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#rockbox log for 2004-07-17

00:04:17 Nick midk|movie is now known as midk (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com)
00:04:21*midk is back (gone 02:39:34)
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00:29:33SmoothI have just learnt that the ipod mini uses a Microdrive for its HD!
00:29:37midkWOW
00:29:41midkbut it doesn't.
00:29:45Smoothit does
00:29:52midknope, a cornice element
00:29:59Smoothhttp://www.ipodbattery.com/ipodminiinstall.html
00:30:06Smoothsee for yourself in the picture
00:30:15midkit says microdrive
00:30:16Smooththe disassembled ipod mini has a 4gb microdrive
00:30:22midknope.
00:30:24Smoothyes a microdrive is a microdrive
00:30:27SmoothCFII
00:30:28midksays microdrive - it's a cornice element
00:31:11Smoothso you could remove the microdrive and fit a type II 4gb CF card instead
00:31:29DBUGEnqueued KICK StealtheR
00:31:29*StealtheR 09is playing: 0710909.07 07All Eyez On Me - Featuring Skye09  072pac09  07All Eyes On Me(Remasterd)-CD209  07Gangsta Rap09  07200109  071009  07509:0707 09- 07192kbps09
00:31:36tpelliottI wander how long it will take them to get 60, 80 or 100 gig drives that small?
00:31:49Smoothnot long i don't think
00:31:57Smooththey are working on "holographic storage"
00:32:06Smoothdevices that can store terabytes of data in a small space
00:32:25BC3TB on a credit card last i heard
00:32:37Smoothyea something like that
00:32:41tpelliottHave you seen info about those new players that will run a version of Windows Media Center?
00:32:46Smoothyea i saw
00:32:48SmoothCreative makes one
00:32:54Smoothlooks a bit like the older Rio Riot
00:33:41tpelliottI would love to have a unit that will record to any format and allow visual on screen editing.
00:34:01BCwhy "any" format?
00:34:07Smooththe Archos AVXXX series can do that (I think)
00:34:17tpelliotta lossless format.
00:34:43BCbut surely (eg) wav & mp3 would be sufficient for record
00:34:54Smoothyea
00:34:58Smoothmore universal
00:35:09CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
00:35:09*StealtheR 09is playing: 0710909.07 07Baby Dont Cry09  072Pac09  07Black Jesuz CD09  07Hip-Hop09  07200309  07Team XDS09  07409:0718 09- 07192kbps09
00:35:33tpelliottI won't buy anything till my Archos V1 recorder (60GB) dies, which I hope isn't for a long time :)
00:35:42BCi concur
00:35:53Smoothwhy are more and more companies using mickey-mouse sealed Li-ion batteries that are harder to replace than NiMH cells?
00:35:59BCsmall
00:36:00Smoothlike the ipod?
00:36:00BClight
00:36:13Smoothyea but they are a bastard to replace when they wear ouit
00:36:25BCat least archos now supply two and an easy swap compartment
00:36:27Smoothi think u may as well buy a new HD and put that in the Archos instead
00:36:29tpelliottI hate that too, Smooth. That's why I love my V1 recorder
00:36:32Smoothyea
00:36:33Smoothme 2
00:36:42Smoothwhen ur HD wears out, just bung a new HD in it
00:36:59tpelliottTrue.
00:37:06Smoothare they the generic 9.5" HDs?
00:37:13midk9.5"?!
00:37:17midk*runs
00:37:29tpelliott2.5
00:37:35Smoothsorry 2.5 then?
00:37:41midkhe just said so...
00:37:49 Nick midk is now known as midk|quakeIII (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com)
00:37:52Smooth9.5mm then
00:38:02tpelliott'ok.
00:38:15tpelliottWhat size drive are you running?
00:38:25Smootha Hitachi 10gigger
00:38:29Smoothwhich came with the Archos
00:39:01SmoothI like to put the largest in for the smallest price
00:39:22midk|quakeIIIooh, what a coincidence - i like to pay lots for small ones.
00:39:52tpelliottMy DC in connector is flakey since the upgrade but I just swap betteries. I have 8 2300mah Energizers.
00:39:52Smoothyou are always a strange person mi
00:40:04Smoothme 2
00:40:06midk|quakeIIImidk|quakeIII, not 'mi'
00:40:08midk|quakeIIIer
00:40:15midk|quakeIII'midk', not 'mi'
00:40:18Smoothwell 4 2300mah energisers
00:40:50midk|quakeIIIzer, not ser.
