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#rockbox log for 2004-01-27

00:00:02trackno, i really thought it was a cool idea
00:00:06trackReally I did
00:00:16trackI knew about zip folders and how they compact files
00:00:57midknight2k3obviously not
00:01:04midknight2k3or youd know that mp3s are already compresed
00:03:33trackyea but MP3s are compressed using the lossy algorithm, I thought u could further compress them using the lossless algorithm to save HD space
00:04:00midknight2k3uh
00:04:02midknight2k3compressed
00:04:03midknight2k3lossy
00:04:06midknight2k3still compressed
00:04:09midknight2k3thats like zipping a zip
00:04:11trackoh
00:04:14trackfair enough
00:04:17midknight2k3and why lossless on lossy?
00:04:24midknight2k3thats like losing nothing of something
00:04:31midknight2k3you already lost soem of it
00:04:34trackif u make an MP3 from a wav file u are removing data to make the file smaller
00:04:38midknight2k3you cant get it back via lossless
00:04:39midknight2k3YES
00:04:44midknight2k3and you get that back by zipping it?
00:04:45midknight2k3NO
00:04:50trackim sorry mid
00:04:50track:)
00:08:26tracku there mid?
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03:23:33diddystar5hardeep: there?
03:25:08hardeephai diddystar5-san!
03:26:23diddystar5?
03:26:25diddystar5ok
03:26:29diddystar5lol
03:26:38diddystar5want to see my new vu meter?
03:27:44hardeepi don't have usb access right now... you should have the changes committed
03:27:57diddystar5i will soon
03:28:30diddystar5midknight is working on a cooler scale switcher, and im working on a few more feature and a new panle
03:28:56diddystar5(but its 500times better than the first one
03:29:47diddystar5but you could submit changes for me while i work if you would
03:35:12diddystar5i was thinking about using this panle i found: http://sound.westhost.com/p55-f3.jpg
03:35:39diddystar5just scale it to work with my vu meter and make it mono
03:38:40hardeepthat looks pretty cool
03:40:10diddystar5can you get it into bmp for me?
03:40:30diddystar5i dont have a photo editor right now since my windows crashed and i lost everything
03:41:34diddystar5n/m got it
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06:07:57Terra[]bbsHEY MIDK!
06:08:05Terra[]bbsi used to go here
06:08:15midknight2k3lol
06:08:15Terra[]bbsi'll bbs
06:08:18midknight2k3k
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06:24:08stevenmHey guys
06:24:18midknight2k3hi
06:24:19stevenmanyone know how to slow video playback rate back to 70FPS ?
06:24:28midknight2k3why?
06:24:30midknight2k3too fast?
06:24:31stevenmor like.. what's going on with the video?
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06:24:38stevenmThe grayscale looks off
06:24:39midknight2k3i was JUST downloading the new one
06:24:44midknight2k3stevenm: it's just smoother
06:24:47midknight2k3i'll try it and see
06:24:51stevenmno, it looks very strange
06:24:55midknight2k3just downloaded it :)
06:25:16stevenma lot more jittery and the detail and grayscale are worse
06:26:12midknight2k3ok trying
06:27:21midknight2k3hmm
06:27:21midknight2k3oww
06:27:59midknight2k3too fast too
06:28:20midknight2k3hmm
06:28:38midknight2k3well we'll have to let him know
06:30:32stevenmThe CVS said it was to make room for audio overheard...
06:30:57midknight2k3yeah
06:31:00stevenmI guess a timing routine is in order.. different HDs aread at different speeds..
06:31:14midknight2k3it's probably the fact that audio will take more
06:31:22stevenmmine is upgraded, so it's not going to read at the same rate as the stock HD
06:31:30midknight2k3so by making this go faster and having audio slow it down it will equalize
06:31:35midknight2k3it's not required to
06:31:42stevenmI just hope it's uniform
06:31:43midknight2k3it reads when it wants, not by a set time
06:33:39stevenmno I meant like, one hard drive may not be as fast at seeking as another
06:34:08midknight2k3oh
06:34:14midknight2k3well mine's unmodified
06:34:18midknight2k3and it still sucks
06:36:08 Nick Terra[]bbs is now known as TeRrAPh0eNiX (phoenix@ACC3A440.ipt.aol.com)
06:36:10TeRrAPh0eNiXyaay
06:36:15TeRrAPh0eNiXhey midk
06:36:19midknight2k3hi
06:36:21TeRrAPh0eNiXwhat's that guy playing video on?
06:36:25TeRrAPh0eNiXwhat machine?
06:36:26midknight2k3ajb
06:36:30midknight2k3rec20
06:36:32TeRrAPh0eNiXajbrec?
06:36:33midknight2k3i'd guess
06:36:34TeRrAPh0eNiXSHWEET
06:36:38midknight2k3yes
06:36:38stevenmI'm on a recorder w/ 20GB
06:36:39midknight2k3or fm
06:36:41TeRrAPh0eNiXcan i have can i have plz oh yeah
06:36:42TeRrAPh0eNiXlol
06:36:44TeRrAPh0eNiXhow can it?
06:36:45midknight2k3didnt know?
06:36:48TeRrAPh0eNiXlike what kind of video?
06:36:53midknight2k3it can
06:36:58TeRrAPh0eNiXb/w video?
06:36:58midknight2k3.rvf
06:37:01TeRrAPh0eNiXgrayscale?
