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| 00:02:08 | LinusN | nice |
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| 00:05:25 | dstar | goota go guys |
| 00:05:28 | dstar | see you |
| 00:05:34 | pfavr | cu |
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| 02:03:22 | BC | anyone in with CVS access? |
| 02:03:35 | BC | (commit that is) |
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| 02:09:38 | midk | lol |
| 02:09:38 | midk | bc trying to slip in a quick update? |
| 02:09:46 | BC | no, got a cvs question - lol |
| 02:09:49 | BC | LMAO |
| 02:10:16 | BC | yes, i can see how that could be misconstrued - lol |
| 02:10:54 | BC | I've got a feeling that only SOME cvs changes make it as far as the rockbox page |
| 02:11:07 | BC | *web page |
| 02:16:31 | midk | lol |
| 02:16:31 | midk | *bc hands amiconn a few bucks |
| 02:16:36 | midk | "hey, do me a favor.." |
| 02:17:05 | BC | there was a "cash for questions" political scandal in the UK a while back |
| 02:17:12 | BC | this is "cash for commits" - lol |
| 02:17:41 | BC | the problem is that the sim libplugin support is in quite a state of flux at the moment |
| 02:17:43 | midk | LMAO |
| 02:17:56 | midk | amiconn's commit request line is now open |
| 02:18:14 | midk | midk> oh oh! clock update! $10! |
| 02:18:24 | midk | bc> audio 3587! L15!! |
| 02:18:29 | midk | l with line thing |
| 02:18:52 | BC | wtf? |
| 02:18:56 | BC | i with the line thing?? |
| 02:19:01 | midk | thpound sign |
| 02:19:07 | midk | pounds right? |
| 02:19:13 | midk | i don |
| 02:19:14 | BC | oh right - I thought it was a fancy L |
| 02:19:23 | midk | i don't know the... thing code thing |
| 02:19:24 | BC | any historians in? |
| 02:19:31 | midk | me me! |
| 02:19:35 | midk | pick me |
| 02:19:39 | BC | LOL |
| 02:19:43 | BC | LMAO |
| 02:19:53 | BC | Shrek 2 out next week :) |
| 02:19:57 | midk | lol.. now you say "hmm.. you'll do" |
| 02:20:46 | BC | Donkey IS your role model - LOL |
| 02:20:46 | BC | hmm... you'll do |
| 02:20:46 | midk | it was out last month |
| 02:20:46 | midk | wasnt it? |
| 02:20:46 | midk | hmm, more on this issue as it develops. |
| 02:21:01 | BC | being british sux |
| 02:21:34 | BC | it's why there is so much piracy over here - they wont let us watch the films until the US audience says "it's good" |
| 02:22:22 | amiconn | SOmebody's talking about me, hmm |
| 02:22:41 | midk | haahahahahAHAHAHAHA |
| 02:23:01 | midk | don't worry bc, you'll see it sooner or later |
| 02:23:04 | midk | just after me.. |
| 02:23:17 | BC | hey, ami, do all CVS commits get announced on the web page? |
| 02:23:20 | midk | they just want to make sure it's not to violent or mature for you |
| 02:23:23 | BC | key word being *ALL" |
| 02:23:24 | midk | LOL bc |
| 02:23:32 | midk | bc> no? no you say? |
| 02:23:41 | midk | *bc slips amiconn a twenty |
| 02:23:45 | amiconn | BC: yes (if there is no bug in the scripts) |
| 02:23:56 | midk | *bc slips amiconn a fifty to mess up the scrips |
| 02:23:59 | midk | scripts* |
| 02:24:40 | BC | amiconn: 've having a shit of a time getting my libraries compiling under todays CVS, but there seem to be no changes for that area of the code logged! |
| 02:24:44 | amiconn | The key thing is that they appear on the web page with a delay - every time a "bleeding edge" compile finishes |
| 02:25:09 | BC | I tried to sub to a cvs mailing list, but have yet to receive anything from it |
| 02:25:34 | amiconn | Iirc, the scripts check every 20 minutes (at 00, 20 and 40) if anything within cvs changed, then compile |
| 02:25:53 | BC | nice |
| 02:26:05 | BC | so 20mins worst case... |
| 02:26:39 | BC | ahaaaaa - and there it is - thank you :) |
| 02:26:50 | midk | lol |
| 02:26:51 | amiconn | (I didn't write those scripts, so this is guessed from observed behaviour) |
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| 02:26:56 | midk | that is not all bc wants i think |
| 02:27:08 | BC | amiconn: i like your mind ;) |
| 02:27:16 | midk | BC, you forgot to ask about merging audio 3587!! |
| 02:27:18 | billytwowilly | anyone know if there is a way to access an archos jukebox 6000 via an ibook? ie OSX? |
| 02:27:42 | BC | billytwowilly: afaik it is a standard usb hard drive device |
| 02:28:03 | billytwowilly | BC: I think you need a special driver in linux written by the guy who started rockbox |
| 02:28:08 | amiconn | ajb 6000 is not standard iirc |
| 02:28:41 | billytwowilly | I'm considering an ibook favourably, but if I can't get at my newly upgraded archos jukebox 6000... |
| 02:28:47 | BC | amiconn: 22:00 changes only just showed up, so I think 20mins is wrong |
| 02:29:19 | midk | umm |
| 02:29:19 | BC | billytwowilly: nothing in the archos.com drivers download area? |
| 02:29:25 | midk | 22:00 would be on the 20 minute mark |
| 02:29:38 | billytwowilly | BC: all for windows. That's why I'm asking here. Google has been unhelpful as well. |
| 02:29:44 | amiconn | Iin fact, all jukebox models with usb 1.1 use the isd-200 usb bridge, which needs special drivers. isd-200 is considered "unusual device" by the linux kernel usb driver developers |
| 02:30:24 | BC | billytwowilly: driverguide.com? uid: drivers pwd: all |
| 02:30:31 | amiconn | However, all jukebox models with usb 2.0 use the isd-300 usb bridge, which is usb mass storage compliant |
| 02:31:43 | billytwowilly | I suppose that's what I get for buying in early;) |
| 02:32:15 | BC | no luck at driverguide either :( |
| 02:32:22 | billytwowilly | bc: driverguide.com seems to only have windows drivers. |
| 02:33:08 | BC | geez - I'm starting to remember why I don't own a mac ....no drivers is a high price to pay for the priviledge of running NextStep |
| 02:33:08 | billytwowilly | doh |
| 02:33:29 | midk | nextstep? |
| 02:33:31 | billytwowilly | heh, I run linux on my desktop, but ibooks are more price competitive. |
| 02:33:39 | billytwowilly | aka OSX |
| 02:33:41 | amiconn | billytwowilly: It _may_ be that os x does include an isd-200 driver, though |
| 02:33:54 | billytwowilly | amiconn, hopefully I can try before I buy. |
| 02:34:07 | BC | tell the salesman his commission depends on it |
| 02:34:17 | billytwowilly | amiconn, I'll just bring it into the store to test;) Thanks guys. |
| 02:34:34 | billytwowilly | I appreciate the help even though it confirms that there is no info out there on my problem. |
| 02:35:00 | BC | yeah, sorry, but as you say, nice to know where you stand ;) |
| 02:35:16 | billytwowilly | well, I gotta go to work. cheers |
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| 02:35:37 | midk | AKA, "thanks a lot for giving me no information - bye now" |
| 02:37:14 | BC | http://www.versionchecker.com/php/search.php?mode=basic&action=search&str=isd200&plt%5B%5D=macosx&jumptoCat=0&x=0&y=0 |
| 02:37:21 | BC | well, if ever comes back ;) |
| 02:37:45 | amiconn | He simply should have taken a look at www.archos.com - there are ajb drivers for os x available |
| 02:37:57 | BC | lol |
| 02:38:15 | * | BC smashes his head against libplugin again |
| 02:38:27 | * | BC ...and cries a little |
| 02:38:47 | amiconn | BC: Don't do this, just tell me what's wrong with it. I don't have any problem compiling, though |
| 02:39:07 | BC | grab my graphics lib off my page ...and try to compile it |
| 02:39:26 | BC | you will need to remove the botch at the bottom of bc_gfx.h |
| 02:39:38 | BC | as this has JUST been fixed |
| 02:41:56 | amiconn | I get "bc_types.h: no such file or directory" ... |
| 02:42:09 | BC | you will need to download that also from my page |
| 02:42:19 | BC | just below the gfx lib |
| 02:43:48 | amiconn | Now it does compile without warning... |
| 02:43:57 | BC | for simulator? |
| 02:44:33 | amiconn | No. I don't build for the sim often, since most of my stuff doesn't work on it. I'll try it now |
| 02:44:49 | BC | cuppa T ...bRb |
