| 00:02:04 | Strath | sept ya croped the voltage regulator off the right.... which is fine, cause in the previous pics, it looked fine |
| 00:02:17 | vraa | great.. im an idiot |
| 00:02:29 | Strath | heh |
| 00:02:32 | Strath | :P |
| 00:02:33 | vraa | i'm not sure what a voltage regulator is |
| 00:02:39 | Strath | don't worry about it |
| 00:02:49 | vraa | oh ok |
| 00:02:49 | Strath | i got enough of that area |
| 00:02:53 | vraa | you sure? |
| 00:02:54 | vraa | lol |
| 00:03:12 | Strath | the SO8 is the regulator btw |
| 00:03:48 | vraa | sob is the regulator |
| 00:03:50 | vraa | son of a? |
| 00:03:56 | vraa | and whats the regulator |
| 00:04:04 | vraa | i'm a newbie at a lot of this stuff |
| 00:04:33 | vraa | black cylinder with tapeish substance around it? |
| 00:05:05 | Strath | the sufface mount 8 pin chip stamped "F7220" on it's lower right corner |
| 00:05:17 | Strath | thats just fyi... it looks fine |
| 00:05:54 | vraa | i see it |
| 00:05:58 | vraa | yeah it doesn't look like its blown |
| 00:06:54 | Strath | hrm... get me the front, same area, checking for overheating artifacts |
| 00:07:18 | vraa | k one second, gotta go scan it |
| 00:07:42 | Strath | interesting... looks like it has two vr's |
| 00:08:03 | vraa | VR's? |
| 00:10:06 | vraa | voltage regulators! |
| 00:10:11 | vraa | is that what VR stands for? |
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| 00:13:52 | midk | hi quelsaruk |
| 00:13:53 | Strath | ya |
| 00:13:56 | Strath | here |
| 00:13:58 | midk | and vraa |
| 00:13:59 | Strath | one sec |
| 00:14:01 | midk | and strathy |
| 00:14:13 | vraa | vraa.gotdns.com/sessi0n/IMG48001.JPG">http://vraa.gotdns.com/sessi0n/IMG48001.JPG |
| 00:14:17 | vraa | hi midk |
| 00:15:06 | quelsaruk | hi midk |
| 00:15:09 | Strath | http://www.donat.org/michael/archos/images/checkthis.jpg |
| 00:15:40 | Strath | hey mid |
| 00:16:21 | vraa | checking, am i looking for disconnection? blow ups? |
| 00:16:35 | midk | what is 112/3? |
| 00:16:46 | midk | 37 or 33? |
| 00:17:00 | vraa | 37 and a third |
| 00:17:05 | Strath | continuity |
| 00:17:09 | Strath | ohms |
| 00:17:15 | midk | 37 |
| 00:17:19 | midk | and what's 37+37 |
| 00:17:22 | vraa | 74 |
| 00:17:26 | midk | k ty. |
| 00:17:29 | vraa | im checking for continuity ohms? |
| 00:17:34 | vraa | no prob midk |
| 00:17:47 | midk | *designing rockbox logo |
| 00:17:50 | midk | sort a. |
| 00:18:07 | vraa | oh, good luck |
| 00:18:17 | midk | for a plugin |
| 00:18:18 | | Part scott666 |
| 00:18:20 | midk | *ahems |
| 00:18:24 | midk | no talky. |
| 00:18:39 | Strath | for that you'll need a dmm, (or the ability and knoledge to build one from household items) |
| 00:18:50 | quelsaruk | midk, don't you know that windows has a calculator?? ;) |
| 00:19:01 | midk | lol yes quel i don't feel like running it :D |
| 00:19:02 | quelsaruk | even your cellular phone has one :P |
| 00:19:06 | vraa | brb, im going to go get the multimeter |
| 00:19:10 | vraa | any specs i should look for? |
| 00:19:14 | Strath | ok |
| 00:19:35 | midk | *has no cellphone |
| 00:19:48 | quelsaruk | no? |
| 00:19:54 | quelsaruk | strange |
| 00:19:55 | vraa | i'll see yall in a bit then, i'll just get a generic multimeter |
| 00:19:55 | quelsaruk | :D |
| 00:20:35 | midk | out to buy one vraa? |
| 00:20:41 | Strath | voltage: ac, dc; resistance: ohms; digital display |
| 00:20:47 | Strath | vraa |
| 00:20:51 | Strath | got that? |
| 00:21:04 | Strath | should still be quite cheap |
| 00:21:19 | Strath | i myself, bbi10 |
| 00:21:23 | quelsaruk | vraa, and you will find that really useful in a lot of situations :) |
| 00:22:33 | Strath | mine cost only $200.... but then it is a Fluke |
| 00:23:28 | quelsaruk | $200 is cheap? |
| 00:23:29 | quelsaruk | ;) |
| 00:23:42 | Strath | heh... i didn't say *mine* was |
| 00:24:04 | Strath | for how much i use it though, i guess you can say it is |
| 00:24:06 | midk | lol |
| 00:24:15 | midk | nerdness. |
| 00:24:22 | quelsaruk | yeah |
| 00:24:27 | quelsaruk | like my earphones |
| 00:24:40 | quelsaruk | b&o ones |
| 00:24:58 | Strath | heh, hey, it's saved me many times what i payed for it by facilitating the repair of other devices |
| 00:25:09 | quelsaruk | expensive, but after 3 years listening to music nearly 3-4 hours daily... not so much, like the jukebox |
| 00:25:30 | Strath | ok... *now* bbi10 :P |
| 00:25:57 | quelsaruk | cu! |
| 00:26:05 | quelsaruk | and good night |
| 00:26:10 | midk | nite quel? |
| 00:26:11 | quelsaruk | vraa, i hope you can repair that |
| 00:26:18 | midk | nite quel. |
| 00:26:27 | quelsaruk | nite midk :) |
| 00:26:39 | midk | :D |
| 00:27:49 | quelsaruk | i hope it's easier than designing a industrial building made of steel... thanks god there's some nice software ;) |
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| 00:44:17 | Strath | heh |
| 00:44:22 | Strath | oy oy oy |
| 00:44:28 | Strath | ok, back to code |
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| 00:55:13 | midk | aww |
| 01:00 |
| 01:04:41 | jakesir | can someone help me find solder points to interface with PC for flashing?? |
| 01:04:56 | midk | you flash from the archos itself |
| 01:05:13 | jakesir | lol |
| 01:05:24 | jakesir | i know that but mine is screwed |
| 01:05:26 | midk | unless you mean you flashed wrong |
| 01:05:30 | jakesir | yeap |
| 01:05:33 | jakesir | i think so |
| 01:05:35 | midk | ah |
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| 01:05:52 | jakesir | so i'm building me a rs232 using max3232 |
| 01:05:52 | midk | i guess you need the UART boot mod... |
| 01:05:58 | jakesir | yeap |
| 01:06:04 | midk | well i know nothing about that sorry |
| 01:06:07 | jakesir | but i don't know the solder points |
| 01:06:17 | Strath | heh |
| 01:06:22 | Strath | oy... |
| 01:06:40 | jakesir | i have rs232 on bread board, trying to see if it works |
| 01:06:56 | Strath | ok, which hardware... *sigh* |
| 01:07:10 | jakesir | jbr2 |
| 01:07:11 | jakesir | v2 |
| 01:07:34 | Strath | i'm not completely familar with it |
| 01:07:42 | jakesir | let me show you |
| 01:08:12 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:09:18 | jakesir | that jpeg i'm sending, i have circled 3 for line in |
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| 01:10:23 | jakesir | DCC Send of fmrec_top_hires.jpg to Strath timed out |
| 01:10:31 | Strath | ya.. |
| 01:10:37 | jakesir | hmmm |
| 01:10:46 | Strath | i don't think my dcc works |
| 01:10:50 | jakesir | hmm |
| 01:10:57 | Strath | can you upload it, or email it? |
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| 01:11:08 | jakesir | i'll e-mail |
| 01:11:36 | Strath | my email addess you need? |
| 01:13:49 | jakesir | well, http://rockbox.haxx.se/internals/fmrec_top_hires.jpg look at this |
| 01:13:55 | jakesir | mine is almost same |
| 01:14:23 | Strath | it's gonna take a couple minutes to load |
| 01:14:37 | jakesir | heh |
| 01:14:58 | Strath | about the same as vraa's |
| 01:15:28 | jakesir | vraa?? |
| 01:15:51 | Strath | another person i've been trying to help |
| 01:16:06 | jakesir | oh |
| 01:16:14 | Strath | he(she?) run off to buy a dmm |
| 01:17:11 | Strath | is there any info posted bout it's rs232 capabilities? |
| 01:17:16 | jakesir | well, mine only works in rockbox |
| 01:18:10 | jakesir | i mean archos |
| 01:18:11 | jakesir | lol |
| 01:18:16 | jakesir | i wish it only works in rockbox |
| 01:18:18 | jakesir | lol |
| 01:18:27 | jakesir | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mods/rs232.html i'm building that one |
| 01:19:00 | jakesir | my problem which i posted earlier is ... http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2004-04/0774.shtml |
| 01:22:54 | Strath | ya.. i'l familar with the mod |
| 01:22:59 | Strath | er, i'm |
| 01:23:14 | Strath | one sec... looking for something |
| 01:23:19 | jakesir | ok |
| 01:23:33 | jakesir | great!! |
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| 01:28:08 | Strath | hrm... can't find it |
| 01:28:14 | vraa | guess who's back! |
| 01:28:23 | Strath | vraa! |
| 01:28:28 | midk | yay vraa? |
| 01:28:34 | vraa | with a multimeter too! :) |
| 01:28:41 | midk | yaysors. |
| 01:28:48 | Strath | i supose ya missed the last message from me |
| 01:28:57 | vraa | yeah lemme take shoes off and get the multimeter up |
| 01:28:59 | vraa | what was it? |
| 01:29:02 | Strath | when ya headed out |
| 01:29:04 | vraa | i just read everything from what i missed |
| 01:29:13 | Strath | k |
| 01:29:17 | vraa | <Strath> voltage: ac, dc; resistance: ohms; digital display |
| 01:29:29 | Strath | get that? |
| 01:30:26 | vraa | for 40$ it better have that |
| 01:30:33 | Strath | heh |
| 01:30:39 | Strath | well all should |
| 01:30:43 | jakesir | i got one here as well |
| 01:30:52 | midk | vraa it costed $40? |
| 01:31:04 | Strath | and the display thing isn't *absolutly* needed |
| 01:31:13 | jakesir | mine's digital and only ~20 |
| 01:31:24 | vraa | 42 range |
| 01:31:28 | vraa | well i probably got ripped off lol |
| 01:31:42 | jakesir | they have one at home depot |
| 01:31:47 | jakesir | or radioshack |
| 01:32:01 | vraa | i got mine from radio shack |
| 01:32:04 | vraa | crap i need a 9volt |
| 01:32:12 | vraa | oh man.. i think im gonna go to eckerds real quick |
| 01:32:12 | vraa | lol |
| 01:32:41 | Strath | ok... now where was it that i'd seen someone had put up full schematics of the archos JB? |
| 01:32:56 | jakesir | what's vraa's problem? |
| 01:33:00 | Strath | hehe vraa |
| 01:33:16 | Strath | dead JBR |
| 01:33:22 | jakesir | hmmm, i've seen that somewhere, let me check |
| 01:33:26 | Strath | not charging or somethin |
| 01:33:38 | jakesir | oh, that should be simple enough, right |
| 01:33:58 | Strath | found it |
| 01:34:09 | Strath | i may just be the "fuse" |
| 01:35:05 | jakesir | i'll trade my problem with his |
| 01:35:20 | Strath | and now that i found the file name, i found my locate copy |
| 01:35:26 | vraa | nevermind, i took one from my brothers R/C car |
