| 00:00:02 | LinusN | JN-Computer: hi |
| 00:00:05 | JN-Computer | i have a problem compiling rockbox 2.1 on the windows xp platform |
| 00:00:21 | Zagor | JN-Computer: are you using cygwin? |
| 00:00:31 | [IDC]Dragon | that should work the way it is |
| 00:00:53 | JN-Computer | i am missing the "recorder v2" render target in the win32.mak makefile |
| 00:01:08 | LinusN | JN-Computer: use cygwin |
| 00:01:20 | JN-Computer | i'm using kpit's gnush |
| 00:02:03 | LinusN | we strongly advice you to use cygwin instead |
| 00:02:14 | JN-Computer | i aready compiled it for recorder 20 successfully |
| 00:02:25 | JN-Computer | but i failed for the recorder v2 |
| 00:02:47 | JN-Computer | the makefile win32.mak seems to be too old |
| 00:02:52 | Bagder | JN-Computer: no one maintains that file |
| 00:03:00 | Bagder | that is a dead end you're persuing |
| 00:03:13 | Bagder | or |
| 00:03:21 | Bagder | you get to make the pieces fit |
| 00:03:38 | LinusN | Zagor, Bagder: let's remove the links to gnush from our www docs |
| 00:03:44 | Zagor | yeah |
| 00:03:50 | * | Bagder agrees |
| 00:04:02 | LinusN | cygwin is the way to go |
| 00:04:41 | Zagor | done |
| 00:05:07 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN: how should we proceed about the playtime which is handled in dma_tick()? |
| 00:05:29 | [IDC]Dragon | id3tags[tag_read_idx]->id3.elapsed += ... |
| 00:05:46 | [IDC]Dragon | we don't want that if playing from mem |
| 00:05:55 | Zagor | JN-Computer: you can probably fix it relatively easy yourself if you want to keep using it. just add the v2 target like the others. |
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| 00:07:28 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: either we use a pointer, or we apply a separate time counter. i prefer the latter |
| 00:07:43 | [IDC]Dragon | I sketched a function instead which returns the measured playtime. |
| 00:07:50 | LinusN | good |
| 00:08:07 | LinusN | with a timer_reset() function as well? |
| 00:08:09 | [IDC]Dragon | But that doesn't directly blast it into the id3 struct. |
| 00:08:25 | LinusN | it doesn't need to be there |
| 00:08:29 | [IDC]Dragon | So we could introduce a tick function for that, |
| 00:08:43 | [IDC]Dragon | or query the value when needed. |
| 00:10:18 | LinusN | i think the mpeg tick irq should update a static variable, read an reset by mpeg_playtime() and mpeg_playtime_reset() |
| 00:10:52 | LinusN | remove id3.elapsed and let the wps call the mpeg_playtime() function instead |
| 00:11:34 | [IDC]Dragon | OK. The tick doesn't need to update a static, we only need to keep track of play and pause. |
| 00:11:42 | LinusN | or rather mp3_play_elapsed() or whatever we decide to call it |
| 00:12:32 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: i think you should commit small changes |
| 00:12:56 | [IDC]Dragon | in general, right now, or what? |
| 00:13:24 | LinusN | working for days and committing huge changes in lots of files is not good imho |
| 00:13:42 | LinusN | in general, if applicable |
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| 00:13:48 | [IDC]Dragon | I just wound it back |
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| 00:14:18 | LinusN | yeah, i know |
| 00:14:30 | [IDC]Dragon | the first split had to touch many files by nature |
| 00:14:48 | [IDC]Dragon | most were just #include addons |
| 00:15:46 | Bagder | night! |
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| 00:16:06 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: i know you had to do that huge commit |
| 00:16:37 | LinusN | but from now on, it may be easier to commit the changes incrementally |
| 00:17:00 | LinusN | makes it easier for me and others to keep track of the changes |
| 00:17:05 | [IDC]Dragon | sure, won't affect so many any more |
| 00:17:24 | LinusN | and easier to revert if something goes bad |
| 00:18:13 | LinusN | it'll be real fun to add sound effects to tetris :-) |
| 00:19:03 | [IDC]Dragon | ;) |
| 00:19:17 | [IDC]Dragon | chip8 also has a beep opcode |
| 00:20:32 | [IDC]Dragon | The sim builds always bite me because I don't test that.. Can I build them from cygwin? |
| 00:24:00 | LinusN | yes of course |
| 00:24:55 | [IDC]Dragon | the make down there, or create one with the configure tool? |
| 00:25:14 | track | would ot overstrain the buffer to have sounds for ch8 or rvf files? |
| 00:25:47 | [IDC]Dragon | sorry? |
| 00:26:03 | [IDC]Dragon | you mean, the 32k os too small? |
| 00:26:09 | [IDC]Dragon | is too |
| 00:26:18 | track | since the buffer is used for the video playback would there be enough RAM to house the sounds as well? |
| 00:26:22 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: just use the configure script |
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| 00:26:37 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN: OK, I'll try |
| 00:27:10 | [IDC]Dragon | track: we can copy the sounds from disk into the large mp3 buffer |
| 00:27:33 | track | ok |
| 00:27:47 | track | i just thought the buffer was also used for the video playback |
| 00:28:04 | [IDC]Dragon | video uses only a small buffer |
| 00:28:21 | track | ok |
| 00:28:52 | [IDC]Dragon | but a+v is different then games |
| 00:29:32 | track | man i couldn't wish for anything else other than my recorder |
| 00:29:33 | track | :-) |
| 00:32:28 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN: would that be Win32 or X11 for cygwin? |
| 00:34:55 | LinusN | win32 |
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| 00:40:26 | JN-Computer | hello again |
| 00:40:35 | JN-Computer | just tried out cygwin |
| 00:40:55 | JN-Computer | it worked !! thanks for the advice |
| 00:40:59 | Zagor | excellent |
