#rockbox 2004-06-28

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#rockbox log for 2004-06-28

00:00:10	Bagder	I have no idea what they mean when they do that
00:00:14	Bagder	read your manual ;-)
00:00:49	sddsds	thanks i'll do that
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00:56:25	Jt740	Hi
00:57:54	amiconn	hi
00:58:17	Jt740	hi amicoonn
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05:40:56	yeft	yooyoyoyo
05:41:01	midk	hey YEFT
05:41:02	yeft	im in need of serious help
05:41:06	yeft	midk
05:41:07	yeft	what up
05:41:15	yeft	i leave for israel in 3 days
05:41:19	midk	i hope you remember me.
05:41:23	midk	what's wrong?
05:41:26	yeft	and i want my fm recorde working!
05:41:29	yeft	of course i remember
05:41:33	yeft	ata -32
05:41:33	midk	ok good
05:41:35	midk	nick change
05:41:40	midk	hmm
05:41:43	midk	does the drive spin up?
05:41:45	yeft	everyone called you midk anyway
05:42:01	midk	lol
05:42:20	*	scott666 isnt in france anymore
05:42:20	yeft	ok
05:42:24	yeft	i think iknw when it happens
05:42:39	midk	yay
05:42:40	yeft	...hmm is scott a frog...or just visitin
05:42:51	yeft	ok
05:42:59	yeft	i think it happens when i try to change my max files in dir
05:42:59	scott666	nope, just visiting
05:43:03	yeft	ok :)
05:43:13	yeft	and then i try to reboot
05:43:17	yeft	to show the .rockbox folder
05:43:19	yeft	cause it doesnt
05:43:26	yeft	so i can flash with the new firmware
05:43:42	yeft	it does spinup by the way
05:43:47	midk	bump up the max files in dir... initiate a disk spinup by entering a dir... reboot
05:43:51	yeft	...ok never mind witht hat max files thing
05:43:52	midk	make sure you set show files to all
05:44:00	yeft	its on all
05:44:09	midk	.rockbox is on the ajb?
05:44:15	midk	but does not show up?
05:44:31	yeft	well now i just get some debug info
05:44:34	yeft	and then ata -32
05:44:36	yeft	fuxor
05:44:49	midk	hm
05:45:16	midk	mailing list
05:45:35	yeft	i think my battery may have died
05:45:46	yeft	as a sidenote
05:45:55	yeft	cant wait to buy a taz
05:46:01	midk	that could be a problem
05:46:02	midk	taz?
05:46:14	yeft	tightsystems.com
05:46:21	yeft	it doesnt exactly exist yet
05:46:23	yeft	but it will
05:46:53	midk	ah.
05:48:43	midk	try the mailing list
05:49:14	yeft	...
05:49:17	yeft	i hate the mailing list
05:49:25	yeft	3002 emails a day
05:49:33	midk	post
05:49:37	midk	then unsubscrive
05:49:44	midk	ibe*
05:50:31	yeft	damnit
05:50:38	yeft	now i cant even hookup the USB
05:50:46	yeft	to delete the ajbrec file
05:50:55	yeft	so i can boot the original firmware
05:51:49	midk	plug in usb
05:51:53	midk	turn on ajb
05:52:42	yeft	the lil weiner turns itself on and gives me an error
05:52:44	yeft	DMAMAMAMAM
05:53:01	midk	wait for linusn, or post to the list
05:53:06	midk	is it plugged in?
05:53:14	yeft	it was
05:53:18	yeft	i just unplugged it
05:54:26	yeft	ohh HD register error
05:54:30	yeft	what does that mean?
05:54:42	yeft	just got it when trying to load original firmware
05:55:05	midk	need battery juice probably
05:55:30	yeft	ahh shit
05:55:33	yeft	my battery probably died
05:55:43	midk	you can get new ones online i believe
05:56:12	midk	http://www.newmp3technology.com/accessories.html#li-ion
05:57:34	yeft	ive got 3 days
05:57:52	yeft	i just reorganized my mp3 collection and everything...
05:58:40	midk	did ti just start happening?
