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#rockbox log for 2004-01-29

00:00:51 Join top_bloke [0] (~ekolb_pot@209.109.245.200)
00:14:10 Join midknight2k3 [0] (zakk@AC89A292.ipt.aol.com)
00:14:25midknight2k3hi idc
00:14:33midknight2k3hi tops
00:14:35midknight2k3hi track
00:14:37trackhey midknight
00:14:39track:-)
00:14:41Cosmo`nn all
00:14:43midknight2k3heys
00:14:45trackman ur vu meter rocks
00:14:57midknight2k3well diddystar5 started it
00:15:00 Quit Cosmo` ("(13:31:38) (@Sticky_Vickie) i like a drink tho")
00:15:02midknight2k3wouldn be possible w/o him
00:15:08midknight2k3how about a full screen pek meter
00:15:08trackyea but u made it so much better
00:15:15trackwhat do you mean?
00:15:24trackthe existing vu meter already does fullscreen
00:15:29midknight2k3or ... god i need to work on etch a sketch
00:15:35midknight2k3peak meter
00:15:37midknight2k3not vu
00:16:02trackas in the linear peakmeter in fullscreen not just one line on the wps?
00:16:27midknight2k3yeh
00:16:32midknight2k3i like plugins
00:16:34trackahh im with you
00:16:35midknight2k3any suggests?
00:16:37midknight2k3suggestions?
00:17:11trackHow about write basic .txt files?
00:17:19trackif u wanted to note down an address or memo?
00:17:26midknight2k3there's a calendar for that
00:17:31elinenbe[IDC]Dragon: 64.34 after a long while and my recorder is about as hot as it gets...
00:17:37midknight2k3but i could make a standalone
00:17:42trackyea thats what I mean
00:17:43elinenbeso, it dropped from 67 to 63
00:17:48[IDC]Dragonelinenbe: OK
00:18:03[IDC]Dragonaverage 65
00:18:28midknight2k3ooh what
00:19:05trackMidknight there is a bug in the calender
00:19:16midknight2k3whats that track
00:19:34trackin the option where it asks weekly, annualy, monthly, annualy is mis-spelt
00:20:02midknight2k3lol
00:20:08midknight2k3its annually
00:20:10midknight2k3anually
00:20:11trackyea
00:20:12midknight2k3annualy
00:20:14trackits mis-spelt
00:20:16midknight2k3annnuulally
00:20:21midknight2k3well whatever
00:20:54trackI have a plugin for you
00:21:07midknight2k3ok
00:21:14trackstopwatch or countdown timer
00:21:23midknight2k3i was gonna try that actually
00:21:26trackcool
00:22:44trackSeriously an on-the-fly ID3 tag editor would be neat
00:22:53midknight2k3there is one
00:23:02trackI couldn't find it myself
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00:37:18 Join kurzhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@Be546.b.pppool.de)
00:37:32kurzhaarrockerHi
00:37:51midknight2k3hi kurz
00:37:53midknight2k3not mid anymore
00:38:36kurzhaarrockerno, but the hair is growing already :)
00:38:38kurzhaarrocker[IDC]Dragon: you mentioned you wrote a test plugin for the mp3_playback.
00:39:03[IDC]Dragonyou want it?
00:39:16kurzhaarrockerJust to find out what I'm doing wrong ... :)
00:39:17midknight2k3plugin for mpeg playback?
00:39:23[IDC]Dragonit need a plugin API extension
00:39:30[IDC]Dragonneed=needs
00:39:38midknight2k3brb all
00:39:41kurzhaarrockerI don't care, I extended it already myself a lot ...
00:39:59 Nick midknight2k3 is now known as midk|BackIn20 (zakk@AC89A292.ipt.aol.com)
00:40:04[IDC]Dragondid you set the volume?
00:40:18kurzhaarrockerno
00:40:19[IDC]Dragonare you getting buffer traffic?
00:40:56kurzhaarrockerI didn't really try to detect that, I just gave it one large block..
00:41:11[IDC]Dragonah
00:41:26[IDC]Dragonbut you need to set the volume, else it's at 0
00:41:43*kurzhaarrocker tries
00:41:54[IDC]Dragonbuffer traffic works if your callback is called after a while
00:42:30kurzhaarrockerIt wasn't called, but maybe I wasn't patient enough...
