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#rockbox log for 2003-12-25

00:45:29 Join diddystar5 [0] (Lee@AC8B19B2.ipt.aol.com)
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01:14:22 Join kurzhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@Be179.b.pppool.de)
01:14:31diddystar5hi kurzhaarrocker
01:14:44kurzhaarrockermerry (xmas)!
01:14:46midknight2k3hey kurz
01:14:57diddystar5heh
01:15:00diddystar5its so stuiped
01:15:09diddystar5you cant even say christmas in school
01:15:19kurzhaarrocker?
01:15:41midknight2k3lol!
01:17:00kurzhaarrockerFor rockboxers - shouldn't it be xMAS ? :)
01:17:21midknight2k3LOLO
01:17:22midknight2k3YEA
01:17:26midknight2k3xMAS!
01:18:52kurzhaarrockermid: was it you who asked for key descriptions on the spliteditor?
01:19:13midknight2k3yes
01:19:13midknight2k3yes
01:19:31kurzhaarrockeryou have an fm recorder?
01:20:13midknight2k3yes'
01:20:23*kurzhaarrocker builds fm stuff
01:20:58midknight2k3i can be your beta tester
01:21:18kurzhaarrocker:) It really is more alpha right now
01:21:44Sebulba02running alpha is even more fun than beta
01:22:11midknight2k3lol
01:22:43diddystar5sdd
01:24:31kurzhaarrockerwww.carangg.de/splitedit_fm.zip
01:25:04midknight2k3sec kurzhaarrocker
01:25:29kurzhaarrockerI still have serious problems with looping at the very end of a song
01:26:06diddystar5goota go
01:26:11diddystar5bye everyone
01:26:16kurzhaarrockercu.
01:26:20diddystar5have a nice x mas
01:26:29midknight2k3xMAS
01:26:31midknight2k3bye
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01:28:07kurzhaarrockeror www.carang.de/splitedit_rec.zip if you intend to change to recorder without fm... :)
01:31:01*kurzhaarrocker has the shits
01:31:03kurzhaarrockermust go
01:31:10midknight2k3LOL
01:31:11midknight2k3ok
01:31:13midknight2k3bye
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01:40:24midknight2k3trakky
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01:41:08trakkwhat
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01:54:01midknight2k3jurz
01:54:03midknight2k3kurz
01:54:20midknight2k3i read the controls, still seems a bit complicated - i think it needs a manual :)
01:54:51kurzhaarrockerdefinitly
01:55:01midknight2k3WOW
01:55:04midknight2k3lots of code
01:55:12midknight2k3looks like you worked very hard on it
01:55:33kurzhaarrockerThe problem is that the MAS peak readout is not very reliable.
01:56:26kurzhaarrockerThus I had to develop an updating strategy for the osci so that the 'best' readouts are taken into account.
01:56:43midknight2k3you should make an oscilloSCOPE
01:56:58midknight2k3no i know what needs to be done - make your filling up progress bar at the wps
01:56:59midknight2k3:D
01:57:21*midknight2k3 wonders how to put kurzhaarrocker's coding skills to good use
01:57:26kurzhaarrockererm. I did that osci already
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01:57:38midknight2k3you made the oscillograph?
01:57:43kurzhaarrockeryes
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01:57:53midknight2k3wow! can it be made into a scope though?
01:58:00midknight2k3like with the bouncy line
01:58:30kurzhaarrockeryou mean realtime. Well, should be possible. Never thought about that.
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01:58:37midknight2k3yeah
01:58:39midknight2k3thatd be nice
01:58:52midknight2k3where the line is straight and like curves for the volume
01:59:24kurzhaarrocker? Which line is straight?
01:59:42midknight2k3one straight line
01:59:55kurzhaarrockerthe x axxis?
01:59:59midknight2k3yes
02:00
02:00:08midknight2k3it stays in one place but sort of curves to the music
02:01:19kurzhaarrockerHave you ever used f2 in the oscillograph?
