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#rockbox log for 2004-01-19

00:00:11diddystar5bye
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00:10:19eajeffI was on earlier and unfortunately have been having a heck of time installing rockbox
00:10:37eajeffI keep getting playlist buffer full and I have only 3 small mp3 files
00:11:13Bagderwhat version are you using?
00:11:20eajeffI do have a .rockbox and AJBRC.AJC
00:11:23eajeffversion 2.1
00:11:46Bagdersounds like a bug
00:12:01BagderI would suggest that you try a recent daily build to see if it behaves the same
00:12:37eajeffI am a newbie. Please explain what a recent daily build means. I just reinstalled it for the fourth time today
00:12:39eajeffFYI my info shows buffer 1.412 3MB,6h,17m with my disk at 18.60B with 18.50B free. So I am still at square one???
00:12:42eajeffFYI my info shows buffer 1.412 3MB,6h,17m with my disk at 18.60B with 18.50B free. So I am still at square one???
00:13:31eajeffsorry for dup post
00:14:06Bagderdaily builds is explained in the faq
00:14:24eajeffI do have an X by the AJBRC.AJC file. Is that supposed to be there?
00:14:45Bagderan X?
00:15:24eajeffyes then when I click the play button it takes me to ROLO loading, then descramble
00:15:34eajeffnot sure if this is supposed to happen or not
00:16:05eajeffAJBREC.AJZ is what I meant
00:16:28Bagderthat's when you play an .ajz, yes
00:16:53eajeffhmm... so am I supposed to have that X next to that file?
00:17:21eajeffand if that is my problem?
00:17:28Bagderno that's not your problem
00:17:43eajeffso the X is supposed to be there, right?
00:17:58Bagderthere's supposed to be an icon for the file, yes
00:19:30eajeffok I am looking at the FAQ
00:20:01Bagderinstalling rockbox is done by extracting the zip file
00:20:05eajeffdo I connect my archos and dl the daily build for today
00:20:05Bagdernothing else
00:20:19eajeffI did extract .rockbox
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00:20:33Bagderyou dl the daily build from the rockbox site
00:20:38Bagderyou connect your archos as usual
00:20:41Tiburonhey does this firmware work on the Gmini 120?
00:20:49BagderTiburon: nope
00:21:17Tiburonpoo
00:21:17eajeffso Bagder, do I connect the archos and then dl the daily build and extract it to my archos drive, E?
00:21:26Bagderyes
00:21:43Bagderyou could even remove the previous .rockbox dir first
00:21:45Bagderor rename it
00:21:52Bagderto have the new one instead
00:22:05eajeffis that necessary?
00:22:14Bagdernot really
00:22:40eajeffso leave rockbox on the archos and just extract the daily build, right?
00:22:50Bagderyeps
00:23:21eajeffhang on I'll try it wish me luck−− I have been at this off an on for 24 hours
00:24:58eajeffbefore I do this, I have the jukebox recorder 20; as far as I know, it is version 1 cause I cant find version 2 reference anywhere
00:25:23eajeffso I use the recorder daily build not the recorder8mb right?
00:25:29Bagderright
00:25:40Bagderthe v2 looks like an FM one and is a pretty new model
00:25:50Bagderthe v1 is the plain old traditional recorder one
00:27:03eajeffI assume that if I extract to e\ it will write over the .rockbox folder, right?
00:27:15eajeffI dont extract it to .rockbox in e right?
00:27:37Bagderextract it to E:\
00:27:43eajeffok
00:27:53Bagderoverwrite the previous files
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00:30:08eajeffsame problem
00:30:15eajeffdidnt help unfortunately
00:30:32eajeffI still think ( being a newbie) that I am doing something fundamentally wrong
00:30:38eajeffbut I have no idea what it is
00:30:50Bagderwhen do you get that error message?
00:30:50hardeepeajeff: you're seeing playlist buffer full?
00:31:11eajeffI did wait till it was safe to remove device before taking off usb 2 connection, then powering off and then on again
00:31:16eajeffstill seeing it full, yes
00:31:43Bagderyou must "eject" the device, not just wait
00:31:54eajeffI get that error when I go to one of the mp3 files, then ress the center button which I believe is play
00:32:13hardeepeajeff: try this: Menu->General Settings->System->Manage Settings->Write .cfg file
00:32:33hardeepthen: Menu->General Settings->System->Manage Settings->Reset Settings
00:32:50eajeffI click on getting message when I click on "safely remvove hardware" before I unplug the usb2 cord
00:32:50hardeep(the first is only for debugging purposes)
00:33:42Bagdereajeff: goodie
00:33:49BagderI need to sleep
00:33:51Bagdernight!
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00:33:55hardeepnight Bagder
00:33:57hardeeptoo late
00:34:04eajeffI did that. thanks badger
00:34:10eajeffnow what hardeep?
00:34:25hardeepeajeff: you reset the settings?
00:34:30eajeffyes
00:34:41hardeepeajeff: okay, after the reset, go back to the file browser
00:34:48hardeep(you need a disk access)
00:34:55hardeepthen shutdown and restart
00:35:07eajeffhow do I do that?
00:35:17eajeffI am doing this without being connected to my pc right?
00:35:18hardeepeajeff: how do you do what? go back to file browser?
00:35:28hardeepeajeff: yes
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00:37:20eajeffok now I did see rockbox when i powered on and.,
00:37:28eajeffI can play my mp3s which is good
00:37:44eajeffbut where is my .rockbox folder ?
00:37:53hardeepeajeff: okay, cool. Did you save the .cfg file?
00:37:59eajeffyes
00:38:01hardeepIf so, can you send it to me please
00:38:24eajeffbear with me, as I am a newbie, please tell me exactly how to do that?
00:38:24hardeepeajeff: The .rockbox folder is hidden by default. F2->Show Files->All if you want to see it
00:39:35hardeepeajeff: you provided a name when you create the .cfg file. Attach your jukebox to your pc, get the file from where you saved it and e-mail it to me
00:39:44hardeepe-mail to: hardeeps AT pobox DOT com
00:41:32eajeffhardeep, I may not have done the saving of the cfg file correct, cause I was not connected to the pc when i did all that
00:42:07hardeepeajeff: the saving is done on the jukebox, you don't need to be connected to the pc to save it
00:42:17hardeepin fact, you won't be able to save it if you're connected to the pc
00:42:58eajeffok so now i am connected to my pc. and I have opened my archos, e\ so now what?
00:43:31hardeepeajeff: where did you save the .cfg file?
00:44:00eajeffdont get mad>> I dont know, it said I thought save cfg.file? and I thought I said yes
00:44:12hardeepif you used the default location, it'll be in e:/.rockbox/config00.cfg
00:45:02hardeepif it's not there, don't worry about
00:45:21hardeepat least rockbox should be working on your jukebox correctly now
00:45:24eajeffthere is a config00.cfg file of some nature. should I email that to you?
00:45:31hardeepeajeff: yes, please
00:46:08eajeffI will, I assume I am up and running now thanks to you. Thank you. Although I am not sure exactly why you suggested what you did to correct it. Am I right I am good to go now?
00:47:02hardeepeajeff: you're not seeing playlist buffer full anymore right?
00:47:15eajeffcorrect, not anymore. thank goodness
00:47:37hardeepeajeff: okay, there was a problem with your settings. Resetting changed back to defaults which fixed the problem
00:48:02hardeepwhat I want to see is what your settings were before you reset, hence the cfg file
00:48:06eajeffI see thanks so much. I have spent so much time on this . I feel much better
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00:48:55eajeffI am sending to you now at hardeeps@pobox.com
00:49:30Doggerhey
00:49:40Doggerbootloader 0.2a for AV300 works!