00:44:38kurzhaarrockerDo I have to use mpeg_sound_set or mp3_init or both to set the volume?
00:45:26[IDC]Dragonboth, iirc
00:50:05[IDC]DragonI just emailed you the plugin and my API
00:50:25*kurzhaarrocker jumps up and down in joy
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01:00:05 Quit AciD ("www.cpm-fr.com")
01:00:05 Quit track (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
01:03:23kurzhaarrockerbtw: It might be interesting to have a setter for playtime, too. Imagine someone wants to play an excerpt from a song..
01:06:05[IDC]Dragonr u talking to me?
01:06:28kurzhaarrockeryes
01:06:46[IDC]DragonI don't understand...
01:07:05 Nick midk|BackIn20 is now known as midknight2k3 (zakk@AC89A292.ipt.aol.com)
01:07:08[IDC]Dragonthe mp3 functions are just for raw data transfer
01:07:09midknight2k3back
01:07:31kurzhaarrockerBut you have functions like mp3_get_playtime
01:07:35[IDC]Dragonthey don't know about frames, etc
01:07:46[IDC]Dragonthat's not used
01:07:59[IDC]Dragonin fact, it may get removed again
01:08:04kurzhaarrockerok
01:08:22[IDC]Dragonwas just a migration path for mpeg.c's timekeeping
01:08:44[IDC]Dragonwhich should rather do that job
01:09:02[IDC]Dragonbedtime for me
01:09:10kurzhaarrockerWill the existing playback code be eleminated somewhen?
01:09:23[IDC]Dragonno
01:09:42kurzhaarrockerThen the timekeeping for mp3_playback will differ?
01:09:44[IDC]Dragonthat's what we want and use
01:10:14[IDC]Dragoncurrently, it does. the DMA tick counts the time
01:10:42[IDC]Dragonand updates the id3 struct directly
01:10:49[IDC]Dragonwhich is kind of dirty
01:11:11[IDC]Dragonbut there's lots of other stuff to worry about
01:11:26[IDC]Dragon(like me getting sleep)
01:11:29kurzhaarrockeryes, I know that. But when a plugin plays back something - is it then the plug ins job to keep track of the time?
01:11:38kurzhaarrockerhave a nice nap :)
01:11:54[IDC]Dragonyes, the plugin should do so.
01:11:58kurzhaarrockerok
01:12:15[IDC]DragonIt's not the job of the low-level DMA transport engine.
01:12:16kurzhaarrockerthanx for the code
01:12:25[IDC]Dragonc u
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01:14:29 Join Bluechip [0] (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com)
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01:16:16midknight2k3BC
01:16:18midknight2k3hey!
01:16:23Bluechiphey hey m k
01:17:09midknight2k3haffent seen you lately
01:17:54Bluechiplikewise ;)
01:19:18BluechipWaiting for the plugin system so I can fix the win32sim in a way which is acceptable for inclusion - not having win32sim means dev is off limits for me atm
01:19:36Bluechip*new plugin system
01:19:43midknight2k3its not very good
01:19:47midknight2k3i was trying it recently
01:20:01Bluechipwhats wrong?
01:20:30midknight2k3it just doesnt work well. crashes when i load some plugins, doesnt always display right...
01:20:37 Join track [0] (~74d57721@ACBD758D.ipt.aol.com)
01:20:43trackhey midknight
01:20:52midknight2k3hi track
01:20:53track:)
01:20:58Bluechipguess it will be sometime then
01:21:00trackjust went to have dinner
01:21:07trackjIRC is still banning AOL users
01:21:19midknight2k3thats nice
01:21:21midknight2k3dont use it then
01:21:35trackwell bagder was here earlier, we were talking. he didn't mind my presence
01:21:43Bluechipalso couldn't get my new font going, so the audio controls kinda died too
01:22:13midknight2k3aww
01:22:20midknight2k3and you hated my screen :D
01:22:48Bluechipi think "hated" is a bit overkill :P
01:23:20midknight2k3disliked immensely
01:23:34Bluechiphow about "didn't like"
01:23:39midknight2k3why
01:24:09Bluechipwasn't what i was after
01:24:22midknight2k3why?