06:37:04TeRrAPh0eNiXwhat's rvf hehe
06:37:05midknight2k3gray
06:37:10TeRrAPh0eNiXoh
06:37:11TeRrAPh0eNiXhmm
06:37:12midknight2k3rockbox video file
06:37:14midknight2k3hereL:
06:37:16midknight2k3here:
06:37:16midknight2k3http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/doom/small.zip
06:37:20midknight2k3try them
06:37:24midknight2k3if you have later cvs
06:37:26midknight2k3its really small
06:37:27TeRrAPh0eNiXcan i convert regular videos to rvf?
06:37:30midknight2k3yes
06:37:32midknight2k3AVI
06:37:33TeRrAPh0eNiXhow can i play ch8 games?
06:37:36TeRrAPh0eNiXAVI?
06:37:38TeRrAPh0eNiXSHWEET
06:37:38midknight2k3play them.
06:37:44stevenmWait a sec
06:37:46midknight2k3you need them to be 112x64 though
06:37:57midknight2k3?
06:37:59stevenmthe conversion utilities, are they only for Windows?
06:38:10midknight2k3no
06:38:12midknight2k3linux too
06:38:16stevenmOoo, where?
06:38:23midknight2k3on linux?
06:38:27TeRrAPh0eNiX(Duo): HOW HARD DO I HAVE TO PULL THIS STUPID JUMPER
06:38:27TeRrAPh0eNiX(Rai): hm
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06:38:27DBUGEnqueued KICK TeRrAPh0eNiX
06:38:27TeRrAPh0eNiX(Rai): That was too hard.
06:38:34TeRrAPh0eNiXsorry
06:38:35TeRrAPh0eNiXwrong box
06:39:17midknight2k3stevenm: are you on linux?
06:39:28stevenmmidknight2k3, yea
06:39:47midknight2k3ok just run them like you run your programs through the console
06:40:06midknight2k3but they need to be sized at 112x64
06:40:15stevenmrun what ?
06:40:19midknight2k3the files
06:40:25midknight2k3hang on
06:40:27midknight2k3programs
06:40:46midknight2k3http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/doom/source.zip
06:40:52midknight2k3er try and compile them
06:40:56midknight2k3er
06:40:57midknight2k3lol
06:41:00midknight2k3if you can
06:41:05midknight2k3dunno actually maybe not
06:41:18stevenmoh God
06:41:37midknight2k3?
06:42:02stevenmI've never been able to get rockbox stuff to compile.. error on building gcc
06:42:18midknight2k3odd
06:42:25midknight2k3this isnt any part of rockbox though
06:43:46stevenmhmm.. lets see
06:44:54stevenmno go
06:45:01stevenmno makefile
06:45:09stevenmand just regular GCCing on haftone.c returns error
06:45:30midknight2k3hmm
06:45:33midknight2k3perhaps not
06:45:36stevenmhmm.. g++ seems to have done the trick!
06:45:37TeRrAPh0eNiXhye midk
06:45:38midknight2k3you may want to speak with IDC on that one
06:45:40midknight2k3oh cool
06:45:43midknight2k3hye terra
06:45:48TeRrAPh0eNiXdo i have regular ajbrec or v2?
06:45:58midknight2k3re
06:45:59TeRrAPh0eNiXlol
06:46:00midknight2k3reg*
06:46:02TeRrAPh0eNiXokay
06:46:04TeRrAPh0eNiXwhat's v2?
06:46:13midknight2k3rec in a fm body
06:47:06TeRrAPh0eNiXah
06:47:15midknight2k3an fm body*
06:48:09stevenmmdk, if the util allows you so specify an outpot framerate, why doesn;t the plugin obey that?
06:48:28TeRrAPh0eNiXwhoa, i thought rockbox was only allowed to go max 250 or some kb
06:48:37midknight2k3200
06:48:38midknight2k3actually
06:48:48TeRrAPh0eNiXwhoa
06:48:54TeRrAPh0eNiXit's 400 some on the rec
06:49:04TeRrAPh0eNiX430kb, in fact
06:49:04midknight2k3stevenm: the plugin only does up to it's possible framerate
06:49:07midknight2k3what?!
06:49:19midknight2k3huh wha where
06:49:29midknight2k3stevenm: it can't show "300fps"
06:50:04midknight2k3what terra
06:50:17TeRrAPh0eNiXi jsut downloaded new rockbox for rec
06:50:20TeRrAPh0eNiXand it said 430kb
06:50:23TeRrAPh0eNiXoh, oh
06:50:35TeRrAPh0eNiXit was including the .rockbox folder >_<
06:50:36TeRrAPh0eNiXlol
06:50:41midknight2k3yes.
06:50:47TeRrAPh0eNiXforgot hehe
06:50:48midknight2k3177kb
06:51:31TeRrAPh0eNiXohhh kay
06:51:46TeRrAPh0eNiXhow do i play .rvfs on the ajb now?
06:51:51midknight2k3play them.
06:51:51midknight2k3thats it
06:53:08TeRrAPh0eNiXi extracted
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06:54:22midknight2k3then to ajb
06:54:25midknight2k3then play
06:54:55TeRrAPh0eNiXhmm
06:55:09TeRrAPh0eNiXi made a folder on the ajb for rvf videos but they don't show
06:55:31TeRrAPh0eNiXnvm
06:55:32TeRrAPh0eNiXi got it
06:55:38TeRrAPh0eNiXi had it to "display only music
06:55:44midknight2k3lol
06:56:06TeRrAPh0eNiXholy SHIT
06:56:11TeRrAPh0eNiXthat is fuxing GOOD
06:56:13midknight2k3its ugly
06:56:16midknight2k3with new
06:56:16TeRrAPh0eNiXwho's lena lol
06:56:21midknight2k3older video.rock is better
06:56:23midknight2k3is it all enw?
