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#rockbox log for 2004-02-12

00:00:02moormasterDeshalb hab ich ja nen Downloadmanager genommen
00:00:26Freddas kannt ich da noch gar net ^^
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00:00:49moormasterwar so ziemlich das erste, was ich mir gehohlt hatte, nachdem ich Internet hatte ;)
00:01:26Fredich wusst net, wie man die ueber proxy einrichtet
00:01:35moormasterhatte ich ja nich ;)
00:02:05Fredich hasse diesen proxy... kann ich net mal mit zoggn
00:02:27moormasterkommst du da nich drumrum, dass du direkt am DSL Modem hängst?
00:02:40moormasterbzw. kann man da keine Ports freigeben?
00:03:30Fredkann man schon aber da is linux drauf, mein vater hat pw fuer linux und fuer dsl-modem und der gibt das net frei weil ich angeblich zu viel vorm pc haenge
00:03:45Freddas hab ich jetz davon dass ich so nen pc-freak als vater hab ^^
00:03:54moormaster;)
00:04:20moormastergut, dass ich ein eigenes Modem habe und hatte und einfach nur zur nächsten Telefondose gehen musste ;)
00:04:39Freddafuer bezahl ich keinen cent
00:04:50moormasterna gut, hat auch Vorteile
00:05:22Fredso ich muss jetz leider sons gibt's stress mit eltern, vieleicht sehn wir uns morgen ja nochma
00:05:29moormasterk cu
00:05:38Fredcya
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00:48:41midknight2k3hi all
00:50:44pfavrhi
00:51:14midknight2k3hi pfavr, are you using cygwin?
00:51:55pfavryes, but not for rockbox
00:53:33midknight2k3any idea why all of a sudden it would say "The procedure entry point putc_unlocked could not be located in the dynamic link library cygwin1.dll"?
00:54:01pfavrhave you updated cygwin without rebooting?
00:54:13midknight2k3no, it just happened last night
00:54:17midknight2k3i'm going to reinstall it
00:54:19midknight2k3and try agian
00:54:21midknight2k3again*
00:54:39pfavrdid you install from the rockbox zip or from cygwin.com?
00:56:09midknight2k3cygwin.com full
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00:59:02pfavrok
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01:00:04pfavrI recommend that you reboot _before_ upgrading and don't start any cygwin related things beforehand. I once experienced problems while upgrading because the installation program used some tools which were linked with the new version of the cygwin1.dll and the old was still in memory
01:00:43midknight2k3yeah i had trouble last time when i went to uninstall it when I was running it beforehand - complete hell
01:00:44midknight2k3thanks
01:01:03pfavrnp - it is a nasty thing when you don't know it
01:01:16midknight2k3yeah
01:01:31pfavrthink the setup.exe should sort of unload the .dll before running the installation...
01:02:11midknight2k3maybe i can trick it by unloading it with the setup and then going for the delete button :D
01:03:29pfavrwell, what I meant to say was that this unload dll feature should be added to the setup.exe... I don't think it is there yet
01:03:38midknight2k3ohh
01:03:43midknight2k3:) yes but its possible
01:03:54pfavrbut I think it is pretty simple for you to just run the setup.exe again
01:04:00pfavrno need for uninstalling first
01:04:14midknight2k3well nuking the cygwin folder
01:04:29pfavryou could just manually (I know it is a tedious task) select "reinstall" in the window where you select packages
01:04:39pfavrno, just leave the cygwin folder in place
01:04:46pfavr(I think it will work)
01:04:49midknight2k3i'm taking it out
01:11:45midknight2k3I HATE CYGWIN
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01:44:40midknight2k3are we allowed to steal rockbox code?
01:46:35pfavrwhat do you mean by "steal"?
01:47:47midknight2k3as in take and use
01:47:53midknight2k3:)
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01:52:04NateDogHi..is there anyplace I can get version 2.0? I don't see it anywhere on the official site
01:52:47midknight2k3why would you want 2.0?
01:53:35NateDogit's been acting up since I upgraded...play keeps stopping when there's plenty of battery left
01:53:45NateDogperiodically
01:53:57midknight2k3tried a daily build?
01:54:33NateDognope...think that would help?