01:24:59Bluechipdidn't like the the idea of 4 controls + big logo
01:25:10midknight2k3i thought it WAS 4 controls
01:25:13midknight2k3what is it then
01:25:14midknight2k32
01:25:15midknight2k35
01:25:17midknight2k39?
01:25:24Bluechiplol
01:25:30Bluechip4 iirc
01:25:32midknight2k3it is 4
01:25:35midknight2k3ugh
01:25:40midknight2k3nm
01:25:51Bluechipstr, centre, corner & harmonics
01:26:03midknight2k3i had that
01:26:05midknight2k3anything else?
01:26:17Bluechipnot that I recall
01:26:51midknight2k3ok
01:27:06midknight2k3OK forgetting incident
01:27:42Bluechipshame i didn't work out quite what the controls did
01:27:49midknight2k3they sound nice
01:27:54midknight2k3too bad you cant make them work
01:27:58midknight2k3they sound REALLY NICFE
01:28:00midknight2k3nice*
01:28:07midknight2k3they put "bass boost" to shame
01:28:07Bluechipnot a matter of can't
01:28:23Bluechipjust a matter of making it look good
01:28:40midknight2k3it doesnt matter
01:28:47Bluechipno, you're probably right
01:30:28 Quit _aLF ("bye")
01:31:19BluechipIf I ever suss out how to create a new font, I may make a release of the code, but I have already been told that it will not be included without font and language support
01:31:51midknight2k3awwwwwww
01:32:30Bluechipthat's fair, they need to maintain control ovr the project and it's style, i can undertand that
01:32:52midknight2k3do we have languages for the calendar?
01:32:54Bluechiphope they allow dwhino's GUI - that is truly awesome
01:33:00midknight2k3the icons?
01:33:02Bluechipdunno - don't use it
01:33:05Bluechipyes
01:33:13midknight2k3is it further than before?
01:33:21Bluechip<shrugs>
01:33:52midknight2k3just inconned main menu?
01:33:55midknight2k3or is there more to it now?
01:33:57Bluechiponly ever saw one vrsion and that beta was still crashing loads
01:34:06Bluechipjust main iirc
01:41:55Bluechipdo you know of any current bugs with rockbox ...just put on today's build and wondered if there were any surprises in store
01:42:32midknight2k3not really
01:42:34midknight2k3no major
01:42:38Bluechipcheers
01:42:46Bluechiphey, mk, did you fix the problems in the released clock code?
01:43:13midknight2k3not yet
01:43:53Bluechip:(
01:44:23midknight2k3will soon sorry
01:44:28midknight2k3got a few more things to fix too
01:45:45Bluechipdid you ever see the mae stuff running?
01:45:48Bluechipmaze
01:46:02midknight2k3yes its very coool! i even beat it
01:46:12BluechipYOU FINISHED ONE!?
01:46:24midknight2k3yeah!
01:46:24BluechipWITHOUT asking for the solution?
01:46:28midknight2k3no
01:46:30Bluechipah
01:46:33midknight2k3i used the footstep trail
01:46:34midknight2k3it was hare
01:46:36midknight2k3hard
01:46:42midknight2k3it took like 500 button pressed
01:46:44BluechipIt's set to "massive"
01:46:44midknight2k3presses
01:46:55Bluechipneeds some ideas to improve it
01:47:04Bluechipsmaller mazes i guess is a good start
01:47:12midknight2k3yes.
01:47:14midknight2k3its neat
01:47:19Bluechipwas thinking of using mp3 files to supply the random numbers
01:47:26midknight2k3whats the crap on boot? its like 4 corners or something?
01:47:38Bluechipit one sprite show in four rotations
01:47:38midknight2k3try the rtc. thats random
01:47:53Bluechipso you could "play against" an mp3 file
01:48:12midknight2k3odd
01:48:14midknight2k3OH
01:48:17midknight2k3i know what you can do
01:48:18midknight2k3do it
01:48:31Bluechipwant to do things like "find the map"
01:48:34Bluechip"beat the baddie"
01:48:40Bluechip"do the task"
01:48:47midknight2k3music quiz, where it plays back 5 seconds of a random song at a random time and you have a list of 5 songs to pick from, and if you get it right you score a point
01:48:50Bluechip"find the key"
01:48:55midknight2k3yeah
01:48:57midknight2k3that sounds cool
01:48:58Bluechipoh yess, me likey :)
01:49:38Bluechipthat's an awesome idea
01:49:40Bluechip:)
01:50:08midknight2k3its on ipods
01:50:14midknight2k3it just sounds fun
01:50:27Bluechipoh :( I thought it was your idea
01:50:48Bluechiponly take a short time to write it
01:50:50midknight2k3i wish
01:50:55midknight2k3i cant
01:51:00midknight2k3the etch is calling
01:51:17 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection)
01:51:17Bluechipdude, that's like 10 lines of code!?
