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#rockbox log for 2004-01-11

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00:29:41tboywhen using this command
00:29:42tboylcd_invertrect(x,y,width,height)
00:30:26tboyis the pixel x y, relevant
00:30:33tboyregarding the hight
00:30:36tboyheight
00:32:39tboyor is it in the middle of the area
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01:29:09midknight2k3hi edx
01:29:18edxhi
01:33:59Timbelshey midknight2k3 :)
01:34:59midknight2k3hi timbels
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01:46:42midknight2k3hi hardeep
01:46:46hardeephello
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02:26:16hardeephmmmm, anyone want to test a new feature?
02:26:43midknight2k3aww grr
02:26:45midknight2k3what feature
02:26:50midknight2k3i havent got the ajbrecfm around
02:26:50midknight2k3GRR
02:26:53*midknight2k3 stabs self
02:27:21hardeepview/edit playlists on disk
02:27:26hardeepre: feature
02:27:40midknight2k3ohh
02:27:46midknight2k3like the open like folders thing?
02:28:16hardeepyeah, like what was being discussed on the mailing list
02:28:22midknight2k3grrrrrrr!
02:28:26*midknight2k3 stabs again
02:31:03hardeepif anyone sees this and wants to try it out, patch and binaries at: http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/viewer/
02:31:16midknight2k3i can try it tomorrow
02:31:19midknight2k3i will*
02:32:59midknight2k3wow
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02:33:02midknight2k3looks like a LOT of code
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02:40:50midknight2k3hardeep: was there an issue with building?
02:40:57midknight2k3what's this ssize_t change?
02:48:02trackhi
02:48:08midknight2k3tfad
02:49:06tracktea maker
02:52:37trackMulti-function
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02:56:35hardeepmidknight2k3: there was problem building the X11 simulator on cygwin
02:56:57midknight2k3ohhh
02:58:35track:-(
02:58:58midknight2k3track: fine, i'll but. sdd
02:59:00midknight2k3bite*
02:59:26tracku love ur sdd
02:59:36midknight2k3u love ur tea maker
02:59:53trackwell that has a function, sdd does not
03:00
03:00:01midknight2k3fine then
03:00:03midknight2k3ill ignore you
03:00:22trackok fine ignore me if you want
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03:40:30Timbelshehe
03:40:39midknight2k3lol
03:40:54Timbelshmm whats that viewer?
03:41:00Timbels[02:31] <hardeep> if anyone sees this and wants to try it out, patch and binaries at: http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/viewer/
03:41:12midknight2k3it allows you to view playlists like a folder
03:41:19Timbelshuh
03:41:33Timbelshow ?
03:41:39Timbelsnormally when u click it it plays
03:41:41midknight2k3right
03:41:44midknight2k3but this way
03:41:50midknight2k3it treats them like folders sort of
03:41:53midknight2k3so you can open it
03:42:00midknight2k3and view it like a folder
03:42:01Timbelswhat is the benifit of that?
03:42:09midknight2k3if you can't tell, forget it
03:42:12Timbelsgehhe
03:42:13Timbelslol
03:42:14Timbels!
03:42:23Timbelsremember i'm a newbie midnight!
03:42:32Timbelsand go fix the .nfo! heheheh :P
03:42:33Timbelsjoke
03:42:40midknight2k3lol
03:42:51Timbelsi tried some stuff today
03:42:54Timbelsbut..
03:42:58Timbelsits difficult
03:43:03Timbelsthere are like 5 chars
03:43:08Timbelswich should be replaced by space
03:43:11Timbelsor just be deleted
03:43:23Timbelsthen the nfo is completely clear from garbage
03:43:27Timbelsonly text left
03:43:32midknight2k3dfg
03:43:41Timbelsso in somewhay the program must know how to delete those chars
03:43:45Timbelsor something like that
03:43:55Timbelsthats the only thing i can com up with
03:43:56Timbelsatm
03:45:12midknight2k3?
03:45:17Timbelswhat?
03:45:22midknight2k3nm
03:45:27midknight2k3yeh its not that easy
03:45:48Timbelsyep
03:45:59Timbelshehe
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04:13:50midknight2k3asdf
04:14:08midknight2k3brb
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04:37:54midknight2k3hi acid
04:38:13AciDhey
04:43:04Timbelshi
04:43:51Timbelsmidknight2k3: u ever heard of cue suport?
