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#rockbox log for 2004-04-24

00:01:52pfavrhmm, voice is not working here... what am I doing wrong?
00:04:03[IDC]Dragonamiconn: have you ever tried a gray_drawgraymap() more than 8 pixels high?
00:05:42amiconnYes, the demo uses an 8x10 graymap.
00:07:15[IDC]DragonOK, then I must be doing something wrong.
00:12:54pfavrI have enabled voice in the settings - I can see the english.voice file in .rockbox/langs/english.voice (without an icon) - so how do I hear any voice?
00:13:15pfavr(I have put on my headphones)
00:13:20[IDC]Dragonare your limits set to very high values?
00:13:28pfavr(and the plug is in - the music is playing)
00:13:33[IDC]Dragon(max dir/playlist)
00:13:50pfavr[IDC]Dragon, you're talking to me?
00:14:05[IDC]Dragonpfavr: yes. how much memory is left?
00:14:25pfavr[IDC]Dragon, it is a bleeding edge build of today - I didn't changeanything
00:14:30[IDC]DragonInfo -> Rockbox Info
00:14:54[IDC]DragonBuffer: ?
00:15:02pfavrBuffer: 1.601 MB
00:15:23[IDC]Dragonnot rerribly much, but should fit.
00:15:28pfavrMaybe I destroyed something during copying...
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00:17:18pfavrOk, good night everybody - I'm off to bed
00:17:38midknite pfavr
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00:18:12midkBTW, LinusN, IDC, if you were thinking of merging my clock update, please don't for a bit−− i have a few more bugs to fix + features to add
00:19:03midkincluding the checkbox widget probably... any idea if that's going to be merged?
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00:28:11midkbrb
00:31:55[IDC]Dragonsleep time
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00:45:42zemidk: http://psyco.yi.org:8042/etheric_storm_3d.html
00:45:51zemidk: cross your eyes till the 2 sides line up, and you'll see it in 3D
00:46:01midkyay its ze
00:46:02midkok
00:46:34midkwait so like
00:46:46midkso the right side of the right one is lined up with the right side of the left one?
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00:46:59zeeh?
00:47:11midk"until the sides line up"
00:47:15midkwhich sides?
00:47:21zethe left image coresponds to what your right eye would see and the right image coresponds to what the left eye should see
00:47:41zeso you cross your eyes so that the right eye's looking at the left image and the left eye's looking at the right image
00:47:45zeso the 2 images line up
00:48:06zeso then it'll look like 3 images and the one in the middle will be in 3D
00:48:21midklooks like a blur of blue
00:48:35zewell keep it in focus
00:48:35ze:p
00:48:41midkdoes look sort of 3d
00:48:48midki cant
00:48:50zeand it might help to be back from the screen a bit
00:49:12midkheh cant really
00:49:15midknice though
00:49:18zesure you can
00:49:19midkit does look sort of 3d
00:49:21zeheh
00:49:27midkeven if it's just blurry
00:49:34ze*shrug*
00:49:34midk*bad eyes
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00:50:01midkwhat did that take like 5 days to render HHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHA
00:50:05zei guess i'll just have to find funding to develop my flatscreen 3D display idea
00:50:12zenah, i rendered it overnight
00:50:22midkflatscreen 3d?
00:50:27zeyeah
00:50:32midkelaborate.
00:50:37zei know how you can make a flatscreen display that shows a 3D image
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00:50:47midkgo, on.