00:50:57hardeepDogger: cool
00:51:01eajeffhardeep, just sent it as an attachment
00:51:25Doggerjust need some alpha testers now
00:51:39Doggerdamn sourceforge cvs down again
00:51:41Doggerhmph
00:52:24hardeepeajeff: thanks
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01:23:17BluechipJust had a flash of inspiration
01:23:43Bluechipbefore I embarass myself ...does anybody know WHY stills need to be encoded to video for display?
01:25:23eajeffhardeep: did you see anything in that file that helped you?
01:26:34DoggerBluechip: isnt that cos of the lack of greyscale?
01:26:47Doggerso greyscale is implemented by turning on and off pixels at different rates
01:26:52Doggerwhich is done by playing a video
01:26:53Dogger?
01:26:56BluechipWhy not generate the greayscale realtime?
01:27:03Doggereugh cpu intensive
01:27:10Doggerif the cpu has enough power, fine,
01:28:40Bluechipgiven a simple file format (to start) f we just keep cycling the same frame we can use % math to flash the pixel?
01:29:12BluechipI'm feel that if it really were that simple, it would already have been done?
01:30:53Doggerno
01:31:12Bluechipno it's not that simple or no it's not been done?
01:31:19Doggeryou need to maintain the rate at which each pixel should be flashed
01:31:31Doggerso you display a different frame each time
01:32:37Bluechipbut, why not use the same phrame and apply a simple math to find out if it needs to invert
01:32:48DoggerNONONONONO
01:32:51Doggerur not listening
01:33:01DoggerEACH PIXEL needs to invert at DIFFERENT RATES
01:33:07Doggerdepending on their grey scale
01:33:13BluechipI am listening
01:33:23Doggerso you get it?
01:33:28Doggerso given 3 pixels,
01:33:34Doggeryou might need to generate
01:33:35Dogger100
01:33:37Dogger110
01:33:38Bluechipand I understand the the premise you offer
01:33:42Dogger000
01:33:46Dogger001
01:33:50Dogger110
01:33:52Dogger101
01:33:54Doggeretc etc
01:34:02Doggerso each pixel flashes at a different speed
01:34:03Bluechipdo it with ONE pixel?
01:34:09Doggerwhat?
01:34:26Bluechipif the value is grey=128, then it has an freuqncy of X
01:34:59Doggeryes,
01:35:16Doggerbut you'd need to generate re generate each pixel for each frame
01:35:25Doggerand you'd need to keep the count for each pixel
01:35:26Bluechiphow SIMPLE is that formula
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01:35:29Doggerand the desired speed
01:35:41Doggervery, but each frame? dunno possible,
01:35:55Bluechipwe have 112x64 array of bytes
01:36:09Bluechipeach byte is a value representing a greyscale
01:36:31Doggerso you need another map representing the current count for each pixel,
01:36:39Bluechipwe loop this array constantly ((not) synched to refresh)
01:36:40Doggerand another map representing the desired rate for each pixel
01:37:00Bluechipthe loop maintains a single iteration counter
01:37:16Bluechipfrom this we have a graph of time versus grayscale
01:37:17Doggerno you need one for each pixel
01:37:37Bluechipwhy
01:37:49Doggerbecause they will complete in different times
01:37:57Doggerpixel a gets to 10 then resets to 0
01:37:57BluechipNMI - brb
01:38:03Doggerpixel b gets to 20 and resets
01:43:13Bluechipsorry
01:43:25Bluechipso...
01:44:06Bluechipif we maintain a single iteration counter, pixel b will reset on iteration count 20
01:44:42Bluechiphow many grey-scales do we realistically achieve?
01:48:35Doggerno idea
01:48:43DoggerI havent got any hardware :)
01:48:44Bluechipwould 8 be fair?
01:48:51DoggerI'd estimate more than that
01:48:52Bluechipah
01:49:09Doggeranyway though
01:49:16Doggersay you want pixel a to reset after 7,
01:49:21Doggerand pixel b to reset after 8,
01:49:25Doggeryou need 2 counters
01:49:27Doggerright?
01:49:29Bluechipno
01:49:42Doggerok, show me how you do it without 2 counters
01:50:26Doggerlook
01:50:35Bluechipgive me time to reply
01:50:40Doggerpixel a: aaaaaaaAAAAAAAaaaaaaaAAAAAAAaaaaaaa
01:50:51Doggerpixel b: bbbbbbbbBBBBBBBBbbbbbbbbBBBBBBBB
01:50:58Doggercan you see them going out of phase?
01:51:13Bluechipyep
01:51:33Doggerunless you do the mod calculation each time
01:51:38Doggereg have 1 counter,
01:51:45Bluechipat couunter position 8 A=1 and B=0
01:51:46Doggerthen for pixel a calculate counter % 7
01:52:05Doggerand pixel b calculate counter % 8
01:52:10Doggerbut thats cpu intensive
01:52:13Bluechipso you are only saying that maintaining 112x64 counters is FASTER than mod
01:52:19Doggeryes
01:52:25Doggera lot faster
01:52:34Doggerthan doing one mod per pixel
01:54:19Bluechipbut you have a whole bunch of memory address calculations and access cycles!?
01:54:35Doggeryeah but mod is expensive
01:54:44Doggeranyway try it
01:55:13Bluechipa quick reword should offer an AND solution, then we are down to one instruction
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02:03:28BluechipNeed to find out how many grey scales we have ...hmmm
02:03:32Bluechipmaybe in the source?
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06:02:31PetoricAnyone know where I can find a replacement screen for my archos?
06:02:46PetoricMine ist kaput.
06:12:17scott666have you searched the mailing list archives?
06:12:23Doggerwhat model?
06:12:30scott666im sure someone else asked that recently
06:12:34scott666recorder
06:17:39PetoricI read that there was someone out there who had contacted archos and both archos and Dixon told them it was Somebody Else's Problem.
06:18:35scott666someone found a manufacturer that sold them in small amounts
06:18:56PetoricWhat month was that? I'm looking at the mailing-list archive right now.
06:20:11scott666i cant remember
06:20:15scott666use the search feature
06:20:20PetoricWhere is that?
06:20:32Petoricoh, just the site-search?
06:20:36scott666yeah
06:24:13PetoricCan you give me any more clues about this thread? There are a few dead-end threads here with no resolution.
06:24:31scott666no, sorry. thats all i remember
06:24:44scott666you could just google the model number
06:25:00Doggerfind the lcd on google
06:25:12Doggerif you find the model # on back of lcd,
06:25:15Doggercan prolly find it
06:25:25DoggerI found the av300 LCD part number some time ago,
06:25:37scott666froogle.google.com too
06:25:51Petoricgood ideas, thanks.
06:35:47PetoricHave any of you ever taken the LCD off the board?
06:46:20scott666its only attacked to the board with the wires, but no
06:46:37scott666no need
06:55:13PetoricDo I need to seperate the LCD board from the CPU board to get the LCD off?
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07:37:10midknight2k3ANY IDEAS on ripping dvds?
07:38:58dwihnoWell.
07:39:11midknight2k3hey dwihno
07:39:14dwihnohej hej!
07:39:21dwihnoThere's some software called DVD decrypter
07:39:33dwihnoIt will decrypt the DVD VOB's and store them on your disk.
07:39:35midknight2k3smartripper sounds popular
07:39:42midknight2k3but i live in the us, and... "Anyway, to avoid legal problems with U.S. administration, we have to restrict our software archive so that users from United States or from any of its territories are not allowed to download these tools."
07:39:42dwihnoThen you just read one of those millions of guides :)
07:40:01dwihnoTry DVD decrypter
07:40:24midknight2k3i will
07:40:25midknight2k3thanks
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07:42:54midknight2k3hey nibbles
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13:40:16preludeCan anyone help me out with my Archos FM Recorder 20?
13:40:33Nibblerhelp you out?
