#rockbox 2003-12-24

Previous day | Jump to hour: 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 | Next day

Seconds: Show Hide | Joins: Show Hide | View raw
Font: Serif Sans-Serif Monospace | Size: Small Medium Large

Click in the nick column to highlight everything a person has said.
The Logo icon identifies that the person is a core developer (has commit access).

Notice: Only Gecko based browsers prior to FF4 support the multipart/mixed "server push" method used by this log reader to auto-update. Since you do not appear to use such a browser, this page will simply show the current log, and not automatically update.

#rockbox log for 2003-12-24

00:00:24	Guest1	laurent: you said you just need the approptiate mass storage driver if you have usb host ability?
00:00:40	Sebulba02	so it maps in win2k, but not linux meshuga?
00:00:58	meshuga	Sebulba02 : exactly
00:01:13	Laurent_	ah fuckers
00:01:19	meshuga	i have isd200(even though it doesnt need it) and ECHI(usb2.0) support both in my kernel
00:01:21	Laurent_	they protected the machine against desassembly
00:01:28	Sebulba02	I saw you had usb_storage, how about vfat?
00:01:37	meshuga	i'm almost positive
00:01:48	Sebulba02	check to make sure
00:01:49	Laurent_	the plastic is melted around three fragile pins
00:01:54	meshuga	root@altered:/usr/src/linux# mount
00:01:54	meshuga	devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
00:01:54	meshuga	proc on /proc type proc (rw)
00:01:54	meshuga	usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
00:01:55	Laurent_	and I broke them
00:01:59	meshuga	/dev/hdb1 on /mnt/tmp type vfat (rw)
00:02:01	meshuga	yup
00:02:06	meshuga	my 60gig is mounted vfat
00:02:10	Sebulba02	hmm
00:02:30		Join evil_kat [0] (jirc@host-66-81-138-211.rev.o1.com)
00:02:40		Part evil_kat
00:03:21	meshuga	i can give my syslog to anyone
00:03:49	Sebulba02	that might help, or just the necessary portions
00:04:03	meshuga	yea thats what i mean
00:04:42	Sebulba02	okay
00:06:03	meshuga	[cdcc] 1 file offered- /ctcp meshuga cdcc send #x for pack #x
00:06:03	meshuga	[cdcc] dcc block size: 2048, slots open: 4/ 5, dcc queue: 10/10
00:06:03	meshuga	% #1 ( 14.06kb: 0 gets) my dmesg, wtf does the archo hate
00:06:09	meshuga	if anyone else wants to take a gender
00:06:11	meshuga	gander
00:06:24		Join Dogger [0] (~jimmy@cpc1-colc1-5-0-cust124.colc.cable.ntl.com)
00:06:32	Dogger	hey.... newbie question
00:06:38	Dogger	what does MAS stand for?
00:06:51	Dogger	I understand its the mp3 decoder chip is that right?
00:08:10		Quit kurzhaarrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
00:08:37		Nick edx{harald} is now known as edxmas (edx@pD9EABA32.dip.t-dialin.net)
00:08:38		Quit Guest1 ("Leaving")
00:10:52	Sebulba02	meshuga: what happens when you try to mount it?
00:11:09	meshuga	exactly whats at the end of at
00:12:14	Sebulba02	its just a warning though..
00:12:55	Sebulba02	it looks like it detects it fine
00:15:11	meshuga	no
00:15:36	meshuga	root@altered:/home/keith# cat /proc/bus/usb
00:15:36	meshuga	cat: /proc/bus/usb: Invalid argument
00:17:27	Sebulba02	the same happens with mine
00:17:45		Quit methangas (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- irc client ownage!")
00:20:00	Sebulba02	you tried to mount /dev/sda1 , right? (just to be sure)
00:20:24		Nick Infornogr4phy is now known as Tamagotchi (~UPP@c-24-130-133-225.we.client2.attbi.com)
00:23:49		Join DJBaz [0] (~baz@modem-982.python.dialup.pol.co.uk)
00:33:11		Join midknight2k3 [0] (zakk@AC9EE044.ipt.aol.com)
00:33:18	midknight2k3	hello all
00:34:39	Sebulba02	oh god
00:34:47	midknight2k3	shut. up.
00:35:13	Sebulba02	what makes you think I was talking to you?
00:35:32	Laurent_	peace on earth :)
00:35:38	Sebulba02	heh
00:35:39	midknight2k3	i have many reasons :D
00:36:40	Sebulba02	pff, you assume too much
00:37:24	Laurent_	so let's see if I fucked up my gmini
00:37:32	Sebulba02	heh
00:37:50	midknight2k3	my guess?
00:38:00	midknight2k3	is that Laurent_ .. hrm
00:38:18	midknight2k3	Laurent_ went WWWWAY farther than simply fucked up
00:41:32	Laurent_	ok it still runs
00:41:41	Laurent_	those pins have probably not much use
00:41:48	midknight2k3	i bet on boot it goes "ALERT! Was previously taken apart."
00:41:52	Laurent_	midknight2k3: huh ?
00:41:57	midknight2k3	they have some little sensors i bet
00:42:03	midknight2k3	that can tell when youve taken it apart
00:42:09	midknight2k3	and it triggers something in the firmware
00:42:18		Quit Dogger ("Client Exiting")
00:42:21	Laurent_	ah ok I see what you mean
00:42:23	midknight2k3	that doesnt allow you to use it or allows arcyhos to see if youve opened it
00:43:09	Laurent_	no, I wrongly assumed that they had encased some pins within the protecting plastic/rubber: it's a bad manipulation I did which broke the pins
00:43:35	midknight2k3	shhhy
00:43:40	midknight2k3	lol
00:43:44	midknight2k3	broke the pins?
00:44:31	Laurent_	yup, three pins within a jumper, when removing the plastic, it pulled the jumper and bent the pins
00:44:40	midknight2k3	lol
00:44:45	midknight2k3	say bye bye to the gimini
00:44:48	Laurent_	but the unit is still functionning
00:45:07	Laurent_	even then, I would have fixed it
00:45:31	Laurent_	it's quite minor
00:45:41	midknight2k3	sure. SURE.
00:45:56	Laurent_	i'm an optimist
00:46:08	Laurent_	given the price I have to ;)
00:46:32	midknight2k3	asdf
00:46:39	Laurent_	which means ?
00:46:48		Quit Arnaud (Remote closed the connection)
00:46:54		Join tRICKZ42 [0] (nOR@pool-68-237-74-93.ny325.east.verizon.net)
00:46:54		Quit tRICKZ42 (Client Quit)
00:47:08		Join Kontakt501 [0] (nOR@pool-68-237-74-93.ny325.east.verizon.net)
00:47:09	Laurent_	ask someone deviously fucking ?
00:47:14	Kontakt501	hi all
00:47:19	Kontakt501	i got a question
00:47:27	Laurent_	hi
00:47:36	Kontakt501	the time on my fmrecorder doesnt show anymore
00:47:51	Kontakt501	used to show at the upper right hand corner
00:48:36	midknight2k3	doesnt any more?
00:48:43	midknight2k3	hm
00:49:00	Kontakt501	nop
00:49:02	Kontakt501	hey midnight
00:49:18	midknight2k3	hey
00:49:21	midknight2k3	i remember you
00:49:31	Kontakt501	hows things
00:49:50	Kontakt501	ya its weird
00:50:24	midknight2k3	good
00:50:41	Laurent_	now to the pics
00:50:46	Kontakt501	any ideas on my problem?
00:50:56	midknight2k3	not really
00:51:03	midknight2k3	put up the pics yay
00:51:47	Kontakt501	yo mid could u send me the wps u sent a while back?
00:51:56	Kontakt501	or 1 you use
00:52:27	midknight2k3	hrm
00:56:31	Laurent_	ok, copied from cf to archos, now archos to linux
01:00
01:00:30		Quit Kontakt501 ()
01:07:00	midknight2k3	yay
01:07:02		Nick bc\|bbl is now known as Bluechip (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com)
01:07:02	DBUG	Enqueued KICK Bluechip
01:07:44	midknight2k3	Bluechip
01:07:51	Bluechip	uh huh?
01:07:51	Laurent_	ok transfering to web site
01:08:22	midknight2k3	hi Bluechip
01:09:18	midknight2k3	can you hear me
01:09:20	midknight2k3	?
