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#rockbox log for 2004-01-04

00:00:10DoggerStrath: sorry if I am not being very helpful at the moment, but I've just snarfed the av300 boot rom sector and am analyzing it
00:00:23Strathnice
00:00:44LinusNkurzhaarrocker: you may be right..
00:00:47Strathya, the family is draging me out the door
00:02:00kurzhaarrockerIn fact this 2 dimensional navigation even reduces button clicks necessary to select an entry.
00:02:11LinusNyeah
00:03:13***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
00:06:05 Join baz_ [0] (~baz@modem-100.leopard.dialup.pol.co.uk)
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00:11:12kurzhaarrockerThen I have that question about find_next_frame: Did I understand it right, that this parameter "last_header" is optional and can be set to 0?
00:13:02LinusNkurzhaarrocker: yes it can, but then it may find a false header
00:14:26kurzhaarrockerI had a short look into the datasheet: To me it seems that get_last_recorded_header could be used while playing, too. Was there a reason why it has "recorded" in its name?
00:15:03LinusNnot really, it's just that it's only used for recording
00:15:20kurzhaarrockerHm. good.
00:15:26LinusNnever thought of a good use for it when playing
00:15:55kurzhaarrockerWell in conjunction wit find_next_frame there is a good use :)
00:16:19LinusNwhy?
00:16:49kurzhaarrockerIt's about split editor again. I'd like to to make the split cursor snap onto frame boundaries.
00:17:30LinusNusing the mas?
00:18:07kurzhaarrockerNo, using get_last_recorded_header, fed with a last header from the mas to make it more precise.
00:19:12LinusNbut how do you know that the last header in the mas comes from the same stream that you are editing?
00:19:32kurzhaarrockerIn the split editor I am looping around the split point.
00:19:43LinusNok
00:24:09dwihnoLinusN: Nah, but this is just a proof of concept... The icons are of course changeable.
00:24:25dwihnoLinusN: This is work-in-progress and I just wanted feedback :)
00:24:39dwihnoSo that's why it hardly works and you might get ILLINSTR:s ;)
00:25:24kurzhaarrockerdwihno: in the sound settings menu there probably would not be enough space to fit the labels, slider and numbers on one line?
00:26:23LinusNthen the sliders would be ridiculously small
00:30:59kurzhaarrockerWell, if they aren't rastered, maybe 30 pixel width is enough.
00:30:59kurzhaarrocker*shrug*
00:34:43dwihnoindeed, Linus is right
00:35:34 Quit oxygen77 ("ChatZilla 0.8.31 [Mozilla rv:1.4/7]")
00:40:37kurzhaarrockerLinus: does prerecording reserve the entire mp3 buffer?
00:42:26kurzhaarrockerThe problem is about volume triggered file splitting while recording with prerecording.
00:42:49kurzhaarrockerHm. How can I explain.
00:42:57LinusNyes it uses the entire buffer
00:43:16LinusNit's just as normal recording, it just doesn't save it to disk
00:43:25 Quit cjnr11 ()
00:44:19kurzhaarrockervolume triggered file splitting is a nightmare if you want to define the trigger with a minimum time. We'd have to cut the file somewhere in the past.
00:46:11kurzhaarrockerDo you think it would be possible to tell the mpeg engine to keep the last 2 seconds in the buffer unsaved? I'm thinking in terms of highwater, or something.
00:47:45LinusNor maybe extend the prerecord function a little
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00:48:17kurzhaarrockerWould that help? While volume triggered file splitting we are already recording.
00:49:12atrackHiya
00:49:17atrackHappy New Year all
00:49:29kurzhaarrockerSomething like simulating the user to press the play button while recording - but two seconds ago.
00:49:35kurzhaarrockeratrack happy new yer
00:49:46*kurzhaarrocker lauches another rocket.
00:51:02LinusNkurzhaarrocker: i meant that the prerecord mechanism could be extended for this purpose, i.e the prerecord backtrack mechanism
00:51:17kurzhaarrockercool 8-)
01:00
01:02:38 Quit Dogger ("Client Exiting")
01:06:59kurzhaarrockerI'm off to bed. See you.
01:06:59kurzhaarrockerLinus: make sure that Zagor uses his scuba set when he's in real danger of drowning in emails...
01:07:20LinusNi'll see to it
01:07:24 Quit kurzhaarrocker ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)")
01:12:32 Quit atrack ("Leaving")
01:21:21Zagori'm off. night all!
01:21:27 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting")
01:23:26 Join atrack [0] (jirc@ACBC2D30.ipt.aol.com)
01:23:39atrackhi
01:24:28 Quit DJBaz ("Leaving")
01:30:07dwihno\o/
01:30:18atrackhi
01:31:34dwihnohej hej
01:38:47LinusNc0utta: i have fixed your id3 bug, please chack out the next daily build
01:44:11c0uttabeauty linus
01:45:25LinusNnite all
01:45:27 Part LinusN
01:45:33c0uttathx
01:48:59 Quit atrack ("Leaving")
01:57:51 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: stays crunchy in milk!")
02:00
02:01:34 Join kurzhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@Be590.b.pppool.de)
02:03:15***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
02:05:49 Quit AciD (Connection timed out)
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02:17:23 Join arspy87 [0] (~arspy87@h00062598fa3b.ne.client2.attbi.com)
02:17:39arspy87hey
02:24:33 Quit kurzhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
02:24:42 Join atrack [0] (jirc@ACBC2D30.ipt.aol.com)
02:26:00atrackhi
02:26:15midknight2k3hi
02:26:35atrackello mid
02:26:51midknight2k3ello track
02:27:11atrackhi
02:27:20atrackany new features?