| 02:49:10 | BC | any luck? |
| 02:49:49 | amiconn | Unfortunately not. "Blablabla ... sim_icons.h: No such file or directory" |
| 02:50:03 | amiconn | ...plus a few more |
| 02:50:04 | BC | that's the tip of the iceberg |
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| 02:51:22 | amiconn | I guess you'll have to ask Bagder why this broke... this is makefile magic |
| 02:51:45 | BC | yeah, but that means waiting another day |
| 02:52:14 | BC | I'm all up for the quick botch - especially as there is no point in me bothing to solve core problems any more |
| 02:53:56 | BC | i was hoping to finish klondike tonight, but i can't even compile any more |
| 02:54:26 | amiconn | It looks like some paths are not included if building for the sim |
| 02:55:04 | BC | sadly my makefile knowledge is weak :( |
| 02:57:55 | amiconn | Your gfx lib reminds me that i should split the grayscale lib as well |
| 02:58:10 | midk | go go bcbc |
| 02:58:24 | BC | ;) |
| 02:59:08 | BC | you will call everthing grey_blah, yes? |
| 02:59:39 | amiconn | No, to stay with my own convention it will be gray_blah |
| 02:59:50 | BC | lol |
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| 03:00:00 | midk | lol |
| 03:00:07 | BC | I have #define SPEAK_AMERICAN in Audio-3587 |
| 03:00:22 | BC | lol |
| 03:00:45 | amiconn | For another area: today I did some preliminary measurement of "yield() round trip time" distribution, with 0.1 ms accuracy |
| 03:00:57 | BC | and? |
| 03:01:12 | * | BC gets all eager |
| 03:01:34 | BC | is it worth the code overhead to only do it every-so-often? |
| 03:01:49 | amiconn | It should be possible to do a light organ by using a thread :) |
| 03:02:02 | BC | I ran Starfield again today, I was amazed at how quick it runs |
| 03:02:26 | BC | Oh coooooooooool |
| 03:02:47 | midk | i want to try starfield |
| 03:02:55 | BC | then download it! |
| 03:02:56 | BC | lol |
| 03:03:48 | BC | ARGH -dir.h is killing me! |
| 03:04:53 | amiconn | Round trip time distribution (measured without display changes): 0.1 ms - 32%, 0.2 ms - 65%, 0.3 ms - 2%, 0.4 and more - << 0.1% |
| 03:05:25 | amiconn | Longest time measured within a ~15 min cycle: 66.5 ms |
| 03:06:16 | amiconn | Anyway, tts |
| 03:06:34 | BC | tts? |
| 03:06:48 | midk | talk to you soon. |
| 03:06:54 | midk | maybe |
| 03:06:58 | amiconn | time to sleep |
| 03:06:58 | BC | aha - ok ami, l8rz dude |
| 03:07:01 | midk | oh yeah |
| 03:07:14 | amiconn | already 3:07 am here |
| 03:07:21 | BC | 2.07 here |
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| 03:08:32 | midk | hi bc |
| 03:08:38 | BC | hello |
| 03:10:24 | midk | how u. |
| 03:11:33 | BC | crying |
| 03:12:08 | midk | y |
| 03:12:42 | BC | libplugin & sim |
| 03:15:05 | midk | its ok bc |
| 03:15:16 | midk | i mean |
| 03:15:20 | midk | i would cry if i were you |
| 03:15:25 | midk | but i'm a lout tougher and |
| 03:15:28 | midk | lot* |
| 03:15:29 | midk | and smarter |
| 03:15:30 | midk | etc |
| 03:15:32 | midk | so it's ok |
| 03:15:37 | midk | i forgive you |
| 03:15:53 | BC | ahhhhh, he cares :) |
| 03:16:04 | midk | yah i do |
| 03:16:50 | BC | it makes all the difference |
| 03:16:54 | BC | no, really |
| 03:16:58 | BC | it just compiled |
| 03:19:35 | BC | well, one step closer anyway |
| 03:20:25 | midk | LMAO |
| 03:20:30 | midk | "no, really" |
| 03:20:39 | midk | wow −− i realize just how important i am here |
| 03:20:42 | midk | thanks for your help bc |
| 03:20:58 | BC | yw |
| 03:21:27 | midk | i realize where i lie in this path of life |
| 03:21:34 | midk | i am the cockroach under the camel shit |
| 03:21:41 | midk | hmm, maybe dung beetle |
| 03:21:47 | BC | and what shape IS that path? |
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| 03:21:55 | Fushen | hello? |
| 03:22:00 | BC | ooohhh - I feel a question coming on |
| 03:22:01 | BC | lol |
| 03:22:05 | midk | long and... sort of curved |
| 03:22:06 | midk | LOL |
| 03:22:07 | BC | hello Fushen |
| 03:22:08 | Fushen | >_< |
| 03:22:17 | BC | LOL |
| 03:22:19 | Fushen | i should.... just... go, huh? >_< |
| 03:22:40 | BC | no dude, just me being pretentious |
| 03:23:04 | midk | Fushen, he's always like that |
| 03:23:07 | Fushen | i was just wondering if it's possible to run the jukebox without having the cd... forgot it at home... |
| 03:23:14 | Fushen | is ok ;P i'm just a slow typer ;P |
| 03:23:22 | midk | run the jukebox? |
| 03:23:24 | BC | you mean transfer files? |
| 03:23:25 | Fushen | oh |
| 03:23:36 | Fushen | i mean, to connect it witohouet |
| 03:23:39 | Fushen | yeah |
| 03:23:43 | BC | what OS? |
| 03:23:46 | BC | what jukebox? |
| 03:23:47 | Fushen | winxp |
| 03:23:52 | Fushen | studio 20 |
| 03:24:00 | BC | yes, just connect |
| 03:24:04 | BC | and *bing* |
| 03:24:20 | Fushen | buy.. it says i need the cd =i |
| 03:24:24 | midk | you mean |
| 03:24:26 | BC | XP |
| 03:24:26 | Fushen | but* |
| 03:24:27 | midk | *bingBING* |
| 03:24:30 | midk | that's the noise ut makes |
| 03:24:38 | midk | press automatically find a driver |
| 03:24:43 | midk | it will go itself, it should |
| 03:24:50 | BC | hmmm, I wonder if this device is also an isd-200 |
| 03:25:03 | BC | if so, there are drivers on archos.com downloads |
| 03:25:03 | Fushen | no an "hey we discovered something in your usb.. now you gotta install it with the cd" pops up |
| 03:25:05 | midk | 20's are usb2 aren't they |
| 03:25:22 | midk | um, there is an option to automatically search i thought |
| 03:25:42 | Fushen | oh ok, so i'll just go and dl it from they're homepage then ^^ |
| 03:25:50 | Fushen | no usb1 |
| 03:25:51 | BC | hopefully |
| 03:26:03 | BC | i'd like to know for my own records too |
| 03:26:55 | BC | http://www.archos.com/download/drivers/arcusb.zip |
| 03:33:52 | Fushen | yaay, it worked, thanks a million guys! |
| 03:34:01 | BC | brilliant :) |
| 03:35:34 | BC | somk, did you try the new bcbuild - lol |
| 03:35:42 | midk | ha |
| 03:35:44 | midk | hahahahaha |
| 03:35:48 | midk | bcbuild |
| 03:35:52 | midk | HAHAHAHAHAA |
| 03:35:56 | midk | AHAHAHFAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH |
| 03:35:57 | BC | lol |
| 03:36:09 | midk | *lightning shoots from tips of fingers |
| 03:36:13 | midk | MUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA |
| 03:36:31 | BC | lol |
| 03:37:12 | midk | *shoots lightning at bc |
| 03:37:16 | midk | flee, kind sir. |
| 03:37:23 | BC | flea? |
| 03:38:01 | midk | FLEE |
| 03:38:04 | midk | as in, run away now |
| 03:38:20 | BC | not flea as in bite your ankle then? |
| 03:39:36 | midk | *shoots lightning at bc |
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| 04:53:55 | Fushen | well, thanks again guys and good night |
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| 06:58:32 | midk | hi bcbc |
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| 07:51:11 | BC | hi, i seem to have no flashy box, and no timestamping on! HM |
| 07:52:40 | BC | test |
| 07:53:04 | midk | hi |
| 07:53:09 | midk | hi bcbc |
| 07:53:11 | midk | BCBCBC |
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| 08:03:48 | midk | seeya all later |
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| 08:03:52 | LinusN | cu |
| 08:03:52 | BC | nite dude |
| 08:03:59 | LinusN | ah. missed him :-) |
| 08:04:06 | BC | lol - "sudden death" |
| 08:04:19 | BC | he got us both |
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| 08:04:43 | BC | finally got around to reworking the klondike code - :) |
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| 08:05:17 | BC | card game engine en route :) |
| 08:05:36 | LinusN | c00l |
| 08:06:57 | BC | hope bagder can fix the last of the libplugin issues :) |
| 08:09:05 | LinusN | i didn't really see what the problem was... |
| 08:09:26 | BC | some weird #define makefile stuff |
| 08:09:42 | BC | can't #include "plugin.h" from a libplugin |