04:44:00midknight2k3queue?
04:44:04Timbelsno
04:44:06Timbelsehm
04:44:09midknight2k3?
04:44:10Timbelshow do i explain this
04:44:12Timbelsdj sets
04:44:14Timbelsin mp3
04:44:22Timbelsare like 1 file
04:44:25Timbelsto prevent skipping
04:44:35Timbelsthey include a .cue file
04:44:39midknight2k3OHH
04:44:42Timbelswich for example winamp can reasd
04:44:45Timbelsand it makes a playlist
04:44:53midknight2k3hmm
04:44:54Timbelsto use within the 1 file
04:44:58Timbelsso you can still skip sings
04:45:00Timbelssongs
04:45:05Timbelsu understand what i mean?
04:45:22midknight2k3yeahh
04:45:29midknight2k3but
04:45:30Timbelslike this
04:45:30midknight2k3uhh
04:45:36Timbels(long [paste)
04:45:38TimbelsERFORMER "VA"
04:45:38TimbelsTITLE "Carl Cox - F.A.C.T. Australia II"
04:45:38TimbelsFILE "01-va-carl_cox_-_f.a.c.t._australia_ii_cd1-fsp.mp3" MP3
04:45:38Timbels TRACK 01 AUDIO
04:45:38Timbels TITLE "Voce Mesmo"
04:45:39***Alert Mode level 1
04:45:39Timbels PERFORMER "Anderson Noise"
04:45:41Timbels INDEX 01 00:00:00
04:45:43Timbels TRACK 02 AUDIO
04:45:45Timbels TITLE "The Groove Pt 2"
04:45:47Timbels PERFORMER "Trevor Rockcliffe"
04:45:49Timbels INDEX 01 03:04:10
04:45:53Timbelsand its only1 mp3
04:46:03midknight2k3ohh
04:46:04Timbelsbut when u open it u can still browse songs
04:46:04midknight2k3like times
04:46:15Timbelsthis is the mp3
04:46:20Timbelsi downloaded
04:46:20Timbels01-va-carl_cox_-_f.a.c.t._australia_ii_cd1-fsp.mp3
04:46:22midknight2k3like 1 file but the cue file lets you browse to certain points like tracks?
04:46:27TimbelsYep
04:46:29Timbelsexactly
04:46:37Timbelsi have a lot of dj mixes who use this
04:46:39midknight2k3request it. i sure as hell can't do that.
04:46:46Timbelshehe
04:46:52Timbelsok
04:47:56Timbelsany idea IF it would be possible?
04:48:03Timbelsor does it sound impossible
04:48:37midknight2k3possible
04:48:39midknight2k3yes
04:50:01Timbelskewl
04:53:40Timbelshmm
04:53:40Timbelshttp://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439121&aid=613314
04:54:22midknight2k3ok
04:54:24midknight2k3its already fileD?
04:55:40***Alert Mode OFF
04:56:44Timbelswell
04:56:45Timbelsin 2002
04:56:46Timbels:(
04:57:02midknight2k3LMAO
04:57:31Timbelshmm
04:57:47Timbelscheck
04:57:47Timbelshttp://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-09/1078.shtml
04:58:00midknight2k3OH WEEE
04:58:46Timbelsu know how i install this midknight2k3?
04:58:50midknight2k3yups
04:58:58Timbelssounds promosing
04:59:23midknight2k3promosing?
04:59:26midknight2k3promo sing?
04:59:58Timbelshey!
05:00
05:00:03Timbelsi'm not that good in english
05:00:07Timbelsi wanna see u talk dutch!
05:00:25midknight2k3de hur mitzen schwing
05:01:02Timbelsdutch is not deutsch
05:01:03Timbelshehe
05:01:08Timbelsdutch = from holland
05:01:12Timbelsnot germany
05:01:14Timbels;)
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05:28:38Timbels?
05:28:42mk|readingoops
05:28:44mk|readingignore that
05:28:45mk|readingLMAO
05:28:47Timbelshehe
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05:36:04Timbelslot of names
05:36:05Timbelshehe
05:36:19midknight2k3sorry
05:36:27midknight2k3wish you could nick in just one channel
05:36:29Timbelsnp
05:36:33Timbelshmm yeah
05:36:36midknight2k3parrently not
05:36:44midknight2k3cygwin is the equivalent of busted
05:36:53Timbelsuh?