01:54:53midknight2k3it may
01:55:10pfavrmidknight2k3: I think rockbox is GPL - if it is you can use the code as you wish. Only one requirement: you can not give it away in binary form without providing the source code as well.
01:55:38midknight2k3oh, yeah just for another open source project
01:55:42midknight2k3may/may not use
01:56:11pfavrLook in a source file - if it is GPL you can use it - as long as you give away the source also
01:56:34midknight2k3yessir
01:56:36pfavryou may even charge money for it - as long as you put the source with the code
01:56:43midknight2k3lol yay
01:57:02pfavrbut check to see if it is GPL
01:57:15NateDogbut you no of no place that has the old version 2.0?
01:57:30midknight2k3NateDog: yes, i know where you can get it. i recommend a daily instead though
01:58:31NateDogoh alright...I'll try the daily ;)
01:58:45midknight2k3yay
01:58:46midknight2k3i win
01:58:49midknight2k3:D
01:59:06pfavr2.1 works perfect on my JBR20
01:59:17NateDogbut if it doesn't work, I shall be back!
01:59:21midknight2k3ok NateDog
01:59:23midknight2k3good luck
01:59:31NateDoglata
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04:36:40dustinafni have a question on using the patches. the documentation on the site is unclear to me...
04:38:44dustinafnto what file would a .diff patchfile typically be applied? to ajbrec.ajz (for recorder)?
04:38:53dustinafnor do i have to download the source code and a compiler?
04:44:06dustinafnhmmm
04:45:48Hadaka.diff files are patches to the sourcecode
04:46:17Hadakaso, if you want to get an ajbrec.ajz out of that, you will also need a compiler
04:46:24HadakaI believe there were a few places where you could get a 'precompiled' rockbox with some patches
04:46:51Hadakabut, I don't really know, since I haven't dwelved on them lately
04:47:04HadakaHTH, good nite
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05:10:58dustinafnhow do I know what file to use a patch on? for example, once i have the rockbox source code, to what file would i apply the play_button.diff patch?
05:11:35midknight2k3uh
05:11:45midknight2k3you dont apply it to something
05:11:46midknight2k3you Run it
05:11:50midknight2k3with the patch utils
05:12:13dustinafnyou dont specify a destination file?
05:12:25midknight2k3when it prompts you do
05:12:52dustinafnwhen I do patch play_button.diff i get an error
05:13:00dustinafnas in, bad file descriptor
05:13:09midknight2k3whta did you put in BASH?
05:13:18dustinafnuh oh
05:13:42dustinafni didn't really
05:13:49midknight2k3er
05:13:51midknight2k3how did you run it?
05:14:00dustinafnum, in a dos box
05:14:16midknight2k3get a compilation envrionment
05:14:19midknight2k3it's at the docs page
05:14:25midknight2k3"setting upa minimal win32 sdk"
05:16:11dustinafnso that'd be the simplest way to get a new ajbrec.ajz file with this patch? i have to go through that whole procedure?
05:17:52dustinafnnot that i can't, but that seems like quite a lot of work just to get this one little patch installed :)
05:18:14midknight2k3hm
05:18:15midknight2k3which is it?
05:18:33dustinafnplay_button.diff
05:18:38midknight2k3meaning?
05:18:47midknight2k3ohh
05:18:51midknight2k3hm
05:18:57dustinafnto allow to play button to easily queue
05:19:04midknight2k3hm
05:19:11dustinafnthe process now takes forever, holding down two buttons and such
05:19:22midknight2k3well yeah thats the easiest way - my dev environemt just broke
05:19:33dustinafnseems funny that both the play and right buttons do the same thing...one of them could easily be made to queue
05:19:42midknight2k3not good idez
05:19:44midknight2k3idea
05:19:44midknight2k38
05:19:46dustinafnno?
05:19:53midknight2k3i typically use both
05:20:56dustinafni guess i'll just deal with it for now, that gets a bit advanced for me :)
05:21:01dustinafnthanks though
05:21:05midknight2k3its pretty simple
05:21:09midknight2k3i can help if you want
05:21:29dustinafnok
05:21:36dustinafnwell, the rockbox-sdk_win32.tar.bz2 file, i dont even know what to do with it
05:21:41dustinafnhow to unpack
05:21:43midknight2k3just try, if there are problems, ask
05:21:49midknight2k3read the instructions! :)
05:22:16dustinafnah, you're right. let me give it a go
05:22:24midknight2k3ok
05:23:29dustinafndoes it matter which version of a rockbox a patch is used on, out of curiosity? are they all for the stable build only?