02:28:09atrackIve got two CD burners in my PC now
02:28:15midknight2k3ooh
02:28:17midknight2k3leet
02:28:18atrackone of them is mount rainer compliant
02:28:23midknight2k3ooh
02:28:29midknight2k3can i see
02:28:58atrackif you must
02:29:05atracklet me get my camera
02:30:07atrackwell i'll have to do the pic later the batteries are flat
02:30:18midknight2k3aww
02:30:28midknight2k3HAHAHA
02:30:45midknight2k3you crack me up
02:32:13midknight2k3trak
02:34:21atrackok
02:34:38midknight2k3trakk
02:36:14midknight2k3trakky
02:36:29arspy87hi mk
02:36:46midknight2k3GRR
02:37:13arspy87?
02:37:37 Join Bluechip [0] (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com)
02:38:17atracksilly middy
02:38:32midknight2k3yo Bluechip
02:38:36midknight2k3yo yo yo
02:38:37arspy87hey bluchip
02:38:44Bluechipevenin' all :)
02:38:53Bluechip"atrack" intended pun?
02:38:58atrackyo bluechip
02:39:11arspy87blue i was playing with the rockbox sim for like an hour it was so fun, lol
02:39:19Bluechipcool :)
02:39:31Bluechipdid you install the win32sim build 8 patch?
02:40:00arspy87yeah
02:40:00midknight2k3he dunno how
02:40:03midknight2k3oh
02:40:03midknight2k3nm
02:40:06midknight2k3:)
02:40:06arspy87lol
02:40:08arspy87:)
02:40:11Bluechip:)
02:40:12midknight2k3GRR
02:40:27Bluechipsod's law gets us all in the end ;)
02:41:05arspy87sod's law = ?
02:41:36BluechipSod's Law: "Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong ...and with the worst possible outcome"
02:41:42atrackmid's law
02:41:45midknight2k3THAT IS SO TRUE
02:41:57Bluechipaka "murphy's law"
02:42:00arspy87i thought that was murphys law
02:42:01arspy87ywah
02:42:04arspy87yeah*
02:42:15Bluechipfo you know about coles law?
02:42:16midknight2k3afad you dfad
02:42:22arspy87heard of murphy's law, and its true
02:42:48Bluechipfo->do
02:43:01arspy87fo->do?
02:43:11DBUGEnqueued KICK Bluechip
02:43:11Bluechip01[01:42] <Bluechip> fo you know about coles law?
02:43:27midknight2k3lol as
02:43:28midknight2k3stupid
02:43:32arspy87aha
02:43:44arspy87my brain seems to self-correct typos lol
02:43:52Bluechiplol
02:44:37atrackwheres old ye mighty greatest?
02:44:58Bluechipim here!
02:45:00Bluechiplmao
02:45:19atracknope
02:45:22atracknot you
02:45:23midknight2k3me?
02:45:25midknight2k3im here!
02:45:28atracknope
02:45:29midknight2k3its me
02:45:30atrackmikeholden
02:45:31midknight2k3i know it
02:45:32Bluechipyeah, must be you m
02:45:33midknight2k3STFU
02:45:33Bluechipk
02:45:35midknight2k3ITS ME
02:45:36midknight2k3ITES ME
02:45:38midknight2k3ITS MIDK
02:45:43atrackno its mikeholden
02:45:44arspy87hi midk :)
02:45:48atrackhe is mighty greatest
02:45:52arspy87midk, say your trademark phrases
02:45:58midknight2k3SDD
02:45:59midknight2k3DFAD
02:46:01midknight2k3ASDF
02:46:02midknight2k3see
02:46:06midknight2k3trademark (tm)
02:46:11atrackwell look
02:46:16Bluechipyou could always ask him where he is by clicking on his name?
02:46:18atrack(mi)dknight
02:46:23atrack(mi)keholden
02:46:30arspy87lmao
02:46:31midknight2k3WOW TRACK
02:46:41 Nick Bluechip is now known as miBluechip (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com)
02:46:41DBUGEnqueued KICK miBluechip
02:46:49midknight2k3lmao
02:46:53arspy87HAHAHAHAHAH BC!!
02:46:56arspy87how do i do that
02:46:59 Nick miBluechip is now known as Bluechip (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com)
02:46:59DBUGEnqueued KICK Bluechip
02:46:59***Alert Mode level 1
02:47:01midknight2k3 do /nick
02:47:10midknight2k3 /nick <newnick>
02:47:14 Nick arspy87 is now known as miArspy87 (~arspy87@h00062598fa3b.ne.client2.attbi.com)
02:47:19 Nick midknight2k3 is now known as arspy87 (zakk@ACC2B41B.ipt.aol.com)
02:47:22arspy87A HAHAAHA
02:47:23 Nick atrack is now known as miatrack (jirc@ACBC2D30.ipt.aol.com)
02:47:25miArspy87HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
02:47:28miArspy87HAHAA
02:47:28arspy87oh wait
02:47:31arspy87my nick
02:47:34BluechipLMFAO
02:47:35 Nick arspy87 is now known as midknight2k3 (zakk@ACC2B41B.ipt.aol.com)
02:47:36miArspy87ROFL
02:47:43 Nick miatrack is now known as mikeholden (jirc@ACBC2D30.ipt.aol.com)
02:47:43midknight2k3YOULL NEVER GET IT
02:47:54mikeholdenI AM YE MIGHTY GREATEST!!!
02:48:04Bluechiphm
02:48:10 Nick miArspy87 is now known as miMikeholden (~arspy87@h00062598fa3b.ne.client2.attbi.com)
02:48:12miMikeholdenjk
02:48:20 Nick miMikeholden is now known as as87digit (~arspy87@h00062598fa3b.ne.client2.attbi.com)
02:48:21 Nick mikeholden is now known as mimimimimimikeho (jirc@ACBC2D30.ipt.aol.com)
02:48:31Bluechipomg, what have i started?