02:01:29midknight2k3hmm
02:01:33midknight2k3ill try
02:02:19midknight2k3oh yeash
02:02:23midknight2k3but thats not what i meant
02:02:40kurzhaarrockertried f1, too?
02:02:47midknight2k3yes
02:02:53midknight2k3sort of like f1+f2
02:02:55midknight2k3but faster
02:03:17kurzhaarrockerfaster than that is hardly possible. It uses already hardware acceleration for scrolling
02:03:26midknight2k3no..
02:03:30midknight2k3hrm
02:03:30midknight2k3wait
02:05:12midknight2k3http://www.soft-test.com/images/dsplab10.gif
02:05:15midknight2k3sort of like that
02:05:48kurzhaarrockerYou mean with a scale grid?
02:05:53midknight2k3no..
02:06:01midknight2k3just a straight line that bounces.
02:06:05midknight2k3waveform! thats it
02:06:16kurzhaarrockerAh. That's not possible.
02:06:27midknight2k3no?
02:06:34kurzhaarrockerThe MAS gives us "peak values" only
02:06:45Sebulba02god, I've gotten more spam than real mail the past 3 days
02:06:58midknight2k3we could just use l for the left side and r for the right
02:08:50kurzhaarrockerfeel free. It's only very little code and quite easy.
02:09:03midknight2k3i couldnt
02:09:17midknight2k3i have an idea but ill wait till i get done with clock before i try it
02:09:42kurzhaarrockerYou're making a clock plugin?
02:10:06midknight2k3yes
02:10:16kurzhaarrockercool
02:12:08kurzhaarrockerWill it have extra features? Like alarm with music or something?
02:12:49midknight2k3not yet
02:12:55midknight2k3hrm
02:12:56midknight2k3alarm
02:13:01midknight2k3hrrrmmmmm
02:13:03midknight2k3lol
02:13:07midknight2k3wait till we get the timer done
02:14:53*kurzhaarrocker is afraid of mpeg.c
02:15:07midknight2k3why
02:15:19kurzhaarrockerI must put in a looping feature, but I don't understand half of the code.
02:15:50kurzhaarrockerThe way I do looping now can not work at the end of a song.
02:16:24*midknight2k3 shrugs
02:16:26kurzhaarrockerTo circumvent that problem a real looping feature on mas api level would be the best.
02:16:31midknight2k3mpeg.c is probably the most complicated code
02:17:05kurzhaarrockerAll that bitswapping, dma stuff and these callbacks to playlist.c
02:17:12midknight2k3yeah
02:17:22*kurzhaarrocker still wonders why those callback functions aren't pluggable.
02:17:42midknight2k3sdd
02:20:39*kurzhaarrocker runs for the toilet again
02:20:51midknight2k3oh boy lol
02:31:10midknight2k3lemme know when you get back kurzhaarrocker
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04:00:02Sebulba02ugh, hate dialup
04:00:34midknight2k3indeed
04:02:16Sebulba02well, its all compiled now
04:03:56midknight2k3in to PM?
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04:38:10midknight2k3hey acid
04:38:14midknight2k3are you a good coder DDF
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07:31:31arspy87hey everyone
07:31:48arspy87it took me like 10 tried to actually get in here for some odd reason
07:31:49midknight2k3noones here
07:31:51midknight2k3so...
07:32:05arspy87i bet everyones gone becuase of christmas eve etc and all that jazz
07:32:14midknight2k3no.
07:32:45arspy87oh
07:32:45arspy87ok
07:34:24arspy87so why is it empty here?
07:34:42midknight2k3its just normal
07:34:45midknight2k3its late and its.. YEAH
07:34:46arspy87ah
07:34:50midknight2k3o'um haj
07:34:58arspy87yeah late
07:35:00arspy87??
07:35:02arspy87?????