05:23:55midknight2k3typically best to apply it to the date of the build it was intended for / used with
05:24:04dustinafnI see
05:25:44dustinafnwell i have a BASH prompt :)
05:25:54midknight2k3yay
05:26:01midknight2k3ok now read "how to work with patches"
05:26:06midknight2k3get "patch" and "diff"
05:26:11midknight2k3and read the section on applying
05:28:00dustinafni can skip sections 9 and on at http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/win32-sdk.html ?
05:31:20midknight2k3sec
05:31:33dustinafnok
05:31:41midknight2k3you may want to build first
05:31:53dustinafnmeaning? :)
05:32:04midknight2k3go ahead and do them if youve got time
05:32:13dustinafnok
05:32:14midknight2k3i speak cryptic :D
05:33:40dustinafnbuild a normal version with 2MB ram I'm guessing?
05:33:49midknight2k3yeah
05:34:05dustinafngoin well so far :)
05:34:08midknight2k3yay
05:34:15midknight2k3quick learner
05:37:17dustinafnthe rockbox-tools.tar file, how do I unpack it to the tools directory? where is this dir?
05:37:29midknight2k3it's in home/rockbox/tools
05:37:35midknight2k3if you did rb-checkout.sh
05:37:42midknight2k3its been months since that worked right for me
05:38:11dustinafnwhat is rb-checkout
05:38:18midknight2k3how did you get your source?
05:38:22midknight2k3downloaded from rockbox site?
05:38:56dustinafnyes
05:39:07midknight2k3ok its in home/rockbox/tools
05:39:12midknight2k3if you unzipped it the right place
05:40:05dustinafnah ok
05:41:12dustinafndid, that, did make
05:41:26dustinafnall kindsa stuff is happening now :)
05:41:26midknight2k3ok tell me when its done or if it errors out
05:41:28midknight2k3yay
05:41:30midknight2k3thats good
05:41:47dustinafndone
05:41:51dustinafnno errors
05:42:16dustinafnthough i'm not sure what i just did hehe
05:42:18midknight2k3ok good
05:42:22midknight2k3:) it made itself
05:42:24midknight2k3ok now
05:43:07midknight2k3thats todays build. congrats, that's how its done (for us windows users at least)
05:43:10midknight2k3now for the patch
05:43:14midknight2k3did you install diff and patch?
05:43:22dustinafnyes i did
05:43:32midknight2k3ok
05:43:38midknight2k3then do
05:43:44midknight2k3patchname.diff > patch
05:43:46midknight2k3i believe
05:44:12dustinafnisn't it the other way, patch > patchname.diff
05:44:13dustinafn?
05:44:29midknight2k3perhaps
05:44:33midknight2k3i'm rusty on that business
05:44:37dustinafnwhere should the patch file be located?
05:44:37midknight2k3i do my own stuff :0
05:44:42dustinafnah!
05:44:47midknight2k3in your home/rockbox dir
05:44:59dustinafnand i do the command from the BASH prompt?
05:45:11midknight2k3yes. do cd .. if youre in builddir
05:45:17midknight2k3so you're in the same place
05:46:58dustinafnok, something is not quite right, it just pauses/freezes when I do that command
05:47:19midknight2k3hm
05:47:20midknight2k3sec
05:47:43midknight2k3close BASH
05:47:46midknight2k3then start it again
05:48:01midknight2k3make sure the patch is in c:\cygwin\home\rockbox\patch.diff
05:48:48dustinafnit is, as is patch.exe and the .dll files that go with it
05:48:57midknight2k3uh
05:48:59midknight2k3lol
05:49:00midknight2k3no
05:49:02midknight2k3you install the exe
05:49:11dustinafnwell, i did
05:49:16midknight2k3then delete it
05:49:17dustinafni should perhaps reinstall it now though
05:49:19midknight2k3and the dlls
05:49:29midknight2k3if you wish
05:49:59dustinafnit's the version for windows that i want to download and install, correct?
05:50:06midknight2k3yeh
05:50:24dustinafnprogram files dir is fine for it?