| 00:41:14 | JN-Computer | didn't know that it's that easy |
| 00:41:34 | JN-Computer | i tinkered around with gnush for hours |
| 00:41:47 | JN-Computer | with little success |
| 00:42:03 | Zagor | well it did say cygwin was recommended :-) |
| 00:42:10 | JN-Computer | THANKS :-)) |
| 00:42:23 | JN-Computer | long live ARCHOS |
| 00:42:52 | Zagor | rockbox, anyway ;) |
| 00:43:03 | JN-Computer | still can't believe why the original archos firmware is so crappy |
| 00:43:23 | JN-Computer | if ARCHOS applied you, ... |
| 00:43:24 | JN-Computer | hihi |
| 00:44:08 | JN-Computer | jukebox is worthless without rockbox |
| 00:44:17 | * | LinusN blushes |
| 00:45:16 | JN-Computer | you're really geniuses here |
| 00:46:04 | JN-Computer | will you get hands on the MAS documents someday |
| 00:46:13 | JN-Computer | to reprogram the DSP |
| 00:46:23 | JN-Computer | is there a chance anyway ?? |
| 00:46:37 | JN-Computer | mp3pro would be cool |
| 00:46:38 | track | I still believe the mas is unprogrammable as the MP3 decoder is "hard-coded" in the chip |
| 00:46:41 | Zagor | there's not a lot it can do anyway |
| 00:46:55 | JN-Computer | ok |
| 00:47:08 | Dogger | hey zagor? |
| 00:47:12 | Zagor | yup |
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| 00:50:03 | track | Zagor if Archos know how much better your firmware is why isn't it mentioned on their website, or offered for download on their website? |
| 00:50:17 | Zagor | why are you asking me? |
| 00:50:43 | JN-Computer | archos builds great hardware, but their software sucks a lot |
| 00:50:48 | track | because I asked Archos before and I get the same stupid automated response |
| 00:51:44 | track | I still wonder what causes that faint buzzing sound on the Archos F/W |
| 00:52:02 | JN-Computer | what does F/W mean |
| 00:52:09 | JN-Computer | (i'm german ;-) ) |
| 00:52:30 | track | firmware |
| 00:52:32 | track | abbreaviation |
| 00:52:35 | JN-Computer | thx |
| 00:52:46 | JN-Computer | i know that buzzing sound |
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| 00:52:59 | track | yea I wonder what causes it on the Archos side of things |
| 00:53:15 | JN-Computer | rockbox eliminates the buzz |
| 00:53:24 | JN-Computer | has to be a software issue |
| 00:53:41 | track | yea i know |
| 00:54:03 | JN-Computer | perhaps bad programming of cpu/mas/ram workflow |
| 00:54:22 | JN-Computer | bad irq usage |
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| 00:55:00 | JN-Computer | had similar problems with my pc (soundcard) |
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| 00:57:24 | JN-Computer | i think the mpeg buffer isn't used optimally in rockbox 2.1 |
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| 00:57:49 | [IDC]Dragon | goodnight! |
| 00:57:57 | JN-Computer | disk spins up too early to reload mp3 data |
| 00:57:58 | LinusN | JN-Computer: why di you think that? |
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| 00:58:37 | LinusN | JN-Computer: we have spent lots of work optimizing the buffer algorithm |
| 00:59:09 | LinusN | but yes, there may be more tweaks to be made |
| 00:59:20 | JN-Computer | i watched the mpeg thread in developers section of rockbox |
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| 01:00:04 | JN-Computer | and i think the disk spins up a bit too early |
| 01:00:37 | JN-Computer | there still something left in the buffer which should be played to save energy |
| 01:00:49 | JN-Computer | and then the disk should spinup |
| 01:01:20 | LinusN | we still want a margin for read errors, like when you shake the jukebox |
| 01:01:44 | JN-Computer | i think this margin in rockbox 2.1 is too big |
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| 01:01:53 | LinusN | and was this a VBR or CBR stream? |
| 01:01:56 | midknight2k3 | he earhurts |
| 01:02:00 | midknight2k3 | hi linus |
| 01:02:00 | JN-Computer | CBR |
| 01:02:02 | midknight2k3 | hi track |
| 01:02:05 | midknight2k3 | hi zagor |
| 01:02:27 | LinusN | JN-Computer: you may be right, i'll look into it |
| 01:02:29 | JN-Computer | i tested it with 160 kbps mp3 |
| 01:02:39 | JN-Computer | my margin is 5 pixels |
| 01:02:56 | JN-Computer | and i can walk without dinterruption |
| 01:03:17 | LinusN | pixels? |
| 01:03:27 | LinusN | how about bytes? |
| 01:03:35 | JN-Computer | pixels of the mpeg-thread-bar |
| 01:03:49 | track | hey midknight |
| 01:03:50 | LinusN | i know, but i'm more interested in the bytes |
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| 01:04:41 | midknight2k3 | Seen the new Menu R edesign patch? Sounds pretty nice |
| 01:04:49 | track | yo midknight |
| 01:06:37 | JN-Computer | 60000 bytes |
| 01:06:48 | JN-Computer | 58,6 kb |
| 01:07:37 | Zagor | that's less than 2s at 256kbit |
| 01:08:13 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 01:08:32 | JN-Computer | needs dynamic allocation, should be 3 seconds of music |
| 01:08:50 | JN-Computer | i don't have any interruption |
| 01:08:54 | LinusN | needs dynamic allocation? |
| 01:09:04 | JN-Computer | the size of the boundary |
| 01:09:07 | JN-Computer | yes |
| 01:09:18 | LinusN | i suggest you read the code first |
| 01:09:25 | Zagor | it is dynamic. those three seconds have an immesurable impact on your battery life. |
| 01:09:29 | LinusN | it is dynamic |
| 01:09:45 | Zagor | a gap in playback, though, is very much noticable |
| 01:10:15 | Zagor | 3s is a pretty good margin. i'm surprised we're even that close. |
| 01:10:53 | Zagor | try some different bitrates and you'll see the dynamics in effect |
| 01:10:56 | JN-Computer | i wouldn't shake the jukebox much either |
| 01:11:06 | JN-Computer | lost one harddisk already |