01:09:21	midknight2k3	anyone
01:09:40	Bluechip	yes
01:09:46	midknight2k3	phew
01:23:17		Join trakk [0] (jirc@ACBE93CC.ipt.aol.com)
01:23:46	trakk	Hi
01:24:40		Quit mecraw__ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)")
01:25:01	midknight2k3	tracky
01:25:34	midknight2k3	<track> what is it with you and the pissypoxypissy sdf ddf?
01:25:44	midknight2k3	17.31.32 # <track> yea a pissy poxy pissy crossfader ...
01:25:49	trakk	exactly
01:25:50	midknight2k3	01.08.37 # <track> god its only a pissy poxy pissy iceberg ...
01:25:56	midknight2k3	overclock the Archo's pissy poxy pissy 12Mhz processor!
01:26:07	midknight2k3	<track> yea a pissy poxy pissy crossfader. big deal
01:26:11	midknight2k3	<track> theres more to life than a crossfader
01:26:19	trakk	ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]
01:26:31	midknight2k3	<track> but at least i never said pissypoxypissy mikeholden
01:26:40	trakk	ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
01:26:52	Laurent_	here it goes
01:26:56	Laurent_	http://lgiroud.chez.tiscali.fr/photos/index.html
01:27:07	midknight2k3	look!
01:27:09	midknight2k3	http://www.google.com/search?q=%22pissy+poxy%22&btnG=Google+Search&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&safe=off
01:27:12	midknight2k3	click that track
01:27:14	midknight2k3	and look
01:27:37	trakk	ok
01:27:41	Laurent_	note that they are big (2700x1500)
01:27:42	midknight2k3	lmao
01:27:46	midknight2k3	one 2 results
01:27:50		Quit DJBaz ("Leaving")
01:27:54	midknight2k3	i sorta noticed Laurent_
01:27:57	midknight2k3	lol
01:28:10	midknight2k3	ill be AFK for a bit
01:28:14	midknight2k3	back in a few
01:28:16	trakk	gppd
01:28:19	trakk	good
01:28:20	Laurent_	I hope no one's on a modem ?
01:28:26	midknight2k3	PISSYPOXYPISSY
01:28:32	midknight2k3	i aim
01:28:36	midknight2k3	am
01:28:44	midknight2k3	that gmini looks NICE
01:28:53	midknight2k3	take some UI pics
01:29:10	Laurent_	oh
01:29:23	trakk	dont' we know it!
01:29:25	Laurent_	that'll be tomorrow ;)
01:30:05	Laurent_	i'll try to have the last gphoto2 version tomorrow so I can transfer photos straight from my camera to linux without using the archos
01:30:15	Laurent_	for now it's painfully slow to do it
01:32:38	midknight2k3	jmk
01:33:59	midknight2k3	sdd
01:34:16	Laurent_	it's true that there are no pictures of the ui on the net, only old marketing ones
01:35:03	Laurent_	can you read quicktime movies ?
01:35:17	earHertz	If the UI was written by Archos, I'm sure it sucks
01:35:40	Laurent_	it's quite practical, there are some bugs but they are minor
01:35:53	earHertz	is it slow?
01:35:58	Laurent_	no
01:36:15	Ctcp	Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
01:36:15	*	earHertz is surprised
01:36:19	Laurent_	disk access is not instantaneous but not slow
01:36:39	trakk	lol
01:36:41	Bluechip	prolly needs to spin up each tim
01:36:43	Bluechip	e
01:36:47	midknight2k3	dur dum dee
01:37:18	Laurent_	nope, not each time
01:37:22	Laurent_	some times ;)
01:37:43	Bluechip	access still hesitates when already spun up?
01:37:46	Laurent_	it seems to buffer a bit of the arborescence
01:37:55	Laurent_	hum, not sure what you mean
01:38:12	Bluechip	if disk spinning, is there the same delay before data arrives
01:38:52	Laurent_	no, not at all
01:39:02	trakk	tea maker
01:39:10	Laurent_	I'm testing it and it goes fluentely throughout folders without a glitch
01:39:26	Laurent_	smoothly, not fluently sorry
01:39:46	earHertz	don't worry, we're neither fluent nor smooth in French
01:39:53	Laurent_	lol
01:40:23	midknight2k3	Laurent_: i hope you can put up pics! :D
01:40:42	Laurent_	midknight2k3: i'll be doing this in about 8/9 hours ;)
01:40:50	midknight2k3	YAY
01:40:53	Laurent_	for now I must sleep :)
01:40:57	midknight2k3	i want to see how the interface is
01:40:59	midknight2k3	good night!
01:41:07	earHertz	c'est se bon
01:41:28	Bluechip	such is candy?
01:41:36	earHertz	such is
01:41:40	midknight2k3	fdas
01:41:43	midknight2k3	dasf
01:41:48	Laurent_	I'll put a more complete web page about desassembly and the UI plus some email on the list perhaps
01:41:58	earHertz	nice
01:42:31	Laurent_	earHertz: "c'est bon" is not used to say "good !", we use "c'est cool!" instead ;)
01:42:52	earHertz	ok
01:43:17	Laurent_	"c'est bon" means "it tastes good" or "i'm ok for it" depending on context. french is quite complicated :)
01:43:28	earHertz	oui
01:43:43	Laurent_	so see you tomorrow
01:43:51	earHertz	not me
01:43:52	midknight2k3	ok bye
01:43:55	midknight2k3	nice pix
01:43:57	earHertz	I'm on the road tomorrow
01:44:01		Join thedude02 [0] (~thefirstd@pm660-14.dialip.mich.net)
01:44:08		Quit Laurent_ ("thanks")
01:44:29		Quit thedude02 (Client Quit)
01:45:06		Join thedude02 [0] (~thefirstd@pm660-14.dialip.mich.net)
01:48:59	thedude02	I;m leaving, bye
01:49:00		Part thedude02
01:57:17	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
02:00
02:11:03		Quit cjnr11 ()
02:11:05		Quit trakk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
02:13:52		Quit Imagine ("BitchX: anything else would be uncivilized")
02:16:56	Bluechip	at last - all win sims working except (1) player display & (2) menu-based directory features :)
02:18:23	midknight2k3	why does it matter
02:24:35	midknight2k3	back in a few
02:25:44		Nick Bluechip is now known as bc\|bbl (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com)
02:25:44	DBUG	Enqueued KICK bc\|bbl
02:54:13		Quit c0utta (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
03:00
03:08:55	midknight2k3	asdf
03:09:22	Sebulba02	midknight2k3&
03:11:48		Quit bc\|bbl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
03:20:25		Quit edxmas ()
03:21:51	midknight2k3	asdf
03:44:44		Join Bluechip [0] (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com)
03:46:39	midknight2k3	hi
03:46:41	midknight2k3	blyecgiba
03:46:45	midknight2k3	Bluechip*
03:46:55	Bluechip	hi
03:57:19	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
04:00
04:01:27		Join Sebulba01 [0] (~Sebulba02@dialup-67.31.192.234.Dial1.Tampa1.Level3.net)
04:02:06	Bluechip	hey seb, gotta share my good news - phase 1 of the win32sim is complete :)
04:02:15	midknight2k3	SURE
04:02:19	midknight2k3	DONT SHARE WITH ME
04:02:22	midknight2k3	BUT SHARE WITH SEB
04:02:24	Bluechip	told you earlier
04:02:25	midknight2k3	i feel so left out.
04:02:33	midknight2k3	wel you didnt smile
04:02:53	Bluechip	sorry
04:02:53	Bluechip	−−> :D
04:02:53	Bluechip	a super big smile as an apology
04:03:39	midknight2k3	apology accepted
04:03:43	midknight2k3	lol
04:03:49	midknight2k3	but its not the same
04:03:50		Join Stevenm [0] (~StevenM@pcp04424903pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net)
04:03:53	Stevenm	hey guys
04:03:57	midknight2k3	hey
04:04:03	Bluechip	eve'n steven
04:04:17	Stevenm	Is it safe to delete the AJBREC file from the hard drive after I flashed?
04:04:33	Bluechip	yes
04:04:43	Bluechip	in fact, not a bad idea :)
04:04:52	Sebulba01	Cool.
04:05:02	Sebulba01	gah
04:05:05	Stevenm	So I can just delete it and then hold down F1 to boot into the original Os?
04:05:18		Quit Sebulba02 (Nick collision from services.)
04:05:21	midknight2k3	right
04:05:23		Nick Sebulba01 is now known as Sebulba02 (~Sebulba02@dialup-67.31.192.234.Dial1.Tampa1.Level3.net)
04:05:30	Bluechip	the rom is big enough for two firmwares :)
04:05:35	Bluechip	rom==chip
04:05:36	Sebulba02	hate it when that happens
04:05:49	Stevenm	The only reason I am asking is that I want to be able to create/delete directories w/o having to mount the drive
04:06:15	Bluechip	can you not do that in rockbox?