| 08:10:26 | BC | managed to botch it and posted my results to the ml |
| 08:10:27 | LinusN | what happens if you do? |
| 08:10:42 | BC | errrr, from memory.... |
| 08:11:06 | BC | dir.h fails to define DIR |
| 08:11:33 | BC | you can see it for yoursefl if you donwload the starfield code and the libs |
| 08:13:07 | LinusN | oki |
| 08:13:36 | BC | as it stands it should compile, but if you look in bc_gfx.h you will see a big fat botch at the top of the file |
| 08:14:17 | BC | you will need the latest cvs :) |
| 08:14:25 | BC | (your words have been heeded) |
| 08:14:58 | BC | ...and may I thank you once again for the time you took to help me with that - I hope the transcript is as valuable to others |
| 08:15:24 | BC | I added heading on the version on my hompage - please feel free to take a copy of it, as you wish |
| 08:15:40 | LinusN | thx |
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| 08:56:31 | [IDC]Dragon | 'morning folks! |
| 08:56:37 | BC | mornin' |
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| 08:59:17 | adi|home | linus is there anyway to have the CVS/Root files get overwritten? some of mine are still pointing to sourceforge.. |
| 08:59:28 | adi|home | or am i better off to just do a clean pull from haxx? |
| 08:59:43 | [IDC]Dragon | clean sounds good |
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| 09:03:29 | adi|home | umm.. next stupid question :) |
| 09:03:49 | adi|home | i was added as a CVS account.. but i dont have a password.. is there some default that is set? |
| 09:03:57 | LinusN | adi|home: change the CVS/Root file in every dir |
| 09:04:22 | [IDC]Dragon | ah, yes, that's what I did, too |
| 09:04:29 | adi|home | yeah... i looked at that.. i was too lazy.. just doing a clean pull |
| 09:04:46 | LinusN | did björn give you a cvs account on rockbox.haxx se? |
| 09:04:54 | adi|home | nods |
| 09:05:13 | LinusN | you should have given him a password when he did |
| 09:05:16 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, you'd need a grep and replace tool, by hand it's too tedious |
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| 09:05:38 | adi|home | hehe failure on communicaiton there then :) |
| 09:05:46 | adi|home | i asked to maintain access.. he said sure.. |
| 09:06:04 | adi|home | ill drop him an emil.. no immediate rush |
| 09:07:25 | LinusN | he's here now, looking it up |
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| 09:08:47 | midk | yay i beat scott by 5 seconds |
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| 09:09:02 | scott666 | 01,0104lol |
| 09:09:03 | Kick | (#rockbox scott666 :Colourcodes are *not* appreciated here!) by logbot!~bjst@193.15.23.131 |
| 09:09:13 | midk | LinusN or bagder, as for the clock document, i can update that, correct? |
| 09:09:20 | midk | even if somebody else wrote it? |
| 09:09:26 | Bagder | midk: you can update anything in the wiki |
| 09:09:40 | midk | ecksellent<e with a line over it> |
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| 09:10:36 | Zagor | hi guys |
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| 09:10:41 | scott666 | 01,0104hey |
| 09:10:41 | Kick | (#rockbox scott666 :Colourcodes are *not* appreciated here!) by logbot!~bjst@193.15.23.131 |
| 09:10:43 | [IDC]Dragon | Hi |
| 09:10:53 | adi|home | id loose my head if it wasn't connected |
| 09:10:55 | | Join scott666 [0] (~scott@f08v-11-20.d1.club-internet.fr) |
| 09:11:00 | adi|home | so... far... behind.. |
| 09:11:00 | midk | gah |
| 09:11:01 | Strath | heh |
| 09:11:02 | scott666 | gah |
| 09:11:05 | Zagor | scott666: logbot doesn't like colors |
| 09:11:05 | midk | why is logbot opped |
| 09:11:05 | [IDC]Dragon | strike: scott66 did it again |
| 09:11:09 | midk | hi strath |
| 09:11:11 | scott666 | yes |
| 09:11:25 | Strath | hey mid |
| 09:11:25 | scott666 | i changed it but didnt hit 'apply' |
| 09:11:32 | Zagor | :) |
| 09:12:32 | * | scott666 is in france |
| 09:12:54 | * | Zagor is in shorts |
| 09:13:05 | * | Bagder is insane |
| 09:13:11 | [IDC]Dragon | since we have full core competence here: |
| 09:13:14 | [IDC]Dragon | Is everybody happy with my proposed directory sorting? |
| 09:13:15 | midk | *can't picture Zagor in shorts |
| 09:13:22 | midk | *pushes image out of head and gets back to surfing |
| 09:13:42 | [IDC]Dragon | (sorry for being too sane today) |
| 09:13:58 | Zagor | [IDC]Dragon: it looks fine to me |
| 09:14:27 | midk | where do i read about the proposed dir sorting? |
| 09:14:46 | [IDC]Dragon | I was wondering if sorting by type would be a good default |
| 09:15:00 | [IDC]Dragon | midk: in the mailing list |
| 09:15:01 | adi|home | and thats about as 'stamp of approval' as anything gets :) |
| 09:15:05 | midk | i like name |
| 09:15:25 | [IDC]Dragon | same types will still be sorted by name |
| 09:15:46 | [IDC]Dragon | but you're right, I'll leave it, to not cause confusion |
| 09:15:56 | midk | eh |
| 09:15:59 | midk | so my rocks are seperate |
| 09:16:03 | midk | and mp3's |
| 09:16:04 | midk | etc |
| 09:16:04 | midk | booh. |
| 09:16:27 | Zagor | midk: it's an option |
| 09:16:37 | [IDC]Dragon | only if you like. (why don't you?) |
| 09:16:38 | midk | yes, but default i think should be name |
| 09:16:42 | midk | just input, zagor |
| 09:16:48 | [IDC]Dragon | fine then |
| 09:16:58 | Zagor | midk: i agree, don't change default |
| 09:17:14 | [IDC]Dragon | are the dynamic file types also handled by the attr highbyte? |
| 09:18:43 | LinusN | midk: logbot is opped so he can kick people who use color codes |
| 09:19:07 | midk | i know |
| 09:19:14 | midk | but he usually isn't |
| 09:19:16 | * | midk suspects who opped him |
| 09:20:06 | midk | where's Stevie-O? i miss him and his autoreply |
| 09:20:11 | Zagor | [IDC]Dragon: yes |
| 09:22:44 | [IDC]Dragon | Zagor: so it count them up, one more for each type? |
| 09:23:01 | [IDC]Dragon | counts |
| 09:28:02 | adi|home | isn't it chanserv that has the channel information/settings? |
| 09:28:27 | midk | yes.. |
| 09:29:09 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: has your setting code caused any .cfg file incompatibility? |
| 09:30:34 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN: I hope not |
| 09:30:48 | [IDC]Dragon | at least certainly not intentional |
| 09:31:07 | [IDC]Dragon | anything reported? |
| 09:32:59 | BC | [IDC]Dragon: what's happneing with meg_next_track(), imho it has stepped the plugin interface |
| 09:33:31 | [IDC]Dragon | BC: see my posting |
| 09:33:56 | [IDC]Dragon | I removed, eh replaced it, thought nobody would use it |
| 09:34:00 | BC | [IDC]Dragon: you did not mention stepping, only the trisk of conflict with tsr's |
| 09:34:18 | BC | irony said it had to happen within hours of the change |
| 09:34:26 | [IDC]Dragon | BC: oh sorry, I was on the wrong function |
| 09:34:56 | [IDC]Dragon | I thought you meant mpeg_track_has_changed() |
| 09:35:07 | [IDC]Dragon | (or however it's called) |
| 09:35:14 | scott666 | hey BC |
| 09:35:16 | BC | hang on let me check, im also confused now... |
| 09:36:31 | BC | mpeg_has_changed_track() |
| 09:36:45 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN: you mean the latest posting from Carsten? |
| 09:40:38 | [IDC]Dragon | BC: yes, that's the one. Maybe we can bring it back for non-TSR use, |
| 09:41:18 | BC | might be nice to step-back in cvs so the interface is not 'broken' |
| 09:41:31 | Zagor | add a comment next to it in plugin.h |
| 09:42:22 | [IDC]Dragon | like: not for TSR background use! ? |
| 09:43:23 | Zagor | yeah |
| 09:46:45 | [IDC]Dragon | we don't know yet if it's doing no harm in the foreground |
| 09:47:19 | [IDC]Dragon | like, if returning to the WPS, the WPS not updating because the flag was reset elsewhere |
| 09:48:29 | Zagor | i don't think there is a problem. when wps starts, it always uses whatever id3 data is there. |