| 01:11:21 | Zagor | that's not the point |
| 01:11:26 | LinusN | JN-Computer: the margin is calculated from the spinup time of the hard drive, which may differ between spinups |
| 01:11:56 | LinusN | also, reading a fragmented file takes longer |
| 01:12:10 | LinusN | so we need a margin |
| 01:12:34 | midknight2k3 | LinusN: I am planning to update my clock tomorrow and fix a few bugs. I'll send it to you when I'm done, shall I? |
| 01:12:41 | LinusN | do so |
| 01:12:58 | midknight2k3 | okay |
| 01:16:16 | Zagor | bed time. bye. |
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| 01:16:57 | JN-Computer | i simply modified "static void recalculate_watermark(int bitrate)" |
| 01:17:16 | JN-Computer | and "void mpeg_set_buffer_margin(int seconds)" functions in mpeg.c |
| 01:17:26 | JN-Computer | to optimize the margin |
| 01:17:38 | JN-Computer | works great for me ! |
| 01:17:49 | JN-Computer | no skipping either |
| 01:18:01 | JN-Computer | even in the car / walking etc |
| 01:21:17 | LinusN | JN-Computer: you removed the *3 multiplication? |
| 01:22:18 | JN-Computer | give me your e-mail adress, i'll send the mod to you |
| 01:22:23 | LinusN | and why change mpeg_set_buffer_margin()? |
| 01:22:27 | JN-Computer | as a text file |
| 01:22:42 | LinusN | send it to linus at haxx.se |
| 01:22:53 | JN-Computer | linus@haxx.se |
| 01:22:59 | JN-Computer | correct ? |
| 01:23:12 | LinusN | guess why i obfuscated the address? |
| 01:23:23 | LinusN | now i'll have to edit the log by hand :-( |
| 01:23:24 | JN-Computer | eehh |
| 01:23:46 | LinusN | but yes, that's correct |
| 01:27:29 | JN-Computer | have sent it to you, linus. |
| 01:27:36 | JN-Computer | must be there soon. |
| 01:32:36 | midknight2k3 | linus? |
| 01:32:47 | midknight2k3 | seen the new patch for revised menus? |
| 01:32:51 | midknight2k3 | i think it sounds great |
| 01:38:39 | JN-Computer | you're right, linus - i've removed the *3 multiplication |
| 01:38:48 | JN-Computer | looked that up now |
| 01:39:25 | JN-Computer | and set time=350 in all cases |
| 01:40:41 | LinusN | time=350 in all cases is just plain silly |
| 01:41:05 | LinusN | the whole point is to calculate it from the disk spinup time |
| 01:41:46 | JN-Computer | ok, but the *3 multiplication |
| 01:42:09 | JN-Computer | is just wasting precious space |
| 01:42:21 | LinusN | the multiplication can probably be removed, and should be replaced by a constant margin instead |
| 01:42:44 | JN-Computer | maybe yes |
| 01:43:23 | LinusN | on the other hand, that's what set_buffer_margin is for... |
| 01:43:59 | JN-Computer | i've tried on my jukebox rec 20 without *3 multiplication - works perfect |
| 01:44:00 | LinusN | i saw that *3 multiplication a few days ago, and i couldn't remember why i did that |
| 01:44:03 | JN-Computer | even in car / walking |
| 01:44:33 | LinusN | you must remember that there are great differences between different devices |
| 01:44:51 | LinusN | you are obviously one of the firtunate ones |
| 01:44:55 | LinusN | fortunate |
| 01:45:09 | JN-Computer | in a shaky environment, one can enable the anti-skip-buffer |
| 01:45:21 | JN-Computer | if there are interruptions in playback |
| 01:45:31 | LinusN | yup |
| 01:46:34 | JN-Computer | ok, you have to write the firmware that it works on all devices |
| 01:46:55 | JN-Computer | and there are models with slow hard disks perhaps |
| 01:47:14 | JN-Computer | but i think a constant would be better than * 3 |
| 01:47:25 | LinusN | indeed |
| 01:47:48 | LinusN | i'll fix that, thanks for pointing that out |
| 01:48:12 | JN-Computer | ok |
| 01:48:36 | JN-Computer | i think the anti-skip-buffer can play the role of that constant |
| 01:49:13 | JN-Computer | if one regognizes interruptions, simply raise anti-skip by 1 second or so |
| 01:49:14 | LinusN | yup |
| 01:49:55 | JN-Computer | so people in quiet environment can optimize for long battery life |
| 01:50:14 | JN-Computer | and people in shaky environments optimize on stability |
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| 01:51:00 | JN-Computer | by the price of shorter battery life due to additional spinups |
| 01:51:13 | JN-Computer | ok, thaks for listening |
| 01:51:36 | LinusN | thanks for looking into it |
| 01:51:40 | JN-Computer | ;-) |
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| 02:03:43 | elinenbe | maybe someone here can help me. I want to compile the cimulator under cygwin for windows 2000 −− what packages do I need to download install and configure through cygwin to make this work... |
| 02:05:13 | LinusN | gcc |
| 02:05:29 | LinusN | and make |
| 02:05:40 | LinusN | maybe perl |
| 02:05:48 | elinenbe | is that all, because I have both of those, but it does not work. |
| 02:05:56 | LinusN | "does not work" |
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| 02:06:57 | LinusN | compile error? |
| 02:07:00 | LinusN | crash? |
| 02:07:14 | LinusN | dancing goblins on the screen? |
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| 02:20:43 | hardeep | elinenbe: you need the packages listed in http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-08/0319.shtml |
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| 02:20:59 | hardeep | elinenbe: re: building cygwin simulator |
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| 02:23:28 | MT | gcc-mingw as well iirc |
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| 04:05:48 | Stevenm | Hey people |
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| 04:07:12 | Stevenm | If the archos batteris are 1.2V 1500mAh cells, then why does Rockbox show a charge level of below 100% when the battery voltage is 4.8V ? |
| 04:09:03 | MT | with the charger connected? |