04:06:45	Stevenm	Apparently not.. The doc says that it will not delete directories, and I haven't been able to create one
04:07:00	midknight2k3	you cant delete or create dirs, no
04:07:04	Bluechip	hmm, submit a patch request - don't see why not!?
04:07:17	midknight2k3	bluechip could code it
04:07:17	Bluechip	all the routines are there
04:07:23	midknight2k3	archos fw can do it
04:07:27	midknight2k3	its just not been done yet
04:07:48	Bluechip	weird
04:08:01	Stevenm	Do you guys plan on implementing it sometime, or is this one of those things that I should just use the archos fw for?
04:08:10	midknight2k3	will be done i bet
04:08:37	Stevenm	Nice
04:09:01	Stevenm	So the AJBREC file is not required AT ALL if you flash ? Nothing will die?
04:09:06	midknight2k3	No.
04:09:09	midknight2k3	not at all
04:09:10	midknight2k3	delete it
04:09:16	Stevenm	Done.
04:09:36	Stevenm	Still works! :-)
04:09:37	Stevenm	thanks
04:09:47	Bluechip	welcome
04:10:10	Stevenm	now to take advantage of this Chip8 thing...
04:10:19	Bluechip	Othelo is much better
04:10:20	Bluechip	lol
04:10:36	Stevenm	yes.. it's just that people have been talking to me.
04:10:46	Stevenm	They say all taht iPod has that Rockbox doesn't is Breakout
04:10:57	Stevenm	and that is about to change
04:11:00	Bluechip	bloomin' fix that sometime
04:11:29	Stevenm	I'll get a ch8 version and put it on there
04:11:47	midknight2k3	chip8 breakout is here
04:11:58	midknight2k3	bluechip: you should code a better breakout
04:12:29	Stevenm	Nice, thanks.
04:12:39	Bluechip	welcome
04:12:42	Stevenm	I found awhole zipfile of 'em.. was just about to extract
04:12:59	Bluechip	mk: yeah when I finsih everything else - lol
04:13:04	Stevenm	Bluechip: approx. how hard is it to code for this thing?
04:13:14	Bluechip	rockbox?
04:13:16	Stevenm	yea
04:13:16	Bluechip	or ch8?
04:13:22	Stevenm	rockbox plug-ins
04:13:24	Bluechip	very
04:13:33	Bluechip	so long as you know C
04:13:44	Stevenm	That's not a problem
04:13:50	Bluechip	wanna dev kit?
04:13:51	Bluechip	lol
04:13:59	Stevenm	Sure..
04:14:07	Bluechip	what os you got?
04:14:12	Stevenm	Linux
04:14:26	Stevenm	best. os. ever.
04:14:30	Bluechip	oh -just download gcc then
04:14:38	Stevenm	Have it
04:14:45	Bluechip	and grab a source tarball from rockbox.haxx.se
04:14:50	Bluechip	done
04:14:53	Stevenm	I assume the site has some kind of special compiler?
04:15:05	Bluechip	oh yeah, woops
04:15:19	Stevenm	Something about a cross-compiler..
04:15:29	Bluechip	erm, sure there must be linux sh-1 tools on the web, there is a windoze devkit there
04:15:46	Bluechip	if not grab the source and compile em up :)
04:16:22	Stevenm	Are there some kind of rockbox-specific includes for plug-ins or whatnot? Functions to read keys? Write to LCD? etc
04:16:39	Stevenm	or is it all bit-bashing and writing to the HW by hand?
04:16:45	Bluechip	it's all there although the API docs are in desperate need of updating
04:16:51	earHertz	you include plugin.h and all access to trockbox is via a pointer to a struct
04:17:03	Bluechip	drawline() getkey() etc.
04:17:03	earHertz	teh struct's members are pointers to function
04:17:38	Bluechip	http://rockbox.haxx.se/cross-gcc.html
04:17:55	Stevenm	What about starting a plug-in? void main()? void main(rockbox*) ?
04:18:09	Bluechip	take a look at the hello-world plugin :)
04:18:27	Stevenm	Ah, good idea
04:18:30	earHertz	there's an analogous function for plugins
04:18:49	earHertz	that function ecieves the pointr to the struct as an argument
04:19:11	Stevenm	Ahh gotcha
04:31:13		Join arspy87 [0] (~arspy87@h00062598fa3b.ne.client2.attbi.com)
04:31:20	arspy87	hey
04:31:57	Stevenm	hello
04:32:59		Part arspy87
04:33:09	Bluechip	weird man
04:33:25	midknight2k3	lmao
04:33:52		Join arspy87 [0] (~arspy87@h00062598fa3b.ne.client2.attbi.com)
04:33:55	arspy87	back
04:34:01	Bluechip	lol
04:34:31	Sebulba02	Err
04:34:50	midknight2k3	calm down ppl
04:35:15	Sebulba02	Sebulba02&
04:35:51	midknight2k3	cmon cmon
04:37:24	arspy87	so what's up everyone
04:37:51	Bluechip	mi off 2 bed v soon
04:38:07	arspy87	cool
04:38:14	Stevenm	good night
04:38:16	midknight2k3	very cool.
04:38:20	midknight2k3	dont go yert
04:38:25	Bluechip	not just yer
04:38:26	midknight2k3	code breakout first
04:38:40	arspy87	breakout the game?
04:38:45	Bluechip	ar: finished stage 1 of win32sim :)
04:38:53	midknight2k3	no, breakout the... erm... program
04:38:58	midknight2k3	you break out of the program
04:39:07	arspy87	oh
04:39:10	arspy87	quiets self.
04:39:15	midknight2k3	lol jk
04:39:25	arspy87	>_<
04:39:26	midknight2k3	bluechip: is all you do the simulator
04:39:27	Sebulba02	your writing breakout?
04:39:32	midknight2k3	><_><
04:39:39	Bluechip	atm
04:39:49	Sebulba02	Cool.
04:39:51	Bluechip	only been at it 2 days!
04:39:55	arspy87	breakout on a DAP would be cool
04:40:03	midknight2k3	there is on an ipod
04:40:10	midknight2k3	plus we have 8 games officially
04:40:15	midknight2k3	and the chip8 emulator
04:40:18	midknight2k3	which SUCKS but...
04:40:23	Sebulba02	2 days? You doing a complex physics model or something?
04:40:32	Bluechip	lol
04:40:49	Bluechip	half of which was spent trying to get diff to work!
04:40:55	Sebulba02	block types maybe?
04:40:55	Sebulba02	lol
04:41:13	Stevenm	OOo that'd be sweet
04:41:21	Stevenm	certainly better than iPod
04:41:22	Bluechip	trying to follow the menu code now to see why plufgins just plain fail
04:41:35	Sebulba02	ah
04:41:38	Stevenm	but show me one ipod that can play video and I will EAT it
04:41:50	Sebulba02	I just figured it was because they didn't meet the current API
04:41:52	arspy87	the iPod is.... bad.
04:41:59	Bluechip	no dude, that's BIG mac - they're very different
04:42:02	Stevenm	http://www.ipodsdirtysecret.com
04:42:10	arspy87	who uses a 850mA battery, really.
04:42:18	arspy87	mAh*
04:42:21	Stevenm	don't you mean BIG APPLE? :)
04:42:32	Bluechip	seb: the menu item seems to totally fail
04:42:39	Sebulba02	oh
04:42:47	Sebulba02	so you can't even get to the plugins?
04:42:51	Bluechip	no
04:42:53	Bluechip	not at all
04:42:59	Sebulba02	weird
04:43:16	Bluechip	nor FIrmware, or Languages, or Fonts ...see the pattern?
04:43:22	arspy87	oh, btw, i saw a book at B&N today called "how to do everything with your ipod"
04:43:24	Sebulba02	heh
04:43:38	arspy87	and there was a big section titled "What makes your iPod unhappy"
04:43:42	Sebulba02	i dug through the code for about an hour and gave up, I couldn't figure out wtf anything came from
04:44:03	Sebulba02	grep , trace, grep, trace, got me going in loops
04:44:07	Bluechip	all ptr->fn
04:44:17	Bluechip	it's quite nice once you're in
04:44:25	Sebulba02	heh
04:44:28	Stevenm	Hey guys.. linux sim prog won't run plugins- error: archos/.rockbox/rocks/cube.rock: invalid ELF header
04:44:33	Bluechip	but a distinct lack of procedure headers
04:44:33	Stevenm	then it segfaults
04:44:35	Sebulba02	lol
04:44:43	Bluechip	lol
04:44:52	Sebulba02	at least he got to the menu
04:45:10	Bluechip	mk, you reckon the x11 sim works??