01:51:51midknight2k3yes
01:51:54midknight2k3but it needs features
01:52:02midknight2k3like, move cursor instead of constant drawing
01:52:06midknight2k3then its 20 lines
01:52:15Bluechipgarbage
01:52:42Bluechipjust prefix "plot" with "if (draw)"
01:53:12midknight2k3i dont use plot
01:53:16midknight2k3thats the problem
01:53:25Bluechipdrawpixel or whatever it's called
01:53:32midknight2k3i did that too
01:53:35midknight2k3it doesnt save it
01:53:36Bluechipthen you are doing it the hard way!
01:53:37midknight2k3or something
01:53:41midknight2k3i am
01:53:44midknight2k3can you teach me easy way
01:53:48midknight2k3:)
01:54:13Bluechipwhat do you need to know?
01:54:22Bluechipkeep an x & y coord
01:54:28Bluechipinc/dec according to presses
01:54:34midknight2k3yes
01:54:43Bluechipkeep an on/off bool
01:54:48midknight2k3well i need to start over i guess
01:54:49Bluechiptoggle with f1
01:54:50midknight2k3i dont save it
01:55:05Bluechipif (toggle==on) plot
01:55:05trackbluechip i just flashed my box
01:55:14Bluechip%*^*$*$*&
01:55:17*Bluechip envy
01:55:23Bluechipi dont have falsh :(
01:55:28Bluechiplol
01:55:35midknight2k3he didnt flash
01:55:36midknight2k3he lies
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01:55:52Bluechipwell, i fell for that one - don't I look stupid now!
01:55:53midknight2k3LOL did track says he flashed
01:56:19trackmid thats why im sending u that video clip to prove it
01:56:20diddystar5BC!!!!!!!!
01:56:26Bluechipdiddeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :)))
01:56:29midknight2k3ok track
01:57:15trackits an .avi file
01:58:34 Quit mecraw_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)")
01:59:10tracki did flash mid
01:59:14tracku see when u get the clip
01:59:21midknight2k3OK TRACK
01:59:26midknight2k3if its a fake clip thats it
01:59:33trackhow can it be fake?!
01:59:43midknight2k3we'll see
01:59:48midknight2k3if you're lying then
01:59:50midknight2k3let's say that
02:00
02:01:19Bluechipmk, do I take it you're not interested now?
02:02:11midknight2k3i am,!
02:04:20midknight2k3hey wow
02:04:22midknight2k3no way
02:06:02trackdid u get the clip?
02:08:32Bluechiphow many lines of code before logbot gets mad?
02:08:54midknight2k3none
02:08:56midknight2k3he cant do crap
02:09:10midknight2k3but 4 is his boiling point when he's opped
02:09:18midknight2k3IRC only allows like 15-20
02:10:08Bluechipnone of the mirc restrictions here - i run a proper client ;)
02:11:45midknight2k3really?
02:12:32diddystar5bye
02:12:40Bluechiplol -
02:12:47Bluechipok - bye
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04:17:39midknight2k3SCOTT
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11:14:54Cosmo`im sure this XClef is fault
11:14:56Cosmo`faulty*
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11:47:15Cosmo`MT>
11:47:18Cosmo`MT?*
11:47:31webmindmt! ?
11:47:37Cosmo`MT!!?!?!?!
11:48:06Cosmo`just wanted to talk to MT :P
11:48:37webmindah ok
11:48:41webmindwell
11:48:43webmindapearently
11:48:45webmindhe aint here
11:48:45Cosmo`lol
11:48:51Cosmo`looks that way heh
11:48:54webmindyes
11:49:13Cosmo`i'll have to settle for you instead webmind :P
11:49:26webminduhm.. damn.. -runs off-
11:49:33Cosmo`:P
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11:55:20track_u still not going on about that xlef?