02:48:31as87digitmy alias
02:48:40 Nick mimimimimimikeho is now known as miZagor (jirc@ACBC2D30.ipt.aol.com)
02:48:47 Nick as87digit is now known as arspy87 (~arspy87@h00062598fa3b.ne.client2.attbi.com)
02:48:53midknight2k3STOP IT ALL!
02:48:59arspy87*switches back to appease bluchips spirits*
02:49:13 Nick miZagor is now known as midknight2k4 (jirc@ACBC2D30.ipt.aol.com)
02:49:39midknight2k3* Added midknight2k4!*@* to ignore list
02:49:40Bluechipno spirits here, I'm on antibiotics
02:49:44arspy87lol
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02:49:55midknight2k3god grr
02:50:05midknight2k3* Added midknight2k5!*@* to ignore list
02:50:14 Quit midknight2k4 (K-lined)
02:50:14 Quit midknight2k5 (K-lined)
02:50:16midknight2k3ok ill just ignore tracks hostname
02:50:18midknight2k3YESS
02:50:23midknight2k3klined indeed
02:50:25arspy87*arspy87 publicly apologizes for picking on mikeholden*
02:50:28midknight2k3thanks, freenode staff
02:52:21midknight2k3sshh all
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02:57:00***Alert Mode OFF
02:57:39Bluechipheh ...coool : dec = (dec<=20)?dec:((((dec-20)*((max*1000)/80))+500)/1000)+20;
02:57:50arspy87*brain throbs*
02:58:21arspy87why must school exist....
02:58:21arspy87brb
02:58:55Bluechipthink of all the really dumb f* you meet every day ...now imagine a planet covered in them!
02:59:15midknight2k3that's way too many tracks
02:59:36Bluechipfixed those bugs yet?
02:59:42midknight2k3what bugs
02:59:48Bluechipclock
02:59:55midknight2k3WHAT ARE THE BUGS
03:00
03:00:13Bluechipas I said last night when you asked : example 1... can only get help once
03:00:23midknight2k3ohh
03:00:27midknight2k3help?
03:00:31Bluechipf1
03:00:32midknight2k3f1?
03:00:41midknight2k3linus messed with the code
03:00:50midknight2k3took out Digital mode's f3 i think
03:00:54Bluechipyeah maybe he broke it :(
03:00:57midknight2k3ill resend him the GOOD version
03:00:59midknight2k3he did afaikm
03:01:08 Join atrack [0] (jirc@ACBF8292.ipt.aol.com)
03:01:17Bluechipsend me your original code and we can tell in minutes!
03:01:36Bluechipif you have the confidence in your code!
03:01:42Bluechiponly if
03:02:23Bluechipheh - cool - shall check now...
03:02:38midknight2k3compile and try it
03:02:40midknight2k3it should work
03:02:46midknight2k3he took out a few things.. :(
03:03:40 Quit atrack (Client Quit)
03:04:22arspy87back
03:04:28midknight2k3A.S.
03:05:22Bluechipon / off broke
03:05:30Bluechipas per digital f3 help
03:05:40midknight2k3ohh
03:05:42midknight2k3forgot that
03:05:45midknight2k3bc
03:05:51Bluechipbut f1 does work though :)
03:06:22midknight2k3linus afad'dded it
03:07:03Bluechipyes, so it would seem :(
03:07:09Bluechipthis works fine!
03:07:17midknight2k3yupsors
03:07:26Bluechip(apart from new on/off text)
03:07:28midknight2k3maybe instead he tfadded it
03:07:31arspy87stop making me jealous
03:07:39midknight2k3or vfadded it
03:07:41midknight2k3who knows
03:07:44midknight2k3either way its fadded
03:07:54arspy87rofl
03:08:00Bluechipjealous??
03:08:09CtcpIgnored 3 channel CTCP requests in 3 minutes and 48 seconds at the last flood
03:08:09*arspy87 wants archos + rockbox
03:08:12midknight2k3no
03:08:15midknight2k3arspy87 wants karma
03:08:17midknight2k3stinky
03:08:24Bluechipbuy hardware ...download firmware :)
03:08:41arspy87what about downloadable hardware?
03:08:42midknight2k3he has no firmware to download
03:08:46midknight2k3AS STFU
03:08:59arspy87k
03:09:13arspy87yes almighty midknight person
03:09:24midknight2k3A.S. do not anger me
03:09:33arspy87*sorry*
03:09:51midknight2k3GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrr
03:09:53midknight2k3IM ANGERED
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03:10:53midknight2k3GRR
03:10:55midknight2k3ANGERED MORE
03:10:58arspy87*ahh*
03:11:02 Part arspy87
03:11:21dwihno\o/
03:11:24midknight2k3DWINHO
03:11:26midknight2k3YOUR PATCH
03:11:28midknight2k3ITS SO COOL
03:11:41midknight2k3i'd love to help! can i draw up some neat icons or something
03:11:42dwihnoIt's bubu am fenster certified(tm) ;)
03:11:47midknight2k3lol
03:12:03Bluechipdwihno did life find you examining the audio patch?
03:12:16dwihnoBluechip: Well... no :) I haven't taken the time.
03:12:35Bluechips'okay ...had to ask :)
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03:12:46midknight2k3toppy
03:12:50midknight2k3oh wait didnt i ignore you
03:12:57dwihnomidknight2k3: well, my icons are merely placeholders.
03:12:59midknight2k3there
03:13:01midknight2k3done!
03:13:04midknight2k3unignored
03:13:13midknight2k3dwinho: any ... thing else i can help with? its very nice
03:13:14top_blokelol
03:13:19top_blokehey
03:13:21midknight2k3* Removed top_bloke!*@* from ignore list
03:13:21dwihnomidknight2k3: well, not really..
03:13:27midknight2k3oh well. nice work!
03:13:29top_blokesorry about that whole flood thing
03:13:36midknight2k3top: its ok
03:13:38midknight2k3me too.
