers when filling the mp3 buffer:( |
| 02:42:54 | midknight2k3 | sdd |
| 02:54:08 | midknight2k3 | sdd |
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| 04:38:02 | earHertz | who's here? |
| 04:38:31 | Sebulba02 | That depends. |
| 04:38:48 | earHertz | got an fmr? |
| 04:39:10 | Sebulba02 | Nope, just a rec. |
| 04:39:33 | earHertz | darn |
| 04:41:45 | brking_home | i have an fmr |
| 04:42:15 | earHertz | do me a favor. Take the battery cover off |
| 04:44:19 | brking_home | now what? |
| 04:45:05 | earHertz | see the green circuit board? |
| 04:45:13 | brking_home | yep |
| 04:45:34 | earHertz | is it flat all the way acroos, or does it bend in one direction? |
| 04:46:50 | brking_home | it's pretty much flat all the way across |
| 04:47:45 | brking_home | the small screw in the center pulls it towards to top a bit, but aside from that its flat |
| 04:48:20 | earHertz | thanks. |
| 04:48:34 | earHertz | how long have you had your fmr? |
| 04:49:43 | brking_home | a few months |
| 04:50:29 | brking_home | got it as a best buy replacement when my studio 20 died |
| 04:50:48 | earHertz | how long had you had your studio? |
| 04:51:57 | brking_home | back up,,, I got a rec as a replacement for my studio,,, then an fmr as a replacement for my studio |
| 04:52:33 | brking_home | I got my first studio right about the time rockbox was starting |
| 04:52:33 | earHertz | you got a rec first? and it died? so you got an fmr? |
| 04:53:11 | brking_home | i got a studio first, it died, got another, it died, got a recorder, it died. now I have an fmr |
| 04:53:22 | earHertz | jesus |
| 04:53:51 | brking_home | thankfully best buy paid for each replacement |
| 04:54:17 | earHertz | I voided my warranty installing a 60gb disk |
| 04:55:29 | brking_home | bummer |
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| 07:09:12 | Masskiller | why wont it auto-load the cvs version |
| 07:09:30 | Masskiller | even when i put the .ajz in the .rockbox folder |
| 07:09:37 | Masskiller | and load it via the firmware entry in the menu |
| 07:09:37 | Masskiller | :S |
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| 07:10:31 | ^^neo^^ | hey someone here ? |
| 07:10:34 | ^^neo^^ | ply |
| 07:11:29 | ^^neo^^ | for what is the plugin "video" ??? |
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| 11:47:52 | pokerjoker | anyone home |
| 11:52:24 | dwihno | \o/ |
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| 12:35:32 | pokerjoker | ahh |
| 12:35:40 | pokerjoker | what does PANIC mean. its not good eh |
| 12:36:09 | pokerjoker | usually when i see Panic i get uptight |
| 12:36:13 | dwihno | erhm |
| 12:36:15 | dwihno | when does it occur? |
| 12:37:01 | pokerjoker | just once when i turned it on. didnt recognize hard drive |
| 12:42:06 | dwihno | hmm |
| 12:42:09 | dwihno | strange |
| 12:42:20 | pokerjoker | glitch i guess. |
| 12:43:05 | pokerjoker | i like rockbox though |
| 12:43:20 | pokerjoker | i hope midknight2k3 comes in soon |
| 12:44:52 | dwihno | Using the original firmware doesn't cause any kind of problem? |
| 12:52:20 | pokerjoker | just happened once, then the other times it was ok |
| 12:52:38 | pokerjoker | but the fact that it said PANIC kinda made me think it was permanently screwed |
| 12:54:55 | dwihno | You should write all information on-screen down when that happens. |
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| 13:40:37 | pokerjoker | ok. will do. thanks and see ya |