00:40:51midk|quakeIIIok i go now
00:41:03Smoothoh yea i just realised if u have windows xp, you can't format a drive larger than 40gb as FAT32
00:41:06Smoothonly NTFS
00:41:22BCthere are utils to help with that
00:41:40tpelliottTrue but there are utilities to format large drives FAT32
00:41:45Smoothyea
00:41:57tpelliottI used Partition Magic to format mine.
00:42:11Smoothwould an 80gb laptop drive work in the archos?
00:42:23tpelliottYou have to remember to get an IDE adapter.
00:42:32tpelliottSure.
00:43:06Smoothbet they drain the battery fast
00:43:25tpelliottGet a 4200RPM drive. Faster drives are wasted on the Archose and may be more power hungry.
00:43:47Smoothbut i can't help thinking the price to change the HD, you may as well buy a new player, albeit with Li-ion cells
00:44:13tpelliottYou won't get 80gigs.
00:44:23Smoothyea i suppose
00:44:45tpelliottIf you have lots of files, you may want the huge storage.
00:44:49Smoothlol i can imagine filling up 80gigs on a USB1.1 connection
00:45:46tpelliottIt would take days, and lots of batteries :)
00:45:59Smoothu can alway plug the charger in :)
00:46:16kaboofabut the batteries drane faster then it charges
00:47:01kaboofadrain rather
00:47:06tpelliottThe stupidest bug of the Archos unit. You could force it ro run from an adapter at the risk of frying it.
00:48:25Smoothyea
00:48:29tpelliottIt would be nice to find an adapter that you could safely connect to the battery terminals.
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00:49:27BCbuy a regualted power supply of put a voltage regulator in a cheap psu
00:51:44Smoothis there a program for Windows that lets you make your own fonts for Rockbox?
00:51:57BCno
00:54:20BCcan someone feed my the unix command to kill a directory please?
00:54:23tpelliottHave you guys tried Linus' safe poweroff patch?
00:59:48BClol - must be the weather
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01:23:56Smoothhi dstar
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01:25:04midk|quakeIIIa
01:25:08midk|quakeIIIdammit
01:25:11 Nick midk|quakeIII is now known as midk (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com)
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01:25:20midkdids
01:25:31dstar5priv msg me
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01:28:12webminddie
01:28:27midkyou./
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01:49:39dstar5brb
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02:05:07dstar5BC, there?
02:08:53midkah HAH
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02:10:34dstar5?
02:10:44midki fixed my clock bugs
02:10:45midkboth of them
02:10:55dstar5ok
02:14:51BCklondike has just been updated
02:14:59midkgo bc
02:15:09BCend game routine is much slicker now
02:17:30*dstar5 hates the new kde where the icons bounce
02:17:37***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
02:17:38midkyou can change that
02:17:39dstar5brb
02:17:45dstar5me go into xfce4 :)
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02:23:58kaboofadoodie: ifconfig <interface> up
02:23:59kaboofaack
02:24:02kaboofawrong window :X
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03:49:14midkzeze
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05:23:44IcedDogI just noticed on the features page...it says recorders can play video...what video formats does it support?
05:23:49midk.rvf
05:24:03IcedDoghmm, never heard of it
05:24:18midkyou shouldn't have
05:24:24midk"rockbox video format"
05:24:40IcedDoglol
05:24:49midk..
05:25:15IcedDogis there a way to convert other formats (mpg, avi, etc) to .rvf?
05:25:30midkyes.
05:25:57midkwell. it's right under your nose at the documentation page.
05:32:38IcedDogwow...have to try that out...thanks
05:32:45midknp
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06:16:55scott666midk: you got commit access??
06:17:27midkyes, a while ago. about to merge a new update featuring a counter countdown mode
06:17:35midkif i can get this alert to alert right
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06:18:11scott666has diddy told you about his fuzzy clock?
06:18:29midkyes, he said he was working on it
06:18:33midkdoubt it will ever get far
06:18:38scott666i saw some code
06:18:45midkugly?
06:18:46midkgood?
06:18:56scott666it was pretty basic
06:18:58scott666and it didnt work
06:18:59scott666lol
06:19:03midkLOL
06:19:14scott666that was the reason he sent it to me
06:19:14midkjust like
06:19:29midkif(minute == 32) XX; if(minute ==33) xx;?