13:40:35midhaarrockerWhat's your trouble?
13:41:01dwihnoYou need music from the 70's for optimal performance ;)
13:41:06preludeI just got it yesterday charged it for 6 hours and when I hook it into my USB it says *PANIC* disk: NULL
13:41:23dwihnoIs your unit flashed?
13:41:43midhaarrockerWhich OS do you run on your pc?
13:41:55preludewindows XP
13:42:04preludedwihno: im not sure.. i guess not im all new to this
13:42:37midhaarrockerprelude: you would know if you flashed your unit :)
13:42:43preludeoh
13:42:59preludethe rockbox splash screen appears when it starts
13:43:48dwihnoI don't think he flashed it.
13:44:10midhaarrockerNo "Archos Jukebox Recorder" or something similar before the rockbox splash screen?
13:44:16preludenope
13:44:33preludeRockBox ver: FlashEdition
13:45:12dwihno:O
13:45:19midhaarrockerThen you probably did flash it :) But that is irrelevant to your problem anyway.
13:45:31preludeso am i screwed?
13:45:39dwihnomidhaarrocker: well, it might be... I sometimes get disk panic when attaching the disk...
13:46:00midhaarrockerI never had that.
13:46:02dwihnoprelude: Turn the unit off, attach it, and hold F1 while powering the unit up.
13:46:03preludei never touched anything except charging it up so i doubt i flashed it
13:46:06dwihnomidhaarrocker: I had.
13:46:50midhaarrockerprelude: did you install any drivers on your xp machine?
13:46:55preludenope
13:47:04midhaarrockergood.
13:47:40preludeholding F1 while it started didnt seem to do anything
13:49:18midhaarrockerThe F1 trick is to boot the original firmware. You have to rename the ajbrec.ajz file in your root directory first or it will boot the rockbox firmware anyway.
13:49:54preludewhile connecting it to my computer it doesnt detect it either
13:51:36midhaarrockerDoes your recorder display an usb symbol though?
13:51:43preludenope
13:51:49midhaarrockerups
13:52:17midhaarrockerMaybe your usb drivers / cable / usb hardware on your pc is broken.
13:52:44preludedont think so.. im using the usb port that my mouse was in which was workin
13:53:05midhaarrockerI'd recommend to try the unit on a different pc too, to make sure that it is not your isd300 chip that is broken.
13:55:40midhaarrockerCan you play music with your fm recorder?
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15:00:56Quelsarukhi
15:01:00Amplify200Hi quels
15:01:06Quelsaruk:)
15:01:12midhaarrockerHi
15:01:13Amplify200how are you?
15:01:29Quelsaruktired... :P
15:01:39Quelsaruki really need a cup of coffee
15:01:41Amplify200Ive just came back from the Archos website
15:01:46Amplify200the new Gmini220 looks good
15:02:05Quelsaruki haven't seen it yet
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15:05:04Quelsarukhehe
15:05:15Quelsarukmidhaarrocker: btw, could you translate windspeed to english?
15:05:36Quelsarukmy german is quite... *bad*
15:05:38Quelsaruk:D
15:06:27midhaarrockerI intend to make it international somewhen. Not much work, but other things have higher priorities...
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15:06:42Quelsaruklike rockbox :)
15:06:45Amplify200sorry just a hiccup on my connection
15:06:55Quelsarukhehe
15:06:57Quelsarukwe saw it
15:07:05Amplify200yea had to restart the system
15:07:13Amplify200My archos is showing signs of wear now
15:07:19Amplify200have had it for 2 years now
15:07:49Quelsaruki had mine for 3
15:07:53midhaarrockerI hardly know which color mine was originally ... :)
15:07:55Amplify200which one do you have?
15:08:00Quelsarukrecorder 6
15:08:09Amplify200i have a rcorder 10
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15:08:29midhaarrockerI have to go.
15:08:38Quelsarukcu!
15:08:44Amplify200nye
15:08:47Amplify200bye
15:08:50QuelsarukSchnueff: alive?
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15:12:48Quelsarukdoes anyone here use cygwin?
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15:15:57Quelsarukcool netsplit :)
15:16:28Amplify200whats that quels?
15:17:20Quelsaruknetsplit or cygwin?
15:17:28Amplify200the netsplit
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15:17:52Quelsarukthis is a netsplit
15:18:02Amplify200oh okay
15:18:03Quelsarukwhen two or more servers fall
15:18:06Amplify200ahh
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15:18:28Amplify200I have Windows so what would be good to use as a compiler?
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15:19:28Amplify200anyway laterz everyone
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15:57:45Quelsarukcygwin users here?
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16:03:40wethionHey folks. I can't seem to get my archos studio to work in debian. I have kernel 2.6 from debian and I'm running unstable. when I start /etc/init.d/hotplug, I get: Starting hotplug subsystem: input pci** can't synthesize pci hotplug events
16:03:41wethion usb.
16:04:01wethionsorry, don't mean to flood. can anyone help me resolve this?
16:05:38wethionfsck. this sucks. really frustrating.
16:05:53DoggerI use redhat.... just mount it
16:06:50Quelsarukummm
16:06:59Quelsarukdunno
16:07:05Dogger /mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/archos
16:07:24Quelsaruktry asking zagor later.. he uses debian
16:07:52wethionmount tells me that /dev/sde1 is not a valid block device.
16:08:07wethionQuelsaruk: when does he usually come on?
16:08:41Doggertry cat /proc/partitions
16:08:47Quelsaruknormally he's here during the week
16:08:51Doggerit may have set it up as an extra drive
16:08:54Quelsarukzagor (~bjst@1-1-3-36a.sk.sth.bostream.se) signed off 17 hours and 27 minutes ago ("Client exiting")
16:09:05Doggerthen mount /dev/hde1 or whatever
16:09:36Quelsarukumm
16:11:04wethionDogger: it is an extra drive, however, hotplug won't recognize it for some reason.
16:11:32wethionindeed, it's like it's not even plugged in, but the archos shows USB actice.
16:11:35wethionactive even...
16:11:48Quelsarukdid you build your kernel so it supports the isd-200???
16:12:33wethionQuelsaruk: it's a Debian kernel.. how do I check to see if isd-200 is installed, either as a module or compiled in the kernel/
16:12:35wethion?
16:12:41Quelsarukhttp://bjorn.haxx.se/isd200/
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16:13:03dwihnoDogger: Congratulations to the progress with AVOS.
16:13:05Quelsarukyou have to build a new kernel
16:13:18Quelsaruki have to go
16:13:19Quelsarukcu later
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16:13:40Doggerthanks dwihno
16:13:49Doggermy av300 now has a cool bootloader :)
16:13:59Doggershould be able to release it soon as well
16:14:07Doggerif I get a few alpha testers to ok it
16:14:17dwihnoAre the guys at Archos still trying to make you stop?
16:15:03Doggerhaven't heard from their lawyer since mid december
16:15:21dwihnoah.
16:15:25DoggerI emailed him back explaining how he had got the points of the dmca wrong
16:15:30Doggerhe never replied
16:16:35dwihnoAh.
16:23:07wethionOk, I do have the isd-200 module installedl.. It's compiled in.
16:25:27wethionso I guess strictly speaking it's not a module anymore is it...
16:25:28wethion:)
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16:31:26wethionDogger: who here uses debian? I forget who I'm supposed to be looking for.
16:33:20DoggerZagor
16:48:34wethionZagor?
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17:42:28Amplify200What is the average lifespan of a laptop hard-drive?
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17:51:23gzhi
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17:52:09gzare you dev's still looking for some MAS 35xx-docs?
17:52:21Amplify200yea gz we are
17:52:34Amplify200Do you have them by any chance?
17:52:43gzhave a look at the pdf's and zip's on http://krt.neobee.net/PNRS/DSPkurs/DSP_kurs.html
17:52:48Amplify200ok thanks
17:52:58Amplify200Does this apply for the existing Recorders?