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| 04:39:01 | Stevenm | oops |
| 04:39:09 | Stevenm | back |
| 04:39:16 | Stevenm | Yea I am getting some odd voltage readings |
| 04:39:24 | Stevenm | 5.09V and battery meter: 55% |
| 04:39:53 | Stevenm | and if the batteries are 1.2V, then why isn't the 100% voltage set at 4.8V? What's the big idea? |
| 04:40:27 | Stevenm | furthermore, at this voltage, the archos firmware reports the battery being 100% full |
| 04:40:37 | Stevenm | (or at least showing 3 bars) |
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| 09:29:48 | midhaarrocker | moin again :) |
| 09:29:53 | LinusN | hi |
| 09:30:24 | LinusN | when you get old, will your nick be baldrocker? |
| 09:30:41 | midhaarrocker | I hope I don't get that old. |
| 09:30:54 | LinusN | :-) |
| 09:32:48 | LinusN | i'm about to commit craig's record-to-current-dir patch |
| 09:33:14 | LinusN | but i want to have the option to record to a specific dir as well |
| 09:33:16 | midhaarrocker | hooray! A small but -extremly- important improvement! |
| 09:33:22 | LinusN | how about /recordings |
| 09:33:25 | LinusN | ? |
| 09:34:14 | LinusN | so either you record to the current dir, or to /recordings |
| 09:34:25 | midhaarrocker | If you want to suit my needs there would be /recordings dir in which a subdir is created based on the date, In that subdir the recording with timestamp as name. |
| 09:35:03 | midhaarrocker | like /recordings/2004_01_28/14_32_56.mp3 |
| 09:35:05 | LinusN | you will hate it when you do nightly recordings :-) |
| 09:35:23 | midhaarrocker | :) |
| 09:36:22 | midhaarrocker | Well if we have that record-to-current-dir it will be almost just as fine. And /recordings is fine, too. |
| 09:36:52 | LinusN | i think i'll start with /recordings and current dir |
| 09:37:02 | midhaarrocker | right so |
| 09:40:50 | midhaarrocker | Lol! Zagor recommends to run the worst case! :) |
| 09:46:59 | LinusN | of course |
| 09:53:49 | midhaarrocker | That §&$ trigger for splitting gives me harder times than expected. grr. |
| 09:54:02 | LinusN | hehe, what is the prob now? |
| 09:54:45 | midhaarrocker | Assume it has alredy triggered, something was recorded and now the signal has fallen below the stop threshold but the hold time has not expired yet. |
| 09:55:10 | midhaarrocker | Now the signal rises again, exceeds the stop threshold but not yet the start threshold |
| 09:55:49 | midhaarrocker | Normally I'd say when the signal exceeds the stop threshold the recording should continue without split. |
| 09:56:21 | midhaarrocker | But a signal for triggering a split usually first crosses the stop threshold and _then_ the start threshold. |
| 09:57:22 | LinusN | but isn't it always a threshold and a hold time? |
| 09:58:24 | LinusN | you have different conditions for splitting than for start/stop? |
| 09:59:07 | LinusN | so you have a "grey zone" between the stop and the start thresholds? |
| 09:59:13 | midhaarrocker | Of course I want to recycle the start conditions as split conditions. But one parameter had to be added: a minimal post-gap. |
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| 09:59:37 | midhaarrocker | grey zone, yes |
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| 10:00:20 | midhaarrocker | I think I'll simply reuse the dropout time of the start trigger as a attack time for the split trigger. |
| 10:00:54 | LinusN | i think you should decice what the split point really is |
| 10:01:26 | LinusN | either it is the stop point of the previous song, or the start point of the next |
| 10:01:28 | LinusN | which is it? |
| 10:01:50 | midhaarrocker | the latter. I don't think anyone wants music to start with silence. |
| 10:01:57 | LinusN | or should it be two point, cutting away the silence in between? |
| 10:02:49 | midhaarrocker | I think I should explain the whole system first, otherwise there'll me many misunderstandigs. |
| 10:04:23 | LinusN | send me the README |
| 10:04:40 | midhaarrocker | I think I should write one :) |
| 10:04:59 | LinusN | if you write it well, we can just paste it into the manual later |
| 10:06:27 | *** | No seen item changed, no save performed. |
| 10:13:49 | LinusN | regarding the recording, i'm thinking of a setting, "recording dir" which can be either "Default" or "Current dir" |
| 10:14:05 | LinusN | where "Default" is /recording |
| 10:14:26 | LinusN | /recordings |
| 10:14:44 | midhaarrocker | If the default dir can not be modifed - why not display the dir name instead of default? |
| 10:15:26 | midhaarrocker | so it would be "/recordings" and "Current dir" |
| 10:15:29 | LinusN | i was thinking of that, but if we change the default dir name, the .cfg file would be incompatible |
| 10:15:40 | LinusN | maybe that isn't much of a problem |
| 10:16:35 | midhaarrocker | It's just that I feat questions like "Where can I set the default dir?" ... |
| 10:16:43 | midhaarrocker | feat = fear |
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| 10:21:58 | LinusN | so maybe we should have "current" or "custom" instead? |
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| 10:22:26 | midhaarrocker | with custom a user definable dir? |
| 10:22:41 | LinusN | yes, but i'll go for "/recordings" and "current" for now |
| 10:23:06 | midhaarrocker | People will like it! |
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| 10:54:40 | needhelp | hi |
| 10:54:56 | midhaarrocker | hi |
| 10:55:01 | needhelp | i recorded a large set |
| 10:55:12 | needhelp | but i cant edit it |
| 10:55:29 | needhelp | cause header seems to be defect |
| 10:55:35 | LinusN | which editor? |
| 10:55:39 | needhelp | usede rockbox 2.1 |
| 10:55:43 | needhelp | cool edit |