00:50:57zeno then you'll steal my idea
00:50:57ze:p
00:51:03midksharp's done it
00:51:11midkjust wondering if you nicked their idea or made it up differently
00:51:42zeand it's not with those cheesy triangular columns
00:52:00zethat they do crappy 3D and motion stuff with
00:52:17zewhich is what i've seen for the most recent 3D displays
00:52:26zeit basically accomplishes the same thing but much better than that
00:52:26zeheh
00:52:30midkLETS HEARIT THEN lol
00:52:54zei might make like an animation
00:53:00midkcome on already
00:53:06zethat shows the basic idea and like zooms out to show the display
00:53:06zeand stuff
00:53:08zeheh
00:53:25midkwell make it or tell me
00:53:44zethat'd be all leet cause i'd use some cool energy flowing looking dealies on the microscopic pixel things and then like zoom out and pan around so you see it forming a display and then see the image on the display
00:54:04zeof course i'd want to use the same kinda 3D trick as for that etheric_storm_3d so you could see it in 3D
00:54:12zeotherwise it's not a very good demonstration
00:54:14zebut heh
00:54:33midklol you're funny
00:54:37midknow tell me
00:54:40zeheh
00:54:41zeno
00:54:47zei remember, you'll steal it
00:54:47midkwtf
00:54:51ze:p
00:55:10midki won 't steal it
00:55:11midkwtf
00:55:18midki cant patent anything
00:55:20midklol
00:55:37zeheh
00:56:02zei'm going to the library
00:56:03zebbl :p
00:56:07midkBBBBOOOOOOOO
00:56:09midknoooooo
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01:16:25midkmm brb
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01:46:18Shiberi'm having a problem that i don't think is covered in the FAQ, is there anyone who is available?
01:46:39midkme
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01:48:00Shiberwell, i've installed the hebrew language file as it says in the FAQ
01:48:11Shiberbut filenames with hebrew characters in them show up as cyrillic chars
01:48:19Shiberany idea what i might have done wrong?
01:48:26diddystar5Shiber, i think you need to cahnge your font
01:48:38Shiberthat's the problem, i have a player
01:48:55Shiberso without a recorder, i am doomed to never be able to see hebrew characters on my screen?
01:48:57diddystar5Shiber, then i don't really know
01:49:13diddystar5i would talk to someone that might know, like linusn
01:49:18Shiberhmm... then what are the language files for if they're of no use? ...
01:49:19diddystar5but he not here atm
01:49:23Shiberthanks
01:49:32diddystar5ohh wait, sometimes linux does lurk in the chat logs
01:49:35Shiberanyone in here with experience with displaying foreign charsets?
01:49:35diddystar5LINUSN
01:49:36diddystar5!
01:49:57midkcalm down diddystar
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04:01:12midksebulba!
04:01:14midkawwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
04:01:15 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7FD1A.dip.t-dialin.net)
04:01:20midkhey ami
04:01:21midkconn
04:01:27amiconnhi
04:01:43midkhad a question the other day forgot it
04:01:46amiconnalready 4 am in europe..
04:02:06amiconn..by my script works!
04:02:10amiconn*but
04:02:32midkyay
04:02:49diddystar5what script?
04:02:53midkdie dids
04:02:55midkdie die die
04:03:45amiconnVB Script to generate voice files from .lang files, with replacement of wrong pronounced words.
04:04:23midkniceys
04:04:42amiconnNow I can generate 6 voice files (all voices that I have 5 english ones and 1 german) by simply starting one script.
04:04:54amiconnTakes just under 4 minutes.
04:05:03midknice!
04:05:05midkoyahh
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04:05:54jorbondwhoo archos is taking back my player, and sending me a new one for free
04:06:00midkyay
04:06:36jorbondbut is there anyway to connect the harddrive to my computer
04:06:45jorbondthe player will not boot up so the usb doesnt work
04:06:52midk2.5 -> 3.5 inch adapter
04:07:26jorbondcan i get one at any computer store?
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04:08:00amiconnmidk: Still one thing left to do - shorten the pauses between letters/ numbers (for spelling/ values). This is especially annoying with natural voices.
04:08:21midkjorbond: probably
04:08:37midkyeah
04:08:40midkami: yeah
04:08:53jorbondand that will convert the ide pins also?
04:09:08amiconnNite all.
04:09:37jorbondfound one at compusa for $6, not bad at all
04:09:39jorbondthank you
04:10:16midknite ami
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04:10:22midkjorbond: up, that will work
04:10:24midkyup*
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04:15:49Shiberi've got a question relating to the new voice feature
04:16:41midksure
04:17:19Shiberwell, for one thing, what does it do?