| 09:48:45 | Zagor | but your point is valid, it should be verified |
| 09:49:56 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: yes i mean Carsten's posting |
| 09:50:27 | [IDC]Dragon | I'll check. Right now my sim environment doesn'r work |
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| 10:04:49 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN: feel free to remove val2phys/phys2val now. ;-) |
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| 10:05:24 | LinusN | i'm working on it as we speak |
| 10:05:48 | LinusN | but it doesn't work :-( |
| 10:05:50 | [IDC]Dragon | ;-))) |
| 10:05:54 | [IDC]Dragon | ;-( |
| 10:05:58 | LinusN | it loads silly values |
| 10:08:42 | [IDC]Dragon | you did hemove my back and forth conversion, too? |
| 10:09:01 | LinusN | yup |
| 10:09:03 | [IDC]Dragon | remove, fourth |
| 10:09:38 | LinusN | i'll let you know when i find the bg |
| 10:10:24 | [IDC]Dragon | thanks |
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| 10:32:37 | amiconn | hi all |
| 10:32:43 | Zagor | hi |
| 10:32:53 | Bagder | hi |
| 10:32:53 | [IDC]Dragon | hi |
| 10:34:24 | LinusN | hi |
| 10:37:08 | amiconn | full house ;) |
| 10:37:56 | [IDC]Dragon | 5 musketiers |
| 10:48:12 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: As you did as earlier if the .cfg change didn't cause incompatibilities: I've compared a settings file written with the new code with the one I loaded, written by the old code. |
| 10:48:27 | amiconn | I couldn't find missing or wrong settings |
| 10:48:44 | amiconn | The order is sometimes a bit strange though |
| 10:49:37 | amiconn | However, I had a problem that _might_ be related to the new .cfg stuff (also to my hd upgrade as well) |
| 10:50:22 | amiconn | I reloaded all my settings from a .cfg file I saved before the upgrade |
| 10:51:32 | amiconn | The peakmeter settings did somehow not reload properly: It was set to linear instead of logarithmic, and both the minimum and maximum values were at their minimal settings |
| 10:52:16 | amiconn | (Don't know what these are in linear mode, as I discovered this after resetting to logarithmic, then both settings were at -89 dB) |
| 10:55:55 | amiconn | LinusN: Did you read the logs of friday? I reported that there is still a problem with rockbox started from flash if the hd is completely empty (very rare condition, though) |
| 10:56:31 | LinusN | oh, i missed that |
| 10:57:34 | amiconn | Friday, 21.28.29 # <amiconn> btw: The bug in Rockbox (booting from flash) when the drive is completely empty is still there - it says "panic! disk: null" and USB is not usable. |
| 10:58:02 | Zagor | hmm, shouldn't panic |
| 10:58:39 | Zagor | ah, on players it panics |
| 10:58:55 | Zagor | no, i'm silly |
| 10:59:15 | LinusN | we know |
| 10:59:48 | Bagder | it goes in the family |
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| 11:00:10 | Zagor | ah, we panic if there is no valid boot sector. booo. |
| 11:01:22 | [IDC]Dragon | can we perhaps go to USB mode before mounting the disk? |
| 11:03:58 | Zagor | yes |
| 11:04:00 | [IDC]Dragon | maybe even before ata_init()? |
| 11:04:48 | Zagor | possibly, but the tests in ata_init are useful |
| 11:06:42 | [IDC]Dragon | on a different subject: there are many postings about flaky button detection |
| 11:07:14 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: I guess this is because of how the button groups work |
| 11:07:26 | [IDC]Dragon | from the code it looks like the ADC is ampled only once to qualify a button |
| 11:07:33 | [IDC]Dragon | sampled |
| 11:07:35 | amiconn | I would suggest a different detection scheme |
| 11:07:48 | [IDC]Dragon | yes |
| 11:08:02 | amiconn | Currently, it check if the voltage is below some minimum, from high to low values |
| 11:08:08 | [IDC]Dragon | only qulify the button if the reading is stable several times |
| 11:08:11 | amiconn | s/below/above |
| 11:08:55 | amiconn | I'd change this to be valid only if the voltage is within some "window" to be qualified as a valid button press |
| 11:09:21 | Zagor | personally, i think the button errors are purely mechanical. it's very easy to force an f2 by pressing on the side of "up" |
| 11:09:28 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, this is another condition |
| 11:10:02 | [IDC]Dragon | Zagor: but if we check for stable values, it should be possible to avoid that |
| 11:10:35 | [IDC]Dragon | right now, we may sample the analog input at whatever transition |
| 11:11:02 | [IDC]Dragon | and immediately make a button reading from it |
| 11:11:04 | LinusN | for this, we need to sample the A/D more often |
| 11:11:07 | Zagor | we can't avoid it. the f2 button is physically pressed |
| 11:12:18 | [IDC]Dragon | ? |
| 11:12:48 | LinusN | <Zagor> personally, i think the button errors are purely mechanical. it's very easy to force an f2 by pressing on the side of "up" |
| 11:13:19 | [IDC]Dragon | then it's because of a switch making bad contact. |
| 11:13:47 | [IDC]Dragon | the voltage moves wildly, you may sample whatever reding if you look only once |
| 11:13:49 | Zagor | yes. those are hard to fix in software :) |
| 11:14:22 | [IDC]Dragon | think about voltage levels moving from one plateau to another |
| 11:14:50 | Zagor | those are pretty fast transitions, but yeah theoretically it could happen |
| 11:15:01 | Zagor | I don't think we are getting it though |
| 11:15:15 | [IDC]Dragon | in the intermediate, they may cross another valid step, but won't stay there |
| 11:15:38 | Zagor | and if you implement multisampling, how will you know it fixes a problem? :) |
| 11:16:03 | [IDC]Dragon | by releasing it into the wild? |
| 11:16:21 | [IDC]Dragon | and let people report if it improved? |
| 11:16:22 | Zagor | that's not very reliable testing |
| 11:17:17 | Zagor | if they can't repeat it reliably now, they can't say if it fixed anything either. |
| 11:17:19 | [IDC]Dragon | what do you suggest? |
| 11:18:32 | Zagor | i claim we don't have a sampling problem, and thus don't need to fix it |
| 11:19:02 | [IDC]Dragon | If Archos software seems to be better, it can be improved |
| 11:19:39 | Zagor | no, only if Archos software *is* better. |
| 11:19:42 | [IDC]Dragon | and sampling only once makes me wonder how this code works in the firstplace |
| 11:20:37 | [IDC]Dragon | (no offense) |
| 11:20:57 | Zagor | it works because the transitions are short enough to be irrelevant, i guess |
| 11:21:15 | [IDC]Dragon | pure chance, because nothing prevents an edge being taken as a button level |
| 11:21:53 | Zagor | chance and statistics are related, but not the same :) |
| 11:23:13 | Zagor | how many bad button events have you ever seen? |
| 11:23:41 | [IDC]Dragon | on my unit, a few |
| 11:23:52 | amiconn | Imho my suggestion to count only values within some window as valid may also improve it, with less overhead |
| 11:24:17 | Zagor | amiconn: isn't that what we are doing today? |
| 11:24:30 | [IDC]Dragon | I don't want to argue, but button debouncing sounds like pretty much standard to me |
| 11:25:37 | amiconn | Zagor: Iirc not. The current code simply checks if the value is above some threshold for every button of a group, from highest to lowest |
| 11:26:15 | Zagor | amiconn: ...which in effect is a range check for each button. what am I missing? |
| 11:26:45 | Zagor | [IDC]Dragon: debounce is used for interrupt-controlled buttons, to avoid multiple presses. we don't have that problem since we poll. |
| 11:26:51 | amiconn | This kind of "range checking" does not have gaps between valid readings... |
| 11:26:58 | Zagor | amiconn: ah, right |
| 11:27:45 | Zagor | all I'm saying is I am not convinced we have a problem. show me we do, and I'm all ears for a solution. |
| 11:28:11 | Zagor | I personally have never seen a report that cannot be explained by simple mechanics |