| 10:55:55 | LinusN | i bet cool edit can't read ID3V2.4 tags |
| 10:55:56 | needhelp | i cant play it in winamp |
| 10:56:07 | needhelp | winamp too? |
| 10:56:11 | LinusN | what does winamp say |
| 10:56:32 | needhelp | winamp says its 427 min long |
| 10:56:43 | needhelp | bit only plays the first 15 |
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| 10:56:56 | LinusN | and it doesn't play? |
| 10:57:05 | LinusN | ok, the file seems to be corrupt |
| 10:57:18 | needhelp | hm wm9 plays it |
| 10:57:27 | needhelp | my jukebox plays it |
| 10:57:36 | LinusN | how long is the recording (in minutes)? |
| 10:58:11 | needhelp | 427 min |
| 10:58:20 | LinusN | ok, file size? |
| 10:58:31 | needhelp | 523 mb |
| 10:59:02 | LinusN | i suggest this: |
| 10:59:25 | LinusN | 1) Find a tool called fixvbr (or vbrfix, i don't remember) |
| 10:59:39 | LinusN | 2) Run it and see if it finds any error in the file |
| 10:59:49 | needhelp | have it |
| 10:59:56 | LinusN | 3) Run scandisk on your jukebox |
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| 11:00:27 | LinusN | do you happen to know the cluster size on your jukebox? |
| 11:00:57 | needhelp | vbr fix says change in mpeg version found |
| 11:01:09 | needhelp | standard one |
| 11:01:54 | LinusN | ok, so the file is corrupt |
| 11:02:32 | needhelp | so what to do? |
| 11:02:37 | LinusN | i wish i knew why this happens |
| 11:02:58 | LinusN | well, can vbrfix remove the garbage? |
| 11:02:58 | needhelp | sometimes happens with long files in vbr |
| 11:03:17 | LinusN | how far into the file does this happen? |
| 11:03:18 | needhelp | no |
| 11:03:26 | needhelp | first 15 min |
| 11:03:36 | LinusN | in bytes? |
| 11:04:22 | needhelp | 18146365 |
| 11:04:25 | needhelp | bytes |
| 11:04:34 | needhelp | than mp3cutter stops reading |
| 11:05:19 | LinusN | but the rest of the file is ok? |
| 11:05:35 | needhelp | think so its playable in wm9 |
| 11:05:43 | needhelp | and on jukebox itselt |
| 11:06:11 | LinusN | can you put up the first 20megs of that file for me to download somewhere? |
| 11:06:41 | needhelp | sure |
| 11:06:49 | needhelp | or by dcc? |
| 11:07:32 | LinusN | we can try dcc |
| 11:07:41 | LinusN | my firewall may not allow it though |
| 11:09:13 | needhelp | ok i just upload it to my ftp |
| 11:10:12 | LinusN | great |
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| 13:38:44 | quelsaruk | hi |
| 13:38:45 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 13:38:53 | quelsaruk | rockbox site is down?? |
| 13:39:23 | midhaarrocker | :'C |
| 13:39:29 | midhaarrocker | you're right |
| 13:39:40 | quelsaruk | ouch |
| 13:40:35 | quelsaruk | and no-one has the link to the mail where [idc]dragon explained how to make videos, no? |
| 13:40:45 | quelsaruk | my brother asked me that :( |
| 13:43:37 | midhaarrocker | Linus: Maybe http://www.carangg.de/trigger_readme.txt shows you what I mean... |
| 13:43:43 | LinusN | hang on, we are working on it |
| 13:44:03 | LinusN | should work now |
| 13:44:27 | midhaarrocker | yea! Hooray! |
| 13:48:47 | Dogger | just got my av300 HDD to spin up, and got ATA status ok :) |
| 13:48:55 | Dogger | woo! will have this bootloader done soon |
| 13:49:29 | quelsaruk | Dogger :) |
| 13:52:20 | midhaarrocker | And he didn't eve use any goats yet! |
| 13:54:12 | quelsaruk | hehehe |
| 13:54:33 | quelsaruk | because he had to pay a lot for author's rights ;) |
| 13:54:46 | quelsaruk | i'm the only official techno-priest :P |
| 13:55:20 | quelsaruk | lunch time! |
| 13:55:25 | quelsaruk | cu later! |
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| 14:14:27 | c0utta | guys, do we have a general function that returns true/false based upon user input ? |
| 14:14:45 | c0utta | like "Do you want to Delete ? Yes/No" |
| 14:18:15 | midhaarrocker | c0utta: I know none |
| 14:18:15 | midhaarrocker | LinusN: I'm not sure wether you understood me right with the link I posted: It concerns the trigger settings, not the web site dropout. |
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| 14:19:48 | LinusN | midhaarrocker: i know, i'm just busy atm |
| 14:20:58 | LinusN | midhaarrocker: you are the king of ascii art! :-) |
| 14:21:13 | midhaarrocker | I just hope it explains things... :) |
| 14:21:51 | midhaarrocker | Be busy as long as you want - If everything works out I can provide code on saturday night... |
| 14:24:06 | LinusN | nice |
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| 15:52:58 | plm_flashed_reco | Hi at all |
| 15:53:14 | plm_flashed_reco | test |
| 15:53:43 | plm_flashed_reco | somebody there ?? |
| 15:54:25 | Dogger | somebody is |
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| 15:58:16 | plm | i |
| 15:58:48 | midhaarrocker | j |
| 15:59:32 | plm | hi |
| 15:59:37 | plm | you can read me ? |
| 15:59:57 | midhaarrocker | Only what you write, not what your mind |
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| 16:00:12 | plm | I want to speak about a very very great bug |
| 16:00:25 | plm | maybe it is know, but i don't think so |
| 16:01:02 | plm | it is about the archos recorder flashed version |
| 16:01:42 | plm | this probleme happened to me two times |
| 16:02:01 | plm | somebody read me ? |
| 16:02:06 | webmind | yeah |
| 16:02:07 | plm | oh he.... |
| 16:02:14 | plm | a yes :) |
| 16:02:16 | webmind | although it's hard to parse your english |
| 16:02:25 | plm | i know :( |
| 16:02:31 | plm | i'm french in fact |
| 16:02:37 | * | midhaarrocker still waits for the bug description. |
| 16:02:49 | plm | so try again to explain me |
| 16:02:52 | webmind | plm, poor you.. but please continue |
| 16:03:00 | plm | yes |
| 16:03:09 | plm | so .... the bug is |