07:35:13midknight2k3sdd
07:35:35arspy87wha
07:36:13midknight2k3jlhjkl;zxd/nnbdn/ner/afdg
07:36:42arspy87?
07:36:54midknight2k3stfu
07:37:04arspy87k
07:38:15arspy87OW
07:38:28midknight2k3l;aaedftiuo??
07:38:50arspy87dropped the speaker on my foot
07:40:28midknight2k3,gyhztt??
07:40:56arspy87yes.
07:41:04midknight2k3jktrouil?
07:41:04arspy87this is such an odd conversation
07:41:09midknight2k3sx;th!
07:41:17arspy87yes jktrouil!
07:41:22arspy87i agree,
07:41:27midknight2k3guhil jsFCDHNM~!
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12:26:37c0uttahas anyone here experienced the dead red led ?
12:26:48kurzhaarrockeryes. me.
12:27:17kurzhaarrockerAll I must do is shake the thing while loading data.
12:29:15c0uttai sent a mail to the list: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-12/1042.shtml
12:30:26kurzhaarrockerI infact assume that the red led death is related to some drives.
12:30:56c0uttathe behaviour has only started occurring in the last month
12:31:47c0uttareally bizarre, so i might "unflash" and see if that's contributing
12:31:50c0uttai doubt it tho
12:31:57kurzhaarrockerme too
12:32:45kurzhaarrockerAnother thing: the battery contacts somtimes get bad. I have no idea wether that might cause red led death though.
12:33:03c0uttai've done 2 resoldering efforts in 2 years
12:33:21c0uttai'm hopeless with an iron, so i may get a professional to do it next time
12:35:13kurzhaarrockerIf you've resoldered that already I have no idea.
12:36:06kurzhaarrockerSince you wrote you exchanged the drive - have you tried wether this happens with the old drive, too?
12:36:48c0uttagood point. i've had the toshiba for 8 months tho
12:37:28kurzhaarrockerYou use that thing in your car?
12:38:13c0uttayes. home stereo too. lockups happen in both environments
12:39:11kurzhaarrockerHm. So it's not vibration related. I remember there was a motorbiker whose jukebox would suffer RLD at speed >80mph...
12:46:03c0uttai wonder whether a scandisk is thorough enough to detect drive errors ?
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14:45:06kurzhaarrockerI use a cygwin setup can anybody help me how to use gdb on the simulator?
14:54:46Sebulba02gdb simulator.exe ?
14:55:33kurzhaarrockerIt gives me millions of separat windows each containing a message that seem to belong to standart out or error out.
14:56:04Sebulba02that sucks, never used gdb in cygwin before
14:58:00Sebulba02you can just place printf's everywhere, it should printout in a console somewhere
14:58:32kurzhaarrockerprobably gdb in cygwin has no console window and each printf goes into a separate window
14:59:40kurzhaarrockerMaybe there's some magic command that can redirect them somewhere. But I don't know it.
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15:00:50Sebulba02 2>&1 > file.txt
15:00:55Sebulba02err
15:01:04Sebulba02gdb simulator > file.txt 2>&1
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15:01:47*kurzhaarrocker tries
15:02:05kurzhaarrockerwithout success
15:02:12Sebulba02stupid cygwin
15:02:21kurzhaarrockerwhat is that 2>&1 supposed to do?
15:02:32Sebulba02pipes sterr to stdout
15:02:44Sebulba02stderr
15:02:55kurzhaarrocker2 == sderr?
15:03:05Sebulba02yeah
15:03:11Sebulba020 is stdin
15:03:14Sebulba021 is stdout
15:03:17Sebulba022 stderr
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15:13:17kurzhaarrockerThat sucks. I can redirect the output of uisw32.exe into a file without gdb, but not with it.
15:14:16Sebulba02then don't use gdb
15:14:50kurzhaarrockerBut I want to debug! Need to squish some memory hazards.
15:15:02Sebulba02ah
15:15:05Sebulba02err
15:17:14kurzhaarrockerthese 1, 2 thingies - can they be used as tty?