05:59:20	yeft	yeah
05:59:26	yeft	probably cause i formatted it
05:59:35	yeft	so i could load on the new mp3s fresh
05:59:36	midk	good WORK
05:59:39	midk	well
05:59:51	midk	you could try and grab a 2.5 to 3.5" ide adapter
05:59:57	midk	and pop the jukebox into your pc
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06:01:03	yeft	hahaha then id have to open my baby
06:01:15	midk	yes.. it could be a loose battery connection also
06:01:21	midk	yeft you have to take action now
06:01:23	midk	post to the list
06:01:41	yeft	whats the normal voltage
06:01:45	midk	http://www.watervalley.net/cgi-bin/bb/YaBB.pl?board=Archos&action=display&num=1024570897
06:02:01	midk	iirc, 3.85v - 4.25 MAX
06:02:32	yeft	hehe , it got really hot during charge
06:02:32	midk	I realize how completely asinine this sounds, but when the HD register error comes up on the screen, give your mp3 player a good whack (obviously at your own risk!)!! …Whenever I get that error, I usually hold the player firmly and either hit the top or the front of it hard with the palm of my hand...and VIOLA! - while previously the little startup status bar was stuck about 1/3 of the way, after a good 'whack,' it starts moving again,
06:02:32	midk	then finishes booting up normally! (This leads me to believe that a mechanical part inside was just stuck and needed a little “help.”)
06:02:40	midk	are you sure it was the right adapter?
06:03:05	yeft	yeah
06:03:08	yeft	pretty sure...
06:03:47	yeft	now it wont spin up
06:03:55	yeft	my battery died i know it
06:04:13	midk	well
06:04:20	midk	if it was the wrong adapter, yes, it probably did die
06:04:29	midk	your charging circuit may've gotten fried
06:04:30	yeft	oh shit
06:04:41	yeft	im at the dir listing
06:05:01	midk	yay?
06:05:04	yeft	and it plays music
06:05:21	midk	yay.
06:06:31	yeft	and its stuck again
06:07:01	midk	wtf
06:08:14	yeft	your tellin me!!
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06:14:42	yeft	when its plugged in the battery is showing 4.20=25
06:14:54	yeft	when its not its showing 3.28
06:14:54	midk	that should be ok
06:15:03	midk	that's ok too
06:15:34	yeft	its plugged in!
06:15:38	yeft	what do i do?
06:15:41	yeft	oh...wait..
06:23:10	yeft	ahghhaghasghdsagh
06:23:12	yeft	im gone
06:23:13	yeft	peace
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06:40:12	ryan1	all of the sudden when i fully charge the jukebox it reads as half empty or sometimes less on the battery meter
06:40:17	ryan1	any ideas why?
06:40:29	midk	well
06:40:35	midk	you aren't fully charging it if it shows up halfway
06:40:47	ryan1	well it says battery charged
06:41:00	midk	archos f/w meter or rockbox?
06:41:08	ryan1	rockbox
06:41:15	ryan1	i just put rockbox on it today
06:41:15	midk	and
06:41:21	midk	rockbox f/w says battery charged?
06:41:26	midk	plug it in under rockbox
06:41:30	midk	also.. what model?
06:41:42	ryan1	jukebox recorder 20
06:42:09	ryan1	i just plugged it in under rockbox a little while ago and last it checked it was charging then it paused on the number 65
06:42:18	midk	you ever replace the batteries?
06:42:49	ryan1	nevermind it isnt paused on 65 anymore
06:42:49	ryan1	no
06:43:01	ryan1	but i am using a radio shack charger instead of the archos one
06:43:05	ryan1	cause i lost it
06:43:43	ryan1	i heard if i replace the battery by removing the battery cover i lose everything on it is that true?
06:43:46	midk	is it the correct voltage?
06:43:52	midk	um... no
06:44:00	midk	who said that?/
06:44:04	ryan1	well its 9v
06:44:14	ryan1	i thought i saw it on the archos site but i may have misread it
06:44:27	ryan1	ill look for where i saw it
06:44:46	midk	lol
06:45:11	ryan1	o well i cant find it
06:45:18	ryan1	have you ever changed a battery?
06:45:25	midk	yes
06:45:30	midk	it can't just erase it
06:45:47	ryan1	so if i change the battery it wont ruin anything right
06:46:41	midk	of course not
06:46:47	midk	but it has to be nimh
06:46:58	midk	as high MAH level as possible
06:47:01	ryan1	would i be able 2 do it myself or do i have to send it in to them to do
06:47:20	midk	um
06:47:24	midk	it's super easy.
