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#rockbox log for 2004-02-17

00:08:17 Quit AciD (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
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00:12:00LinusNmidknight2k3: i found the spindown problem
00:12:06midknight2k3woohoo
00:12:10LinusNlooks like theis bug has been there for ages
00:12:19midknight2k3well it used to work
00:12:39LinusNages == before 2.0
00:12:54midknight2k3"looks like" != for sure
00:12:55midknight2k3:)
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00:13:27LinusNthe ATA standby is activated by default when the drive powers up, set to 30s
00:13:54LinusNso, the drive will spin down after 30s regardless of the software
00:14:22midknight2k3ha.
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00:17:16midknight2k3oh wait
00:17:18midknight2k3thats not good
00:17:26midknight2k3why even have the setting >30 then anyhow
00:18:19LinusNthe bug affects the browsing as well, btw
00:18:56midknight2k3can we keep the "disk spinning while browsing" feature?
00:19:58elinenbeLinusN: hi there!
00:20:14elinenbejust reading the conversation −− good job!
00:20:16elinenbemidknight2k3: hello.
00:20:22elinenbeLinusN: how was the move?
00:20:35LinusNpainless, apart from the snow storm :-)
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00:20:54LinusNstill lots of boxes left to unpack...
00:21:12LinusNmidknight2k3: sure
00:21:36LinusNmidknight2k3: it was a mistake of mine to think it was a bug
00:21:36midknight2k3ooh
00:21:38midknight2k3linus moved?
00:21:47midknight2k3woo woo go linus
00:21:48LinusN80 meters
00:21:51midknight2k3hi elinenbe
00:21:54elinenbehi there.
00:21:54midknight2k380 meters
00:21:57midknight2k3hm
00:22:18elinenbeLinusN: I have moved short distances the past few years, and I still have boxes packed up
00:22:40elinenbemy theory is −− if I don't know what is in the box and I have not unpacked it yet, then I will not miss what is in there
00:23:10midknight2k3LOL
00:23:57midknight2k3LinusN: did you check out the vu patch yet?
00:24:51midknight2k3well merge it asap, it's a rather important update
00:24:53midknight2k3ttyl all
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00:36:14trackhi
00:36:25trackLinusN diddystar wants you to add his new vu meter to rockbox
00:46:32GoatBoyheh
00:46:59GoatBoywell, you could get a really small meter, and hook it up to the headphone output...
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01:29:07Doggeranyone here know much about ATA?
01:29:18LinusNa little
01:29:24Doggerok,
01:29:37DoggerI'm issuing command 0x20 - READ SECTORS
01:29:47Doggerit works fine if I just read 1 sector at a time,
01:29:53Doggerbut if I try and read more than 1,
01:30:02Doggerthe start of the 2nd sector gets corrupted
01:30:15Doggerdo I have to do something inbetween sector reads from the data reg?
01:30:26Doggereg waitForReady or waitForStartOfXfer?
01:30:32LinusNdefine "corrupted"
01:30:45Dogger(I'm waiting for start of xfer at the start of transfer
01:31:16Doggerthe 1st 6 words of the 2nd sector are d000 d000 d000 d000 d000 d000
01:31:18DoggerNOT the data
01:31:28Doggerbut after that, it carries on getting the data where it should
01:32:11Doggerthen it happens again at beginning of 3rd sector etc
01:32:41Doggerlooks like I have to wait inbetween reading each sector off the data reg?
01:32:51Doggeror wait for some flag or something
01:33:03LinusNwell, BSY must be 0 and DRQ must be 1
01:33:21Doggerdo I need to check that each time?
01:33:28LinusNfor each sector yes
01:33:28Doggeror just after I send it the COMMAND?
01:33:33Doggerok,
01:33:50Doggerso every 256 words transfered I need to check?
01:34:04LinusNyes, think of it like this:
01:34:19LinusN"don't trust any bits in the status register unless BSY is 0"
01:34:42LinusNmy quite
01:34:47LinusNquote
01:34:52Doggeryeah just tried that though
01:35:10Doggermy waitForXfer waits until BSY=0, and DRQ=1
01:35:13LinusNhow about wait states, pio modes etc?
01:35:20LinusNIORDY
01:35:24Doggerhavent done any wait states
01:35:35DoggerIORDY?
01:35:52LinusNIORDY is used to insert wait states
01:36:06Doggerhow does it work?
01:36:09LinusNthe host should delay the access until IORDY is negated
01:36:42LinusNso if the access needs longer time, the device asserts IORDY until the access is finished
01:37:08LinusNeither that, or the host uses a very long access time by default
01:37:13Doggerwhere is IORDY? in ata reg?
01:37:21LinusNi discovered today that 400ns isn't uncommon
01:37:33LinusNIORDY is a pin in the connector
01:37:42Doggerok,
01:37:53LinusNin the jukebox, it is connected to /WAIT
01:37:59LinusN(via some glue)
01:38:59Doggerah ok,
01:39:26Doggerworks fine if I do it 1 sector at a time
01:39:33Doggermaybe I'll just leave it like that for now...
01:40:14LinusNi think the device needs some time to transfer the next sector from the cache to the FIFO
01:40:27Doggersure it looks that way
01:40:36Doggerthe official firmware uses dma though
01:40:48LinusNnice
01:40:48Doggerso maybe I should just leave it at 1 sector for now until I get dma done
01:40:57Doggerdoes the jukebox have dma?