| 11:28:25 | Zagor | lunch, see you later |
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| 11:28:47 | LinusN | lunchtime |
| 11:29:00 | [IDC]Dragon | hmm, escaping it? ;-) |
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| 11:53:09 | lImbus | Hey Strath, there was somebody asking for Gemini -"support" on saturday (19.). His nick was Batman420. |
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| 12:07:39 | Strath | what kind of "support", rockbox, or "i have a problem, how do i fix it"? |
| 12:08:29 | Strath | nm... i'll check the logs |
| 12:19:35 | | Nick Zagor|lunch is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 12:20:20 | lImbus | Strath: he was asking if rockbox would run on his Gemini (I think he had a 220) |
| 12:25:49 | LinusN | Rockbox only runs on the older Jukebox series |
| 12:26:00 | LinusN | studio/player/recorder |
| 12:26:20 | Zagor | everyone in here knows that :) |
| 12:26:41 | Strath | heh |
| 12:27:12 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/twiki/bin/view/Main/NonArchos |
| 12:27:32 | Strath | ya... *we* know, any anyone who reads a bit would, but.... |
| 12:32:24 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: u there? |
| 12:35:56 | lImbus | Sorry Strath, I thought I remembered you were working on a Gemini. Havn't you sent me the jog ? |
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| 12:37:24 | Strath | jog? |
| 12:39:07 | Strath | ya, i am working on the Gmini, though other issues took priority causing progress on the Gmini to slow |
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| 12:43:33 | lImbus | Strath: I don#t think this is a problem, we'd tell him. |
| 12:48:07 | LinusN | Bagder: donw with ircnicks? |
| 12:48:09 | LinusN | done |
| 12:48:12 | Bagder | yes |
| 12:50:23 | amiconn | LinusN: There is a typo in 'dwihno' |
| 12:51:18 | amiconn | (I know I should register with the wiki) |
| 12:51:39 | BC | LinusN: did you have any luck with that weird libplugin thing? |
| 12:51:54 | Bagder | its not that weird ;-) |
| 12:52:01 | * | [IDC]Dragon is back from lunch |
| 12:55:12 | dwihno | LinusN: Remember the talk about the setting menu revamp we talked about? |
| 12:55:19 | dwihno | Talk about a talk ;D |
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| 12:58:31 | LinusN | meeting |
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| 13:01:36 | dwihno | Boooring ;) |
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| 14:17:37 | LinusN | dwihno: setting revamp, yes? |
| 14:18:48 | dwihno | LinusN: Did we have any takers on that? |
| 14:19:05 | dwihno | (you, that is) ;) |
| 14:21:00 | LinusN | i am working on it in my head :-) |
| 14:26:14 | dwihno | ;) |
| 14:26:57 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN: you were asking for me? |
| 14:27:08 | LinusN | yes |
| 14:27:22 | LinusN | i was wondering how we want to store the recording gain... |
| 14:27:51 | LinusN | it's in the range -3..19.5dB for line in |
| 14:28:12 | LinusN | we could store it in .1dB units |
| 14:28:29 | LinusN | i.e -30 .. 195 |
| 14:29:05 | [IDC]Dragon | how is it stored in global_settings currently? |
| 14:29:09 | LinusN | today we store the raw register value |
| 14:29:13 | LinusN | 0-15 |
| 14:29:35 | LinusN | that works |
| 14:29:48 | [IDC]Dragon | and in a .cfg file? |
| 14:30:21 | LinusN | 0-15 |
| 14:30:42 | [IDC]Dragon | then how about 0-15? ;-) |
| 14:31:30 | LinusN | fine with me |
| 14:32:19 | LinusN | i'll commit my setting changes in a minute or two |
| 14:32:28 | LinusN | two issues arise with this |
| 14:32:44 | LinusN | 1) the balance is set in 1% steps instead of 2% |
| 14:32:56 | LinusN | 2) The bass boost is set in 1% steps instead of 10% |
| 14:33:13 | LinusN | as a result of the val2phys removal |
| 14:33:27 | LinusN | the next step is to do the scaling in sound_menu.c |
| 14:33:42 | LinusN | but i'll commit this change first |
| 14:33:53 | [IDC]Dragon | you mean, we need more bits for the global_settings.xxx content? |
| 14:34:11 | * | BC lets out a wry smile and goes off to make a cup of tea |
| 14:35:23 | LinusN | some of the sound parameters require more bits now, yes |
| 14:35:50 | [IDC]Dragon | I thought you'd adjust everything to "API range" |
| 14:36:34 | LinusN | i changed the api in the process |
| 14:37:11 | [IDC]Dragon | I meant UI range, sorry |
| 14:38:12 | LinusN | i did, but unfortunately, there was inherent scaling in the val2phys/phys2val system as well |
| 14:38:22 | [IDC]Dragon | such that the global_settings content matches the values going into a .cfg file, and to the UI, without conversion |
| 14:38:39 | LinusN | that hasn't changed |
| 14:39:11 | [IDC]Dragon | I know. So you were not happy with the resolution loss at that interface? |
| 14:39:58 | LinusN | i want to get rid of the conversion/scaling in the mpeg API |
| 14:40:07 | LinusN | and do that in the application instead |
| 14:40:44 | [IDC]Dragon | I guess I was thinking quite the opposite |
| 14:41:28 | [IDC]Dragon | work wiith the UI/.cfg values everywhere, and only the driver call converts it to register values |
| 14:43:05 | LinusN | i think we both want the same thing, we just have different ideas on how to solve it |
| 14:44:50 | [IDC]Dragon | the setting code has the requirement that it plain dumps the values in .cfg/RTC, can do no conversion |
| 14:45:30 | [IDC]Dragon | so whatever you want to appear there has to be the global_settings member range |
| 14:46:01 | [IDC]Dragon | if we want the old .cfg files to be compatible, these are our numbers |
| 14:47:03 | [IDC]Dragon | if you break .cfg compatibility, you're free to increase the resolution to better match the hardware |
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| 14:52:34 | #>> | "split" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 14:53:17 | [IDC]Dragon | a split goes through your office? |
| 14:54:43 | Zagor | no, we're just connected to different irc servers |
| 14:55:19 | Zagor | irc.freenode.net is a round-robin dns, so you get different servers every time |
| 14:57:29 | [IDC]Dragon | ah |
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| 15:02:39 | BC | the alternatives (as I see it) are # user-friendly scaling code between the cfg & rtc # mke the user enter the mas register value |
| 15:02:39 | [IDC]Dragon | welcome back |
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| 15:03:37 | LinusN | weee, nice splits |
| 15:03:54 | Bagder | splitters R us |
| 15:04:17 | BC | hmmm |
| 15:04:18 | BC | what will you do with the volume scale? |
| 15:04:18 | BC | I think if you can solve that, the rest of the answers will follow |
| 15:04:18 | BC | 127 values, 100 user scale |
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| 15:04:18 | BC | I must say, I am mighty pleased with the scaling algorithm people voted for |
| 15:04:22 | BC | and it is not at all what I had written originally |
| 15:04:22 | BC | ...a LOT simpler too |
| 15:04:41 | LinusN | personally, i don't like % |
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| 15:05:01 | LinusN | but i understand that people like it |
| 15:05:47 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm afraid I missed something |
| 15:06:13 | LinusN | we're talking about storing .1dB values in RTC |
| 15:07:14 | [IDC]Dragon | whoo,that needs many bits |
| 15:07:16 | LinusN | for volume/bass/treble/loudness |
| 15:07:23 | LinusN | or having individual scaling for each parameter |
| 15:08:19 | [IDC]Dragon | don't we have that now? |
| 15:10:45 | BC | hmmm, but it is a nice user thing, I think "db" would scare most |
| 15:16:11 | LinusN | i think db should be the "native" scale |
| 15:16:47 | LinusN | and the percent usage would be a db<->percent conversion |
| 15:17:15 | LinusN | i.e we store volume in db |
| 15:17:22 | LinusN | not % as we do today |