| 01:35:33 | Strath | heh |
| 01:35:58 | jakesir | lol |
| 01:36:15 | vraa | so how do i use this mm |
| 01:37:11 | Strath | btw, and not that it matters, just fmi, what is your gender |
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| 01:37:16 | | Part Iain |
| 01:37:35 | vraa | male |
| 01:37:40 | Strath | sorry, so hard to tell online |
| 01:37:43 | vraa | lol yeah i saw that.. he(she?) part :) |
| 01:37:45 | vraa | yeah i know what you mean |
| 01:37:58 | midk | lol strathy wants to hook up with vraa now huh |
| 01:38:22 | vraa | do i plug in the two MM wires into what? |
| 01:38:27 | vraa | the black is -com ,the red is what? |
| 01:38:30 | vraa | lol |
| 01:38:32 | Strath | the nick ending with 'a' seemed feminin(sp?) |
| 01:38:43 | jakesir | red is either positive |
| 01:39:09 | vraa | either V.ohms.mA or 10A MAX plug? |
| 01:39:11 | jakesir | when you're checking for continuity, it doesn't matter |
| 01:39:11 | vraa | one of those two |
| 01:39:18 | vraa | is that what i am checking for? |
| 01:39:20 | Strath | doesn't really matter for that. btw, one sec, i found the schematic |
| 01:39:21 | vraa | lol |
| 01:39:47 | Strath | btw, does the dmm ya got check capacitance? |
| 01:40:26 | vraa | yes |
| 01:40:55 | Strath | great! :) |
| 01:40:58 | vraa | yay |
| 01:40:59 | vraa | lol |
| 01:41:03 | Strath | we may be needing that |
| 01:41:08 | vraa | see i have no idea what to do now |
| 01:41:25 | vraa | its one and its ready to measure voltage and its reading -160ish mV |
| 01:41:34 | Strath | look at: http://rockbox.haxx.se/schematics/rec_main.pdf |
| 01:41:37 | vraa | i have the red tip and black tip in my lap, not touching anything however |
| 01:41:38 | vraa | ok |
| 01:41:52 | midk | vraa if you get frustrated, i want you to know that (a) i still love you, and (b) it's fun to flip off your pc camera in case anybody's watching. |
| 01:42:40 | vraa | haha thanks midk |
| 01:42:41 | vraa | i think |
| 01:42:55 | vraa | sweet schematics! |
| 01:42:55 | vraa | lol |
| 01:42:55 | Strath | ya.. thats why i asked... was contemplating installing the java plugin to check out the webcam, but now... nevermind! :P |
| 01:43:01 | vraa | so how do i start |
| 01:43:02 | vraa | hahahaha |
| 01:43:12 | midk | *has ppl skills. |
| 01:43:53 | vraa | so uh, how do i get started with this multimeter? |
| 01:44:17 | Strath | well, first, corelate the schematic to the actual board, find the area of interest and start checking values |
| 01:44:33 | Strath | second: fix it |
| 01:44:42 | jakesir | lol |
| 01:44:43 | midk | HAHAHAHAHAHA. no. |
| 01:44:47 | midk | remember my tips vraa |
| 01:45:01 | Strath | *snicker* |
| 01:45:38 | midk | hmm i feel like i should tack on a (c) |
| 01:45:41 | midk | ok sure |
| 01:45:43 | vraa | i thought i should check better first? |
| 01:46:05 | midk | (c) if it gets altoghether overwhelming go ahead and smash a bit of the fm lcd... you won't notice it later on as long as you're blind. |
| 01:46:13 | vraa | ahahaha |
| 01:46:44 | Strath | too bad there is so much jpeg artifacts in that JBR pic on the rockbox site |
| 01:47:24 | vraa | i have no idea on how to corrolate that schematics to my board |
| 01:47:46 | Strath | thats why i'm doing it |
| 01:47:52 | jakesir | (d) trade your problem with my bjr |
| 01:48:07 | vraa | lol thanks strath |
| 01:48:17 | vraa | what problems do you have jakesir? |
| 01:48:30 | jakesir | you don't want to know |
| 01:48:39 | vraa | lol |
| 01:48:43 | jakesir | but, it's working great!! |
| 01:48:48 | Strath | heh |
| 01:48:55 | vraa | lol |
| 01:49:04 | jakesir | 'except, only in archo's mode |
| 01:49:23 | Strath | you only needed to build a hardware mod to reflash yours manualy, right? |
| 01:50:09 | jakesir | yeap |
| 01:50:22 | jakesir | i have the level converter |
| 01:50:42 | jakesir | just need to know where Rx, Tx goes |
| 01:50:47 | jakesir | i know the GND |
| 01:50:48 | jakesir | lol |
| 01:50:56 | Strath | ya... i got the parts to build mine too, just havn't got it done |
| 01:51:09 | Strath | ok!, i found the area of interest |
| 01:51:35 | vraa | sweet, i've been practicing on the jukebox5000 |
| 01:51:52 | Strath | just below the main IC, (center, 1/3 up from botom) |
| 01:51:55 | jakesir | well, i have two of level converter on my breadboard |
| 01:52:34 | vraa | did you rotate the pdf? |
| 01:52:37 | jakesir | one using two transistors, and one with max3232 |
| 01:52:39 | Strath | ya |
| 01:52:44 | vraa | ok so did i |
| 01:52:48 | Strath | check R7 and R8 |
| 01:54:00 | vraa | am i on the front or the back of the archos unit? |
| 01:54:30 | Strath | heh, determining that |
| 01:54:34 | vraa | oh lol |
| 01:54:51 | vraa | and i cant find R7 R8 on the pdf |
| 01:54:57 | vraa | oh wiat i lied |
| 01:54:58 | vraa | i found it |
| 01:55:07 | Strath | remember, the schematic is not laid out geographicly |
| 01:55:20 | vraa | yeah |
| 01:55:26 | vraa | i found R7 and R8 on the schematics |
| 01:55:35 | vraa | now i'm looking for N41ST84W |
| 01:55:41 | limbus | too bad I can't access that webcam due to my companies firewall restrictions. |
| 01:56:10 | vraa | why not? |
| 01:56:13 | vraa | because its java? |
| 01:56:21 | limbus | nope :8080 |
| 01:56:38 | limbus | only 80, 443 and 21 permitted for me. |
| 01:56:58 | vraa | i can change it to 443 fr ya |
| 01:57:14 | limbus | mhmm. actually, I should work |
| 01:57:23 | vraa | lol yeah that's a better idea |
| 01:57:23 | vraa | hahaha |
| 01:57:51 | limbus | and you should better head to fix your archos :-) |
| 01:57:59 | vraa | man i cant find that series of numbers ont he back nor front of the archos |
| 01:58:02 | vraa | yeah that's what im doing |
| 01:58:16 | vraa | i have irc on the top right hand of my screen and the pdf taking the rest :) |
| 01:59:23 | Strath | ya.. |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:36 | Strath | that is basicly the supply control chip |
| 02:00:53 | vraa | power supply control chip? |
| 02:01:02 | vraa | thats why it says disp LED right? |
| 02:01:51 | Strath | ok... lets lay some higher level ground work for review |
| 02:02:17 | vraa | sure, but i have no idea what you mean by that |
| 02:02:22 | Strath | heh |
| 02:02:44 | Strath | ok, reexplain the problem |
| 02:02:56 | Strath | in detail |
| 02:03:17 | vraa | my archos does not show any activity niether by plugging the ac adapter in, nor by battery |
| 02:03:26 | Strath | ok |
| 02:03:29 | vraa | initial thought was battery might be dead |
| 02:03:42 | vraa | i suspect that my sister used the wrong ac adapter which might have fried something |
| 02:03:59 | Strath | had it been working prior |
| 02:04:38 | vraa | yes infact i used it a day before that |
| 02:04:46 | Strath | ok, good |
| 02:05:05 | Strath | what happens if you do try charging it? |
| 02:05:16 | vraa | plugging the AC adapter in? nothing happens |
| 02:05:18 | Strath | (does it heat up?) |
| 02:05:32 | Strath | or rather did it |
| 02:05:49 | vraa | did it used to? nope |
| 02:05:51 | Strath | (ie, don't try now... :P ) |
| 02:05:57 | Strath | ok |
| 02:06:02 | vraa | i mean it got warm, but nothing really, everything i charged got warm |
| 02:06:21 | Strath | the indicator light never come on now, correct |
| 02:06:48 | Strath | right, (indicating normal behavior, the reason i asked) |
| 02:07:11 | vraa | correct |
| 02:07:31 | Strath | ok ok... hrm, well now that you have a dmm :) |
| 02:07:34 | vraa | before it totally went dead it started flashing rapidly because the archos went crazy to reboot itself randomly |
| 02:07:43 | Strath | check the voltage in the batteries :P |
| 02:07:53 | vraa | before... THAT, whenever i turned it on it just went straight into USB mode without anything even plugged in |
| 02:07:55 | vraa | ok how do i do that? |
| 02:08:08 | Strath | ya, low power dropout will cause that |
| 02:08:18 | vraa | just put red end on one positive terminal and the black end on the other positive terminal |
| 02:08:31 | vraa | or one red on the positive and a black on the other side of that same battery which is negative |
| 02:08:34 | Strath | that one uses the similar, but now quite AA's correct? |
| 02:08:43 | midk | anybody here on linux? |
| 02:08:47 | vraa | it quit AA's |
| 02:08:51 | Strath | yes mid |
| 02:09:00 | midk | strathy does bmp2rb work for you |
| 02:09:02 | vraa | i'm not sure what that question said |
| 02:09:07 | vraa | i dont have AA batteries |
| 02:09:20 | Strath | so the yes, touch one lead to one end, and the other to the other end.. |
| 02:09:29 | Strath | er... not quite |
| 02:09:39 | Strath | but first! |
| 02:09:51 | midk | strath: no it doesn't? |
| 02:09:56 | midk | or talking to vraa? |
| 02:10:36 | Strath | make sure the dmm is set in a range of ~1v dc |
| 02:10:41 | Strath | mid: vraa |
| 02:11:01 | Strath | i don't know the answer to your question at this time |
| 02:11:02 | vraa | http://www.newmp3technology.com/accessories.html#li-ion .. similair to the battiers i have right now |
| 02:11:22 | midk | heh what |
| 02:11:48 | Strath | heh.. ok, one sec |
| 02:11:57 | Strath | mid: no idea |
| 02:11:59 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK vraa |
| 02:11:59 | vraa | •Strath• i tried one positive and one negative and it said around 2.9 |
| 02:12:36 | midk | can you try it strathy? |
| 02:12:41 | Strath | ok, i gotta wait for the page to load |
| 02:12:59 | midk | vraa those work in your fm |
| 02:13:14 | vraa | yes they do |
| 02:13:21 | Strath | ok, so it's like a square thingy |
| 02:13:29 | vraa | right |
| 02:13:32 | Strath | ok |
| 02:14:18 | Strath | your reading is quite low |
| 02:14:33 | Strath | the jb will not function that low |
| 02:14:45 | Strath | (obviously :P ) |
| 02:14:47 | Strath | heh |
| 02:14:49 | Strath | ok, |
| 02:15:01 | vraa | so the ac adapter routes power thru the battery and THEN to the unit? |
| 02:15:05 | Strath | feel lok experimenting? |
| 02:15:15 | Strath | not exactly |
| 02:15:32 | vraa | then shouldn't the archos display activity when ac adapter is plugged in |