17:53:25gzshould at least give a start. it's the instruction manual for the 35xx family + a simulator
17:53:46gzthe simulator includes an assembler which should give a decent start into programming
17:53:59Amplify200Why don't you also pass that link onto Zagot or Bagder? Im sure they would find it very useful
17:54:03Amplify200sorry Zagor
17:54:25gzi mailed it to mike dubuc, if you give me their email adresses i'll mail it to them, too
17:54:38Amplify200well Zagor's is bjorn@haxx.se
17:54:41Amplify200i don't know bagders
17:55:01Amplify200Let me know how you get on
17:55:05Amplify200gotta go and do dinner
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19:23:40midknight2k3hi all
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19:26:26midknight2k3hi scott
19:28:15scott666hey
19:28:23scott666i see you arent banned
19:28:35midknight2k3no, not on aol atm. but they unbanned aol anyways
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20:13:22Amplify200hi mid
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20:31:15Amplify20Hi
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20:52:33Amplify200wb
20:53:23Amplify200How long does a laptop hd usually last for?
20:59:07midknight2k3i got a mail from you
20:59:11midknight2k3lets see what it is
20:59:12Amplify200goof
20:59:33midknight2k3ah
20:59:39midknight2k3ill just block the contact
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21:00:10Amplify200ok
21:00:11Amplify200good
21:00:25midknight2k3lmao
21:00:57Amplify200anyway why on earth was I banned simply because of a bug report that was fixed after reported?
21:01:32Amplify200lmao
21:02:00midknight2k3forwarded them to arspy
21:02:06midknight2k3pretty funny
21:02:12Amplify200cool
21:02:27Amplify200was viewing the fun and games on the live log thing
21:03:33Amplify200is "undelete" possible?
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21:06:21midknight2k3AHAA
21:06:25midknight2k3i wont block the contact
21:06:27midknight2k3these are funny
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21:11:53midknight2k3see that ban
21:11:54midknight2k3track
21:11:56midknight2k3thats YOUR
21:11:57midknight2k3ban
21:12:15Amplify200why don't we just get along here
21:13:11Amplify200instead of constantly fighting
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21:14:36 Nick edx is now known as edx{code} (edx@pD9EAA439.dip.t-dialin.net)
21:15:38Amplify200Hi Edx
21:16:00CtcpIgnored 2 channel CTCP requests in 52 seconds at the last flood
21:16:00*edx{code} slaps Amplify200 around a bit with a large trout
21:16:02edx{code}hi
21:16:17midknight2k3hey
21:16:25midknight2k3Amplify200 should be banned
21:16:53Amplify200whats up edx>
21:16:54Amplify200?
21:17:25Amplify200midknight should be shot
21:17:30edx{code}lol, yea right it's your job to say hi edx, midknight2k3, if I change my nick
21:17:46midknight2k3?
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21:18:26edx{code}you often do that :p
21:18:41midknight2k3lol yeah
21:18:54 Quit AciD (Success)
21:18:58midknight2k3but i didnt say that this time
21:19:15edx{code}indeed
21:19:37edx{code}I was wondering whether Amplify200 was you but then I saw you were logged in, too ;p
21:20:05Amplify200anyway you should thank me for a bug that got fixed
21:20:17edx{code}which is? :D
21:20:28Amplify200Problem with the Fx keys when making bookmarks
21:20:28midknight2k3lol
21:20:30midknight2k3i am me
21:20:33midknight2k3amplify is track
21:20:35midknight2k3amplify is banned
21:20:42midknight2k3but he "cleverly" got around it
21:20:48midknight2k3well track is banned
21:20:49Amplify200midknight you are the candidate for the worlds most horrible man
21:21:08edx{code}lol
21:21:19edx{code}btw... can ny1 tell me how I activate the remo control?
21:21:34Amplify200Where does the remote plug into anyway?
21:21:50midknight2k3remote? for ajb?
21:21:54Amplify200yes
21:22:29Amplify200Havent seen mikeholden around for a long time now
21:22:31Amplify200I miss him
21:24:23Amplify200midknight u must have seem him around
21:26:32Amplify200edx u there>
21:26:48edx{code}yea
21:27:01Amplify200What is the remote unit like?
21:27:05Amplify200I was thinking of getting one
21:27:06midknight2k3it should just work
21:27:09midknight2k3ajbrec 20?
21:27:11edx{code}well if it works it's nice
21:27:19edx{code}but I dont know how to enable it
21:27:22edx{code}with rockbox :)
21:27:29Amplify200is its build quality any good?
21:27:33Amplify200is it metal or plastic?
21:27:34midknight2k3oh
21:27:52edx{code}plastic
21:28:06Amplify200i see
21:28:09midknight2k3lol
21:28:13Amplify200Does it work on the FM recorder?
21:28:45edx{code}don't know
21:28:52Amplify200ok cool
21:29:10Amplify200I know on the Sony devices they have a special plug next to the headphone plug for the remote controller
21:29:33edx{code}with the archos you simply use the ear input
21:29:38midknight2k3right
21:29:44midknight2k3that should work for rockbox too
21:29:49Amplify200which means that if you change your make of headphones you lose the remote
21:29:49midknight2k3does it work with archos firmware?
21:29:55Amplify200it does midknight
21:30:13Amplify200 from version 1.27d
21:30:23Amplify200"Added all new features via remote control unit"
21:31:02Amplify200what time is it in seattle?
21:31:34Amplify200edx where u from?
21:32:34edx{code}Germany
21:32:46Amplify200bit closer to me than middy
21:33:57Amplify200im in london edx
21:34:02edx{code}:>
21:34:08edx{code}Londom
21:34:11edx{code}doh
21:34:12edx{code}i mean
21:34:14edx{code}London's great
21:34:21Amplify200Yea lots of nice sights
21:34:31edx{code}I've been there for a weekend recently
21:34:54Amplify200really?
21:34:58Amplify200what part did u visit?
21:35:03edx{code}harrods :D
21:35:23Amplify200yea
21:35:26edx{code}well I was visting a friend in bishops stortford... we went to cambridge the one day and to london the other
21:35:28Amplify200very expensive place
21:35:34Amplify200I used to live in bishops
21:35:37edx{code}didn't have that much time.. like a few hours
21:35:41Amplify200lol
21:35:53Amplify200midknight has fallen out with me again edx
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21:35:54edx{code}London Eye of course
21:36:07Amplify200u wouldn't get me on that
21:36:12edx{code}hehe
21:36:15midknight2k3hi jet
21:36:25Amplify200hellojett
21:36:26edx{code}it's really a nice view from up there!
21:36:27Amplify200jet
21:36:30Amplify200i can imagine
21:37:49Amplify200plug a usb joystick into the archos for easier gameplay
21:37:50Amplify200lol
21:38:45Amplify200something mid may file
21:38:46Amplify200lol
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21:43:42midknight2k3what now tack
21:43:45midknight2k3track
21:44:02Amplify200im getting bored with that name mid
21:44:23midknight2k3"oi"
21:44:46Amplify200;-)
21:47:15Amplify200mid?
21:48:18Amplify200hello
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21:48:56Amplify200what the hell......
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21:51:20Amplify200jirc doesnt' work
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21:51:53Amplify200Hi JoshN
21:54:47preludecan anyone help me with my archos fm recorder 20?
21:54:55midknight2k3i can
21:54:59midknight2k3what's the issue?
21:55:10preludei think i talked to you earlier midknight but i had to go to school
21:55:42midknight2k3ok
21:55:45preludei just got it yesterday.. charged it for 6 hours and when i turn it on it says *PANIC* disk: NULL
21:55:55Timbelshey midknight :D
21:56:02midknight2k3hey Timbels!