| 15:17:54 | BC | yes, that is the method I settled on |
| 15:17:58 | LinusN | we could add an option for %/db values |
| 15:18:05 | LinusN | in the ui |
| 15:18:14 | BC | have you played with audio-3587? |
| 15:18:27 | LinusN | (blushes) no... |
| 15:18:36 | BC | righty, it does all of this ;) |
| 15:19:15 | BC | it's storage system (.vol) is sloppy, but as I have to spin up the disk and read 4K anyway, it made little odds really |
| 15:19:48 | BC | read 4k => use 1 sector |
| 15:21:07 | LinusN | 4k->1 sector? i don't get it |
| 15:21:58 | BC | fat32 allocates 4K at a time (mostly), so long as my .vol file was <1 sector, it made no difference to storage, so I was sloppy about not packing my bits in my .vol file |
| 15:22:30 | BC | but it does hold things like currently selected display scale and register values etc. |
| 15:22:39 | LinusN | ah, you mean s/sector/cluster/ |
| 15:23:07 | BC | ah yes, sorry, my mistake |
| 15:23:15 | LinusN | i get it now |
| 15:23:21 | * | BC blushes |
| 15:23:23 | BC | lol |
| 15:25:44 | Zagor | BC: it doesn't read 4k just because a cluster is that big |
| 15:26:06 | BC | yes, I realised that bit as I types and thought I had escaped it being spotted - LOL |
| 15:26:37 | * | LinusN ignored it out of kindness |
| 15:26:48 | Zagor | heh |
| 15:26:50 | BC | :) |
| 15:29:15 | BC | Anyway, feel free to hack through the audio-3587 code, I twigged the other day what one concern may have been - so i state here that all information required to fully and comprehensively understand (and/or reproduce) everything that code does is based in either basic wave theory or the datasheet pdf I downloaded from the Rockbox site - so there is zero risk of "tainting" |
| 15:29:30 | LinusN | :-) |
| 15:29:51 | LinusN | no rocket science there |
| 15:30:48 | BC | nope, just a full (and dare I add, sexy) interface to the basic registers |
| 15:35:44 | BC | did you know we can achieve a volume accuracy of greater than 0...2^20 steps from -115dB to +12dB ? |
| 15:36:11 | BC | you can do some crazy things with that chip with a bit of lateral thinking |
| 15:37:38 | LinusN | by not reading the "not used, must be set to 0" text? :-) |
| 15:37:58 | BC | no, haven't even been down that road yet - LOL |
| 15:37:59 | LinusN | or by fiddling with the channel mixer? |
| 15:38:24 | BC | mainly fiddling in the channel mixer |
| 15:38:37 | BC | I reckon I can get stereo mixing out of it ;) |
| 15:39:27 | BC | lloooaaddss of lateral thinking :D |
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| 15:42:18 | mattzz | Holla |
| 15:42:26 | BC | Bonjour |
| 15:42:54 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: i committed my changes, please review them if you have the time |
| 15:43:38 | [IDC]Dragon | I'll do |
| 15:43:58 | LinusN | my next idea is to move the sound settings to sound.c |
| 15:44:47 | BC | Makes sense - I will argue 150% that the sound is the singularly most important thing my unit does |
| 15:45:12 | LinusN | agree |
| 15:45:40 | LinusN | my plan is to enhance the sound settings |
| 15:45:53 | BC | touche |
| 15:45:59 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN: you should have bumped CONFIG_BLOCK_VERSION |
| 15:46:03 | LinusN | maybe not to the "extreme" level of your audio plugin, but a lot closer |
| 15:46:08 | LinusN | ouch! |
| 15:46:11 | LinusN | me fix |
| 15:47:08 | BC | Well, it would be nice if you leave an appropriate place for a plugin to hook that point |
| 15:47:34 | LinusN | i'm not sure i want a hook |
| 15:47:50 | BC | serious? |
| 15:48:03 | LinusN | however, when the configurable menus arrive, one can easily use your plugin instead of the regular |
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| 15:48:24 | LinusN | along with an "autoexec" to load the settings at boot |
| 15:48:32 | BC | righty |
| 15:48:44 | BC | same overall effect :) |
| 15:48:50 | LinusN | indeed |
| 15:49:29 | BC | I think it would be very simple to user definable hooks all over the code if you wanted |
| 15:49:38 | LinusN | i just hope i didn't break anything with my latest changes... |
| 15:49:59 | LinusN | BC: perhaps |
| 15:50:10 | [IDC]Dragon | you broke .cfg file compatibility, or? |
| 15:50:21 | LinusN | i shouldn't have |
| 15:50:59 | LinusN | not intentionally :-) |
| 15:51:11 | [IDC]Dragon | I thought some range has changed |
| 15:51:36 | LinusN | only in the rtc |
| 15:51:53 | [IDC]Dragon | OK, sorry for aking |
| 15:51:57 | LinusN | the config file used the full range |
| 15:52:14 | BC | have a generic functoin called "hook(char* tail)" which gets a "hookname" passed to it ...that will load hookname.bat and process it accordingly |
| 15:52:32 | LinusN | we will probably break the .cfg file compatibility soon anyway... :-) |
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| 15:53:07 | LinusN | BC: but it isn't trivial to run the hooks just like that |
| 15:53:18 | [IDC]Dragon | have you summed the RTC bits? |
| 15:53:26 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: no :-) |
| 15:53:47 | LinusN | i thought there was plenty of space left |
| 15:53:55 | BC | LinusN: I'm sure we could work out the specifics if we want that feature |
| 15:54:08 | [IDC]Dragon | should be enough, yes |
| 15:54:17 | LinusN | i think i added 1 bit |
| 15:55:19 | LinusN | well, i have to go now |
| 15:55:24 | LinusN | cu l8r d00dz |
| 15:55:31 | BC | l8rz |
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| 16:41:34 | elinenbe | [IDC]Dragon: you here? |
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| 16:41:56 | elinenbe | [IDC]Dragon: this is about the new sorting settings... is there any way to access them? |
| 16:50:58 | [IDC]Dragon | not yet |
| 16:51:17 | [IDC]Dragon | have to write the UI for it |
| 16:55:24 | * | dwihno got some UI ideas |
| 16:55:29 | dwihno | UI UI! |
| 16:59:25 | [IDC]Dragon | cu guys |
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| 17:27:43 | adi|work | http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=www.rockbox.org |
| 17:27:55 | adi|work | could someone tell me what 'pending delete' and 'hold' means? |
| 17:28:51 | BC | sadly my ISP friend is not online atm |
| 17:29:33 | BC | but the registration is paid up until next year |
| 17:31:35 | BC | but it has no dns entry |
| 17:31:46 | BC | 404 |
| 17:32:20 | adi|work | nods |
| 17:38:18 | adi|work | 688$ min to purchase the www.rockbox.net domain |
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| 19:02:55 | RobbieVox | lo |
| 19:02:58 | RobbieVox | ne1 here ? |
| 19:02:59 | scott666 | hey |
| 19:03:02 | scott666 | i am |
| 19:03:18 | RobbieVox | :) hello |
| 19:03:30 | scott666 | whats up? |
| 19:03:51 | RobbieVox | am trying to download the compiler |
| 19:04:01 | scott666 | which one? |
| 19:04:09 | RobbieVox | cgywin |
| 19:04:10 | midk | get bc's |
| 19:04:15 | scott666 | yeah |
| 19:04:16 | midk | bcbc? |
| 19:04:24 | scott666 | BC's is way nice |
| 19:04:30 | scott666 | and easy |
| 19:04:35 | RobbieVox | ill settle for owt at minute |
| 19:04:41 | scott666 | almost idiot-proof |
| 19:04:45 | RobbieVox | good :) |
| 19:04:55 | BC | almost |
| 19:04:58 | RobbieVox | only prob is needs to be for win32 |
| 19:05:31 | scott666 | wheres the demand for an idiot-proof linux installer? |
| 19:05:44 | RobbieVox | lol |
| 19:05:56 | scott666 | i thought linux users LIKED doing it the hard way |
| 19:06:29 | RobbieVox | have found the remote function of ajb and need to build up a ver with the patch on it |
| 19:06:50 | RobbieVox | so ok i need a diff compiler, where can i find it ? |
| 19:07:09 | BC | a diff compiler - ooohhh - do you mean patch.exe? |
| 19:08:16 | scott666 | RobbieVox: for .diff files? |
| 19:08:48 | scott666 | or does diff=different |
| 19:09:43 | RobbieVox | yes fro diff file |
| 19:10:32 | BC | it's called patch.exe |
| 19:10:47 | RobbieVox | but dont i need to recompile the patched soure after ? |
