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| 05:46:38 | midknight2k3 | hey dogger |
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| 05:53:19 | NJoin | Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) |
| 05:59:48 | elinenbe | http://www.archos.com/products/overview/gmini_220.html |
| 05:59:59 | midknight2k3 | i know |
| 06:00 |
| 06:00:01 | midknight2k3 | but wait |
| 06:00:05 | midknight2k3 | want to see something neat |
| 06:00:26 | midknight2k3 | wait |
| 06:00:29 | midknight2k3 | PHOTO VIEWER? |
| 06:01:14 | midknight2k3 | WOW archos did summat right for a change |
| 06:04:00 | dwihno | \o/ |
| 06:04:13 | midknight2k3 | thats pretty cool |
| 06:04:26 | Dogger | ? |
| 06:04:30 | Dogger | av300 is way better |
| 06:04:34 | Dogger | and not much more money |
| 06:04:37 | midknight2k3 | i know |
| 06:04:39 | midknight2k3 | but its cool |
| 06:04:40 | Dogger | gmini is only greyscale |
| 06:04:42 | Dogger | eugh |
| 06:04:50 | midknight2k3 | im getting one dont worry dogger |
| 06:04:54 | midknight2k3 | but its still cool |
| 06:04:58 | midknight2k3 | god they need some good coders |
| 06:05:04 | midknight2k3 | their products rock |
| 06:05:09 | midknight2k3 | but the firmware = teh suck |
| 06:05:37 | dwihno | Does the new gmini use some special kind of hard disk? |
| 06:06:43 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 06:06:47 | midknight2k3 | like the Rio Karma |
| 06:07:24 | dwihno | 1.8" |
| 06:07:40 | dwihno | Damn I love hardware evolution! :D |
| 06:07:54 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 06:08:15 | dwihno | Not that there is something "wrong" with 2.5"... :-) |
| 06:08:42 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 06:08:53 | * | midknight2k3 points at dwinho, 2.5" user |
| 06:09:01 | dwihno | :-) |
| 06:09:15 | dwihno | I got 3 2.5" disks \o/ |
| 06:09:45 | dwihno | I always keep my screwdriver around, just in case I need to switch music collection |
| 06:09:48 | dwihno | ;-) |
| 06:09:57 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 06:10:34 | dwihno | I guess they use some special kind of battery... *sigh* |
| 06:10:56 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 06:11:34 | dwihno | Well, as long as you can replace them... |
| 06:11:41 | midknight2k3 | you can't |
| 06:12:02 | dwihno | Not even with the 220? |
| 06:12:12 | dwihno | Dogger: How is the battery performance on the AV units? |
| 06:12:13 | midknight2k3 | nope its all proprietary |
| 06:12:16 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 06:12:17 | midknight2k3 | curious |
| 06:12:51 | Dogger | dwihno: variable |
| 06:12:59 | Dogger | I plan to fix mine soon |
| 06:13:04 | dwihno | "fix"? :) |
| 06:13:10 | Dogger | I have had a 320, and 2 340s |
| 06:13:14 | Dogger | the first 2 were brill |
| 06:13:20 | Dogger | lasted 8 hours for mp3s, |
| 06:13:25 | Dogger | and about 4 for video |
| 06:13:30 | dwihno | hm |
| 06:13:32 | Dogger | this one is much less |
| 06:13:39 | Dogger | I dont think the battery is making good contact |
| 06:13:46 | Dogger | I have ordered a spare battery for it as well |
| 06:13:58 | dwihno | So the batteries are somewhat replaceable... |
| 06:14:08 | midknight2k3 | wha |
| 06:14:14 | midknight2k3 | they give spares |
| 06:14:14 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 06:14:30 | dwihno | Perhaps for certain models. |
| 06:15:16 | dwihno | Dogger: where did you order the spare battery? |
| 06:15:38 | midknight2k3 | archos i'd guess |
| 06:16:32 | dwihno | Has there been any notes about Rockbox on the Gmini models? |
| 06:16:39 | dwihno | (in the mailing list) |
| 06:16:40 | midknight2k3 | they are working on it |
| 06:16:43 | midknight2k3 | hrm |
| 06:16:46 | midknight2k3 | i need to speak to the devsx |
| 06:16:48 | midknight2k3 | devs* |
| 06:16:52 | midknight2k3 | specifically zagor |
| 06:18:08 | dwihno | Zagor rules \o/ :) |
| 06:18:26 | Dogger | http://store.l-f-l.com/cgi-bin/cp-app.cgi?rrc=N&pg=prod&ref=102511 |
| 06:18:31 | Dogger | archos av300 battery |
| 06:18:36 | midknight2k3 | zagor rules |
| 06:18:38 | midknight2k3 | track is a jerk |
| 06:18:42 | midknight2k3 | za. gor. rules. |
| 06:18:48 | midknight2k3 | track. isa. jerk. |
| 06:18:50 | midknight2k3 | za. gor. rules. |
| 06:18:51 | midknight2k3 | track. isa. jerk. |
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| 06:24:56 | midknight2k3 | hi joshn |
| 06:25:11 | joshN | hi |
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| 06:41:18 | dwihno | I wonder what Archos has against the open source movement. |
| 06:41:37 | dwihno | It's not like we're decreasing their profit... |
| 06:42:07 | midknight2k3 | definitely not |
| 06:42:29 | midknight2k3 | they are insulted to know the firmware they spent years coding and getting nowhere with is being replaced by a better one within weeks |
| 06:42:43 | midknight2k3 | and the fact that the AVos team and ROCKbox team are much more fluent in C than their team |
| 06:43:24 | dwihno | Well... They _ARE_ french ;-) |
| 06:43:34 | midknight2k3 | its like |
| 06:43:54 | dwihno | If there only was some way to work together with the Archos devs'. |
| 06:43:54 | midknight2k3 | " võid maìn(); " |
| 06:43:57 | midknight2k3 | LOL |
| 06:44:09 | midknight2k3 | ERROR: try not to use accents punk" |
| 06:44:16 | midknight2k3 | oh did you hear bluechips error it was so funny |
| 06:44:33 | midknight2k3 | "Error: settings_menu.c: 60: No error" or something like that |
| 06:47:01 | dwihno | (?) :) |
| 06:47:27 | midknight2k3 | error compiling rockbox |
| 06:47:30 | midknight2k3 | something like that |
| 06:47:44 | midknight2k3 | Error: <file>: <line>: No error |
| 06:50:28 | dwihno | neato :) |
| 06:50:33 | dwihno | I love errors |
| 06:50:39 | dwihno | I AM ERROR. |
| 06:50:41 | midknight2k3 | esp "no error" errors |
| 06:50:48 | dwihno | You know which game I'm quoting? :) |
| 06:50:56 | midknight2k3 | no |
| 06:51:11 | dwihno | Zelda 2. |
| 06:51:15 | dwihno | Nintendo 8-bit. |
| 06:51:28 | midknight2k3 | wow |
| 06:51:32 | midknight2k3 | how do i fix it |
| 06:51:53 | dwihno | "Fix"? |
| 06:53:11 | midknight2k3 | tff |
| 06:53:14 | midknight2k3 | dwinho is funny |
| 06:53:17 | midknight2k3 | are you a coder? |
| 06:53:39 | dwihno | Well, according to you, I'm a comedian ;) |
| 06:53:48 | midknight2k3 | yes you are |
| 06:53:50 | midknight2k3 | look at you |
| 06:53:52 | midknight2k3 | zelda player |