06:47:33	ryan1	is it possible to have to high of mah
06:48:54	ryan1	and if i change the battery to a higher mah do i have to change the ac adapter to a different voltage
06:49:00	midk	no
06:49:40	ryan1	do you have a recorder?
06:49:44	midk	yes
06:50:13	ryan1	how many volts should the power supply be
06:50:20	midk	hmm sec
06:50:28	ryan1	mine is 9v 1500mah i think
06:50:38	midk	power supply?
06:50:58	ryan1	ya
06:50:59	ryan1	the charger
06:51:23	midk	Output: 9v DC 600mA
06:51:38	midk	the batteries are 1500 mah
06:51:46	ryan1	i mean 1500 ma then
06:51:53	midk	well... yeah.
06:52:04	ryan1	since mine is way over what its supposed to be is it killing my battery do u think?
06:52:20	midk	possibly
06:52:24	midk	the archos-shipped ones suck
06:52:28	midk	replace them if you can
06:52:58	ryan1	so i should replace the battery so its brand new and get a new charger thats the right kind
06:53:14	midk	that should help you, yees
06:53:39	ryan1	im looking at the nimh batteries on radio shack and they all look different which kind do i want
06:53:49	ryan1	the ones that look like normal batteries?
06:56:53	midk	yes
06:56:54	midk	AA
06:56:59	midk	highest mah possible
06:58:05	ryan1	hmm i dont see any double aa
06:58:59	midk	http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F009%5F011%5F006%5F000&product%5Fid=23%2D528
06:59:27	midk	1800mah is okay, but if you have a local best buy or something nearby you can probably get higher like 2100mah
06:59:35	midk	or even a target
06:59:40	midk	a walgreens also.
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07:00:12	ryan1	one more question, how do i replace the battery
07:00:24	ryan1	i mean how do i remove the battery cover is there a trick to it?
07:01:00	midk	*clicks teeth
07:01:29	midk	you slide them outwards −− there's even a small gap for a flathead if needed −− and lift up
07:02:08	ryan1	the top right?
07:02:17	ryan1	above the lcd screen
07:02:37	midk	not the rubber bumper
07:02:49	ryan1	i know
07:02:54	ryan1	how many batteries do i need
07:02:59	midk	four
07:03:26	ryan1	k hey thanks alot im gonna go ahead and give this a try
07:03:32	midk	ok, good luck
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07:04:37	yeft	ok im back
07:05:00	midk	yay.
07:05:19	yeft	do you have pics of an opened FM rec
07:05:26	yeft	just so i can see if it looks ok inside?
07:05:40	yeft	i think the little connecter things on the right are all lose
07:05:43	yeft	loose
07:06:31	yeft	oh mk didnt you used to be helpful
07:07:34	midk	um
07:07:42	midk	*refrains from yelling
07:08:23	yeft	thats it!
07:08:27	yeft	it has to be
07:08:31	yeft	http://www.watervalley.net/cgi-bin/bb/YaBB.pl?board=Archos&action=display&num=1024570897
07:08:38	yeft	htahttp://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/repairbattery.html
07:08:40	yeft	haha that one
07:08:41	yeft	http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/repairbattery.html
07:08:43	yeft	there we go
07:09:00	yeft	mauaauua i just need a soldering iron
07:09:19	glytch	does anyone know the actual manufacturing price of the archos jukebox recorder ?
07:09:49	midk	not sure
07:09:57	midk	not sure
07:09:59	midk	oops
07:10:01	midk	just under what it retails for i'm sure
07:10:08	yeft	hahahaa
07:10:10	yeft	i bet
07:10:18	glytch	i'd like to find the hardware without the hd/hd controller, and sound bits
07:10:40	midk	doubted
07:10:50	glytch	so battery powered lcd,cpu,button controller
07:11:04	glytch	and i could use rockbox as an os to start (:
07:11:18	midk	start?
07:13:49	yeft	yeah, but you need the MAS chip
07:13:52	yeft	archos's
07:14:41	yeft	hehehe my archos battery says to be used witht he Archos Jukebox Multimedia
07:14:46	yeft	only
07:14:50	midk	lol
07:14:53	yeft	oops guess archos ran out
07:18:53	yeft	so idont know much about mics, but how good is this one
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07:19:33	midk	hi LinusN
07:19:39	midk	yay that was fast
07:19:44	yeft	linus
07:19:47	yeft	oohhhh linus
07:19:50	yeft	im desparate
07:20:07	midk	you'd sound a bit more desperate if you spelled it right.