05:50:29midknight2k3yeh
05:50:56dustinafni don't get how it would be recognized at the BASH prompt in that case
05:51:00dustinafnbut maybe i'm thinking too much
05:51:12midknight2k3yeah LOL
05:55:48dustinafnhmm, minor problem
05:56:00midknight2k3uhoh
05:56:10dustinafndeleted the .diff file cause somehow it got erase...0 bytes
05:56:18midknight2k3lol ok
05:56:21midknight2k3redownlaod it
05:56:21dustinafntryin to redownload but it only comes up as a text file in IE
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05:56:29dustinafnas in, i cant save it properly
05:56:44dustinafnuse firebird, thats one option
05:56:46dustinafnlets try
05:56:49midknight2k3er
05:56:50midknight2k3its just
05:56:53midknight2k3save as type: all files
05:58:25dustinafngot it
05:58:31midknight2k3yayp
05:59:29dustinafnso i did patch > play_button.diff and it just sits there
05:59:34midknight2k3its
05:59:38midknight2k3patch < play_button.diff
05:59:40midknight2k3HEEEEh
05:59:41midknight2k3patch < patchfile
05:59:44dustinafnOH
05:59:47midknight2k3heeha
05:59:49dustinafnand I literally put the <
05:59:49midknight2k3:)
05:59:53dustinafnthat character?
05:59:56midknight2k3yeah
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06:00:01midknight2k3patch < [patchfile]
06:02:10dustinafnwell, it did something, not what i expected
06:02:21dustinafncan't find file to patch at input line 3
06:02:51dustinafnperhaps you should have used the -p or −−strip option?
06:02:52dustinafnit says
06:03:06dustinafnthen asks for file to patch:
06:03:27midknight2k3yeah
06:03:29midknight2k3what does it want
06:03:32midknight2k3it asks for a file
06:03:35midknight2k3then just re specify it
06:03:36dustinafnenglish.lang
06:03:39midknight2k3ok
06:03:39dustinafnapparently there are two
06:03:40midknight2k3then its
06:03:41midknight2k3c"\
06:03:42DBUGEnqueued KICK midknight2k3
06:03:42midknight2k3no
06:03:42midknight2k3its
06:03:50midknight2k3c:\cygwin\home\rockbox\apps\lang\english.lang
06:03:52midknight2k3tell it that
06:03:55midknight2k3and no copying or pasting
06:03:58midknight2k3or it gets mad
06:04:36dustinafnsame thing for settings.c
06:04:47dustinafnsays one in orig/apps and one in dev/apps
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06:05:22dustinafnnow i'm stuck
06:06:04scott666hell be back
06:06:15dustinafnoh, netsplit eh
06:06:30scott666dunno, but hes still on msn, so hes stll around
06:06:39scott666brb
06:06:41dustinafnthank you
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06:09:58midk2k3woo
06:09:58midk2k3sorrt'
06:10:02midk2k3jeeshus
06:10:15dustinafnhehe
06:10:20dustinafnyoure back! :)
06:10:33midk2k3crazy
06:10:33midk2k3anyways
06:10:33midk2k3yeah
06:10:43dustinafnso it gave lotsa errors about hunks failing
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06:10:48midk2k3hmm
06:11:40dustinafnfor all those files there was one in orig/apps and one in dev/apps, but i typed c:\cygwin\home\rockbox\apps\[file]
06:12:04midk2k3if thats what it wanted
06:13:33dustinafnhmmmm
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06:17:05dustinafnperhaps i'm patching the wrong version, and that's why the errors?
06:18:10midk2k3what were the files it wanted?
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06:19:09midk2k3ha
06:19:10midk2k3haha
06:20:15dustinafnenglish.lang, settings.c, settings.h, settings_menu.c
06:20:24midk2k3hmm
06:20:33midk2k3you could apply it manually...
06:20:56dustinafnand tree.c
06:20:56dustinafnhow so?