21:56:07Timbelshow are you!
21:56:08preludeand a red light is blinking
21:56:20midknight2k3prelude: that means basically the disk isnt spinning up or there is none
21:56:23midknight2k3(or it cannot read it)
21:56:28midknight2k3Timbels, good. you?
21:56:39preludeso what do i do to fix it?
21:56:46midknight2k3does the drive spin up?
21:56:52preludei think so
21:57:06preludeif i put my ear to it i can hear something
21:57:09preludelike a high pitch sound
21:57:37midknight2k3do you feel anything?
21:57:50midknight2k3and does the high pitched sound get louder, like it's spinning up?
21:58:06preludeyeah when i first turn it on you can feel something.. and no it doesnt get louder
21:58:26midknight2k3hrm
21:58:29midknight2k3have you flashed rockbox?
21:58:34midknight2k3i'm guessing not...
21:58:40preludewhen i hook it into my usb port its not detected
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21:59:04preludetried 3 different usb cords (2 of them im 100% sure works), and 2 diff comps both of which i know the usb plugs are working
21:59:15Amplify200Hi timbels and prelude
22:00
22:00:02midknight2k3have you got a microphone to record the noise?
22:00:10preludeyeah sure
22:00:11preludei can try
22:00:43midknight2k3thanks
22:00:46midknight2k3may help me understand
22:00:55Amplify200lol
22:00:57Amplify200understad
22:03:08preludeuh i tried but you cant make out anything from it
22:03:59midknight2k3hrrrm
22:04:20Amplify200how do I go about flashing the box?
22:05:45preludeso the unit is pretty much toasted then?
22:06:09Amplify200whats up with it prelude?
22:06:36preludeAmplify200: not detected when i hook it up to my usb, only get an error message when i turn it on
22:06:38midknight2k3no
22:06:58Amplify200do u plug the usb before or after turning it on?
22:07:19preludebefore cus it turns on when i hook it into the usb
22:07:28preludebut ive tried both
22:07:37Amplify200sounds like a hardware issue
22:07:39midknight2k3ok prelude
22:07:42Amplify200tried contacting archos about it?
22:07:43midknight2k3curious of something
22:07:49midknight2k3did you flash rockbox?
22:08:01preludemidknight2k3: nope
22:08:08preludeall ive done so far is charge it.. nothing else
22:08:13Amplify200midknight knows a lot about flashing
22:08:21midknight2k3wait
22:08:31preludeit says it has RockBox and it says Ver: FlashEdition
22:08:33midknight2k3so the archos firmware says "Panic: Disk NULL"?
22:08:36preludewhen i start it up
22:08:43preludeyes
22:08:48prelude*PANIC*
22:08:51preludedisk: NULL
22:09:11midknight2k3thats not right
22:09:16midknight2k3rockbox is not installed?
22:09:34preludeit must be .. it has a Rockbox splash screen when i turn it on
22:09:43midknight2k3right when you do
22:09:44preludeROCKbox
22:09:46midknight2k3or after a bit
22:09:47preludeVer. FlashEdition
22:09:53midknight2k3rotfl
22:09:57midknight2k3where did you get this?
22:09:59preluderight when i turn it on
22:10:12preludeNot sure parents bought me it
22:10:32midknight2k3and you got it brand new?
22:10:48preludeyep was sealed in orginal package and all
22:10:55midknight2k3no way
22:11:11midknight2k3well maybe they got it off ebay or something and the guys decided to "seal" it
22:11:14Timbels[21:56] <midknight2k3> Timbels, good. you? <−− sorry phone ;)
22:11:19Timbelsgood too yeah
22:11:21Timbelshehe
22:11:22preludewasnt ebay
22:11:31preludeohhh
22:11:35preluderead what you said wrong
22:11:36midknight2k3:)
22:11:40Amplify200:)
22:11:43preludeso they sold me a junked unit
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22:11:52midknight2k3bagder hi!
22:11:57Amplify200Hi Bagder
22:11:59Bagderhey
22:12:21midknight2k3prelude just got a unit that was claimed new but in fact has rockbox flashed on it
22:12:32preludebastards
22:12:38Bagdergosh
22:12:38preludeso what do i do?
22:12:45Amplify200Hi Bagder
22:13:15midknight2k3hrm
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22:13:23midknight2k3well i'm guessing archos didnt flash that
22:13:25midknight2k3lol
22:13:45BagderAmplify200: you're not welcome here, go away
22:14:07Amplify200hi bag
22:14:17Mode"#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
22:14:19preludeso what am i going to have to do to fix it? or its unfixable
22:14:28midknight2k3prelude: it's hard to say
22:14:33Bagderfix what?
22:14:40Amplify200no i wont' bag
22:14:40midknight2k3his archos
22:14:45midknight2k3bagder can probably help, prelude
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22:14:58Kick(#rockbox Amplify200 :Bagder) by Bagder!~daniel@c25025a.hud.bostream.se
22:15:09preludealright
22:15:10midknight2k3da da!
22:15:14midknight2k3thats all aol users!
22:15:21preludeBagder: just got a archos fm recorder 20 gig
22:15:27preludecharged it for 6 hours and when i turn it on it says *PANIC* disk: NULL
22:15:34 Nick Bagder is now known as Bagder_ (~daniel@c25025a.hud.bostream.se)
22:15:35midknight2k3must be a dead disk
22:15:45preludegrr
22:16:02midknight2k3i'm not sure, but its likely from what i've experience
22:16:03midknight2k3d
22:16:11Bagder_prelude: insert the USB cable first, then the charger
22:16:21preludeok
22:16:23Bagder_uhm
22:16:24Bagder_or
22:16:47Bagder_press F1 when you insert the charger to boot into archos
22:16:54Bagder_if that's how its setup
22:17:04midknight2k3yeah!
22:17:05midknight2k3thats it
22:17:08midknight2k3i was gonna say that
22:17:16midknight2k3but forgot when you came in
22:17:22midknight2k3yes that allows you UMS no matter what the issue
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22:17:32midknight2k3hi idc
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22:17:52midknight2k3LOL
22:18:07preludenothing happens when i hold F1
22:18:17midknight2k3hold f1 and put in the charger
22:18:19[IDC]Dragonplease, what is this banning about?
22:18:27Mode"#rockbox +b *!*icechat*@*.ipt.aol.com " by Bagder_ (~daniel@c25025a.hud.bostream.se)
22:18:38Bagder_getting tracktheripper outside
22:18:42Timbelshmm
22:18:43midknight2k3there you go bagder
22:18:44Timbelslol
22:18:45preludeok that workd midknight2k3
22:18:52midknight2k3prelude: what does it say?
22:18:55preludeit says
22:18:57midknight2k3it should allow you to usb
22:18:58arspy87wont *!*@*.ipt.aol.com suffice?
22:19:03[IDC]Dragonwhat did he do?
22:19:04midknight2k3no
22:19:07preludeARCHOS Jukebox charging...
22:19:07midknight2k3thats all of aol
22:19:08midknight2k3arsp
22:19:15midknight2k3prelude: hit ON
22:19:29preludeATA error: -11
22:19:32preludepress on to DEBUG
22:19:33arspy87all of aol is banned already anyway
22:19:35midknight2k3er
22:19:38midknight2k3when its charging
22:19:41midknight2k3hold F1 and hit on
22:19:43Mode"#rockbox -b *!*@*.ipt.aol.com " by Bagder_ (~daniel@c25025a.hud.bostream.se)
22:19:45midknight2k3turn it off
22:19:46Mode"#rockbox +b *!*icechat*@*.ipt.aol.com " by Bagder_ (~daniel@c25025a.hud.bostream.se)
22:19:49Mode"#rockbox -b *!*jirc@*.ipt.aol.com " by Bagder_ (~daniel@c25025a.hud.bostream.se)
22:19:51Timbelswhats up with that guy badger>?