04:17:35midkheh
04:17:40midkvoices the menus and or filenames
04:17:49Shiberoh, cool
04:17:55midkcan spell out the filenames, give numbers, or play .dirname.tbx
04:18:56Shiberhow do i make it spell out something?
04:21:01Shiberi know it's already covered, i still can't get it to work
04:21:17Shiberi've put the voice file in the langs directory
04:23:28midkgeneral settings -> voice -> BLA
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04:28:56Shiberwell, that's the thing. i don't have a voice option under general settings
04:29:03midkget a later daily build
04:30:04Shiberi've got version 2.2, it should work, no?
04:30:14midkit won't
04:30:16midkget a later daily build
04:30:50Shiberi see, thanks
04:31:49midknp
04:31:54midk*spreads wisdom
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04:32:40midkSCOTTY
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04:36:37scott666 midk
04:36:42scott666...!
04:36:47midkYO YO YO
04:36:49midkWAS WASASASAVAS; jauF:
04:36:55midksry tourettes is active tonight
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04:39:29kaboofais anyone... uh.. not idle?
04:39:50kaboofaI have a question about setting up the rockbox win32 sdk, because I gave up on it with freebsd
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04:42:48midkme
04:42:58midkhalt your questions + use this:
04:43:05midkhttp://rockbox.my-vserver.de/beta
04:43:08midkget 0.2
04:43:10kaboofaok
04:43:20kaboofaThank you much.
04:43:44midkno problem
04:43:47midkbuilds tools and sim
04:43:53kaboofagcc too?
04:43:56kaboofa.. duh..
04:43:59kaboofathat would be a build too :|
04:44:00kaboofa*tool
04:44:26midkbuilds the rockbox tools i mean
04:45:13kaboofaso should i just copy all this into my cygwin directory?
04:45:31kaboofaah
04:45:34*kaboofa sees the readme
04:45:57midkit installs
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05:11:14 Join doctor88 [0] (doctor88@ACA0D6EF.ipt.aol.com)
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05:11:59doctor88can anyone tell me how to get to the root dir?
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05:13:08midkheh
05:16:29doctor88the manual refers to extracting the rockbox to the root folder. does anyone know how to do that?
05:17:11midkmm
05:17:14midklik
05:17:16midklike*
05:17:19midkthe main folder?
05:17:28midklike c:\ for your hard drive
05:17:39midkIE d:\ for your jukebox
05:17:43midkor e:\ or whatever
05:18:22doctor88yes
05:19:27doctor88i just got this thing and am trying to figure out how it works
05:19:37midkit's a hard drive
05:19:45midkthink of it as c:\ but it can be detached
05:20:25doctor88yeah i know. but if i extract this rockbox on a blank drive does it do the rest? or what?
05:21:30midk"the rest"?
05:22:01doctor88as far as the rockbox benifits
05:22:10midkyes
05:22:33doctor88just pretend that i am totally stupid and you are explaining it
05:22:46midknever really had to
05:22:50midkunzip it to your jukebox
05:22:51midkdone
05:23:24doctor88oh, then disconnect?
05:23:30midkyes
05:23:46doctor88i'll give it a try. thanks
05:23:50midkno problem
05:29:23kaboofammm, <3 uwe_prop
05:30:41kaboofaYaay, it works!
05:30:41midk<3 atadore <3 hebrew bold
05:31:13kaboofaGot to see about polish support for my mom.
05:31:23kaboofaShe has an archos recorder like I do :)
05:31:27midkrockbox.haxx.se/lang
05:31:55midkmm polski...
05:32:08kaboofammm pie
05:32:09kaboofauhm
05:32:10kaboofai mean
05:32:11DBUGEnqueued KICK kaboofa
05:32:11kaboofayeah
05:32:19kaboofa!! Cool!~
05:32:23kaboofa<3 rockbox
05:32:27midkwait a secx
05:32:29midksec*
05:32:31midk"mm pie"
05:32:37midkdid you get that anywhere? lol
05:32:44kaboofaYes. Weebl and Bob.