| 02:15:51 | Strath | that chip is also in handles charging |
| 02:16:09 | vraa | but we've verified the battery is bad |
| 02:16:20 | Strath | right, well thats where the experimenting comes in |
| 02:17:12 | vraa | cool |
| 02:17:19 | midk | *Waities |
| 02:17:48 | vraa | i am ready to experiment then |
| 02:17:59 | Strath | right, step two.... situate the main board where there isn't much danger of shorting something or it falling moving, sliping where you can examine both sides of the board without shorting something |
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| 02:18:32 | vraa | done |
| 02:18:39 | Strath | what we're going to be doing.... |
| 02:19:19 | Strath | and lets me get this laid out before you do anything, cause this could potentaily fry something |
| 02:19:46 | vraa | i understand |
| 02:20:13 | Strath | familarize yourself with the contacts componets and traces arond the adapter port and what they connect to |
| 02:20:48 | Strath | (on going activity throughout the proceedure) |
| 02:21:06 | vraa | so i should be looking at the back of the archos? |
| 02:21:37 | Strath | we're going to be connecting the ac adapter and finding at what point the voltage stops |
| 02:21:46 | Strath | both sides |
| 02:21:50 | vraa | oh ok |
| 02:22:19 | vraa | i am ready |
| 02:22:35 | Strath | i believe it is a multi layer board so there are some traces not on the surfaces |
| 02:22:54 | vraa | that would make sense |
| 02:22:57 | Strath | ok, you do now have the correct adapter? |
| 02:23:02 | vraa | yessir |
| 02:23:05 | Strath | heh |
| 02:23:12 | Strath | ok, then... |
| 02:23:13 | vraa | i'm in my room now :) |
| 02:23:16 | Strath | get to it |
| 02:23:21 | vraa | plug it in? |
| 02:23:29 | Strath | wait a sec.. |
| 02:23:33 | vraa | sure |
| 02:23:46 | Strath | besides the main board, what is there? |
| 02:24:01 | Strath | the hdd and battery? |
| 02:24:05 | vraa | like i have all the parts i took off |
| 02:24:11 | vraa | yeah and the bottom housing |
| 02:24:15 | Strath | or is there a daughter board? |
| 02:24:23 | vraa | no daughter board |
| 02:24:34 | Strath | good good.... like the gmini |
| 02:25:12 | Strath | btw, take a look (if you havn't) at http://www.donat.org/michael/archos/fuserepair.html |
| 02:26:15 | Strath | basicly we're going to be doing what i had to do prior to actually replacing the component which i found bad |
| 02:26:37 | Strath | ok, starting face down |
| 02:26:42 | vraa | ok |
| 02:27:21 | Strath | the side of the board exposing the acplug, the diodes, etc |
| 02:27:30 | vraa | right i am on that side |
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| 02:27:38 | vraa | the hdd would be on top and closer to me if it were on |
| 02:27:55 | Strath | do you understand the function of resistors, diodes, and caps? |
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| 02:28:01 | vraa | a little bit |
| 02:28:12 | Strath | ok |
| 02:28:15 | vraa | i know that they can explode |
| 02:28:21 | Strath | heh |
| 02:28:37 | vraa | i remember there being a big thing about melting resistors on motherboards i used to work on next to the power supply connecter (atx connecter) |
| 02:28:39 | Strath | caps more dramaticly than the others... :) |
| 02:29:09 | Strath | plug it in |
| 02:29:15 | vraa | ok |
| 02:29:22 | vraa | plugged in |
| 02:29:38 | Strath | first off, check that there is voltage across the plug contacts |
| 02:30:04 | vraa | the red stick on one contact and the black stick on another contact? |
| 02:30:06 | vraa | any order? |
| 02:30:15 | vraa | on the board itself i cannot see a + or - sign |
| 02:30:29 | Strath | not as long as you meter can handle it |
| 02:30:30 | midk | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee POP |
| 02:30:36 | BlooChip | lol |
| 02:30:46 | Strath | ha ha, funny midk |
| 02:30:53 | BlooChip | analogue or digital meter? |
| 02:30:56 | midk | wait what |
| 02:31:04 | Strath | digi |
| 02:31:05 | midk | i was re-enacting teh golden gate bridge sequence in the core |
| 02:31:09 | midk | what did i miss |
| 02:31:16 | Strath | :P |
| 02:31:16 | vraa | digital |
| 02:31:27 | BlooChip | you'll be safe, if you get them the wrong way around the number will be prefixed with a minus sign ;) |
| 02:31:42 | Strath | axactly bloo |
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| 02:32:08 | Strath | if so, swap em anyways |
| 02:32:12 | vraa | says 0 V |
| 02:32:17 | vraa | i tried both way |
| 02:32:19 | Strath | nice |
| 02:32:30 | Strath | ok, unplug the adapter |
| 02:32:37 | Strath | from the board |
| 02:32:38 | vraa | done |
| 02:33:06 | Strath | verify that it's pluged into the wall, or other source of line voltage :P |
| 02:33:11 | vraa | it is |
| 02:33:11 | vraa | lol |
| 02:33:14 | Strath | heh |
| 02:33:40 | Strath | measure the adapter's plug itself |
| 02:33:42 | midk | la ta la ta DA |
| 02:34:02 | vraa | just put both tips on the end of the ac adapter? like the part i actually stick in the archos? |
| 02:34:19 | midk | da da da da |
| 02:34:21 | midk | da dada da |
| 02:34:28 | Strath | one on the side |
| 02:34:40 | Strath | and the other *inside* |
| 02:34:42 | BlooChip | I missed the start of this - what is happening |
| 02:34:43 | BlooChip | ? |
| 02:34:50 | midk | go bc i love you |
| 02:34:59 | Strath | jbr not taking a charge |
| 02:35:05 | Strath | heh |
| 02:35:20 | BlooChip | presume you are checking the pse? |
| 02:35:22 | BlooChip | psu? |
| 02:35:27 | Strath | oh, i'm sure everyone is on the edge of thier seats |
| 02:35:38 | Strath | PSU? |
| 02:35:43 | BlooChip | power supply unit |
| 02:35:51 | Strath | basicly |
| 02:36:03 | BlooChip | lick it - lol |
| 02:36:07 | midk | LOL |
| 02:36:10 | midk | dzzzt |
| 02:36:12 | Strath | visual examination of the board turn up nothing |
| 02:36:13 | midk | "works" |
| 02:36:31 | BlooChip | is there power coming out of the the little psu plug? |
| 02:36:36 | vraa | one sec |
| 02:36:39 | vraa | i gotta eat dinner |
| 02:36:42 | vraa | im upstairs with pizza |
| 02:36:43 | Strath | i know... just going the most "proper" way |
| 02:36:47 | vraa | im not gonna touch anything though |
| 02:36:48 | Strath | heh |
| 02:36:56 | vraa | i haven't eaten since i got hom |
| 02:36:57 | vraa | *home |
| 02:37:17 | Strath | why not, grease is good for electronics :) |
| 02:37:31 | Strath | ok... then i'm gonna take a break myself |
| 02:37:40 | Strath | bbi10-15 |
| 02:37:53 | BlooChip | you pulled the JBR apart before checking the PSU was working? |
| 02:38:01 | BlooChip | l8r |
| 02:38:08 | vraa | lates strath, and thanks |
| 02:38:19 | vraa | well i knew the adapter was working |
| 02:38:25 | BlooChip | ok |
| 02:38:41 | BlooChip | v1 or v2? |
| 02:38:53 | vraa | i havne't officially checked however but it does power up my old archos |
| 02:38:57 | vraa | v2.1 |
| 02:39:16 | vraa | im not touching the archos for about half an hour because my hands will be greasy |
| 02:39:23 | BlooChip | sorry, v1 or v2 JBR |
| 02:39:32 | vraa | its a fm recorder? |
| 02:39:34 | vraa | im' not sure |
| 02:39:39 | BlooChip | fm? |
| 02:39:48 | vraa | Jukebox FM Recorder 20 |
| 02:40:33 | BlooChip | these things are known for bad battery fitting - you might wanna check that - but, as you say, NOT with greasy hands :) |
| 02:40:38 | vraa | i wont be able to talk for a while |
| 02:40:40 | vraa | im starting to eat |
| 02:40:41 | vraa | lol |
| 02:40:46 | vraa | yeah i did check that |
| 02:40:57 | BlooChip | spk soon |
| 02:41:06 | vraa | i will, one handed |
| 02:41:10 | vraa | super slow |
| 02:43:23 | midk | hey bc? |
| 02:43:36 | midk | how did you create your othelo main logo? the bmp code? |
| 02:43:43 | midk | the hex values |
| 02:43:45 | midk | bmp2rb? |
| 02:43:56 | BlooChip | by hand |
| 02:44:02 | midk | yow |
| 02:44:09 | midk | wait you converted it by hand? |
| 02:44:18 | midk | like the lsb and teh binary to hex? |
| 02:44:20 | BlooChip | if you squint enought you can read it off as binary and think in hex |
| 02:44:28 | midk | wow |
| 02:45:06 | BlooChip | write 0...15 in bin, and 0...F in hex next to it |
| 02:45:14 | midk | i know |
| 02:45:21 | midk | how to do it by hand |
| 02:45:29 | midk | bmp2rb is broken for windows though |
| 02:45:40 | midk | and i need it badly |
| 02:45:43 | midk | so i need a linux user |
| 02:45:56 | BlooChip | do it by hand, it's not that hard |
| 02:46:06 | midk | 112x64 is way too hard |
| 02:47:16 | BlooChip | lol |
| 02:47:47 | BlooChip | whats wrong with bmp2rb? |
| 02:48:29 | midk | 17:44:56 | <midk> bmp2rb is broken for windows though |
| 02:48:34 | midk | be right back |
| 02:48:36 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK BlooChip |
| 02:48:36 | BlooChip | [01:47] <BlooChip> whats wrong with bmp2rb? |
| 02:48:52 | midk | -> broken <- |
| 02:49:00 | BlooChip | then my help is: fix it |
| 02:49:01 | jakesir | i'll return in the morn for more hlep |
| 02:49:04 | jakesir | good nite |
| 02:49:05 | | Quit midk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 02:49:11 | | Quit jakesir ("—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 3515") |
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| 03:05:03 | vraa | pizza is done |
| 03:05:03 | | Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 03:05:12 | BlooChip | now the sex |
| 03:05:32 | vraa | uh sure |
| 03:05:33 | vraa | haha |
| 03:05:35 | vraa | but ... |
| 03:05:38 | vraa | archos first |
| 03:06:01 | BlooChip | ok, the psu works, the battery is in and secure |
| 03:06:22 | vraa | i gotta check the PSU "officially" |
| 03:06:29 | BlooChip | lol |
| 03:06:39 | vraa | i just put the red AND black tips on the tip of the adapter part that goes inside the archos? |
| 03:06:55 | BlooChip | no |
| 03:07:17 | BlooChip | plug it into the mains |
| 03:07:34 | BlooChip | and put the two wires on the little plug on the other end of the wire |
| 03:07:35 | vraa | done |
| 03:07:46 | BlooChip | one IN the hole and the other on the outside bit |