03:13:55top_blokeok cool
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03:15:23midknight2k3GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
03:15:33arspy87*conquering fears* ;)
03:15:35midknight2k3GRrRRRRRrrRRRRrrRRrRrR!!!!!!!!!!
03:15:44midknight2k3aka cant stay out
03:16:10arspy87hi bluechip
03:16:23Bluechiphi
03:16:34Bluechip(again) :)
03:16:40arspy87:)
03:19:22midknight2k3wad da f
03:19:35Bluechip?
03:19:46midknight2k3aim crashed
03:19:54Bluechipuse trillian!
03:19:58midknight2k3TRILL SUCK
03:20:08midknight2k3TRILL "SUCK MINE" SUCK
03:20:08arspy87i'm with BC :)
03:20:13midknight2k3ok
03:20:16*midknight2k3 ignores as
03:20:23Bluechipyeah, we dont need software to suck us
03:20:35midknight2k3well im just saying
03:20:36midknight2k3it SUCKS
03:20:41midknight2k3OHH
03:20:43midknight2k3i got it
03:20:52midknight2k3ahh nm
03:21:09Bluechipyes, but although you're opinion is now known ...I STILL don't care - lol
03:21:28midknight2k3do you use trillsuck Bluechip
03:21:50arspy87*speaks for bc* yes
03:22:10Bluechipof course!! would you suggest that I run crash-a-minute AIM instead?
03:22:18midknight2k3i'm on the verge of ... THREATENING TO IGNORE YOU, AS!
03:22:42Bluechiphow is that EVER a threat?
03:22:53midknight2k3GRR
03:23:04*midknight2k3 has left #rockbox
03:23:19midknight2k3ha ha
03:23:20midknight2k3tricked yo
03:23:40Bluechipwow youre bored!
03:23:54midknight2k3no
03:23:55midknight2k3just angered
03:24:06arspy87sorry midk, what can i do to help out?
03:24:12Bluechipwho is controlling your emotions for you today/
03:24:13Bluechip?
03:24:16arspy87you dont have to do the rockbox flyby you know
03:24:17midknight2k3nobody
03:24:19midknight2k3just me
03:24:36Bluechipso then you are angry because, quite simply, you choose to be
03:24:43Bluechipweirdo!
03:24:54midknight2k3stop the ... whatever
03:25:06Bluechip??
03:25:25*arspy87 changes topic to "philisophical emotional reaction mechanisms"
03:25:39arspy87..." and stimuli"
03:25:55BluechipP.E.R.M.
03:26:08arspy87HA
03:26:12Bluechipi like that
03:26:14midknight2k3P.E.R.M.S.
03:26:23Bluechipperhaps ERM is more catchy though
03:26:32midknight2k3adsffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
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03:26:34Bluechipthe TLA approach
03:26:37DrArspy:)
03:26:41 Nick DrArspy is now known as arspy87 (~arspy87@h00062598fa3b.ne.client2.attbi.com)
03:26:44Bluechipwith my little eye...
03:27:34Bluechipmk, did aim add SecureIM yet?
03:27:44midknight2k3yes
03:27:53Bluechipcool
03:28:05midknight2k3yeah
03:28:09arspy87my firewall got angry with me for using SecureIM
03:28:15midknight2k3FU AS
03:28:30arspy87like i said midk, it is YOU who puts the F U in fun!!! :)
03:28:40Bluechiptrillian coders invented the SecureIM protocol :)
03:28:58arspy87i like SecureIM
03:28:59midknight2k3no bluechip
03:29:02midknight2k3oh thats it
03:29:09BluechipsecIM requires a direct connection
03:29:10arspy87sorry sorry midk!
03:29:11midknight2k3im going out of this place for a bit
03:29:13 Part midknight2k3
03:29:27arspy87ahhhh
03:29:30arspy87he left.
03:29:36Bluechipany idea why?
03:29:46arspy87he hates me and trillian
03:30:06Bluechipahaaa - handy to know
03:30:41arspy87if (trillian) midk=mad(); else midk=glad();
03:31:06BluechipI like it when people install little <kaboom> buttons in their mind for me :)
03:31:17arspy87:)
03:42:04c0uttahey bluechip, thanks for your patience yesterday
03:42:40Bluechipalways welcome
03:43:18c0uttamy last problem is that the simulator starts up with c:\ as the root, not build-dir\archos
03:43:38Bluechipneed to install the win32sim patch
03:43:46c0uttai have :)
03:43:56BluechipOH!
03:44:13Bluechipworks just fine here!
03:44:18c0uttathe new configure checks to make sure that the folders are there (.rockbox, .rocks etc)
03:44:21Bluechipyou DID use the BUILD 8 version?
03:45:08c0uttayep, win32sim_8-20040101
03:45:34Bluechipmost weird :(
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05:25:41midknight2k3hi mcsquared
05:26:21mcsquaredhey midnight2k3
05:26:37midknight2k3its midknight2k3. don't wear it out.
05:26:40midknight2k3:) j/k
05:27:28mcsquaredhehe, yea sure. Was reading the logs, got interested in the new avOS machines... looks like u guys r u 2 some good stuff
05:27:44mcsquaredam toying w getting one
05:28:02midknight2k3noo
05:28:06mcsquaredthe idea of having an open dev platform is very enticing
05:28:07midknight2k3get a recorder 20
05:28:13midknight2k3yes
05:28:15midknight2k3try my clock plugin
05:28:19midknight2k3it's, very nice
05:28:30mcsquaredrecorder 20? :)
05:28:39mcsquaredi need a camera and TFT
05:28:49mcsquaredand ideally 802.11
05:28:55midknight2k3erm
05:29:01midknight2k3that means no open dev, atm
05:29:08midknight2k3BOO
05:29:15mcsquaredyea well... sometime hopefully :)
05:30:22midknight2k3booo
05:30:53mcsquaredany idea what's happened to that guy who was releasing stuff for the AVOS300 series?