22:20:15Bagder_he's done his last funny stuff
22:20:23[IDC]Dragonwhich is?
22:20:24preludealright
22:20:34midknight2k3a bit childish
22:20:37preludeFile system error No valid fat16/32 file system found
22:20:40preludeplease format drive
22:20:41Bagder_as a matter of fact, I don't know exactly what triggered zagor's ban
22:20:43[IDC]Dragon(please excuse my curiosity)
22:20:50Bagder_but I read the mail he sent zagor after that
22:20:55midknight2k3ooh what?
22:20:56Bagder_and that alone gives me my motive
22:21:00arspy87??
22:21:02midknight2k3do we get to see?
22:21:04midknight2k3:)
22:21:06arspy87:-D
22:21:06Bagder_not from me
22:21:18midknight2k3well i understand
22:21:20preludedid you guys catch that?
22:21:25midknight2k3sorry
22:21:29midknight2k3prelude
22:21:34midknight2k3is there an option for usb?
22:21:39midknight2k3like for f1 or something
22:21:46preludenope
22:21:48midknight2k3ok wait
22:21:50preludethats everything it says on the screen
22:21:51Bagder_prelude: do that while having your USB connected to your computer
22:21:52midknight2k3turn it all off
22:21:58midknight2k3hold f1
22:22:02midknight2k3and put in USB
22:22:06midknight2k3then when it boots put in charger
22:22:22[IDC]DragonBagder: I'd like a little tool talk
22:22:35preludeyes
22:22:37preludeit has a symbol
22:22:41preludeand it got detected!!
22:22:44midknight2k3ok
22:22:47midknight2k3you're on usb now
22:23:06Bagder_prelude: now make a fat32 parition and format it
22:23:06preludeok
22:23:14midknight2k3yes
22:23:18midknight2k3right click the drive in My Computer
22:23:19Bagder_[IDC]Dragon: tool talk! ;-)
22:23:21midknight2k3press Format
22:23:24preludedo i have to reboot first?
22:23:31midknight2k3and choose "Quick Erase" and "FAT32"
22:23:31midknight2k3no
22:23:35preludei dont see a drive in my computer
22:23:40preludebut it got detected and installed
22:23:40midknight2k3er
22:23:41[IDC]DragonI may come up with a different way of flashing, in case you haven't seen that
22:23:45midknight2k3it should be
22:23:55Bagder_[IDC]Dragon: I've read about it, yes
22:23:55midknight2k3hrm prelude
22:24:01midknight2k3idc: how?
22:24:10[IDC]Dragonthe "const" police ;)
22:24:28preludeit says in the manual to reboot after its installed
22:24:57midknight2k3 −−−−- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors −−−−-
22:24:58midknight2k3<jjtye@aol.com>
22:24:58[IDC]Dragonmidknight2k3: running directly from flash ROM, saves the RAM copy of code and constants
22:24:59midknight2k3odd
22:25:10midknight2k3ooh is it safer then?
22:25:29[IDC]DragonBagder: uclpack needs an update to produce uncompressed ucl
22:25:40[IDC]DragonI did that locally here
22:25:40preludehmm usb mass storage device is in my hardware and says its working properly
22:25:54Bagder_[IDC]Dragon: aha, now I get where you're heading! ;-)
22:26:03[IDC]Dragonmidknight2k3: no, it requires less memory
22:26:06midknight2k3perlude
22:26:09midknight2k3prelude, sorry
22:26:15midknight2k3do you see it in explorer now?
22:26:25preludenope
22:26:37arspy87reboot windows? maybe?
22:26:38[IDC]DragonBut I'm not sure if we really want to ga that way
22:26:47preludei think a reboot might work
22:26:47[IDC]Dragonga=go
22:26:47midknight2k3hm
22:26:54midknight2k3go ahead and try
22:26:59preludealright ill brb
22:27:02midknight2k3:)
22:27:03Bagder_[IDC]Dragon: you mean to modify uclpack?
22:27:06 Quit prelude ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.8 :: www.XLhost.de )")
22:27:13[IDC]DragonBagder_: yes
22:27:15Bagder_why not?
22:27:42[IDC]DragonI'd like to send my minor change back to the author
22:28:31[IDC]DragonBagder_: I kept ucl as the flash format, although it doesn't make too much sense
22:29:07[IDC]DragonIt's reduced to a header and a trailing checksum if uncompressed
22:29:13Bagder_hehe
22:29:32[IDC]DragonBut keeps a consistent toolchain
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22:30:17preludehmm that didnt work
22:30:19arspy87does it work?
22:30:21arspy87aww :(
22:30:26[IDC]DragonAnother question: if our tools are modified, does the automated build re-make them?
22:30:27arspy87windows xp?
22:30:31preludeyes
22:30:31Bagder_well, if the author doesn't want your fix, its easy to keep a modified version of it for our purposes
22:30:38arspy87logged on as admin?
22:30:42preludeis it a problem that i have 5 different partitions?
22:30:42midknight2k3arsp
22:30:43preludeyes
22:30:43midknight2k3LMAO
22:30:51midknight2k3ok wait
22:30:57Bagder_[IDC]Dragon: yes
22:31:00arspy87could try the whole reconnect cycle again
22:31:04preludek
22:31:06Bagder_[IDC]Dragon: we run make in the tools dir every time
22:31:23[IDC]Dragonand the tools first, I hope?
22:31:27Bagder_yes
22:31:39midknight2k3track is crazy
22:31:40[IDC]Dragongood.
22:32:11[IDC]DragonRockbox lacks "const" in many places, not so good if running from ROM
22:32:23Bagder_I figure
22:32:26preludedidnt work arspy
22:32:35[IDC]Dragonthe tools generate the font and language strings without
22:32:46preludei heard the noise xp makes when you connect plug and play hardware though
22:32:58preludemaybe i need to assign it a drive letter?
22:33:13arspy87coul try that
22:33:16arspy87could
22:33:23preludei dont know how though
22:33:39arspy87me neither lol
22:34:19midknight2k3well
22:34:19[IDC]Dragonchanging that will probably generate a ton of warnings
22:34:22midknight2k3no prelude
22:34:33midknight2k3the reason is most likely a dead disk
22:34:33[IDC]Dragonunless the other stuff is changed, too
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22:35:01Bagder_yes, it'll take some changes
22:35:08preludehmm
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22:35:17midknight2k3crap
22:35:19preludewell it gets detected and says device is working
22:35:28preludeso the hard disk is toast?
22:35:29[IDC]Dragonthat's the part I don't like so much
22:35:37midknight2k3well
22:35:41midknight2k3if its working wheres the drive letter?
22:35:57[IDC]DragonI may reduce my priority on this...
22:35:59midknight2k3i'm guessing it sees the ajb, but sees no disk inside so it just refrains from giving a letter
22:36:36[IDC]Dragonspace in the ROM is rather tight for an uncompressed image
22:36:51[IDC]Dragonfor the recorder, only 4KB left
22:37:01preludedamn
22:37:34[IDC]DragonThe FM probably doesn't fit any mor yet, the Archos (and Rockbox) firmware is larger for that one
22:37:47[IDC]DragonRockbox could need a diet
22:37:52midknight2k3no
22:37:53midknight2k3lol
22:37:55midknight2k3HEY
22:37:57midknight2k3i got an idea
22:38:03midknight2k3lets make recording a plugin
22:38:07midknight2k3OHH let me run this by you
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22:38:21midknight2k3tracks
22:38:23midknight2k3thats track*
22:38:44Bagder_"Fuck you and your mum you swedish cunt"
22:38:44preludeso you guys got any ideas?
22:38:48Bagder_his mail to me
22:38:53midknight2k3my god
22:39:01midknight2k3he sent me the same type thing
22:39:19[IDC]Dragonwhat's wrong with him?