06:56:24midknight2k3new*?
06:56:33TeRrAPh0eNiXit's good for a little PoS player like dees
06:56:46midknight2k3nm
06:57:03TeRrAPh0eNiXis there sound for them?
06:57:06TeRrAPh0eNiXno, right
06:57:06TeRrAPh0eNiXlol
06:57:20midknight2k3wait
06:57:20midknight2k3no
06:57:21midknight2k3wait
06:57:24TeRrAPh0eNiXwhos lena
06:57:28TeRrAPh0eNiXshes hot lol
06:57:29stevenmmdk, if in the rvf file it is specified to play at 71FPS, then why does the plugin play it at 100 FPS?
06:57:30midknight2k3well is it smooth for you
06:57:36TeRrAPh0eNiXit seems smooth
06:57:38TeRrAPh0eNiXwith the tree
06:57:40TeRrAPh0eNiXswaying tree
06:57:48midknight2k3steven, it just takes the file and plays it back at X speed, no matter what
06:57:50midknight2k3yeah lol
06:57:55TeRrAPh0eNiXa bit unclear though
06:58:03stevenmthen why the frame rate parameter
06:58:04TeRrAPh0eNiXwhere r some longer rvf movies?
06:58:16midknight2k3there is a long one
06:58:18midknight2k3its 6MB
06:58:28midknight2k3steven, thats just to make it slower if you want
06:58:50stevenmI do... these files are specified at 71 FPS, but they are played at 100
06:59:03TeRrAPh0eNiXwhat's the "viewer" in plugins?
06:59:08midknight2k3text viewer
06:59:11midknight2k3play txt file
06:59:15TeRrAPh0eNiXooooohh
06:59:17midknight2k3stevenm: it's because...
06:59:19TeRrAPh0eNiXremember midk
06:59:23TeRrAPh0eNiXmusic.txt
06:59:24TeRrAPh0eNiXlol
06:59:27midknight2k3lol
06:59:39midknight2k3it's hard to explain
06:59:48midknight2k3it plays back 100 frames per second
06:59:48stevenmtry me
06:59:59midknight2k3even if it plays back some frames 3 times
07:00
07:00:07midknight2k3it updates every 100 seconds think of it that way
07:00:13stevenmAh gotcha
07:00:17midknight2k3even if every time it updates it's not new info
07:00:48stevenmI guess that is what makes the grayscale look like crap.. it doesnt divide evenly and it looks completely wrong
07:00:59stevenmAh I'll jsut wait for the new plugin
07:01:23TeRrAPh0eNiXthere's been a better version of video?
07:01:38stevenmTeRrAPh0eNiX, the grayscale used to look right
07:01:45TeRrAPh0eNiXoh
07:01:47stevenmit wasn't all gittery or blurry or twitchy like that
07:01:47midknight2k3well
07:01:50midknight2k3steven
07:01:53TeRrAPh0eNiXyeah hmm
07:01:57midknight2k3terra has the good kind
07:01:59midknight2k3still
07:02:05stevenmAah
07:02:07midknight2k3only if you have a bleeding edge does it look crapped
07:02:15stevenmI have the daily
07:02:15midknight2k3DON'T UPDATE YOUR ROCKBOX!
07:02:16midknight2k3lol
07:02:22midknight2k3oh wait
07:02:23stevenmwhich is 1/27
07:02:25midknight2k3mayve it is
07:02:42stevenmthe newest daily is the same as bleeding edge
07:02:49midknight2k3ahh
07:02:50midknight2k3you right
07:02:51midknight2k3terra
07:02:56midknight2k3did you just get a brand new cvs?
07:03:13TeRrAPh0eNiXcvs: ?
07:03:16TeRrAPh0eNiXi just upgraded yeah
07:03:21midknight2k3to the latest?
07:03:29midknight2k3get an older version, such as 2 days ago
07:03:30TeRrAPh0eNiXdaily build, not bleeding edge
07:03:33TeRrAPh0eNiXokay
07:03:34midknight2k3it will look a LOT better
07:03:38midknight2k3a way lot
07:03:39TeRrAPh0eNiXalright
07:03:52midknight2k3they crapped the blitting function in the newest one
07:04:01stevenmno, daily build is the same as bleeding edge
07:04:10stevenmget like, 1/26
07:04:14midknight2k3yes
07:04:19midknight2k322:03:19 | <midknight2k3> get an older version, such as 2 days ago
07:04:21TeRrAPh0eNiXi got 1/22
07:04:24midknight2k3thats fine
07:04:25TeRrAPh0eNiX>_>
07:04:28midknight2k3just use that AJZ
07:04:33midknight2k3just replace the ajz
07:04:33TeRrAPh0eNiXtoo old?
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07:04:37midknight2k3no
07:04:38midknight2k3its ok
07:04:38TeRrAPh0eNiXonly a few days lol
07:04:40midknight2k31/22 is fine
07:04:41midknight2k3yeah
07:04:46midknight2k3replace your current AJZ file
07:04:49midknight2k3and then play the videos again
07:04:52midknight2k3smooth as butta
07:04:59TeRrAPh0eNiXi overwrite the .rockbox folder
07:05:07TeRrAPh0eNiXextract everything
07:05:12midknight2k3sure
07:05:48TeRrAPh0eNiXr there some sites with rvf files?