04:45:21	Bluechip	ciggie & bed
04:45:29	Bluechip	oh no
04:45:34	Bluechip	Fag & Bed
04:45:34	Bluechip	lol
04:45:39	Bluechip	upset the yanks ;)
04:45:56	Sebulba02	heh
04:46:20	Bluechip	"can I bum a fag" will get you a strange look EVERY time :)
04:46:31	Stevenm	Except if you're in England
04:46:36	Bluechip	indded
04:46:38	Bluechip	as i am
04:46:46	arspy87	yeah i just gave a strange look to that blue ;)
04:46:47	Stevenm	Bluechip: you in England?
04:46:52	Bluechip	where-r-u?
04:46:57	Bluechip	yep
04:47:03	Stevenm	Born in mother russia, now in usa
04:47:08	Stevenm	cool
04:47:18	Bluechip	tops
04:47:20	Bluechip	spy?
04:47:22	Bluechip	lol
04:47:25	Sebulba02	lol
04:47:31	Bluechip	...just ignore my humour
04:47:54	Stevenm	I was thinking about hacking away at the russian lang file at some point, translate it all the way / whatever
04:48:01	Stevenm	but I guess one thing at a time
04:48:19	Sebulba02	god, its not even 11p and I feel like passing out
04:48:23	Bluechip	can be your first thing to do one you;re compiling
04:48:48	arspy87	seb: yeah it should really be midnight right now
04:49:00	Sebulba02	heh
04:49:09	Sebulba02	been a long freaking day
04:49:15	earHertz	In Soviet Russia, lang file hacks /you/.
04:49:29	Stevenm	haha
04:49:38	arspy87	i made teh stupid mistake of actually going to a mall about 4 hours ago
04:50:10	Sebulba02	ouch
04:50:16	Sebulba02	baaaad idea
04:50:34	Sebulba02	where are you at?
04:50:52	arspy87	i decided to retreat to the bookstore and read more about what makes the ipod unahppy. it was quite amusing
04:51:15	arspy87	i'm in the freezing cold northeast
04:51:40	Sebulba02	ah, I'm in the hotter than hadies southeast
04:51:57	Sebulba02	what makes an ipod unhappy?
04:52:07	Bluechip	rockbox
04:52:12	midknight2k3	LOL
04:52:23	arspy87	lets see if i remember.... one of them was "interrupting it at the wrong time"
04:52:40	Sebulba02	another one.. 'its an apple product'
04:52:42	arspy87	which was like, turning it off while playing a song or something like that, and interrupting file transfers
04:53:05	Sebulba02	that'll piss any device off
04:53:11	arspy87	i think the ipod also is unhappy when smart people use it because they realize that it's really bad ;)
04:53:25	arspy87	i thought the author was funny
04:53:25	Sebulba02	heh
04:53:38	Stevenm	It's one of them Devicisus Technophobius devices
04:53:40	arspy87	he was tlaking about how good the abttery life was
04:54:02	arspy87	OH my favorite:
04:54:35	arspy87	"your batt will probably last 3 years if you treat it well. if you dont charge as much then youll get more, however your HD will probably be dead by then anyway."
04:54:57	Sebulba02	heh
04:54:58	Bluechip	lol: apps/tree.c:1376 add_dir()
04:55:09	midknight2k3	bc:?
04:55:19	Bluechip	add dir is written
04:55:23	midknight2k3	IT IS?!
04:55:28	Sebulba02	theres a function to make dirs, its just not used
04:55:29	midknight2k3	well why didnt you say so
04:55:30	midknight2k3	patch that
04:55:33	midknight2k3	MAKE IT
04:55:35	midknight2k3	or let me make it
04:55:38	midknight2k3	so i can get more credit
04:55:42	arspy87	heh
04:55:42	Bluechip	do it
04:55:46	midknight2k3	no you can
04:55:56	Bluechip	lazy b
04:56:15	Stevenm	ad_dir()? Sweet!!
04:56:26	midknight2k3	add_dir that is
04:56:27	Bluechip	just stumbled on it
04:56:35	midknight2k3	blue: i could try
04:56:40	midknight2k3	but the lazy part was uncalled for
04:57:00	Bluechip	slang phrase, no dictionary terms intended
04:57:28	Bluechip	anyway - that's my lot - l8rz guys
04:57:46	Sebulba02	'night
04:57:55	midknight2k3	night
04:58:07	arspy87	'night
04:58:10		Quit Bluechip ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)")
04:58:11	Stevenm	nitght
04:58:17	midknight2k3	lol
05:00
05:12:26		Join blahblahl [0] (~blab@cs662530-207.houston.rr.com)
05:12:30	blahblahl	waddup anyone on?
05:12:38	midknight2k3	hey
05:12:39	midknight2k3	i am
05:13:08	blahblahl	ya have a archos?
05:13:37	midknight2k3	i do
05:13:38	midknight2k3	yes
05:13:42	blahblahl	i am trying to decide weather to get an archos or not
05:13:55	blahblahl	i run every day... can it handle being strapped to an arm?
05:13:55	Sebulba02	no, we all just sit here because it makes use cool :)
05:14:09	blahblahl	well it DOES make ya look cool
05:14:12	blahblahl	:)
05:14:14	Sebulba02	us*, crap.. I'm going to sleep
05:14:19	midknight2k3	night seb
05:14:28	midknight2k3	:D
05:14:29	Sebulba02	'night
05:14:31	blahblahl	so anyone?
05:14:34	blahblahl	runnign?
05:14:37	midknight2k3	hmm
05:14:41	Sebulba02	& its a big large to have strapped to you
05:14:42	midknight2k3	belt'd be better
05:14:51	midknight2k3	arm's be sorta bulky
05:14:56	blahblahl	but can it handle the shock?
05:15:09	midknight2k3	on the arm?
05:15:09	Stevenm	the carrying case has a belt loop specifically for this purpose
05:15:14	midknight2k3	yes
05:15:18	midknight2k3	it should be ok on belt
05:15:21	midknight2k3	on arm, probably not
05:15:30	blahblahl	imean i read reviews... saying dont use it for running
05:15:46	midknight2k3	75% due to bulkiness i bet
05:15:50	blahblahl	i have a flash one right now.... rio cali 256...
05:16:05	midknight2k3	OH
05:16:06	blahblahl	its great, ut i dunno....
05:16:08	midknight2k3	BROTHER!
05:16:09	Sebulba02	rio, ugh
05:16:14	midknight2k3	I HAVE ONE TOO
05:16:17	midknight2k3	Chiba 256
05:16:21	midknight2k3	rio rocks seb
05:16:26	arspy87	i have a karma
05:16:27	blahblahl	its ok
05:16:27	Sebulba02	rio sucks ass
05:16:38	blahblahl	i just figure i probably need both right...
05:16:46	Sebulba02	anyways, I was going to sleep
05:16:53	blahblahl	archos for long trips and rio for running
05:17:25	midknight2k3	shutup
05:17:32	midknight2k3	right, blahblahl
05:17:34	blahblahl	?
05:17:43	midknight2k3	shutup directed at Sebulba02
05:17:49	blahblahl	aaah
05:18:04	blahblahl	i just wish i could do both.... with one
05:18:14	midknight2k3	yeah
05:18:25	midknight2k3	archos could handle belt
05:18:28	midknight2k3	arm is highly doubted
05:18:42	midknight2k3	use the cali for your running trips and archos elsewhere :D
05:18:58	blahblahl	yeah... i am just not sure weather i should keep both
05:19:29	midknight2k3	?
05:19:43	midknight2k3	keep the cali - new features coming up
05:20:04	blahblahl	?
05:20:08	midknight2k3	id like to take this moment to point you at http://www.rioworld.org
05:20:09	blahblahl	you mean firmware?
05:20:21	midknight2k3	yes
05:20:35	blahblahl	oh really
05:20:41	midknight2k3	really.
05:20:45	midknight2k3	rioworld.org
05:20:49	blahblahl	i am there
05:21:03	midknight2k3	forum
05:21:36	blahblahl	hmm.. wonder if i can write code for it
05:21:38	midknight2k3	RioWorld Users UNITE!