| 19:10:55 | RobbieVox | source* |
| 19:11:15 | BC | yep |
| 19:11:24 | RobbieVox | lol so i need the compiler then |
| 19:11:57 | scott666 | what OS are you using§ |
| 19:12:01 | scott666 | gah |
| 19:12:03 | scott666 | ? |
| 19:12:03 | RobbieVox | xp |
| 19:12:08 | scott666 | stupid § |
| 19:12:14 | scott666 | useless character... |
| 19:12:19 | RobbieVox | lol |
| 19:12:23 | BC | lol - keyboard killing you |
| 19:12:26 | BC | ? |
| 19:12:30 | RobbieVox | the apple symbol ? |
| 19:12:34 | scott666 | lol |
| 19:12:36 | scott666 | no |
| 19:12:52 | scott666 | BC: yes, stupid azerty |
| 19:13:40 | BC | ho ho ho |
| 19:13:58 | scott666 | merry x-mas§ |
| 19:14:00 | scott666 | ? |
| 19:14:21 | BC | that should be in red on green |
| 19:15:00 | RobbieVox | so BC borland c ? for the sh cpu |
| 19:15:13 | | Nick BC is now known as BlueChip (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 19:15:23 | BlueChip | nah, feeling lazy when I typed my nick in earlier |
| 19:15:53 | scott666 | lol |
| 19:17:22 | BlueChip | you can laugh satan boy |
| 19:17:34 | BlueChip | lol |
| 19:17:43 | scott666 | oh, i will |
| 19:17:55 | * | BlueChip braces for hot poker |
| 19:18:24 | BlueChip | anyway, RobbieVox, I was summonsed here to help you ....have I done so yet? |
| 19:18:43 | RobbieVox | er no |
| 19:18:58 | BlueChip | ask me of that which troubles you |
| 19:19:31 | scott666 | who 'summoned' you? |
| 19:19:43 | BlueChip | aha, I have my spies |
| 19:19:46 | BlueChip | ;) |
| 19:19:55 | scott666 | what are you, a fire golem? |
| 19:19:55 | RobbieVox | getting the compiler, done the 1st cygwin install but it wont load the files from eric mirror site |
| 19:20:03 | BlueChip | And it wasn't Trisha McMillan |
| 19:20:13 | midk | HAHAHA |
| 19:20:16 | scott666 | trillian to you |
| 19:20:21 | BlueChip | lol |
| 19:23:10 | BlueChip | RobbieVox, if you ask I will help, else I am off back to my code |
| 19:23:33 | RobbieVox | how do i get the bloody compiler to dwonload |
| 19:23:39 | RobbieVox | or can i get it elsewhere ? |
| 19:24:01 | BlueChip | i have no idea where you are currently failing to get it from |
| 19:24:23 | RobbieVox | http://rockbox.haxx.se/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment#Step_3_Select_Eric_s_mirror_site << point 3 |
| 19:24:40 | BlueChip | oh f' that, just download the one-step installer from my site |
| 19:24:53 | RobbieVox | :) gimmie link |
| 19:25:06 | BlueChip | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems |
| 19:25:24 | scott666 | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/Win32_DevKit/RockBox-DevKit_v301.exe |
| 19:25:51 | scott666 | and then http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/Win32_DevKit/RockBox-DevKit_v301.html |
| 19:26:06 | RobbieVox | :) |
| 19:26:07 | RobbieVox | ta |
| 19:26:10 | BlueChip | errr, the cvs doc |
| 19:26:26 | midk | scott the link doesn't work |
| 19:26:27 | BlueChip | and maybe the new librarires, if he's hacking |
| 19:26:49 | BlueChip | possibl the audio-3587 code so he can compile it in if required? |
| 19:26:58 | midk | lol bc |
| 19:26:59 | BlueChip | lol |
| 19:27:04 | midk | i doubt it. |
| 19:27:28 | RobbieVox | dont spose u familiar with the gnunilink interface? |
| 19:27:45 | BlueChip | scott666, seriously, do you think my site is confusing enought to need direct links, if so, how can I improve it? |
| 19:28:04 | midk | bc calm down a bit |
| 19:28:15 | BlueChip | RobbieVox: sorry no - but i recall info on the ml about it |
| 19:29:27 | BlueChip | mk: did you note the fact that it was a serious question? |
| 19:30:40 | scott666 | did your site suddenly die§ |
| 19:31:10 | scott666 | there it goes |
| 19:31:53 | RobbieVox | wight am go try your compiler |
| 19:31:57 | scott666 | its a little confusing for first time users, especially if they only want rockbox stuff |
| 19:31:57 | RobbieVox | right even |
| 19:32:38 | BlueChip | big image ... thing that looks like a rockbox screenshot? |
| 19:32:54 | BlueChip | how could I make it simpler/ |
| 19:32:56 | BlueChip | ? |
| 19:33:49 | scott666 | not re |
| 19:33:52 | scott666 | damnit |
| 19:34:06 | scott666 | not really much to do besides provide a direct link |
| 19:36:30 | scott666 | its not really confusing, but theres no possibility of confusion if theres a direct link |
| 19:36:31 | BlueChip | then you are restricted to only one file |
| 19:36:45 | scott666 | i mean a direct link to the rockbox page |
| 19:36:56 | scott666 | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/RockBox.htm |
| 19:37:11 | BlueChip | i kinda think that anyone who can't make it past a big logo might not be up to the job of programming - LOL |
| 19:37:17 | scott666 | thats not something youd want to type though |
| 19:37:40 | scott666 | im talking about hte rock downloaders too |
| 19:37:45 | BlueChip | you can leave the rockbox.htm off the end - and remember it IS case SenSiTive |
| 19:37:57 | scott666 | i just copy-paste |
| 19:38:16 | BlueChip | i could set up an alias |
| 19:39:15 | scott666 | audio3587b2 came out?? |
| 19:39:30 | BlueChip | oh yes, see what you miss when you skip the html |
| 19:40:01 | scott666 | its cause i still have 70 rockbox emails left to read |
| 19:40:21 | BlueChip | you read the m ALL |
| 19:40:21 | BlueChip | ? |
| 19:40:22 | BlueChip | wow |
| 19:40:33 | scott666 | and B2 is in the name of all of the files |
| 19:40:41 | scott666 | i at least skim them |
| 19:40:43 | BlueChip | anyway, how comes you're not out chatting up some froggy chick? |
| 19:41:15 | scott666 | cause i dont think my french is quite good enough to chat up anyone |
| 19:41:35 | DBUG | Sent KICK BlueChip to server |
| 19:41:35 | BlueChip | 027% of communication 01is language |
| 19:41:35 | Kick | (#rockbox BlueChip :Colourcodes are *not* appreciated here!) by logbot!~bjst@193.15.23.131 |
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| 19:41:44 | scott666 | 'chat up'...crazy brits... |
| 19:42:11 | scott666 | logbot strikes with a vengence |
| 19:42:12 | BlueChip | cor lgobot's keen today |
| 19:42:32 | scott666 | i got booted twice yesterday |
| 19:42:45 | scott666 | while setting up trillian on this comp |
| 19:42:57 | BlueChip | i typed in the wrong window and pasted it across |
| 19:43:14 | scott666 | but the window closed before i got a chance to read the error message |
| 19:43:33 | BlueChip | likewise |
| 19:43:40 | BlueChip | i just guessed what happened |
| 19:43:42 | scott666 | [19:41] *** BlueChip has been kicked off channel #rockbox by logbot (Colourcodes are *not* appreciated here!) |
| 19:44:01 | BlueChip | oh righty |
| 19:44:24 | scott666 | they muck up the log |
| 19:44:40 | BlueChip | cod the log filter is dodgy - lol |
| 19:44:42 | BlueChip | cos |
| 19:47:20 | scott666 | at least logbot doesnt ban |
| 19:48:03 | midk | he does after 3 times |
| 19:48:08 | midk | or like if you go |
| 19:48:09 | midk | hi |
| 19:48:10 | midk | hi |
| 19:48:11 | DBUG | Sent KICK midk to server |
| 19:48:11 | midk | hi |
| 19:48:11 | Kick | (#rockbox midk :No flooding!) by logbot!~bjst@193.15.23.131 |
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| 19:49:25 | scott666 | lol |
| 19:50:41 | lImbus | lo |
| 19:50:42 | lImbus | l |
| 19:51:02 | midk | OH WAIT |
| 19:51:17 | midk | lets get logbot to talk 3 times |
| 19:51:26 | BlueChip | lmao |
| 19:51:38 | midk | who can make him respond to seen? |
| 19:51:41 | * | scott666 gasps |
| 19:51:47 | midk | logbot seen LinusN |
| 19:52:27 | midk | hi logbot? |
| 19:52:30 | BlueChip | anyway, seems RobbieVox is all sorted now - so I'm back to my code & whiskey |
| 19:52:37 | scott666 | if 3 people flooded at the exact same time... |
| 19:52:45 | midk | lol |
| 19:52:46 | lImbus | midk: slash msg before |
| 19:52:50 | midk | i know |
| 19:52:53 | midk | but i mean directly |