15:18:58Sebulba02as a tty?
15:19:29kurzhaarrockergdb seems to have a parameter
15:19:29kurzhaarrocker−−tty=TTY Use TTY for input/output by the program being debugged.
15:19:48Sebulba02hmm
15:19:58Sebulba02do you have a /dev/ in cygwin?
15:20:08kurzhaarrockerseems so
15:20:28Sebulba02−−tty=/dev/tty/1 or something
15:20:51Sebulba02that should pipe it to the first console your using
15:20:56kurzhaarrockerno success
15:22:13Sebulba02try −−tty=/dev/stdout
15:22:46kurzhaarrocker:(
15:23:25Sebulba02use a real environment ;)
15:30:46kurzhaarrockerWhat do you assiciate with "Interpreter 'mi1'"?
15:36:50*kurzhaarrocker gives up
15:36:58Sebulba02uh
15:37:07Sebulba02interpreter 'mi1' , wtf?
15:38:28kurzhaarrockerI installed eclipse. When I try to debug from it it says: Failed lauchning CDI Debugger: Error creating session: Interpreter 'mi1' unrecognized
15:39:27Sebulba02CDI.. ahhh
15:39:46kurzhaarrockerIs that a dvd burning format?
15:40:58Sebulba02I dunno, but I think CDI is "C Development Interface" or something for eclipse
15:41:14kurzhaarrockerah, yes.
15:41:21Sebulba02As for why it can't open the debugger, did you follow the instructions on the rockbox website?
15:41:32kurzhaarrockeryes
15:41:40*kurzhaarrocker hopes at least
15:42:07kurzhaarrockerThere was some trouble because I had to find out you have to run configure in each target directory first.
15:43:36Sebulba02hmm
15:43:48kurzhaarrockerdo you use eclipse?
15:44:31Sebulba02yep
15:44:44kurzhaarrockerAnd you can debug from within?
15:45:03Sebulba02yeah, but I've never tried putting rockbox in it
15:45:15kurzhaarrockerok.
15:45:39Sebulba02What version of eclipse are you using?
15:45:44kurzhaarrocker2.1
15:45:50Sebulba02same
15:46:45kurzhaarrockershould it be able to debug .elf thingies?
15:47:05Sebulba02I don't see why not, but i'm not sure
15:48:00kurzhaarrockerIt doesn't run very stable here. Since I installed that CDI thing it hangs a lot
15:48:51Sebulba02weird, I've been running mine for weeks and never lost stability.. maybe a win32 / linux difference?
15:49:18kurzhaarrockerFor java it worked fine here since ages, too.
15:49:27Sebulba02never used it for java
15:49:52Sebulba02I've been running 2.1.1 here with CDI for my sr research & its never been unstable
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15:50:11kurzhaarrockerLet's port rockbox to java.
15:50:16Sebulba02ugh
15:50:22Sebulba02C# ;)
15:50:32*kurzhaarrocker runs away
15:50:51Sebulba02heh
15:51:03kurzhaarrockerI'm afraid of things I don't know
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15:53:27trackMERRY XMAS TO ALL ROCKBOXERS!!!
15:53:30Sebulba02C# is cool
15:53:52kurzhaarrockerxMAS? Is that an extended MAS chip?
15:54:07Sebulba02yep
15:54:08trackMERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL ROCKBOXERS!!!
15:54:25kurzhaarrockerAh. Completely forgot about that!
15:54:42Sebulba02kurzhaarrocker: if you understand java / C++, C# is a piece of cake.
15:54:58*kurzhaarrocker gets hungry
15:55:14kurzhaarrockerOne day I'll have look at it.
15:55:39track:-)
15:56:37track:D
15:57:23kurzhaarrockerAre any of you busy with interesting rockbox projects?
15:57:43Sebulba02that depends
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15:58:12kurzhaarrockerso you're busy with dull rockbox projects?