05:32:56midkmm
05:32:57midkYAY
05:32:59kaboofahttp://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/pie.htm
05:32:59midkits another fan
05:33:06midkthe um
05:33:10midkwhats that one called agian
05:33:13midktv i think
05:33:18midkthat one was really good
05:33:19kaboofaUh..
05:33:26midkkaboofa coooool
05:33:27kaboofaI like the 'mask' one/
05:33:44kaboofa:D
05:33:45kaboofaThank you!
05:33:47kaboofahttp://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/mask.htm
05:33:53midkOYAH
05:33:56midkcoolest rockboxer
05:33:57midkright here
05:34:09midk http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/tv.htm
05:34:14kaboofaI think i'm printing out the API for this ^_^
05:34:23kaboofaYay for wasting school resources!
05:34:27midklol
05:36:16kaboofaDamn
05:36:25kaboofaI have to wait until monday to print it :|
05:36:29midkLOL
05:45:13doctor88does anyone know of any uploaders on irc?
05:45:35kaboofauploaders?
05:45:39kaboofaas in dcc bots?
05:46:33doctor88as in software/music etc
05:47:08doctor88this is the first time using irc just checking the limitations
05:47:12kaboofaoh
05:47:13kaboofacheck PM
05:47:23doctor88how?
05:47:32kaboofai just sent you a private message
05:47:55kaboofamutex
05:47:55kaboofahaha
05:47:57kaboofabest word ever
05:48:21doctor88mutex?
05:48:27kaboofaI saw it on the rockbox api listing
05:48:33kaboofagoing to google to see what it means now
05:48:42kaboofaI know it has something to do with threads
05:49:04doctor88oh, let me know
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05:49:43kaboofaa mutex is a program object that allows multiple program threads to share the same resource, such as file access, but not simultaneously
05:50:21doctor88what is the benifit?
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06:29:14c0uttahello there bc
06:30:27kaboofaIs anyone else having problems with the UI simulator and the directories?
06:30:52kaboofawhere it's using the root directory of my HDD instead of the archos directory the make script made for it/
06:31:27c0uttayes, i've never got it to work using the archos directory
06:31:37kaboofa:X
06:31:43c0uttaBC had a patch which fixed many sim issues, but it's a bit old now
06:31:46kaboofalook like i just have to copy the file over to my hdd every time
06:32:00BClol - just replying to that email
06:32:07kaboofaheh
06:32:30BCanswer this - what precisely is the problem
06:33:20kaboofaI run it, but instead of starting in the sandbox \archos directory the make script created, it starts off in my hard disc's root directory
06:34:24BCthat can be botched in tree.c line 141
06:34:44kaboofaThank you.
06:34:49BC;)
06:34:58c0uttaIIRC your patch fixed it BC
06:35:31BCyes, in completeness, but the patch no longere applies by a long shot, and it is not successful in "the right way"
06:35:55c0uttabotched in tree.c line 141 is the answer then..
06:36:13BCthe eschelons would rather it were done by ove-riding a bunch of core routines in the win32sim file io
06:36:37BClol
06:36:38BC:)
06:36:57kaboofahmm
06:36:57kaboofawait
06:37:03c0uttathe sim works ok for me - i don't mind that it uses the root of my hdd
06:37:19kaboofaI don't mind either, but i'm trying to develop plugins for rockbox
06:37:28kaboofaand i need to keep going to cygwin\home\blahblah every time
06:37:38BCyep - and that's where it's a complete killer
06:37:49kaboofa(too lazy to add cp tomstuff.rock /)
06:37:50BChowever, if that is your precise problem there are better fixes
06:38:10kaboofaand it makes the "browse plugins" break
06:38:39BCjust point browse_root at your build dir
06:39:28BCbetter still for plugin dev
06:39:49BCis patch main.c:66 to load the plugin ;)
06:39:57BCthen you run striaght into your patch
06:40:01BCai*
06:40:03kaboofahmmm
06:40:05kaboofanice point
06:40:11kaboofaThanks :)
06:40:21BCyw
06:40:24BCwhat r u writing?