05:31:07mcsquaredit looked like a lot of fun
05:31:22mcsquaredam trying to look up his name
05:31:47top_blokedogger
05:32:47midknight2k3DOGGER WOO
05:33:00midknight2k3hes in trubble
05:33:05midknight2k3http://avos.sf.net
05:34:01top_blokehttp links still open in IE
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05:34:17top_blokeand it cant find them
05:34:29mcsquaredahhh tx... I'd read http://avos.freshmeat.net- am reading about it now
05:35:52Strathheh
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05:36:41Strathnot so much that he's in trouble as it is archos being stupid (as usual)
05:37:00midknight2k3he i s in trubble
05:37:18mcsquaredtheir lawyers must think they've built a gaming console
05:37:32mcsquaredproly
05:38:07top_blokewhy would they think its a game console?
05:38:17Strathwhy do you say that?
05:38:17Strathmidi...
05:38:41midknight2k3?
05:38:48midknight2k3oh
05:38:50midknight2k3lol
05:38:53midknight2k3remeber the ding
05:38:54Strathhe's going right along with his work, just not releasing anything
05:38:56midknight2k3he is
05:39:02midknight2k3archos' stupidity no doubt
05:39:05midknight2k3well yeah
05:39:08mcsquaredie Archos h/w w other OSs = MS xbox + linus
05:39:08midknight2k3but hes still in trouble
05:39:17Strathyert...
05:39:18mcsquaredlinus=linux
05:39:24top_blokeo
05:39:34Strather, yet
05:39:35mcsquaredyea stupidity
05:39:36midknight2k3top: did you try my clock
05:39:55top_blokeyeah
05:39:57Strathhow so?
05:40:23Strathoh no he got *shock, horror* a LETTER
05:40:49top_blokeu sohuld put a stopwatch in it
05:41:11mcsquaredwell they are only cornering everyone into providing competing OSs to theirs...
05:41:13mcsquaredmaybe that's their strategy
05:41:35top_blokeits their choice
05:41:37mcsquaredso they can borrow the functionality back
05:41:49mcsquaredless dev work 4 them
05:42:07Strathit's not like they actually tried to protect the firmware
05:42:17mcsquaredhe
05:42:18Straththe protection is crap
05:42:40midknight2k3TOP: YOU HATE IT
05:42:57top_blokehate is such a strong word
05:43:10Strathso is pigfucker
05:43:27top_bloke?
05:43:36midknight2k3lmao
05:43:57top_blokealso cant u put the seconds on the same line in the anlog view?
05:44:05midknight2k3yes
05:44:08midknight2k3doesnt fit
05:44:16top_blokeit dont?
05:44:22midknight2k3nope
05:44:26top_blokeu try?
05:44:30Straththats what she said
05:44:30midknight2k3yes
05:44:37top_blokeso what if its over a lil bit
05:44:41midknight2k3?
05:44:45top_blokeover the tics
05:44:51midknight2k3its not fitting
05:44:54midknight2k3ok
05:44:57midknight2k3calm down
05:45:01top_blokeJEEZ
05:45:06Strathheh
05:45:11top_blokenah j/k
05:45:19top_blokejust some suggestions
05:45:34midknight2k3lol
05:45:37midknight2k3ONE
05:45:40midknight2k3that doesnt work
05:46:10top_blokejust put the seconds over the analog
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05:46:43midknight2k3MAN
05:46:46midknight2k3S T F U
05:46:49midknight2k3lol
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05:46:52Strathnice
05:47:06top_blokejeez
05:47:25Strathheh
05:47:25top_bloke well S O R R Y
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05:48:01top_blokenot my fault your clock is ugly
05:48:02midknight2k3its A L L R I G H T
05:48:08midknight2k3thats it
05:48:09top_blokelol
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05:48:28midknight2k3WHERES THE IGNORE BUTTON
05:48:28top_blokej/k
05:48:31midknight2k3i cant find it
05:48:35top_blokei knew it when i said it
05:48:36Strathwhould you guys stop that :P
05:48:38midknight2k3THEY NEED A BUTTON FOR EASY ACCESS
05:48:45midknight2k3I CANT FIND THE BUTTON
05:48:52top_bloke[IGNORE BLOKE]
05:49:02top_blokemake a custom button for easy access
05:49:08midknight2k3WTFITIB
05:49:40top_bloke?
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05:50:30Strathla la la
05:51:05top_blokethat was like 3 netsplits
05:51:32midknight2k35
05:51:34midknight2k3more like
05:51:50top_bloke5 realy?
05:52:05top_blokewell whatever
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06:39:37midknight2k3HI
06:39:38midknight2k3RASTUS
06:40:22rastusrastus is my alter-ego. i'm waiting for c0utta to die
06:40:36midknight2k3YOU WANNA DIE
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06:42:27c0uttaYEA WOO
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06:42:32midknight2k3sorry.
06:44:14dwihno\o/
06:44:21midknight2k3PROGRESS?!
06:44:25midknight2k3I WANT TO SEE
06:44:34midknight2k3DCC AJBREC FOR FM 2MB RAM 20GB
06:47:47dwihnoNo new progress really.
06:48:05dwihnoI've been busy doing nothing ;)
06:48:41midknight2k3i wish i could help
06:48:42midknight2k3i love it
06:52:41midknight2k3brb all
06:54:10dwihnoFeedback and ideas might help.
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07:41:07midknight2k3hi hi
07:41:13midknight2k3me?
07:41:15midknight2k3dwinho?