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06:20:01scott666no
06:20:09midkacutally. i know how to do it
06:20:14scott666 >3 or <8 == 5
06:20:17midkint fuzmin, fuxhour
06:20:21midkfuz*
06:20:23midkthen
06:20:27midkyes like that
06:20:38midkand snprintf(%d past %d, min, hr
06:20:46scott666thats exactly what he had
06:20:57midkhm
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06:21:28midkyou are sleeping!?1
06:21:34scott666obviousl
06:21:34scott666y
06:22:04midkfafa
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11:20:14midkyo scottyuaertyasdf
11:20:24scott666whats up
11:20:33scott666www.asdf.com
11:20:36midkeh, dies.
11:20:38midki did!!
11:20:47midkthe meaning of asdf is goood
11:21:19midkhttp://www.asdf.com/asdfstory.html
11:21:21midkasdf story*
11:21:51scott666yeah
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16:58:41TomSleepAny of you know what timezone slovakia is?
16:58:53TomSleeplike GMT+-XX
17:00
17:02:58BCCET, same timezone as germany or france ...which I *think* is GMT+1
17:03:18TomSleepalrigth
17:03:20TomSleepthanks
17:03:31BCyw
17:03:40TomSleepCurrent time zone offset:UTC/GMT +2 hours
17:03:45TomSleepTime zone abbreviation:CEST - Central European Summer Time
17:03:47TomSleepmmm
17:03:51 Nick TomSleep is now known as Kaboofa (~kaboofa@pcp03462569pcs.indpnd01.mo.comcast.net)
17:04:15BCeurgh - CEST! ...BST does my head in, and I live in the UK ! LOL
17:04:38BChttp://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=735
17:04:47Kaboofathat's what I'm looking at :)
17:05:18BCBST is GMT+1
17:05:25BCit is currently 16:05 BST
17:05:48Kaboofacurrently, it's 11:05 EDT
17:05:54Kaboofai don't like america :|
17:06:06BC(british summer time ..."spring foward, fall back")
17:06:13Kaboofawe have that here
17:06:25BCthink yourself lucky - it's a real pain
17:06:37*Kaboofa shakes his fists are the farmers for messing up his time
17:06:42BCLOL
17:07:41Kaboofahttp://www.timeanddate.com/time/internettime.html
17:07:42Kaboofaweird
17:08:12BC" the Internet Time system divides the day into 1000 ".beats". Each .beat is 1 minute and 26.4 seconds."
17:08:25BCyes, because a time unit of 1m26.4S is sooooooooo useful
17:09:02BCWonder if it will help me to boil eggs successfully?
17:09:26Kaboofahahahahh
17:09:50*Kaboofa shakes his fist at sweedish company 'swatch' for making that up
17:09:50Kaboofa!!
17:09:51BCLMAO "....and we have a new meridian ....our head office ...cos standards are for losers"
17:09:53KaboofaBUNNIES!!
17:10:23Kaboofahttp://www.swatch.com/pics/obern_random_bunny.jpg
17:10:25KaboofaI WANT THAT
17:10:36BCLMAO
17:10:57KaboofaBunnysutra
17:10:57Kaboofa$55.00
17:10:57KaboofaRef# STGK101
17:10:58DBUGEnqueued KICK Kaboofa
17:10:58Kaboofaawesome
17:11:35BCnow we need a digital "s"watch with the internet time displayed in octal, just to complete the usefulness of it all
17:11:46Kaboofahey
17:11:48Kaboofadon't knock octal
17:11:57Kaboofafor an entire week last year i did all my math in octal
17:11:59BChandy for 9-bit computers
17:12:02Kaboofato make my teacher go nuts
17:12:03BCLOL
17:12:17BCyou evil B*
17:12:25Kaboofashe looked at it, was like "huh?"
17:12:31Kaboofathen i wrote 10=8 on the top of it
17:12:34Kaboofa"oooooh....."
17:12:49Kaboofa:)
17:12:54BCdid she mark it?