11:55:35 Nick track_ is now known as track (~74d57721@ACBEE17A.ipt.aol.com)
11:56:21Cosmo`lol heh
11:56:28Cosmo`just repackaged it and applied for a return
11:59:19trackZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
11:59:19tracklol
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12:00:25Cosmo`heh
12:00:29Cosmo`i was gonna ask ...
12:00:36Cosmo`got any reccomendations of what i should get instead?
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12:05:03trackHi Linus!!!!!!!!!!!
12:05:09LinusNhi
12:05:09trackI flashed my box last night! ;-)
12:05:14LinusNwooo
12:05:20webmindplayer or recorder ?
12:05:23trackrecorder
12:05:31trackman, the boot up speed is fast
12:05:32track;-)
12:05:44webminddamn
12:05:51trackHas Adiamas left? He hasnt' been around for yonks
12:05:54webmindwhy doesnt anyone have a player anymore ?
12:06:06LinusNbecause they suck?
12:06:16webmindfeels like hardly anyone develops for it ?
12:06:22LinusNtrue
12:06:29webmindLinusN, that's lovely.. but i have one.. and can't afford a new archos
12:06:45LinusNwebmind: why don't you develop for it then?
12:07:06webmindcos i'm not that good at C or have the time for it ?
12:07:30webmindit would require me to first learn C and then get into the archos source..
12:07:48Cosmo`bbl
12:07:49 Quit Cosmo` ("(13:31:38) (@Sticky_Vickie) i like a drink tho")
12:08:05LinusNthe sad part is that only the ones who really use the player can keep rockbox running on it
12:08:29webmindhow do you mean ?
12:08:33LinusNi mean, only a player user can notice if , for instance, the playlist editor is usable or not
12:08:44webmindindeed
12:08:45LinusNon the player
12:09:01trackLinus could you physically swop the Player's LCD for the Recorders?
12:09:09tracki mean 2x11 character cells is pretty useless
12:09:09webmindand i've got the problem that i can't seem to replicate my problems
12:09:10LinusNall we can do is to try to make it work on the player and then await response from the users
12:09:28LinusNtrack: yes and no
12:09:32track?
12:09:39webmindtrack, not really.. it works.. just less good
12:09:41LinusNregarding replacing the lcd
12:09:50trackok
12:10:01webmindhow is that? yes and now ?
12:10:17LinusNit is possible to replace the lcd, but it requires quite some work to fit it
12:10:32LinusNthe backlight is a prob though
12:10:36webmindwhy ?
12:10:37trackim off cu guys
12:10:41webmindbye track
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12:10:47LinusNit works differently on the two models
12:10:50webmindhow much would a display cost btw ?
12:13:19LinusNnot sure, but i guess about $30
12:13:50webmindhmm
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15:02:55egzeany1 tried to flash u'r archos ?
15:05:15webmindyeah
15:05:17webmindjust not me
15:05:54egzecause i got some probs with my flashed one
15:06:14webmindah
15:06:15webmindlike ?
15:06:37egzeif i update ajbrec.ajz it always boots the old one
15:08:42egzeif i 'play' it it loads ok but not at start...
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17:24:40diddystar5bye everyone
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17:46:11Cosmo`MT m8
17:47:02MThi
17:47:33Cosmo`i returned that XClef
17:47:36Cosmo`sent it off today
17:48:02Cosmo`sadly most other players are over my budget :(
17:49:31MTwhat did they say about it?
17:49:44Cosmo`i just asked if i could have a return because i was unhappy with the product
17:49:45MTquality wise
17:49:47Cosmo`they said that was ok
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18:02:40Cosmo`bah
18:02:44Cosmo`i cant afford one now :/
18:03:43Cosmo`i think its gonna have to be eBay
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18:46:47zsqarewhat is the API pointer?
18:47:06diddystar5for plugins?
18:47:09zsqareyeah
18:47:52diddystar5rb->, for an example see /apps/plugins/helloword.c it will help you understand it
18:48:01zsqarebut i did
18:48:41zsqarenm
18:48:44zsqarei get it now
18:49:22diddystar5:)
18:49:28diddystar5what are you working on?