| 06:54:32 | dwihno | Well, I don't do coding for a living anymore. Now it's just a hobby of mine. |
| 06:56:04 | midknight2k3 | yay |
| 06:56:08 | midknight2k3 | is this correct code? |
| 06:56:31 | midknight2k3 | if(dwinho=happy) midk_glad(); else midk_mad(); |
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| 06:57:55 | dwihno | heh |
| 06:58:18 | midknight2k3 | ? |
| 06:58:41 | dwihno | The compiler will probably warn you, but it's a correct statement |
| 06:58:56 | midknight2k3 | why would it warn me? |
| 06:59:02 | midknight2k3 | comparing variable to variable? |
| 06:59:52 | midknight2k3 | or an implicit declaration |
| 06:59:54 | midknight2k3 | whatever that means |
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| 07:01:27 | dwihno | It isn't really a comparison. |
| 07:01:42 | * | midknight2k3 <dot dot dot>s |
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| 13:37:16 | c0utta | hey kurzhaarrocker, have you used bagder's strtok_r function before ? |
| 13:37:38 | kurzhaarrocker | yes, heavily |
| 13:38:11 | c0utta | ok. if i have a string "512;1;;75" i would expect: |
| 13:38:14 | c0utta | 512 |
| 13:38:16 | c0utta | 1 |
| 13:38:22 | c0utta | <blank> |
| 13:38:23 | c0utta | 75 |
| 13:38:33 | c0utta | using ; as the delimeter |
| 13:38:51 | kurzhaarrocker | I'm not sure about the blank though... |
| 13:39:05 | * | kurzhaarrocker looks into acient code |
| 13:39:07 | c0utta | yeah, i'm getting: |
| 13:39:12 | c0utta | 512 |
| 13:39:13 | c0utta | 1 |
| 13:39:15 | c0utta | 75 |
| 13:39:28 | c0utta | it *sounds* like a bug to me |
| 13:39:37 | c0utta | maybe it's by design tho.. |
| 13:40:04 | kurzhaarrocker | The thing is that you can specify multiple delimiter characters, which may occur in sequence. Think about whitespace as delimiter. |
| 13:41:07 | kurzhaarrocker | If you wanted whitespace delimiter you'd want any sequence of tabs and spaces to be _one_ delimiter. So for that task strtok_r works as desired. |
| 13:41:10 | c0utta | i'll be parsing filenames so need whitespace |
| 13:41:31 | c0utta | i suppose tab would work in isolation |
| 13:41:49 | * | c0utta runs a test |
| 13:44:08 | c0utta | nope, tabs don't work in isolation |
| 13:44:27 | kurzhaarrocker | see at man strtok - the behaviour that multiple subsequent delimiters are used as one is defined there. |
| 13:45:06 | c0utta | at man strtok ? |
| 13:45:31 | kurzhaarrocker | strtok_r is just a special variant of strtok, the man page is the same |
| 13:45:58 | kurzhaarrocker | In rockbox only strtok_r is implemented. |
| 13:46:08 | c0utta | excuse my ignorance, but what is the "man page" ? |
| 13:46:49 | kurzhaarrocker | the online help. Type "man strtok" at the command line in linux / cygwin |
| 13:47:19 | c0utta | bash: man: command not found |
| 13:47:39 | c0utta | i don't have a full cygwin |
| 13:47:43 | kurzhaarrocker | :) |
| 13:48:24 | kurzhaarrocker | Can you receive dcc? |
| 13:48:37 | c0utta | depends on file type |
| 13:49:05 | kurzhaarrocker | Text only |
| 13:49:19 | c0utta | no problem |
| 13:51:05 | kurzhaarrocker | "Trying to establish file transfer" |
| 13:51:14 | kurzhaarrocker | Do you receive anything? |
| 13:51:39 | kurzhaarrocker | pong |
| 13:52:06 | c0utta | no, just a timeout |
| 13:52:10 | c0utta | ping of .01 though |
| 13:52:16 | kurzhaarrocker | :) |
| 13:52:25 | c0utta | try again pls |
| 13:53:04 | kurzhaarrocker | 2nd try on the run. |
| 13:53:18 | kurzhaarrocker | I could mail it, if I knew your adress.. |
| 13:53:31 | c0utta | don't worry - i'll work it out |
| 13:53:49 | c0utta | i used /0 in between delimiters |
| 13:53:57 | c0utta | 512;1;\0;75 |
| 13:54:01 | c0utta | bang!! |
| 13:54:17 | kurzhaarrocker | ok |
| 13:56:23 | kurzhaarrocker | Depending on what you want to do \0 might not the best choice though. |
| 13:57:27 | kurzhaarrocker | The end of strings is indicated by \0 -> eg. strlen("512;1;\0;75") should return 5 |
| 13:57:48 | c0utta | no, it caused an error in XP |
| 13:57:57 | c0utta | just a test to see what would happen |
| 13:58:31 | c0utta | strtok considers the string s1 to consist of a sequence ofzero ormore |
| 13:58:36 | c0utta | text tokens separated by spans of one or more characters from the |
| 13:58:41 | c0utta | separator string s2 |
| 13:58:48 | c0utta | "one or more" is my issue |
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| 14:00:29 | kurzhaarrocker | That's how the behaviour is defined (posix)-> its not a bug. I don't remember wether there is an similiar function that suits your needs better. |
| 14:01:49 | c0utta | i'll use a space to indicate no entry |
| 14:01:55 | c0utta | 512;1; ;75 |
| 14:02:12 | c0utta | works |
| 14:03:45 | c0utta | i nearly have my f2 patch working |
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| 14:04:13 | kurzhaarrocker | :) I need that to have quick access for recording |
| 14:04:29 | c0utta | you'll be able to add it to f2 dynamically |
| 14:04:52 | * | kurzhaarrocker jumps up and down in joy |
| 14:05:50 | c0utta | where has recording gone in the current menu system ? |
| 14:05:53 | c0utta | i can't find it ? |
| 14:06:34 | kurzhaarrocker | There's /Recording/start recording (menu structure) |
| 14:07:07 | kurzhaarrocker | Can you handle increase / decrease of values (eg. bass) in F2 too? |
| 14:07:47 | c0utta | aha i'm using the sim |
| 14:07:52 | c0utta | no recording available |
| 14:07:52 | kurzhaarrocker | :) |
| 14:08:26 | c0utta | regarding bass - what do you want to see ? |
| 14:09:19 | c0utta | you'll be able to add the "Bass" menu to F2 dynamcially |
| 14:09:43 | kurzhaarrocker | I just imagine some user wants to have quick access to sound (or other) options. He might want to assign F2+left to increase bass and F2+right to decrease bass. |
| 14:10:12 | dwihno | c0utta: tell me what you're up to. |
| 14:10:33 | c0utta | "up to" as in the current status ? |
| 14:10:36 | c0utta | or in general ? |
| 14:11:11 | c0utta | sorry to confuse dwihno |
| 14:11:18 | c0utta | dwihno: i'm doing a patch for f2 |
| 14:11:22 | dwihno | Well, what are your plans, and how far have you gotten? |
| 14:11:49 | c0utta | firstly, i've managed to keep the quickscreens |
| 14:12:03 | c0utta | f2-left, f2-right, f2-down have not changed |
| 14:12:16 | kurzhaarrocker | c0utta I don't understand about the current status / general thing |
| 14:12:46 | c0utta | kurzhaarrocker: i know. i assume everyone's an aussie |