17:12:58Kaboofayeah
17:13:02BCrespect
17:13:07Kaboofait's pretty much the same thing
17:13:09Kaboofayou just
17:13:10Kaboofayou know
17:13:19Kaboofashe checks the work AND the answer
17:13:20BCcut your thumbs off
17:13:23Kaboofano
17:13:41Kaboofapoop
17:13:43Kaboofai have work soon
17:13:46Kaboofalike 20 minutes
17:13:47Kaboofaoh well
17:14:05BCI'm skiving ...trying to avoid my homework
17:14:27BChad a "manyana" moment
17:14:36Kaboofaok
17:15:14BCjust tied bows on all my latest Rockbox stuff ...and wondering what to do next
17:15:38Kaboofahmmm
17:15:42Kaboofaraycasting engine :)
17:16:01Kaboofaport over wolf3d to the recorder :)
17:16:14Kaboofahmm
17:16:16BCshould be possible
17:16:19Kaboofathere is almost enough buttons to do it
17:16:42BCI already have a random maze generator running on rockbox
17:16:52Kaboofao.o
17:16:54Kaboofathat's cool
17:16:59BCthe 1st person stuff is relatively simple
17:17:13BCI was also shown how to write racing games the other day
17:17:41BCthe lcd does good motion blur too :)
17:18:10Kaboofayeah :D
17:18:33BCgot a bit carried away with my solitaire end-game sequence
17:18:57Kaboofa"THERE IS NO WAY I CAN FACTOR THAT!!! I CAN'T EVEN START AT 567! It's ASTRONOMICAL!!!"
17:19:10Kaboofai really need to stop listening to psycadelic trance music
17:19:25BCor take more drugs
17:19:32Kaboofahmm
17:19:33Kaboofai see your point
17:24:10Kaboofahttp://www.timeanddate.com/counters/millenniuma.html
17:24:11Kaboofahaha
17:24:13Kaboofai love useless things
17:25:11BCI especially like the "java.lang.nullPointerException" bit
17:25:22Kaboofajust click info twice and it will go away
17:25:33Kaboofayou know what amazes me?
17:25:38Kaboofayou don't have pointers in java.
17:25:41Kaboofathey don't let you use them.
17:25:54BCLOL - yes, that does make it mighty impressive code :)
17:26:00Kaboofait's all coushy object oriented shit
17:26:05Kaboofai had to code in it for a year
17:26:09BCgimme C anyday
17:26:13Kaboofamy fireman almost fell off.
17:26:20BCi had fun doeing the windows UI in native C
17:26:24BCLMAO
17:26:53Kaboofaby fireman, i mean peter, or wang, or piener, or meat&potatoes, or super fun wacky weasle AND IT'S TWO BALLS
17:26:55BC"fireman" <geez, must grow up one day, giggles senselessly>
17:26:56Kaboofaetc
17:26:59Kaboofahahah
17:27:03Kaboofa:D
17:27:08CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
17:27:08*Kaboofa should grow up too
17:27:15BCDONT DO IT!!!
17:27:20KaboofaOK!!!
17:27:25BC;)
17:27:48*Kaboofa grooves out to Nick Tornetta's Album "After Life"
17:27:49Kaboofammmm
17:28:13Kaboofahe has a clip of timothy leary in it.... now i am convinced that leary is insane
17:28:16Kaboofawell, after all the lsd..
17:28:22*BC listening to boogie woogie piano played on an electrocoustic guitar!
17:28:40BCleary is right royal weirdo
17:28:57BCsome sound psychological theories though
17:29:12Kaboofawhich kinda goes with the genra of this album
17:29:13Kaboofaso it's good
17:29:15Kaboofawhee
17:29:28*Kaboofa wishes he could listen to this at work
17:29:31KaboofaWAIT!! I CAN!
17:29:37Kaboofa<3 you rockbox/archos~
17:29:45Kaboofas/~/!/
17:31:59Kaboofaremember kids, the only thing better than a waffle, IS a waffle.
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22:18:11Smoothhey rockboxers
22:19:28Smoothhi mid
22:23:30*midk is back (gone 09:09:31)
22:23:33dstar5hi Smooth
22:24:47Smoothhi dstar
22:30:38SmoothWhy does the archos firmware only allow 1000 songs in playlists?
22:31:33midkhm, because it does i'd guess
22:31:49Smooththis also applies to the gminis
22:32:08midksaves buffer.
22:32:38Smoothim serriously itching to buy an ipod
22:32:42Smoothfor some reason
22:32:48Smoothjust for the kudos of owning one
22:35:52SmoothI think the Gmini 220 has backlight keys
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23:57:31Kaboofa:( All the e-mail i get is from rockbox and freebsd-hackers mailing list :(
23:57:43midkaw, poor kaboofa.

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