07:05:55TeRrAPh0eNiXsmall, like 1mb or so
07:05:56midknight2k3no
07:06:01midknight2k3make your own is all
07:06:49TeRrAPh0eNiXdern
07:07:34stevenmTeRrAPh0eNiX, make the right avi w/ vdub
07:08:22TeRrAPh0eNiXlol there's an ajb remote
07:08:26TeRrAPh0eNiX-_-
07:08:36midknight2k3yes
07:08:38midknight2k3its UGLY
07:08:39midknight2k3lol
07:08:52TeRrAPh0eNiXits very, VERY fugly
07:09:00midknight2k3fugly LOL
07:09:06TeRrAPh0eNiXuhhh
07:09:06TeRrAPh0eNiXajb screen:
07:09:09TeRrAPh0eNiXBoot changed
07:09:13midknight2k3press play
07:09:16TeRrAPh0eNiXReboot now?
07:09:16TeRrAPh0eNiXPlay = yes
07:09:22midknight2k3that just says theres a new version
07:09:24midknight2k3reboot, ues
07:09:25midknight2k3yes*
07:09:27midknight2k3smart isnt it
07:09:38midknight2k3it knows you replaced ajbrec.ajz
07:09:58TeRrAPh0eNiXk
07:09:59TeRrAPh0eNiXdamn!!!
07:10:05TeRrAPh0eNiXit fuxed everything i had up :(
07:10:07midknight2k3?
07:10:10midknight2k3the settings?
07:10:24TeRrAPh0eNiXuhh
07:10:24TeRrAPh0eNiXyeah
07:10:26midknight2k3did you save them to a CFG file?
07:10:30midknight2k3do that every so often
07:10:31TeRrAPh0eNiXit doesn't look THAT much better
07:10:33TeRrAPh0eNiXno >_<
07:10:36midknight2k3yes it does
07:10:37midknight2k3doesnt it
07:10:38TeRrAPh0eNiXshiznit
07:10:43TeRrAPh0eNiXlol
07:10:49midknight2k3doesnt look better?
07:10:51midknight2k3smoother?
07:10:58midknight2k3brb ppl
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07:12:05TeRrAPh0eNiXhehe bathroom
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07:15:01TeRrAPh0eNiXdamn, i want ogg
07:15:02TeRrAPh0eNiXlol
07:15:37TeRrAPh0eNiXbrb
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07:15:58 Nick midk|bathroom is now known as midknight2k3 (zakk@AC93CD05.ipt.aol.com)
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07:23:47TeRrAPh0eNiXohhhh
07:23:52TeRrAPh0eNiXgod i wants my karma
07:24:05midknight2k3why
07:24:13midknight2k3crap
07:24:14midknight2k3idc
07:24:15midknight2k3was jere
07:24:16TeRrAPh0eNiXi swear, when the delivery guy gets it here i'm gonna be like
07:24:21midknight2k3i love you?
07:24:25TeRrAPh0eNiX"OHHHHHH" and cum all over the box
07:24:33midknight2k3uh
07:24:39TeRrAPh0eNiX:-P
07:24:40midknight2k3tmi?
07:24:43TeRrAPh0eNiXi' j/k!
07:25:01TeRrAPh0eNiXi want it so i can listen to pc-quality sound on da go
07:25:44TeRrAPh0eNiXi have realtek AC97 audio
07:25:51midknight2k3lol
07:25:53TeRrAPh0eNiXhow does that compare to audigy?
07:25:57TeRrAPh0eNiXis tha bad?
07:25:58TeRrAPh0eNiXlol
07:26:05midknight2k3i think so, yes.
07:26:10TeRrAPh0eNiXehhh crap
07:26:17CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
07:26:17*TeRrAPh0eNiX brightens up
07:26:24TeRrAPh0eNiXhey! maybe the karma will sound even better than my pc!
07:26:38TeRrAPh0eNiXthat would be teH ownz0r
07:26:45TeRrAPh0eNiXlol sorry
07:27:02midknight2k3of course
07:27:13midknight2k3oh btw
07:27:16midknight2k3its not in a box
07:27:23midknight2k3its in a plastic blister pack
07:28:20TeRrAPh0eNiXi know
07:28:23TeRrAPh0eNiXbut it will come in a box
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07:28:31midknight2k3idc
07:28:36midknight2k3you ruined the video player
07:28:37midknight2k3i mean, hi
07:28:40TeRrAPh0eNiXi did?!
07:28:44TeRrAPh0eNiXoh oh
07:28:44midknight2k3its ugly now
07:28:52TeRrAPh0eNiXi thought idc = i don't care
07:28:52midknight2k3with this extra 25fps
07:28:52TeRrAPh0eNiXlol
07:29:02stevenmthe grayscale is all, well, discombobulated
07:29:03midknight2k3it goes too fast and its very blotch
07:29:09midknight2k3blotchy*
07:29:11TeRrAPh0eNiXlena is fugly now :(
07:29:20midknight2k3LOL
07:29:25TeRrAPh0eNiXXD
07:29:34midknight2k3what terra said.
07:29:41TeRrAPh0eNiXLOL
07:29:42TeRrAPh0eNiXoh man
07:29:43[IDC]Dragoni know
07:29:46TeRrAPh0eNiXthat was good hehe
07:29:49midknight2k3is it planned to be fixed?
07:29:57[IDC]Dragonyes
07:30:00midknight2k3soon?
07:30:10midknight2k3ohh i hear you tested with audio
07:30:18TeRrAPh0eNiXvideo w/ audio?