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| 16:12:29 | Dogger | instead of an elf? |
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| 19:58:17 | track | hi |
| 19:58:26 | methangas | lo |
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| 21:12:20 | lini | any1 alive? |
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| 21:41:54 | ^^neo^^ | hey |
| 21:42:03 | track | hi |
| 21:42:07 | ^^neo^^ | for what is the video plugin ? |
| 21:42:54 | ^^neo^^ | I just saw it in plugins |
| 21:43:16 | track | enables you to view video clips. (.rvf files) |
| 21:43:22 | ^^neo^^ | anno? |
| 21:43:24 | ^^neo^^ | no? |
| 21:43:41 | ^^neo^^ | how to convert to this .rvf ? |
| 21:44:07 | ^^neo^^ | or where to download rvf movies = |
| 21:44:30 | track | you need Virtualdub to resize the .avi file to 112x64 and you need 2 programs to make the .rvf file from the avi |
| 21:44:48 | ^^neo^^ | du you have a smale smaple file ? |
| 21:44:56 | ^^neo^^ | which u could send me ? |
| 21:45:03 | track | not at the moment sorry |
| 21:45:07 | track | ask Linus or Zagor |
| 21:45:10 | track | they prob know |
| 21:45:16 | track | You don't get sound howevery |
| 21:45:22 | ^^neo^^ | hmm |
| 21:45:38 | ^^neo^^ | which programs are these ? |
| 21:45:56 | ^^neo^^ | and does it work for mpg too ? |
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| 21:46:32 | track | no just avi |
| 21:46:47 | ^^neo^^ | ohh i need to know how it works |
| 21:47:10 | ^^neo^^ | can you explain me ? |
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| 21:48:58 | ^^neo^^ | hmm |
| 21:54:04 | ^^neo^^ | someone here can help me to convert .avi -> .rvf ??? |
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| 21:59:14 | Masskiller | hey uh |
| 21:59:14 | Masskiller | :| |
| 21:59:17 | Masskiller | anyone here? |
| 21:59:20 | ^^neo^^ | yes |
| 21:59:26 | Masskiller | anyone here that can help me? |
| 21:59:26 | Masskiller | lol |
| 21:59:29 | ^^neo^^ | no |
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| 22:00:45 | Masskiller | ;\ |
| 22:00:46 | lini | hello :) |
| 22:00:51 | Masskiller | can you help? :D |
| 22:01:09 | lini | ^^neo^^ try this link |
| 22:01:09 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Masskiller |
| 22:01:09 | Masskiller | ,01•^^neo^^,01• i have virtualdub |
| 22:01:12 | lini | members.xoom.virgilio.it/andrexy/Archos%20Converter%20Util.zip |
| 22:01:19 | Masskiller | awesome |
| 22:01:24 | Masskiller | http:// |
| 22:01:27 | lini | yes |
| 22:01:30 | Masskiller | http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/andrexy/Archos%20Converter%20Util.zip |
| 22:01:31 | Masskiller | :D |
| 22:01:44 | Masskiller | i got me some 2100mAh batteries |
| 22:01:47 | Masskiller | and some 1850Mah |
| 22:01:49 | Masskiller | mAh* |
| 22:01:50 | lini | its virtualdub + avi2yuv + halftone |
| 22:01:50 | Masskiller | lol |
| 22:01:53 | ^^neo^^ | me 2200 :) |
| 22:01:57 | Masskiller | awh :( |
| 22:02:01 | Masskiller | where/hoe :\ |
| 22:02:03 | Masskiller | how* |
| 22:02:03 | Masskiller | lol |
| 22:02:20 | ^^neo^^ | but rockbox doesent use it well |
| 22:02:45 | Masskiller | heh :\ |
| 22:02:48 | Masskiller | thats why i got 2100 |
| 22:02:48 | Masskiller | lol |
| 22:02:59 | ^^neo^^ | ok got the utitlity and now ? |
| 22:03:32 | lini | get an .avi file and put it in the folder then run the batch script |
| 22:04:00 | ^^neo^^ | which folder and which batch script ? |
| 22:04:00 | lini | there should be a readme file |