| 03:08:01 | vraa | oh ok |
| 03:08:02 | BlooChip | make sure both are connected securely |
| 03:08:04 | vraa | which color outside? |
| 03:08:11 | BlooChip | either |
| 03:08:13 | vraa | positive outside? |
| 03:08:14 | vraa | oh ok |
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| 03:08:27 | BlooChip | official Archos psu yes? |
| 03:08:43 | vraa | yah |
| 03:08:58 | BlooChip | then np - the polarity will be correct |
| 03:09:14 | vraa | -8.97? |
| 03:09:25 | BlooChip | yeah - that's good |
| 03:09:38 | BlooChip | (btw, you got the colours the wrong way round ;)) |
| 03:10:06 | vraa | then that means positive should be inside |
| 03:10:18 | BlooChip | all it will do is remove the "-" from the number |
| 03:10:52 | vraa | right |
| 03:11:10 | BlooChip | now - holding all that together with one hand :) .... wiggle the wire where it goes (a) into the little plug and (b) into the big black mains plug and see if the number changes |
| 03:12:47 | vraa | ok i didn't understand that |
| 03:13:06 | BlooChip | while monitoring that number - wiggle the wire and see if it's broken |
| 03:13:59 | BlooChip | the wire commonly breaks where it goes into the plug |
| 03:14:00 | vraa | it did change a little bit but that might have been because the tips were moving |
| 03:14:05 | vraa | but it doesn seem like its broken |
| 03:14:55 | BlooChip | what happened between the last time t worked and when it broke? |
| 03:14:59 | BlooChip | it |
| 03:15:29 | BlooChip | (honesty here is beneficial - it is a techie question, not an RMA question) |
| 03:15:38 | vraa | i think either (a) my sister used a different ac adapter or (b) the battery was drained too low |
| 03:15:47 | vraa | lol same thing |
| 03:16:00 | vraa | rma answer - i dunno i just bought it :) yeah right |
| 03:16:08 | BlooChip | :) |
| 03:16:28 | BlooChip | if (a) you've probably killed the charging circuit |
| 03:17:00 | vraa | that would explain why the voltage on my batteries isn't 4.2 but around 2.8-2.9? |
| 03:17:15 | BlooChip | "batteries"? |
| 03:17:43 | vraa | are you familair with the FM Recorders battery system? |
| 03:17:55 | vraa | its one pack, but it says 2 Lithium Ion recheargeable batteries |
| 03:18:00 | vraa | yes.. recheargeable |
| 03:18:12 | BlooChip | righty - no I have a V1 |
| 03:18:12 | vraa | i can take a picture if you want |
| 03:18:22 | BlooChip | nah, that makes sense |
| 03:18:27 | vraa | oh ok |
| 03:19:03 | BlooChip | I would have thought that 3V would be enought to get it to do something - ie. probably not (b) |
| 03:19:26 | vraa | i just plugged in the ac into the archos and checked the spots which touch the positive ends of the batter and i got 0.0 v |
| 03:19:32 | vraa | so something along the way is fried |
| 03:20:07 | BlooChip | you need one wire on _ and the other on +, both on one contact will not help |
| 03:20:33 | vraa | well there are no negative terminals i know of on the archos |
| 03:21:05 | BlooChip | hmmm - are there any photos of the guts on the net? |
| 03:21:13 | vraa | i can take some if you want |
| 03:21:20 | vraa | and there are the ones from rockboxx themselves |
| 03:21:29 | BlooChip | url? |
| 03:21:35 | vraa | vraa.gotdns.com/sessi0n/">http://vraa.gotdns.com/sessi0n/ |
| 03:21:40 | vraa | all the jpg's there are my archos |
| 03:21:58 | vraa | http://rockbox.haxx.se/internals/fmrecorder.html is from rockboxx themselves |
| 03:23:15 | BlooChip | where are the two battery contact? |
| 03:23:17 | BlooChip | s |
| 03:23:39 | vraa | which picture are you looking at? |
| 03:23:42 | vraa | vraa.gotdns.com/sessi0n/DSC01327.JPG">http://vraa.gotdns.com/sessi0n/DSC01327.JPG |
| 03:23:45 | BlooChip | any of em |
| 03:23:49 | vraa | that is a good one for me to show you where the battery contacts are |
| 03:24:02 | vraa | there is one right about the blue wire thing... it is kinda yellow but you can see it |
| 03:24:29 | vraa | and then on the other side of the board near the usb and ac in.. you can see another clip that looks similair to the one on the right hand side (the one above the blue wire) |
| 03:24:36 | BlooChip | you must touch one wire to each of those contacts |
| 03:24:37 | vraa | those both touch the + side of the battery pack |
| 03:24:51 | vraa | i did red to the left and black to the right and i got no reading |
| 03:25:21 | BlooChip | hmmmmm, i wonder where - is then - i would have thought one of those to be - and the other to be + |
| 03:25:56 | vraa | same |
| 03:26:55 | BlooChip | got photos of the battery? |
| 03:27:09 | vraa | i'll take some now |
| 03:27:18 | BlooChip | try to get em in focus :) |
| 03:27:22 | vraa | no need for high res right? |
| 03:27:55 | BlooChip | so long as it's readable |
| 03:28:37 | BlooChip | are either of those contact loose - even a little |
| 03:28:53 | vraa | nope |
| 03:29:54 | BlooChip | what you really need to do is identify the charger chip and make sure current is going both in and out of it (two tests) |
| 03:29:56 | vraa | oh wow i found a LOT of pics |
| 03:30:07 | vraa | and i took one of mine |
| 03:30:12 | vraa | vraa.gotdns.com/sessi0n/DSC01337.JPG">http://vraa.gotdns.com/sessi0n/DSC01337.JPG |
| 03:30:13 | BlooChip | but I'm kinda out of my depth about there |
| 03:30:14 | vraa | i need to be more stable |
| 03:30:27 | vraa | http://www.angelfire.com/trek/archos/diagnosis.htm |
| 03:33:19 | BlooChip | can logic help you work out what DOES touch the (-) contact(s) on the battery? |
| 03:33:41 | vraa | my best guess is the rear plate itself |
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| 03:34:26 | BlooChip | bwtween tge + contact and the usb post is a diode |
| 03:34:40 | BlooChip | between the + contact and the usb port is a diode |
| 03:35:21 | BlooChip | the end with a stripe (think of as a long minus sign) is the - end |
| 03:35:56 | BlooChip | put the black probe on that, and the red probe on the contact - that should suffice |
| 03:36:05 | vraa | i see the diode |
| 03:36:06 | BlooChip | MAKE SURE YOU ARE ON VOLTS |
| 03:36:09 | vraa | but i do not see the stripe |
| 03:36:17 | BlooChip | http://rockbox.haxx.se/internals/fmrec_bottom_hires.jpg |
| 03:36:33 | vraa | oh ok |
| 03:36:41 | vraa | like a duracell battery, i was looking for some ink strip |
| 03:36:41 | vraa | ok |
| 03:36:52 | BlooChip | :) |
| 03:36:58 | vraa | which contact should i use? |
| 03:37:11 | BlooChip | try one then the other |
| 03:37:14 | vraa | k |
| 03:37:34 | vraa | lol i feel stupid |
| 03:37:39 | vraa | the ac SHOULD be plugged in right? |
| 03:37:43 | vraa | otherwise there is nothing passing thru the board |
| 03:38:03 | BlooChip | yes, the DC should be plugged - or, as you say, there will be no volts to measure |
| 03:38:30 | vraa | -7.6 ish |
| 03:38:35 | vraa | so they are getting power |
| 03:38:52 | BlooChip | MINUS?? |
| 03:39:03 | BlooChip | you put the black probe on the diode yes? |
| 03:39:05 | vraa | yes |
| 03:39:10 | vraa | black probe on the diode |
| 03:39:21 | BlooChip | hmmmmmm |
| 03:39:43 | vraa | negative 7.6 is solid |
| 03:39:57 | vraa | i just tried it again and that's what i got |
| 03:40:16 | vraa | should it be positive? |
| 03:40:20 | BlooChip | are the wires fixed permanently to the MM |
| 03:40:25 | BlooChip | ? |
| 03:40:37 | vraa | nope |
| 03:40:41 | vraa | but they are colorcoded |
| 03:40:45 | BlooChip | hm |
| 03:41:07 | BlooChip | that is quite imho - but I am no expert on LiIon charging systems |
| 03:41:15 | BlooChip | quite *weird |
| 03:42:05 | vraa | why what *should* i be getting? |
| 03:42:08 | BlooChip | vraa, i'm afraid that's about it for me - the final result is not what I expected, but there is SOMEthing going to the battery |
| 03:42:20 | BlooChip | which is possible good news |
| 03:42:32 | vraa | first off, i wanna thank you for taking your time lol |
| 03:42:39 | BlooChip | you are most welcome |
| 03:42:55 | vraa | yes i guess it is good news, strath said something about testing capitence, or something like that, do you know how to do that and what it does? |
| 03:43:32 | BlooChip | no idea why - capacitance is tricky to measure with a DMM |
| 03:44:27 | BlooChip | I would post your results to the mailing list and see if one of the gurus has any further advice |
| 03:44:53 | BlooChip | including your reasons for why it MAY have died |
| 03:45:24 | vraa | wrong adapter used, drained to battery level of 12 out of 100? |
| 03:45:57 | BlooChip | give them as much info as poss - but try to keep it technical - you could always mention that you worked on the problem on IRC, so if someone gets keen they can check the log for more info |
| 03:46:11 | BlooChip | is your sister likely to be honest with you? |
| 03:46:19 | vraa | well we're not on speaking terms anymore |
| 03:46:20 | vraa | lol |
| 03:46:23 | BlooChip | LOL |
| 03:46:26 | vraa | i'm not sure why she took my mp3 player in the first place |
| 03:46:29 | limbus | havn't you an opportunity to charge the battery packs somewhere else ? |
| 03:46:40 | vraa | i dont have another archos fm recorder |
| 03:46:53 | vraa | otherwise i would try charging it somewhere else |
| 03:47:15 | limbus | well, as long as it is a charger for Li-Ion in that power-range, I would give it a try |
| 03:47:19 | BlooChip | sadly LiIon systems are something I know VERY little about |
| 03:47:25 | limbus | cellular phone ? |
| 03:47:34 | BlooChip | theory is good |
| 03:47:40 | vraa | i dont have a cell phone, dad has a motorola v60 and mom has some sort of sprint |
| 03:48:00 | vraa | one sec, my intercom just went off i think my dads calling me |
| 03:48:48 | | Nick BlooChip is now known as BlueChp (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 03:48:48 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK BlueChp |
| 03:48:56 | limbus | lol |
| 03:49:02 | limbus | BlloChop ? |
| 03:49:06 | limbus | argl |
| 03:49:07 | BlueChp | lol |
| 03:49:09 | kaboofa | hmm |
| 03:49:14 | limbus | BlooChop <- was meant |
| 03:49:17 | kaboofa | i'm going to set my cell phone on fire. |