05:21:43	midknight2k3	for archos?
05:21:50	Ctcp	Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
05:21:50	*	midknight2k3 unites
05:21:50	blahblahl	no for rio
05:21:52	midknight2k3	cmon as
05:21:57	midknight2k3	hard
05:21:59	midknight2k3	encrypted
05:22:01	blahblahl	really?
05:22:05	midknight2k3	yes
05:22:05	blahblahl	no compiler?
05:22:07	midknight2k3	sadly
05:22:09	midknight2k3	no no
05:22:12	blahblahl	assembly?
05:22:15	midknight2k3	rockbox is for archos
05:22:20	midknight2k3	rio is closed source
05:22:33	midknight2k3	ARSPY87!
05:22:37	midknight2k3	unite with me
05:22:38	blahblahl	but someone is going to write it?
05:22:39	*	midknight2k3 unites
05:22:44	midknight2k3	doubt it
05:22:57	blahblahl	so who is going to release the new firmware?
05:23:07	midknight2k3	ohh
05:23:09	midknight2k3	Rio itself
05:23:27	blahblahl	aaah
05:23:45	arspy87	yes midk
05:23:48	blahblahl	the one thing i dont like is that you cant access the cali as a drive
05:23:57	*	midknight2k3 unites
05:24:02	*	arspy87 unites
05:25:48	blahblahl	ok
05:25:51	blahblahl	so maybe i will keep both
05:25:54	blahblahl	hah
05:25:56	midknight2k3	yeah
05:26:02	blahblahl	damn i could have bought an ipod
05:26:02	midknight2k3	join rioworld, blahblahl
05:26:14	midknight2k3	youll find help if you truly need it, deep from the heart
05:26:24	midknight2k3	ok let me cut the crap, join.
05:26:26	midknight2k3	:D jk
05:26:31	blahblahl	i joined
05:26:47	midknight2k3	i recruited a new member!
05:26:48	midknight2k3	yay
05:26:51	blahblahl	you mean the /join #rioworld?
05:26:58	blahblahl	or the site
05:27:04	midknight2k3	join #rioworld.org
05:27:05	midknight2k3	im there
05:27:07	midknight2k3	but the site too
05:44:30		Quit blahblahl ()
05:57:23	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
05:58:10		Part arspy87
05:58:21	midknight2k3	df
05:58:21	midknight2k3	.
05:58:58		Join arspy87 [0] (~arspy87@h00062598fa3b.ne.client2.attbi.com)
05:59:13	midknight2k3	20:58:08 \| * arspy87 has left #rockbox
05:59:13	midknight2k3	20:58:18 \| <midknight2k3> df
05:59:13	midknight2k3	20:58:19 \| <midknight2k3> .
05:59:13	DBUG	Enqueued KICK midknight2k3
05:59:13	midknight2k3	20:58:56 \| * arspy87 has joined #rockbox
06:00
06:01:55	arspy87	lol
06:07:56		Quit Stevenm ("Client exiting")
06:21:00	arspy87	well i'm out for the night, ttyl everyone
06:21:10	midknight2k3	night
06:21:29	arspy87	night
06:21:31		Part arspy87
06:25:39	midknight2k3	night all
06:25:44		Quit midknight2k3 ()
06:27:52		Quit AciD ("Segmentation fault (core dumped)")
07:00
07:37:47		Quit earHertz ("ChatZilla 0.9.54b [Mozilla rv:1.5/20031007]")
07:57:25	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
08:00
08:01:43		Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...")
08:22:02		Join Arnaud [0] (~asl@adsl.hlfl.org)
09:00
09:47:01		Join edxmas [0] (edx@pD9EABA32.dip.t-dialin.net)
09:57:28	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
10:00
10:25:56		Join methangas [0] (methangas@0x50c61de4.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
10:54:44		Join cjnr11 [0] (nmpjhb@l01v-54-221.d1.club-internet.fr)
11:00
11:34:11		Join Laurent_ [0] (~laurent@dyn-81-166-18-223.ppp.tiscali.fr)
11:34:18	Laurent_	hi
11:35:56	Laurent_	hi bots ;)
11:37:56		Join adi\|home [0] (~adi\|home@as5300-11.216-194-24-131.nyc.ny.metconnect.net)
11:43:44	webmind	oi
11:44:07	Laurent_	hello
11:47:07		Quit BoBB ("leaving")
11:51:49		Join BoBB [0] (~bob@ip68-106-225-254.ph.ph.cox.net)
11:57:31	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
12:00
12:11:53		Join c0utta [0] (noemail@dialup-24.101.220.203.acc03-waym-adl.comindico.com.au)
12:34:20	Laurent_	a few pictures of the gmini UI : http://lgiroud.chez.tiscali.fr/gmini/ui.html
12:50:46	c0utta	hey laurent ?
12:59:29	Laurent_	yup ?
13:00
13:00:11	c0utta	what is the gmini ?
13:00:24	c0utta	i'm going thru the mailing list trying to build up a picture
13:03:26	Laurent_	wait, i'm looking for the official url
13:03:47	Laurent_	here it is : http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500449.html
13:07:01	Ctcp	Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
13:07:01	*	Sebulba02 yawns
13:09:19	c0utta	aha - trying to challenge the ipod
13:12:36		Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net)
13:16:05	Laurent_	hey funnily enough, the gmini handles very well the unplugging of the hard drive live
13:18:55	Sebulba02	heh
13:23:02		Join Guest [0] (jirc@pD9EC35E8.dip.t-dialin.net)
13:23:24	Guest	hi
13:23:53	Guest	ive got a question to your software
13:24:03	Guest	ive got the archos
13:24:06	Guest	oh :D
13:24:33	Guest	ive got the archos ondio 128 sp... can i use your firmware?
13:24:34	c0utta	ask away
13:25:55	Guest	see above: Ive got the archos ondio 128 SP, is it possible to use your firmware?
13:27:34	c0utta	i've never even heard of the ondio 128 sp
13:27:34	Sebulba02	I don't think so.
13:27:35	Guest	seems not :(
13:27:50	Guest	ah :D
13:27:54	Laurent_	Guest: did you search in the FAQ ?
13:28:20	Guest	FAQ? Well... gg
13:29:16	Laurent_	http://rockbox.haxx.se/, -> FAQ, 63. Will Rockbox work on any of Archos' other units?
13:29:31	Laurent_	(documentation->FAQ)
13:29:59		Join kurzhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@Be58a.b.pppool.de)
13:31:39	kurzhaarrocker	I want to alter the repeat mode from within a plugin. Thus I must access global_settings.repeat. Do you think it would be nicer to make accessor functions instead of publising global_settings in the plugin api?
13:33:14	Sebulba02	probably, yeah
13:33:47	Guest	ok, thx :)
13:33:49	Sebulba02	keep things as encapsulated as possible
13:34:01	Guest	merry christmas :)
13:34:07	Sebulba02	you too
13:34:10	Guest	and cu ;D
13:34:13	kurzhaarrocker	(xmas)
13:34:26	Guest	hach, iss ja gut :D
13:34:34		Quit Guest ("Leaving")
13:34:40	kurzhaarrocker	(my iirc client draws a nice xmas tree when (xmas) occurres...
13:34:56	Sebulba02	heh
13:34:57		Quit glytch (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
13:35:38	kurzhaarrocker	Now I pissed off Guest without any intesion of smartassing just by clicking an icon. :(
13:36:20	Sebulba02	What did he say?
13:36:48	kurzhaarrocker	something like "Allright, allright"
13:37:12	Sebulba02	ah
13:37:37	kurzhaarrocker	and by preposing "hach" he made an annoyed touch to it.
13:38:11	Sebulba02	I see.
13:47:40		Join DJBaz [0] (~baz@modem-2606.orangutan.dialup.pol.co.uk)
13:57:33	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
14:00
14:05:28		Nick edxmas is now known as grinch (edx@pD9EABA32.dip.t-dialin.net)
14:06:03		Nick grinch is now known as edxmas (edx@pD9EABA32.dip.t-dialin.net)
14:10:45		Nick edxmas is now known as edx (edx@pD9EABA32.dip.t-dialin.net)
14:11:17		Nick edx is now known as edxmas (edx@pD9EABA32.dip.t-dialin.net)
14:23:46		Quit kurzhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
14:43:16		Nick edxmas is now known as edx{joggin} (edx@pD9EABA32.dip.t-dialin.net)
15:00
15:11:57		Part Sebulba02
15:17:11		Join Sebulba02 [0] (~Sebulba02@dialup-67.31.192.234.Dial1.Tampa1.Level3.net)
15:34:16		Quit DJBaz ("Leaving")
15:47:13		Join supergamerj [0] (jirc@rouen-1-62-147-101-188.dial.proxad.net)
15:47:38	supergamerj	hi !