| 16:03:17 | plm | when your disconnect |
| 16:03:27 | plm | your archos from your pc |
| 16:03:56 | plm | without turn it off |
| 16:04:11 | plm | so ALL YOUR DATA IS CLEARED |
| 16:04:23 | midhaarrocker | That's not a rockbox bug but a user mistake |
| 16:04:35 | plm | NO |
| 16:04:37 | plm | because |
| 16:04:38 | midhaarrocker | You must klick the disconnect icon in the status bar first to eject your drive. |
| 16:04:41 | plm | before |
| 16:04:45 | plm | yes i do it |
| 16:04:52 | plm | i eject it |
| 16:04:56 | midhaarrocker | ok. |
| 16:04:56 | plm | properly |
| 16:05:00 | midhaarrocker | What data is cleared? |
| 16:05:13 | plm | yes |
| 16:05:15 | midhaarrocker | Settings? files ereased? |
| 16:05:16 | plm | in fact |
| 16:05:23 | plm | the fat is altered |
| 16:05:34 | plm | and when you plug again |
| 16:05:46 | plm | the archos |
| 16:06:03 | plm | all data are not accessible |
| 16:06:19 | midhaarrocker | the files on the disk? |
| 16:06:26 | plm | yes |
| 16:06:31 | plm | the archos disk |
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| 16:06:40 | midhaarrocker | Doesn't happen with me. Have you run scandisk on it? |
| 16:06:50 | plm | yes |
| 16:06:55 | midhaarrocker | No errors found? |
| 16:07:02 | plm | partion magic 8 |
| 16:07:09 | plm | Too errors to be recovered |
| 16:07:17 | plm | <= it says to me |
| 16:08:03 | plm | so i use a data recovery software ( ESS maybe you know ) |
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| 16:08:29 | midhaarrocker | Hm. If you have backuped your data - have you tried to repartition / format the drive? |
| 16:09:02 | plm | and after more than 5 hoours i can acces again a great part of my songs... |
| 16:09:06 | plm | yes i treid |
| 16:09:23 | midhaarrocker | So reformat doesn't help? Strange. |
| 16:09:32 | plm | i tried to repartition / format and the archos is ok now |
| 16:09:39 | plm | but with no data... |
| 16:10:24 | midhaarrocker | formatting a drive deletes all data. |
| 16:10:32 | plm | the problem is that it is not possible to turn off tha archos when it is plug to the pc and when it is charging |
| 16:11:02 | plm | it is the reason why after eject it properly i disconnect usb cable |
| 16:11:04 | midhaarrocker | You needn't turn it off. If you just ejected the drive by software you can disconnect it while it is turned on. |
| 16:11:19 | plm | it is the BUG !!! |
| 16:11:36 | plm | with the archos flashed version |
| 16:11:51 | plm | no bug with the origin firmware |
| 16:12:13 | plm | this bug is only with the archos flashed version.... |
| 16:12:16 | midhaarrocker | well , it's a different behaviour, but I don't exaclty consider it as a bug. |
| 16:12:31 | plm | I loose all my data |
| 16:12:35 | plm | 2 times... |
| 16:12:45 | plm | and i say it is not a bug !!! |
| 16:12:59 | plm | YO say it is not a bug... |
| 16:13:43 | midhaarrocker | Loosing data is fatal but it shouldn't be related to the different on / off behaviour. |
| 16:14:19 | midhaarrocker | It must be possible to disconnect the device (after ejecting it) while powered on. |
| 16:14:23 | plm | ?? don't understand |
| 16:14:33 | plm | yes i agree with you$ |
| 16:14:35 | plm | but |
| 16:14:47 | plm | with the flash version i can't do it safely |
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| 16:15:29 | plm | i'm there... |
| 16:16:36 | midhaarrocker | Hm. I frequently disconnect my flashed recorder powered on. I never had any data loss. Which operating system do you use. |
| 16:17:01 | plm | my archos is flashed with the rockbox flash firmware |
| 16:17:05 | plm | not the 2.1 version |
| 16:17:12 | midhaarrocker | Is it older? |
| 16:17:13 | plm | do you think the problem is there ? |
| 16:17:18 | plm | no |
| 16:17:34 | midhaarrocker | I run a recent daily build without probs. |
| 16:18:09 | plm | the latest firmware i know is the 2.1 |
| 16:18:30 | midhaarrocker | I suspect you have a problem with the drivers in your pc. Which OS do you run on your PC? |
| 16:18:42 | midhaarrocker | 2.1 is the latest official release. It should work fine. |
| 16:18:51 | plm | do you think if i use the 2.1 firmware version, the bug will go on ? |
| 16:18:54 | plm | i use XP |
| 16:18:59 | midhaarrocker | Me too. |
| 16:19:09 | plm | the the latest usb archos driver i find |
| 16:19:25 | plm | with the latest archos driver |
| 16:19:29 | midhaarrocker | XP shouldnt need any drivers. It has its own. |
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| 16:19:58 | midhaarrocker | I don't believe that a version change in rockbox alters your problem. |
| 16:20:32 | plm | but remember that when i used the archos without flash |
| 16:21:00 | plm | i can disconnect the archos turned on (ejected before) |
| 16:21:15 | midhaarrocker | Do you know that you can use the archos firmware when you hold F1 (on the archos) while power on? |
| 16:21:21 | plm | the problem is arrived after i flashed it |
| 16:22:01 | plm | yes |
| 16:22:12 | plm | but why are you tellinf me that ? |
| 16:22:42 | midhaarrocker | So if you boot the recorder with the archos firmware, connect it to the pc, write some data, disconnect cleanly it doesn't smash your filesystem? |
| 16:23:21 | plm | ok but.. |
| 16:23:43 | plm | if it works for you without change firmware... |
| 16:24:00 | plm | it normally works for me too |
| 16:24:31 | midhaarrocker | It really should. I wonder where the differences in our setups are. |
| 16:24:58 | plm | you have a recorder one ? |
| 16:25:09 | midhaarrocker | yes |
| 16:25:11 | plm | a 10giga version ? |
| 16:25:38 | midhaarrocker | The 15 gb model, but that's not a difference. And you run rockbox > 2.1? |
| 16:25:49 | plm | no |