06:40:42kaboofajust random newbie stuff for now
06:40:48kaboofaso i can get the hang of it
06:41:21kaboofaI plan on getting a game going soon
06:41:23BCgreyscale fruit machine :)
06:41:23kaboofa*working
06:41:27kaboofaHeh
06:41:33kaboofayeah, i saw the mandelbrot demo
06:41:39kaboofa(can't spell, you know, the math thing)
06:41:40BCI'm just tidying up my card game framework
06:41:52kaboofaI need to find something interesting to code
06:42:04kaboofaI don't want to do "Yet Anoter Snake Clone"
06:42:15BChmmmmmmmmmm
06:42:19BCplatformer?
06:42:27kaboofaHmm
06:42:28kaboofanot a bad idea
06:42:39BCi have the basics of some sprite routines here
06:42:46BCwould need some work though
06:43:07BCset up three layers, bit of xor sprite collision and you're away
06:43:17kaboofai'm going to hug my pillow
06:43:34kaboofai'll probably be back tomorrow around 9 and 10 am EST (gmt-4)
06:43:38BCgimme a shout if you need any help
06:43:39BCok
06:43:40kaboofaThanks for all the help
06:43:41kaboofaalright
06:43:42kaboofawill do.
06:43:49BCnight
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12:38:49amiconnHi Jörg
12:38:55[IDC]Dragonhi Jens
12:39:03[IDC]Dragona question:
12:39:40[IDC]Dragonis there a particular reason why you don't use your nice memcpy() for the fray scrolling?
12:39:47[IDC]Dragons/fray/gray
12:40:34amiconn(1) For scrolling up/down by 8 pixels, I _use_ memcpy
12:40:57amiconn(2) For scrolling up/down by 1 pixel, memcpy can't be used (bit shifting)
12:41:13[IDC]Dragonsure
12:41:20[IDC]Dragonhow about left?
12:41:36[IDC]Dragonright won't work because of overlap
12:41:50[IDC]Dragonsorry, vice-versa
12:42:00amiconn(2) For scrolling left/right, memcpy can't be used because source and destination overlap, so the behaviour is undefined (as says ANBSI docs)
12:42:25amiconns/(2)/(3); s/ANBSI/ANSI/
12:42:26[IDC]Dragonhe, but it's you memcpy, so you know it ;-)
12:43:12amiconnYes, for one direction it would be possible, but I didn't want to do that, because later someone else may change the memcpy(), so it would break.
12:43:30amiconnBtw: I found the reason why there are these long gaps between the characters while spelling, when the voice used to build the font is a "natural voice"
12:43:56[IDC]Dragonafk, real life calls
12:44:08amiconnThe problem is that the beginning / end of the .wav is not completely silent.
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12:45:43SeeSchlossHi, anybody in here ?
12:48:36SeeSchlossok, I'll ask my question anyway : does anyone knows if there's a vim indent style suited for rockbox ?
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12:59:53[IDC]Dragonamiconn: I know, but don't have a "clever" wavtrim. Was thinking about it...
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13:00:56mattzzhi ho
13:01:09[IDC]Dragonhi he
13:01:24amiconnI've just prepared such a "clever" wavtrim. It takes an optional third parameter to give the "maximum silence".
13:02:06[IDC]Dragonyou should do a (quick) fade out then, to avoid clicks
13:02:42amiconnI didn't do that (yet), because the values are really low
13:03:50[IDC]DragonTextAloud has an annoying output with AT&T, it adds about a second of non-silence to each
13:04:19[IDC]Dragonmy lang2wav however not, I don't know what they did.
13:05:45amiconnI don't use TextAloud for the voice file generation, as my VBScript does work meanwhile. It does what lang2wav does, plus string replacement and everything the .cmd files do. It uses wavtrim.exe and voicefont.exe
13:06:49amiconnSo I can generate voice fonts for all 6 voices I have (5 US english + 1 german) in just under 4 minutes, fully automatic with starting one single script.
13:10:06amiconnI found another (cleaner) way to make at&t pronounce "resume" correctly - just enclose it in quotes.