15:47:47	Sebulba02	Hello.
15:49:04	supergamerj	Can you help me ? I have a problem with rockbox video format converting.
15:49:47	Sebulba02	I don't know anything about it.
15:50:15	supergamerj	ok
15:50:49	supergamerj	there is a plugin for rockbox than can read videos
15:51:22	Sebulba02	I know.
15:51:48	Sebulba02	I've just never converted one of my own.
15:51:59	supergamerj	ok
15:56:03		Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com)
15:57:37	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
15:57:41	supergamerj	hello
15:58:30	scott666	hey
16:00
16:00:26		Nick edx{joggin} is now known as edx{shower} (edx@pD9EABA32.dip.t-dialin.net)
16:10:41		Nick edx{shower} is now known as edx{code} (edx@pD9EABA32.dip.t-dialin.net)
16:12:46	Laurent_	hey
16:26:05		Nick edx{code} is now known as edx (edx@pD9EABA32.dip.t-dialin.net)
16:26:14		Nick edx is now known as edx{code} (edx@pD9EABA32.dip.t-dialin.net)
16:29:00		Join diddystar5 [0] (Lee@ACD33A16.ipt.aol.com)
16:29:01		Quit Tamagotchi (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
16:46:01		Nick [OFF]BtT is now known as [GoE]BENtheTEN (~quasi@80.238.199.45)
16:51:19		Nick [GoE]BENtheTEN is now known as [OFF]BtT (~quasi@80.238.199.45)
16:52:12	supergamerj	bye
16:52:13		Quit supergamerj ("Leaving")
16:53:28		Join DJBaz [0] (~baz@modem-257.porcupine.dialup.pol.co.uk)
17:00
17:06:27	diddystar5	ummm
17:07:06	Sebulba02	sup
17:07:12	diddystar5	http://rockbox.haxx.se/apps/plugins/vu_meter.c what did jorg do to it?
17:07:36	diddystar5	he added a space every line...
17:08:08	Sebulba02	Err
17:08:12	diddystar5	and the comment he made was: I found several plugins to draw beyond screen boundary
17:08:29	Sebulba02	yeah, I remember that one
17:08:38	diddystar5	what did he do that for?
17:08:38	Sebulba02	Look at a diff
17:08:55	diddystar5	i saw it
17:09:01	diddystar5	whats with it though?
17:09:21	Sebulba02	Apparently he didn't like the fact it was drawing out of bounds of the screen.
17:09:59	diddystar5	errr k but now the file is totaly unreadable
17:10:22		Quit DJBaz ("Leaving")
17:11:07	Sebulba02	hows that possible? He only changed one line.
17:11:28	diddystar5	uhh no he didnt....
17:11:41	diddystar5	see the diff: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/rockbox/apps/plugins/vu_meter.c?r1=text&tr1=1.4&r2=text&tr2=1.3&diff_format=h
17:11:51	diddystar5	he added blank lines everywere
17:12:04	Sebulba02	ah, yeah
17:12:04	diddystar5	but yeah he did change one line
17:12:37	Sebulba02	could be maybe the editor he was using, maybe he didn't realize he put all the extra newlines
17:13:02	diddystar5	humm
17:13:20	diddystar5	do you know what the cr-lf tihngs are?
17:13:50	Sebulba02	Not off the top of my head.
17:14:08	diddystar5	oohh well
17:15:30	diddystar5	i just got my unit fixed yesterday :)
17:15:36	Sebulba02	heh
17:15:45	diddystar5	that doom video is awsome!
17:15:51	Sebulba02	Indeed.
17:15:57	diddystar5	i have watched it like 20 times
17:16:04	Sebulba02	heh
17:16:20	Laurent_	and drained your batteries ;)
17:16:24	diddystar5	and later im going to put all the austin powers movies on it :)
17:16:42	diddystar5	and the simpsons...
17:16:49	diddystar5	and waynes world
17:16:57	diddystar5	and lord of the rings
17:16:57	Sebulba02	be cool if you could wire a larger display to it
17:17:00	diddystar5	and the core
17:17:05	Laurent_	how many pixels does the display bear ? (or pixel equivalent since it's character based)
17:17:07	diddystar5	he
17:17:09	diddystar5	h
17:17:25	diddystar5	err 112x76 ithink
17:17:33	diddystar5	so around 7000
17:17:41	diddystar5	thats alot :)
17:17:51	Laurent_	not bad for a movie
17:17:53	Sebulba02	compared to what?
17:18:17	Laurent_	can rockbox display jpg files on the screen ?
17:18:19	diddystar5	my computer monitor :)
17:18:29	Sebulba02	heh
17:18:35	diddystar5	Laurent_: no, but im sure it could be done now!
17:18:43	diddystar5	with the lcd blit
17:18:51	Laurent_	diddystar5: if video is not a problem, neither are still images ;)
17:19:03	diddystar5	i could try to do it though....
17:19:07	Sebulba02	A colour lcd would be cool.
17:19:16	diddystar5	lol
17:20:08	Laurent_	btw, do you guys read the mailing list ?
17:20:18	scott666	i do
17:20:18	Sebulba02	I'm not subscribed to it, so no.
17:20:32	diddystar5	i do
17:20:34	scott666	are you the Gmini guy laurent?
17:20:46	Laurent_	yes
17:20:58	diddystar5	you should subscribe there is alot of disscusion
17:21:08	Sebulba02	I've thought about it.
17:21:26	Laurent_	I am wondering why there were so few answers to my email regarding the gmini, it seems to scare people
17:21:28	scott666	you should talk to Dogger, he's already figured out the de/scrambling
17:21:40	Laurent_	is Dogger Jimmy Moore ?
17:21:43	diddystar5	thats for the av300's
17:21:49	scott666	its probably because few people _have_ a gmini
17:21:53	diddystar5	gmini is differnt
17:22:03	scott666	i thought he said he got that too
17:22:40	Laurent_	it's also christmas I guess ;) sane people do not read mailing lists on such day ;)
17:22:41	scott666	http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-12/1156.shtml
17:23:10	diddystar5	its christmas eve
17:23:26	Laurent_	yup, all the same to me ;)
17:24:03	diddystar5	i wanna try the rec v2 firmware
17:24:10	diddystar5	(archos firmware)
17:24:24	scott666	its probably the same as the fm firmware?
17:24:25	diddystar5	i gonna dl it, descramble, and scramble for rec
17:24:44	diddystar5	scott666: i heard its much better
17:25:01	scott666	diddystar5: compared to what?
17:25:15	diddystar5	scott666: the normal rec, and the FM
17:25:24	diddystar5	i just wanna see whats differnt
17:25:28	scott666	diddystar5: that wouldn't take very much effort
17:26:00	Laurent_	scott666: do you think there's any luck Dogger will tell me how to descramble ? or is he too affraid of legal action to take the risk ?
17:27:15	scott666	he might tell you privately
17:27:24	diddystar5	wow the v2 ajz is big, 324kb
17:27:28	scott666	or maybe give you hints
17:27:35	scott666	i think it's worth a try anyway
17:28:20	Laurent_	I'll try this tomorrow evening after trying to do it myself this afternoon
17:31:57	diddystar5	had to hack scramle to let it scramble the ajz because it was so big..
17:32:57	scott666	does that mean you cant make a ucl of it/
17:33:41	diddystar5	what tha
17:33:52	diddystar5	i must have dl the worng ajz from archos
17:34:06	diddystar5	it came up with onido fm
17:34:10	diddystar5	and then crashed
17:34:52	diddystar5	and the screen was upside down
17:35:46	diddystar5	nope
17:35:50	diddystar5	it was the right one
17:35:52	diddystar5	weird
17:39:55	diddystar5	either archos site is messed up and i got the wrong ajz, or the rec v2 and the onido have the same firmware
17:42:50	diddystar5	it sayed onido firmware 1.32b
17:43:01	diddystar5	and the v2 is supposed to have 1.40a
17:43:09	Laurent_	strange indeed
17:43:10	diddystar5	so i think archos site must be fucked up
17:45:32	scott666	wouldnt supprise me
17:46:28	Laurent_	I wonder how much is Archos worth as a firm ? Perhaps its users should join forces and buy it ;)
17:46:55	diddystar5	lol
17:47:16	Laurent_	is it an United States firm ?