15:58:45Sebulba02Not really, no.
15:59:11kurzhaarrockerHave interesting projects on mind but you're not busy with them?
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16:00:19Sebulba02Sorta, I have to write a wireless simulator, its on mind and I work on it when I figure out a good way to do something.
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16:01:36*kurzhaarrocker has no idea what a wireless simulator could do
16:02:05Sebulba02err, a computer with a wireless card connecting to an AP.
16:02:19Sebulba02think numerous computers and lots of APs
16:02:45kurzhaarrockerWhat's an AP?
16:02:51Sebulba02access point
16:03:10kurzhaarrockerok. Something not at all related to jukeboxes. :(
16:03:16Sebulba02nope
16:03:21Sebulba02802.11g
16:04:15kurzhaarrockerI'm hungry. cu.
16:05:15Sebulba02later
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18:26:10arspy87hey
18:26:44arspy87i gotta question regarding winxp...
18:27:12arspy87in IE i get a squaky sound when scrolling with the mouse wheel or right clicking - whats up with that?
18:28:36Sebulba02uh, because they both suck? *shrugs*
18:30:03arspy87lol
18:30:44arspy87btw, [insert happy or synonymous adjective here] [insert holiday here] to you
18:30:55Sebulba02you too
18:31:16arspy87i thought the squakiness could be interference or something
18:31:34Sebulba02Don't know, did you check your sound settings?
18:31:35arspy87oh well, i emailed dell
18:31:57Sebulba02Is it coming from the mouse or the machine?
18:32:00arspy87yeah i looked around adn couldnt find anything. also muted all inputs and outputs and still get it
18:32:08arspy87through my headphones and/or speakers
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18:32:38arspy87hey kurzaarrocker
18:32:48kurzhaarrockerthat's me!
18:32:52kurzhaarrockerhi
18:33:01Sebulba02But you muted all sounds and its still there?
18:33:07arspy87yep, happy/merry [insert holiday here]
18:33:13arspy87yeah i muted all
18:33:17arspy87sound still there
18:33:31kurzhaarrockerThat's tinnitus!
18:33:40Sebulba02If you turn the speakers off?
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18:38:44arspy87sory about that
18:38:54arspy87what did i miss?
18:39:10Sebulba02Do you still hear it if you turn the speakers off?
18:39:23arspy87no
18:39:36arspy87comes through the speakers when they are on
18:39:40Sebulba02But you tried both speakers and headphones in the same jack and you hear it.
18:39:50arspy87if theyre jsut muted through the OS, then i hear it
18:39:51arspy87yes
18:41:11Sebulba02Odd.
18:41:21arspy87yeah
18:41:29arspy87i thoguht it could be interference if i had a tv tuner or something
18:41:44Sebulba02Could be anything close to them.
18:41:51Sebulba02But it shouldn't affect headphones.
18:42:02arspy87i know
18:42:18arspy87i also hear the sound more distinctly through my from headphone port than directly out through my audigy
18:42:25Sebulba02Does your soundcard have multiple audio outs? Like front/rear?
18:42:28arspy87front*
18:42:32arspy87yeah it does
18:42:40Sebulba02And you hear it in both?
18:42:56arspy87ill try out rear
18:43:33arspy87yep got it in both
18:43:54Sebulba02Wack
18:44:03arspy87actually if i turn up the volume a lot i get constant static interference
18:44:20Sebulba02Maybe a faulty card
18:44:35arspy87hmm that would really stink
18:44:55arspy87i thought it oculd be modem interference
18:45:04arspy87gonna try unplugging it from the card brb
18:45:10Sebulba02Okay
18:47:07arspy87nope still got the sound
18:47:34arspy87i thought it could be if its sharing an IRQ or something?
18:48:25arspy87but its not sharing...
18:49:03Sebulba02Do you happen to have another soundcard laying around?