07:41:20midknight2k3i have feedback
07:41:32midknight2k3it ricjs
07:41:36midknight2k3rocks*
07:42:09midknight2k3but hmm lemme try it
07:42:58midknight2k3a new icon for: recording settings and Wake Up Alarm
07:43:20midknight2k3stretch out the last line on the 3 in "ID3" to the end of the icon would be AWESOME
07:43:45midknight2k3a few bugs in the sound menu, but very nice otherwise
07:45:06midknight2k3ohh for the recording settings icon it could be "REC" at the bottom as is, but instead of the dot have a hammer (like at the "general settings" icon) or maybe a wrench or.. you get the idea
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08:21:40midknight2k3any coders? dwinho? got a small issue
08:22:27midknight2k3a simple one
08:23:18midknight2k3erm nm
08:23:20midknight2k3fixed
08:25:43midknight2k3YESS
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08:47:32midknight2k3RB CODERS UNITE
08:47:34midknight2k3aka i need help
08:47:46midknight2k3do we have a status_update() function?
08:47:51midknight2k3or something to that effect>
08:47:57midknight2k3?*
08:48:26midknight2k3status_draw(true); may do it
08:48:27midknight2k3testing
08:49:00midknight2k3gr doesnt work
08:52:08midknight2k3YESS
08:52:12midknight2k3I FIXED IT
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10:16:34midknight2k3mcsquared yo
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10:51:41midknight2k3nite c0utta
10:51:45midknight2k3nite ze
10:52:18midknight2k3IGNORE ME. THAT'S FINE TOO
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13:37:02[IDC]DragonHi Bagder, do you read?
13:40:37Bagderyeps
13:40:51Bagderand hi! ;-)
13:42:55[IDC]DragonAh, hi!
13:43:11[IDC]DragonHappy new year!
13:43:50[IDC]DragonAbout the Neo addons:
13:44:06[IDC]DragonI have a build problem since.
13:44:23Bagderoh, with what?
13:44:28[IDC]DragonThe .lds file gets a bit garbled, the last part is repeated.
13:44:55[IDC]Dragonafter a clean build, I have to edit the file manually.
13:45:09Bagderodd
13:45:26[IDC]Dragonhave you done clean rebuilds since?
13:45:27Bagderhow is it garbled? I mean, in what way?
13:45:42[IDC]Dragona part of it is doubled.
13:47:00[IDC]Dragon(and the linker doesn't like that)
13:47:17BagderI can build a clean rebuild
13:48:22[IDC]DragonHmm.
13:48:38[IDC]DragonIt's linkages.lds which is corrupted.
13:48:53[IDC]DragonWhere is the template for that?
13:48:59Bagdersh-elf-gcc -DMEMORYSIZE=2 -I../firmware/include -I../firmware/export -I. -I/home/daniel/src/rockbox/build-recorder2 -DARCHOS_RECORDER -E -P - < ../firmware/app.lds >/home/daniel/src/rockbox/build-recorder2/linkage.lds
13:49:01[IDC]Dragonlinkage.lds, sorry
13:49:11Bagderfirmare/app.lds is the one
13:49:19Bagderfirmware
13:49:53Bagdertry that command line
13:50:57[IDC]Dragonhome/daniel/... ;)
13:51:04Bagderhehe
13:51:08Bagderwell, with the right paths
13:51:38Bagderif you remove linkage.lds
13:51:39Bagderand run make
13:51:49Bagderyou should be able to see what command line your makefile uses
13:51:57[IDC]Dragonyes.
13:52:09[IDC]DragonThe make says:
13:52:29[IDC]Dragonsh-elf-gcc -DMEMORYSIZE=8 -I../firmware/include -I../firmware/export -I. -I/hom
13:52:29[IDC]Dragone/Jörg/rockbox/build_rec8 -DARCHOS_RECORDER -E -P - < ../firmware/app.lds >/hom
13:52:29[IDC]Dragone/Jörg/rockbox/build_rec8/linkage.lds
13:52:29DBUGEnqueued KICK [IDC]Dragon
13:52:29[IDC]Dragoncpp0: warning: is shorter than expected
13:52:29[IDC]Dragon<stdin>:190:2: #endif without #if
13:52:29***Alert Mode level 1
13:52:29[IDC]Dragonmake[1]: *** [/home/Jörg/rockbox/build_rec8/linkage.lds] Error 1
13:53:36Bagderand you have an unaltered version of firmware/app.lfd?
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13:53:42Bagder.lds
13:54:06[IDC]DragonI think so, yes.
13:54:18Bagderyou're doing this with cygwin, right?
13:54:23[IDC]Dragonels cvs would show that every time
13:54:26[IDC]Dragonyes
13:55:46Bagderhm, I have an idea to try
13:57:19Bagderhttp://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/rockbox/apps/Makefile?r1=1.56&r2=1.57
13:57:27Bagdercheck the diff on lin 90
13:57:29Bagderline 90
13:57:47Bagderits for apps/Makefile
13:58:05Bagdertry putting back the version on the left hand side into your version of the apps/Makefile
13:58:18Bagderwith 'cat'
13:58:57Bagder cat $< | $(CC) -DMEMORYSIZE=$(MEM) $(INCLUDES) $(TARGET) $(DEFINES) -E -P - >$@
13:58:59Bagderactually
13:59:01[IDC]Dragon1.58 is the current
13:59:12[IDC]Dragonyou want me to use 1.56?
13:59:43Bagderno, just edit line 104 to be:
13:59:43Bagder cat $< | $(CC) -DMEMORYSIZE=$(MEM) $(INCLUDES) $(TARGET) $(DEFINES) -E -P - >$@
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14:00:11[IDC]Dragonoops, lunch NMI
14:00:15Bagdersorry for speaking weird ;-)
14:00:18[IDC]Dragonlater
14:00:29[IDC]Dragonafk
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14:19:02[IDC]DragonOK, back and stuffed
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14:22:32[IDC]DragonBagder: you were right, the duplication is gone
14:23:31Bagdergood
14:23:40BagderI blame cygwin
14:23:46Bagder:-)
14:23:57bazthis may be off topic
14:24:02[IDC]Dragonbut the build now fails for another reason
14:24:13bazbut anyone know a nice adsl modem that plugs into an ethernet nic?