18:50:19zsqareblack jack
18:50:26diddystar5for the recorders?
18:50:30zsqareplayer
18:50:33diddystar5ohh
18:50:47zsqareits gonna be tricky
18:50:50diddystar5while your at it, how about a card game for the recorder :)
18:51:00zsqarebut i figure i can put your cards on the upper line
18:51:08zsqareand the comps cards on the bottom line
18:51:18diddystar5ok
18:51:21diddystar5ill be back
18:51:21zsqareusing ascii characters and numbers
18:51:25diddystar5sounds cool :)
18:51:29diddystar5bye
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20:01:26Cosmo`haha !
20:01:29Cosmo`MT m8
20:01:40Cosmo`just got myself a nice bargain, found an erroneously priced Zen Xtra on the web
20:02:09MThow erroneously priced
20:02:14MTand are you mad?!
20:02:23Cosmo`as in
20:02:25Cosmo`£135
20:02:33MTlinkage!
20:02:36Cosmo`well
20:02:39Cosmo`thats exc Vat
20:02:44Cosmo`its still about £170 inc vat though
20:02:54MT£158
20:02:55Cosmo`but thats better than £235 heh
20:03:22Cosmo`MP3-CRE-JZ-XTRA Creative Jukebox Zen Xtra 30GB 2 139.00 163.33
20:03:38Cosmo`fkin
20:03:42Cosmo`my maths is poor
20:03:49MTthey are diddling you out of .5p
20:04:04Cosmo`oh no :P
20:04:11Cosmo`well, it was £170 or so with delivery
20:04:13MTwho is that from?
20:04:22Cosmo`well, dont go telling everyone because there is 2 in stock
20:04:35Cosmo`i think when i ordered mine it must have deducted one, as there was 3 a moment ago heh
20:04:42MT/notice me with it, and i wont tell a soul
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20:30:50_Alcyone_... test
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20:42:25elinenbeCosmo`: from where?
20:42:31Cosmo`arai
20:42:33Cosmo`aria
20:42:36Cosmo`there is 1 left lol
20:46:11trackhi didystar
20:46:38diddystar5hey track
20:47:18trackI flashed my box yesterday
20:52:02elinenbewhat is the URL?
20:56:12_Alcyone_does anyone know if the display in a jukebox recorder is a generic or custom part/
20:56:15_Alcyone_?
20:58:12diddystar5i think its a samsung display
20:58:16diddystar5not reallyt sure
20:58:57_Alcyone_well, I'll stick around, who knows, someone else might know it.
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21:03:51Cosmo`www.aria.co.uk
21:04:11Cosmo`in products
21:04:13Cosmo`then MP3 Players
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21:19:12zsqareanyone on?
21:19:18zsqareor listening?
21:19:55zsqarehere's my Q, can you get plugins to scroll?
21:20:07zsqareis it a function that can be used anywhere?
21:20:07trackHi Zagor ;-)
21:20:20zsqarethere's no reason for it not to right?
21:21:08Zagorzsqare: lcd_puts_scroll()
21:21:31zsqareand what goes in the parameters?
21:22:27Zagorsee apps/plugin.h
21:22:40zsqareok
21:24:30trackI flashed my box yesterday Zagor
21:25:24Zagornice, isn't it
21:25:45trackyea, Im very impressed with the bootup speed
21:26:02trackDoes flashing the box leave more space in the MP3 buffer?
21:26:34Zagornot yet. [idc]dragon is working on that though.
21:26:42trackoh right
21:28:22zsqareis 8mb still the limit on how much memory you can have?
21:28:39trackTo flash to the latest versions, I just download the latest builds, and click on the .ucl file?
21:29:10Zagorzsqare: no, that's just how much anyone has put in it.
21:29:39Zagortrack: yes. you should grab the whole zip, though. the plugin api changes once in a while.
21:30:42trackoh right, so I download the latest zip, put everything on the archos and click on the ucl?
21:31:05Zagoryeah
21:32:31trackcool
21:32:37trackdidn't know it was that easy
21:32:38track;-)
21:36:24trackHow many times can the eeprom be flashed before it wears out?
21:37:57Zagorsomething like 100.000 times
21:38:08trackoh
21:38:32trackbut I am impressed with the fast boot-up time
21:38:44Zagoryeah, it's nice
21:40:13trackCould you "un-flash" it just incase u needed to return the box to Archos for some reason?