07:20:23	yeft	hahah funny fact...i know how to spell desperate
07:20:37	midk	yeah, just because i just did
07:20:50	midk	you probably copied and pasted
07:20:55	yeft	yeah
07:20:56	yeft	whatever
07:21:09	midk	well i guess the difference is, then, that i actually pay attention to what i am typing
07:21:13	midk	and in case of an error, i fix it.
07:21:59	yeft	actually
07:22:15	yeft	im not desperate cause im pretty sure i know whats wrong
07:22:19	yeft	so i guess im ok
07:22:30	yeft	i just need to find a buddy with a solderng iron
07:22:30	midk	i'm*
07:22:34	midk	soldering*
07:23:06	yeft	oh thats cool linus, when did you get a grammar check bot
07:23:11	midk	that's*
07:23:20	midk	spelling*
07:23:44	yeft	your bot sucks
07:25:21	LinusN	yeft: problems with your fm recorder? ata-32?
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07:27:50	yeft	yeah
07:28:07	yeft	i think it has to do with these contacts..the 7 around the edges
07:28:33	yeft	...does that sound like it could be the problem
07:30:21	LinusN	when does the error appear? do you also get the dreaded "HD register error"?
07:30:50	yeft	after i boot up, sometimes it goes right to Error: ata -32
07:31:00	yeft	sometimes i get that lil debug screen then panic ata 32
07:31:17	yeft	and if i try to boot with the originalfirmware i get the dreaded HD register
07:31:43	yeft	but right now i get nothng becuase its sitting disassembled in my lap
07:32:21	LinusN	ok, this is a sign of bad grounding of the hard drive
07:32:21	yeft	and if i knew how this silly little bar at the top was supposed to be positioned
07:32:29	yeft	i might be able to turn it back on...
07:32:35	yeft	ok....
07:32:38	LinusN	silly little bar?
07:33:03	yeft	yeah at the very top, it has contacts that touch both of the batteries...
07:33:19	LinusN	aha, that one
07:33:21	yeft	but im not sure how it works
07:33:52	yeft	and i think i bent it
07:33:56	LinusN	oh
07:34:25	LinusN	anyway, you need to make sure that all ground connections are properly soldered
07:34:27	yeft	if i hold it down,i can get the rockbox logo to show up but nothing else
07:34:48	yeft	so those little luggs as the one site calls them on the right
07:34:48	LinusN	that includes the tabs that connect the chassis to the PCB
07:34:53	yeft	right
07:35:00	yeft	i think thats the problem them
07:35:09	yeft	...now i need a soldering iron..
07:35:12	LinusN	also, you need to make sure that the battery connectors make contact with the battery
07:35:16	yeft	oh well cant hurt to have one around
07:35:31	yeft	is that the bar?
07:35:53	LinusN	no, it's inside
07:36:04	yeft	oh
07:36:07	LinusN	have you read this: http://www.angelfire.com/trek/archos/ ?
07:36:09	yeft	what about the bar?
07:36:21	yeft	yeah ive been on that site for a little now..
07:36:34	yeft	thats where i read about those luggs connected to the PCB
07:36:55	LinusN	it shows pretty well how to reseat the battery lid
07:37:01	yeft	ok
07:37:10	yeft	haha i still need to know how to position this bar right
07:37:46	LinusN	the reassembly instruction shows this pretty well i think
07:38:03	LinusN	but i agree, it's sometimes tricky
07:39:17	yeft	heheh silly though
07:39:24	yeft	his was brand new less than a month old
07:39:29	yeft	thats stll covered under warranty
07:40:49	LinusN	and you still opened it...
07:40:55	yeft	he did...
07:40:56	yeft	not me
07:41:06	yeft	the one fromt he angel fire site
07:41:31	LinusN	"the angel fire site"?
07:41:55	yeft	http://www.angelfire.com/trek/archos/
07:42:05	LinusN	aha
07:42:26	yeft	sorry i have mad ADD, and i think people are on the same track as me always...