18:49:50arspy87yeah
18:50:10arspy87have an audigy 1 from my old comp
18:50:11Sebulba02Try plugging it in
18:50:16arspy87try that out?
18:50:26arspy87hmm id have to be really secretive or my parents would kill me lol
18:50:27Sebulba02Yeah, it'll let you know if its the soundcard really fast.
18:50:52Sebulba02heh
18:52:55kurzhaarrockerDo you really think it's worth the effort? With installing drivers and everything?
18:53:15arspy87thats true
18:53:51arspy87got any other advice? lol
18:53:55kurzhaarrockerI once had a really instable win98 due to multiple soundcard drivers
18:54:29arspy87hmm, yeah ill skip adding a second card....
18:55:45Sebulba02If win98 had issues, you know XP will.
18:55:54kurzhaarrockerI don't know what this static interference sounds like. I have no clue. Could be anything from a weak power supply, badly grounded pc, whatever
18:56:34arspy87squeaky, crackily static at high volumes
18:56:46arspy87built by dell so id doubt they supply a bad psu
18:57:10kurzhaarrockerso it's more in the higher frequency ranges?
18:57:44kurzhaarrockerno humming?
18:58:19kurzhaarrockerhigh volume of the noise or the noise appears on high volume settings?
18:58:30arspy87noise appears on high vol settings
18:58:44arspy87brb guys, gonna try switching the card to a diff slot. back in 2
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19:04:21*kurzhaarrocker wonders what edx might be coding
19:04:43edx{code}my 3d engine =D
19:04:46edx{code}(not for rockbox ;P)
19:05:45kurzhaarrockerFor a second I had the vision of edx surround sound rock...
19:06:04edx{code}=)
19:06:13edx{code}i need my archos back first! :O
19:06:21kurzhaarrockerIs it broken?
19:06:25edx{code}it was
19:06:25Sebulba02What are you writing you engine in?
19:06:31edx{code}then i bought a new one
19:06:35edx{code}and then it was broken too
19:06:36edx{code}:(
19:06:45edx{code}Sebulba02: in managed c++
19:06:49kurzhaarrockerlol: that sounds like my story
19:07:06edx{code}yea but i dont like that story :p
19:07:21edx{code}i had it transfer 20 gigs at once
19:07:27edx{code}after that the hd seemed to be broken
19:07:33Sebulba02heh
19:07:37edx{code}just some scratching
19:07:53kurzhaarrockerugh
19:08:28kurzhaarrockerrockbox for dj?
19:08:34edx{code}:D
19:09:09kurzhaarrockerdownload coplete -> me goes offline. cu
19:09:31edx{code}cu
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19:16:11Sebulba02geez, almost every email I'm getting is spam
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19:16:44arspy87okay, it didnt' work
19:16:47arspy87grrrrrrr
19:17:34Sebulba02What didn't?
19:17:54Sebulba02Oh, you swapped the card.
19:18:02arspy87no i didnt
19:18:10arspy87just moved teh sound card toa a different slot
19:18:30arspy87really annoying
19:18:37arspy87i emailed dell and they gave me some bogus response
19:18:44arspy87so i emailed back
19:19:10Sebulba02heh
19:19:28arspy87ill have to give them a call later i guess
19:19:55Sebulba02Doubt you'll get through
19:20:03arspy87you're probably right
19:20:11Sebulba02Everyone and their dumb brother who just got a new computer will be calling them.
19:20:29Sebulba02Best to wait a week, minimum.
19:21:30arspy87hmm
19:24:12arspy87think it might be faulty hardware?
19:24:46Sebulba02Could be, dunno.
19:25:20arspy87well, ill wait for dell again. and try calling them later, like around dinner when it will be the least busy
19:27:54arspy87so anyhting interesting you guys got for the holidays?
19:28:32Sebulba02Nope.
19:28:37arspy87lol
19:33:54arspy87why is dell so stupid
19:34:13arspy87i got another bogus response, this time with a link explaining the persistence of noise coming from your computer's fan
19:35:03Sebulba02lol
19:35:14Sebulba02I suppose they suggest unplugging the fan?