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05:37:14BotheredByASi cant patch.
05:37:27Timbelsouch
05:37:33BotheredByAS:(
05:37:34BotheredByASsorry
05:37:36Timbelsnp
05:37:39BotheredByAStomorrow
05:37:39Timbelsi will wait
05:37:42BotheredByASi can promise
05:37:44Timbelsyep noprob
05:37:48BotheredByAScygwin works at my moms :)
05:37:51Timbelsehehe
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05:47:52midknight2k3I THINK I FINISHED THE ETCHERSKETCHER
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13:15:53Timbelsaloha all!
13:16:12Timbelsany programmers (for rockbox) awake?
13:16:24Timbelshave a little question
13:26:27c0uttai'm awake but it had better be simple
13:32:08Timbelsehm nevermind then
13:32:13Timbelsits pretty tricky
13:32:15Timbels(i guess)
13:34:13c0uttahit me with it!!
13:34:35Timbelsok
13:34:43Timbelsi just got me this great device
13:34:48Timbelsi dj myself
13:34:52Timbelsand play my mixes on it
13:35:13Timbelsnow i found this in the archive
13:35:18Timbelshttp://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-09/1078.shtml
13:35:37Timbelsthats pretty dated from what i hear
13:35:45Timbelsshouldn'tr be compatible with the recent version
13:35:54Timbelsbut i would DIE to have that feature
13:36:03Timbelsall my mixes use that .cue
13:36:11Timbelsto skip through the large file
13:36:27Timbelsi can see in the archive that there have been a lot of talk about
13:36:39Timbelsand that version did work back then but not anymore i guess
13:36:53Timbelsso if anyone can code, and could make this work it woud be amazing
13:37:52Timbelsu understand what it does?
13:37:52c0uttayes, it does sound cool for djing
13:37:58Timbelsyep
13:38:05Timbelsand i trade a lot of mixes with friends
13:38:12Timbelsand they all have those files
13:38:43c0uttahave you tried emailing dave chapman ?
13:38:45Timbelsand aperantly it could work on the rockbox because it has been tried before as u can see in that old patch
13:38:47Timbelsyes
13:38:50Timbelshe responded
13:38:57Timbelsbut he is very busy with other projects
13:39:04Timbelsand would love to see this feauture to
13:39:09Timbelsbut afraid it needs changes
13:39:14Timbelsto the recent build
13:39:22c0uttahmmm
13:39:29Timbelshere
13:39:31Timbelslong paste
13:39:31TimbelsTim,
13:39:31Timbels From what I can tell, the structure of Rockbox has changed a lot since I wrote my patch, so it will be hard to apply it to recent builds.
13:39:31DBUGEnqueued KICK Timbels
13:39:31TimbelsI would still very much like to see .cue support in Rockbox (especially the ability to create them in Rockbox), but I have other open source projects that I'm working on at the moment, so I can't do it myself.
13:39:50Timbelsabout that create thing.. i don't mind with that
13:39:54Timbelsi can do that on the pc
13:40:13Timbelsit is pure for skipping trough 1 big mix without gaps and still see track names etc
13:40:27Timbelsi know i can cut them before but since most mixes come with a .cue it would be much better
13:40:31Timbelsin my opinion
13:40:33c0uttayou need someone here who does that type of work
13:40:38Timbelsi'm new here
13:40:43Timbelsjust got my recorder 2 days
13:40:51c0uttakurzharocker seems to be one of the guys who does djing
13:40:58Timbelshmm
13:41:03Timbelsok
13:41:07c0uttahe is here wuite a bit
13:41:11Timbelsah nice
13:41:13c0uttawuite=quite
13:41:18Timbelsow
13:41:21Timbelsi thought with a bit
13:41:22Timbelshehe
13:41:42c0uttahe has been working on a silence detection patch
13:41:42Timbelsbut do you think that old patch
13:41:47Timbelswould be compatible?