07:42:35	LinusN	i opened my FM two hours after i received it :-)
07:43:07	yeft	you also created new firmware from scratch...
07:43:11	yeft	im not that advanced
07:43:19	LinusN	on the other hand, that's why i received it in the first place
07:43:38	midk	ooh
07:43:40	midk	i before e
07:43:43	midk	except after c
07:43:47	midk	good work LinusN
07:44:09	yeft	bahahahaha
07:44:14	yeft	stupid grammar bot
07:44:25	yeft	doesnt know what its talking about
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07:44:40	midk	doesn't*
07:47:58	yeft	thank you linus
07:48:06	yeft	maybe ill purchase a soldering iron tomorrow
07:48:10	midk	i'll*
07:48:11	yeft	how much do they go for?
07:49:47	yeft	hey theyre pretty cheap
07:49:48	yeft	cool
07:50:03	yeft	thanks goodnight all
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07:50:24	midk	i take offense at "grammar bot"
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08:56:55	midk	hey zaggy
08:58:16	Zagor	hi
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10:58:06	midk	hi bagder
10:58:15	Bagder	g'day
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11:00:51	[IDC]Dragon	'morning guys
11:01:28	midk	nite all.
11:01:31	midk	er, in a moment
11:01:43	midk	*nicks some stopwatch.c code
11:03:46	[IDC]Dragon	LinusN: at the weekend, I forgot to ask you about the button survey results
11:04:01	LinusN	and i forgot to download them from my pda :-(
11:04:10	[IDC]Dragon	So I thought
11:04:20	midk	linusn has a pda?
11:04:25	midk	three cheers for LinusN!!
11:04:30	LinusN	Psion 5MX
11:04:34	[IDC]Dragon	don't worry, I have no code yet to plug them into
11:04:35	midk	well.. two.. because pdas are somewhat standard
11:04:46	midk	hip hip, hooray. hip hip, hooray!
11:05:17	[IDC]Dragon	PDAs are in a crisis since there are smartphones
11:05:33	[IDC]Dragon	(so I heared)
11:05:33	midk	oh, those psions i hear are really good
11:06:21	[IDC]Dragon	and mp3 players will, too, once they fit gigabytes in phones
11:10:29	midk	HM. SUCK,
11:11:01	midk	check out this code
11:11:02	midk	count+=(rb->current_tickd);
11:11:08	midk	i makes it myself
11:11:17	midk	er
11:11:26	midk	count+=(rb->current_tick % 100);
11:11:40	midk	without the spaces
11:12:12	LinusN	why the %100?
11:12:23	midk	not sure
11:12:37	midk	i saw it in rockblox somewhere i think
11:12:49	midk	remind me to submit my rockbox update.
11:12:51	LinusN	i think % HZ might be more appropriate
11:13:13	LinusN	what are you trying to accomplish?
11:13:25	midk	mm
11:13:27	midk	clock.c:2138: invalid operands to binary %
11:13:37	midk	i want count to += 1 every second.
11:14:08	midk	just because i will "accept" your help doesn't mean that i couldn't have done it a worse, longer, less efficient way on my own, by the way. :)
11:14:13	Bagder	current_tick is a pointer in the plugin API
11:14:17	midk	yessir
11:14:19	midk	i see that sir
11:14:21	midk	in rockblox sir
11:14:28	LinusN	count+=(&(rb->current_tick) % 100);
11:14:36	LinusN	count+=(*(rb->current_tick) % 100);
11:14:43	midk	I KNEW IT
11:14:44	midk	see
11:14:45	midk	that d
11:14:51	midk	that % 100*
11:14:54	midk	i knew it was good for something
11:15:17	midk	dah
11:15:21	midk	out of juice.
11:15:48	[IDC]Dragon	100 should better be HZ
11:15:49	LinusN	i thought you already had a mechanism for updating once a second?
11:16:03	midk	*shrugs
11:16:10	midk	if it involves more code it's fine
11:16:18	midk	i've just clipped 2200 lines
11:16:32	[IDC]Dragon	midk: but why do you _add_ the already accumulated time to something?
11:16:36	LinusN	and those 2200 lines were...?
11:16:42	midk	clock code
11:16:48	midk	idc: it's for a counter
11:17:18	LinusN	midk: still, adding to the counter may not be what you want
11:17:26	midk	no?