| 22:04:40 | lini | extract the contents of the archive somewhere |
| 22:04:48 | lini | and put the movie in the same folder |
| 22:05:09 | ^^neo^^ | in Stuff ? |
| 22:06:00 | ^^neo^^ | ahj sry musst rename it |
| 22:06:09 | lini | where the "convert" script is |
| 22:06:16 | lini | read the readme file :) |
| 22:07:30 | Masskiller | :D |
| 22:07:31 | Masskiller | awesome |
| 22:07:33 | Masskiller | lol |
| 22:07:37 | Masskiller | im gonna convert something cool |
| 22:07:42 | Masskiller | i dont know what |
| 22:07:46 | Masskiller | but it'll be cool |
| 22:07:47 | Masskiller | lol |
| 22:08:33 | ^^neo^^ | where does it save the convertet file ? |
| 22:08:55 | Masskiller | the internet |
| 22:08:56 | Masskiller | :| |
| 22:08:57 | Masskiller | lol |
| 22:09:01 | lini | same place |
| 22:09:03 | ^^neo^^ | ah i have it it was 10mb before and now 50mb |
| 22:09:08 | Masskiller | lol |
| 22:09:09 | Masskiller | :| |
| 22:09:09 | ^^neo^^ | and now ? |
| 22:09:21 | Masskiller | put on mp3 player |
| 22:09:23 | Masskiller | and play it |
| 22:09:23 | Masskiller | lol |
| 22:09:44 | ^^neo^^ | IMPORTANT: non-compressed avi files could be VERY LARGE (almost 2Gb for a 650Mb DivX movie |
| 22:09:47 | ^^neo^^ | Ö= |
| 22:09:49 | Masskiller | yeah haha |
| 22:10:00 | Masskiller | which is why you use small files :| |
| 22:10:06 | Masskiller | of course |
| 22:10:10 | Masskiller | when they're resized |
| 22:10:13 | Masskiller | its a lot smaller file |
| 22:10:21 | ^^neo^^ | ok i try |
| 22:11:12 | ^^neo^^ | ok he doesent know the file |
| 22:11:16 | ^^neo^^ | and its still avi |
| 22:12:23 | ^^neo^^ | whats wrong? |
| 22:12:45 | lini | should be rvf, not avi |
| 22:13:05 | lini | probably a problem while converting |
| 22:13:19 | lini | leave it until a better converter comes out;) |
| 22:13:33 | ^^neo^^ | mhh |
| 22:15:24 | ^^neo^^ | i just renamed it to rvf :) i got to see a flashin screen |
| 22:15:57 | lini | nope that won't do |
| 22:16:11 | lini | if its not rvf originally it won't play :) |
| 22:16:24 | ^^neo^^ | but why doese it not converte to rvf ? |
| 22:16:39 | lini | could be a number of things |
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| 22:19:56 | ^^neo^^ | ok it does work now |
| 22:20:07 | ^^neo^^ | but why does it not use fulscreen = |
| 22:22:21 | ^^neo^^ | ? |
| 22:23:59 | ^^neo^^ | huhu |
| 22:26:02 | ^^neo^^ | lini ? |
| 22:27:09 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 22:27:09 | * | ^^neo^^ crawls with an evil >:-)) towards lini |
| 22:27:11 | * | ^^neo^^ takes out his megaphone and shouts WAKE UUUUUUP!!!! into lini's Ear ;-)) |
| 22:27:16 | ^^neo^^ | :) |
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| 22:37:08 | lini | ^^neo^^ what do you mean by fullscreen? |
| 22:37:27 | ^^neo^^ | the full display |
| 22:37:40 | lini | well it should :) |
| 22:37:40 | ^^neo^^ | there are at least 10mm not in use |
| 22:37:48 | ^^neo^^ | on top n bottom |
| 22:38:01 | ^^neo^^ | well thats not the real problem atm |
| 22:39:08 | ^^neo^^ | if you click the batchfile doese it start the convert autimaitcally or do you need du chose option 1,2 or3 ? |
| 22:39:22 | lini | you have to choose i think |
| 22:39:37 | ^^neo^^ | thats the problem its starts without this |
| 22:40:25 | lini | it has to do some work before it |
| 22:40:27 | ^^neo^^ | ohh just wait a sec |
| 22:40:28 | lini | so just wait:) |
| 22:42:35 | ^^neo^^ | ok works perfect now |
| 22:42:42 | ^^neo^^ | i love rockbox :)) |