| 16:26:04 | midhaarrocker | which rockbox version have you flashed? |
| 16:26:07 | plm | it is written : flash version |
| 16:26:32 | plm | it is the firmware included in the flash_rec pack that i uses |
| 16:26:36 | plm | i used |
| 16:27:28 | midhaarrocker | That should work flawlessly. But note that you can flash rockbox versions >2.1 (maybe some daily builds before, too) |
| 16:28:01 | plm | yep |
| 16:28:04 | plm | but |
| 16:28:14 | plm | i 'm frightenned |
| 16:28:21 | plm | to have again |
| 16:28:24 | plm | the same bug.... :'( |
| 16:28:31 | midhaarrocker | But nevertheless I doubt that the firmware is causing your problem. While the recorder is connected to the pc rockbox doesn't have any control over the drive. |
| 16:29:03 | midhaarrocker | After disconnecting it reload the directory to investigate it for changes. |
| 16:29:10 | plm | so where is the source of the problem? |
| 16:30:13 | midhaarrocker | I suspect it somewhere in your drivers / drive settings. Maybe some data wasn't written cleanly. But the eject process should take care of that. And that's what you did, so I don't really know. |
| 16:30:14 | plm | and why my archos don't have this problem before be flashed |
| 16:30:52 | plm | :'(((( |
| 16:30:53 | midhaarrocker | I wouldn't be surprised if it was nothing but coincedence that your filesystem broke when you changed to the flashed firmware. |
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| 16:31:29 | plm | i will try again with the 2.1 version... and pray God preserve my data... |
| 16:31:32 | midhaarrocker | And there is the worst case, that your drive is broken. |
| 16:32:04 | midhaarrocker | Oh, yes: I hope your batteries were full? Strange things happen, when they're not. |
| 16:32:17 | plm | in fact |
| 16:32:31 | plm | my archos is in charging mode too |
| 16:32:51 | plm | it is a security to not have battery problem |
| 16:32:59 | midhaarrocker | :) |
| 16:33:17 | plm | but in my case, it is with no effect... :( |
| 16:33:37 | midhaarrocker | But even when the charger is connected to the unit it may misbehave if batteries are drained or broken. |
| 16:33:52 | midhaarrocker | The charger doesn't provide enough power to run the device entirely. |
| 16:33:58 | plm | hey !!!!! |
| 16:34:01 | plm | I know !!! |
| 16:34:04 | midhaarrocker | ok |
| 16:34:08 | midhaarrocker | Just making sure. |
| 16:34:11 | plm | no |
| 16:34:18 | plm | i mean |
| 16:34:30 | plm | i know where the problem could be |
| 16:34:43 | plm | i change my batteries |
| 16:35:01 | plm | it is now a 1600mAH version |
| 16:35:09 | plm | and not a 1500mAH |
| 16:35:19 | plm | you think it is the reason ? |
| 16:35:23 | midhaarrocker | I have 1800mAH, that per se is not a problem |
| 16:35:41 | plm | hmmm :( |
| 16:35:45 | midhaarrocker | (unless you change the batteries while operating the drive) :) |
| 16:36:21 | plm | no !!! |
| 16:36:23 | plm | never :) |
| 16:37:01 | plm | grrr there's not good news for me today.... |
| 16:37:07 | plm | so thx a lot for speaking |
| 16:37:09 | midhaarrocker | I'd try to remove the drivers you installed and let xp detect the drive. I'd let it use it's own drivers, they work fine for me, no updates needed. |
| 16:37:23 | plm | ok |
| 16:37:36 | plm | I will try this right now |
| 16:37:56 | plm | my datas is backuped |
| 16:37:58 | midhaarrocker | best wishes of luck |
| 16:38:14 | plm | but i hope nobody will have the bad surprise I had |
| 16:38:19 | plm | thx !!! :) |
| 16:38:31 | midhaarrocker | you're welcome |
| 16:40:59 | plm | I created .rvf files |
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| 16:41:10 | plm | can i put them any place ? |
| 16:41:14 | midhaarrocker | yes |
| 16:41:23 | plm | where ? |
| 16:42:08 | midhaarrocker | e.g. <your_jukebox_drive_letter>:\movies ? Just a suggestion |
| 16:42:27 | plm | it is not what i mean.. |
| 16:42:30 | plm | there is a ftp |
| 16:42:38 | webmind | :\ |
| 16:42:39 | webmind | ? |
| 16:42:43 | plm | where i can upload them ? |
| 16:42:50 | webmind | drive letter ? |
| 16:43:19 | midhaarrocker | webmind yes. |
| 16:43:38 | webmind | a /me not following ? |
| 16:43:41 | plm | it is not for me.. but for others archos users |
| 16:43:56 | plm | i talk about public ftp |
| 16:44:10 | midhaarrocker | plm: I don't know wether rockbox.se hosts any video files |
| 16:44:11 | plm | i talk about a archos public ftp |
| 16:44:25 | plm | oki..... |
| 16:44:33 | midhaarrocker | I guess you have to host them somewhere else. You're on your own with that. |
| 16:44:57 | plm | excuse me for my stupid questions.... |
| 16:45:53 | plm | ;) |
| 16:45:55 | midhaarrocker | unasked questions are the stupid ones :) |
| 16:48:31 | plm | i have to rebbot to uninstall archos driver |
| 16:48:37 | plm | good bye |
| 16:48:37 | webmind | i removed the batteries and now my archos won't work anymore.. what is the problem? |
| 16:48:40 | plm | thx again |
| 16:48:43 | webmind | and what about that one? :) |
| 16:49:31 | midhaarrocker | I swallowed my jukebox and now it rumbles in my guts. |
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| 17:03:07 | Timbels | hello! |
| 17:04:01 | Timbels | any of the programmes around? |
| 17:05:50 | Timbels | programmes = programmers |
| 17:06:36 | * | midhaarrocker is only occasionally programming something for rockbox |
| 17:08:26 | Timbels | ah |
| 17:08:34 | Timbels | time for 1 question? |
| 17:08:44 | Timbels | i see rockbox has .txt suport |
| 17:08:50 | webmind | yes |
| 17:08:54 | Timbels | i already saw a request to add .nfo suport |
| 17:09:09 | webmind | owh.. thought you wanted .pdf ;_ |
| 17:09:10 | webmind | ;) |
| 17:09:10 | Timbels | actually nfo is just a txt file |
| 17:09:12 | Timbels | lol |