13:41:49Timbelsyeah i know
13:41:52Timbelshe skipped it now
13:41:57Timbelsbecause of latency
13:42:00Timbelsi read about it
13:42:03c0uttathere are quite a few guys using rockbox for djing
13:42:17Timbelshmm then i think its pretty strange
13:42:20c0uttahe's in germany, so keeps german hours
13:42:22Timbelsthat it still hasn't been done
13:42:28Timbelshaha
13:42:30Timbelsi'm in holland
13:42:36Timbelsits midday here and in germany
13:42:40Timbelsso he should be awake
13:42:41Timbels;)
13:42:44c0uttayou'll probably see him today
13:42:47Timbelskewl
13:42:48c0uttahe's very reliable
13:42:54Timbelsah
13:43:06Timbelsi hope he will look into it
13:43:17Timbelswould be the only thing and then its the perfect machine
13:43:21Timbels(already is) but..
13:43:21Timbels;)
13:43:33c0uttai mainly work on the ui stuff
13:43:36Timbelsah
13:43:41Timbelsui
13:43:42Timbels?
13:43:48c0uttauser interface
13:43:51Timbels(my english sucks)
13:43:52Timbelsah
13:43:54Timbelsi understand
13:44:02c0uttabetter than my dutch
13:44:06Timbelsghehe
13:44:10Timbelsdank je wel
13:44:11Timbels;)
13:44:15c0uttaja
13:44:54Timbelsi now have that standard battery's in it, think i'm gonna buy those higher charge batterys
13:44:57Timbels2200 or so
13:45:02Timbelsu use them?
13:45:14c0uttai'm using 2100
13:45:19Timbelsah
13:45:27Timbelsgood playtime with that?
13:45:35c0utta8-10
13:45:38Timbelshmm
13:45:45c0uttai play a lot of 192/256/320
13:45:48c0uttamore disk access
13:45:49Timbelsah
13:45:51Timbelsme only 192
13:45:59Timbelsbut nothing lower
13:46:17c0uttau got a jbr ?
13:46:49Timbelsyep
13:46:50Timbels20
13:46:59Timbelsu?
13:47:23c0uttajbr6 upgraded to 60gb
13:47:29c0uttahad it for 2 years
13:47:31Timbelsaaah
13:47:35Timbelsstill happy?
13:47:42c0uttayes, very
13:47:45Timbelskewl
13:47:54c0uttai have had to solder the battery terminals
13:48:00Timbelsow
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13:48:17Timbelsmy friend bought it 2 years ago
13:48:23Timbelsi just lend it from him
13:48:25earHurtstest
13:48:32Timbelsand i am possitive i will buy it from him
13:48:37Timbelsgreat machine
13:48:37earHurtstest2
13:48:45Timbels123 test is completed
13:48:45earHurtstest3
13:49:05earHurtstest4
13:49:13c0uttai love having all my music with me
13:49:28Timbelsyep
13:49:43Timbelswell i can't fit all of it on it
13:49:46Timbelsbut thats not my intention
13:49:49Timbelsjust a lot
13:50:16Timbels500 mb or whatever flash players have is just not enough
13:50:25Timbels(for me)
13:51:14c0uttame too
13:51:38c0uttai use a nex2 as well with a 192mb flash
13:51:43c0uttamainly for running
13:51:50c0uttai don;t run with the jbr
13:52:07Timbelsah
13:52:12Timbelssmart thinking
13:52:20Timbelsdont think that will be good
13:52:23Timbelsto heavy also
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16:00:55TimbelsZZzzzzzzzzzzzz wake up you all :)
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21:12:18Dynamitehas anyone ever taken apart a fm recorder?
21:12:45Timbelsnope
21:12:59Timbelsthere are lots of tutorials for that
21:13:03Timbelson the web
21:13:33Dynamitethe only ones i've found are for the reguar recorders and the jukebox 6000
21:13:38Dynamitei haven't seen any of the fm
21:13:58Timbelshmm
21:14:04Timbelsthat could be
21:14:09Timbelssorry :(
21:14:17Timbelsnever thought of the difference
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21:53:12earHurtsMr. Dragon!
21:53:21[IDC]DragonHi
21:53:52earHurtsYou're rewriting the mpeg code?
21:54:28[IDC]Dragonhow's your box?
21:54:39[IDC]Dragonyou were first.
21:54:44[IDC]DragonMPEG is fine
21:54:55earHurtsmy box is down
21:55:27earHurtsat first newmp3 claimed they'd changed the baord, then I convinced them they had not
21:55:42earHurts(I had photos of the original board)
21:55:45[IDC]Dragonany resolution?
21:55:52earHurtsthen I went on holiday
21:56:03earHurtsso I have to write him again
21:56:18earHurtshe says now he will fix it without furtheer charge
21:56:31earHurtsbut my confidence is low
21:57:29[IDC]Dragonbut we have to fix the flash, right?