| 03:49:27 | BlueChp | good move |
| 03:49:31 | vraa | send me ur charger |
| 03:49:37 | kaboofa | NEIN! |
| 03:49:40 | kaboofa | ack |
| 03:49:42 | kaboofa | nm |
| 03:49:44 | limbus | hö ? |
| 03:49:46 | vraa | lol? |
| 03:49:54 | kaboofa | back to uh.. |
| 03:49:57 | kaboofa | whatever i was doing |
| 03:50:00 | BlueChp | nothing like sharing your portable microwave generator between your groin and your brain |
| 03:50:00 | kaboofa | yep. |
| 03:50:01 | limbus | vraa, maybe you (or somebody around you) has a real expensive battery charger where you can specify the type of cells and the number / capacity ? |
| 03:50:17 | vraa | i can ask around but i doubt it |
| 03:50:22 | vraa | i'll ask my friends |
| 03:50:31 | vraa | but we usually have different baseball bats |
| 03:50:52 | limbus | lol |
| 03:51:32 | limbus | in your specified case (a) you wrecked up something very bad. in the case (b) it's just an unhappy conincidence that would be fixed by charging the batt-pack |
| 03:52:33 | vraa | lol |
| 03:52:47 | vraa | so it *is* the battery's fault? |
| 03:52:57 | BlueChp | i would remain hopeful |
| 03:53:06 | vraa | me too |
| 03:53:25 | limbus | if somebody has a regulated power-supply, you could try that. (without connecting the ac power-supply of course, as it would try to charge the other power sipp) |
| 03:53:44 | kaboofa | you can always set the battery on fire |
| 03:53:47 | kaboofa | and see what happens |
| 03:54:00 | BlueChp | ....from a distance |
| 03:54:02 | BlueChp | lol |
| 03:54:03 | limbus | whut ? (mach' ich nicht verrückt) |
| 03:54:09 | vraa | regulated power supple? |
| 03:54:14 | vraa | im not listening to kaboofa anymore |
| 03:54:14 | kaboofa | no, fire! |
| 03:54:15 | vraa | haha |
| 03:54:20 | kaboofa | vraa: good choice. |
| 03:54:26 | kaboofa | i bitch about uh.. yep |
| 03:54:35 | kaboofa | oops :X curse word |
| 03:54:53 | BlueChp | don't worry - Hardeep swears every time he logs off |
| 03:55:16 | vraa | lol |
| 03:55:19 | kaboofa | yeah |
| 03:55:22 | kaboofa | i code and burn things. |
| 03:55:24 | kaboofa | it's what i do. |
| 03:55:26 | vraa | so until i find a regulated power supply i can't really do anything? |
| 03:55:36 | vraa | i code a little bit too, learning c__ |
| 03:55:36 | vraa | er |
| 03:55:37 | vraa | c+ |
| 03:55:39 | vraa | c++ |
| 03:55:41 | BlueChp | an alternate power supply (such as a regualted psu) would not test the battery or the charger ciruit |
| 03:55:44 | vraa | two time typos means something bad |
| 03:55:50 | vraa | what is a regulated psu? |
| 03:55:55 | kaboofa | i'm learning java, but only becausethey forced me to at school |
| 03:55:56 | BlueChp | not relevant |
| 03:56:12 | BlueChp | reg psu: not relevant |
| 03:56:17 | kaboofa | g'nite. |
| 03:56:18 | vraa | oh ok |
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| 03:56:31 | BlueChp | nite boofy |
| 03:56:50 | vraa | nite man |
| 03:56:52 | limbus | a regulated power supply would let you 'configure' it to 4.2V (what should be equal to your batt-pack) |
| 03:57:06 | BlueChp | how would it help though? |
| 03:57:06 | limbus | g n8, kabuff |
| 03:57:34 | limbus | it would show that the archos is still able to work, to function. |
| 03:57:57 | BlueChp | I think that the problem is either the battery or the charger circuit |
| 03:58:07 | limbus | would be possible to boot archos, then switch to the original battery pack once all is up. |
| 03:58:25 | BlueChp | that would be impressive to watch |
| 03:58:52 | vraa | a battery wouldn't be considered a capacitator right? |
| 03:58:57 | BlueChp | I reckon you would have about 20mS tops to make the switch |
| 03:59:08 | vraa | 20mS.. i can do that i'm pretty sure |
| 03:59:22 | limbus | heh ? why |
| 03:59:29 | BlueChp | i suppose you could call a battery a glorified cap |
| 03:59:35 | vraa | baseball.. lol |
| 03:59:43 | BlueChp | otherwise the unit would power off and you're back to square one |
| 04:00 |
| 04:00:24 | vraa | well it says that if i wanna measure capitanence i put the black on the negative and red on positive and switch the unit to the ohms thing, and press select a few times and then see what the dmm says |
| 04:00:32 | limbus | having both connected for a few seconds should not waste anything |
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| 04:01:06 | BlueChp | you're planning to pump 9v into a 4v regulated cicuit - jmmmmm |
| 04:01:16 | limbus | nooooo |
| 04:01:22 | limbus | not the archos power supply. |
| 04:01:23 | vraa | thats bad? |
| 04:01:29 | vraa | no not the archos powersupply |
| 04:01:31 | vraa | into the battery |
| 04:02:01 | BlueChp | i'm going back to my code - vraa, I suggest an expert is your next stop - l8rz |
| 04:02:09 | limbus | I mean a professional power supply where you can say "hey dude, give me some clean 4.2 Volt, no hassle" |
| 04:02:21 | vraa | lates bluechip, thanks man |
| 04:02:27 | vraa | radio shack? |
| 04:02:47 | limbus | wait, I'll try to find something trhough google to be sure using the right terms and all |
| 04:02:53 | vraa | ok |
| 04:07:45 | limbus | well, found one, but the website is toooo bad, so unable to pass you on link. i'll have to GUIDE you there. |
| 04:07:49 | limbus | www.velleman.be |
| 04:08:07 | limbus | then order code PSS2010 |
| 04:08:10 | vraa | lol done |
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| 04:08:31 | limbus | or ADAPTERS & POWER SUPPLIES > DIGITAL SWITCHING LAB POWER SUPPLIES > |
| 04:09:03 | limbus | this is a VERY professional one. (click on the img to get a clear view) |
| 04:09:22 | vraa | not in usa |
| 04:09:39 | limbus | well, that was meant as example |
| 04:09:52 | limbus | who writes such web pages does not deserve to sell stuff |
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| 04:10:26 | limbus | are you in the states ? aren't there those nifty "frys" electronic stores ? |
| 04:10:54 | vraa | yes but the closest one to me is an hour away |
| 04:10:56 | vraa | and i am 16 |
| 04:12:02 | limbus | argl. so it's not just an hour away. it's one hour plus some chocolate bars for mum to bring you to the train station plus the travel.... |
| 04:12:56 | vraa | well we dont really have trains here.. :) |
| 04:13:16 | limbus | ahh. the states. I recall |
| 04:13:22 | limbus | ok, just kidding |
| 04:13:29 | vraa | lol |
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| 04:15:05 | limbus | well, I'm afraid we reached the point where it is more valuable for me to go to bed - it's about 4:14 AM here around and I still have half an hour of german motorway to do. |
| 04:16:23 | vraa | wow |
| 04:16:27 | vraa | good night sir~! |
| 04:16:33 | vraa | and thank you very much for your time and help |
| 04:16:35 | Strath | ok, im back |
| 04:16:42 | vraa | hey hey strath |
| 04:16:48 | Strath | sorry |
| 04:16:54 | vraa | no worries man |
| 04:17:01 | vraa | we found out that i am getting juice to my connectors |
| 04:17:06 | Strath | any progress? |
| 04:17:10 | vraa | the battery however isn't powerful enough |
| 04:17:24 | limbus | ahh, the replacement cavalry, so I can go home |
| 04:17:31 | Strath | heh |
| 04:17:33 | limbus | vraa, you're welcome |
| 04:17:34 | vraa | haha |
| 04:17:38 | vraa | thanks once again |
| 04:17:45 | Strath | i think you were the replacement :) |
| 04:17:54 | Strath | thanks |
| 04:18:07 | z_man_barzel | sorry to bother the folks, but does anyone know anything about the "up button" bug? |
| 04:18:42 | Strath | (reading the backlog) |
| 04:20:01 | vraa | i wish i could help but i have no idea aobut the up button bug |
| 04:20:50 | z_man_barzel | The only thing I could find was some mention of it on the mailing list back in July. I sometimes get the F2 or F1 menu when I press the Up button |
| 04:21:18 | limbus | any bug report about that ? |
| 04:21:50 | z_man_barzel | not that I can tell |
| 04:23:08 | limbus | then I would recommend you to write one, and try to get the mailinglist posters complaining about the same problem to add their comment |
| 04:23:46 | limbus | ok, gotta go now, off for tonight. |
| 04:23:52 | vraa | bye imbus |
| 04:24:20 | limbus | good n8/quit |
| 04:24:22 | limbus | argl |
| 04:24:26 | limbus | well, then |
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| 04:25:19 | Strath | ok, gotta get some juice for the kid |
| 04:25:27 | Strath | b*r*b |
| 04:25:35 | vraa | sure |
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| 04:28:42 | Strath | ok ok... |
| 04:28:48 | vraa | sup |
| 04:28:55 | z_man_barzel | thanks for the help, i'll see how it goes with the list |
| 04:28:57 | Strath | hows it going |
| 04:29:28 | vraa | just ticked that i can't get this fixed |
| 04:29:37 | BlueChp | 7.6 volts between battery contact and the neg side of a nearby diode when powered with no battery in place |
| 04:29:53 | BlueChp | MINUS 7.6V |
| 04:30:19 | vraa | yeah |
| 04:30:36 | Strath | ? |
| 04:30:38 | Strath | interesting |
| 04:31:05 | Strath | how about across the two battery contacts themselfes? |
| 04:31:14 | vraa | both are positive |
| 04:31:21 | Strath | uh.. |
| 04:31:39 | vraa | sorry i dunno why i said that |
| 04:31:47 | Strath | heh |
| 04:31:49 | vraa | oh the archos itself, both contacts are positive terminals |
| 04:32:02 | Strath | so there is a third? |
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| 04:32:23 | BlueChp | best guess: chassis ground |
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| 04:33:02 | BlueChp | best guess: chassis ground |
| 04:33:24 | Strath | sorry moz crashed |
| 04:33:29 | vraa | lol no worries |
| 04:33:53 | Strath | i didn't catch anything after my question |
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| 04:34:33 | BlueChp | [03:32] <Strath> so there is a third? |
| 04:34:33 | BlueChp | [03:32] *** Signoff: Strath (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 04:34:33 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 04:34:33 | BlueChp | [03:32] <BlueChp> best guess: chassis ground |