22:40:16[IDC]Dragondo you filter him in the mailing list, too?
22:40:28Bagder_he never posts there anyway
22:40:36midknight2k3there must be a way to stop this
22:40:50[IDC]Dragonstrange...
22:43:02midknight2k3well anyways i had an idea
22:43:10[IDC]Dragonwe need a track watchdog then
22:43:17midknight2k3i could!
22:43:29midknight2k3i'm here often
22:43:39[IDC]Dragonautomatically kick anybody who mentions Mike Holden
22:43:49midknight2k3and i definitely know when its him. "ooh i held a Gmini today" "mikeholden is an arse"
22:43:50[IDC]Dragonthat'll do
22:44:01midknight2k3but but ok heres the idea
22:44:07midknight2k3on this rca lyra flash player
22:44:11midknight2k3(UMS)
22:44:15midknight2k3usb mass storage*
22:44:23midknight2k3it had a folder LYRA_SYS
22:44:26midknight2k3and in it
22:44:30midknight2k3different stuff for the firmware
22:44:33midknight2k3like MPEG.exe
22:44:36midknight2k3and WMA.exe
22:44:43midknight2k3like it ran the exe to play the file
22:44:45arspy87oh?
22:44:46midknight2k3rather, called
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22:44:52midknight2k3i thought that was interesting idea
22:44:55midknight2k3LinusN, hey
22:45:00arspy87hey LinusN
22:45:13[IDC]Dragon\o/ Linus
22:45:18LinusNyo
22:45:24midknight2k3just mised my idea :)
22:45:39LinusNrecording plugin?
22:45:51midknight2k3ok on this lyra player i had a bit ago, it had a folder LYRA_SYS with utilities in it... "MP3.exe" and "WMA.exe" etc
22:46:06midknight2k3like it called the exe files for the file being played
22:46:08midknight2k3like the viewer
22:46:15[IDC]Dragonrecording is not so much code
22:46:23midknight2k3well what if we did that for rockbox? made it call an app in .rockbox?
22:46:27[IDC]Dragonbut cool code ;)
22:46:34midknight2k3that would decode the file and play it
22:46:52preludethanks for the help guys
22:46:54[IDC]DragonI have a plugin that plays mp3 ;)
22:46:57midknight2k3track alert
22:47:20midknight2k3uh
22:47:24midknight2k3so is this posible?
22:47:26Mode"#rockbox +b *!*@ACBB8292.ipt.aol.com " by Bagder_ (~daniel@c25025a.hud.bostream.se)
22:47:40Kick(#rockbox leavemealone :Bagder_) by Bagder_!~daniel@c25025a.hud.bostream.se
22:47:45arspy87nice
22:47:48midknight2k3lol
22:47:51midknight2k3this will be hard
22:47:58 Nick Bagder_ is now known as Bagderr (~daniel@c25025a.hud.bostream.se)
22:48:09midknight2k3whats with the odd nicks, bagder?
22:48:09preludedoes radio shack sell archos?
22:48:13[IDC]Dragonstrange game
22:48:16BagderrI avoid his /msg
22:48:18midknight2k3i dont think so.
22:48:19Timbelswell otherwise he msg hi,
22:48:20Timbels;)
22:48:24midknight2k3Bagderr: ignore him
22:48:26Timbelshi=him
22:48:31midknight2k3if you use xchat
22:49:16Bagderrmidknight2k3: I'm set invisible from outside of the channel
22:49:18arspy87or trillian
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22:49:29Bagderrso he can't know my nick
22:49:32midknight2k3ah
22:49:35midknight2k3nice trick
22:49:36midknight2k3lol
22:49:52arspy87bagder: how do you do that?
22:49:55[IDC]Dragonhe can read the logs
22:50:07arspy87he must have no life if he does that
22:50:15Bagderr[IDC]Dragon: I'm not so sure he can ;-)
22:50:28Bagderrarspy87: user mode +i
22:50:51[IDC]Dragonuser mode +i
22:51:06midknight2k3Bagderr: just do /ignore *!icechat5@* ALL QUIET for xchat
22:51:22Bagderrgood idea
22:51:31arspy87how do i change my user mode? sorry im a newb
22:51:38midknight2k3 arsp: dont use trillcrap
22:51:45midknight2k3 xchat is what the devs use!
22:51:48midknight2k3and i
22:51:51arspy87lol
22:52:15arspy87what's the command?
22:52:27midknight2k3well if you need a track moderator i'm here
23:00
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23:02:59*midknight2k3 scans for imposters
23:03:09midknight2k3oops
23:03:33[IDC]DragonLinusN: do you have an opinion to the "const" police?
23:03:36midknight2k3linus is ok... as is idc.. plus bagder..
23:03:40midknight2k3yay
23:03:43midknight2k3we're safe
23:04:03LinusN[IDC]Dragon: well, if it's constant, it is const
23:04:04[IDC]DragonI'm track, I fooled you !!!! ;)
23:04:29[IDC]DragonLinusN: ahem, yes
23:04:30midknight2k3GOSH
23:04:33midknight2k3KICK HIM
23:04:39midknight2k3lol
23:05:05[IDC]Dragonno, midknight2k3 is track!!
23:05:05LinusNsaving ram for the in-flash execution?
23:05:12midknight2k3GASP
23:05:14[IDC]DragonLinusN: yes
23:05:15midknight2k3I DIDNT KNOW THAT
23:05:19midknight2k3IM INFESTED
23:05:26midknight2k3get me out of here!
23:06:02[IDC]Dragonthe biggest part are the font, language strings and bitmaps/icons
23:06:09midknight2k3ICONS CANT GO
23:06:14midknight2k3lets make an entirely iconned ui
23:06:21[IDC]Dragonmidknight2k3: nothing goes
23:06:28midknight2k3yay
23:06:32midknight2k3lets toss langs
23:06:39midknight2k3nobody uses them
23:06:40[IDC]DragonI'm just avoiding to have them twice in my scenario
23:06:47LinusNgotta go
23:06:50 Part LinusN
23:06:53midknight2k3aww
23:06:54midknight2k3bye
23:07:06[IDC]Dragontoo late
23:07:18midknight2k3AHA
23:07:22*midknight2k3 jumps on methangas
23:07:28midknight2k3you didnt think i knew you were track did you
23:07:38midknight2k3oh wait
23:07:44 Nick [IDC]Dragon is now known as tracktheripper (~idc-drago@p50861671.dip.t-dialin.net)
23:07:45midknight2k3oh maybe not
23:07:47midknight2k3AHA
23:07:52*methangas throws midknight2k3 off
23:07:52midknight2k3we have an impostor here
23:07:58 Nick midknight2k3 is now known as [IDC]Dragon (midknight2@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com)
23:07:59[IDC]Dragonwoots
23:08:05 Nick [IDC]Dragon is now known as midknight2k3 (midknight2@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com)
23:08:06midknight2k3who said that
23:08:11 Nick tracktheripper is now known as [IDC]Dragon (~idc-drago@p50861671.dip.t-dialin.net)
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23:08:30***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
23:08:31*midknight2k3 pounces the other way on logbot
23:08:36midknight2k3AHA! i think i found him
23:08:46arspy87?
23:08:46 Quit prelude ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.8 :: www.XLhost.de )")
23:08:51methangasokay im confused
23:09:01[IDC]Dragonyes, _that's_ a suspicious lurker
23:09:10arspy87who?
23:09:11midknight2k3Real Name: I am the #rockbox log bot
23:09:15[IDC]Dragonlogbot
23:09:16midknight2k3what a fake!
23:09:25arspy87oh?