06:21:12midk2k3by opening the source files in notepad and adding in the lines manually
06:21:40dustinafnoh my
06:21:45dustinafni think i'll just give up :)
06:21:48midk2k3aww
06:21:50midk2k3wait here
06:21:54midk2k3i may haps can do it
06:22:10dustinafnok, thanks :)
06:22:22midk2k3ill look
06:23:18dustinafnhaps can do it? i dont think i understand
06:23:52midk2k3perhaps
06:24:01dustinafnOH
06:24:04dustinafnsorry
06:24:17midk2k3lol
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06:31:22dustinafnah, it looks like the patch is on a more recent version, the files it's lookin for are dated 01-29-04
06:36:25midk2k3ok now
06:36:30midk2k3lets see
06:36:37midk2k3GRR bash is sorta broken
06:37:39dustinafnah
06:37:55midk2k3hm
06:37:56midk2k3wait
06:38:07midk2k3i can do this
06:38:10midk2k3let me think here
06:38:44midk2k3ok
06:38:48midk2k3ill look at the raw patch
06:38:50midk2k3so sec
06:38:53midk2k3sorry
06:38:59dustinafnno problem
06:39:09midk2k3"choose behavior of play button" ?
06:40:28midk2k3is that it?
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06:41:21dustinafnyes
06:41:30dustinafnplay_button.diff it is
06:42:19midk2k3ok reading
06:42:26dustinafnah ok
06:42:35dustinafnmeanwhile i downloaded newer source code and will see what happens :)
06:43:54midk2k3lol
06:44:18midk2k3hmm
06:44:21midk2k3looks fairly simple
06:45:27dustinafnyea, i looked at it but dunno what to do with it
06:45:49midk2k3hard to explain then
06:46:18dustinafnah
06:46:38midk2k3well
06:46:41midk2k3ok ill try to real quick
06:47:25dustinafnthanks! :)
06:47:42midk2k3ok open the patch file
06:49:47dustinafnok
06:50:13midk2k3opened?
06:50:19dustinafnyes
06:50:27midk2k3ok look at the beginining
06:50:34dustinafnok
06:50:40midk2k3we're looking at english.lang
06:50:42midk2k3so open that in notepad
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06:51:24dustinafngot it
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06:51:26midk2k3oops
06:51:28dustinafngot it
06:51:28midk2k3:)
06:51:30dustinafn:)
06:51:31midk2k3ok
06:51:42midk2k3so the easiest way to find where the code goes
06:51:51midk2k3see the + by the lines
06:51:55dustinafnright
06:52:00midk2k3ok up above that
06:52:05midk2k3it says the previous code
06:52:33midk2k3in english.lang do ctrl+f and search for that exact line (above it, no + or -)
06:52:46midk2k3so, for example
06:52:53midk2k3search english.lang for " eng: "File Options""
06:53:02midk2k3get it?
06:53:19dustinafnyes
06:53:27midk2k3just compare and make sure it's the right spot
06:53:39midk2k3if it looks ok add in the code with the + next to it
06:53:44midk2k3and take out any with a - next to it
06:54:02midk2k3do that for all the files, there are file changes throughout
06:54:23dustinafndo you get weird characters when you open the file in notepad?
06:54:37midk2k3oh, blocks?
06:54:43dustinafnyea
06:54:45midk2k3that's normal, sorry (tab marks)
06:54:49midk2k3that means bad code
06:54:52dustinafnoh
06:55:02midk2k3heres a good example of part of the diff file:
06:55:02midk2k3−−- orig/apps/settings.c2004-01-29 16:33:22.653331200 +0100
06:55:02midk2k3+++ dev/apps/settings.c2004-01-29 16:53:32.783412800 +0100
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06:55:02midk2k3@@ -162,7 +162,8 @@
06:55:02midk2k3 0xCC (char[20]) Lang file
06:55:03***Alert Mode level 1
06:55:03midk2k3 0xE0 (char[20]) Font file
06:55:04***Alert Mode level 2
06:55:04midk2k3 0xF4 Prerecording time (bit 0-4), Recording directory option (bit 5-6)
06:55:08midk2k3-0xF5-0xFF <unused>
06:55:10midk2k3+0xF5 Play button behaviour
06:55:12midk2k3+0xF6-0xFF <unused>
06:55:14midk2k3here we see a file change at the top
06:55:20midk2k3so you open settings.c
06:55:22midk2k3take out the 0xF5-0xFF unused thing
06:55:31midk2k3and add in the 0xF5 play button, etc
06:55:45midk2k3- = take out, + = put in
06:55:49midk2k3pretty simple
06:56:12dustinafnok, just time consuming :)
06:56:16midk2k3its pretty short
06:56:20midk2k3i've dealt with way worse :)
06:56:26midk2k3i've got to sleep now
06:56:28midk2k3but good luck
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06:56:42dustinafni don't quite understand why the patch doesnt work honestly, those files dated 01-29-04, even with today's daily build they're older than that
06:56:43dustinafnok, thanks
06:56:45midk2k3when all done, just go to build dir and make again
06:56:52midk2k3?