| 14:13:08 | kurzhaarrocker | c0utta: Are these f2-<other key> combos not assignable as well? |
| 14:13:42 | c0utta | according to the docs, some keys are treated the same |
| 14:13:52 | c0utta | the max we can have is 3 |
| 14:14:07 | kurzhaarrocker | yes, eg f2 + up can't be detected. |
| 14:14:29 | c0utta | anyway, when you press f2 and release you are presented with the F2 menu |
| 14:14:43 | kurzhaarrocker | just as it is now? |
| 14:14:59 | kurzhaarrocker | oh, the new user menu I guess? |
| 14:15:09 | c0utta | kurzhaarrocker: yes |
| 14:15:20 | c0utta | the f2 menu is read from a file |
| 14:15:24 | kurzhaarrocker | ok |
| 14:15:31 | c0utta | the one i was parsing with strtok_r |
| 14:15:38 | kurzhaarrocker | :) |
| 14:16:12 | kurzhaarrocker | Can I assign a user definable action to (e.g) f2+down? |
| 14:16:19 | c0utta | so f2 is now dynamic based on the file contents |
| 14:16:33 | c0utta | kurzhaarrocker: not yet |
| 14:16:52 | c0utta | but i'm working on it too. i'd like user definable quick-screens too |
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| 14:17:23 | kurzhaarrocker | imoh these user definable quickscreens are even more important than another menu. |
| 14:17:48 | c0utta | i agree. bagder and linus don't want quickscreens tho |
| 14:18:30 | kurzhaarrocker | Neither of them record a lot :) |
| 14:19:18 | c0utta | but since i have been able to use quickscreens and still get an f2 menu i'm sure i'll convince them |
| 14:19:35 | kurzhaarrocker | I'll support you! |
| 14:19:57 | c0utta | at the moment, the entries in F2 are menus based upon F1 |
| 14:20:33 | c0utta | i currently have shuffle, backlight & volume in my F2 menu |
| 14:20:56 | c0utta | when you select them, they work the same as the shuffle, backlight & volume menus in F1 |
| 14:21:07 | c0utta | actually use the same code |
| 14:22:11 | kurzhaarrocker | Have you thought about extending these functionalities so that they can trigger other things too? Just think about the idea of increasing / decreasing sound setting values with button combos, too. |
| 14:22:41 | c0utta | i sure have |
| 14:23:02 | c0utta | my test of "512;1;;75" was an example |
| 14:23:07 | kurzhaarrocker | ok |
| 14:23:32 | c0utta | this uses key 512 (f2), mapped to action 1 (volume), adjust to 75% |
| 14:24:27 | c0utta | you could also have "512;1;;" |
| 14:24:39 | c0utta | this would bring up the volume menu |
| 14:25:05 | kurzhaarrocker | Does that blank trigger the volume menu? |
| 14:25:11 | c0utta | yes |
| 14:25:45 | c0utta | i just added the recording menu to my f2 menu by editing the file |
| 14:25:56 | c0utta | are you jealous ? |
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| 14:26:22 | kurzhaarrocker | not really, I patched my firmware to use F3+ down to start recording immediately :) |
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| 14:26:30 | kurzhaarrocker | Hi Linus! |
| 14:27:58 | LinusN | c0utta: i'm not against quick access, i'm against the quick-screens as they are today |
| 14:28:14 | kurzhaarrocker | yippieh! |
| 14:29:26 | c0utta | LinusN: when you hold down F2 with my patch you still see the quickscreen |
| 14:29:35 | c0utta | release F2 and the F2 menu displays |
| 14:29:59 | c0utta | but if you press left/right/down it does the quickscreen action |
| 14:30:33 | kurzhaarrocker | Or is the trouble about the string lengths in the quick screen? |
| 14:30:52 | c0utta | kurzhaarrocker: yes, that's very limiting |
| 14:31:44 | c0utta | late here guys. gotta go to bed |
| 14:31:53 | kurzhaarrocker | sleep tight |
| 14:32:02 | c0utta | hey linus, don't foget my patch :) |
| 14:32:02 | c0utta | foget=forget |
| 14:32:42 | LinusN | the problem with quick-screens are 1) that they are limited to only a few options and 2) the layout is a nightmare for translations |
| 14:33:09 | LinusN | and 3) they are hard-coded |
| 14:33:22 | c0utta | true |
| 14:33:40 | c0utta | but, if we allow them to be user configurable 2 |
| 14:33:47 | c0utta | 2) will become a real problem |
| 14:33:53 | kurzhaarrocker | re 1) better than no options |
| 14:33:53 | kurzhaarrocker | re 2) so what |
| 14:33:53 | kurzhaarrocker | re 3) let c0outta change that |
| 14:34:05 | c0utta | lol |
| 14:34:36 | c0utta | cheers guys |
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| 14:36:32 | kurzhaarrocker | Linus: Do I understand that right that recorded data that is written do file starts at mp3buf_read ? |
| 14:37:26 | LinusN | yes and no |
| 14:37:49 | LinusN | the recorded data starts after the xing tag |
| 14:38:18 | dwihno | LinusN: Is the Xing tag complex? |
| 14:38:35 | kurzhaarrocker | ok, but that tag is added after the recording position is calculated. |
| 14:39:01 | LinusN | dwihno: not really, what do you mean? |
| 14:39:27 | LinusN | kurzhaarrocker: yes, but the space is reserved in the file by advancing mp3buf_read |
| 14:39:27 | dwihno | LinusN: Across several frames or such. |
| 14:39:34 | dwihno | LinusN: Or is it just a special kind of frame? |
| 14:39:36 | LinusN | dwihno: no, it is a single mp3 frame |
| 14:39:49 | dwihno | ah |
| 14:40:10 | * | dwihno longs for christmas... |
| 14:40:22 | LinusN | kurzhaarrocker: what do you really want to know? |
| 14:40:24 | dwihno | The only time of year when coding is possible |
| 14:40:42 | kurzhaarrocker | LinusN may I dcc you a short patch on mpeg.c that shows you my prinicipial attempt to calculate the recording position? It doesn't work and I don't understand why. It should be understandable without applying it, reading is sufficiant. |
| 14:41:32 | LinusN | sure |
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| 15:18:52 | kurzhaarrocker | midknight2k3: see? I've cut my hair and now you've got your 'mid' for your self again! |
| 15:19:00 | midknight2k3 | hi |
| 15:19:02 | midknight2k3 | hey! yay |
| 15:19:05 | midknight2k3 | hey linus |
| 15:19:18 | LinusN | midknight2k3: shame on you, you forced him to cut his hair! |
| 15:19:23 | midknight2k3 | aww |
| 15:19:26 | midknight2k3 | sorry |
| 15:20:03 | kurzhaarrocker | I'm not the same person anymore since that! |
| 15:20:18 | midknight2k3 | grow it back! i'm sorry! |
| 15:21:24 | kurzhaarrocker | That means I'll need _lots_ of guano... |
| 15:21:52 | midknight2k3 | http://google.com/search?q=guano+for+sale |
| 15:22:58 | kurzhaarrocker | Bat guano? I thought that guano was produced by sea birds only. |