21:57:37earHurtswell, no
21:57:55earHurtsnewmp3 said they'd put ina new pcb. they did not.
21:58:19[IDC]Dragonso they have another chance to put a new one in ;)
21:58:19earHurtsso if they now do, they'll end up replacing the flash along with the board
21:58:44earHurtsthis is why I asked on the list if any fmr did not have flash
21:58:54earHurtsand you said they all do
21:59:05[IDC]Dragoncan we ask them for parts?
21:59:17[IDC]Dragonif they trash the board anyhow...
21:59:27earHurtsoh, we will ask that all parts taken out be returned
21:59:38earHurtsjust like with an auto mechanic
21:59:48[IDC]Dragonseveral people would be glad about your old chip
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22:00:00earHurtsglad how?
22:00:16[IDC]Dragonto solder it into their unflashable box
22:00:29[IDC]Dragonlike I did with mine
22:00:42earHurtsI thought you purchased a supply of those chips
22:00:52[IDC]Dragon5 pieces, yes
22:01:10[IDC]DragonI didn't scrap another box, no
22:01:30[IDC]Dragonbut I gave 3 of the chips away
22:01:31earHurtsI'd be happy to let you have the original board
22:01:37[IDC]Dragonkept one spare
22:01:50[IDC]Dragonplus mine means I have none left
22:02:19earHurtsone for your gf's?
22:02:31[IDC]Dragonthat was flashable, phew.
22:02:44[IDC]DragonElse I'd needed my golden spare part.
22:02:57[IDC]Dragonor leave it
22:02:57earHurtsyes, the thing is to test at the store
22:03:16[IDC]Dragondifficult
22:03:18earHurtsbecuase I did not jhave my archos on holiday
22:03:19[IDC]Dragony
22:03:43earHurtsI bought a 512MB SD card
22:03:53earHurtsand tested it at the store
22:04:51earHurtsbtw, Dragon, what is beneth the panel on the bottom of the archos?
22:05:06[IDC]Dragonpanel?
22:05:18earHurtswith the two screws
22:05:20[IDC]Dragonah, the tuner
22:05:33earHurtshuh?
22:05:41earHurtsthat's no tuner
22:05:56[IDC]Dragonno, that has no screws
22:06:02[IDC]Dragonagain, what panel?
22:06:09earHurtson the very bottom
22:06:43earHurtsunder the panel are losts of small wires
22:06:49[IDC]Dragonthe perpendicular PCB holding the IDE connector?
22:07:01earHurtsit looks like it might be to the hdd, yes
22:07:17earHurtsis it an ide connector?
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22:07:50[IDC]DragonI need to dig out the picture, to find out what side you mean
22:08:18earHurtsok, on the fmr the top is the battery hatch
22:08:34earHurtsthe side opposite to that side I call the bottom
22:09:03[IDC]DragonOK
22:09:09earHurtsthe part that is to the ground if the archos is set up, with the lcd facing the horizon
22:09:15[IDC]Dragon(can't be the picture I made)
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22:09:57[IDC]DragonOK, you're talking about the IDE connector board
22:10:13earHurtsanyway, could you take off that panel and use those wires to connect directly to the hdd?
22:10:37[IDC]Dragonmine has no wires there
22:10:45earHurtsah
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22:10:52[IDC]Dragondo you mean pins?
22:11:33[IDC]Dragonany URL of the picture you're referring to?
22:11:34uskihi *
22:11:36earHurtsum. I suppose
22:13:25earHurtshttp://www.angelfire.com/trek/archos/arch10.jpg
22:14:32[IDC]Dragonah, thats a MM
22:15:21[IDC]Dragonthey have a connector which is primarily IDE, iirc
22:15:43[IDC]Dragonor maybe their bus
22:16:27earHurtsso you could directly connect to the hdd?
22:16:50[IDC]DragonI don't think so
22:17:06earHurtswhat could you do with it?
22:17:22[IDC]Dragonrather: hou can connect an external IDE device, i.e. a CF card
22:17:34[IDC]Dragons/hou/you
22:17:49earHurtschain the ides?