17:47:23	diddystar5	french
17:47:27	Laurent_	french ?
17:47:28	diddystar5	i think
17:47:44	Laurent_	let me check this
17:48:11	scott666	yeah, they are
17:48:47	scott666	hmmm.... dont try archos.fr
17:48:52	Sebulba02	heh
17:49:08	diddystar5	why? :)
17:49:10	Sebulba02	its US, based in CA.. I believe
17:49:32	diddystar5	i beleive they have a small place in CA
17:49:47	diddystar5	but i think they are based in france
17:49:53	scott666	ARCHOS is a global brand dedicated to bringing cutting-edge technology to market. We have made continuous technological innovation the mainspring of our development.
17:49:53	scott666
17:49:53	scott666	This culture of innovation can be seen in our motto: �Think smaller�, which shows our commitment to manufacturing ever smaller and lighter products.
17:50:00	scott666	heh
17:50:51	diddystar5	lol
17:50:52	Sebulba02	I hate their website
17:50:56	diddystar5	thats a lie
17:51:11	diddystar5	the ipod is like so tiny compared to archoses
17:51:55	Sebulba02	but also twice the cost & made by apple
17:52:04	diddystar5	well eyah...
17:52:26	scott666	http://archos.com/products/mp3_music_product_list.html
17:52:33	scott666	wtf? tey only sell gminis and ondios now??
17:52:34	diddystar5	and i bet the ipods dont have a vu meter :)
17:52:39	scott666	*they
17:52:53	diddystar5	yep
17:53:07	diddystar5	i want a gmini
17:53:13	Sebulba02	such a weird looking device
17:53:34	scott666	"ARCLibrary to organize and synchronize your music"
17:53:46	scott666	does that mean you cant add songs just with explorer?
17:54:04	Sebulba02	beats me
17:54:27	scott666	it plays wmas, so i dont trust it
17:54:27	Laurent_	can't seem to find an archos firm in france making electronics
17:55:01	diddystar5	arghhh now im having problems again with my archos that i just fixed
17:55:49	diddystar5	the little spring in the top-left corner has a bad solder
17:56:06	diddystar5	crap i htought it was completly fixed
17:57:39	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
17:59:38	diddystar5	the rec was not designed well imho
18:00
18:00:39	diddystar5	they should have made it with ONE main board, a bigger lcd... and if it was done right, it would be thinner, and easier to fix (you wouldnt have to unsolder the boards)
18:01:00	Laurent_	ok you're right it's french
18:01:26	Laurent_	could'nt think french could do interesting electronics ;)
18:01:29	diddystar5	www.archos.fr
18:01:29	diddystar5	est en construction...
18:01:32	diddystar5	heh
18:01:38	Laurent_	(i'm french)
18:02:06	diddystar5	ohh
18:02:09	Laurent_	scott666: for arc library, I still don't know what it means ;)
18:02:30	Laurent_	do you have a wma so I can test it if it's played correctly ? (never tried)
18:02:54	scott666	no
18:02:56	scott666	lol
18:03:07	scott666	actually i think i haveo ne
18:03:08	scott666	*one
18:03:42	scott666	but ive never listened to it
18:03:56	diddystar5	J'emploie le mot pour traduire ceci !
18:03:59	Laurent_	well if you can put it on some web site, i'll try it on the archos
18:04:08	scott666	you could just rip something with wmp
18:04:11	diddystar5	heh
18:04:42	Laurent_	diddystar5: "j'emploie le mot" does not mean anything ;)
18:04:48	diddystar5	scott666: got winamp 5 pro?
18:04:55	Laurent_	it means "i use the word" ;)
18:04:56	scott666	yup
18:05:02	diddystar5	Laurent_: lol i used MS word to translate, gues it sucks at it
18:05:25	Laurent_	diddystar5: all translating software suck ;)
18:05:54	diddystar5	"Use the word luke skywalker"
18:06:23	Laurent_	oh, ok so your sentence is not so bad, it would be "j'emploie word pour ...", "j'utilise" would be better though :)
18:06:48	diddystar5	heh
18:07:30	diddystar5	"Dirty deeds done dirt cheap dirty deeds and their done dirt cheap"
18:08:26	scott666	"all you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be"
18:08:47	Laurent_	OOOOhhhhh YeaaaaAAAAAh ;)
18:09:47	diddystar5	"Ive got big balls hes got big balls and shes got big balls but we got the biggest balls of all"
18:09:55	diddystar5	:)
18:10:28	scott666	i hate acdc
18:10:29	scott666	heh
18:10:38	*	diddystar5 loves AC/DC
18:11:22		Join mecraw__ [0] (~mecraw@c-24-9-226-58.client.comcast.net)
18:11:22	diddystar5	hope i dont get kicked for this...
18:11:32	diddystar5	. ________ .
18:11:32	diddystar5	/\ / \ \ \ / \
18:11:32	diddystar5	/ \ / . \ _____ \ ____ \ / . \
18:11:32	DBUG	Enqueued KICK diddystar5
18:11:32	diddystar5	/ \| \ \ / / \___\ / / \| \| \ \| / / \___\
18:11:32	diddystar5	\| \| \ \| \| \| / / \| \| \| \| \| \|
18:11:33	***	Alert Mode level 1
18:11:33	diddystar5	\| \| \ \| \| \| / /_____ \| \| \| \| \| \|
18:11:35	diddystar5	\| \|____\| \| \| \| / / \| \| \| \| \| \|
18:11:37	diddystar5	\| ______ \| \| \| /_____ / \| \| \| \| \| \|
18:11:39	diddystar5	\| \| \| \| \| \| / / \| \| \| \| \| \|
18:11:41	diddystar5	\| \| \| \| \| \| ___ / / \| \| / \| \| \| ___
18:11:45	diddystar5	\| \| \| \| \ \./ / / / \| \|__/ \| \ \./ /
18:11:47	diddystar5	/ \ / \ \ / / / / / \ /
18:11:49	diddystar5	\./ \./ \./ / /________/ \./
18:12:35	Laurent_	question : do you know unix software that translates hexadecimal to decimal ?
18:12:55	diddystar5	Laurent_: nope, but my ti 83+ can
18:13:07	diddystar5	or with a programm i found it can
18:13:10	Laurent_	righ, my casio too :) stupid me
18:13:15	scott666	ms calcuatlor can
18:13:18	scott666	lol
18:13:36	diddystar5	i gotta go
18:13:49	diddystar5	bye scott666 Laurent_
18:13:55	scott666	theres gotta be a good unix version if the default windwos calcuatlor can do it
18:13:56	scott666	l8er
18:14:10		Quit diddystar5 ("Leaving")
18:14:37	Laurent_	scott666: that's indeed the pb with unix ;)
18:15:59	Laurent_	got it
18:16:14	Laurent_	god bless casio if it exists
18:16:23	Laurent_	(god, not casio, I know casio exists)
18:16:36	Sebulba02	yes, there is unix software that translates base to base
18:16:45	scott666	hey, im using a casio too
18:16:46	Sebulba02	bc
18:16:48	scott666	didnt even notice
18:17:12	scott666	except im using a keyboard (the musical variety)
18:21:34	***	Alert Mode OFF
18:23:43		Join midknight2k3 [0] (zakk@ACAC8D15.ipt.aol.com)
18:23:50	Laurent_	it doesn't do hex to decimal translation Ipresume ;)
18:24:12	scott666	it might
18:24:12	midknight2k3	edx{code} lol
18:24:13	scott666	heh
18:24:18	midknight2k3	bye
18:24:21		Quit midknight2k3 (Client Quit)
18:24:37	Laurent_	so young to die :)
18:29:26		Part scott666
18:29:30	Sebulba02	Laurent_: bc does
18:30:33	Laurent_	I see but I don't know it at all though it seems to be installed on my debian
18:30:55	Sebulba02	look in the man page for 'ibase' and 'obase'
18:35:26	Laurent_	don't need it, my casio is helping me right now ;)
18:38:05	Sebulba02	heh
18:58:26		Quit Arnaud ("Fermeture du client")
19:00
19:01:37	Laurent_	does anyone here know midnkight2k3's email address ?
19:02:00	Sebulba02	check the list archive?
19:02:27	Laurent_	or can pass him this URL he wanted yesterday : http://lgiroud.chez.tiscali.fr/gmini/ui.html
19:02:51	Laurent_	I don't know his real name neither ;)
19:03:18	Sebulba02	uh, look at his hostname?