| 15:23:20 | midknight2k3 | bats most definitely |
| 15:23:42 | midknight2k3 | LinusN: I've done yet another radio patch :D |
| 15:24:32 | midknight2k3 | it's not yet complete but i plan on finishing it ... today I guess you'd call it. but that of course means i'll end up working on my etch a sketch plugin and get nowhere, and push release dates back a few days :-\ |
| 15:25:11 | LinusN | midknight2k3: what's the patch about? |
| 15:25:56 | midknight2k3 | I moved a couple things, changed a couple langs, added a "Browse Stored Presets" in FM menu and <am in the process of> adding a ticker bar to show where you are |
| 15:26:38 | LinusN | like an analog dial? |
| 15:27:02 | midknight2k3 | like if i were at 104.7 |
| 15:27:04 | midknight2k3 | : |
| 15:27:04 | midknight2k3 | | |
| 15:27:05 | midknight2k3 | |−−−−−−−−−−−−−−-| |
| 15:27:05 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midknight2k3 |
| 15:27:05 | midknight2k3 | 87 94 102 107 |
| 15:27:11 | LinusN | would be cool to use my 7-seg display for the frequency :-) |
| 15:28:50 | midknight2k3 | lol |
| 15:28:56 | midknight2k3 | where would the peak meter go? |
| 15:29:00 | midknight2k3 | i fixed a nasty bug too |
| 15:29:05 | LinusN | oh? |
| 15:29:11 | kurzhaarrocker | In peak meter? |
| 15:29:23 | midknight2k3 | yeah |
| 15:29:39 | midknight2k3 | "Prerecording 00" is hiding behind the meter if the prerecording is off |
| 15:29:55 | midknight2k3 | every button press will make it appear and disappear about a fifth of a second |
| 15:30:10 | midknight2k3 | i moved the peak meter and cleared the rect if we aren't prerecording |
| 15:30:15 | midknight2k3 | i just don't display it at all. |
| 15:30:20 | midknight2k3 | unless we are prerecording |
| 15:30:48 | kurzhaarrocker | That concerns the fm machine only? |
| 15:30:55 | midknight2k3 | yes |
| 15:31:33 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 15:31:33 | * | kurzhaarrocker is relieved |
| 15:32:31 | midknight2k3 | it's not that bad |
| 15:32:31 | midknight2k3 | just ugly |
| 15:33:27 | * | midknight2k3 knows linusn is off to try it |
| 15:34:09 | midknight2k3 | linus, would you like to see my work in progress? |
| 15:34:43 | midknight2k3 | too bad for dcc. i can just email it |
| 15:34:46 | midknight2k3 | crap |
| 15:34:47 | midknight2k3 | i cant' |
| 15:34:49 | midknight2k3 | gotta go |
| 15:34:54 | midknight2k3 | bye all |
| 15:34:56 | midknight2k3 | well i can |
| 15:38:23 | midknight2k3 | i sent it and the lang goes in apps/langs, radio.c in apps/recorder |
| 15:38:41 | midknight2k3 | you may wish to fix the ticker before i do |
| 15:38:49 | midknight2k3 | if you desire, email me please :) |
| 15:38:49 | midknight2k3 | bye |
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| 18:51:14 | gz | my first rockbox-compile - and it works :) |
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| 19:54:09 | gz | i should find a new menue "create directory" right below "info" in the main menue, shouldn't i? Well i dont |
| 19:55:30 | Zagor | that was committed today, and is therefore only available in the bleeding edge build |
| 19:57:11 | elinenbe | Zagor: where is the "delete directory" option... I say you get working on rmdir() <grin> |
| 19:57:24 | Zagor | hehe |
| 19:57:49 | Zagor | actually rmdir doesn't exist. removing a dir is no different from removing a file. |
| 19:57:59 | Zagor | (except checking that it's empty first) |
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| 20:00:12 | elinenbe | Zagor: well rm -rf dir |
| 20:00:27 | elinenbe | Zagor: how hard would it be to implement that in rockbox? |
| 20:00:35 | gz | Zagor, ok i thought it's in the daily build already |
| 20:01:19 | Zagor | elinenbe: not hard at all |
| 20:01:57 | elinenbe | Zagor: how much would you be willing to do it for $$$ ? |
| 20:02:12 | Zagor | haha |
| 20:02:16 | elinenbe | Zagor: I have a crisp $1 bill with your name on it... |
| 20:02:23 | Zagor | need it that bad? |
| 20:02:45 | elinenbe | Zagor: yeah... |
| 20:03:04 | elinenbe | has anyone check out musicbrainz.org |
| 20:03:46 | elinenbe | I think it would be wild to create a database with that program that will load your songs onto the rockbox, and then you can browse by ID3 database... maybe I will try something like that. |
| 20:04:02 | Zagor | yeah, sounds like a good idea |
| 20:04:03 | elinenbe | http://www.archos.com/products/overview/gmini_220.html : browse by file or ID3 |
| 20:04:17 | elinenbe | that actually looks pretty good! |
| 20:04:28 | Zagor | in fact, one idea is to put the whole freedb database on disk and use that |
| 20:05:09 | elinenbe | that's an idea! |
| 20:06:04 | Zagor | i think one of the car mp3 players do that |
| 20:06:20 | Zagor | so archos has gone the 1.8" disk route too, finally |
| 20:06:56 | elinenbe | Zagor: if you look at the webpage I just sent, and you check out the ARCLibrary portion... it seems like you could get the EXACT same result with a program that just creates playlists and folders based on ID3 tags... then you just change the default folder icons for that "folder" to an "artsists","albums",etc. icons. |
| 20:07:34 | elinenbe | Zagor: I think it is the sony car player with a CD player and hard drive in it... that way you do not have to type in all the names on a car player! |
| 20:07:43 | Zagor | yeah. someone made such a script already. |
| 20:07:47 | elinenbe | Zagor: however, I think it rips the music to ATRAC |
| 20:07:58 | elinenbe | I'll have to look for that... |
| 20:08:11 | Zagor | no, the one i'm thinking about wasn't a sony. never mind though. |
| 20:08:47 | elinenbe | possibly pioneer then? however, they probably uses the gracenote CDDB database and paid for it instead of the FREE freedb! |
| 20:09:33 | elinenbe | it angers me that I donated time and energy to the gracenote cddb (before it was gracenote and owned by Roxio) and then you had to pay for it... they are charging for other peoples work. |
| 20:09:46 | Zagor | yeah |
| 20:11:15 | Zagor | there's a nice screen on that new gmini |
| 20:13:29 | elinenbe | yeah there is... I would go out a buy a new player in a second if any of them still supported standard rechargable batteries though. |
| 20:14:10 | elinenbe | the digital camera industry has that known... about 50% of the point and shoot cameras are AA rechargables and another 50% are proprietary |