| 04:34:33 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 04:34:33 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 04:34:33 | BlueChp | [03:32] *** Strath (aopen@dgvlwinas01pool0-a249.wi.tds.net) has joined channel #rockbox |
| 04:34:33 | *** | Alert Mode level 4 |
| 04:34:33 | *** | Alert Mode level 5 |
| 04:34:33 | BlueChp | [03:33] <BlueChp> best guess: chassis ground |
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| 04:34:36 | vraa | Strath «aopen@dgvlwinas01pool0-a249.wi.tds.net» has Quit iRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 04:34:36 | vraa | <BlueChp> best guess: chassis ground |
| 04:34:36 | vraa | Strath (aopen@dgvlwinas01pool0-a249.wi.tds.net) has joined. «19 people» |
| 04:34:36 | vraa | <BlueChp> best guess: chassis ground |
| 04:34:36 | vraa | <Strath> sorry moz crashed |
| 04:34:37 | *** | Alert Mode level 6 |
| 04:34:37 | vraa | [9:33pm] <vraa> lol no worries |
| 04:34:39 | vraa | <Strath> i didn't catch anything after my question |
| 04:34:41 | vraa | c0utta «~c0utta@67.cust40.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au» has Quit iRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
| 04:34:43 | vraa | and we both flood the channel |
| 04:34:44 | BlueChp | lol |
| 04:34:49 | Strath | heh |
| 04:35:20 | Strath | thx, though looks like i only missed "<BlueChp> best guess: chassis ground " |
| 04:35:32 | BlueChp | corect |
| 04:36:00 | Strath | fyi, the metal taby things are ground |
| 04:36:47 | BlueChp | that explains the negative reading |
| 04:37:13 | Strath | unless |
| 04:38:43 | BlueChp | http://www.angelfire.com/trek/archos/arch51.jpg |
| 04:38:45 | vraa | ? |
| 04:38:52 | vraa | i checked that |
| 04:38:54 | Strath | how does the battery go in? soldered or pressr contacts? |
| 04:38:57 | BlueChp | tabs are + |
| 04:39:00 | vraa | pressed |
| 04:39:17 | vraa | my battery has a small foam thing on one side so it doesn't lean |
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| 04:40:41 | Strath | ok, now i see the third |
| 04:41:14 | Strath | the two tabs, closer to the EM shielding are the positive battery terminals |
| 04:41:36 | BlueChp | vraa.gotdns.com/sessi0n/DSC01337.JPG">http://vraa.gotdns.com/sessi0n/DSC01337.JPG |
| 04:41:40 | BlueChp | ...and the fourth? |
| 04:41:41 | Strath | the one in the center up an inch or so, is the third |
| 04:41:55 | Strath | only three, comman ground |
| 04:41:59 | Strath | er |
| 04:42:01 | Strath | common |
| 04:42:12 | BlueChp | not as the battery is labelled!? |
| 04:42:30 | vraa | third one i think just shields the battery from the base, not allowing contact |
| 04:43:48 | vraa | http://www.angelfire.com/trek/archos/diagnosis.htm |
| 04:44:38 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 04:46:04 | Strath | ? |
| 04:46:27 | vraa | http://www.angelfire.com/trek/archos/arch40.jpg |
| 04:46:33 | vraa | the third thing u were talking about? |
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| 04:49:43 | Strath | of course.. the one pic that didn't load |
| 04:49:53 | vraa | haha |
| 04:50:26 | Strath | yup |
| 04:50:51 | Strath | that should be the ground |
| 04:51:47 | vraa | so whats the synopsis (i think thats the word) |
| 04:52:10 | Strath | diagnosis? |
| 04:52:24 | vraa | well that would fix it |
| 04:52:32 | Strath | or persciption? |
| 04:52:34 | vraa | the word im looking for is like.. current result |
| 04:52:42 | Strath | summation |
| 04:52:52 | Strath | hrm |
| 04:53:00 | Strath | uh.. anyways :) |
| 04:53:13 | BlueChp | PREscribe ;) (sorry pet hate) |
| 04:53:58 | vraa | haha |
| 04:53:59 | Strath | ok, take a reading between each of the two + terminals and the third (two readings) |
| 04:54:22 | vraa | with the thing plugged in? |
| 04:54:25 | Strath | i know, i just am apethetic |
| 04:54:34 | Strath | ya |
| 04:54:36 | vraa | k |
| 04:55:11 | vraa | ok weir |
| 04:55:11 | vraa | d |
| 04:55:17 | Strath | heh |
| 04:55:17 | vraa | i stopped because i felt real real weird |
| 04:55:20 | Strath | ya |
| 04:55:25 | Strath | what? |
| 04:55:28 | vraa | my thumb was like. going zooomzooom zooom |
| 04:55:46 | vraa | try again |
| 04:56:19 | vraa | the thing goes crazy |
| 04:56:26 | vraa | like 350mV |
| 04:56:45 | Strath | ya measureing dc voltage? |
| 04:56:54 | vraa | yeah |
| 04:57:21 | Strath | how about the between the other contact and the third |
| 04:57:39 | vraa | same |
| 04:57:45 | vraa | it just jumps around erradicly |
| 04:58:00 | Strath | and between the two? |
| 04:58:21 | vraa | zerp |
| 04:58:23 | vraa | zero |
| 04:58:31 | Strath | ok, common + |
| 04:59:03 | Strath | it could be that the charging circuit is trying to guage the battery |
| 04:59:35 | Strath | whats about the highest you catch |
| 04:59:43 | vraa | let me do it again |
| 04:59:57 | BlueChp | does you DMM have "peak hold"? |
| 05:00 |
| 05:00:39 | vraa | i think so |
| 05:00:42 | vraa | it has a button called HOLD |
| 05:01:28 | vraa | no it doesn't |
| 05:01:34 | vraa | hold just keeps whatever was on the screen there |
| 05:01:54 | Strath | i'm inclined to agree about the board board itself being ok, but the battery fubar... not saying for certain though |
| 05:02:32 | vraa | .7 V is the max i got |
| 05:02:38 | vraa | 700~ mV |
| 05:02:47 | Strath | what would happens if you installed the battery now? |
| 05:03:00 | vraa | and try turningit on? |
| 05:03:20 | Strath | no. |
| 05:03:31 | vraa | ? |
| 05:03:44 | Strath | just set it in place, see that it is making good contact |
| 05:03:47 | vraa | check a connecter and the thing that gave me -7.6V ? |
| 05:03:54 | vraa | yeah its makes very good contact |
| 05:03:57 | Strath | then measure between + and ground |
| 05:04:11 | vraa | k |
| 05:04:12 | Strath | (with the battery still in place |
| 05:05:10 | Strath | does that model have the metal pieces that solder around the edges? |
| 05:05:11 | vraa | i get like -.1mV |
| 05:05:15 | vraa | and .4mV |
| 05:06:21 | Strath | ? |
| 05:06:44 | Strath | with the battery in place, i would expect higher |
| 05:06:47 | vraa | its almost within the margin of error |
| 05:06:49 | vraa | yeah me too |
| 05:06:57 | vraa | i tried again holding the battery tighter |
| 05:07:01 | Strath | heh |
| 05:07:03 | vraa | the ground is that duracell looking thing right? |
| 05:07:06 | Strath | question |
| 05:07:07 | vraa | next to the USB? |
| 05:07:09 | vraa | sure |
| 05:07:31 | Strath | well, the shielding around the usb is a ground too |
| 05:07:33 | Strath | ok |
| 05:07:58 | Strath | you measured the battery earlier, right? |
| 05:08:17 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 05:08:20 | vraa | voltage yes, negative being the back of the batter and positive being the front |
| 05:08:22 | Strath | what was the reading, and which contact across did you measure |
| 05:08:33 | Strath | heh |
| 05:08:35 | vraa | ? |
| 05:08:39 | vraa | heh? |
| 05:08:43 | Strath | ok |
| 05:08:48 | vraa | ok? |
| 05:08:54 | vraa | im confused!! |
| 05:08:56 | vraa | lol |
| 05:08:59 | Strath | it has two little contacts at the + side? |
| 05:09:03 | vraa | right |
| 05:09:12 | vraa | and the negatives it says are just the other ends of the battiers |
| 05:09:15 | Strath | and the other end? |
| 05:09:53 | vraa | two ends to the batteries |
| 05:09:58 | vraa | one is + other is = |
| 05:09:59 | vraa | er + |
| 05:10:02 | vraa | errr!! - |
| 05:10:03 | Strath | is the casing on the sides differ from the back? |
| 05:10:08 | vraa | right |
| 05:10:13 | vraa | lemme get a pic |
| 05:11:02 | Strath | thats ok... |
| 05:11:10 | Strath | i've just examined one |
| 05:11:14 | vraa | how? |
| 05:11:20 | Strath | a pic |
| 05:11:23 | vraa | oh ok |
| 05:11:34 | Strath | remove the battery |
| 05:11:38 | vraa | done |
| 05:11:45 | Strath | leave it plugged in |
| 05:11:52 | Strath | (adapter) |
| 05:11:58 | vraa | ok plugged in now |
| 05:12:23 | Strath | and measure between on of the + terms, and the shielding on the usb? |
| 05:12:30 | vraa | ok |
| 05:12:32 | Strath | er.. no '?' on that |
| 05:12:40 | Strath | heh |
| 05:12:42 | Strath | ok |
| 05:13:06 | vraa | .7 V on both contacts |
| 05:13:11 | Strath | ok |
| 05:13:32 | Strath | and with the battery in place? |
| 05:13:44 | vraa | unplug adapter? |
| 05:13:48 | Strath | nope |
| 05:13:53 | Strath | leave it on |
| 05:14:17 | vraa | same with like a .06 V increase |
| 05:14:28 | Strath | hrm |
| 05:14:32 | Strath | idea |
| 05:14:39 | vraa | ? |
| 05:15:03 | Strath | well, we need to get the - end of the battery involved |
| 05:15:11 | vraa | sure? |
| 05:15:20 | Strath | got a small piece of wire handy? |
| 05:15:35 | Strath | hook it to the usb casing |
| 05:15:35 | BlueChp | freezer bag tie |
| 05:15:59 | vraa | and then that to the back of the batter? |
| 05:16:07 | Strath | touch the other end to the back (-) of the battery, while measure ing the voltage |
| 05:16:24 | Strath | between the usb casing and one of the + terminals |
| 05:17:48 | vraa | adapter still plugged in? |
| 05:17:53 | Strath | yup |
| 05:18:16 | Strath | heh, how many hands do you have? :) |
| 05:19:47 | vraa | 2.9ish V |
| 05:19:52 | vraa | jumped to 3.1ish V |
| 05:19:54 | vraa | i have two |
| 05:19:55 | vraa | hahah |
| 05:20:01 | vraa | that was tricky |
| 05:20:43 | Strath | ok, so the battery was at 2.7 ish correct? |
| 05:21:10 | Strath | (by itself, removed) |
| 05:21:18 | Strath | .......? |
| 05:21:28 | vraa | the other contact was 2.9 |
| 05:21:30 | vraa | lemme check |
| 05:21:51 | vraa | 2.8 - 2.9V |
| 05:21:56 | Strath | ok |
| 05:22:05 | Strath | when did you get 3.1? |
| 05:22:18 | Strath | ok nm |
| 05:22:57 | Strath | it's within margin |
| 05:23:07 | vraa | to start? |
| 05:23:16 | Strath | no |
| 05:23:21 | vraa | oh haha |
| 05:23:27 | Strath | margin of wrror within measurements |
| 05:23:38 | vraa | crap |
| 05:23:40 | vraa | heh |
| 05:23:44 | Strath | ya... |
| 05:23:49 | Strath | oy oy oy |
| 05:23:56 | vraa | ? |
| 05:24:26 | Strath | well, we still havn't verified the poser getting in from the adapter plug |