13:12:52[IDC]Dragoninteresting
13:13:08[IDC]Dragonhow about generally doing so?
13:14:00amiconnWhy should we do that?
13:14:25[IDC]Dragondunno, if it's better for single words
13:15:17[IDC]Dragoncan your script (potentially) work with SAPI4?
13:15:27[IDC]Dragonthat's also COM
13:16:48amiconnDunno, have to set up a test environment for that, since I don't want to uninstall sapi 5. Will build a test environment with VMware, but not now.
13:18:22[IDC]DragonSAPI 4 and 5 can co-exist
13:18:36[IDC]DragonI have both on my PC
13:18:53amiconnYes, I know, but I don't know what the script uses if both exists, since you cannot specify that
13:19:06[IDC]Dragonit's different COM interfaces
13:19:50amiconnFrom VBscript, you don't use COM directly. I actually _can_ generate a voice font with MS sam, so maybe it will work with sapi 4
13:20:28[IDC]Dragonwhat else do you do than using COM? (confused)
13:21:07[IDC]DragonI think Sam is also SAPI5
13:21:38[IDC]Dragonyou don't see the SAPI4 voices in the control panes, MS seems to phase them out
13:21:52[IDC]Dragons/panes/panel
13:21:56amiconnOf course it uses COM internally, but using it from VBScript is (almsot) as simple as doing "Set oSpVoice = CreateObject("SAPI.SpVoice")"
13:22:36[IDC]Dragonhave to leave, thanks for your script-work!
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13:47:03pfavrJust found out that voice only works when not playing. So voice works ok on my JBR with the bleeding edge build from yesterday.
13:47:17pfavr(I said yesterday that it didn't work)
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16:11:18Shiberhey
16:11:24Shiberdoes Rockbox play ogg files?
16:11:25c0uttahey
16:11:30c0uttanope
16:12:00Shiberbummer
16:12:04Shiber:)
16:17:09Shiberanother question
16:17:17c0uttayup
16:17:26Shiberis it possible to display foreign charsets on my Jukebox Player?
16:17:57c0uttaat the moment it's latin, but there is a "Far East" Rockbox version
16:18:18Shiberin other words, i can't display hebrew filenames...
16:18:59Shiberbummer yet again
16:19:04c0uttai think you can. there is a hebrew font available
16:19:31Shiberyeah, but not if my device is a Jukebox Studio
16:19:32ShiberAFAIK
16:19:54c0uttayou're correct - not the studio
16:21:52Shiberwell, thanks for the help anyway
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16:42:57Erl_I looked at older logs, and it sounded like the CPU specs had been requested from Telechips/Samsung...
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18:11:25ZhanShiHi
18:11:38ZhanShiI've recently ordered a Archos 20 GB USB 2.0 MP3 Jukebox Recorder
18:12:00ZhanShiI want to do the 8MB mod
18:12:16ZhanShiI'm having trouble finding the chip...
18:12:47ZhanShican anyone help or atleast point me in the right direction....
18:13:35scott666tried google?
18:13:42ZhanShiyeah...
18:14:00scott666cant help you then
18:14:30scott666i dont know any more than google does
18:14:43ZhanShithanks anyway...
18:15:36ZhanShiI found one site but they want me to order $100+
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19:02:22kaboofaWhee
19:02:34kaboofaI started on my calculator plugin for Jukebox recorders
19:02:59kaboofaSo far I have plugin_start and do_math done :)
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19:05:46kaboofaSo yeah, none of you worry about a calculator plugin...
19:05:56kaboofaCause the big T funk is getting it done
19:06:02kaboofa(like duffman) oooooh yeaaaah
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19:14:14kaboofaHi.
19:14:29yeftcan anyone help me with converting avi to rvf?
19:14:52kaboofaI can't :X sorry man.
19:14:58kaboofaSomeone else might be able to.
19:15:04kaboofaDid you try the mailing list?
19:15:09yefthah lookslike its me and you right now
19:15:19yeftnah
19:15:21yeftbut i hate that
19:15:29yefti used to get about 6000 emails a day
19:15:46kaboofaI get about 60 a day.