14:24:28[IDC]Dragoncat ../firmware/app.lds | sh-elf-gcc -DMEMORYSIZE=8 -E -P - >/home/Jörg/rockbo
14:24:28[IDC]Dragonx/build_rec8/linkage.lds
14:24:28[IDC]Dragon<stdin>:1:20: config.h: No such file or directory
14:24:28[IDC]Dragonmake[1]: *** [/home/Jörg/rockbox/build_rec8/linkage.lds] Error 1
14:24:28[IDC]Dragonmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/Jörg/rockbox/apps'
14:24:29***Alert Mode level 1
14:24:29[IDC]Dragonmake: *** [apps] Error 2
14:25:15Bagderdid you use the $(INCLUDES) on that line 104?
14:25:39[IDC]DragonI used the line from 1.56, let me check
14:25:51Bagderthen add $(INCLUDES) on the line
14:26:00Bagderit was added after 1.56
14:26:34Bagdercat $< | $(CC) -DMEMORYSIZE=$(MEM) $(INCLUDES) $(TARGET) $(DEFINES) -E -P - >$@
14:27:50[IDC]Dragonlooks OK now
14:28:17[IDC]Dragonthis magic line runs the .lds file through the preprocessor, or what does it do?
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14:28:24Bagderyes, that's what it does
14:28:39Bagderand we now include "config.h" in the template
14:28:43Phil_Bagder! Nice to see you back!
14:28:47Bagderhey
14:28:51[IDC]DragonI vaguely remember that the cat was taken out recently, why?
14:29:09Bagder[IDC]Dragon: because some people had problems with it... :-/
14:29:24[IDC]Dragongreat, now I have problems without
14:29:25Bagdernow we put it back
14:29:26Bagderhehe
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14:29:46[IDC]Dragonwho are we breaking then?
14:29:54[IDC]Dragonshould I commit it?
14:30:18BagderI just did
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14:30:53Bagderit only breaks for those who has no cat in their path
14:31:46[IDC]Dragonhmm
14:32:10[IDC]Dragonwhat's the difference between the versions?
14:32:15Doggerhey
14:32:54Bagder[IDC]Dragon: there's no diff really, only using two different ways
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14:34:43[IDC]Dragon"bring back the cat", haha
14:35:11DoggerI have just worked out secret av300 ROM serial communication!
14:35:18[IDC]Dragonare there any reports if Rockbox runs on Neo?
14:35:21Doggernow I can recover from a bad firmware :)
14:35:40[IDC]Dragona UART boot
14:35:47[IDC]Dragonsound familiar
14:35:53[IDC]Dragonsounds
14:36:00Doggeryep
14:36:09Doggermakes it a lot easier to develop
14:36:15Doggerif you have a back door to recover
14:36:19Doggerif ur firmware crashes
14:36:24Doggernow I can get going!
14:36:41DoggerI'm pretty good at this really
14:36:47CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
14:36:47*Dogger 's head grows even bigger
14:37:06[IDC]Dragonand his ego...
14:37:23[IDC]DragonBagder: are there any reports if Rockbox runs on Neo?
14:37:29Bagderno
14:37:41Doggermy ego knows no bounds
14:37:44Bagderwe got a private mail from a fellow after my commits
14:37:50Bagderwho's working on a new neo platform
14:38:02Bagderhe says he intend to incorporate his changes back to rockbox
14:38:02[IDC]Dragonnew?
14:38:09Bagderyes, a new
14:38:18[IDC]Dragonfrom scratch?
14:38:34Bagderprobably not, but it isn't one of those available right now
14:42:35[IDC]Dragonthanks for the support, cu later
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14:42:56kurzhaarrockerBagder had a nice holiday?
14:43:09Bagderoh yes
14:43:11Bagderstill having! ;-)
14:43:25kurzhaarrockerFor how long?
14:43:32Bagderback to work on wednesday
14:43:51kurzhaarrockerI've got to be back tomorrow :(
14:45:14Bagderholidays are better than work
14:45:16Bagder:-)
14:46:09kurzhaarrockerWell actually I took some with me these holidays. And I didn't do enough of it...
14:47:01kurzhaarrockerHave you been away to some strange countries?
14:47:29Bagdernope, I got a daughter back in september so we're not doing anything like that yet
14:47:46kurzhaarrockerCongratulations!
14:47:49Bagderthanks
14:48:13Bagderthat's the main reason why I've been pretty absent from here
14:48:39kurzhaarrockerIs Zagor a father too, or is he the only core developer without children?
14:48:50Bagderhe's the only one now ;-)
14:49:00Bagderbut he's my kid brother
14:51:05kurzhaarrockerBut somehow I assume you don't have to change his pampers...
14:52:21Bagderthe baby alarm just went off, I need to run ;-)
14:52:31kurzhaarrocker:)
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17:44:57DjCartOOnhello =)
17:45:16DjCartOOnanybody here?
17:46:13DjCartOOni have a little problem with my FM recorder, anyone wants to help a newbie?
17:50:05DjCartOOni already read all the faq but it doesn't help me =(
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17:57:29DjCartOOnhello=)
17:57:33kurzhaarrockerhi
17:57:45DjCartOOnI'm a newbie, can you give me a hand?
17:58:02*kurzhaarrocker searches for a chainsaw to cut his hand off
17:58:15DjCartOOn@-0
17:58:36kurzhaarrockerWhat's your problem?
17:59:05DjCartOOni just recieved an Archis FM recorder I got from e-bay
17:59:53DjCartOOni have tried it with the original archos software and it was kind of working... now I've changed over to rockbox (and flashed).. but there seem to be some problems
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18:00:50kurzhaarrockerWhat problems?