| 05:24:49 | vraa | i thought we did? |
| 05:24:51 | Strath | wire the black dmm lead to the usb casing |
| 05:24:55 | Strath | no... |
| 05:24:59 | vraa | oh ok |
| 05:24:59 | vraa | continue |
| 05:25:07 | vraa | and the other end to? |
| 05:25:40 | Strath | you could still read 700mv from something fried, i've seen that much just in open air |
| 05:25:54 | Strath | other end to all around |
| 05:25:55 | vraa | crap |
| 05:26:00 | vraa | all around? |
| 05:26:19 | Strath | well, 700mv is kinda high for open air... but still |
| 05:26:37 | vraa | yeah i know what you mean |
| 05:26:40 | Strath | ya, start around by where the adapter plugs into it |
| 05:26:56 | Strath | (adapter on of course) |
| 05:26:58 | vraa | battery still in? |
| 05:27:04 | Strath | nah |
| 05:27:08 | Strath | forget the battery |
| 05:27:14 | Strath | not important |
| 05:27:32 | vraa | k |
| 05:27:41 | Strath | i think it's ok... just low |
| 05:28:01 | vraa | 8.72 acceptable V? |
| 05:28:19 | vraa | i get that from right on the end of the spot where the adapter plugs into |
| 05:28:23 | Strath | just poke around, following the voltage until it disapeers |
| 05:28:28 | Strath | ok |
| 05:28:55 | Strath | ya, before it gets to the regulator, you could see that high |
| 05:29:03 | Strath | make sure you only |
| 05:29:29 | Strath | touch one pad/trace/component at a time |
| 05:30:07 | Strath | (disregaurding the black dmm lead, as it remains wired to the usb casing the whole time) |
| 05:31:06 | BlueChp | nite all |
| 05:31:10 | Strath | good luck, i'll still be here, let me know what you find and we'll go from there (i have some code to write |
| 05:31:14 | Strath | nite bloo |
| 05:31:34 | | Part BlueChp |
| 05:31:37 | Strath | er, blue |
| 05:31:37 | vraa | nit eman |
| 05:31:44 | vraa | im not gettin any signal whatso ever |
| 05:32:21 | Strath | follow where the adapter socket connects to the pcb |
| 05:33:11 | vraa | i think i foundsomething |
| 05:33:26 | vraa | you said i chopped off the voltage reg thing |
| 05:33:32 | vraa | it was a socet with 8 legs? |
| 05:33:39 | vraa | right next to the usb part |
| 05:33:43 | Strath | me thinks |
| 05:33:58 | Strath | yesh |
| 05:34:19 | vraa | well on the opposite side of the board there is a big black socket with one big leg and three smaller on the other side of the socket |
| 05:34:34 | vraa | the two outer smal legs have 8.X V while the middle has only .700V |
| 05:35:13 | Strath | where at? |
| 05:36:24 | vraa | vraa.gotdns.com/sessi0n/DSC01325.JPG">http://vraa.gotdns.com/sessi0n/DSC01325.JPG |
| 05:37:53 | Strath | thats not the prob, but let me check somthin |
| 05:39:38 | vraa | k |
| 05:39:50 | vraa | imm gonna call it a night in five minutes |
| 05:39:56 | vraa | i have to get some alg II hw done |
| 05:39:57 | vraa | heh |
| 05:40:38 | Strath | ok... heh.. i still have a microcontroler final project due tomorrow that i need to start :) |
| 05:40:56 | vraa | go work on that |
| 05:41:01 | vraa | this isn't all that importatn |
| 05:41:04 | vraa | *important |
| 05:41:20 | Strath | hey, man... ya gots ta have tunes |
| 05:41:52 | Strath | i dug out my four extra voltage regs |
| 05:42:19 | Strath | pn: 34063 |
| 05:42:40 | Strath | ( i had to replace the one in my JB6000 |
| 05:43:23 | vraa | do i need to do the same? |
| 05:45:08 | Strath | i found the pics from my jb6000 |
| 05:45:16 | Strath | don't show crap |
| 05:45:34 | Strath | (october 2002) |
| 05:46:09 | vraa | lol |
| 05:46:53 | Strath | damn... thought i'd found another batch.. but its just a playstaion i modded for someone |
| 05:47:46 | vraa | hahaha |
| 05:48:02 | Strath | ya... only set i got... junk |
| 05:48:23 | Strath | i could scan one of the new ones |
| 05:48:28 | Strath | :) |
| 05:49:12 | Strath | you know what to do... i'll be around when you find the flawed part |
| 05:49:57 | vraa | actually im going to hit the sack |
| 05:50:04 | vraa | im shaking too much, i think its the coke |
| 05:50:09 | Strath | heh |
| 05:50:10 | vraa | im going to try again tomorrow |
| 05:50:12 | vraa | lol |
| 05:50:25 | Strath | well ya, tomorrow is my referance |
| 05:50:25 | vraa | once again i thank you for your help |
| 05:50:32 | vraa | then day after that |
| 05:50:39 | Strath | heh |
| 05:50:41 | Strath | no |
| 05:50:54 | vraa | day after day after that? |
| 05:50:59 | vraa | no matter |
| 05:51:08 | Strath | i was refering to the days to come until you get a good idea where the falt is |
| 05:51:12 | vraa | i'll still be in contact with you |
| 05:51:17 | Strath | exactly |
| 05:51:25 | Strath | luck |
| 05:51:29 | Strath | cya |
| 05:51:30 | vraa | thank you |
| 05:51:31 | vraa | bye |
| 05:51:50 | Ctcp | Ignored 3 channel CTCP requests in 1 hour and 36 minutes at the last flood |
| 05:51:50 | * | vraa is AFK, six hours of rockbox and i still have algII hw... such is life |
| 05:57:26 | | Join midk [0] (mk@ACC42A05.ipt.aol.com) |
| 05:57:51 | midk | hi all |
| 05:59:12 | midk | vraa did you ever get your problem fixed? |
| 05:59:12 | * | vraa is AFK, six hours of rockbox and i still have algII hw... such is life. Gone now for:«mins» (Pager is On, /ctcp vraa Page <message>) |
| 05:59:25 | Strath | nope |
| 05:59:38 | midk | strathy's so cute |
| 05:59:40 | Strath | left it for another day... |
| 05:59:56 | Strath | why? find a pic of me? |
| 06:00 |
| 06:00:05 | midk | no |
| 06:00:10 | Strath | oh |
| 06:00:11 | midk | heh i can just imagine it |
| 06:00:19 | Strath | figuratively, |
| 06:00:21 | midk | *googls for "please gimme a pic of strathy" |
| 06:00:58 | Strath | might actuly find one under my correct name if ya dig around enough |
| 06:01:54 | midk | *digs around at least enough |
| 06:02:23 | midk | *forgets Strath's name and gives up |
| 06:02:30 | Strath | heh |
| 06:02:51 | midk | *brute force attacks |
| 06:03:00 | midk | WHOIS strathy boy |
| 06:03:09 | midk | ah yes i remember now |
| 06:03:23 | Strath | you don't even remember my archos page? |
| 06:03:36 | midk | now i do |
| 06:03:43 | midk | but it has such a complicated link |
| 06:03:48 | midk | it has like 2 whole slashes in it |
| 06:04:00 | midk | at that point all i remember is its purpose, and forget the link |
| 06:04:14 | Strath | the domain? |
| 06:04:24 | midk | donat.org or .net... |
| 06:05:02 | midk | yes thats it |
| 06:05:07 | midk | donat.org/michael |
| 06:05:28 | midk | *demands more pix of Battery Guy |
| 06:05:33 | midk | hey he's gone! |
| 06:05:38 | midk | >:( |
| 06:06:21 | Strath | he's there |
| 06:06:28 | midk | only the first page of google results is relevant |
| 06:07:00 | midk | i don't see him! |
| 06:07:09 | Strath | ? |
| 06:07:16 | midk | where is battery guy |
| 06:07:32 | Strath | on my page i think |
| 06:07:35 | Strath | hrm.. |
| 06:07:45 | midk | it's not there. |
| 06:08:11 | Strath | maybe i uploaded an older page |
| 06:08:20 | Strath | ok... i'll go fix it |
| 06:08:41 | midk | he's so funny |
| 06:08:45 | midk | he's like >:| |
| 06:09:13 | midk | i need a high res pic of the lcd to replicate him |
| 06:11:03 | Strath | fixed? |
| 06:11:34 | Strath | mid? |
| 06:11:44 | Strath | reload |
| 06:11:49 | midk | not here... |
| 06:11:55 | midk | sec |
| 06:11:58 | midk | yes fixed |
| 06:12:14 | Strath | ok |
| 06:12:18 | Strath | good... |
| 06:12:21 | midk | hmm while it's charging he's constantly like >:| right |
| 06:12:28 | midk | and when completed he's like >:) |
| 06:12:30 | midk | er |
| 06:12:31 | midk | <:) |
| 06:12:54 | Strath | ya... updated an outdated copy, then uploaded it replacing the previous updated version |
| 06:13:15 | Strath | ya |
| 06:13:19 | midk | lol |
| 06:13:24 | Strath | thats what he does |
| 06:14:01 | midk | k ty |
| 06:14:07 | Strath | and i thought there was an even grumpier one, but i ran the battery all the way down and it was the same |
| 06:14:08 | midk | isn't he so cute |
| 06:14:19 | midk | LOL that would be HILARIOUS |
| 06:14:32 | midk | when it's really low he's like >:( |
| 06:14:49 | midk | and if it's 0% let's just have a middle finger icon |
| 06:15:56 | Strath | so, i hope you apriciate that I reduced the life expectance of the battery in my gmini, just to see if there was more of the battery guy's expressions, just for your enjoyment... |
| 06:15:56 | midk | strathy can you check if bmp2rb works on your pc |
| 06:16:23 | midk | reduced the life expectancy, how? |
| 06:16:40 | Strath | maybe another time.... i've got so much to get done before tomorrow |
| 06:16:48 | midk | ok no probs |
| 06:16:54 | midk | *cries |
| 06:16:59 | Strath | gotta run....afk |
| 06:17:08 | midk | bye then |
| 06:17:12 | midk | and yes thanks |
| 06:17:12 | midk | just for me |
| 06:17:13 | midk | i love you |
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| 06:42:29 | midk | seb |
| 06:42:32 | midk | ulb |
| 06:42:34 | midk | a02 |
| 06:42:43 | Sebulba02 | Um |
| 06:42:45 | Sebulba02 | Yes |
| 06:42:46 | Sebulba02 | ? |
| 06:43:11 | midk | do you remember me |
| 06:43:20 | midk | or was it not you that i used to talk to |
| 06:43:23 | midk | maybe it was strathy |
| 06:43:25 | Sebulba02 | Should I not? |
| 06:44:11 | Sebulba02 | Assuming you cropped your name. |
| 06:44:27 | midk | oh |
| 06:44:30 | midk | i cropped my name yes |
| 06:44:35 | | Nick midk is now known as midknight2k3 (mk@ACC42A05.ipt.aol.com) |
| 06:44:37 | midknight2k3 | oyah oyah |
| 06:44:39 | | Nick midknight2k3 is now known as midk (mk@ACC42A05.ipt.aol.com) |
| 06:44:41 | midk | oyah oyah |
| 06:44:42 | midk | see |
| 06:44:56 | Sebulba02 | yeah |
| 06:45:04 | midk | i'll make sure i record this as one of the downsides of changing your nick |
| 06:45:41 | midk | i missed you seb |
| 06:45:48 | midk | ulb |
| 06:45:49 | midk | a02 |
| 06:46:02 | Sebulba02 | Been horribly busy. |
| 06:46:40 | midk | i still love you seb |
| 06:46:40 | midk | ulb |
| 06:46:42 | midk | a02 |
| 06:47:23 | Sebulba02 | Err. |
| 06:47:43 | midk | yes seb |
| 06:47:44 | midk | ulb |
| 06:47:45 | midk | a02? |