11:17:35	[IDC]Dragon	midk: still, why would you want to add the fraction of the second?
11:17:37	LinusN	it depends on what you want of course
11:18:12	midk	i'm not sure...
11:18:16	midk	i know i am tired.
11:20:04	midk	okay, bed now seems nice
11:20:43	midk	and it is time.
11:20:45	midk	good night
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11:22:18	[IDC]Dragon	sweet dreams
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13:51:43	Bagder	LinusN: you done with the flashingrockbox wiki?
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14:02:48	LinusN	not yet
14:03:06	Bagder	ok
14:03:18	Bagder	add links to the uartboot doc while you're in there
14:03:37	LinusN	i'm wondering if one should either strip all the technical mumbo-jumbo, or just write a "for dummies" version
14:04:04	LinusN	i think i'm opting for a "for dummies" version
14:04:12	Bagder	yes, me too
14:08:06	[IDC]Dragon	you can take the "blind man's" version for that
14:08:34	[IDC]Dragon	ohh, uart boot, a weak sopt of mine
14:08:39	[IDC]Dragon	spot
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14:32:50	Bagder	argh
14:32:58	Bagder	sh-elf-gcc: common/clicdata.cpp: C++ compiler not installed on this system
14:33:39	*	Bagder tried something adventurous, but it hit back ;-)
14:33:45	Zagor	clicdata?
14:34:02	Bagder	rc5-72 ;-)
14:34:07	LinusN	hahahahaha
14:34:16	Zagor	aah
14:34:23	Bagder	I think it would be kind of cool
14:34:46	LinusN	ar rc5 plugin?
14:34:47	LinusN	an
14:34:57	Zagor	i thought the dnetc client was partly closed, to avoid bogus data
14:36:16	Bagder	you can still download and port the sources
14:36:27	Bagder	http://www1.distributed.net/porting/
14:36:39	Bagder	an archos meets the requirements
14:36:50	Bagder	at least theoretically
14:38:42	[IDC]Dragon	you want to utilize the vast background computing power of our boxes?
14:43:39	Bagder	I thought it would be a fun hack
14:43:50	Bagder	but now I'll postpone it ;-)
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15:11:10	lImbus_	ohh, thanks LinusN. I expected him beeing kicked by peer as there is NO other client running.
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15:16:18	DD	Hello
15:16:30	lImbus	hi
15:16:41	DD	A make mirc?
15:16:50	Bagder	here we go
15:17:08	DD	bio?
15:17:12	[IDC]Dragon	the bizarr-o-bot strikes back
15:17:19	DD	kow?
15:17:49	DD	what after film?
15:18:00	DD	ip with moirC?
15:18:03	DD	and 3d..
15:18:04	DD	bio
15:18:06	DD	linux?
15:18:24	Mode	"#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
15:18:45	[IDC]Dragon	DD: how old are you?
15:18:53	DD	so 3DsMax is 2 bio
15:19:01	DD	i m 17
15:19:15	DD	ans AI appear with you
15:19:23	DD	mIRC
15:19:30	DD	no quanta
15:19:31	[IDC]Dragon	DD: understand, this is the wrong channel!
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15:20:07	lImbus	DD: 17 what ? months ? stellar-years ? 17 bytes ?
15:20:11	DD	Am I Absolue
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15:20:26	[IDC]Dragon	does anybody speak french, to clarify this?
15:20:36	Bagder	he doesn't read anyway
15:20:42	LinusN	he doesn't speak french
15:20:49	Kick	(#rockbox DD :this channel is for rockbox) by Bagder!~dast@labb.contactor.se
15:20:59	lImbus	I do speak french
15:21:05	LinusN	yes, but not dd
15:21:27	lImbus	ok. now I got it
15:22:10	[IDC]Dragon	LinusN: but I thought he's french, with horrible english skills
15:22:29	[IDC]Dragon	too worse for us to decipher
15:25:10	lImbus	his ip resolves to system.nacuada.com with a FRENCH 404 !
15:27:10	LinusN	i spoke to him privately last time we kicked him
15:27:17	LinusN	and he didn't speak french
15:27:34	LinusN	i did ask: "Are you drunk?"
15:27:43	LinusN	his answer: "Yes"
15:27:45	LinusN	:-)
15:32:02	dwihno	Perhaps he was totally wasted?