18:00:50DjCartOOni cannot transfer data because it gives me a bluescreen error telling me the device isn't available anymore
18:01:21DjCartOOnif I try to make a scandisk, it tells me a cluster is damaged but cannot repair it, then my pc crashes
18:01:28DjCartOOn<−−- desperate
18:02:02kurzhaarrockerYou are using some kind of windows?
18:03:21DjCartOOnyupp... win 98 se
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18:04:05kurzhaarrockerok. Did you have little tiny icons in your task bar when the drive was connected?
18:04:25DjCartOOnyupp.. one that told me the usb disk was attached
18:04:58kurzhaarrockerok that means you have not that extremly old driver installed.
18:05:18kurzhaarrockerErm btw: does the FM recorder have usb2.0?
18:05:47DjCartOOnas far as i know, it should =)
18:06:06DjCartOOni didn't get the booklet with the recorder, it was used
18:07:41kurzhaarrockerAs far as I can see you might have one out of two problems:
18:07:42kurzhaarrocker1.) somehow your data on the recorder is heavily corrupted
18:07:42kurzhaarrocker2.) scandisk is right and the disk itself is faulty
18:07:57kurzhaarrockerIn case 1) a reformat might do.
18:08:56DjCartOOnhow do I reformat that? by simply telling format f:\ in the msdos proompt?
18:09:16kurzhaarrockermaybe you'd even want to fdisk first.
18:09:22kurzhaarrockerjust to make sure.
18:09:40kurzhaarrockerbut format f:\ is the right way, yes.
18:10:05kurzhaarrockerbefore reformatting though make sure your batteries are full
18:10:16DjCartOOnok, one more question: if i format it i'll loose all the data on it, this includdes the system files?
18:10:40kurzhaarrockerThe firmware doesn't use any system files.
18:11:12kurzhaarrockerAll data will be lost.
18:12:01DjCartOOnok.. is it the same if I connect the player to the power cable? I dunno the battery status at the moment
18:13:07kurzhaarrockerThe power cable doesn't really help here. While the unit is accessing the disk it draws more power than the power cable provides.
18:14:10kurzhaarrockerDoes the recorder still work with rockbox / original firmware?
18:14:21DjCartOOnok, once I formatted it the corrupted cluster should be marked automatically, right?
18:14:53kurzhaarrockerIf it is really is a physically corrputed cluster - yes.
18:15:19DjCartOOnyes but something funny happens.. like "ghost mp3s" coming out of nowhere.. like an mp3 that plays well on my hd becomes a totlayy different one on the player.. like there are some hidden files that swith with mine
18:17:03kurzhaarrockerHave you ever unplugged your drive without clicking on those tiny icons in the status bar?
18:17:22kurzhaarrockerstatus bar = task bar
18:17:31DjCartOOnhmmmm... may have happened once because my system crashed
18:18:44kurzhaarrockerWindows may delay writing to the disk. If you unplug before it has written everything the state of your drive is undefined or worse if you accidently unplug _while_ it is writing...
18:19:32kurzhaarrockerAt least that is the most frequent reason for faulty data on the jukebox drives
18:19:32DjCartOOnwell it usually gives me a bluescreen error at the end of the transfers, even if I didn't touch anything
18:20:03kurzhaarrockerOnce the data on the drive is corrupt anything can happen.
18:21:40DjCartOOn=) got it. Well i'll charge the batteries and then I'll try to format =)
18:21:59DjCartOOnthanks shorthairrocker =)
18:22:04kurzhaarrocker:)
18:22:09DjCartOOnU german?
18:22:13kurzhaarrockeryes
18:22:17DjCartOOndachte ich =)
18:22:33kurzhaarrockerWhere are you from?
18:23:11*kurzhaarrocker comes from Dortmund
18:23:59DjCartOOnis half from florence, half from berlin
18:24:55DjCartOOnwhat does it mean if you see the usb icon on the rockbox but you don't have the tiny disk icon?
18:25:28kurzhaarrockerThat means that the drivers on your computer aren't installed properly
18:25:40kurzhaarrockerTry to un- and reinstall in that case.
18:26:02DjCartOOnokie =)
18:26:21DjCartOOni'll do both the format and the installing... maybe it's a combination of both =)
18:26:30kurzhaarrockerCould be
18:27:40DjCartOOnwell danke kurzhaarocker und noch ein glücliches nues jahr!!!
18:27:52kurzhaarrockerThe same for you
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19:31:24Bluechipevenin' all
19:31:50diddystar5hi Bluechip
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20:08:47uskiany Eagle user out there ?
20:09:22uskii can't figure out how to make a groundplane :\
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20:12:51Bluechipwhat are you trying to do?
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20:21:02uskiBluechip: i want to make a groundplane
20:21:09Bluechipuse a radiator
20:21:15uskiEagle can do this automatically, can't it ?
20:21:37uskia radiator ?
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20:25:08DjCartOOnhi there! anyone here?
20:25:35Bluechipuski: yes any radiator in your house - rub off some paint and use the bare metal as your groundplane
20:26:17DjCartOOnhi bluechip =)
20:26:42diddystar5hi DjCartOOn
20:26:48DjCartOOnhi diddystar
20:27:16DjCartOOni just receieved my archos fm recorder and did all the rockbox conversions... neat!!!! =)
20:27:43Bluechiphi Dj
20:28:01uskiBluechip: hmmm, i meant a groundplane on a PCB :)
20:29:21DjCartOOnanyone wants to pant his jukebox new?
20:29:27DjCartOOnpant=paInt
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23:28:32edxIs it possible to modify the archos so that no batteries are needed and the whole thing can completely be charger-driven?
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23:29:05[IDC]Dragonyes, if you need no HD ;)
23:29:30edxargh
23:29:37edxI want to mod it to an external hd :p
23:30:59edxcan't that be done somehow?
23:31:28scott666edx: it seems like it should be, but how easy it will be to do is another question
23:31:47edx:|
23:31:50edxtoo sad
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