07:30:19TeRrAPh0eNiXshweet
07:30:51[IDC]Dragonfirst i need the new, fast code in the field
07:31:28[IDC]Dragonto make an fps test tool and a survey
07:31:41midknight2k3survey?
07:31:41midknight2k3yay
07:31:52[IDC]Dragonyes, audio works
07:32:06midknight2k3YAY
07:32:16midknight2k3aww man
07:32:20midknight2k3can you help real quick
07:32:31midknight2k3in a sense needle_cover_mode (int) can be 0, 1, or 2
07:32:32TeRrAPh0eNiXrockbox > karma in features
07:32:41midknight2k3how can i cycle through the modes via keypress
07:32:44[IDC]Dragoni need to find out the internal refresh rates of your displays
07:33:11midknight2k3i tried: if(needle_cover_mode>2) needle_cover_mode ++; else needle_cover_mode == 0;
07:33:29[IDC]Dragongrayscales look best if that matches
07:34:16stevenmmdk, how is else needle_cover_mode==0; gonna do anything?
07:34:24midknight2k3make it 0?
07:34:32stevenm== != = ?
07:34:34midknight2k3if its 2 and we press f2 i want it back to 0
07:35:00stevenmwhy not else needle_cover_mode = 0; ?
07:35:08midknight2k3= 0?
07:35:09midknight2k3odd
07:35:14midknight2k3the rest of the code is ==
07:35:14TeRrAPh0eNiX933|< 5p34|<!
07:35:16midknight2k3i'll try it
07:35:20stevenmWait a sec..
07:35:25stevenm== is equivalent
07:35:29stevenmas in, if (a == b)
07:35:33stevenmbut = is assignment
07:35:36stevenmas in, a = 5;
07:35:45stevenmin reg. c++, anyway
07:36:08stevenmoh well, nvm
07:36:08TeRrAPh0eNiXi should learn c++
07:36:16TeRrAPh0eNiXjust to know what u guys r talking about lol
07:36:35stevenmTeRrAPh0eNiX, in C++, there are two operators
07:36:35TeRrAPh0eNiXi know it's coding to make the rockbox work
07:36:44midknight2k3if and else
07:36:54stevenm= lets you set something to something else
07:37:06stevenmand == checks if two things are equal, and if so, returns a nonzero value
07:37:13midknight2k3ohh
07:37:25TeRrAPh0eNiX*blinks*
07:37:33midknight2k3they confuse me
07:37:39TeRrAPh0eNiXmidk i'll buy your "c++for dummies" now
07:37:39TeRrAPh0eNiX:D
07:37:44midknight2k3c for dummies actually
07:37:47TeRrAPh0eNiXoh
07:37:49TeRrAPh0eNiXdern ;(
07:37:50TeRrAPh0eNiXlol
07:37:54TeRrAPh0eNiXwhat's the difference?
07:37:56midknight2k3rockbox is c
07:37:57TeRrAPh0eNiXis it big?
07:37:58TeRrAPh0eNiXoh
07:38:05midknight2k3c++ just has some extra junk
07:38:08TeRrAPh0eNiXah
07:38:10stevenmmdk, does C support classes?
07:38:27stevenmor just C++ ?
07:38:29midknight2k3stevenm: dunno, haven't got that far
07:38:51stevenmIt would have made life a LOT easier if it did
07:39:11midknight2k3YAY IT WORKS
07:39:13midknight2k3thanks stevenm
07:39:16stevenmnp
07:39:35TeRrAPh0eNiXi'm gonna go to bed now
07:39:42stevenmalways a good idea
07:39:43midknight2k3ok
07:39:45midknight2k3nites!
07:39:48midknight2k3i want that ajb
07:39:52stevenmgood night TeRrAPh0eNiX
07:39:53TeRrAPh0eNiXyep
07:39:53TeRrAPh0eNiXthx
07:39:56TeRrAPh0eNiXdon't worry about the TeRrA
07:39:58[IDC]Dragonnitee
07:39:59stevenmI got one for $15 !
07:40:00TeRrAPh0eNiXjust to "terraph0enix"
07:40:03TeRrAPh0eNiXand it'll come out
07:40:04TeRrAPh0eNiXUHH
07:40:05TeRrAPh0eNiXSHUT UP!
07:40:07TeRrAPh0eNiXSHH
07:40:08midknight2k3i want that ajb
07:40:09TeRrAPh0eNiXLOL
07:40:15TeRrAPh0eNiXi know
07:40:18midknight2k3ooh
07:40:19midknight2k3oh
07:40:21midknight2k3stevenm
07:40:23midknight2k3where
07:40:25TeRrAPh0eNiXNOOO
07:40:27stevenma friend
07:40:28midknight2k3i'm interested
07:40:29*TeRrAPh0eNiX cries
07:40:30midknight2k3aww
07:40:31midknight2k3shucks
07:40:32stevenmwith a completely junked HD
07:40:35midknight2k3aww
07:40:35*TeRrAPh0eNiX bangs head on wall
07:40:37*TeRrAPh0eNiX lightens up
07:40:39midknight2k3triple schucks
07:40:39TeRrAPh0eNiXnvm then
07:40:40stevenmand my boss's laptop was STOLEN the week before
07:40:40TeRrAPh0eNiXhehehe
07:40:40midknight2k3LOL
07:40:44midknight2k3LOL!!!!
07:40:47midknight2k3ROFLMAo
07:40:49TeRrAPh0eNiXWOO HOO!
07:40:51midknight2k3oh wait
07:40:56midknight2k3i thought you meant laptop hd
07:40:56TeRrAPh0eNiX$120 here i come yay
07:40:57TeRrAPh0eNiXyeeeeees?