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15:43:53	yeft	yoyoyoyoy
15:44:02	Bagder	hi
15:44:02	yeft	is anyone here
15:44:10	yeft	nice!
15:44:22	yeft	got any tips on a soldering iron to buy, i dont know much about them
15:44:33	Bagder	me neither! ;-)
15:44:55	yeft	damn
15:45:07	yeft	all i know is i need one :)
15:46:14	yeft	i figure ill go radio shack and get one...but i dont want to get the wrong one
15:54:12	[IDC]Dragon	yeft: what do you want it for?
15:54:26	yeft	MY FMR
15:54:44	[IDC]Dragon	doing what on it?
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16:08:23	LinusN	time to go home
16:08:28	LinusN	cu around
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16:21:36	zehareia	ok
16:21:40	zehareia	thanks
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16:22:28	Zagor	haha
16:28:59	Bagder	Zagor: good reply to MikeD ;-)
16:29:28	Zagor	:)
16:31:08	Zagor	his business card has some serious geek cred
16:31:16	Bagder	yeps
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16:52:44	dstar5	midknight2k3 awake?
16:53:14	scott666	hey diddy
16:53:37	dstar5	diddy?
16:53:42	dstar5	i am dstar5 :)
16:53:49	scott666	whatever
16:53:52	dstar5	or you can call me dids :)
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17:01:10	[IDC]Dragon	bye
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17:14:51	dstar5	Zagor, have the asm constraints in the new gcc been figured out?
17:15:13	Bagder	I don't think so
17:15:16	Zagor	apparently they changed the syntax. i don't know the details.
17:24:24	Bagder	$HOME!
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19:05:37	amiconn	Hi Zagor
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21:51:10	midk	hey zagor?
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21:53:56	midk	yo star.
21:53:58	midk	dstar*
21:54:03	dstar5	5
21:54:06	midk	yah.
21:54:07	midk	er
21:54:08	midk	dids :D
21:54:23	dstar5	:)
21:54:27	*	dstar5 likes the name dids
21:54:36	midk	okay then, sir dids.
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21:55:43	midk	lol
21:55:49	midk	hmm, suckage.
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21:56:58	DD	hello
21:57:02	dids	hi
21:57:13	DD	what?
21:57:17	DD	nonopen?
21:57:37	DD	just for me
21:57:45	dids	?
21:57:48	DD	who are me?
21:58:15	DD	i m not linux user
21:58:59	dids	<dids> ?
21:58:59	dids	<DD> who are me?
21:59:07	dids	Do you speak french?
21:59:29	DD	oui
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22:00:05	DD	where are AIs?
22:00:22	DD	what is twiki?
22:00:43		Quit DD (Client Quit)
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22:01:24	DD	what is Wiki?
22:01:35	midk	open source documentation
22:02:04	DD	i can t register
22:02:05	dids	ouvrez la documentation de source.
22:03:13	dids	Montre-t-il une erreur ?
22:04:28	DD	qd je m inscris il met met incorretct wiki name
22:05:04	DD	wikiworld noration?
22:06:07	DD	i want to smoke
22:06:16	DD	i m so confuse sin
22:06:31	DD	eth is bad alone
22:06:42	DD	and with her, alone, cant little
22:06:43	dids	Quel est votre nom de wiki ?
22:06:53	DD	J en ai pas
22:08:32	dids	Votre nom de wiki devrait être votre prénom, puis dernier nom, sans les espaces.
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22:10:27	dids	ce travail ?
22:10:49	DD	�on nom est Nicolas G�rard
22:11:23	dids	http://rockbox.haxx.se/twiki/bin/view/Main/NiclasTuillaud
22:11:50	dids	Vous êtes enregistré !
22:12:03	DD	:)
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22:12:39	d4nGeRoUs	hi all
22:12:43	dids	hi
22:12:54	DD	coooll
22:12:58	DD	hi
22:13:02	d4nGeRoUs	do anybody speak geramn?
22:13:16	dids	not that i know of
22:13:21	dids	amiconn may
22:13:25	DD	not more
22:13:35	d4nGeRoUs	ok i try my best in english
22:13:46	dids	your english seems fine so far
22:14:01	DD	not pb for Rockbox
22:14:27	d4nGeRoUs	i have a jukebox multimedia and want to have a better firmware
22:14:38	d4nGeRoUs	rockbox is not compatible...