| 17:09:12 | Timbels | ;) |
| 17:09:31 | Timbels | so is it possible to make that function with txt viewer?> |
| 17:09:41 | webmind | think so |
| 17:09:42 | Timbels | should be possible i think? |
| 17:09:45 | webmind | should be small patch |
| 17:09:48 | Timbels | yep |
| 17:09:49 | midhaarrocker | There's a discussion in progress about technologies that enable you to use a plugin (eg a viewer) with any kind of file. |
| 17:10:03 | Timbels | yes |
| 17:10:22 | Timbels | but nfo is veryy common with mp3 use |
| 17:10:30 | Timbels | its just a text file with some comments about the release |
| 17:10:34 | Timbels | info about the artist |
| 17:10:35 | Timbels | etc |
| 17:10:36 | webmind | only i certain scenes |
| 17:10:40 | Timbels | yep |
| 17:10:43 | Timbels | thats correct |
| 17:10:45 | webmind | i=in |
| 17:10:53 | webmind | i never add an nfo file |
| 17:11:05 | Timbels | but i happen to have a lot that will be automaticly be copyed when i copy whole dirs |
| 17:11:13 | webmind | just correctly add id3tag and put info in filenames |
| 17:11:13 | Timbels | would be kewl to view those on the road |
| 17:11:14 | Timbels | imo |
| 17:11:15 | Timbels | ;) |
| 17:11:20 | webmind | ok |
| 17:11:23 | midhaarrocker | But those changes that are being discussed enable you to associate *.nfo files with the viewer plugin. |
| 17:11:33 | webmind | ok |
| 17:11:36 | Timbels | ic |
| 17:11:42 | Timbels | yep |
| 17:11:59 | Timbels | thats more like windows does with "unkown" file types |
| 17:13:20 | Timbels | well anyway, that wqas just my little question |
| 17:13:33 | Timbels | don't think its to difficult for one of the programmers to do |
| 17:13:38 | Timbels | and i would like it a lot |
| 17:15:03 | midhaarrocker | I suppose they do it anyways. They like it a lot, too. |
| 17:15:13 | Timbels | a kewl |
| 17:15:35 | Timbels | this all is new to me |
| 17:15:45 | Timbels | i heard about rockbox from other people |
| 17:16:00 | Timbels | friend of mine has a jukebox and i think i will get it from him tonight |
| 17:16:04 | Timbels | to use |
| 17:16:14 | Timbels | u still use/like it midhaarrocker? |
| 17:23:37 | midhaarrocker | yes, and I extend it, too. |
| 17:24:33 | midhaarrocker | I must go now |
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| 19:40:22 | quelsaruk | hi there |
| 19:46:02 | * | quelsaruk is messing around with the code... keep out |
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| 20:19:08 | quelsaruk | anyone knows in which file is the scroll function? |
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| 20:31:33 | quelsaruk | cu! |
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| 21:38:56 | tboy | hoi |
| 21:39:32 | tboy | ehm does someone have a the rockbox tools compiled |
| 21:39:38 | tboy | on a windows machine |
| 21:41:54 | tboy | or for a windows pc |
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| 21:53:02 | quelsaruk | hi again |
| 21:57:54 | scott666 | hey |
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| 22:00:02 | tboy | i get a problem while compiling rb |
| 22:00:25 | tboy | it doesn't seem to find convbdf |
| 22:00:45 | tboy | although I got it in the tools dir |
| 22:01:40 | tboy | can someone help |
| 22:02:37 | tboy | well I solved it |
| 22:02:50 | tboy | it seems like the makefile configure produced |
| 22:03:16 | tboy | doesn't go to the root of the rockbox source dir |
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| 22:04:11 | quelsaruk | re |
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| 22:07:27 | tboy | eh quel |
| 22:07:36 | tboy | can I ask you something |
| 22:08:10 | quelsaruk | try |
| 22:08:11 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 22:08:23 | tboy | isn't there a command wich can reverse the compiling |
| 22:08:26 | tboy | after I did it |
| 22:08:37 | tboy | ;) hope you get the msg |
| 22:08:50 | tboy | something like make -x |
| 22:08:50 | quelsaruk | i don't understand you |
| 22:08:52 | quelsaruk | :( |
| 22:08:59 | tboy | x standing for some letter |
| 22:09:11 | tboy | see after I compile rockbox |
| 22:09:19 | quelsaruk | ahhh |
| 22:09:32 | quelsaruk | get a source code from a compiled rockbox? |
| 22:09:45 | tboy | I want to go back so I don't have to put upp a new tarball everytime |
| 22:09:55 | tboy | there should be such a command |
| 22:09:57 | tboy | make -r |
| 22:10:01 | tboy | or something |
| 22:10:11 | quelsaruk | .... |
| 22:10:17 | tboy | I used to know it |
| 22:10:22 | quelsaruk | make clean? |
| 22:10:26 | tboy | ahh |
| 22:10:30 | tboy | thats what it was |
| 22:10:31 | tboy | thx man |
| 22:10:35 | tboy | ;D |
| 22:10:44 | quelsaruk | it's friday night.. don't make my neurons work to hard ;) |
| 22:10:53 | tboy | sorry man, ;D |
| 22:11:19 | tboy | just found a bug in the windows cygwin rb setup |
| 22:11:56 | tboy | the makefile wich gets produced doesn't link to the tools dir correctly |
| 22:14:31 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 22:29:50 | quelsaruk | logbot: seen midhaarrocker |
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| 22:50:22 | quelsaruk | logbot ignores me :( |
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| 23:33:08 | Guest57 | hi all |
| 23:33:15 | Dogger | hey anyone know much about imageMagick convert? |
| 23:33:53 | Guest57 | Is there some guy with time and enough C-knowlegde to Add support for .lnk file ( at least for the directory) |
| 23:34:18 | Guest57 | if someone is volunteer I have some sample c code to manage .lnk file |
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| 23:35:41 | Guest57 | hi, I m back ,so is there some volunteer |
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