06:56:58dustinafnand how do i get to ajbrec.ajz?
06:57:04midk2k3the files have been modified recently
06:57:24dustinafni see
06:57:35midk2k3so when it says it wants to change it at line 1300 and its now line 1400 becuase a 100 lines of code were added it gets confused
06:57:40midk2k3make sense?
06:57:48dustinafnyea
06:58:05dustinafnwhere would i get the version the patch is looking for? that's what im unclear on
06:58:13dustinafnbut i can try the manual way i suppose :)
06:58:17midk2k3there isn't really a simple archive
06:58:21midk2k3there is one way
06:58:22midk2k3but its hard
06:58:31dustinafnoh ok
06:58:33midk2k3i can tell you that friday if it doesnt work
06:58:44dustinafnok, thanks for the help :)
06:58:47midk2k3nite nite
06:58:51dustinafnnite
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12:04:29Wozza|Wrkanyone alive?
12:04:34webmindno
12:04:36webmindbut shoot
12:05:09Wozza|Wrkive just found out about this Rockbox and loaded it on my Recorder 20
12:05:12Wozza|Wrkits nice
12:05:24Wozza|Wrkjust reading the documentation...
12:05:34Wozza|Wrknoticed you can flash you r recorder as well
12:05:43Wozza|Wrkso it loads quicker and is better
12:05:49Wozza|Wrkjust a little confused
12:05:55Wozza|Wrknever flashed anythin befpre
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12:06:58Wozza|Wrkyou got any help for me pls?
12:14:15pfavrI'm using the rockbox 2.1 on my Jukebox Recorder 20 and it is very nice
12:14:26pfavrI only use it for playback though
12:14:30pfavrYou don't need to flash it
12:14:58pfavronly if you want it to start playing very fast after turning it on
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15:31:09troxhello everyone.
15:31:15T^JulioVega|Zogghey there
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15:33:22troxI have a bit of a RTFM question, but I swear I cant find the answer in any documentation.
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15:33:50Nibblerthen stfw?
15:33:52Nibbler:-)
15:33:54Nibbleror simply ask
15:34:24troxIt's about the "shuffle" feature on my Jukebox Recorder 20.
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15:35:23Nibblertrox: is this the question already?
15:35:25troxIve got all my MP3s in folders and I want the shuffle to include ALL the folders, not just among 1 of them.
15:35:30Nibbleroh sorry :-)
15:35:37Nibblertrox: make a playlist of them
15:35:53troxmy fault Nibbler: bad typist.
15:36:10Nibbleri noticed. but only after i complained :D
15:36:15troxI see... and then shuffle the playlist?
15:36:34troxyeah, it's a curse. the typing.
15:37:45troxwould you reccomend making the playlist in Winamp first, then shufflig it within the recorder?
15:38:18trox(sorry, I got it for Christmas, I'm still exploring it's quirks)
15:39:52troxYou still there, Nibbler?
15:42:15troxanyone?
15:42:22moormasteryes i am here
15:42:39moormasterrockbox is able to create a playlist of the whole disk
15:42:49moormasteryou dont have to use winamp for that
15:43:06troxI see...
15:43:17dwihnoit takes some time though
15:43:27troxwhere do I find that feature? under playlists?
15:43:36moormasteryes but you only have to create the file when new mp3s are on the disk
15:43:50Nibblerre trox, had a shower
15:43:57moormasterF1/ Playlist/Create Playlist
15:44:12moormasterthen it creates a playlist of the directory in which you are currently
15:44:21troxhaha, sorry to nag you Nibbler, thanks for the tip.
15:44:31Nibblernp
15:45:07moormasterbut this should be described in the manual of rockbox
15:45:08troxI see, then I do that for every folder in the harddrive then and shuffle among the,?