23:09:47midknight2k3ok i brb
23:09:53 Nick midknight2k3 is now known as midk|trackalert (midknight2@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com)
23:10:10[IDC]DragonI just pm-ed logbot, he's a quiet guy
23:10:10midk|trackalerti wish to help in the security of the channel
23:10:14midk|trackalertwhere do i sign?
23:10:34midk|trackalertok brb really
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23:22:38Bagderrsigh
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23:22:49 Quit methangas (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- s0 d4Mn l33t |t'z 5c4rY!")
23:22:52GuestI DO THIS BECAUSE YOU LOT ALWAYS PICK ON ME
23:22:58Mode"#rockbox +b *!*jirc*@*.ipt.aol.com " by Bagderr (~daniel@c25025a.hud.bostream.se)
23:23:04Kick(#rockbox Guest :Bagderr) by Bagderr!~daniel@c25025a.hud.bostream.se
23:23:30midk|trackalertwhats his issue
23:23:34 Nick midk|trackalert is now known as midknight2k3 (midknight2@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com)
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23:24:09midknight2k3ok wait
23:24:15midknight2k3i have a proposal
23:24:31midknight2k3set mode, +q, on *!*@*.ipt.aol.com
23:24:42midknight2k3then put in the topic, if you wish to speak, message <whoever>
23:25:08Bagderrthat's still annoying
23:25:11midknight2k3yeah
23:25:12Bagderrto admin
23:25:40midknight2k3well i'll volunteer to be a track monitor as i'm around a lot. I can't think of any really effective way to keep him out but innocents in
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23:27:51Chomsky_Has anybody looked at http://krt.neobee.net/PNRS/DSPkurs/DSP_kurs.html yet? It should contain some MAS documentation.
23:28:10BagderrChomsky_: we've taken a look, yes
23:28:15Bagderrit is certainly very interesting
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23:28:27midknight2k3hey zagor
23:28:30*midknight2k3 scans for impostor
23:28:32midknight2k3all clear
23:28:51BagderrZagor: seen that mas docs page?
23:28:52Zagorhi
23:29:01Zagornope. in the mail?
23:29:10Bagderr http://krt.neobee.net/PNRS/DSPkurs/DSP_kurs.html
23:29:32Chomsky_Yes, the simulator also looks very promising :-)
23:29:35[IDC]Dragonlooks very promising!
23:29:37Zagorha!
23:29:41Zagorlovely
23:30:00Bagderrjust no tools, but the docs is there
23:30:13 Nick Bagderr is now known as Bagder (~daniel@c25025a.hud.bostream.se)
23:33:15midknight2k3also, zagor, is it possible to port mpeg decoder to a loadable app (similar to a plugin) that can be stored in .rockbox and called for mp3 playback?
23:33:43Zagori haven't read the docs yet, by my guess is the decoder is much bigger than the programmable area
23:34:07midknight2k3is that in response to the question?
23:34:12Zagoryes
23:34:34midknight2k3a LYRA player i once had had apps in LYRA_SYS folder, in root
23:34:42midknight2k3like FM.exe and MPEG.exe and WMA.exe
23:34:42Zagorwe can have codecs in plugins, but i doubt the chip can really support any useful codec with the small ram it has
23:34:50Timbelszagor u told me to mail my stuff to the mailing list but i haven't got a single reaction about the cue question + patch. Is it because most don't want it, or is it just very hard to look into that old patch?
23:35:09ZagorTimbels: good question :-)
23:35:16Timbels:(
23:35:21Timbelsnot 1 single response
23:35:30midknight2k3yes. i have the patch applied if anybody needs it
23:35:33midknight2k3i can upload it later
23:35:45Timbelsehm i told zagor about it i think midknight2k3
23:35:55Timbelsthats the one wich only goes to the first marker right?
23:35:58midknight2k3oh and zagor, been meaning to ask you, can we merge that ab-repeat patch?
23:36:02midknight2k3yes timbels
23:36:06Timbelsdamn :(
23:36:14midknight2k3i may be able to try it again
23:36:24Zagormidknight2k3: maybe, i haven't looked at it yet
23:36:28Timbelsif you want very plz
23:36:32midknight2k3zagor : i'm willing to update either to current cvs for you to try them
23:36:44midknight2k3they are relatively old
23:38:04Zagorthat would be good, midknight2k3
23:38:13Timbels:)
23:38:56midknight2k3i can do it a bit later, will have to go soon.. perhaps i can upload them later on tonight (your morning)
23:39:19Timbelshehe, its almost midnight here, midknight ;)
23:39:23*midknight2k3 needs a->b repeat badly
23:39:25Zagorsure, do it in your own pace.
23:39:41midknight2k3or, i was thinking it could go with the bookmarking
23:39:57midknight2k3place 2 bookmarks and let them loop
23:39:57Timbelssame here with cue but i don't understand a thing about all that coding :(( timbels can mix records..thats about it
23:40:29Zagormixing repeat and bookmarks would be rather messy, methinks
23:40:47midknight2k3yeah
23:40:59midknight2k3http://archos.com/img/families/static_mp3_music.png <−− that would scare anyone away from a Gmini 220 :)
23:41:43Zagor:)
23:42:06midknight2k3thats a sad slogan.. "Cinema to go with you wherever you go"
23:42:09 Quit oxygen77 ("ChatZilla 0.8.31 [Mozilla rv:1.4/7]")
23:42:21midknight2k3they have an OK product but they need a bit of work in other areas
23:45:49[IDC]Dragonthat MAS info looks great! Who found that?
23:45:58midknight2k3Chomsky_,
23:46:08midknight2k3sorry for that comma
23:46:47Chomsky_Well I can't take the credit, I saw the link i todays RB log.
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23:47:55midknight2k3awww
23:47:58midknight2k3track is emailing me again
23:48:07Bagderhe mails me all the time now too
23:48:15midknight2k3ignore his email
23:48:19midknight2k3he keeps changing it
23:48:19BagderI do
23:48:23midknight2k3sheez
23:48:26midknight2k3what is his problem?
23:48:40Bagderit gets in there among my other junk mail
23:49:10Bagderviagra offers, virus emails, tracker badmouthing... :-)
23:49:17midknight2k3LOL
23:49:32midknight2k3AGAIN
23:50:00midknight2k3now he blames it on me
23:50:06[IDC]DragonZagor: are you looking at that?
23:50:18[IDC]DragonThe simulator does something
23:50:26[IDC]Dragonand it can also assemble
23:50:52midknight2k3good idea bagder
23:51:00midknight2k3u'll just have hotmail dump it all into junk mail
23:51:03midknight2k3i'll*
23:52:10midknight2k3hrm didnt go how i wanted it... blocked outright.. but oh well
23:52:54Bagderprocmail is your friend ;-)
23:53:32Zagor[IDC]Dragon: i'm still downloading :-)
23:54:18[IDC]Dragonwhat language is that? Polish? Hungarian?
23:54:49[IDC]Dragonthe pdf's are in english
23:54:51midknight2k3I can't read it
23:54:52midknight2k3good
23:55:01[IDC]Dragonand they are the interesting ones
23:55:08Chomsky_Did you notice all the confidential stickers? :-)
23:55:09[IDC]Dragonplus the sim
23:55:15[IDC]Dragonyes
23:55:27[IDC]DragonI think this it not supposed to be there
23:55:27midknight2k3lol
23:55:30midknight2k3cool!
23:55:33midknight2k3save it at once
23:55:38midknight2k3before they are taken away
23:55:38Chomsky_I agree
23:55:39[IDC]DragonI did
23:56:26[IDC]Dragonand I checked the "files" directory for more, but that's it
23:57:28midknight2k3GRR
23:57:58Zagorit appears to be hungarian. the author has a .hu email address.
23:58:42midknight2k3lol
23:58:45midknight2k3he reads the logs
23:58:48[IDC]Dragonaha
23:58:56midknight2k3sadly

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