19:03:58	Laurent_	looks like an adsl dynamic IP
19:04:06	Laurent_	helpless unfortunately
19:04:49		Join DJBaz [0] (~baz@modem-3463.leopard.dialup.pol.co.uk)
19:05:44		Quit DJBaz (Client Quit)
19:11:23		Quit edx{code} (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
19:24:11		Join cocoon [0] (connor6133@user-5233.l2.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk)
19:25:31	cocoon	can anybody tell me if it is safe to reformat a jukebox multimedia (AV140) drive (OT I know)
19:26:57	Sebulba02	I've formatted my recorder a few times, nothing happened to it other than I lost everything. I wouldn't see why not, but do so at your own risk.
19:28:21	cocoon	Sorry, do you mean specifically the "multimedia". It's not my device, and the owner might get mad if I screw it up. Thanks.
19:29:31	Laurent_	good I know the processor of the gmini now
19:29:48	Laurent_	can't find an assembler or compiler though...
19:29:54	Laurent_	got to go
19:29:57	Laurent_	bye !
19:30:24		Part Laurent_
19:34:40	Sebulba02	I don't own one of those, so I don't know specifically for it.
19:57:40	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
20:00
20:13:29	cocoon	thanks very much, bye!
20:15:21		Quit cocoon ()
20:29:34		Join midknight2k3 [0] (zakk@ACAC8D15.ipt.aol.com)
20:30:54	Sebulba02	(13:01:35) Laurent_: does anyone here know midnkight2k3's email address ?
20:30:55	Sebulba02	(13:02:25) Laurent_: or can pass him this URL he wanted yesterday : http://lgiroud.chez.tiscali.fr/gmini/ui.html
20:31:14	midknight2k3	ok thx
20:31:25	Sebulba02	np
20:31:58	midknight2k3	brb
20:38:39		Join cjnr112 [0] (trilluser@l02m-8-205.d1.club-internet.fr)
20:56:50		Join midk2k3 [0] (zakk@ACD2D6C6.ipt.aol.com)
20:56:50		Quit midknight2k3 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
20:58:02		Nick midk2k3 is now known as midknight2k3 (zakk@ACD2D6C6.ipt.aol.com)
21:00
21:01:20		Quit cjnr11 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
21:02:34		Join edx{code} [0] (edx@pD9EAA4D7.dip.t-dialin.net)
21:03:00		Join earHertz [0] (~chatzilla@pool-138-88-166-150.res.east.verizon.net)
21:05:19	midknight2k3	hi earhurts
21:05:27	midknight2k3	hertz
21:15:46		Join cjnr11 [0] (trilluser@l02m-8-205.d1.club-internet.fr)
21:15:48		Quit cjnr112 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
21:21:16	midknight2k3	earHertz?
21:33:18		Join DJBaz [0] (~baz@modem-1810.lion.dialup.pol.co.uk)
21:39:05		Join sev [0] (~sev@adsl-66-124-57-103.dsl.anhm01.pacbell.net)
21:39:47	sev	hello. has the archos jukebox studio 10 ROM ever been flashed to rockbox?
21:39:53	sev	i want a faster bootup
21:40:06	midknight2k3	studios are unflashable as is
21:40:13	midknight2k3	it's being worked on though
21:40:23	midknight2k3	or at least as far as i know
21:41:17	sev	well is there anything i can do to make this thing start quicker?
21:41:33	midknight2k3	not as far as i know
21:41:38	midknight2k3	how long does it take?
21:41:46	sev	like 10 seconds
21:42:04	Ctcp	Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
21:42:04	*	midknight2k3 shrugs
21:45:34		Quit mecraw__ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)")
21:51:00		Join Arnaud [0] (~asl@adsl.hlfl.org)
21:57:43	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
22:00
22:08:49		Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com)
22:09:00	midknight2k3	hi scott666
22:09:04	scott666	hey
22:12:01	scott666	well im off to xmas dinner
22:12:07	midknight2k3	its 12/24
22:12:10	midknight2k3	but ok bye
22:12:15	scott666	*xmas eve
22:12:21	midknight2k3	lol
22:12:22	midknight2k3	ok
22:25:08		Quit DJBaz ("Leaving")
22:33:02		Nick edx{code} is now known as edx (edx@pD9EAA4D7.dip.t-dialin.net)
22:35:54		Nick edx is now known as edx{bed} (edx@pD9EAA4D7.dip.t-dialin.net)
22:38:23		Quit sev ()
22:39:30		Join DJBaz [0] (~baz@modem-2567.leopard.dialup.pol.co.uk)
22:46:41		Join lini [0] (~lini@vega-club.rousse.spnet.net)
22:47:16	lini	merry Xmas all!
22:47:31	midknight2k3	hey!
22:47:39	midknight2k3	happy holydays :D
22:47:43	midknight2k3	holi*
22:47:47	methangas	merry christmas everyone
22:47:57	*	methangas starts ripping the CD's he got for christmas
22:48:16	midknight2k3	ITS ONLY THE 24th
22:48:20	methangas	yes
22:48:22	midknight2k3	unless my date is wrong
22:48:59	methangas	well most countries in europe gets their presents at christmas eve
22:49:16	midknight2k3	yeah
22:49:24	midknight2k3	whatever merry xmas lol
22:49:36	midknight2k3	hey my clock will be put out on christmas
22:49:40	midknight2k3	present to all
22:50:32	lini	here its 23:50 so we're pretty close
22:50:41	midknight2k3	yeah
22:51:12	lini	i don't get a present though ;(
22:51:24	lini	i have to buy my own later :)
22:51:48	midknight2k3	lol
22:52:16	lini	i'm still not sure what to get :/
22:53:09	lini	since av320 is out of the question i have to decide between a DVD recorder, LCD monitor, or a PDA.
22:54:11	midknight2k3	sdd
23:00
23:13:37		Quit earHertz ("ChatZilla 0.9.54b [Mozilla rv:1.5/20031007]")
23:19:56		Join Simon` [0] (Shadow@ANantes-106-1-33-84.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr)
23:20:02	Simon`	Hi
23:20:05	Simon`	is there someone alive here ?
23:20:37	midknight2k3	hi
23:20:38	midknight2k3	i am
23:21:04	Simon`	I'd like to ask someone if rockbox will be available for the Gmini 120
23:21:28	midknight2k3	no. it wont.
23:21:35	Simon`	ok :(
23:21:41	midknight2k3	sorry
23:26:48		Quit Simon` ("Past a good morning !")
23:30:43		Quit DJBaz ("Leaving")
23:36:27		Join DJBaz [0] (~baz@modem-2567.leopard.dialup.pol.co.uk)
23:37:06	midknight2k3	sln////k
23:37:15	midknight2k3	OK who wants to test my clock
23:37:23	midknight2k3	plugin
23:37:27	midknight2k3	new and improved
23:37:29	midknight2k3	anyoen?
23:37:37	Sebulba02	whats it do?
23:38:02	Sebulba02	other than tell time
23:38:13	midknight2k3	it has some nifty features
23:39:06	Sebulba02	do you have a binary?
23:39:16	midknight2k3	.rock
23:39:17	midknight2k3	yes
23:39:33	Sebulba02	where at?
23:39:41	midknight2k3	right here
23:39:43	midknight2k3	dcc ok?
23:39:49		Quit DJBaz (Client Quit)
23:39:57	Sebulba02	not really, no. gaim doesn't dcc
23:40:04	midknight2k3	ill upload it online
23:40:14	Sebulba02	cool
23:41:04	midknight2k3	up.lo.ad.in.g
23:41:40	midknight2k3	sheesh comp slow today
23:41:53	Sebulba02	how big is it!?
23:42:01	midknight2k3	2.7KB
23:42:15	midknight2k3	too big for your archos to hold ? :D
23:42:22	Sebulba02	heh, nah
23:42:26	midknight2k3	phew
23:42:31	midknight2k3	i thought id have to rip out some features
23:42:32	Sebulba02	I only use ~2G on mine
23:42:45	midknight2k3	okp.
23:42:53	midknight2k3	think its up
23:42:55	midknight2k3	sec
23:42:59	midknight2k3	yup
23:43:59	midknight2k3	back in a few all
23:44:30		Join DJBaz [0] (~baz@modem-2567.leopard.dialup.pol.co.uk)
23:46:34		Quit DJBaz (Client Quit)
23:48:54		Join DJBaz [0] (~baz@modem-2567.leopard.dialup.pol.co.uk)
23:50:37		Quit DJBaz (Client Quit)
23:57:47	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"

Previous day | Next day