21:41:21Zagorthat would probably be wise, yeah
21:41:56tracksince if u bought a new box and flashed it, it would void the warrenty
21:44:06Zagorthat's not certain
21:45:44trackwell if u send a flashed box to Archos they would say"Your warrenty is now voird"
21:46:28Zagorit's not their decision. there are laws controlling warranty.
21:46:45Zagorat least in europe
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21:46:50trackoh ok
21:46:54trackdidn't know that
21:50:55zsqareumm.... most everything in c++ is the same in c right?
21:53:49Zagorno. c++ is an extension of c.
21:55:52zsqarei realize that
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21:55:55zsqarebut all in all
21:56:02zsqareclass structures are the same
21:56:13zsqareif statements are the same
21:56:31zsqaresimple stuff like that
21:58:26Zagoryeah, except c doesn't have classes. only structs.
21:58:34zsqare:(
21:58:37zsqarenooooooooo
21:59:39Zagorthat's a good thing
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22:03:56zsqarei need a new book
22:04:07zsqarei should toss this C++ book
22:04:12zsqareand get a new C book
22:04:17zsqareat least, for this project
22:06:04Zagoryeah :)
22:06:27trackAre the "Superbass" modes arriving soon?
22:08:01Zagorwho's writing that?
22:08:24tracklinusN mentioned a few times
22:08:29tracksomething the MAS has built-in
22:10:30Zagoryeah, but is anyone *writing* that code? things don't just appear just because they are possible.
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22:11:25diddystar5Zagor!!
22:11:38Zagorhi
22:11:54Zagornice
22:12:27diddystar5Zagor: will you add the new vu meter?
22:12:39Zagoris it in the patch tracker?
22:12:51diddystar5no
22:13:01Zagorsubmit it, so we don't lose it
22:13:19zsqarei'm working on blackjack
22:13:21MTto go back to an older discussion, when I returned my fmr, I did reflash to the original archos firmware, but even if I hadnt, I dont see how they could have claimed that flashing a less buggy firmware lead to the headphone solders breaking :)
22:13:35zsqareif i ever get past these bumps
22:13:38ZagorMT: exactly
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22:20:23ZagorBagder: i'm getting the neo tomorrow
22:20:46Bagderwop
22:20:48trackHi Bagder
22:20:49track:)
22:20:50Bagderwoo even
22:21:12[IDC]DragonHi everybody
22:22:22trackhi dragon
22:22:42[IDC]Dragontrack alert!
22:22:52Bagder /ignore track!*@*aol.com all quiet
22:22:56Bagderoops :-)
22:23:02[IDC]Dragonare you _the_ track?
22:23:06hardeepI've heard a lot of good things about the PhatBox as a car mp3 player
22:23:40tracku ignoring me bagder (again) :-(
22:23:44[IDC]Dragonmy Archos plugs into my car since yesterday
22:24:07Zagornice
22:24:36[IDC]Dragonno control yet, just a dry running CD changer emulation as a plugin
22:25:06[IDC]DragonI'd need something like a "control plugin"
22:25:57Zagorhardeep: yeah, it interfaces with many head units
22:26:25[IDC]Dragonright now it's very uncomfortable, I have to set my music, then start the plugin
22:27:36Zagoryeah, our plugins aren't designed for that :)
22:28:13[IDC]DragonI can't think of a good solution so far.
22:28:30[IDC]Dragonsoftware-wise, I mean.
22:28:45[IDC]Dragonfrom the bevaviour, I can
22:28:49diddystar5im having a problem
22:28:54diddystar5can you help [IDC]Dragon?
22:28:59trackwhats up diddy?
22:29:10[IDC]Dragonyou need to tell first
22:30:06[IDC]DragonZagor: it should detect that it's in the car, load a different cfg, be remote controllable
22:30:11diddystar5well i made a "fake" vu meter for the sim (uses rand values) so icould test (my archos is dead atm), and it wont switch betwene log and linear scales
22:30:30diddystar5it always uses logarithmic
22:30:39diddystar5i dont see a thing wrong with the code
22:30:45Zagor[IDC]Dragon: yeah, pretty big change. and pretty special case... :-)
22:31:45trackmidknight did some good additions to vu meter
22:31:59[IDC]Dragonnot too special, there are other mens of control: friends are working on VW changer emu, infrared remote, handspring keyboards, etc.