| 19:53:01 | midk | zagor can just say "logbot seen XX" |
| 19:53:03 | lImbus | but I suppose he has to respond to the channel |
| 19:53:08 | midk | yeah |
| 19:53:54 | lImbus | logbotThe following commands are available to you: |
| 19:53:54 | lImbus | logbotlevel 0 ALIAS[PS] CMD EXPLAIN[PS] HELP[S] RULES[PS] SEEN[PS] SHOW[P] SPLIT[PS] SVIEW[PS] SYNTAX[S] TELLME UPTIME[PS] WHOLEFT[PS] |
| 19:54:21 | midk | but we need someone who can get him to respond from and to the channel |
| 19:54:31 | scott666 | just to |
| 19:54:42 | scott666 | doesnt have to be from |
| 19:54:44 | midk | someone who can ask from the channel |
| 19:54:49 | midk | and he can respond to the channel* |
| 19:54:59 | lImbus | what do these [P] and [PS] mean ? |
| 19:55:22 | midk | not sure |
| 19:55:50 | * | lImbus shrugs |
| 19:56:24 | scott666 | heh, i love that |
| 19:56:33 | scott666 | -> *logbot* explain badger |
| 19:56:33 | scott666 | -logbot- 'Badger' An anmial. Frequently misspelled Bagder. |
| 19:56:35 | scott666 | -> *logbot* explain bagder |
| 19:56:35 | scott666 | -logbot- 'Bagder' Sorry, that thing can't be explained. It's against my nature. |
| 19:57:06 | midk | >logbot< explain ata |
| 19:57:06 | midk | -logbot- 'ATA' Short for "Advanced Technology Attachment". |
| 19:57:49 | scott666 | -logbot- 'Zagor' The dark overlord of the Rockbox cult. Certified Code Police. Scares little children. |
| 19:58:29 | midk | >logbot< explain logbot |
| 19:58:29 | midk | -logbot- 'logbot' I am me |
| 19:58:40 | scott666 | lol |
| 19:59:05 | BlueChip | logbot explain logbot |
| 19:59:30 | midk | >logbot< explain quelsaruk |
| 19:59:30 | midk | -logbot- 'quelsaruk' Crazy spanish person. Techno priest. Known to sacrifice goats at midnight to please the debugger gods. |
| 19:59:45 | scott666 | lol |
| 20:00 |
| 20:00:05 | midk | dahAHAHAHAHAH |
| 20:00:05 | scott666 | damn |
| 20:00:12 | scott666 | no entry for BC |
| 20:00:21 | midk | cos bc sucks? |
| 20:00:23 | midk | noes. |
| 20:00:28 | midk | because zagor is bc! |
| 20:00:31 | midk | DAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA |
| 20:00:31 | amiconn | scott666: /msg logbox explain * |
| 20:00:43 | midk | OHIES!!! |
| 20:00:47 | amiconn | Then yoiu get a list what he knows |
| 20:00:56 | midk | >logbot< explain oogabooga |
| 20:00:56 | midk | -logbot- 'oogabooga' The secret Rockbox salute |
| 20:00:57 | midk | hmm |
| 20:01:00 | midk | OOGABOOGA |
| 20:01:06 | midk | >logbot< explain 2.0 |
| 20:01:31 | scott666 | he didnt like explain * |
| 20:01:41 | scott666 | ah |
| 20:01:45 | scott666 | nevermind |
| 20:01:50 | scott666 | i coped and pasted |
| 20:01:57 | scott666 | 'logbox' |
| 20:03:00 | midk | i want to be in the explain thing. |
| 20:03:06 | scott666 | lol |
| 20:03:21 | midk | "explain midk" |
| 20:03:26 | midk | hmm |
| 20:03:31 | midk | i wonder what i shall make him say |
| 20:03:31 | scott666 | 'annoying furry creature. partial to clocks. |
| 20:03:38 | midk | STFU |
| 20:03:43 | midk | sir. |
| 20:04:10 | midk | CLOCKbox |
| 20:04:33 | midk | scott666, is your archos there? |
| 20:04:36 | amiconn | rockCLOX ? |
| 20:04:37 | scott666 | yes |
| 20:04:40 | scott666 | oh course |
| 20:04:43 | midk | lol ami |
| 20:04:45 | scott666 | *of |
| 20:04:49 | midk | would you like to try latest |
| 20:04:55 | midk | mode selector screen; binary mode |
| 20:04:57 | scott666 | link me |
| 20:05:18 | scott666 | lucky i can charge via USB |
| 20:05:24 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 20:05:28 | scott666 | otherwise id be screwed |
| 20:05:46 | BlueChip | thought your french wasn;t good enough |
| 20:05:50 | midk | hhaha |
| 20:06:08 | midk | -> to usb charging |
| 20:06:24 | midk | http://freewebs.com/midky/clock.rock |
| 20:07:11 | scott666 | incompatible version |
| 20:07:24 | midk | it's compiled with 6/18/04 |
| 20:07:40 | midk | what's your version? |
| 20:08:02 | scott666 | 040604 |
| 20:08:07 | midk | ol |
| 20:08:10 | midk | update. |
| 20:08:12 | scott666 | did |
| 20:08:16 | midk | to? |
| 20:08:29 | BlueChip | it's still debatable whether the plugin interface was broken last nnight |
| 20:08:30 | midk | 210604 |
| 20:08:42 | scott666 | Explorateur Windows |
| 20:08:43 | midk | hm? |
| 20:10:41 | midk | just a moment scotteh |
| 20:10:51 | midk | i make you compatible ajz. |
| 20:10:54 | scott666 | on va manger |
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| 20:18:23 | midk | hi ze |
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| 20:53:45 | midk | scotty! yay. |
| 20:54:01 | midk | http://freewebs.com/midky/ajbrec.ajz |
| 20:54:12 | midk | get that to run clock. |
| 20:56:25 | scott666 | daily build works |
| 20:56:32 | midk | ok |
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| 21:27:23 | midk | bcbc |
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| 22:39:09 | wiler | just wondering if anyone knows of a source for a supported player, retailers do not seem to have them |
| 22:39:38 | midk | amazon |
| 22:39:47 | midk | you can get a v2 for like $150 or $130 |
| 22:39:47 | wiler | looking for one with recording features as well so jukebox and fm i suppose, really |
| 22:40:10 | wiler | amazon out of stock |
| 22:40:27 | midk | dah |
| 22:40:29 | midk | froogle? |
| 22:40:32 | midk | buy.com? |
| 22:40:41 | midk | look around.. surely someone has them online |
| 22:40:44 | wiler | i'll have a look thanks for the tips |
| 22:40:46 | midk | fun,p3players.com |
| 22:40:50 | midk | mp3players* |
| 22:40:55 | midk | good luck |
| 22:41:01 | midk | make sure it's a recorder, not a player |
| 22:41:12 | wiler | yep |
| 22:41:15 | wiler | thanks |
| 22:41:28 | midk | np |
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| 22:53:00 | midk | STRATHY |
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| 23:02:23 | Strath | yo |
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| 23:37:19 | RobbieVox | evning |
| 23:37:55 | midk | hi |
| 23:37:58 | midk | i mena |
| 23:37:58 | midk | yo |
| 23:38:02 | RobbieVox | lo again |
| 23:39:12 | RobbieVox | can i ask another compiling / patching q ? |
| 23:39:24 | midk | sure |
| 23:39:48 | RobbieVox | i downloaded the 2.2 source, some patch sw, and my patch |
| 23:39:57 | midk | no no, get a daily build |
| 23:39:59 | RobbieVox | oh and the compiler |
| 23:40:24 | RobbieVox | will it be better tho or lots of thing in beta ? |
| 23:40:35 | midk | better |
| 23:40:39 | midk | nothing usually beta |
| 23:40:40 | RobbieVox | and will the patch work with a daily build ? |
| 23:40:45 | midk | it has to |
| 23:40:51 | RobbieVox | ok lol |
| 23:40:53 | midk | if it's compiled against 2.2 it won't be accepted |
| 23:40:58 | midk | i doubt it would be |
| 23:41:11 | RobbieVox | ? |
| 23:41:19 | RobbieVox | thought a patch wasnt compiled |
| 23:41:20 | midk | accepted if it were compiled with 2.2 |
| 23:41:40 | midk | oh, talking about plugins |
| 23:41:43 | midk | i mean |
| 23:41:55 | midk | if your changes affect 2.2, they probably won't work with the daily build |
| 23:42:03 | midk | because lots has changed since |
| 23:42:07 | RobbieVox | k, i want to use the tx use on remote pin patch |
| 23:44:19 | RobbieVox | ok i just got newest daily build |
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| 23:48:07 | RobbieVox | wb |
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| 23:48:33 | midk | ty |
| 23:50:06 | RobbieVox | ok so i got a daily build tarball |
| 23:50:16 | midk | surely |
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| 23:52:36 | RobbieVox | still not sure on how to patch, how do i tell which files need patching |
| 23:53:29 | midk | um |
| 23:53:33 | midk | what do you want to patch? |
| 23:55:55 | RobbieVox | er the kernal - remote pin tx |
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| 23:56:16 | midk | sec |
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