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| 22:42:54 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK ^^neo^^ |
| 22:42:54 | * | ^^neo^^ welcomes "¨¨°º©o., lini ,.o©º°¨¨" to the coolest channel in the network! |
| 22:43:11 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 22:43:11 | * | Masskiller Pimp Slaps ^^neo^^ |
| 22:44:36 | ^^neo^^ | must go to sleep now |
| 22:44:43 | ^^neo^^ | cu |
| 22:44:52 | ^^neo^^ | i love rockbox :)= |
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| 22:55:37 | lini | any1 alive? |
| 22:55:48 | [IDC]Dragon | barely |
| 22:56:31 | lini | i've asked this question a lot lately but alas with no response yet:( |
| 22:56:52 | lini | what software do i need to modify a font file? |
| 22:56:56 | [IDC]Dragon | which question? |
| 22:57:01 | lini | or where can i find the file format |
| 22:57:01 | [IDC]Dragon | ah |
| 22:57:06 | lini | so i can write my own |
| 22:57:17 | [IDC]Dragon | there is pfaedit |
| 22:57:27 | [IDC]Dragon | i think that's the name |
| 22:57:42 | [IDC]Dragon | and a converter for rockbox format |
| 22:58:05 | [IDC]Dragon | pfaedit is for linux |
| 22:58:43 | lini | ic..and is the converter in the source someplace? |
| 22:59:02 | [IDC]Dragon | yes |
| 22:59:08 | lini | good |
| 22:59:10 | lini | thanks |
| 22:59:40 | [IDC]Dragon | I tried pfaedit under Windows, doesn't really work |
| 22:59:54 | lini | well if i know the format |
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| 23:00:01 | lini | i can find another editor |
| 23:00:29 | [IDC]Dragon | http://rockbox.haxx.se/fonts/ |
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| 23:00:33 | Masskiller | hey uh |
| 23:00:39 | Masskiller | whenever i load a daily build |
| 23:00:43 | Masskiller | it loads fine and stuff |
| 23:00:46 | Masskiller | but when i reboot |
| 23:00:46 | | Part Plugh |
| 23:00:51 | Masskiller | its back at old 2.1 :( |
| 23:01:11 | [IDC]Dragon | have you flashed? |
| 23:01:16 | Masskiller | yep |
| 23:01:24 | Masskiller | i suppose i can try again |
| 23:01:34 | [IDC]Dragon | but obviously notthe daily build |
| 23:01:39 | Masskiller | i did |
| 23:01:39 | Masskiller | :| |
| 23:01:42 | [IDC]Dragon | play the .ucl |
| 23:01:48 | Masskiller | i did :| |
| 23:02:07 | uski | [IDC]Dragon: hi |
| 23:02:08 | [IDC]Dragon | then you flashed 2.1? |
| 23:02:12 | [IDC]Dragon | hi |
| 23:02:20 | Masskiller | i dont know what i did lol |
| 23:02:28 | Masskiller | im gonna go mess around and hope i dont break it |
| 23:02:31 | Masskiller | haha :\ |
| 23:02:45 | | Join MasterLee [0] (~MasterLee@65.120.145.91) |
| 23:02:48 | [IDC]Dragon | not by playing ucl's |
| 23:02:52 | MasterLee | AJBM support? |
| 23:02:53 | MasterLee | :-D |
| 23:03:00 | MasterLee | or is that still out? |
| 23:04:21 | [IDC]Dragon | not supported |
| 23:04:30 | Masskiller | uh |
| 23:04:32 | MasterLee | Damnit. :) |
| 23:04:32 | Masskiller | :| |
| 23:04:38 | MasterLee | Yeah, I figured |
| 23:04:59 | MasterLee | the AV's are supported recently aren't they? |
| 23:05:33 | [IDC]Dragon | no, there's just one guy workingin private on it |
| 23:05:35 | Masskiller | oh horray |
| 23:05:39 | Masskiller | it works now :D |
| 23:05:42 | Masskiller | i <3 you |
| 23:05:42 | Masskiller | lol |
| 23:07:30 | MasterLee | Damn. :) |
| 23:07:47 | MasterLee | well, thanks anyway. Rockbox does rock. |
| 23:07:49 | MasterLee | that's for sure |
| 23:10:59 | lini | a nasty bug i hate is that the box does not recognize the usb cable sometimes when i plug it in. Did someone else report this ever? |