19:35:54arspy87tried it
19:36:15arspy87really weird...
19:36:44arspy87i bet theyll end up sending me another sound card or something - they often like doing that
19:37:46Sebulba02What kind is it?
19:37:58arspy87creative audigy 2
19:38:04Sebulba02Cool.
19:38:12arspy87yeah, 6.1
19:38:35arspy87they got rid of the joystick ports on them
19:38:55arspy87which really irritated me, i cant plug in my midi inputs now lol
19:39:09Sebulba02heh, I've never used one of those
19:42:23scott666 really? my audigy 2 has one
19:42:40arspy87really?
19:42:42arspy87hmm
19:42:44arspy87what model
19:42:57scott666ummm?
19:43:09arspy87does it have a front bay?
19:43:09arspy87brb
19:43:12scott666yeah
19:44:21arspy87ah, i dont have one
19:44:30arspy87i have teh standard model
19:44:41arspy87no bay
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19:47:31arspy87well i g2g
19:47:40arspy87thank for helping me out :)
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19:53:30toufhello
19:54:29toufI'm french linux user and I bought a Archos Jukebox 6000
19:55:53toufI have problem when I want mount my archos, I load the modules usb-storage scsi_mod and all usb modules
19:57:25toufand I have an error : mount: /dev/sda1 isn't good type blocs
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21:47:38midknight2k3help
21:52:43midknight2k3i think i got it yay
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22:04:48trackoh here we go
22:04:53midknight2k3I ROCK
22:04:54midknight2k3MAN
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22:06:24diddystar5track!!!!!
22:06:48midknight2k3what
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22:06:59midknight2k3track thats mean
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22:09:37midknight2k3retarted trakk
22:09:38midknight2k3j/k :D
22:11:09trackFM Chip emulator for the normal recorders
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22:30:11midknight2k3HELP!
22:30:13*midknight2k3 panics
22:30:15midknight2k3coders?!
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22:55:16midknight2k3someoje
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23:30:53Sebulba02Hey Bluechip.
23:31:04BluechipHEY GO SEBBY
23:31:12Bluechipsorry, didn't mean to shout
23:31:18Sebulba02heh, np
23:31:42Bluechipglad im not the only spod sad enough to be here today :D
23:32:01Sebulba02Oh, your not.
23:32:11Bluechipbeen busy today?
23:32:15Sebulba02Lots of channels are busy
23:32:37Sebulba02Not really in here, no. Some come in and go again, nothing constant.
23:32:53Bluechipbrb
23:34:04Sebulba02Alrighty.
23:34:49scott666its consistent in that its the same as every other day in thie channel
23:35:19scott666err constant
23:35:25scott666but close enough
23:47:49Bluechipsorry - friend bearing 15yr old single malt pressie :-) yo ho ho
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23:49:08Bluechipscott: i think I'd let you have consistent and a synonym for constant in this case
23:55:33Bluechipanyone know if i can do "gcc -DDIR=1234 -DFLAG file.c"
23:55:49Bluechipthe quetion being on "-DDIR=1234"
23:56:02*kurzhaarrocker has no clue
23:56:11Bluechipta
23:56:44kurzhaarrockerBut maybe you have a clue how to make gcc in cygwin environment not to open a new window for each message that goes to stdout?
23:56:58Bluechipuse my on windows dev kit
23:57:02Bluechipsorry
23:57:08Bluechipon->own
23:57:23kurzhaarrockereclipse?
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23:58:00Bluechipno, a botch together of everything required ...it will eventually be the new official rockbox devkit ...working on it with roland
23:58:13kurzhaarrockercool
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23:58:29Bluechipfew crappy bits to smooth over in the mean time - it works, but is a bit of hack
23:58:54Sebulba02yeah, like you need to add 'clear' and 'vi' :P

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