| 20:18:37 | Zagor | yeah. i'm fearing the music player business will dump AAs completely. how many minidisc players use AAs, for instance? |
| 20:24:21 | elinenbe | this is nice: http://www.nextway.co.kr/products/new_150d.asp |
| 20:24:39 | elinenbe | except what is the deal with these 1.5 gb players? |
| 20:24:52 | Zagor | exactly. way too small |
| 20:25:31 | Zagor | they exist because someone (hitachi?) recently released a new kind of very-small harddrive with sizes up to 4gig. |
| 20:26:38 | elinenbe | I know... but with a 20 and 40gb hard drive so small already (ipod) is there really any need to go way smaller. |
| 20:27:03 | elinenbe | I would love a device with an ipod size drive but larger screen and AA batteries (with rockbox of course) :D |
| 20:29:22 | Zagor | personally i've outgrown the 1.8" disks :-( i need >40gig to carry my collection. and i don't see me going back to "selective carrying" either. |
| 20:29:54 | elinenbe | actually I would like a archos with 2x2.5" disks... |
| 20:30:08 | elinenbe | packed tightly against each other with 4 AA's |
| 20:30:10 | Zagor | hehe, it'd be rather heavy though |
| 20:30:40 | Zagor | now 2 x 1.8", *that'd* be a killer (at least to your wallet ;) |
| 20:31:30 | elinenbe | thad be nice... what about the disk in the Rio Karma −− what size is that? |
| 20:32:21 | Zagor | i don't know. iirc it's too small for the standard 1.8" disks, but i'm probably wrong. |
| 20:32:25 | elinenbe | 20gb in this: http://www.riovolution.com/images/devices/gallery/karmagut-07.jpg |
| 20:32:30 | elinenbe | it is not the standard 1.8" |
| 20:32:51 | elinenbe | of course a 2.5" 80gigger has more capacity in smaller space |
| 20:32:55 | Zagor | definitely not. nice oen |
| 20:32:57 | Zagor | one |
| 20:33:14 | Zagor | hitachi makes all kinds of form factors these days! |
| 20:33:16 | elinenbe | http://www.riovolution.com/images/devices/gallery/nitruscompare.jpg |
| 20:33:37 | elinenbe | the gallery is here: http://www.riovolution.com/gallery.php |
| 20:34:52 | Zagor | damn fuzzy images :( |
| 20:35:06 | Zagor | but i see they are using the portalplayer chip |
| 20:35:39 | gz | hmm.... |
| 20:36:16 | gz | what about getting the MAS 3509 or 3529, extracting the firmware-rom and reuse it for our mas? Seems like it's the same core using the same features |
| 20:36:31 | gz | now thats probably the reason why they don't want those infos to be spread |
| 20:37:02 | Zagor | gz: i would guess the rom on those is much larger than the ram on our chips |
| 20:37:17 | elinenbe | Zagor: what ever happened with the info BlueChip got? |
| 20:37:51 | gz | Zagor: might be. but as long as the AAC codec is below 4k-words we could separate & use it stand-alone |
| 20:38:05 | Zagor | it doesn't matter, we have plenty of info from that hungarian site now |
| 20:38:21 | Zagor | gz: go ahead :) |
| 20:38:23 | gz | at least the 35x9f ram-size still is 4kWords |
| 20:38:44 | gz | well i'm pretty impressed. an in-sillicon scheduler and tons of other special features... phew! |
| 20:39:16 | gz | sad i couldnt find the mas c-compiler, but at least the simulator does assembling |
| 20:39:17 | elinenbe | Zagor: what is the hungarian site? |
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| 20:39:48 | elinenbe | Zagor: also, what was someone on the mailing list talking about when they mentioned a "Icon Driven Interface"? |
| 20:39:49 | gz | btw you maybe shouldn't ALL leech from that site. in case the notify the traffic it might have not-nice effects |
| 20:40:15 | Zagor | gz: we've got it mirrored now |
| 20:40:38 | Zagor | elinenbe: a hungarian (i think) dsp class, using the MAS as material. |
| 20:40:45 | Zagor | http://krt.neobee.net/PNRS/DSPkurs/DSP_kurs.html |
| 20:41:08 | elinenbe | ah nice.. do you think anything will come out of it? |
| 20:41:09 | gz | and the mas got a full-featured DMA interface. maybe it could even trigger the ata-chip itself? HAven't read it throughly, tho, probably isn't possible. but at last the polling wouldn't be needed anymore |
| 20:41:43 | Zagor | elinenbe: yeah, it's got enough info to write mas code. afaik bluechip is looking at it. |
| 20:41:45 | gz | it's locoated in novodi sad |
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| 20:41:52 | gz | er novi sad |
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| 20:42:36 | gz | it's in .yu |
| 20:42:47 | elinenbe | does anyone know about and "Icon Driven Interface"? |
| 20:43:05 | gz | elinenbe, no |
| 20:43:16 | track | I think the LCD on the archos is a bit small for an icon interface anyway |
| 20:43:28 | Zagor | gz: ok |
| 20:43:35 | gz | it's in serbia actually |
| 20:43:46 | gz | looks like those guys did the c-compiler for the mas |
| 20:43:47 | Zagor | elinenbe: dwihno did a test a while back |
| 20:44:02 | gz | and some other research: http://csdl.computer.org/comp/proceedings/euromicro/2000/0780/02/07802224abs.htm |
| 20:44:18 | Zagor | dwihno.ajbrec.ajz">http://rockbox.haxx.se/test/dwihno.ajbrec.ajz (regular recorder) |
| 20:44:51 | Zagor | gz: password protected :) |
| 20:45:07 | elinenbe | I'll check it out.. |
| 20:45:19 | gz | sure that's quite usual - sadly. but at least you can read what it's about. and it doesn't really matter for our task, does it? |
| 20:45:28 | gz | we have to code asm anyhow |
| 20:45:48 | track | Elinenbe I saw your comment referring to the atadore font |
| 20:45:55 | elinenbe | yeah? |
| 20:46:08 | elinenbe | I agree with Zagor though... we need a fixed font for the system font. |
| 20:46:10 | track | well, I agree with you. its easier to read than the sys font |
| 20:46:28 | Zagor | then load the atadore font |
| 20:46:30 | track | I can't see how much bigger it is than the sysfont, its just a bold version of it |
| 20:46:34 | gz | but having read the overview.pdf i'm quite optimistic the mas does have some good power reservers |
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| 20:47:50 | track | Hi Guest |
| 20:47:57 | elinenbe | Zagor: I quite like the icon interface... it could be nicer done though... |
| 20:48:13 | Zagor | yeah, that was just a mock-up |
| 20:48:34 | elinenbe | it could be nice like a nokia though... |
| 20:48:36 | Zagor | we need a graphics artist :) |
| 20:48:46 | elinenbe | Zagor: and it would be nice in grayscale :D |
| 20:48:50 | Zagor | hehe |
| 20:49:06 | track | Would a greyscale icon interface be possible? |
| 20:49:13 | Zagor | yes |