22:32:07[IDC]Dragonmens= means
22:32:12diddystar5track: yes i know ihave them
22:32:38track;-)
22:33:37trackwho started the flash idea in the first place?
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22:35:13[IDC]DragonAhem, I did.
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22:35:47trackreally?
22:37:31trackive been on my best behaviour ever since been booted out of jirc
22:37:34track;-)
22:39:29tracktoo much snow outside
22:42:40tracki need someone to teach me the cygwin or gnush compiler
22:42:54diddystar5ok
22:43:26Cosmo`i need my ears syringed :/
22:43:35Cosmo`i think :P
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22:47:44oggiethefroggieanybody fancy helping me out? i just killed my archos...
22:52:32diddystar5maybe
22:52:36diddystar5how did you do it?
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23:00:56oggiethefroggieok, so ive always had archo, with rockbox, just upgraded the hard drive
23:01:07oggiethefroggiehad the studio 6000 b4, and wanted a recorder
23:01:23oggiethefroggieso bought one yesterday, the fm recorder v2 version
23:01:33oggiethefroggieupgraded the hdd, and now its dead
23:01:47oggiethefroggieocasionally makes weird flashing lights and sueeling sound...
23:01:50MThandy with a soldering iron?
23:01:57oggiethefroggieyupyup
23:02:23MTyou have to make sure that all those solder points where you detach the board from the chassis are properly making contact
23:02:27MTsome of them are electrical
23:02:58oggiethefroggieone of them was a bit odd when i bought it but it worked
23:03:05oggiethefroggiethe one on the bottom left
23:04:03MTdid you dremel them or desolder them?
23:04:21oggiethefroggietwo just came off the rest i heated
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23:06:18oggiethefroggiedoes it sound like an electrical problem?
23:06:42diddystar5does to me
23:07:44oggiethefroggieok, ill go clean up all the contacts to the casing
23:12:04diddystar5bye everyone
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23:13:11trackwhen is midknight coming in?
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23:15:25*scott666 needs a new HD for his archos
23:16:53trackcould be cheaper to buy a new archos rather than a hd
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23:17:58scott666new = bigger
23:18:13Bagderhi matsl
23:18:23tracki don't think xp lets u format drives bigger than 40gb as fat32
23:18:28trackonly ntfs
23:18:28scott66660 or 80gb
23:18:38trackany size above 40 gb
23:18:39scott666i have a win98 box
23:19:00trackshould be ok then
23:19:04scott666and im pretty sure theres tools for xp that let you format > 32gb fat32 anyway
23:19:19tracktheres partition magic I think
23:19:22MTits called linux
23:19:27matslBagder: hi
23:19:32scott666that too
23:19:38trackhi matsl
23:19:47scott666ive been meaning to make my win98 box a linux box...
23:20:14trackI tried knoppix once
23:20:18MTwell you could use almost any linux boot disk, as long as it had support for usb mass storage
23:20:20tracksince it can be booted from a cd-r
23:20:33scott666yeah
23:20:35tracktook me ages to download that 700mb iso file
23:20:41trackeven on a 1mb adsl connection
23:21:40trackI wish there was a way you can change the boot-screen in rockbox
23:21:46trackput your own name or message there
23:21:51trackor graphic design
23:22:05MTan entire hour and a half track?
23:22:14tracksomething like that on a 1mb link
23:22:32trackgod knows how long it would take on dial-up
23:22:32MTheh
23:22:44MTbetween a day and 2 days
23:22:46tracklol
23:22:49MTis how long it takes me
23:22:54trackif the connection will hold out for that long
23:23:03trackI want to change the boot-screen on my box
23:23:18MTso, use bmp2rb
23:23:31trackwhat?
23:23:36trackwhats bmp2rb?
23:23:49MTbitmap to rockbox
23:23:52trackok
23:24:05trackMy box looks better with the blue front panel removed
23:24:09trackI have a pic of it here
23:26:13trackIn the photos page who are those 2 building the house of cards out of the jukeboxes?
23:26:55trackone wiv the glasses one wiv the black tshirt
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23:32:06trackZagor u there?
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