| 06:48:07 | Sebulba02 | That would suggest you think I'm someone else. |
| 06:48:16 | midk | no no |
| 06:48:19 | midk | i love you for what you are |
| 06:48:22 | midk | even if you *are* ugly. |
| 06:48:37 | midk | (if you are it's a complete coincidence, and i'm horribly sorry) |
| 06:50:13 | midk | ooh jpeg artifacts! |
| 06:50:51 | Sebulba02 | Stuff happens, use png. |
| 06:51:05 | midk | *unearths artifacts and gives to museum. |
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| 07:06:29 | midk | any rockbox gurus here? |
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| 07:25:59 | RavenWorks | Heya... |
| 07:26:27 | midk | yo |
| 07:27:04 | RavenWorks | Thinking of buying an Archos... seeing Rockbox sold me on it, but I've just got one question |
| 07:27:07 | RavenWorks | does it do gapless playback? |
| 07:27:15 | midk | not itself... |
| 07:27:26 | midk | actually i think somebody got it to but it's not integrated (yet at least) |
| 07:27:51 | RavenWorks | so does that mean it'll do it with rockbox installed? |
| 07:28:42 | midk | no, not yet. |
| 07:28:51 | midk | you could bring it up on the mailing list |
| 07:29:04 | RavenWorks | I might... How big of a gap are we looking at, right now? |
| 07:29:04 | midk | somebody would probably tell you more and possibly code it |
| 07:29:13 | midk | a gap? |
| 07:29:17 | midk | well it plays the tracks seamlessly |
| 07:29:30 | RavenWorks | That |
| 07:29:31 | midk | but it won't "skip" any silence |
| 07:29:33 | RavenWorks | s what I meant... |
| 07:29:42 | midk | IE if you left a few seconds at the end it won't skip it |
| 07:29:49 | midk | but the track change is pretty much instant |
| 07:29:49 | RavenWorks | I meant like on an album where the tracks fade one into another. |
| 07:29:54 | RavenWorks | Awesome.. |
| 07:29:56 | midk | oh, should be fine |
| 07:30:24 | RavenWorks | Sweet. |
| 07:30:36 | RavenWorks | Man, I can't believe something this cool exists.. (rockbox) |
| 07:30:54 | midk | which model? |
| 07:30:58 | RavenWorks | I've got half a mind to ask if anyone's considered support for Playstation PSF files.. |
| 07:31:10 | RavenWorks | anyway, I should get going now, but this pretty much sealed the deal for me, thank you! |
| 07:31:15 | midk | heh |
| 07:31:23 | midk | no problem |
| 07:31:28 | midk | *breakout plugin on the way |
| 07:31:48 | RavenWorks | Hehe ^^ |
| 07:31:55 | RavenWorks | Take care everyone! THanks a zillion!! |
| 07:31:56 | midk | it features grayscale oyah |
| 07:31:58 | midk | if you have a recorder |
| 07:32:04 | midk | ok see you |
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| 07:36:22 | vraa | strath are you there? |
| 07:37:43 | midk | VRAA |
| 07:37:44 | * | vraa is AFK, six hours of rockbox and i still have algII hw... such is life. Gone now for:«hr 45mins» (Pager is On, /ctcp vraa Page <message>) |
| 07:37:45 | midk | i love you! |
| 07:37:59 | vraa | i love you too midk |
| 07:38:04 | vraa | but i must go to sleep |
| 07:38:07 | vraa | sorry |
| 07:38:07 | vraa | heh |
| 07:38:13 | midk | no |
| 07:38:13 | vraa | night man |
| 07:38:15 | midk | i looooove you |
| 07:38:16 | midk | dont GO |
| 07:38:22 | midk | ok fine bye |
| 07:38:27 | midk | *cheats on vraa with qwm |
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| 12:23:15 | ricflair | hi all |
| 12:23:17 | ricflair | anyone had any experience of the tca lyra audio video jukebox? |
| 12:26:38 | limbus | oh. didn't even know rockbox runs on any lyra device |
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| 12:29:28 | limbus | vraa, are you still fighting ? |
| 12:29:28 | * | vraa is AFK, six hours of rockbox and i still have algII hw... such is life. Gone now for:«hrs 37mins» (Pager is On, /ctcp vraa Page <message>) |
| 12:29:55 | Strath | heh |
| 12:30:00 | limbus | leet |
| 12:30:05 | Strath | nice one lim |
| 12:30:19 | Strath | (lyra comment) |
| 12:31:31 | ricflair | lol, im just wondering wether to get a lyra aswell so i can watch videos |
| 12:31:40 | ricflair | may sell my recorder 20 if anyones interested |
| 12:31:43 | Strath | nah |
| 12:31:53 | Strath | get an av3xx |
| 12:32:14 | Strath | heh |
| 12:32:19 | Strath | $$ |
| 12:32:42 | ricflair | more money though, is it that much better than the lyra |
| 12:32:53 | limbus | ricflair: selling an rec v1 or v2 ? |
| 12:33:21 | ricflair | rec v1 i think. |
| 12:33:24 | Strath | well, there is open source software already for the av300 series |
| 12:33:33 | ricflair | jukebox recorder 20 on the front and its blue |
| 12:33:40 | ricflair | is there strath? |
| 12:33:49 | Strath | avos.sf.net |
| 12:34:19 | limbus | has it the connectors on the left side or on the upper and lower bound ? |
| 12:34:29 | ricflair | upper and lower |
| 12:34:54 | limbus | that's a v1. can it be flashed ? |
| 12:35:13 | ricflair | yes, its allready flashed |
| 12:35:16 | ricflair | with latest rockbox |
| 12:37:08 | limbus | mhmm. sounds good. shipping from where ? |
| 12:37:11 | ricflair | what should i expect to get for it? would you guys reccomend ebay? |
| 12:37:12 | ricflair | uk |
| 12:37:27 | limbus | ebay would give you about 150 ¤uro |
| 12:37:39 | limbus | can't convert to punds |
| 12:37:56 | ricflair | thats about 110 pounds i think |
| 12:38:20 | ricflair | oh, its got a car kit with it aswell if that makes any differnece |
| 12:38:43 | limbus | mhmm. car kits are selling for 20 euro. bought one last week :-/ |
| 12:39:05 | ricflair | i can get a lyra for 220 pounds, would it be worth it? |
| 12:39:25 | limbus | no idea at all |
| 12:40:05 | ricflair | oh well , if you guys know anyone who is after one, let me know |
| 12:40:31 | ricflair | ill let yous know what i think of the lyra if i get one |
| 12:43:35 | limbus | ok, I gotta go for lunch, but I'll think about the buy-option. stay tuned. |
| 12:43:56 | ricflair | ok, cya |
| 12:44:02 | ricflair | im off too actually |
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| 19:29:03 | Hacman | Hi all - |
| 19:29:41 | Hacman | is anyone alive in here> |
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| 19:52:40 | kaboofa | heh |
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| 19:58:34 | hiroshi | can I talk with someone who runs the homepage of rockbox? |
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| 20:01:08 | kaboofa | uh |
| 20:01:11 | kaboofa | they are probably idle |
| 20:01:14 | kaboofa | but you can talk to me |
| 20:01:56 | hiroshi | who are you? |
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| 20:02:44 | hiroshi | I think Badger is the one that runs the site |
| 20:09:59 | kaboofa | i'm just some random guy :P |
| 20:11:26 | kaboofa | fucker |
| 20:11:30 | kaboofa | the cd is messed up |
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| 21:10:05 | McBill | anyone can help me with JBM20 hard disk problem? |
| 21:12:08 | McBill | Hello!!! anybody home?!! |
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| 21:16:59 | Strath | hrm... |
| 21:17:29 | Strath | i tried to connect a few minutes ago and got a message saying i was D-lined |
| 21:17:35 | Strath | no reason given |
| 21:17:39 | Strath | interesting |
| 21:19:50 | McBill | at last someone's talking :) |
| 21:20:24 | McBill | Strath : any idea about a good hard disk fixing utility for my JBM20? |
| 21:20:43 | Strath | "fixing" |
| 21:21:42 | McBill | get it fixed... sorry |
| 21:25:40 | Strath | i guess i meant... whats wrong with it? |
| 21:26:08 | McBill | oh... |
| 21:26:25 | McBill | to make some noisy click and clack |
| 21:26:38 | McBill | sometimes windows can not copy to it |
| 21:27:25 | Strath | head actuator shot, ya think? |
| 21:27:53 | McBill | I tried to format it but there is some blocks/clusters are bad and scandisk can not pass it |
| 21:28:27 | McBill | I need a tool which mark bad block fast without the need to test it million times |
| 21:29:27 | Strath | track 0 bad, disk toast? |
| 21:30:09 | McBill | no Track 0 is OK |
| 21:30:31 | Strath | might you conect it to an adapter to a pc ide controler and attempt repairs under linux? |
| 21:31:14 | McBill | do you know any tool in linux which can get the job done? |
| 21:31:23 | McBill | I have Knoppix and Mandrake |
| 21:31:36 | Strath | dd, cat, ... |
| 21:32:01 | Strath | maybe... |
| 21:32:11 | McBill | dd? |
| 21:32:38 | Strath | it's a data shuffleing command |
| 21:32:50 | Strath | i don't know the exact words |
| 21:33:23 | Strath | kinda like an advanced featured 'cat' |
| 21:33:45 | Strath | block size options, etc |
| 21:33:55 | McBill | I will see what I can do |
| 21:33:59 | McBill | thanks |
| 21:34:04 | Strath | oh.. i suppose you could try 'badblocks' |
| 21:34:08 | Strath | heh |
| 21:34:15 | Strath | forgot about that one |
| 21:34:43 | Strath | has multipass pattern read/write options |
| 21:36:17 | Strath | and much easier to use than 'dd' |
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| 21:39:02 | Neurosupherot | hii all |
| 21:39:23 | McBill | hi Neurosupherot |
| 21:39:45 | Neurosupherot | anyone has already used bmp2rb? |
| 21:40:38 | McBill | what is that? image converter? |
| 21:40:51 | Neurosupherot | i have tried but i dont know how to |
| 21:40:52 | Neurosupherot | yes |
| 21:41:51 | Neurosupherot | i dont know how to use it |
| 21:42:23 | McBill | what file types it support beside bmp? |
| 21:43:26 | Neurosupherot | just bmp monochnrome i think |
| 21:45:15 | Neurosupherot | and i have formatted my hdd |
| 21:45:49 | Neurosupherot | i dont remember where i downloaded the pack with cygwin, bash... |
| 21:46:09 | McBill | what did you use to format ur hdd? windows? |
| 21:47:42 | Neurosupherot | my computer's hdd |
| 21:47:51 | Neurosupherot | then i want to re download this pack |
| 21:48:03 | Neurosupherot | with cygwin |
| 21:48:16 | Neurosupherot | and in this folder, home, rockbox, bin, ... |
| 21:50:04 | Neurosupherot | i do not formatted the archos hdd but my computers |
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