07:40:57midknight2k3lol!
07:41:00stevenmand he still had the HD from it, so he kjust kinda gave it to me. put 2 and 2 2getoer and, instant 20GB ajbrec
07:41:07midknight2k3nice
07:41:10TeRrAPh0eNiXcool
07:41:37stevenmI wonder if you can boot Linux off it?
07:41:49TeRrAPh0eNiXlol
07:41:53midknight2k3no.
07:41:55midknight2k3lol
07:41:56TeRrAPh0eNiXmidk do u still have the music.txt file?
07:42:06midknight2k3some newer BIOSs actually support loading from usb disks
07:42:09midknight2k3terra: yes i think so
07:42:11stevenmif say, you compile usb-storage into the kernel, and shove kernel on a floppy, and plug ajb into computer, and tell kernel that root is on ajb, and partition half of AJB as like, ext3 ?
07:42:21stevenmyea mine does
07:42:24TeRrAPh0eNiXmidk: then look through it and tell me which stuff u want to keep
07:42:45TeRrAPh0eNiXcause i'm gonna put a crapload of music onto my computer from the ajb
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07:43:22TeRrAPh0eNiXbye idc
07:43:24TeRrAPh0eNiXlol
07:43:24stevenmTeRrAPh0eNiX, How big a crapload?
07:43:26midknight2k3you can just copy it
07:43:28TeRrAPh0eNiXumm
07:43:29midknight2k3why not let me have it all
07:43:37TeRrAPh0eNiXi'll do that
07:43:40midknight2k3lol
07:43:41TeRrAPh0eNiXmake a big copy
07:43:47midknight2k3then we both get it all
07:43:48TeRrAPh0eNiXi'll delete it from my pc hd then
07:43:50TeRrAPh0eNiXokaky
07:43:53TeRrAPh0eNiXi don't want it all
07:43:57stevenmit may take a REALLY long time. If you're handy with hardware, invest in an HD adapter
07:43:57TeRrAPh0eNiXsome of it is utter poo
07:43:58midknight2k3whatever
07:44:09TeRrAPh0eNiXi have usb 1.1 >_<
07:44:15midknight2k3aww
07:44:20TeRrAPh0eNiXso it'll take all night to do 12gb
07:44:27stevenmwoah! ajbrec supports 2.0 ??
07:44:30midknight2k3yes
07:44:33TeRrAPh0eNiXhuh?
07:44:34midknight2k320gbs
07:44:35TeRrAPh0eNiXyeah one does
07:44:40midknight2k3and the fms and later
07:44:52stevenmHow does one ENABLE usb2.0 support?
07:45:08stevenm!!!
07:45:09TeRrAPh0eNiXcould i do usb 2.0 on my ajbrec?
07:45:19midknight2k3yes
07:45:22midknight2k3steven
07:45:23TeRrAPh0eNiXi have a really new computer
07:45:24midknight2k3whats the model
07:45:36stevenmmdk, model?
07:45:48midknight2k3only 20gb
07:45:52midknight2k3are possible with 2.0
07:45:57stevenmNuts
07:46:05stevenmMine was a 10GB originally
07:46:21*midknight2k3 dances with the only 2.0 equipped model of the 3 people chatting atm
07:47:04TeRrAPh0eNiXi hate u
07:47:06TeRrAPh0eNiXlol
07:47:10TeRrAPh0eNiXdamn!
07:47:11midknight2k3:)
07:47:19TeRrAPh0eNiXso my 15 gb wont support 2.0?
07:47:22TeRrAPh0eNiXfux!
07:47:24midknight2k3no
07:47:25TeRrAPh0eNiXTHIS IS SO FUGLY
07:47:25midknight2k3oh wait
07:47:27midknight2k3fux!
07:47:30midknight2k3thats right
07:47:30TeRrAPh0eNiXlol!
07:47:35midknight2k3how can i do
07:47:36midknight2k3oh well
07:47:37midknight2k3its ok
07:47:37TeRrAPh0eNiXi say that IRL sometimes
07:47:41TeRrAPh0eNiXits' creepy
07:47:42midknight2k3lol
07:47:54stevenmah well, got it cheap, cant complain
07:48:06TeRrAPh0eNiXhmm
07:48:18stevenmYou can always pop HD out and throw it in a PC
07:48:21TeRrAPh0eNiXhow can i copy my entire drive to the PC?