| 23:13:08 | | Join strestout1_ [0] (~Linux@user187.net761.nc.sprint-hsd.net) |
| 23:13:58 | [IDC]Dragon | lini: yes, happens to me sometimes. |
| 23:14:16 | strestout1_ | hello everyone |
| 23:15:08 | lini | also i have not been able to achieve correct speed of the video playback |
| 23:15:37 | lini | i tried every value of p and the answer lies someplace between 68 and 69 |
| 23:16:00 | strestout1_ | anyone here run linux and own an archos? |
| 23:16:31 | lini | so no hope of sync with the sound |
| 23:16:57 | [IDC]Dragon | lini: did you specify -m properly? |
| 23:17:51 | [IDC]Dragon | you can use float values as well, e.g. -p 68.5 |
| 23:18:00 | lini | [IDC]Dragon: yes, its exactly 25 |
| 23:18:13 | MasterLee | lini: is it that box doesn't or you haven't started the player with the usb cable connected? |
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| 23:18:30 | MasterLee | the AJBM, at least, must have the cable connected on power on |
| 23:19:00 | [IDC]Dragon | I could check in a new version of the video player, which has pause, reverse, wind, step, etc. |
| 23:19:11 | lini | Masskiller: if i plug the USB when rockbox is on, sometimes it doesn't switch to USB, so i have to unplug and plug again |
| 23:20:12 | lini | [IDC]Dragon if i understand correctly now you're just stuffing the lcd with data and it plays as fast as it can |
| 23:20:25 | [IDC]Dragon | yes |
| 23:20:40 | lini | so there is no way to control how many frames get displayed in reality |
| 23:21:12 | [IDC]Dragon | there will be, I'm planning on regulating the speed |
| 23:21:38 | [IDC]Dragon | but I can't start an mp3 from a plugin |
| 23:21:44 | lini | great. so you will cap the number of fps |
| 23:22:02 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, the question is just to which value |
| 23:22:18 | [IDC]Dragon | we need 70 fps or so for best effect |
| 23:22:20 | lini | is it different for fmr and jbr? |
| 23:22:33 | [IDC]Dragon | and we're a bit slow to achieve that already |
| 23:22:39 | [IDC]Dragon | no |
| 23:22:53 | [IDC]Dragon | tepends on temperature, etc. |
| 23:22:56 | [IDC]Dragon | depends |
| 23:23:17 | [IDC]Dragon | the LCD has a free running RC oscillator |
| 23:23:34 | lini | i see |
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| 23:29:53 | [IDC]Dragon | and white pixels are a bit faster to display |
| 23:33:22 | Masskiller | is there like |
| 23:33:28 | Masskiller | an easy way to get the damn batteries out |
| 23:33:28 | Masskiller | lol |
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| 23:37:45 | Masskiller | dialup-67.31.192.179.Dial1.Tampa1.Level3.net |
| 23:37:47 | Masskiller | :| |
| 23:37:50 | Masskiller | level3 :| |
| 23:38:05 | Sebulba02 | What of it? |
| 23:38:09 | Masskiller | dunno |
| 23:38:10 | Masskiller | lol |
| 23:38:28 | Masskiller | i have a friend that works at level3 ;o |
| 23:38:46 | Sebulba02 | Cool. |
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| 23:39:23 | Masskiller | is there an easy way to get the damn batteries out? lol ;\ |
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| 23:39:56 | Sebulba02 | Follow the instructions? :) |
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| 23:40:14 | Masskiller | there's instructions on that? |
| 23:40:14 | Masskiller | lol |
| 23:40:23 | Masskiller | *looks for manual* |
| 23:40:44 | Sebulba02 | There were with mine, I believe. |
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