| 20:49:40 | track | it must put some strain on the LCD, constantly flashing the pixels to achieve greyscale |
| 20:49:52 | elinenbe | an LCD is DESIGNED FOR THAT! |
| 20:49:53 | Zagor | someone could try playing with antialiased fonts for starters |
| 20:49:53 | elinenbe | ug! |
| 20:50:03 | elinenbe | Zagor: now, that would be a nice feature... |
| 20:50:09 | track | i think the screen resolution is too low Zagor |
| 20:50:12 | track | for antialiasing |
| 20:50:16 | Zagor | nope |
| 20:50:26 | track | 112x64 pixels? |
| 20:50:47 | Zagor | antialiasing has nothing to do with screen size |
| 20:50:51 | track | oh ox |
| 20:50:53 | track | ok |
| 20:51:07 | track | I know antialiasing is smoothing out the jaggies on fonts and the like |
| 20:51:52 | Zagor | yes |
| 20:52:08 | track | I just wondered how it would be achieveable on the archos |
| 20:52:12 | track | since you say its possible |
| 20:52:45 | gz | oops the simulator doesnt assemble. sadly. good for debugging but it doesnt feature a binary output |
| 20:53:07 | track | I read in the paper today MPs are taking Apple on about the iPod |
| 20:53:18 | Zagor | gz: we need to write an assembler anyway |
| 20:54:06 | gz | Zagor yep, i know. shit, i'd love to start right away playing with it. but i don't have the time at the moment anyhow |
| 20:54:34 | Zagor | so much code, so little time :) |
| 20:54:38 | track | lol |
| 20:54:45 | track | u have the knowledge Zagor |
| 20:54:50 | track | :) |
| 20:55:17 | gz | yeah. never coded a dsp before. i really am impressed of the mas! I just had a short look on some other generic one, but this one is way more powerfull |
| 20:55:37 | track | Gz are you saying DSPs effects are possible on the MAS? |
| 20:55:49 | gz | track, the mas is a DSP |
| 20:56:05 | track | i mean effects like hall, stadium and the like |
| 20:56:16 | gz | dsp=digital signal processor. You can do really many things with it |
| 20:56:21 | track | sorry I mis-understood what you said |
| 20:56:24 | gz | if you are able to programm it properly |
| 20:56:35 | track | I always thought the mas was a hard-coded chip |
| 20:56:39 | gz | and if it got enough memory/power etc. |
| 20:56:43 | track | not some sort of flash eeprom chip |
| 20:57:00 | gz | track, mostly. the mpeg-code is in rom but there is a download-code-to-ram feature |
| 20:57:07 | track | oh right |
| 20:57:24 | gz | but still not an easy task to do cool stuff with it |
| 20:57:30 | track | yea |
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| 20:57:42 | track | my archos is well old |
| 20:57:54 | track | its chassis had a dent in it plus a few scratches |
| 20:58:40 | * | gz away |
| 20:58:43 | track | Just put a brand new set of 2100mAh batteries in it but Im not getting much improved playback time |
| 20:59:03 | track | and thats with backlight off, disk spindown 3 seconds, and disk poweroff on |
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| 21:00:12 | track | What does disk-poweroff actually do when activated? |
| 21:01:18 | track | The revamped menu structure is much better now Zagor |
| 21:01:20 | track | less cluttered |
| 21:06:25 | Zagor | disk poweroff physically cuts power to the disk after spindown. |
| 21:06:41 | Zagor | it draws less power then, but in return it takes a bit longer to spin up |
| 21:07:07 | track | ahh ok |
| 21:07:14 | track | thanks dude |
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| 21:07:36 | track | ;-) |
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| 21:13:30 | track | How accurate would you say the battery meter is in the daily builds? |
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| 21:16:13 | Zagor | hard to say |
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| 21:17:34 | track | well its reference to the 2100maH batteries I installed |
| 21:17:57 | track | I charged them up to 100% as shown on the battery meter but they wern't much better than the old 1800mAh cells |
| 21:18:41 | track | they went down to 20% after 7 hours use |
| 21:19:32 | track | Does anyone know a good font designer program that can make the .fnt files? |
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| 21:32:15 | track | Has anyone seen the iPod Mini? |
| 21:33:16 | Zagor | sure |
| 21:33:35 | track | Seriously Zagor, it only has a 4 gigger drive, but it comes in a choice of colours |
| 21:33:42 | Zagor | i know |
| 21:33:55 | track | but it still has the battery stigma attached though |
| 21:34:46 | track | Im wondering what other makes of Jukebox store their firmware on the HD rather than in a flash chip |
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| 21:41:43 | track | yea zagor he said his lcd went funny after playing long video clips |
| 21:42:26 | track | perhaps it was just a co-incident |
| 21:42:33 | Zagor | probably it simply got warm from the harddisk spinning constantly |
| 21:42:46 | track | yea |
| 21:42:55 | Zagor | when the display gets warm, it becomes faster and then looks different |
| 21:42:59 | track | yea i know |
| 21:43:01 | track | mine does that |
| 21:43:08 | track | when it cools it gets back to normal |
| 21:43:34 | track | is there a possibility of an icon GUI? |
| 21:44:03 | Zagor | we covered this 10 minutes ago |
| 21:44:14 | track | yea i know, but wondered if it was still feasible |
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| 21:44:23 | track | just looking at the archos's small LCD |
| 21:44:30 | track | the icons would have to be pretty small |
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| 21:49:14 | track | Hi scott666 |
| 21:49:44 | scott666 | hey |
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| 21:50:54 | track | :) |
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| 21:57:17 | prelude | hey |
| 21:57:23 | track | hey prelude |
| 21:57:40 | prelude | anyone know how much the sound quality differs from a archos fm recorder 20 to say an apple ipod? |
| 21:58:21 | track | well I have heard the ipod sound doesn't have as much bass or fullness |
| 21:58:54 | track | even my old Creative Labs Nomad sounded tinny compared to the archos |
| 21:59:02 | prelude | tinny? |
| 21:59:48 | track | well the Nomad didn't go as loud, plus the sound was a lot thinner compared to the Archos's |
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| 22:00:06 | prelude | oh |
| 22:00:13 | prelude | cool |