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22:22:17earHurtssorry, doom killed my keyboard
22:23:50[IDC]Dragon2and something killed my connection
22:24:07earHurtsnot doom' I assume
22:24:27earHurtsplaying doom on my handheld is oddly absorbing
22:24:33[IDC]Dragon2maybe t-online
22:24:51[IDC]Dragon2plaing doom on what?
22:24:59earHurtsmy zaurus
22:25:06[IDC]Dragon2ah
22:25:13[IDC]Dragon2better display
22:25:29earHurts320x240
22:25:44[IDC]Dragon2I use OPIE on my webpad
22:25:56[IDC]Dragon2same software as for Zaurus, I think
22:26:00earHurtswhat hardware?
22:26:19[IDC]Dragon2Siemens SimPad
22:26:33earHurtsI will flash opie as soon as I find my missisnf cf card
22:26:56[IDC]Dragon2it doesn't come with it?
22:27:37earHurtsno, it comes with sharp's build
22:28:16earHurtscompanies always make better software than hobbyists, didn't you know? ;)
22:28:20[IDC]Dragon2and Opera?
22:28:32[IDC]Dragon2sure they do ;)
22:28:42earHurtsOpera mostly sucks
22:29:00earHurtsOpera supports special pda css styles
22:29:13earHurtsbut the css files are not in plaintext
22:29:23[IDC]Dragon2Hmm, I use Opera all the time on it
22:29:26earHurtsthis frustrates my attempt to improve it
22:29:40earHurtslook for the file pda.css
22:30:03[IDC]Dragon2don't have it at hand now
22:30:23earHurtswhen you do
22:31:03[IDC]Dragon2it's charging right now, was completely flat a few minutes ago
22:31:29earHurtsyou can't use it while it charges?
22:31:49[IDC]Dragon2I can, but have to re-plug it to bring it here
22:32:01[IDC]Dragon2hang on...
22:32:06earHurtsno,'
22:32:10earHurtsno biggie
22:33:06[IDC]Dragon2too late
22:33:25[IDC]Dragon2now I can read the IRC from there
22:33:51[IDC]Dragon2where is that file?
22:34:41[IDC]Dragon2pda.css in which dir, I mean?
22:35:22earHurtsjjj
22:35:41earHurtsin /home/QtPalmtop/opera/styles
22:36:11[IDC]Dragon2ah, I see that.
22:36:29[IDC]Dragon26892 bytes?
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22:38:42earHurtsyes
22:38:57earHurtsit's in some strange format
22:39:13earHurtsand starts with OPCS
22:39:20earHurtser, OPCF
22:39:32[IDC]DragonI haven't digged so deep into it, I'm just using it
22:39:59[IDC]Dragonlinux is an unkown thing to me
22:41:14earHurtsreally???
22:41:25earHurtsI am surprised
22:41:39[IDC]DragonI'm a windows lamer
22:41:53earHurtsme too
22:42:19[IDC]Dragonwell, I can do a bit of that command line stuff, but don't know what's under the hood
22:42:39earHurtsdo you use cygwin?
22:42:47[IDC]Dragonyes
22:42:57earHurtsme too
22:43:48earHurtscygwin rocks
22:44:26[IDC]Dragonyes, it's pretty impressive how close that is to the real thing
22:44:57earHurtsyes, good practice
22:45:11earHurtsI intend to transition to linux eventually
22:46:11[IDC]DragonI tried once, the install failed
22:46:26[IDC]Dragonstill have that space for it on the HD
22:47:07earHurtsyes, I'm waiting until the software I want is perfected
22:47:25earHurtsbasicallly, the mozilla stuff
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22:52:45aodhhmmm, you guys might like to try knoppix :)
22:55:06[IDC]Dragonthat's what I tried to install
22:56:21aodhits not the best to install, IMHO
22:56:46[IDC]Dragonaha?
22:57:47aodhi never got it to work properly, it runs off the cd fine but installing...
22:58:40[IDC]Dragonlilo didn't work for me
22:59:03[IDC]Dragonguess it's too old for larger disks?
22:59:53[IDC]Dragonfrom the CD, knoppix didn't detect my sound hardware.
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23:00:02aodhit can work on some large disks i think, but i like Grub now, you can fix it at bootup, and it works on large disks and all
23:01:27[IDC]DragonI wanted Linux behind my windows partition, so after 64 GB or such.
23:01:47[IDC]DragonBut lilo wants to boot within the first 8 GB, iirc
23:02:42aodhlilo is limited,grub is trickier, but it will boot up
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