19:19:21yeftyeah something like that
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19:32:45yeftscotty robbie?
19:32:55yeftcan either of you help me with avi to rvf
19:34:30kaboofableh
19:34:33kaboofamy code is farking up
19:34:40kaboofatime to look at lcd.h to see what i'm doing wrong
19:35:01scott666_yeft: using the GUI?
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19:35:12yeftyeah
19:35:32scott666what are you confused about?
19:35:55yeftwhen i tried with the gui i got a repeating message in the first thing something like pp 0 0.00000 ms (o something)
19:36:04yeftand then it terminates
19:36:10yeftso im trying with directshow...
19:36:25yeftseems to be working... but how long do they usually take to converT?
19:37:08yeftheh this is ironic cause not to far in the future im going to a PVP anyway
19:39:40kaboofaweirdness
19:39:51kaboofa../../apps/plugins/helloworld.c:42: error: too many arguments to function `lcd_p
19:39:54kaboofautsxy'
19:39:58kaboofabut...
19:40:08kaboofa42: lcd_putsxy(0,0,"RockCalc v.1", "rockbox_default");
19:40:26CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
19:40:26*kaboofa shakes fist
19:45:25yeftwell..my progress bar is done
19:45:40yeftwhat is the usual avi file size to rvf file size ratio?
19:47:19kaboofafrom this furutama episode i downloaded, it looks like it's around 1:1
19:47:30kaboofaI havn't played it yet, however.
19:48:51yeftheh then im probably halfway done
19:50:52yefthttp://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/root/05180
19:50:57yeftwhat do you think of those?
19:53:14webmindnice
19:53:24webminddoes anyone know any small ones
19:53:32yeftheadphones
19:53:33yeft?
19:54:14kaboofaugh
19:54:16kaboofai'm such a moron
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19:54:50dwihnoSony EX71
19:55:03yefthttp://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/root/products_headphones_streetwear
19:55:05dwihnoQuite affordable. Terrific sound.
19:55:08webmindhttp://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/root/04924
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19:55:12webmindthose are nice
19:55:47yeftfor noise cancelling
19:56:04webminddwihno, u like sennheiser... but do u got an url ?
19:56:04yefttheyre like 1/3 the price of the quiet comfort...and do the same job
19:56:26dwihnowebmind: For which what?
19:56:33dwihnowebmind: I got the Sennheiser HD570
19:56:40webmindsony ex71
19:56:53dwihnoA simple google will do.
19:57:47yeftmy next headphones are gonna be noise-cancelling
19:58:08webmindok
19:58:20webmindyeft, check the url i gave
19:58:59yeftyeah i know
19:59:02yefti was looking at those
19:59:09yeftthey are ~ 120 right?
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20:01:49yefthas anyone heard of the Taz ?
20:02:25yeftfrom tight systems
20:02:36yefthttp://www.tightsystems.com
20:02:40yeftits a beast of a PVP
20:02:44webmindfokking hell.. 201 euro
20:03:30yeft130 us at amazon
20:03:42webmindnice
20:06:17yeftcreeping up on !:!
20:06:19yeft1:1
20:07:09yeftim still in awe that the it can play video,..
20:07:27yefteven though i havent been exactly successfull with it yet
20:08:00kaboofaI'm just happy it plays my collection of trance when i'm at work :)
20:09:14kaboofaand soon it will do simple arithmatic
20:09:51yeftcalculators arent exactly hard to program are tehy?
20:10:34webmindyeft, i hate that website
20:10:47yefthahah why?
20:10:51webmindand i'm happy with my archos
20:10:58webmindyeft, fucking flash only
20:11:06yefti didnt make it!
20:11:15yeftbut the specs are ridiculous
20:12:06yeftyeft.iconrate.net/index.php?p=6">http://yeft.iconrate.net/index.php?p=6
20:12:13yeftthat makes it a lil easier on your eyes
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20:14:38yeftehh...i need a usb2.0 card
20:14:50kaboofaSame here :|
20:15:33yeftheh they're like cheap
20:15:37yeftbut im way too lazy
20:16:28kaboofaI have no more pci slots open in my machine....