| 22:00:16 | track | The Ipods also scratch easily |
| 22:00:28 | prelude | well the archos break easily dont they? |
| 22:00:58 | track | mine has never broken |
| 22:01:06 | track | and that is from 3 years of solid use eveyday |
| 22:01:09 | track | everyday |
| 22:01:11 | prelude | nice |
| 22:01:14 | prelude | you got a 20 gig one? |
| 22:01:42 | track | no, the older 10 gigger |
| 22:01:48 | track | with the irritating USB1.1 port |
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| 22:02:46 | track | takes forever to download 4gb worth of music to it in one go |
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| 22:08:24 | scott666 | if you get one get a v1 recorder |
| 22:08:44 | track | I have a V1 recorder |
| 22:08:48 | track | its a recorder 10 |
| 22:09:22 | scott666 | i have an FMR, which needs a visit from dr. soldering iron |
| 22:09:32 | track | those FMRs were never on sale for long |
| 22:09:41 | track | What is the FM reception like? |
| 22:09:52 | scott666 | terrible |
| 22:10:01 | scott666 | at least when i tried to use it |
| 22:10:03 | track | oh |
| 22:10:06 | scott666 | i dont listen to the radio much anyway |
| 22:10:09 | track | perhaps u was in a crappy signal ara |
| 22:10:10 | track | area |
| 22:11:31 | track | What is the difference between the FMR and the V2 apart from no radio? |
| 22:11:55 | scott666 | none |
| 22:12:06 | scott666 | except for the text on the body |
| 22:12:09 | track | oh ok |
| 22:12:25 | track | alright what is the difference between the recorder 20 and the V2 |
| 22:12:43 | scott666 | the batteries and the case |
| 22:12:46 | track | ah |
| 22:12:57 | scott666 | also digital I/O is someohow crippled on the FMR |
| 22:13:01 | track | yea |
| 22:13:06 | scott666 | theres no i...or o |
| 22:13:09 | scott666 | something |
| 22:13:18 | track | Who knows the SCMS hack on the normal Recorders? |
| 22:14:24 | Zagor | you don't need it with rockbox |
| 22:14:47 | track | so with Rockbox you can use the digital I/O without SCMS restrictions? |
| 22:15:00 | Zagor | yes |
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| 22:15:04 | track | cool |
| 22:15:14 | track | Perhaps thats why Archos don't use Rockbox, because it lacks SCMS |
| 22:15:21 | track | they don't want to be sued by the RIAA or the like |
| 22:15:37 | Zagor | not likely |
| 22:16:04 | track | well thats my theory anyway. But Even Archos know how much better rockbox is than the archos f/w Zagor. |
| 22:16:21 | scott666 | #rockbox |
| 22:16:50 | track | Whatever happened to Joquams' interface? |
| 22:16:51 | track | lol |
| 22:17:26 | track | the only good bit was it was the first to have an inverted video line |
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| 22:20:47 | track | oops accidently got disconnected |
| 22:21:08 | track | Prelude u still there? |
| 22:21:12 | prelude | what up |
| 22:21:23 | track | did u get ur usb issue sorted? |
| 22:21:33 | prelude | nope the hard drive is dead for sure |
| 22:21:55 | track | sorry 2 hear that |
| 22:22:09 | track | cant' understand how the hd would suddenly conk out |
| 22:22:20 | prelude | well it wasnt brand new |
| 22:22:31 | track | How old was it then? |
| 22:22:36 | prelude | i didnt lose any money though |
| 22:22:37 | prelude | not sure |
| 22:22:44 | prelude | the credit card company did a charge back |
| 22:22:50 | track | lol thats good then |
| 22:22:59 | track | its not the money its also the inconvience |
| 22:24:59 | track | so what device are u using now? |
| 22:25:08 | prelude | none |
| 22:25:40 | track | well i may change my player in the future |
| 22:25:46 | track | i'd consider selling u mine |
| 22:26:05 | track | but I don't want to miss out on rockbox |
| 22:26:12 | track | so im in a bit of a catch-22 |
| 22:26:21 | prelude | nah no offense but i dont want an older one |
| 22:26:27 | track | no probs |
| 22:26:46 | track | If u have an email address I'll take a shot of it and send u a pic of it |
| 22:26:51 | prelude | if i cant get a cheap replacement for this one ill just trash it and get an iRiver probably |
| 22:26:56 | prelude | hawk@phused.net |
| 22:27:09 | track | ok thanks |
| 22:27:13 | track | let me find my digicam |
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| 22:27:22 | track | Hi Topbloke |
| 22:27:33 | top_bloke | hi |
| 22:27:48 | top_bloke | you unbanned? |
| 22:27:58 | track | lets not go there |
| 22:28:03 | top_bloke | lol ok |
| 22:28:04 | track | im on my very best behaviour now |
| 22:28:08 | top_bloke | wow |
| 22:28:14 | prelude | so rockbox only works on archos right? |
| 22:28:19 | track | For the time being yes |
| 22:28:22 | top_bloke | no neo |
| 22:28:30 | top_bloke | or does it |
| 22:28:30 | prelude | whats so great about rockbox? |
| 22:28:34 | track | It depends what else Zagor has in mind, after all rockbox is his project |
| 22:28:36 | top_bloke | it owns. |
| 22:30:13 | track | prelude im taking a shot of the archos now |
| 22:30:20 | prelude | k |
| 22:30:30 | top_bloke | oh yea i got a digital camera |
| 22:30:46 | track | Ive got a pic but its slightly blurred prelude |
| 22:30:49 | top_bloke | it takes 2100 AAs but i have no charger |
| 22:31:01 | top_bloke | could i charge em in the archos? |
| 22:31:05 | track | yea you could |
| 22:31:11 | top_bloke | but only 2 |
| 22:31:17 | track | no u need 4 |
| 22:31:21 | track | shouldn't mix batteries |
| 22:31:23 | top_bloke | oh |
| 22:31:25 | top_bloke | ok |
| 22:31:41 | top_bloke | theyre Ni-MH |
| 22:32:12 | top_bloke | plus i couldnt get the batts out of the archos when i tried |
| 22:32:35 | track | sending |
| 22:32:38 | track | sending |
| 22:32:58 | track | ok prelude its sent |
| 22:35:39 | track | Zagor do u plan to work on the Gmini in the future? |
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| 22:45:30 | prelude | track looks like u got a crack on the lcd |
| 22:46:23 | track | thats just a reflection |
| 22:46:26 | track | there is no crack on the LCD |
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| 22:47:44 | prelude | ah |
| 22:49:11 | track | i think that reflection was caused by the camera's flash |
| 22:50:58 | track | yea that pic was a bit rushed prelude |
| 22:51:06 | prelude | np |
| 22:51:09 | Zagor | track: i don't know about the gmini. it depends on who volunteers information and code. |
| 22:51:16 | track | oh ok. I was just curios |
| 22:51:18 | track | Curious |