01:42:50LinusNnot for ata
01:43:37Doggerhow configurable is the line in line out?
01:43:46Doggercan you get/put raw data?
01:44:35LinusNno
01:44:48Doggerits hard wired to the mas?
01:45:03LinusNyes
01:45:09Doggerk
01:47:00Doggerare there any datasheets on the mas?
01:50:17LinusNhttp://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/datasheets.html
01:50:30Doggercool thanks
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01:57:34Doggergot it! cool ATA works
01:57:40Doggerit was my fault
01:57:48Doggerworking for xfer inbetween sectors works now
01:57:51Doggerthanks :)
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02:34:59Doggerhttp://avos.sourceforge.net/index.php?a=bins
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02:35:06Doggercheck out the vids ;)
02:45:22LinusN:-)
02:45:29LinusNtime to sleep
02:45:29LinusNcu around
02:45:31LinusNnite
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06:11:28mid|flightSim2k4hi elinenbe
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10:25:21midknight2k3nite all
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11:10:44Dominpfavr, i like your idea about password for the archos
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11:24:57pfavrDomin: well, it wasn't really my idea
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11:33:26Dominit wasent ??
11:33:35DominJust looked yesterdays log
11:33:43Dominthought the idea was your
11:33:45Domin+s
11:33:54Dominbut, never mind, its still nice
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11:43:44Dominwee, finaly found out how the queue function works, couldent find it yesterday ;-)
11:44:21DominBtw, this is extremely nice that you have coded this software for the archos, just what it needed
11:45:36pfavrI agree, but so far I didn't do a single line
11:45:47Dominhehe ;-)
11:45:53DominJust found the site yesterday
11:46:12pfavrBut rockbox is the most successful open source project I know of (besides Linux)
11:46:32Dominonly function i need more is a function in winamp that allows the sendto to point to the archos drive
11:46:44Dominits wery nice
11:46:55Dominbut i know others to that is also sucsfull
11:47:18Dominhttp://forum.snitz.com <−− also wery nice
11:47:21pfavrWell, maybe it is because I don't know that many
11:48:42Domin:-)
11:49:10DominBut indeed this is wery nice, espesialy when the manufactors dont support the device
11:52:22dwihnoI haven't figured out all the playlist commands yet.
11:52:49*pfavr is away: breakfast
11:54:31Dominhehe, me nighter, just playing around with it for the moment
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19:09:43midknight2k3hi hardeep
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19:11:15trackhi
19:11:15midknight2k3hi track
19:11:19trackhi mid
19:11:31midknight2k3http://www.timex.com/datalink/
19:11:33midknight2k3my new watch
19:12:21tracklooks nice
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19:12:37midknight2k3you can program it
19:12:42trackyea i saw
19:12:43midknight2k3i think i'll try and put rockbox on it :D
19:12:52trackINDIGLO® night-light with NIGHT-MODE® feature
19:12:58trackWorks with MICROSOFT® OUTLOOK® messaging and collaboration client
19:13:04Nirmithi guys
19:13:14DBUGEnqueued KICK Nirmit
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19:13:27midknight2k3hi nirmit
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19:18:54tracklol
19:19:14midknight2k3LOGBOT WOO
19:22:06tracklol
19:25:05midknight2k3who wants to see my 3d imc?
19:27:07trackwhat does the word "generic" mean?
19:27:07midknight2k3(track raises hand)
19:27:10midknight2k3OK track ill show you
19:27:18midknight2k3generic means general
19:27:25trackoh right
19:27:27midknight2k3like
19:27:29midknight2k3ok
19:28:20midknight2k3track
19:28:23midknight2k3still on leafchat?
19:28:48trackyes
19:29:22midknight2k3still got broadband?
19:29:23trackvery nice pic
19:29:25midknight2k3looks like
19:29:25trackyes
19:29:28track1mb
19:29:30midknight2k3it didnt even show it
19:29:35midknight2k3it didnt finish yet
19:29:39midknight2k3how can you say nice pic
19:29:56tracka blue ball of some sort underneath a large grey T shaped object
19:30:27midknight2k3that'd be, a blue glow inside 3 spinning rings, with a gantry crane overneath :D
19:32:03track yes
19:33:17midknight2k3here see
19:33:23midknight2k3http://contact-themovie.warnerbros.com/cmp/machine2.html
19:33:25midknight2k3NO
19:33:28midknight2k3here
19:33:29midknight2k3http://contact-themovie.warnerbros.com/img/machine/20.jpg
19:34:14midknight2k3the reason they're offset is because that's what they look like when in motion
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20:09:26midknight2k3tasty
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22:16:21Dominevening
22:16:28Dominanyone still awaker
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22:46:25trackhi
22:47:48trackmy hd is nearly full :(
22:48:57uskiif (hard_drive_nearly_full == 1) buy_another_hard_drive();
22:49:30trackcant afford one
22:58:18uskiif (cant_afford_a_new_hd) free_some_space;
22:58:18uski;)
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23:00:26trackyea
23:00:35trackGot 3 Gb left
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23:50:50uskigood nite all
23:50:54uski23:52 here
23:51:03midknight2k3nite
23:51:04midknight2k3uski
23:51:07midknight2k3:)
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