07:48:33stevenmTeRrAPh0eNiX, the same way you'd copy anything off it
07:48:34TeRrAPh0eNiXright click, copy.... paste
07:48:36TeRrAPh0eNiXlol
07:48:37stevenmjust copy everything
07:48:40midknight2k3terra: just select it all and paste it
07:48:43TeRrAPh0eNiXokay
07:48:43midknight2k3or do Copy To
07:48:46TeRrAPh0eNiXi got it
07:48:51stevenmor cp /mnt/archos /home/TeRrAPh0eNiX -rf
07:48:58midknight2k3lool
07:49:14stevenmdepends on if you're running BlueScreen XP or not
07:49:23midknight2k3mines GreenScreen
07:49:33stevenmsorry, couldnt resist
07:49:47stevenmthe sad thing about all the windows bashing is that it's all true
07:49:53midknight2k3fu stevenm
07:49:56midknight2k3:)
07:49:58midknight2k3i know
07:50:03midknight2k3mac os x = great
07:50:06TeRrAPh0eNiX125 min remaining
07:50:12TeRrAPh0eNiX-__-
07:50:14stevenmTeRrAPh0eNiX, Watch the copying
07:50:18TeRrAPh0eNiXi am
07:50:28stevenmyou may wanna do it in 1GB bursts, or you wear out battery and it is gonna die
07:50:48TeRrAPh0eNiXhehe okay
07:50:51stevenmthe 6 hrs of battery life (or whichever) assumes PERIODIC HD access, not constant reading
07:51:12stevenmthe HD is like, 0.5 A
07:51:31TeRrAPh0eNiXi just copied (jukebox M:/) and pasted to my music/ajbrec drive
07:51:37TeRrAPh0eNiXthe WHOLE thing
07:51:40stevenmwith 1500mAh cells, it will run down fairly quickly, what with powering the rest of the electronics and all
07:51:40TeRrAPh0eNiXoops
07:51:41TeRrAPh0eNiXlol
07:51:46TeRrAPh0eNiXi stopped it
07:51:52TeRrAPh0eNiXi'm sleeping now anyway
07:51:56midknight2k3ok nite
07:51:59stevenmdo it little by little, and attach charger too
07:52:00midknight2k3and remember
07:52:01stevenmnite
07:52:01midknight2k3fux
07:52:04TeRrAPh0eNiXwhat?
07:52:07TeRrAPh0eNiXi'm staying hold up
07:52:11midknight2k3yay
07:52:16stevenmschweet
07:52:16TeRrAPh0eNiXtransferring linkin park lol
07:57:06TeRrAPh0eNiXheh−−now that i'm still here... nobody's talking
07:57:08TeRrAPh0eNiXlol
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08:00:40stevenmanyone hav ehte 8 meg upgrade?
08:01:19TeRrAPh0eNiXusb 1.1 isn't THAT slow
08:01:21TeRrAPh0eNiXit's fine...
08:01:33TeRrAPh0eNiX12 320k mp3s take about 3 minutes
08:02:05TeRrAPh0eNiXeh sorry, 16*
08:06:19midknight2k3bye all
08:06:23TeRrAPh0eNiXlol
08:06:23stevenmnite
08:06:24TeRrAPh0eNiXbye
08:06:27TeRrAPh0eNiXg2g too
08:06:28midknight2k3nite
08:06:33stevenmand then there was one.
08:06:40TeRrAPh0eNiXlol
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08:06:43TeRrAPh0eNiXsorry steve :D
08:06:50stevenmheh yea I need sleep too
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10:44:43[IDC]DragonHi LinusN, you there?
10:44:48LinusNi'm here
10:45:01[IDC]Dragongood for you ;)
10:45:03LinusNwhat's the bug assembler listing doing in ata.c?
10:45:06LinusNbig
10:45:08kurzhaarrockerMoin [IDC]Dragon.
10:45:08kurzhaarrockerI failed to use the mp3_playback stuff. Who does the bitswapping when.?
10:45:21[IDC]Dragonjust removed it, that was a flaw.
10:45:34LinusNah
10:45:35[IDC]Dragonkurzhaarrocker: you do.
10:45:56*LinusN is debugging gdb using gdb. very confusing. :-)
10:45:56[IDC]DragonLinusN: I'm very pleased with my recent speedups.
10:46:06LinusNyou should be
10:46:08kurzhaarrocker:( I need to write frame header detection for bitswapped things then. :(
10:46:41[IDC]Dragonthe LCD code now leaves enough CPU to do other stuff.
10:46:59[IDC]Dragon(while doing the halftoned display)
10:47:08kurzhaarrockerApropos lcd stuff: I noticed the the lcd_invertrect sometimes has strange behaviour.
10:47:46kurzhaarrockerSometimes it doesn't invert everything.
10:47:57[IDC]Dragondunno that one
10:48:10kurzhaarrockerI haven't found out details, I'll report, when I have.
10:49:52[IDC]DragonLinusN: have you looked at my tricky serialization for the LCD?
10:50:04LinusNnope
10:50:17[IDC]DragonI think this is really the limit now, impossible to get it faster.
10:50:31LinusNi bet you thought that the last time too :-)
10:52:29[IDC]Dragonthis time I'm more sure
10:52:39[IDC]Dragon:)
10:53:22kurzhaarrocker[IDC]Dragon: In a cvs comment you mention that 75 fps are needed. Why is 75 fps such a magical value?
10:53:45[IDC]DragonI exploit the the rotate moves the bit into the carry, the do a carry add to get it into the lsb.
10:54:03[IDC]DragonFortunately the data line is the lsb on recorders.
10:54:28[IDC]Dragonkurzhaarrocker: that's about the internal scan rate of the LCD.
10:54:42kurzhaarrockerok
10:54:56[IDC]DragonI want each pixel do be displayed exactly once.
10:55:32kurzhaarrockerI bet you crave for a v-sync irq :)
10:55:45[IDC]Dragondefinitely.
10:55:58[IDC]Dragonbut there's none.
10:56:41[IDC]DragonIf the display is connected via parallel interface, you can read out the scan position.
10:56:53[IDC]DragonBut the serial interface is write-only.
10:57:21[IDC]Dragongotta leave for work.
10:57:28kurzhaarrockerhave fun
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14:54:57trackHi
14:55:07kurzhaarrockerhi
14:55:09trackhi
14:55:13webmindhi
14:55:18trackI quit mirc because i didn't want to register it
14:55:24trackso Im now using leafchat
14:56:28trackseems alright
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16:26:35Guest57hi all
16:27:19Guest57I broke my stereo jack connector, and I d like to know if someone know the part number, and where I could order it, (i m in france)
16:30:07kurzhaarrockerWhen mine was broken I didn't find any replacements either.