| 22:51:39 | track | I think it uses a flash chip like the Multimedia and the AV3xx |
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| 22:54:34 | track | does Adiamas still work on Rockbox? |
| 22:55:03 | track | haven't seem around for ages |
| 22:55:09 | Zagor | i don't know. haven't heard from him in a while. |
| 22:55:34 | track | Well u must be in close contact with him |
| 22:56:58 | track | I like to flash my archos but im way too afraid to do it |
| 22:57:06 | top_bloke | ya me too |
| 22:57:27 | track | if it goes wrong your archos is dead since the Archos ROM firmware is flashed over |
| 22:57:49 | top_bloke | but theres the back up? |
| 22:57:52 | Zagor | afaik *nobody* has failed |
| 22:58:09 | track | Im not sure if my Recorder is flashable since its an early recorder 10 |
| 22:59:09 | top_bloke | check the menu |
| 22:59:24 | track | ok let me turn my Archos on |
| 22:59:24 | top_bloke | i think in debug |
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| 22:59:52 | track | ok im on the Menu screen |
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| 23:00:00 | top_bloke | debug |
| 23:00:02 | top_bloke | and uh |
| 23:00:18 | track | ok im in debug |
| 23:00:20 | top_bloke | HW info? |
| 23:00:27 | top_bloke | i dont know what its called really |
| 23:00:44 | top_bloke | just go to all of em :) |
| 23:00:52 | track | Oh yea Zagor apologies I see what you mean about the Atadore font and the system font |
| 23:03:24 | track | such as in the system debug menus |
| 23:03:54 | top_bloke | u know USB dont work in the debug menus |
| 23:04:12 | top_bloke | it doesnt do anything when plugged in |
| 23:04:36 | track | I think its designed to do that |
| 23:04:37 | Zagor | the debug menus have more slack than the rest of the code. after all, they're debug menus... :) |
| 23:04:51 | top_bloke | yeah it says keep out right on it |
| 23:04:54 | track | lol |
| 23:05:15 | track | Zagor I thought the USB was "hardware controlled" so even on the Debug menus the USB would take over if the cable was plugged in |
| 23:05:40 | top_bloke | nah cause rockbox has its own usb |
| 23:06:04 | Zagor | you're both wrong :) |
| 23:06:11 | track | Zagor! Im right! |
| 23:06:13 | track | :) |
| 23:06:35 | Zagor | usb is handled by hardware, but we have to make sure we don't access the disk while usb is connected. and rockbox naturally controls the display |
| 23:06:55 | top_bloke | oh |
| 23:06:57 | track | oh ok Zagor |
| 23:07:01 | track | you are the top man |
| 23:07:02 | track | ;-) |
| 23:07:28 | top_bloke | but you could ignore it if u want to right |
| 23:07:55 | track | I must admit the normal Recorders are certainly not photogenic |
| 23:08:05 | top_bloke | cause the archos didnt show up on the pc when in debug |
| 23:08:43 | track | I mean they look like breeze blocks on the Archos website, but they are much smaller in real life |
| 23:09:11 | top_bloke | archos is pretty big |
| 23:09:18 | top_bloke | compared to new mp3 players |
| 23:09:22 | track | yea |
| 23:09:24 | Zagor | top_bloke: yeah, we sort of have an usb on/off switch that we must trigger before it will work |
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| 23:09:31 | track | They claim their new Gmini 220 is smaller than a floppy |
| 23:09:33 | top_bloke | ok cool |
| 23:10:01 | top_bloke | my bro has a zen and he was shocked how heavy my archos is |
| 23:10:11 | track | yet it packs a 20 gigger drive |
| 23:10:31 | track | But at least the rubber corners make the Archos more rugged |
| 23:10:41 | top_bloke | lolol |
| 23:10:51 | top_bloke | he THREW his zen against the wall |
| 23:10:59 | track | :O! |
| 23:10:59 | track | and? |
| 23:11:06 | top_bloke | cause the headphones were dying out on 1 side |
| 23:11:12 | top_bloke | left a DENT in the wall |
| 23:11:15 | top_bloke | and it works fine |
| 23:11:19 | top_bloke | hes nuts |
| 23:11:24 | track | lol |
| 23:11:31 | top_bloke | god |
| 23:11:33 | track | u do that with an ipod it will smash into bits |
| 23:11:50 | top_bloke | i wouldnt think a zen would survive it |
| 23:12:04 | track | nah ipods are a waste of money |
| 23:12:19 | top_bloke | theyre sleek |
| 23:12:23 | top_bloke | and so is the zen |
| 23:12:46 | track | The normal Recorder is stylish in its own way |
| 23:12:56 | top_bloke | ehhhh |
| 23:13:28 | MT | if you get mugged tho, you cant fight anyone off with a zen or an ipod |
| 23:13:35 | track | i agree MT |
| 23:13:36 | MT | an archos you can do some serious damage with tho |
| 23:13:38 | track | yea |
| 23:13:38 | top_bloke | lol |
| 23:13:49 | top_bloke | but then it'd be broken :( |
| 23:14:00 | MT | the reason you cant drop an archos is it might break the flooring slabs |
| 23:14:05 | track | Ive noticed the Player never gets a mention anymore :( |
| 23:14:06 | top_bloke | lolol |
| 23:14:33 | top_bloke | yeah the archos weighs like a pound |
| 23:14:35 | track | no-one likes the poor old Player :-( |
| 23:14:49 | top_bloke | :( |
| 23:15:17 | track | They still sell it on the website though |
| 23:15:22 | track | Zagor do you like the Player? |
| 23:15:26 | top_bloke | archos website? |
| 23:15:39 | track | yea on the Archos webby |
| 23:15:58 | top_bloke | i would have thought they forgot about it |
| 23:16:13 | track | they still sell it |
| 23:16:16 | top_bloke | they dont make it anymore right |
| 23:16:26 | track | Ive noticed that Rockbox is the only website that doesn't start with www |
| 23:16:27 | MT | hmm, advancedmp3players have the xclef back in stock |
| 23:16:34 | track | i.e not www.rockbox.haxx.se |
| 23:16:37 | track | just rockbox.haxx.se |
| 23:16:41 | MT | my website doesnt start with www |
| 23:16:43 | MT | lots dont |
| 23:16:46 | top_bloke | u can put www |
| 23:16:46 | track | oh |
| 23:16:49 | top_bloke | cant u |
| 23:16:51 | track | thats new to me |
| 23:16:51 | MT | images.google.com doesnt |
| 23:17:11 | top_bloke | i thought these days www is optional |
| 23:17:24 | track | maybe it is |
| 23:17:52 | MT | its neither |
| 23:18:03 | track | oh ok |
| 23:18:16 | track | I must admit 2x11 character cells is just useless |
| 23:18:27 | MT | a webserver can listen to any ip, regardless of what domain names that ip has assigned to it |
| 23:19:42 | track | The Play button on my Recorder is rather wonky |
| 23:33:27 | track | Hi Webmind |
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