15:45:41moormasternow you just go to the root of the disk and then you create a playlist from there
15:45:56moormasterrockbox should automatically search all directorys for mp3s
15:46:34troxOK, thanks moormaster, that's very helpful.
15:47:04troxI hadn't begun to use the playlist feature yet...OK, I'll check the manual again.
15:47:15moormasterhttp://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/manual.pdf
15:47:15moormasterp. 26
15:47:56troxthanks again!
15:47:59moormasternp
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21:58:17trackhi
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22:02:48 Join Fred [0] (~frederik@pD9EE2C3F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
22:02:53Fredhay guys
22:04:14Fredcan anyone help me with rockbox 2.1 ?
22:04:43moormasterwhat problem do you have?
22:04:59Fredah moormaste is wieder der einzige der on is ^^
22:05:15moormaster;)
22:05:17moormasterdas is hier nur ein waitning-room ;)
22:05:39Fredalso wenn ich das plugin "viewer" starte, dann macht die jukebox ganz komische achen, is das normal?
22:05:50moormasterwas denn für komische Sachen?
22:06:23Fredder zeigt ganz schnell hintereinander allen moeglichen scheiß aufm bildschirm an so was wie opening playlist und so
22:06:49moormasteralso wenn ich bei mir viewer starte, dann steht da nur Plugin returned error
22:07:07moormasterich glaub das is eigentlich das Plugin, mit dem man txt Dateien lesen kann
22:07:23moormasterdas sollte man normaler Weise nicht einfach so einzeln starten können
22:07:44Fredaso
22:07:48Freddann is ja gut
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22:08:02Fredich glaub das steht bei mir auch nach ner zeit
22:08:03moormasteraber dass der bei dir alles Mögliche macht is auch nich wirklich normal denke ich
22:08:36Fredweisst du ob man bei "jackpot" das manuell anhalten kann die slots?
22:08:40moormasterist das ne Version, die du selbst compiliert hast oder is die original heruntergeladen?
22:08:47Fredoriginal
22:08:59moormasterjackpot geht bei mir nich. der zeigt an incompatible model
22:09:25moormastervielleicht ist das ja bei den recordern normal, dass der erst alles mögliche macht und dann den Fehler zeigt
22:09:42Fredich hab aber studio
22:09:50moormasterjo dann eben bei studio ;)
22:09:59Fredjo ^^
22:11:22Fredkoennte es eigentlich sein, dass hier gerne leute reingehn und den ganzen tag nur idlen?
22:11:31moormasterjop
22:11:33moormastersieht so aus
22:11:59Fredoh mann ^^
22:12:01moormasterdie antworten auch mal wenn man ne Frage stellt, dauert eben nur manchmal bis die mitbekommen, dass jmd. was geschrieben hat
22:12:12Fred^^
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22:25:30GoatBoyare there battery differences in the V2?
22:28:22Fredwhat v2
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22:31:03Fredhiho
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22:41:43Fredis anyone actually here? (NOT afk?)
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22:44:02Fredi knew it
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22:53:44GoatBoyhi
22:53:45GoatBoysorry
22:54:02GoatBoyuhm, that archos 20gb jukebox recorder "special edition" they have on sale at amazon
22:54:14GoatBoydo they all use the same AA factor batteries?
22:58:26Fredi think so
22:58:44Fredy should they use others?
22:59:27GoatBoyuhm
22:59:30GoatBoyto reduce size?
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23:00:08GoatBoyi haven't been able to verify if they are just like the others
23:00:14Fredah i dunno, i havent seen the se
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23:17:34Fredcan anyone help me with the linux rockbox developement?
23:20:28Fredthanks
23:21:00Fredanyone here?
23:21:15Fredalarm alert anyone here ?
23:21:32top_blokeyeah
23:21:45Fredcan u help me?
23:21:56top_blokei dont know linux
23:22:00Fredfuk
23:22:20top_blokewait a while maybe someone will
23:23:01Fredall afk
23:23:21top_blokethey'll come back?
23:23:28Frednope
23:23:37Fredthey come in, idle and part again
23:23:57top_blokelol
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23:26:24Fredwell then if nobody wants to help someone, the community will shatter and rockbox will never be updated again
23:26:33Fredi go now
23:26:50Fredif someone can help me next time, i'd be glad
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