16:32:06Guest57i think it must exist one? so how do you repair it
16:33:26kurzhaarrockerI used a normal one glued it somehwere and connected it with some wires. Since I don't have a remote control I didn't care about the 4th contact.
16:33:50Guest57I use it :) so if someone ele
16:34:10Guest57if someone else has found a replacement part , please inform me
16:34:34kurzhaarrockerHave you tried the mailing list?
16:35:03Guest57not yet
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18:10:11ka-boomGuys, I've got nice small russian font. How I can share it?
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18:11:22Guest57hi all
18:11:37Guest57 I get problem to nake a rb-checkout ?? any ideas advice ?
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18:16:38hardeepka-boom: post it on the patch tracker
18:17:01hardeepGuest57: what problem do you encounter?
18:20:48ka-boomGot it, thanks!
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18:21:34Guest57i get "end of file from server" ???
18:21:46Guest57any suggestions ??
18:22:15hardeepGuest57: hmmm, try following the instructions here in case there is a problem with that script: http://rockbox.haxx.se/cvs.html
18:22:30hardeepGuest57: specifically the "Anonymous read-only checkout" section
18:23:25Guest57i m reading it
18:23:25Guest57thanks
18:23:57Guest57here is the problem, the login retrun the message "end of file from server"
18:25:43hardeepGuest57: ah, yes, I'm seeing it too. There must be a problem with the sourceforge cvs servers
18:26:59Guest57perhaps the problem is only for the naonymous access
18:27:55hardeepyeah, developer access works
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19:11:17trackhi
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19:15:25trackhi edx
19:16:02edxhi
19:16:23trackcan u edit playlists now?
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19:40:31trackthat "indices" option in playlist viewer is handy
19:42:10trackyou could press Fx and UP or Down to move enteries in the playlist viewer
19:42:12trackif possible
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20:16:22trackhiya
20:17:39hardeephey
20:18:15trackhiya Hardeep
20:18:22trackHow does that sound for a playlist editor
20:18:31trackFx and UP or DOWN to move a song around
20:19:16hardeepFx+UP doesn't work on the recorder
20:19:42trackoh
20:19:49trackok what about ON and UP and DOWN?
20:19:58hardeepON+UP = page up
20:20:04trackhmm
20:20:58trackthe only other way I can think of is to have an option in the Fx menus "Select song to move in playlist"
20:21:25trackwhen selected on the chosen song, you can move the song around then press PLAY to assign the song to its new position
20:21:25hardeeptrack: You can already move a track: ON+PLAY->Move
20:21:34trackI tried that and it doesnt' work
20:21:36tracklet me try again
20:21:40hardeepit works exactly like you describe
20:21:54trackoh ok
20:21:56tracklet me try
20:22:02trackgot my recorder here
20:22:51trackThanks hardeep
20:23:35trackits just that the key combination wasnt' described on the home page
20:31:41trackIs the Archos capable of assigning playlists via id3-tags such as genre or artisr/album?
20:44:13hardeepZagor: should features that were implemented in 2.1 be marked as Closed/Fixed or just Fixed?
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20:49:50Guest57hi all
20:49:56trackHi Guest57
20:50:17Guest57has somebody any code to implement the memmove ?
20:50:24trackmemmove?
20:50:26trackwhats' that?
20:50:44Guest57a ansi functio to copy a block ofd memory
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20:51:38track?
20:51:41trackoh
20:52:01trackim just downloading a version of Linux now
20:52:13trackim trying Knoppix as it can be booted from a CD
20:52:28Guest57yes it is a good first trry
20:52:31trackyea
20:52:38trackman thank god for 1Mb broadband
20:52:44trackits a 700Mb ISO file
20:53:04trackIm aware Rockbox can be compiled without additional software in Linux
20:53:09trackthats why Im trying it
20:53:19tracki may fiddle with the code in the source and see what I can acheve
20:53:23trackachieve
20:56:33trackHardeep can you just use Notepad to alter the code?
20:56:56hardeeptrack: yeah, any text editor is fine
20:57:19trackcool
20:57:29trackand is there an easy way to compile in Linux?
20:57:49hardeeptrack: btw, you need the sh1 cross compiler to build rockbox, even on linux
20:57:53trackoh
20:58:05trackwhere do I find the sh1 cross compiler?
20:58:12hardeepsee http://rockbox.haxx.se/cross-gcc.html
20:58:14trackthanks
20:58:22hardeepGuest57: what do you need memmove for?
20:59:53trackI wonder what tools Archos use to make their (rubbishy) firmwares
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21:00:45trackGuest57 Have you used Knoppix before?
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21:10:00Guest57yes I used it at work
21:10:18trackit runs off the CD?
21:10:47Guest57now there is aknoppix like cd for windows , really fun , looks for win boot cd bart pe under google , really nice
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21:43:05Zagorhardeep: if they shipped with 2.1 they should be closed+fixed
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21:48:35trackZagor what does the different % settings for Bi-directional scrolling limit do? I still don't quite understand it
21:49:06Zagorit controls how long the string can be (relative to screen width) before it reverts to normal circular scrolling
21:49:14trackoh right
21:49:37trackbecause on some id3 tags the scrolling is circular whilst on others its bidirectional
21:49:47Zagoryeah
21:50:30trackeven on the same song
21:50:41trackthe artist could be circular whilst the title could be bi-direct
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