22:14:48	DD	Soory for Archos
22:15:14	d4nGeRoUs	??
22:15:18	dids	d4nGeRoUs :(
22:15:22	DD	Homeworld sound
22:15:51	d4nGeRoUs	are there other firmwares for archos products?
22:16:07	dids	d4nGeRoUs, yes, for the av300's
22:16:21	DD	:)
22:16:24	dids	and there was one being made for the gmini. although i am not sure any progress has been amde
22:16:40	dids	avos.sf.net
22:17:52	d4nGeRoUs	hmm i think i have got the old one jukebox multimedia
22:19:16	DD	why is there linux pingui on avos?
22:19:44	dids	DD, it aims to be running linux soon
22:20:08	dids	( il vise à être linux courant bientôt )
22:20:11	DD	Linux on av300?
22:20:26	dids	DD, oui
22:21:12	DD	the pb is Roots?
22:21:35	dids	?
22:21:50	DD	why you can t put linux now?
22:21:54	DD	what is avos?
22:22:09	dids	avos is firmware for the archos av300
22:22:18	dids	avos is currently being made
22:22:33	DD	ok find well
22:22:41	DD	i m so happy to leran that:)
22:22:46	dids	:)
22:29:03	d4nGeRoUs	avos is great but what is with my normal old jukebox mm??
22:29:15	DD	r�ellemnt content
22:29:54	DD	mm is not top
22:30:06	dids	do you mean what firmware is on it or if there is a other firmware for the mm?
22:30:07	DD	sorry
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22:31:00	glytch	anyone want a gmail account?
22:31:27	dids	no, i already hae one :)
22:31:30	midk	same
22:31:32	glytch	email glytchbinary@gmail.com with a first/last name and an existing address. i've got about 20 invites to use
22:31:34	glytch	k
22:31:40	midk	lol
22:31:42	dids	really?
22:31:45	midk	yah wow
22:31:47	midk	i got 6
22:31:50	dids	where did you get 20 ivites? lol
22:31:59	dids	i have not been ofered any yet...
22:32:03	glytch	well i got three... then i signed up for those.. then i got 9 etc...
22:32:17	d4nGeRoUs	i want a new better firmware for my jukebox mm
22:32:24	glytch	and i know people that work at google ( :
22:32:39	dids	d4nGeRoUs, lots of people asked about that, but so far, no one has made one :(
22:32:41	glytch	d4nGeRoUs start coding
22:32:56	dids	glytch, tell people at google to let some more invies out :)
22:33:01	glytch	d4nGeRoUs just port linux so you can use xmms or rhythmbox
22:34:04	dids	mplayer :)
22:34:17	d4nGeRoUs	hmmm i think i must startlearning to create firmwares
22:34:25	d4nGeRoUs	for archos
22:35:08	dids	d4nGeRoUs, can you code?
22:36:07	d4nGeRoUs	my schoolfriend can
22:36:49	dids	d4nGeRoUs, you should toy with rockbox a bit it is a bit hard to use, but there is a simulator
22:37:11	glytch	i'm actually thinking about using rockbox for an embedded device i'm working on
22:37:11	d4nGeRoUs	a simultor?
22:37:36	glytch	little singe function device. just rip all the sound bits from rockbox. it already has menu code and such done (:
22:37:39	glytch	and graphics libs
22:37:51	dids	d4nGeRoUs, yes you can try one out here: http://rockbox.haxx.se/auto/build-recordersimwin32/uisw32.exe
22:38:03	glytch	hardware from a jukebox recorder - hd/sound stuffs is probably cheaper than something needed to run linux
22:39:00	d4nGeRoUs	thx
22:40:57	dids	umm gmail is kinda down
22:41:09	midk	not fo rme
22:41:18	dids	Gmail is temporarily unavailable. Cross your fingers and try again in a few minutes. We're sorry for the inconvenience.
22:41:20	dids	hh
22:41:22	dids	heh
22:41:25	midk	LOL
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22:41:50	midk	yo elinenbe,
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22:42:50	elinenbe	hi there
22:42:57	midk	:)
22:43:03	dids	:-)
22:43:51	dids	arghh someties gmail is workings.. others its dead
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22:47:39	dids	hardeeps!
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