20:17:13yeftheheh
20:17:39kaboofalet's see
20:17:59yefttake out your usb?
20:18:02kaboofasound card, video card, lan card, lan card
20:18:25yeftwho needs sound
20:18:39kaboofaApparently I do...
20:18:45kaboofait's dolby 5.1 out
20:19:04kaboofamy train of thought derailed... i was working on my calculator plugin
20:21:19yeftheh theres 10 buttons you but thats kind of like a tease cause youll only be able to use 8
20:21:44kaboofa??
20:21:53kaboofano
20:22:04kaboofaI only need up, down, left, right, play
20:22:20kaboofa(i'm doing this for a recorder jukebox)
20:22:21yeftoh are you gonna have to highlight the number?
20:22:24kaboofayeah
20:22:31kaboofawhich is what i'm working on now
20:22:31yeftoh
20:22:39kaboofathat and the get_keypress()
20:22:45kaboofahmm
20:22:51kaboofai have to go to work now :|
20:22:55kaboofabe back in a few hours...
20:23:01yeftseeeya
20:23:08kaboofapeace
20:27:19yeftIT WORKS!
20:27:21yeftIT WORKS!
20:29:11yefti got rvf to work!
20:29:13yeftyEEEEEEEEEE HAW!
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23:38:23[IDC]Dragonamiconn: Hi again!
23:38:37amiconnHi
23:39:49[IDC]Dragonhave you experienced "missing voice" lately?
23:40:26[IDC]Dragonsomebody on the list has that problem, I had it just now as well, but can't reproduce it.
23:41:08[IDC]Dragonpb is that the box just remains silent where it should be talking.
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23:41:19amiconnNo, I haven't. But I have a question concerning file name spelling. I noticed that there are clips for the various file extensions, but they don't seem to be used.
23:41:46[IDC]Dragonthey are used for file numbers
23:42:00amiconnAh ok.
23:42:14[IDC]Dragonso it says "file eleven plugin"
23:42:38[IDC]DragonI think for spelling this would be confusing
23:43:15amiconnYou're right.
23:44:17amiconnMy experimental extended wav trimming produces way better spelling and number voicing for the natural voices.
23:44:33[IDC]Dragonexcellent!
23:44:55amiconnBut there is a slight "click" at the end of almost every clip _if_ after that clip the playback is stopped.
23:45:33[IDC]Dragonwhy only if stopped?
23:45:50[IDC]Dragonis it masked else?
23:46:51amiconnSo I guess this does not result from the end being not completely at zero alone. Instead, it may be that the mas "clicks" if the waveform is not at zero when stopped.
23:47:16[IDC]Dragonmaybe
23:47:18amiconnI will try to implement fadeout and see if it improves on that.
23:47:34amiconn(But probably not today)
23:47:37[IDC]Dragonbtw, what was your theshold?
23:47:48[IDC]DragonI've seen like 50 in amplitude
23:48:41amiconnI had a look into some clips how much noise was in there, it is sometimes more than 50, up to ~140. So I used 150
23:50:40[IDC]Dragonis that significanly low enough compared to the content?
23:51:22[IDC]Dragonamiconn: (But probably not today) Just 10 min. left ;-)
23:51:35amiconnYes it is.
23:52:16[IDC]DragonYou've been up quite long yesterday/today
23:53:17amiconnYup. This time I won't do that, though.
23:53:39[IDC]Dragontake a break, yes.
23:54:10amiconnI will be off the next 2 days.
23:54:12[IDC]Dragonimproved voice file to download, yet?
23:54:44***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
23:55:09amiconnGrr, that reminds me that I really should overhaul my web site.
23:55:47[IDC]Dragonnot tonight ;)
23:55:51 Quit workpc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
23:57:36amiconn(voice generation script is running)
23:58:00[IDC]DragonI'm using your grayscale framework now to scroll over an image
23:58:18[IDC]Dragoncleared out my bugs from yesterday

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